These episodes are so hard to listen to because once Bernie won California and the lib panic set in, Chris Mathews cried about it, hilariously, then : they said, ‘No’, and Obama made the phone calls which you KNOW gave the Trump/Republican coalition joy, making it so simple to crush the shards of Democracy to which we were clinging. And now: boot of fascism is coming at our face. 💔
"Mind combat" is the best term I've heard to describe all the "experts" on social media. Apparently, everyone has a PhD in something that everyone else is too dumb to understand.
It's insane how much smarter these Chapo people think they are. I've never heard pretentiousness like this before. They are just podcasters, I don't know where they get off thinking they are smarter than everyone.
@Wanker Wanker as a matter of fact, the "real" working class is much closer to a waitress and an uber driver in this day and age than a carpenter or a coal miner. It's simply a reality of the modern service economy
@Wanker Wanker first of all, it's simple numbers. those sorts of workers represent a far larger portion of the working base than those occupations you mentioned because, in case you hadn't noticed, the economy isn't undergoing industrialization anymore, it's a post-industrial one. Which, for the record, isn't something I celebrate but do recognize since I'm not delusional. Also, I have to laugh at the notion that the Ghanaian Uber driver is somehow participating in a "bourgeoisie occupation". It's a working class gig, and a shitty one at that. Sorry, if it doesn't align with your romantic notions of the working class but it would seem you are the one who is failing to speak for workers if this is your attitude/level of analysis
Odd that HRC.& Kissinger, Biden & ex-GovSnyder, who knowingly POISONED a city of children for a generation - That's GREAT! Joe Rogan being favorable to Bernie is outrageous. I HATE THE DNC.
Left-wingers playing social hall pass monitor is the complaint I hear every fucking time I’m in some pointless online argument. Like, we need housing and healthcare, not everybody to just be like, so polite to each other
"Like, we need housing and healthcare, not everybody to just be like, so polite to each other" Isn't pathetic enough that you speak like a 14 year old girl, do you really need to write that way?
Honestly screw this video for always giving me half a heart attack whenever it shows up in my suggested section, activating my reptilian brain making me believe Chapo went on Rogan
Rogan doesn't really bring that many leftists in his show in case they challenge him or something. His right and left ratio is out of whack and he likes psycho CEOs so I wouldn't hold my breath
Felix is the only one that would have the patience to deal with Rogan's credulous doofus personality. I feel like Matt would just start yelling the second they started ti talk about anything deeper than doing acid.
All they said about Joe Rogan was he’s a simpleton, and this was before his big Covid reveal. They’re just saying that sanders going on the show isn’t a colossal failure, which it wasn’t. He pushed back whenever he needed to, and explained his policies in a concise, specific and relatable way
i watch joe rogan sometimes for the guests and he is a pretty good interviewer imo. but the dudes politics are just super inconsistent and it seems he can easily be swayed in one or the other direction. i don't expect him to share my opinions, but how far left or right leaning he is seems dependant of the guest he's talking to. that's why i find it hard to take his stance on anything seriously. the only consistent thing about him is that doesn't want to pay taxes, hence he moved to texas.
It's less appealing for people with rigid political views, but one of the reasons he oscillates based on the guest is that he wants to get to know them and give them a fair shake. Going into depth with a several hour conversation wouldn't work if he he just disagreed on everything at the start. He talks to everyone and let's them unravel with their own words. The best example you could use in terms of him capitulating more than normally with guests is when he has veterans on. But even then, there are hundreds of hours of him talking about being anti-war and how much the military industrial complex bothers him.
@@joeleonard9965 >He talks to everyone and let's them unravel with their own words. This is not true. Are you sure you are not talking about louis theroux? Rogan does not let them unravel, he often encourages there various neurosis and lends an air of legitimacy in agreement rather than leaving enough space to show there rediculousness.
Man all these clips from when Bernie was still on the race so is make me depressed. feels like we had a genuine opportunity to save the fucking world and we missed it.
I agree. at least it was a slow let down with SC, then super tuesday, then other states, then the drop out. If he had been knocked out by the heart attack i think it would have contracted depression
The country just isn’t ready, but a lot of progress was made. After the George Floyd protests a lot of my Lib friends started to connect racism to capitalism etc. so there’s still movement. Just slower than we would like.
I'd like to make a point about generalising JRE viewers. Sure there are likely plenty of people who admire Joe and the dudebro attitude he conveys, but I think for most, including myself, it's more about the guests he has on. In the ~1500 episodes he's done, there are 100s of hours of good intellectual fodder from the various academics and professionals in their fields, where Joe is minimally contributing to the conversation, and they can just speak their piece and disseminate whatever it is they've learned in life. There are a bunch of absolute gems in there featuring insights of some of the very people that future us will be watching in smalls clips like we do now for the interesting folks of the last century. similar interview formats existed back in the day, with the various 'late night shows', although they weren't 2-3 hours in length. Joe really could have been anybody, but between Jamie producing quality audio and video, and Joe's ability to get various guests on, it's put him on a platform that he doesn't entirely deserve as it really was a right time, right place sort of deal. So I think focussing on Joe is the wrong idea, whether one admires him or criticises him, he's a moot point. The podcast itself and it's ability to bring on the right sort of guests is what matters the most. A three hour video interview is a good amount of time to detect a persons honesty, conviction, and capacity for talking out of their arses. Far better than the curated shit people are served on TV and Facebook.
Agreed. Fuck the bitter people saying “he’s a moron” while he’s been smart enough to put together a media empire and actually bring back the idea that being smart and curious is cool. Saying his listeners don’t vote is just as detached as most of the people they’re talking about. It’s especially true now in hindsight. It blows my mind that people can still try to argue that the demo he represents is racist or phobic or irrelevant. It’s that type of cowardice to engage with others you don’t agree with and self inflated, nose in the air idea of self value that sunk Hilary and the Dems before and they still don’t get it. People have real issues and problems in life and they know politicians aren’t going to do shit to solve them and neither are the people hand wringing on Twitter so they just live their life and try to let actions speak instead of constant drivel that goes no where.
I get what you are saying, but you could also choose to listen to an interviewer who has half a brain. Cause these people you are talking about dont exclusively go on the JRE. They go on plenty of other podcasts too. The same people joe has on from the left, other pods I listen to have on. They just contribute something instead of nonsense at best
Joe Rogan has opened more minds than main stream media has closed. Lots of people including myself aren't as educated as we would like to be. Being exposed to a 3 hour interview with Edward Snowden, Bernie Sanders or Cornel West instead of a 5 minute bitch fest on main stream media has been super helpful. Sometimes he has guests like Ben Shapiro that I don't agree with and Alex Jones who cannot be taken seriously but his show is the least non bias of any podcast on youtube. The Rogan podcast allows the viewer to think for themselves. It has also given exposure to comedians that might otherwise gone unnoticed to a large degree.
@@slart1bartfast587 you are really worked up there, man. I'm calm, I promise. You on the other hand really took to attacking my worldview at the drop of a hat. You're adorable haha
@@menciagoob662 I asked a question, which you didn't answer. You do take the bitchy liberal default position of "he is not helping, he is doing harm" hoping everyone will agree without elaborating on it, because your sensibilites are hurt. I just can't stand this anymore.
@@slart1bartfast587 he has people like Gavin on. He defends them. He takes a fence sitting, bullshit position when it comes to platforming fascists. Get the fuck out of here and back to the chan boards pal.
@@inthedeadhours Fair enough especially given your first comment. I like to think that I graduated from the podcasters like Rogan to Chapo as I grew more politically interested and less fed by Rogan and his guests. You do you
@@just4fun6671 *shrug* I don't listen to Rogan very often either....or really any podcast actually. If the title is interesting enough I might listen to a bit of one while I work on something else but thats about it.
@@synclloyd9270 it only works if joe biden gets to be president so he can get DARPA to combine adrenochrome with DMT for super soldiers, inadvertently creating a means of time travel because they used a child's adrenochrome instead of an adult's.
Rogan's smarter than average, but (like most journos and politicians and business people and citizens in general) too clueless about science to evaluate and unnaively respond to what various experts say. He's Mr Congeniality with some pepper on top, that's his success.
Ah yes... I remember the liberal backlash to Bernie going on rogan. Meanwhile crickets from liberals when transphobia happens where they can't pretend to care about it.
That's outdated it was a mystery for a long time but a few years ago they figured out that like ontop of the normal lift that bug wings generate bee wings also shoot out little vortexs above the bee
JohnyYumaTheRebel : my dad kept bees 🐝 as a hobby in his garden...yet all that i know about them is: they attack your head if you have lanolin in ur shampoo 🤣 they attacked my head...and Chomsky talking about the ‘waggle dance’ of some bees in Africa maybe.
@@westcoast9285 maybe volunteer at the polls? I'm sure there will be malfeasance afoot. It'd be good to have an unbought person in case it went to court. But, hey, things are so thoroughly corrupted it won't matter, but maybe you'll be in the right place at the right time.
rogan is so influential....got sanders into the white house....oh wait and rogan played stupid for a very short time...he really thinks he is a smartest man in the room
Oh, Jeez! I’m a female Boomer who graduated from UCLA with honors. And I find Joe Rogan’s guests utterly fascinating, and I love his long-form interviews. I don’t get how he’s supposedly anti-trans. He simply discusses the unfairness of those born male competing in female sports.
@Kaehlars Z. He doesn’t replicate my mindset perfectly. But I prefer to live in a John Stuart Mills world where there is a “lively exchange of ideas in the marketplace.” Remember how Fauci and the CDC propagandized endlessly AGAINST mask-wearing in the beginning. They could have simply said, “ Hey, there’s a shortage of masks. Let’s make our own for awhile, and let the front line nurses and doctors have the N95s.” So...
I'll be honest, I dont really like what the Joe Rogan experience really represents. With that said, the joe rogan base is who we need to appeal to if we want socialism to have any sort of chance. The right has their pipeline, its time for us to have ours
Joe Rogan is literally one of the prime entrances to that right-wing pipeline. He has people like Gavin McCinnis and Ben Shapiro on his show, he nods along to them spouting their fascist or racist bullshit in a respectful manner with no pushback and his young audience gets to hear how "reasonable" the far right sounds and then they start down the rabbit hole toward the alt-right.
@@03e-210a Joe Rogan platforms many far right people and introduces a lot of people to some of the white supremacist rhetoric used by people like Molyneaux (probably not spelling that right) Even if he platforms “both sides” the alt right pipe line is undeniable
I mean, I think Felix probably would, and they tried to get Felix on with him at one point. Also, I know Matt recently said he wouldn’t be opposed to it, but that he’d never be invited anyway. That aside, this was from back when Rogan “endorsed” Bernie, and liberals (and the dumb left) lost their minds, and frankly, I can’t find the lie in anything they said in response to that nonsense. I’m just saying, this is not recent, and I don’t think a desire to be on Rogan’s podcast explains why they said what they did here. ✌️
chum bucket Um, I don’t know? They have done that on the show, in general, but my guess is that if one or two of them went on the show (I don’t think they’d all be there, or all want to) that they wouldn’t address that unless it came up. I guess I don’t understand what you mean. If you mean that there wouldn’t be any real value in any of them appearing on the show, unless they definitely covered that topic, then I don’t know what to tell you. I think there can be plenty of value in an appearance without covering that topic, just because it’d be sort of absurd to imply that anything valuable that they could discuss would necessarily be contingent on them discussing trans rights, and Joe’s past idiocy and ignorance on that topic (not that you’re implying that, but I could see how someone might assume that based on your comment). It’s like, I don’t think Bernie, Cornell, or any other lefty appearing on the show was pointless or valueless just because they didn’t confront him about trans issues. Would I want them to at least briefly discuss that if one or more of them appeared on the show? Sure, I think Felix especially could talk to him in a way that would get through to Joe, and at least get him to move to a less problematic position on trans people’s existence, and/or what it is/means to be trans, and why/how he could be more respectful. I think that’d be a very good thing, and I think Felix could probably do a pretty good job at getting through to Joe on that, but I just don’t think any point or value of his (or anyone’s) appearance on the show is contingent on that issue. If you disagree, I’m open to being told why I’m incorrect. ✌️
bloomerette To be fair, I think Joe did misgender that trans woman fighter, at least he did Fox, when he was talking about how horrified he was about her participating in women’s MMA, bc she had gone through a male puberty, thus had more bone density, and just generally the advantage of all the test from male puberty. And I’m kinda cleaning up the language, if I’m remembering the episode(s) of JRE when he said those things.. I’m just saying, I do believe he did explicitly say, *“that’s a man”,* and that’s misgendering her, by definition. As far as the debates over trans people in sports are concerned, that’s a separate conversation, and unfortunately back when Joe was caught up in all that a few years back, he was conflating multiple things, and did use transphobic language, including misgendering Fox, and it’s just kind of a shame bc there’s a legitimate discussion to be had, and he could have had a discussion based on science, with real professionals and doctors (let alone Fox, who could have maybe had a civil dialogue with him). *I don’t think Joe is a raging transphobic bigot, I think he just had emotions and ignorance on the subject take over, and it lead him to make regrettable (and definitionally transphobic) comments,* and I also have no doubt that in the 6+ years since all this happened, he’s learned a lot, and I’m sure he regrets those comments. In fact, I am pretty sure he apologized, but don’t quote me on that, bc I may be misremembering. If he hasn’t that’s dumb, he should, but either way I don’t think Joe is this raging transphobic bigot ppl make him out to be, based on many other sympathetic comments he’s made about transgender people. Bottom line, I’m just trying to disaggregate a few things here.. My above comments from a few days ago still stand, but that’s not to say I think Joe didn’t misgender Fallon Fox, and get several things wrong about trans people, and trans people in sports. I just don’t think he’s this crazy bigot some people have made him out to be, as I think anyone who’s listened to/watched a substantial amount of JRE (as I have) can tell. That’s why I think Felix could move Joe in a better direction on the topic; if I thought Joe was some super transphobic asshole, I wouldn’t think such a thing were possible. For Joe, I honestly think 90% of his conversations come down to who’s sitting in front of him, and the reality is if all those years ago he’d have had the right people (ppl knowledgeable on this topic) in front of him, I think it’d have gone way different, *even if his final conclusion was still that trans women who experienced male puberty still should not engage in combat sports with cis women.* He could have come to this same conclusion, without the unnecessarily bigoted language, but unfortunately that didn’t happen, and here we are still having these conversations 6+ years after the fact... ✌️
It's too bad that Rogan talks to so many unsavory right-wingers and grifters, because I might enjoy JRE if it weren't for that. In theory, I vibe with the conversational, laid-back format of the show where he just shoots the shit with a wide variety of interesting people who have interesting things to say. And while there _are_ some episodes here and there where he has cool guests like Hamilton Morris, all too often he lets these patently evil creeps like Alex Jones and Jordan Peterson spew all sorts of hateful nonsense without seriously challenging them. I could sort of understand speaking to either of those guys _once_ out of morbid curiosity and wanting to understand what it is they believe (which wouldn't be _that_ bad if you knew when to put your foot down), but then he has them back on over and over in a way that makes it seem like he's tacitly endorsing their bullshit.
He doesn't so much endorse them as much as he finds Jones entertaining and is genuinely taken in by a lot of Peterson's guff. He's not got a great bullshit detector, but when it is working he can surprise you. He completely made a fool out of Dave Rubin, Candace Owens and Steven Crowder, all of whom expected the usual soft kid-gloves treatment but then as soon as they started spouting climate change denial or calling for the abolishment of building safety regulations he just very calmly explained why they were talking out of their arses. He's a bit dumb and easily misled by bullshit like conspiracy theories and media scare stories but he's fundamentally honest.
@@arthurrimbaud7287 I'd hardly call Alex Jones and the Infowars crowd 'real people.' But yes, people are indeed much more right wing than most internet liberals believe.
I agree with most of this stuff except for the inference that Joe Rogan is any sort of benevolent being. He's perfect balance of a grown man with a developmental disorder, and a reactionary centrist dude. If he wasn't high constantly, I'm pretty sure he'd just go full alt-right.
@Wanker Wanker Been there, done that, still don't like the podcast that's half badly researched takes from reactionaries. Unless you're suggesting I need to get hit in the head with some falling rebar in order to enjoy JRE. In which case, you might be onto something there.
@@Forthelemon Amber didn't just infer it, she straight up said it. "Joe Rogan was trying to explain the concept of bees (...) a benevolent man with a genuine curiosity about the world trying so hard - I think he was trying to explain the decline in the bee population but he couldn't get there because he had to first explain the concept of a bee" But that's Amber for you. She probably meant to say "benign".
Man I like half the stuff this podcast does but then they have comments that will talk down things like taking in new ideas to adapt your worldview. You cant both consider people ignorant and criticize people who change when presented with information. Ideological commitment isn't a positive thing unless you assume you picked the right position from the start by chance.
@@Chris-xq9jt there is a difference between genuine people growing and learning, and corporate owned sociopaths adapting their rhetoric to whatever they think will sell votes and continuing to shill the people and the world. Do you genuinely believe Hilary Clinton personally "grew" to get on board with gay marriage just as the slight majority of Americans became in favour of it?
@@pa1nted Youre using specific examples to defend a blanket statement though. A big part of public sentiment swaying in your example was people changing their minds without their jobs on the line.
Look at all the people Joe pulled in. Really made Bernie's campaign. I give bernie credit for trying, but it's like speaking to a flat earther. In the same way 2020 Democrats courting republicans was a waste of time. I'll say it, Bernie sanders (...the senator) has way more pull than Joe "alpha brain" Rogan
I'd argue there are probably quite a few Joe listeners/former Joe listeners in this audience. Joe got a few of use to see the liberal side of things before he seemed to settle in the middle. But I could be wrong.
I'm a leftist and I'll listen to him from time to time. Mostly because I'm also an MMA fan though, when he gets political it's always deeply embarrassing
I used to be a truck driver, meaning I had a lot of hours in the day that needed to be filled by podcasts. I'm not the type of person who can just listen to music to be entertained, and virtually all talk radio is either hardcore right wing, or sports, in which I have zero interest. I liked Rogan because he was frequently entertaining, and he's produced such a vast quantity of content. And he's had some great moments, like when he absolutely humiliated Dave Rubin. He was always a little too credulous with regard to woo/bro science and conspiracy theories, but he was never really that objectionable until he started in on covid denialist shit. Before 2020, I'd say he was probably doing more good than harm.
I get what they mean, during a general election getting non voters to vote for your side in an election, this would have helped a lot during a theoretical sanders trump election, however a primary is a whole different beast, you need to appeal to the core of the party to win. Non voters who sometimes vote in the general and will vote sanders if he is on the ticket will not vote in a primary, or are very unlikely to vote in a primary. Biden won the nomination by appealing to a huge core of the party, black voters. Sanders had broad appeal but the appeal was to people who would not be voting in the primaries, only the general. I think that the next left candidate that comes up to run should learn from sanders mistakes and try to appeal to the base of the party. Sanders should have won, the policies were popular with democrats, only problem was he was thinking of it like it was a general election, not an "get the base to like you" type contest
I don't get it, Rogan is successful 4x+ over. He was state champion in his sport at 19, got a successful TV show, got a successful career in his favorite sport, got arena sales level in his major career, and fell backwards into being the number one podcast show aka radio show ever. Near Schwarzeneggerian levels of success.
There's literally zero evidence that Joe Rogan ever was a state champion or champion of anything. He's never been listed as a state champion of anything in any state of America. He's also 5'6" and admittedly does steroids
Wait what? Reaching non voters? This is hilarious to listen to because they’re just as detached as the people they’re ragging on. He might not vote (or smartly says he doesn’t...) but his listeners do for sure.
We can be absolutely assured that "the civil rights issue of our time" will be handled as effectively and permanently by Biden as have been the several prior civil rights issues of the past ... that are are still with us and worse than ever.
Also, Joe Rogan literally just said "I dont think people who went through a male puberty should compete against those who didnt" (which is absolutely correct if youre not an insane person) and the actual thing he said that would be considered transphobic was he said "i dont care if you eanna play dress up and house" which is just a dumbass way ti describe it but its not as though these old Gen X libs dont see transpeople in the exact same way, Joe Rogan saying it is more that hes dumb, not that hes a malicious transphobe.
Yeah I don’t mind Joe so much, but he can be such a dickhead about gender essentialism, especially what women should be like, and the venom and disgust he has for unattractive women is depressing.
@@L_Martin except all the dumbshits that prioritize this inanity over American foreign policy, climate change, and wealth equity *are* fucking gender essentialists. If a trans person's declaration is the truth about the reality of their gender and competing classifications of their gender are by definition false, then that's an essentialist fucking view. You know the necessary and sufficient conditions to be a member of the set: the whim of the trans person. We're all fucked.
It's a urban myth that's worked it's way through the culture and gets in the heads of people who are vaguely dumb with regard to science. So Joe probably heard that bees wings can't support their mass, thought about the size of bumblebees compared to their wings for 0.27 seconds and thought "damn dude that's fucking crazy" and then forgot about it until context reactivated that factoid.
@@finished6267 According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Joe Rogan is right wing, he's just not doctrinaire or partisan enough to be right wing on every single issue. I don't care about his "conspiracies" but Rogan says a LOT of transphobic stuff (and platforms a number of transphobes that wouldn't get nearly as much attention without him) and has said a lot of racist stuff as well.
He loves right wing ideas like medicaire for all, ending the wars, trans rights, and endorses far right politicians like Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. What a dick.
I’ve fucked with Joe since Menstealia. He’s not perfect but he’s introduced a lot of people to a lot of people who wouldn’t have possibly been familiar with otherwise. He’s our Dick Cavett. Some people have road rage anyways and interpret an intersection as a personal insult.
just went and checked the podcast with sanders. what was the main point these guys made? that millions of people, mostly right-wing and/or non-voters would see sanders speak. the podcast has 14 million views on youtube alone. here's a couple of the highest liked comments: "It’s interesting how people and news and so forth make Bernie sound crazy, but he actually seems to speak sense. I’m a staunch republican. This has been mind opening." "This feels like the watershed moment for alternative media. Random mma guy joe rogan has a far better interview with a presidential candidate than any mainstream media and reaches vast amounts of people." (and, to be clear, I hate rogan!)
Gotta agree with the guy around 10:00 - I never went to university and I think that's the main reason why I've always been vehemently racist, homophobic, and transphobic
@@ongobongo8333 "You let one Joe Rogan listener who maybe didn't go to college, hasn't learned the right words to use, hasn't gone through the literal like social conditioning to make you value those things like being not racist and being, y'know, trans-positive, as personality traits. You literally do learn that shit in college."
@@connorglaze538 You're completely misunderstanding what he said. That entire chunk of the conversation they were mocking how exclutionary the liberal elites are, and that something like not going to college makes you an outsider. That quote was him paraphrasing what a liberal elite might say. His point was that you do NOT become racist, homophobic and transphobic just because you didn't go to college. But people who went to college have a sense that's the case. "You literally do learn that shit in college" meant that you "learn" in college that non-college people become racist because they didn't get a proper education.
@@jonathanblanton4642 I got the exclusionary liberal elite point, but his characterisation of people who haven't gone to college was definitely genuine or at least phrased that way. The woman told that story about someone worrying about an alt right guy joining their union right after and called it the "exact same conversation", likening people on the alt right to the guy's toxic caricature of a man who didn't go to college and therefore hasn't learned how not to be a bigot. It's kinda ironic he's talking about how harmful liberal gatekeeping is here when the kind of language he used to describe Joe Rogan fans plays beautifully into the right wing narrative that everyone on the left sees anyone outside their circle as backwards intolerant hicks.
@@connorglaze538 That is NOT what they are saying. He was saying that's how college people view non-college people, and that it is NOT correct. Half of their podcast is spent trashing colleges and the cirriculum that they teach. And were you not listenging at all to her union comments? She was laughing at and criticizing union members who were worried about alt-right people joining the union, and that it was the same conversation college elites have about non-college elites. And she then specifically said that if an alt-right guy joins your union, then you've won! That's a good thing, as opposed to what the union gatekeepers think.
I wouldn't go on Rogan, but not because of what he believes (if he believes anything at all). It's because his show is a waystation for every anti-SJW grifter who ever lived, and I'd rather not be in that company.
@Duncan Haha okay. Because you totally win elections by refusing to criticize your opponent. He didn't just squander his appeal to Joe Rogans audience - - he squandered what's remaining of his supporters' patience. And if you think Bernie Sanders can just get the kind of numbers Rogan gets - - it's you who are delusional.
@@Alexander-Kurtz afraid it's the other way around. If you had an iq above room temperature you would realize that liberalism and communism are antithetical to each other.
@@copsarebastards Of course they are, that's not the point, but you don't have enough political culture to understand what I meant by "Neo Marxists are ultra liberalism useful idiots....".
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These episodes are so hard to listen to because once Bernie won California and the lib panic set in, Chris Mathews cried about it, hilariously, then : they said, ‘No’, and Obama made the phone calls which you KNOW gave the Trump/Republican coalition joy, making it so simple to crush the shards of Democracy to which we were clinging. And now: boot of fascism is coming at our face.
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'No...'
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Firth captures the essence of 'no' in this and I can never stop thinking about it.
Thanks, Obama. 😐
Those were the days...
✌😥✊ I know
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ah what to be back in the bad times, before the worse times
If only you knew how much worse they'd get...
Man, this Bernie Sanders fella sounds pretty electable.
He was
Let me introduce you to the Boomers.
'what do i do if an alt right guy wants to be in the union' hahaha
Ah...the last sane moment of 2020. The feels and the 'members.
I 'member.
@@justinthor5438 Do you member happiness, peace, love and hope? Pepperidge Farms members.
"Mind combat" is the best term I've heard to describe all the "experts" on social media. Apparently, everyone has a PhD in something that everyone else is too dumb to understand.
A lot of the comments here seem to pit Rogan vs Chapo, as far as I can tell from the video it's generally defending Rogan from liberal immediate hate.
It's insane how much smarter these Chapo people think they are. I've never heard pretentiousness like this before. They are just podcasters, I don't know where they get off thinking they are smarter than everyone.
@@ronstanley7850 This is in no way a reply to my comment, Ron
@Wanker Wanker as a matter of fact, the "real" working class is much closer to a waitress and an uber driver in this day and age than a carpenter or a coal miner. It's simply a reality of the modern service economy
@Wanker Wanker first of all, it's simple numbers. those sorts of workers represent a far larger portion of the working base than those occupations you mentioned because, in case you hadn't noticed, the economy isn't undergoing industrialization anymore, it's a post-industrial one. Which, for the record, isn't something I celebrate but do recognize since I'm not delusional.
Also, I have to laugh at the notion that the Ghanaian Uber driver is somehow participating in a "bourgeoisie occupation". It's a working class gig, and a shitty one at that. Sorry, if it doesn't align with your romantic notions of the working class but it would seem you are the one who is failing to speak for workers if this is your attitude/level of analysis
@@oolacilesbotnet6564 odds are they're doing both.
Oh god, this makes me so fucking sad. I remember this day, this moment, this feeling. Goddammit, I'll never get over it.
Boy, this Bernie guy sure has a big chance.
I know! Wonder what Party he's running in? This Bernie guy sounds like an up 'n'comer.
Odd that HRC.& Kissinger, Biden & ex-GovSnyder, who knowingly POISONED a city of children for a generation - That's GREAT! Joe Rogan being favorable to Bernie is outrageous. I HATE THE DNC.
🙃
Right? He sounds great. Hope he wins!
Feels real bad.
This is Gold Standard Chapo
healthcare pls...
The same people who gave Bernie shit for Rogan endorsing him are silent about Richard Spencer endorsing Biden.
@SuperKane5 you are crazy. Stay away from intellectual conversations.
Because they know he's a troll.
@@finished6267 If a nazi endorses you regaurdeless of context it should be denounced immediately.
California Joe Rogan > Texas Joe Rogan
He was always cringe and r tarded lmao
Yeah, he's always sucked. He just wasn't insufferable at the start.
No one in these comments has even tried DMT bro.
I have
@@ryanexsus I just checked with the DMT gnomes and they say they don’t know you, Ryan.
Joe Rogan Is Your Average Uninformed Dude Bro!
No. You are.
But dmt.
Left-wingers playing social hall pass monitor is the complaint I hear every fucking time I’m in some pointless online argument.
Like, we need housing and healthcare, not everybody to just be like, so polite to each other
We need the guidance of our liberal hipster leaders. Without them, we would be out there, helpless, just thinking for ourselves.
"Like, we need housing and healthcare, not everybody to just be like, so polite to each other"
Isn't pathetic enough that you speak like a 14 year old girl, do you really need to write that way?
Why can't we do both?
@@mattoleary7310 Do you need to be a pedantic loser or is it a stylistic choice for you to be unlikeable?
Now I got the big sad
Honestly screw this video for always giving me half a heart attack whenever it shows up in my suggested section, activating my reptilian brain making me believe Chapo went on Rogan
Rogan doesn't really bring that many leftists in his show in case they challenge him or something. His right and left ratio is out of whack and he likes psycho CEOs so I wouldn't hold my breath
It sounds like they would have a good time on JRE.
Rogan is the Over-Bro
It would be extremely lit to have Felix beiderman on Rogan
I just want to see them talk about mma for 4 hours and not even mention politics
And Nick Mullen
Felix is the Chapo’s tank class, so it would work
Felix is the only one that would have the patience to deal with Rogan's credulous doofus personality. I feel like Matt would just start yelling the second they started ti talk about anything deeper than doing acid.
@@ChewyThomson You must be on acid if u think that nerd would start yelling at Rogan.
We love our Matty folks!
All they said about Joe Rogan was he’s a simpleton, and this was before his big Covid reveal. They’re just saying that sanders going on the show isn’t a colossal failure, which it wasn’t. He pushed back whenever he needed to, and explained his policies in a concise, specific and relatable way
i watch joe rogan sometimes for the guests and he is a pretty good interviewer imo. but the dudes politics are just super inconsistent and it seems he can easily be swayed in one or the other direction. i don't expect him to share my opinions, but how far left or right leaning he is seems dependant of the guest he's talking to. that's why i find it hard to take his stance on anything seriously. the only consistent thing about him is that doesn't want to pay taxes, hence he moved to texas.
It's less appealing for people with rigid political views, but one of the reasons he oscillates based on the guest is that he wants to get to know them and give them a fair shake. Going into depth with a several hour conversation wouldn't work if he he just disagreed on everything at the start. He talks to everyone and let's them unravel with their own words. The best example you could use in terms of him capitulating more than normally with guests is when he has veterans on. But even then, there are hundreds of hours of him talking about being anti-war and how much the military industrial complex bothers him.
@@joeleonard9965 >He talks to everyone and let's them unravel with their own words.
This is not true. Are you sure you are not talking about louis theroux?
Rogan does not let them unravel, he often encourages there various neurosis and lends an air of legitimacy in agreement rather than leaving enough space to show there rediculousness.
for a guy who touts his alpha male energy to a nauseating degree, Rogan has the political backbone of moldy straw
Matt (subconsciously?) borrowed a line from Bill Hicks: "A company man to the bitter fucking end."
Man all these clips from when Bernie was still on the race so is make me depressed. feels like we had a genuine opportunity to save the fucking world and we missed it.
for real... we had it right at our FINGERTIPS for a minute there...if shit really goes south, I wonder if people in the future will see it that way
I agree. at least it was a slow let down with SC, then super tuesday, then other states, then the drop out. If he had been knocked out by the heart attack i think it would have contracted depression
Squeejee09 : they took it away from us. thanks, Obama!!
The country just isn’t ready, but a lot of progress was made. After the George Floyd protests a lot of my Lib friends started to connect racism to capitalism etc. so there’s still movement. Just slower than we would like.
Man, January...simpler times...
The intersectionality in the comments is fascinating 😂
I hate that word
I'd like to make a point about generalising JRE viewers. Sure there are likely plenty of people who admire Joe and the dudebro attitude he conveys, but I think for most, including myself, it's more about the guests he has on. In the ~1500 episodes he's done, there are 100s of hours of good intellectual fodder from the various academics and professionals in their fields, where Joe is minimally contributing to the conversation, and they can just speak their piece and disseminate whatever it is they've learned in life.
There are a bunch of absolute gems in there featuring insights of some of the very people that future us will be watching in smalls clips like we do now for the interesting folks of the last century. similar interview formats existed back in the day, with the various 'late night shows', although they weren't 2-3 hours in length.
Joe really could have been anybody, but between Jamie producing quality audio and video, and Joe's ability to get various guests on, it's put him on a platform that he doesn't entirely deserve as it really was a right time, right place sort of deal. So I think focussing on Joe is the wrong idea, whether one admires him or criticises him, he's a moot point. The podcast itself and it's ability to bring on the right sort of guests is what matters the most.
A three hour video interview is a good amount of time to detect a persons honesty, conviction, and capacity for talking out of their arses. Far better than the curated shit people are served on TV and Facebook.
All of that intellectual fodder is interspersed with garbage commentary from a moron who can't comprehend what the guests are saying
Agreed. Fuck the bitter people saying “he’s a moron” while he’s been smart enough to put together a media empire and actually bring back the idea that being smart and curious is cool.
Saying his listeners don’t vote is just as detached as most of the people they’re talking about. It’s especially true now in hindsight.
It blows my mind that people can still try to argue that the demo he represents is racist or phobic or irrelevant. It’s that type of cowardice to engage with others you don’t agree with and self inflated, nose in the air idea of self value that sunk Hilary and the Dems before and they still don’t get it. People have real issues and problems in life and they know politicians aren’t going to do shit to solve them and neither are the people hand wringing on Twitter so they just live their life and try to let actions speak instead of constant drivel that goes no where.
Yes, but have you ever tried DMT?
I get what you are saying, but you could also choose to listen to an interviewer who has half a brain. Cause these people you are talking about dont exclusively go on the JRE. They go on plenty of other podcasts too. The same people joe has on from the left, other pods I listen to have on. They just contribute something instead of nonsense at best
@@alexanderwestphal9777 He might try and fail, but it's more than anyone can say about you eh?
i knew i was gonna get trolled by this title
My mom loves Joe Rogan. Never watched his show myself, to me he'll always be just 'The Fear Factor' guy
me too man
Thanks for your contribution it was really important
Joe Rogan has opened more minds than main stream media has closed. Lots of people including myself aren't as educated as we would like to be. Being exposed to a 3 hour interview with Edward Snowden, Bernie Sanders or Cornel West instead of a 5 minute bitch fest on main stream media has been super helpful. Sometimes he has guests like Ben Shapiro that I don't agree with and Alex Jones who cannot be taken seriously but his show is the least non bias of any podcast on youtube. The Rogan podcast allows the viewer to think for themselves. It has also given exposure to comedians that might otherwise gone unnoticed to a large degree.
Just... no. No to all of this. I'm not going to try and talk you off your idol worship but he is not helping, he is doing harm.
@@menciagoob662 "he is doing harm" - riiiight. to what does he do harm exactly? Your fragile world view?
@@slart1bartfast587 you are really worked up there, man. I'm calm, I promise. You on the other hand really took to attacking my worldview at the drop of a hat. You're adorable haha
@@menciagoob662 I asked a question, which you didn't answer.
You do take the bitchy liberal default position of "he is not helping, he is doing harm" hoping everyone will agree without elaborating on it, because your sensibilites are hurt. I just can't stand this anymore.
@@slart1bartfast587 he has people like Gavin on. He defends them. He takes a fence sitting, bullshit position when it comes to platforming fascists. Get the fuck out of here and back to the chan boards pal.
I clicked on this because I thought El Chapo went on the Joe Rogan podcast.
funny comment. hopefully, you stuck around and listened to the full 16 minutes
@@just4fun6671 meh. Listened for about ten.
@@inthedeadhours Fair enough especially given your first comment. I like to think that I graduated from the podcasters like Rogan to Chapo as I grew more politically interested and less fed by Rogan and his guests.
You do you
@@just4fun6671 *shrug* I don't listen to Rogan very often either....or really any podcast actually. If the title is interesting enough I might listen to a bit of one while I work on something else but thats about it.
@@inthedeadhours right on, dude. thanks for stopping by
joe biden is joe rogan from the future using DMT based time travel
I knew it in the future
@@synclloyd9270 it only works if joe biden gets to be president so he can get DARPA to combine adrenochrome with DMT for super soldiers, inadvertently creating a means of time travel because they used a child's adrenochrome instead of an adult's.
if joe rogan vanishes from everyones memory thats when you know trump will win
Do Butt Socks actually work?
I just looked em up. They are awesome epic retro mod socks, and I ordered a pair of pink and black. Thank you Butt Socks
Take me back! To the time when I had hope and not consumed by cynicism
Does anyone know the bee episode Amber is talking about?
I agree with your opinion on The Atlantic magazine. It even manages to make possible civil war sound boring.
Rogan's smarter than average, but (like most journos and politicians and business people and citizens in general) too clueless about science to evaluate and unnaively respond to what various experts say. He's Mr Congeniality with some pepper on top, that's his success.
*☼ i remember hope* rebellions are built on hope.
Ah yes... I remember the liberal backlash to Bernie going on rogan. Meanwhile crickets from liberals when transphobia happens where they can't pretend to care about it.
Such a breath of fresh air. Joe has a big heart, let him in, pull him left, and try to get lefties on his show.
This is entertaining
i keep thinking about the fact that they don’t know how bees fly. i didn’t know that they didn’t know how bees fly!
I want that clip
That's outdated it was a mystery for a long time but a few years ago they figured out that like ontop of the normal lift that bug wings generate bee wings also shoot out little vortexs above the bee
JohnyYumaTheRebel : my dad kept bees 🐝 as a hobby in his garden...yet all that i know about them is: they attack your head if you have lanolin in ur shampoo 🤣 they attacked my head...and Chomsky talking about the ‘waggle dance’ of some bees in Africa maybe.
Please go donate/support/vote for Shahid Buttar against Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco
Been doing it for months. Can't phonebank tho.
@@jamesoquinn9168 i wish i could vote for him i live in the district above SF.
@@westcoast9285 maybe volunteer at the polls? I'm sure there will be malfeasance afoot. It'd be good to have an unbought person in case it went to court. But, hey, things are so thoroughly corrupted it won't matter, but maybe you'll be in the right place at the right time.
This is a bummer to hear now. Such hope
these people (I love) had themselves so convinced Bernie would win I started to believe it too
Safe space needer.
@@monsignorerasmus.6441 ok man
I’m a 20 year old guy, lotta my friends like him and are also hogs. Plenty of boot lockers who watch him as well js
$1,400 checks instead of $2,000 checks was the sin. All else has been possible because they got away with that.
Joe Biden is the janitor that shuts off the lights in the factory after the company laid off the workers when they moved overseas.
Sold his influence to spotify.
Amber is so sharp
Damn, you triggered a ton of joe fanboys and I love it.
Idk. For the "dumb guy" he certainly wants to be taken seriously enough.
Most dumb guys do. They are dumb enough to think their first reaction to any new info is always the right one.
"JOE DOESNT VOTE"....
Even Garry Johnson can't get a shout out on the Qanon podcast
Democratic centralism
Depressing.
when Felix popped in at 1600 , it made me so happy.
david forum wrote an excellent piece about how trump would turn america into a plutocratic business. wonderful insights into his biggest wet dreams
rogan is so influential....got sanders into the white house....oh wait
and rogan played stupid for a very short time...he really thinks he is a smartest man in the room
But the stupid part is the only thing that’s genuine…
Oh, Jeez! I’m a female Boomer who graduated from UCLA with honors. And I find Joe Rogan’s guests utterly fascinating, and I love his long-form interviews. I don’t get how he’s supposedly anti-trans. He simply discusses the unfairness of those born male competing in female sports.
@Kaehlars Z. He doesn’t replicate my mindset perfectly. But I prefer to live in a John Stuart Mills world where there is a “lively exchange of ideas in the marketplace.” Remember how Fauci and the CDC propagandized endlessly AGAINST mask-wearing in the beginning. They could have simply said, “ Hey, there’s a shortage of masks. Let’s make our own for awhile, and let the front line nurses and doctors have the N95s.” So...
You are a transphobe my friend.
@@strega1380 Wow. Identity politics run amok!! Okay. Trans women should freely compete in women’s sports. Say goodbye to title 9
@@vercingetorixa7613 "Trans women should freely compete in women’s sports."
Exactly.
@@strega1380 No. They should have a separate category like the Special Olympics.
I'll be honest, I dont really like what the Joe Rogan experience really represents. With that said, the joe rogan base is who we need to appeal to if we want socialism to have any sort of chance. The right has their pipeline, its time for us to have ours
Joe Rogan is literally one of the prime entrances to that right-wing pipeline. He has people like Gavin McCinnis and Ben Shapiro on his show, he nods along to them spouting their fascist or racist bullshit in a respectful manner with no pushback and his young audience gets to hear how "reasonable" the far right sounds and then they start down the rabbit hole toward the alt-right.
Holy fucking shit. All of you are tankies? Good gracious
@@03e-210a Joe Rogan platforms many far right people and introduces a lot of people to some of the white supremacist rhetoric used by people like Molyneaux (probably not spelling that right)
Even if he platforms “both sides” the alt right pipe line is undeniable
They took this from us
Who took what from whom?
@@Grogeous_Maximus dnc took bernie from us :^(
Ok we know.. you guys wanna get on joes show lol
I mean, I think Felix probably would, and they tried to get Felix on with him at one point. Also, I know Matt recently said he wouldn’t be opposed to it, but that he’d never be invited anyway.
That aside, this was from back when Rogan “endorsed” Bernie, and liberals (and the dumb left) lost their minds, and frankly, I can’t find the lie in anything they said in response to that nonsense. I’m just saying, this is not recent, and I don’t think a desire to be on Rogan’s podcast explains why they said what they did here. ✌️
If they get on his show and don't pressure him about why he thinks misgendering trans people is cool then what's the point.
chum bucket Um, I don’t know? They have done that on the show, in general, but my guess is that if one or two of them went on the show (I don’t think they’d all be there, or all want to) that they wouldn’t address that unless it came up.
I guess I don’t understand what you mean. If you mean that there wouldn’t be any real value in any of them appearing on the show, unless they definitely covered that topic, then I don’t know what to tell you. I think there can be plenty of value in an appearance without covering that topic, just because it’d be sort of absurd to imply that anything valuable that they could discuss would necessarily be contingent on them discussing trans rights, and Joe’s past idiocy and ignorance on that topic (not that you’re implying that, but I could see how someone might assume that based on your comment). It’s like, I don’t think Bernie, Cornell, or any other lefty appearing on the show was pointless or valueless just because they didn’t confront him about trans issues.
Would I want them to at least briefly discuss that if one or more of them appeared on the show? Sure, I think Felix especially could talk to him in a way that would get through to Joe, and at least get him to move to a less problematic position on trans people’s existence, and/or what it is/means to be trans, and why/how he could be more respectful. I think that’d be a very good thing, and I think Felix could probably do a pretty good job at getting through to Joe on that, but I just don’t think any point or value of his (or anyone’s) appearance on the show is contingent on that issue. If you disagree, I’m open to being told why I’m incorrect. ✌️
@@chumbucket6989 when did joe misgender a trans person? Or did you just imagine he did because you never lookedninto what he actually saud
bloomerette To be fair, I think Joe did misgender that trans woman fighter, at least he did Fox, when he was talking about how horrified he was about her participating in women’s MMA, bc she had gone through a male puberty, thus had more bone density, and just generally the advantage of all the test from male puberty. And I’m kinda cleaning up the language, if I’m remembering the episode(s) of JRE when he said those things.. I’m just saying, I do believe he did explicitly say, *“that’s a man”,* and that’s misgendering her, by definition.
As far as the debates over trans people in sports are concerned, that’s a separate conversation, and unfortunately back when Joe was caught up in all that a few years back, he was conflating multiple things, and did use transphobic language, including misgendering Fox, and it’s just kind of a shame bc there’s a legitimate discussion to be had, and he could have had a discussion based on science, with real professionals and doctors (let alone Fox, who could have maybe had a civil dialogue with him). *I don’t think Joe is a raging transphobic bigot, I think he just had emotions and ignorance on the subject take over, and it lead him to make regrettable (and definitionally transphobic) comments,* and I also have no doubt that in the 6+ years since all this happened, he’s learned a lot, and I’m sure he regrets those comments. In fact, I am pretty sure he apologized, but don’t quote me on that, bc I may be misremembering. If he hasn’t that’s dumb, he should, but either way I don’t think Joe is this raging transphobic bigot ppl make him out to be, based on many other sympathetic comments he’s made about transgender people.
Bottom line, I’m just trying to disaggregate a few things here.. My above comments from a few days ago still stand, but that’s not to say I think Joe didn’t misgender Fallon Fox, and get several things wrong about trans people, and trans people in sports. I just don’t think he’s this crazy bigot some people have made him out to be, as I think anyone who’s listened to/watched a substantial amount of JRE (as I have) can tell. That’s why I think Felix could move Joe in a better direction on the topic; if I thought Joe was some super transphobic asshole, I wouldn’t think such a thing were possible.
For Joe, I honestly think 90% of his conversations come down to who’s sitting in front of him, and the reality is if all those years ago he’d have had the right people (ppl knowledgeable on this topic) in front of him, I think it’d have gone way different, *even if his final conclusion was still that trans women who experienced male puberty still should not engage in combat sports with cis women.* He could have come to this same conclusion, without the unnecessarily bigoted language, but unfortunately that didn’t happen, and here we are still having these conversations 6+ years after the fact... ✌️
It's too bad that Rogan talks to so many unsavory right-wingers and grifters, because I might enjoy JRE if it weren't for that. In theory, I vibe with the conversational, laid-back format of the show where he just shoots the shit with a wide variety of interesting people who have interesting things to say. And while there _are_ some episodes here and there where he has cool guests like Hamilton Morris, all too often he lets these patently evil creeps like Alex Jones and Jordan Peterson spew all sorts of hateful nonsense without seriously challenging them. I could sort of understand speaking to either of those guys _once_ out of morbid curiosity and wanting to understand what it is they believe (which wouldn't be _that_ bad if you knew when to put your foot down), but then he has them back on over and over in a way that makes it seem like he's tacitly endorsing their bullshit.
Damn, that’s crazy
He doesn't so much endorse them as much as he finds Jones entertaining and is genuinely taken in by a lot of Peterson's guff. He's not got a great bullshit detector, but when it is working he can surprise you. He completely made a fool out of Dave Rubin, Candace Owens and Steven Crowder, all of whom expected the usual soft kid-gloves treatment but then as soon as they started spouting climate change denial or calling for the abolishment of building safety regulations he just very calmly explained why they were talking out of their arses. He's a bit dumb and easily misled by bullshit like conspiracy theories and media scare stories but he's fundamentally honest.
You should really go outside every once in a while and talk to real people.
@@arthurrimbaud7287 I'd hardly call Alex Jones and the Infowars crowd 'real people.' But yes, people are indeed much more right wing than most internet liberals believe.
@@joepeake8972 they must be those Russian bots I’ve been hearing so much about
I kind of like the comments on the subject. There's just too much condensing attitude. Establish your thoughts and perspectives clearly.
This is all anyone on the internet is able to do, sadly. 'condensing' is a good way of putting it though, certanly. :)
Left but not woke 👌
I agree with most of this stuff except for the inference that Joe Rogan is any sort of benevolent being. He's perfect balance of a grown man with a developmental disorder, and a reactionary centrist dude. If he wasn't high constantly, I'm pretty sure he'd just go full alt-right.
@Wanker Wanker Been there, done that, still don't like the podcast that's half badly researched takes from reactionaries. Unless you're suggesting I need to get hit in the head with some falling rebar in order to enjoy JRE. In which case, you might be onto something there.
They weren't inferring that at all tho
If he wasn't high constantly he wouldn't be Joe Rogan
@@Forthelemon Amber didn't just infer it, she straight up said it.
"Joe Rogan was trying to explain the concept of bees (...) a benevolent man with a genuine curiosity about the world trying so hard - I think he was trying to explain the decline in the bee population but he couldn't get there because he had to first explain the concept of a bee"
But that's Amber for you. She probably meant to say "benign".
Primary elections sure do select for the worst gen election candidate...
Matt is our big boy of perpetual correctness. He was right about the election transition. Both parties vowed a peaceful transition.
My God you guys are so patronizing.
Man I like half the stuff this podcast does but then they have comments that will talk down things like taking in new ideas to adapt your worldview. You cant both consider people ignorant and criticize people who change when presented with information. Ideological commitment isn't a positive thing unless you assume you picked the right position from the start by chance.
but bernie did pick the right positions lmao
Don't need to change your talking points if you've been 100% correct since 1960.
@@pa1nted Then why talk down other's who do change their positions to the 'right' ones. You cant be condescending AND against others learning.
@@Chris-xq9jt there is a difference between genuine people growing and learning, and corporate owned sociopaths adapting their rhetoric to whatever they think will sell votes and continuing to shill the people and the world. Do you genuinely believe Hilary Clinton personally "grew" to get on board with gay marriage just as the slight majority of Americans became in favour of it?
@@pa1nted Youre using specific examples to defend a blanket statement though. A big part of public sentiment swaying in your example was people changing their minds without their jobs on the line.
Look at all the people Joe pulled in. Really made Bernie's campaign.
I give bernie credit for trying, but it's like speaking to a flat earther. In the same way 2020 Democrats courting republicans was a waste of time.
I'll say it, Bernie sanders (...the senator) has way more pull than Joe "alpha brain" Rogan
I'd argue there are probably quite a few Joe listeners/former Joe listeners in this audience.
Joe got a few of use to see the liberal side of things before he seemed to settle in the middle.
But I could be wrong.
I'm a leftist and I'll listen to him from time to time. Mostly because I'm also an MMA fan though, when he gets political it's always deeply embarrassing
I used to be a truck driver, meaning I had a lot of hours in the day that needed to be filled by podcasts. I'm not the type of person who can just listen to music to be entertained, and virtually all talk radio is either hardcore right wing, or sports, in which I have zero interest. I liked Rogan because he was frequently entertaining, and he's produced such a vast quantity of content. And he's had some great moments, like when he absolutely humiliated Dave Rubin. He was always a little too credulous with regard to woo/bro science and conspiracy theories, but he was never really that objectionable until he started in on covid denialist shit. Before 2020, I'd say he was probably doing more good than harm.
I get what they mean, during a general election getting non voters to vote for your side in an election, this would have helped a lot during a theoretical sanders trump election, however a primary is a whole different beast, you need to appeal to the core of the party to win. Non voters who sometimes vote in the general and will vote sanders if he is on the ticket will not vote in a primary, or are very unlikely to vote in a primary. Biden won the nomination by appealing to a huge core of the party, black voters. Sanders had broad appeal but the appeal was to people who would not be voting in the primaries, only the general. I think that the next left candidate that comes up to run should learn from sanders mistakes and try to appeal to the base of the party. Sanders should have won, the policies were popular with democrats, only problem was he was thinking of it like it was a general election, not an "get the base to like you" type contest
Sick gamers bought mics
Wait does Amber think snakes don’t have spines
15:50
>wake up
>it'll never be 2016-2020 again
>why even live
I don't get it, Rogan is successful 4x+ over. He was state champion in his sport at 19, got a successful TV show, got a successful career in his favorite sport, got arena sales level in his major career, and fell backwards into being the number one podcast show aka radio show ever. Near Schwarzeneggerian levels of success.
It's cuz he's on that sigma male grindset
Lmao you think that clown is on the same level as Arnold, what
@@narcopsy you are gay
There's literally zero evidence that Joe Rogan ever was a state champion or champion of anything. He's never been listed as a state champion of anything in any state of America. He's also 5'6" and admittedly does steroids
Which just proves you don't need to be smart to be successful in America
Wait what? Reaching non voters? This is hilarious to listen to because they’re just as detached as the people they’re ragging on. He might not vote (or smartly says he doesn’t...) but his listeners do for sure.
You missed their point.
One of them sounds like Ari Shaffir if he took the red pill on Marxism
Thirst
We can be absolutely assured that "the civil rights issue of our time" will be handled as effectively and permanently by Biden as have been the several prior civil rights issues of the past ... that are are still with us and worse than ever.
Slavery and forced segregation are worse than ever? What the fuck, man?
Rogan is a male Ellen, a Ellen. Sorry boutcha.
Hell yeah, epic mic drop moment!
@@anthonymilc9721 the real transgender man
Also, Joe Rogan literally just said "I dont think people who went through a male puberty should compete against those who didnt" (which is absolutely correct if youre not an insane person) and the actual thing he said that would be considered transphobic was he said "i dont care if you eanna play dress up and house" which is just a dumbass way ti describe it but its not as though these old Gen X libs dont see transpeople in the exact same way, Joe Rogan saying it is more that hes dumb, not that hes a malicious transphobe.
well he also did look at a picture of a trans woman athlete and say ‘THAT’S A MAN!’ so let’s not totally exonerate him here
Yeah I don’t mind Joe so much, but he can be such a dickhead about gender essentialism, especially what women should be like, and the venom and disgust he has for unattractive women is depressing.
@@L_Martin except all the dumbshits that prioritize this inanity over American foreign policy, climate change, and wealth equity *are* fucking gender essentialists. If a trans person's declaration is the truth about the reality of their gender and competing classifications of their gender are by definition false, then that's an essentialist fucking view. You know the necessary and sufficient conditions to be a member of the set: the whim of the trans person.
We're all fucked.
@@O748159263O yep. It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
It’s fascinating to read these comments. The left really do eat their own lol
It's not mystery how bees fly. Scientists have known forever.
It's a urban myth that's worked it's way through the culture and gets in the heads of people who are vaguely dumb with regard to science. So Joe probably heard that bees wings can't support their mass, thought about the size of bumblebees compared to their wings for 0.27 seconds and thought "damn dude that's fucking crazy" and then forgot about it until context reactivated that factoid.
@@IndieGinge you just summed up a sizeable amount of the podcast as well as accurately describing Joe's thinking process.
10/10
They flap their fucking wings. I thought this was common knowledge?
@@finished6267 According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Aged like milk and honestly not that great to begin with as joe has been friends with guys like Alex Jones for 20+ years
Joe Rogan is right wing, he's just not doctrinaire or partisan enough to be right wing on every single issue. I don't care about his "conspiracies" but Rogan says a LOT of transphobic stuff (and platforms a number of transphobes that wouldn't get nearly as much attention without him) and has said a lot of racist stuff as well.
He's culturally right wing but socially left wing.
He loves right wing ideas like medicaire for all, ending the wars, trans rights, and endorses far right politicians like Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. What a dick.
Joe is so racist, he adopted a black girl and raised her. What a dick.
Remember me lol
i will baby
take your meds
I’ve fucked with Joe since Menstealia. He’s not perfect but he’s introduced a lot of people to a lot of people who wouldn’t have possibly been familiar with otherwise. He’s our Dick Cavett.
Some people have road rage anyways and interpret an intersection as a personal insult.
He's not even close to Dick Cavett.
@@oxman5571 what the fuck kind of comment is this?
This aged bad lmao
Don't talk to idiots dispite evening if it's popular there winning at any cost is not winning lol but that patron is good tho
You should learn basic spelling and writing before you call anyone else an "idiot".
what the fuck are you talking about man?
Clear as mud.
Jibberish.
This hasn’t aged well
we know more about rogan now, but this still nails him pretty well. "open mind" (taken to it's logical conclusion,) is a good description of him.
just went and checked the podcast with sanders. what was the main point these guys made? that millions of people, mostly right-wing and/or non-voters would see sanders speak. the podcast has 14 million views on youtube alone. here's a couple of the highest liked comments:
"It’s interesting how people and news and so forth make Bernie sound crazy, but he actually seems to speak sense. I’m a staunch republican. This has been mind opening."
"This feels like the watershed moment for alternative media. Random mma guy joe rogan has a far better interview with a presidential candidate than any mainstream media and reaches vast amounts of people."
(and, to be clear, I hate rogan!)
Gotta agree with the guy around 10:00 - I never went to university and I think that's the main reason why I've always been vehemently racist, homophobic, and transphobic
That's... Not what he said
@@ongobongo8333 "You let one Joe Rogan listener who maybe didn't go to college, hasn't learned the right words to use, hasn't gone through the literal like social conditioning to make you value those things like being not racist and being, y'know, trans-positive, as personality traits. You literally do learn that shit in college."
@@connorglaze538 You're completely misunderstanding what he said. That entire chunk of the conversation they were mocking how exclutionary the liberal elites are, and that something like not going to college makes you an outsider. That quote was him paraphrasing what a liberal elite might say. His point was that you do NOT become racist, homophobic and transphobic just because you didn't go to college. But people who went to college have a sense that's the case. "You literally do learn that shit in college" meant that you "learn" in college that non-college people become racist because they didn't get a proper education.
@@jonathanblanton4642 I got the exclusionary liberal elite point, but his characterisation of people who haven't gone to college was definitely genuine or at least phrased that way. The woman told that story about someone worrying about an alt right guy joining their union right after and called it the "exact same conversation", likening people on the alt right to the guy's toxic caricature of a man who didn't go to college and therefore hasn't learned how not to be a bigot.
It's kinda ironic he's talking about how harmful liberal gatekeeping is here when the kind of language he used to describe Joe Rogan fans plays beautifully into the right wing narrative that everyone on the left sees anyone outside their circle as backwards intolerant hicks.
@@connorglaze538 That is NOT what they are saying. He was saying that's how college people view non-college people, and that it is NOT correct. Half of their podcast is spent trashing colleges and the cirriculum that they teach.
And were you not listenging at all to her union comments? She was laughing at and criticizing union members who were worried about alt-right people joining the union, and that it was the same conversation college elites have about non-college elites. And she then specifically said that if an alt-right guy joins your union, then you've won! That's a good thing, as opposed to what the union gatekeepers think.
Chapo wants on Rogan
I would watch that.
The closest it's come to that is the time Tim Dillon mentioned Nick Mullen in that JRE episode
@@stevem.o.1185 man shut up
@@stevem.o.1185 what episode was that?
@@maxmueller6787 I think it was the first episode of the JRE with Tim Dillon. There have been a few though.
I wouldn't go on Rogan, but not because of what he believes (if he believes anything at all). It's because his show is a waystation for every anti-SJW grifter who ever lived, and I'd rather not be in that company.
Good news! He didnt ask you to! He doesnt know who you are or care what you think! (;
Hahaha...Bernie Sanders gave JOE a platform. That shit is hilarious. Joe gave Bernie a platform. And he squandered it in the end.
@Duncan Haha okay. Because you totally win elections by refusing to criticize your opponent. He didn't just squander his appeal to Joe Rogans audience - - he squandered what's remaining of his supporters' patience. And if you think Bernie Sanders can just get the kind of numbers Rogan gets - - it's you who are delusional.
Why are Zoomers so obsessed with the phrase "aged like milk"? Like...do they think it rhymes?
It works OK with the word fine in there, which DOES rhyme (with wine). “That aged like fine….milk” has a twist ending.
Milk does not age well.
the cool thing about phrases is that people use them
That term has been used forever.
@@JayTea345 This is late but this always bothers me because yogurt and cheese exist. That's aged milk bud.
Guess these guys were quite wrong about Sanders...he can't win the primary nomination due to lack of votes.
top level trolling
I feel owned.
And his mom is getting evicted.
These guys are so wack
Ultra liberalism useful idiots, like any other Marxist....
@@Alexander-Kurtz nice word salad
@@copsarebastards Not a "word salad" for anyone who has an IQ above room temperature.
@@Alexander-Kurtz afraid it's the other way around. If you had an iq above room temperature you would realize that liberalism and communism are antithetical to each other.
@@copsarebastards Of course they are, that's not the point, but you don't have enough political culture to understand what I meant by "Neo Marxists are ultra liberalism useful idiots....".
I think these three clowns are boiling over with jealousy over Joe Rogan and his popularity.
They have one of the most popular podcasts in the world. Rogan is much more popular, but I dont think they are jealous.
Not everything boils down to jealousy my friend
They are basically defending rogan from liberal wokescolds in this clip. Did you even listen to it?
"Like....." "Like...." "You know, like....." "Like, you know....." "Like....." "Like......"
The Hole
Now guys...let's not make fun of people.
The Hole is probably smarter than your entire genetic lineage
Why cant they be quiet like your anime pillow.
blows me away people that work so hard to sound intelligent, were actually dumb enough to get behind a candidate that NEVER had a chance of winning.
You're saying that knowing Trump was elected? Lol Anyone has a chance of winning at this point