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@10 to LIFE I saw this interrogation video last night, and immediately thought of you lol! I was thinking I can't wait to hear what Annie has to say about this Bi+c# 🙃
they knew she was lying.Thats why when she reacted they jst sat there and looked at her,i can imagine what they are actually thinking low key.
Who asks for a hug from a detective? Idk that's mad weird. Also IF you are so scared of him that you grab a knife but then throw it (and hits him like a spear) you are now unprotected again that he could continue coming at her. So was she just going to keep picking knives up?
So far I’m 30 mins in …. First off , I don’t believe that she woke up that day & decided to murder her bf. I do believe for a fact however , that she is one of those psycho thots that always reacts way over the top with any and all big & small things. So especially during fights she is super dramatic & doesn’t think before she acts. Now these are the consequences! You react like a psycho & stab your boyfriend. You deserve to be locked up bc ppl like that , who never think before they react are a danger to the community. So she is right where she deserves to be.
As a 57 y/o woman, i see a person who has been treated like a child, her entire life
100% , used to getting her way out of things. Used to getting her way. Used to not hearing no. She even says she doesnt feel over 18.
She’s a spoiled little brat.
Yes and u can tell ur parents gave no punishment for her actions
It’s sad that her parents brought her up to fail by probably middle coddling her
very true precisely! And she’s a narcissist
She wanted to talk to him so bad so she could gaslight him like she always did. I’m a DV survivor and I have NO PITY for her!! I hope Christian gets Justice!
Same!
Absolutely. I am so confused by people asking “why didn’t HE leave” when they know they would never ask the same had a man been the aggressor. Her history of being a violent aggressor when drunk, which is reported to be often, is well documented. I wish he’d gotten the support he needed to get away from her and her narcissistic self centered sociopathy. .
I think that her reaction is legit- she killed a man in a fit of rage and now her hangover set in. She’s coming to terms with what she’s done and at times bargaining and in denial.
Exactly. Just because she's seemingly remorseful now, doesn't mean she didn't kill him in cold blood.
You are both 100% correct
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I agree
Jim Can’t Swim just did the interrogation of the guy that says Like a million times, the “I just wanted to talk to her” guy who killed his gf and didn’t know it, just thought he roughed her up and left her and she actually died hours later after he beat her and left, anyways the cops tell him she’s dead and he is just in disbelief and has a pretty on point reaction for someone who really didn’t know she was dead but still knew he had done it and he was screwed.
She’s not over acting. This is her realizing she’s potentially screwed and crying about herself. A narcissistic psycho never ever cries about what they did to someone else- those tears are all about how this will affect her AND she likely blames him for dying and causing her all these problems. I don’t think she meant to kill him in that moment, she just wanted to inflict harm on him like she always had but went too far this time. I don’t think she expected him to die but him dying was an extreme inconvenience for her and that’s what those tears are about.
That’s exactly what k think too !!
I agree. DV is hideously vile. And he wasn’t her first victim. The assumption that only men are the aggressors is wrong. My mother was the aggressor, so I lived it. Cortney is an alcoholic who becomes violent when she’s drunk. My mother wasn’t ever drunk, but she was aggressive and often became violent. I love her deeply, but she had mental health issues.
This is a girl, making a story and thinking crying is going to help... She would be uncontrollably and hysterically crying if she really cared. And she knew he was dead before she asked, or she had a good idea he didn't make it. She is literally saying 'if I had the questions beforehand" it isn't an SAT lol
If she did not mean to kill him, she would have called 911 and not her mother. She could have saved him or at least tried not wait so long with him bleeding out she knew what she was doing.
She absolutely murdered him and she needs to be held accountable for her actions. I hope and pray his family gets justice.
I watched every second of the 4+ hours of interrogation and if a jury truly doesn’t see through her bullshit I give up on humanity.
I gave up on humanity already...
Be ready to give up because she will get off.
@@MarR310How? Explain.
@@CaliJatt0809 to play devil’s advocate, she didn’t overkill then claim self defense. Unless I’ve missed details, he only had one stab wound. She asked if he was okay during her interrogation, and other things that a good, expensive lawyer could spin a decent self defense case out of…we can only hope that the jury is going to get all the information the public has gotten thus far. Unlike the Caylee Anthony case where Casey got off because (in my opinion) certain very incriminating circumstantial evidence was never shown during trial
@@joshuatree929 me also.
Everyone is all about themselves.
Her reaction is her freaking out. Realizing her life is over because her ridiculousness finally got someone killed. It’s honestly sad and I believe her grief when she cried hard that first moment. Then acting began IMO
Keep in mind she stabbed 2 ex boyfriends before this time. He was the 3rd boyfriend she stabbed. She DESERVED TO GO TO JAIL FOR LIFE.
Her reaction to his death is a reflection of her treatment towards him… disgusting. She’s not capable of compassion, empathy or remorse.
A true narcissist! Such a senseless killing. I feel for his family. Poor guy!
He was prepared to stay with people calling him the n word. That’s sick.
He was trauma bonded. It’s so hard to break free of that no matter how awful she was to him. Just heartbreaking 😢
@@samibachota5639 At least some white people understand this. Ta!
She killed an innocent man. I don't pity her at all.
Right?!
I had heard that the couple was abusive to each other, but it was a previous episode where Annie showed video and texts that proved she was the sole aggressor. That poor man and his grieving family. She felt entitled to use him as her punching bag and degrade him due to her obvious insecurities.
@@jenerin905 they were NOT abusive to each other. SHE was abusive to him & he’d sometimes shove her off him in defense. He NEVER once hit her
Im not sure hes innocent , I think it was probably a mutually abusive relationship but one of them should have seen sense and left before this happened, of course he didnt deserve to die but it is a lesson to anyone in this kind of relationship , just leave
@@StellaKnights hmmmmmmmm 🧐 wonder why you think that. 🙄
and a lesson? really??
SMH
Feels real. She's freaking out because she made horrible decisions and she knows she's screwed.
She's freaking out because she got caught and is doing the narcissistic "poor me"
Yes! My exact thought!
Yeah, I feel the same way. I don't think she is overreacting, I believe she is really terrified of what will happen to her.
Yes, and Christian won't be there to say it was all his fault, maybe saying he fell on the knife or something preposterous like that.
i agree
This is her experiencing consequences of her actions likely for the first time. I think she is in shock, because he has always been there after her rages, but not this time.
I completely agree and I commented something similar.
I agree with you too
The way she said “our friends” made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. If it had truly been an abusive situation her friends would just be happy she was okay. She is so concerned with appearances it’s repulsive.
Let’s not forgot that the police literally believed her whole story and set her free, the only reason she was arrested was because Christians family hired a lawyer
That white privilege is a powerful thing in America
That in itself is mind-blowing
Couldn't they not arrest her because there's a law in Florida if they claim self defense they have to prove it wasn't self defense before they could arrest her? Absolutely stupid they didn't at least hold her until they know more facts just incase.
Yes. AND she gave him the passcode to his phone. He recorded all the abuse that happened previously. It's nuts that they had access to that and still let her walk. And since they were given the code, there is NO reason his family shouldn't have been notified properly vs. getting a phone call from the coroner asking about organ donation. WTF.
@@hanselmansell7555 that’s awful but probably true
I do think her reaction to his death is genuine disbelief and panic… but not because of her love for him… but because she knows her life is over and is about to change drastically.
Spot on & perfect analysis of what she’s doing
Christian's interview a year ago in Las Vegas...to me looked like he was someone that didn't like confrontation and drama...fighting... She thrives on it....She has thrown fits her whole life and gotten her way...The fits just got bigger...Complete narcissism and entitlement... Before she knew he had passed, she was already setting up for a self-defense... Rest in peace Christian and I'm sorry for your suffering in the end... 🙏 💕 😇
THIS !!!
Right!! All their close friends, his family and even the apartment people said he doesn't seem to be the aggressor, she is. Any time people was seeing them fight they always said he would do things to get her to stop hitting him and shit but never closed fist her or open handed smack her. The ONLY time i heard he was aggressive was that hotel police body cam footage and even then it didn't sound like he hit her or harmed her nothing, smh just sad. If she gets off, she's gonna have a target on her head
In her interrogation, she admitted to antagonizing him. She even said something to the effect of, "he was pressing me, so I...". I will say that people can only take so much. One can't lie consistently, have everybody believing you but then when something bad happens, we all find out you're lying and YOU expect everyone to help and console you??? This is entitlement at its worst. I'm sure she did have feelings for him but she also said in the interrogation that they shouldn't have been together and I think she was completely correct. RIP Christian, Live In Hell Courtney.
@@simplyspice7916 that interrogation was WILD! Some of the shit she was saying was like..... 😶 girl you just stabbed and killed someone..
She doesn’t appear very upset she finally took his life. She appears very spoilt. RIP Christian I,m sorry it ended up this way, May Angels sing you to your final rest. ❤
As a Nurse, we teach people when they have panic attacks to check their pulse, grab their arms like in a criss Cross hug for tactile touch to ensure they are still alive, take a deep breath in and take deep breaths because when a person starts having a panic attack their mind controls it and it goes into an AMS state, which is an automatic mental state and does not have control by itself. She looks very normal and she is experiencing shock. Her cry also, sounds real. Panic attack differs from Anxiety because people having a panic attack feel like they will pass out and die. Anxiety attack is a feeling the heart racing your insides race. I believed they loved each other BUT, they were both EXTREMELY toxic together.
As an ex partier like Courtney, those of us that partake in snorting the "Devil's dandruff" sometimes check our pulses when we get excited or overly anxious. I feel with miss courtney here it's more likely this than her reacting fr a panic attack, considering she held it for 5 seconds. Just a show. Her entire life is a show.
clearly you haven't seen the evidence of her calling him slurs, hitting him, screaming at him, and her admitting to stabbing him in the past. i'm so tired of y'all saying when it involves male victims that "they were both toxic" y'all did that to johnny depp. christian wasn't toxic, he was fucking defending himself and dealing with a narcissistic abuser who wanted to get a rise out of him
@@yeos_angel_ a toxic relationship is when even being bad to the other, you are still there because of emotional dependence. So yes, in this case it was a toxic relationship
Thank you for explaining this. The comments are very depressing on these true crime channels sometimes. It's just a chance for people to grab their torches and pitchforks and yell about how one person is a monster. Of course, some cases are that black and white, but this one doesn't seem to be. Life is almost never black and white
I would agree with you if it continued for longer then 10 seconds but she does the gasping and the show then is completely fine with her breathing and her thoughts. She is in shock because she may not have wanted to fatally hurt him but she did want to physically hurt him it's a pattern of her behavior
I in NO way support her actions but I absolutely believe this is raw and intense emotion on her part the moment she realized that her toxic decisions have actually went to far and caused the death of her boyfriend, who seems like he was trying to be a good boyfriend! Plus she has to go through the stages of grief in a short time so I think it’s real and must be a sobering experience to someone in this position.
Agree 100%%
I agree 💯
Yea, agreed.
I agree. I was really on the fence on who I believed and I just wanted Justice to be served but after watching this I believe what she is showing is complete trauma. This is a trauma response.
She very obviously has anxiety issues. When she's looking around and looking people in the eye I think she's trying to gauge if it is real. They had told her before he was talking with investigators . She was so glad he didn't even have to have surgery. For her to all of a sudden be told he didn't make it that does not make sense to her at the moment.
100% agree. Guilty of intentionally murdering him or not, this reaction is raw, real and not acted in my opinion.
When I found out my husband had passed unexpectedly I was the same way. I was in shock and could not cry right away. Everyone reacts differently. You don't know what to do. Nothing seems real and you question everything.
Sorry for your loss 💕.
Not the same when you casually make 2 calls before calling 911 (almost 10 min of other calls) as he lay there bleeding to death & asking her to help saying "im dying". She deserves the death penalty & if released will do it to someone else.
First of all I am upset that happened to you and I hope you are at the part where you remember all the good memories you had together 💞
Unfortunately with her she physically stabbed him and knew when he was taken by ambulance that it was serious and he could die so while yours was a complete shock she knew her actions and that it was possible x
@@elizabethjarvie6077 in my opinion No one deserves to die regardless what they've done yes I do believe she is guilty for murdering him but just because the death penalty is llegal doesn't make it okay, thats just playing god and thats if he's even real no one knows for sure dont get me wrong I do believe there is a higher power but no one really knows for sure what or who that is plus if u want someone to suffer for their crimes than them being in prison for 25 to life in prison is in fact suffering bc no one would want that. Death is just an easy way out in my opinion.
@@LizzieCATs38
The reason there are literally millions and millions of criminals thriving in our society right now is from generations of criminals, cold- blooded killers, being recycled into society. In the USA if you get 25 yrs you'll be out in 10. Robbing, killing, loss of human life has become FAR TOO "NORMAL". I'm sick and tired of it. Let em hang.
Long ago, people who killed your mom, your dad, your sister, your brother, your child,, in cold blood "because they have issues" we're fu*kin drawn and quartered in the public square. A horrible thing yes.
Not provided for the rest of their lives in a big house they continue to commit crimes in, and then get released upon society again to kill more people. (Statistically that's EXACTLY what happens).
The death penalty is the best deterrent for crime, look at other countries it actually DOES REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DEATHS BECAUSE ITS A BIG DETERRANT. Here, the thugs just get out and raise more thugs.
Protecting societies' citizens from those who choose to live and die like cold blooded reptiles is a necessary responsibility.
@@elizabethjarvie6077 well thats your opinion but that still doesn't make it right and thats my opinion.
her reaction was real. selfish. but real. you can see how quickly she shifts from shock to panic to self-preservation to grasping the weight of the whole situation. She definitely has pretty severe narcissistic traits and doesn't realize how obvious her selfishness comes across. All her exaggerated reactions were probably just what she thought she should portray for the context of the situation, but her shock ultimately came down to her realizing her life is over.
Exactly, NOT because HIS life is over cuz she killed him.
I agree and like Tammy Sytch, her attitude clearly shows she has no remorse for life and a mark for herself. Life in prison is totally in her future so she can kiss her glamour life good-bye
I would bet she is more concerned with her imcome stopping. She probably thnks she will get away with this like she has gotten away with everything else her whole life. She needs to deal with the consequences of her actions.
It's nice to see her come to the realization that she's going to be held accountable for her murder of an innocent man. Perhaps, if she had self-respect and any decency she could have avoided this life of depravity and then a productive member of society but alas she chose to be a selfish, narcissistic, prostitute.
I agree, this was exactly the impression I got.
When she finds out that he’s gone her reaction to me is as if her life flashed before her eyes and she realized her mistake, also was she drunk? She seems impaired…
If not I think shes a pill popper
This is what it looks like when you live a life without consequences. I don’t believe she intended to kill him, I believe she can’t think outside of her emotions. In this moment (hearing he does) she doesn’t have a script ready. She cannot balance her emotions, she can’t self sooth, she only knows how to perform. Tragic!
I don't know how you can mistakenly (edit spelling) kill someone you beat on and assault regularly. That's not the first time she stabbed him and he's not even the first boyfriend she's stabbed.
If you don't know that assaulting and stabbing someone can lead to their death, then you definitely need to be locked up for the rest of your life.
@@NottyAries I also don’t believe she meant to kill him and was shocked to find out he died BECAUSE she had done it before and he had been “fine”. This time she took it all the way and it seemed like she was genuinely shocked to hear that. In my opinion that is
@@NottyAries she needs some help... she won't get life in prison.. so she should get treatment before she's released.
@@awkwardautistic what? She will get life
I don't think she meant to either. They were toxic together. Something was bound to happen if they didn't break up for good.
Not being able to cry can be part of disassociating as her emotions have become too overwhelming.
I had my volume super high. Her crying hurt my ears. Off w/ her head!
Or being a sociopath
I agree with you. My son died and I cried when i found out it happened but I couldn’t cry at the funeral i felt weird like I was tripping and in a dream. I am not standing up for her but u can’t tell anything off of a persons reaction to death. It is a weird thing to experience.
Yeah, I’m kind of like that myself. Sometimes if something is so shocking, it takes a while to really compute. It’s almost as if your in a dream like state that seems so unreal that it can’t be true. Eventually the emotion of things does catch up though. I’ve also cried so much, that there does come a point where you almost feel numb and you just can’t cry anymore. I’ve just been through a lot in my life.
@@cassrose4444 i think that’s two completely different scenarios unless you killed your kid which I’m assuming you didn’t.
this is why people NEED to know their rights. they are allowed to lie & tell you whatever. ESPECIALLY if you're innocent, ALWAYS demand a lawer. point. blank. period.
it will be interesting to see how this plays out in court 😔
This reaction seems 100 percent real. She's in shock and now trying to wrap her mind around what all this means. Especially being this is caused by her own hands
her lawyer is definitely going to try to get this interrogation thrown out because she wasn’t provided an attorney and she clearly wanted one (not sure if it will work because she didn’t say specifically she wanted one, but it’s obvious that’s what she was trying to do)
I was going to say this. About all she said was ,”do I need to get a lawyer?” After asking if she could talk to her dad. It’s apparent she was very unsure of talking
To them. I don’t have pity for her, I just want this handled correctly so it wouldn’t get thrown out.
@@dhall75608 exactly!
I agree
Nope she said “my dad is my lawyer, like he handles that stuff so that’s who I should talk to. I should call my dad.” She also said “because I’m NOT going to take a public defender” like it’s beneath her or something. Nothing the detectives did during this interrogation was wrong, she’s over 18 so it’s not mandatory for her dad to be there. They did the courtesy of calling her mom to let her know she’s there so that she could fly in.
Thing is her lawyers have almost definitely seen this already, so they should have already asked for this to be ruled inadmissible as a pretrial matter (not sure they have already done this).
whoa the fact she started off her "story" by saying she was watching Christina Randall...its so crazy cause Christina is how i learned of this case...crazy how life works, she deserves everything coming to her..
Yeah same. I thought she said that. I was like….wooooah
@ChristinaRandall
Yes! So true!
What! She said that! I didn’t catch it. What a meta moment.
Yeah I was shook when I heard her say it!
If they read her Miranda rights (which is usually the case) then it’s on her to specifically ask for an attorney or refuse to speak. They are not responsible for interpreting what her words or actions may mean.
👍it's not about whether she wants a lawyer, it's about whether she asked for one. She didn't.
I agree. She didnt ask.
Like mentioned even if she asks is on her to STFU
Your presentation of content is spot on! Thank you!
Her reaction seems genuine & normal to me. U have no idea how u would react to such a thing until it happens to u. When I found out my parents died, it felt like I got punched in the gut … lost my breath… couldn’t breathe & oddly enough, not alot of tears until it actually sunk in much later… kept questioning reality, denying it to myself & just wanted to crawl into a ball. I think it’s a genuine reaction.
well she willingly murdered him, u didn't murder ur parents lol
Idc if she’s genuine she’s still an evil disgusting creation whether she’s hiding it or not.
Some of it feels over exaggerated, that gasp especially until I put into account that I believe that she just thought the doctors would magically repair Christian for her to break all over again like last time.
Oh look, if it isn’t the consequences to her actions. 😐
@@coochie116 …how do u kno? JUST KIDDING! Lol
She killed her boyfriend. There is no freaking out. There is worry she is getting arrested.
Me too! I agree with you.
I watched the interrogation yesterday and it solidified what I already believe. Which is that She’s a psychopath that finally killed him and needs to be held accountable. I saw another interrogation from April 2021 in Vegas and the police asked Christian do you ever feel threatened by her, do you ever feel like she’s going to kill you and he said “no”. SO sad and haunting.
They were in a toxic relationship and during yet another fight..in a fit of rage she stabbed him one time and then called 911 and begged for them to hurry. She isn't a psychopath.. she's overly emotional. Seems borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorder. I'm sure he wasn't innocent either..
She’s not a psychopath. She probably has histrionic personality disorder. She absolutely did not mean to kill him. She needs to be held accountable. 2nd degree murder will not stick. This whole interview will not be admissible. She asked for a lawyer several times.
She is not a psychopath. She is someone with poor impulse and emotional control. If she was a psychopath she wouldn't have called for help. She is still despicable but let's not generalize the term psychopath to everything
@Awkward Autistic she killed her bf not a time for victim blaming!
They should have never been together. What a toxic relationship.
This case has been insane; I’m really hoping that this all gets resolved and that justice is served
When this first happened I was thrashed on social media for not rushing to judgment. I have an ex that was abusive & knew how to push my buttons to wind me up so I looked crazy. Obviously I didn’t kill him but I was always seen as the mental case because no one saw his emotional & psychological abuse.
Now that more information is out I do think she killed an innocent man that she abused.
I feel you, these abusive people are the best "manipulators" even manipulating police so you get arrested after they abuse you, Victimizing the victim.
there’s a video where he keeps telling her stuff it’s obvy he knew how to get her to that point, it’s triggering to watch. i still genuinely think she was afraid for her life and he wouldn’t leave, he choked her, pinned her down before she got the knife, and still wouldn’t leave? uhhhhhh i cant.
@@lovelybluntdoll Do you know how I can find the video? If he’s winding her up that may change things. Also, was he defending himself when he held her down?
Hugs hugs from one that unfortunately knows this only to well, I too was in a abusive relationship where he twisted it to it being me ...15 years out and the mask has slipped and through his now completely unhinged behaviour every one can see that e is the abusive one...
I’m sorry that happened to you, I can sadly relate regarding my ex husband.
I agree with u and I also think she kept looking at her hands realizing that it was HER HANDS that put an END to HiS LIFE! And thanks for shortening the 4 and half hour interrogation into 30 mins. Much appreciated! THANK YOU FOR ALLLLLL YOUR HARS HARD WORK on such cases! YOU DO A FANTASTIC AWESOME JOB! I will be a subscriber of YOURS “4 LIFE”
Thanks girl for watching all 4 hours of this and picking out the juicy parts for us :). You are fantastic !!!!🎉
She literally said everything except I WANT TO TALK TO A LAWYER
Well she watches true crime she mentioned christina Randall who has been in prison , so it's crazy she didn't know to ask
She asked for her father - to have him call the laywer - and she removed the paper away several times.
this is kinda touchy .... I think her asking for her father to get her lawyer, and not signing the paperwork......theres a loop hole here....on her side...she needs a good attny....
I think her actual attorney is going to somehow claim they didn't explain the proper due process, played coy under duress and therefore invalidate the interrogation. She's as guilty as guilty gets. And I don't think she's going to see the full consequences of her actions
Hi- therapist here. I’m not able to diagnose her but she seems to have some pretty strong cluster B (narcissistic, histrionic, and borderline) personality traits - some of her reaction is actually what clues me into the borderline traits - the desire for physical comfort from her mom, feelings of depersonalization/derealization. These could be part of the panic attack too, which would be a “normal” reaction to learning the information that she learned, though I think the personality disorder traits are what are giving you the 🚩🚩🚩 vibes.
But as far as the reaction you were highlighting, looks like a pretty standard panic attack. She probably felt she needed to go to the hospital because her heart was likely racing from the feelings of panic.
I’m oversimplifying for the sake of brevity but there’s a lot more in here that is fascinating from a mental health standpoint. Thanks for covering this!
Everybody in this video is pretending to give a shit and be caring/compassionate.
I completely agree on the panick attack she looks to be having and the normal reaction she is having. Surely she has some mental health/personality issues.
I'd love to hear your take on the girl that killed her mother, thinking she was her sister in law. The psychosis is heartbreaking to watch.
Thank god someone w a humble attitude, not the I know everything bs. I’m sick of that crap.
I was thinking her reaction could have been real, panic, shock and almost blank. I’ve never been in this situation but I just relate to times where I was told devastating news and it took some time to sink in.
She's just told that Christian was dead and her first reaction is. Will someone feel sorry for ME? Give me a hug? Abusers like Courtney must always be right.They can never admit wrong or will ever accept full responsibility for their actions. Nothing can make them happy, so they must make their partner miserable. Their narcissistic personality won't allow them to think of how their partner feels. It's all about them. Toss in anger issues and some alcohol and you have a recipe for disaster. Each and every time. Watching that video of them in the elevator broke my heart. When they asked about this password on his phone, it sounds like his password was this birth date which was soon to come, but sadly she made it to where he would never get to celebrate. If Christian had never met her or if he had gotten far away from her at the first signs of abuse, he would be alive and happy today.
I'm listening while I do chores instead of watching, so I had to keep reminding myself that Annie was commenting during the interview lol We got to the part where Courtney goes "can I please go to the hospital" and I hear "uh, no" and I was like damn, that's a sassy detective! Wait no that was Annie 😂😂😂
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It's probably a combination of genuine sadness, shock, fear, anguish. Her entire life is over at this moment. And she knows it.
I still think she thought she was going to get away with it though.
Exactly what I thought.
I don’t think she has genuine sadness. Only concern for herself
just to play Devil's Advocate: it is very weird thing to be told info like this and then just have people stare at you. I have experienced it (not as a murder suspect but I have been informed of deaths and then just had people look at me in silence. It makes you feel like you have to give a response- like thats what they are waiting for, so the response can come off weird. It's a weird situation
I agree. When I find out about deaths I feel like the other person is always waiting for the reaction. I don't cry in front of people and I'm always afraid people are reading me as a psychopath because I don't react "normally" and they're WATCHING.
Yes I agree, it's really difficult. I've also felt this
Or it’s weird for her to be held accountable for her actions by people with actual authority over her.
@@ArtemisUnderscoreJ well sure. It could be a lot of things. Just saying acting weird like that could be many things
@@Fran_Glass yeah exactly. It's happened a few times for me. I have responded weird a time or two and other times actually told them to quit "looking at me" lol
I actually think her reaction is indicative of her age and lifestyle, sprinkle in some very authentic shock. I mean really, how would any of us react if we found out we murdered someone? Unfortunately, some of us have to experience some very REAL consequences before we learn that life is much more than the protected bubble we live in.
agreed
So the final fight was about not being able to share their location with one another because he went to Subway? I can't even imagine how toxic that relationship was.
Oh, and a girl said "hi" to him as he rode by on his bike to get Courteny a sandwich. How dare he allow that.
Have you heard the recordings he secretly made of them fighting? She rages and rages, and can't seem to do anything for herself! This girl needs a mental ward.
I think the guy did not leave because of the money and life style he got out of her, I hope she never gets out of jail.
@@scarletibis1013 I havent. I did see another video of them when police were called for DV. Supper scary and sad cuz you know whats going to happen to him.
@@OlgaSmirnova1 I don't know what he did for a living. However, it made it seem that they had the same social group and lifestyle when they meet. I don't think a girl like that would date a "broke" guy. But I could be wrong.
These detectives strategies are a good way of her getting out of this in the future. Violating her constitutional rights and not letting her talk to a lawyer. I see a mistrial coming. Her behavior is weird and I’m sure she’s guilty af but they should have handled this more professionally.
It's a shame when guilty parties get away with their crimes, because the police don't do their jobs, or do them incorrectly.
Yeah, she was CLEARLY asking to contact a lawyer. Any defense attorney worth anything could get her out of this. Not because she’s not guilty, but because her rights were violated
@Sarah If she chooses to not stay silent and specifically ask for her lawyer, explain how it's the fault of the officers. They CLEARY read her, her rights! Which state YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FUCKING QUIET she did not! You have the right to an attorney and to HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY PRESENT! She was asking for her DAD, not a damn lawyer! Learn the law!
Not true. She didn’t ask for a lawyer. The law is very clear, you have the say those words. Hinting or asking “ do I need one” is not the same.
My God. I’ve cried more over breakups than she did after murdering her boyfriend.
Sing it Sistah!
@@stephenmcgraw8871 it’s so crazy to me!
THANK YOU!
An ex died 10 days after our breakup and it still to this day gets to me. That was almost 3 years ago.
This is accurate, but I know when my grandmother unexpectedly passed, when my little brother unalived himself, and when my best friend of 12 years overdosed- I was never able to shed tears for them that day. It took days for one of them, months for another, her lack of crying is the least important part of this.
The police can lie to you, or withhold information. They can tell her he’s being treated even if they know he’s already died, that way she might be more inclined to admit what she did thinking it’s not as serious if he’s only hurt than if he had died.
I think she is guilty, she was abusive, but she was truly shocked when she learned about his passing. She probably loved him and never thought things would go this far.
She didn’t love him. She loved the way he loved her.
@@coffeecrimegal5968 Well said! 👍
I think it's normal bc she is in shock, she's lost someone she loves and she also knows it's her fault. The world literally just fell on her. I've been in a situation that was so unbelievable that I couldn't cry bc I was in shock and disbelief.
Literally?
@@asmrpinotnoir figuratively. 😂
Agree. That’s doesn’t mean I necessarily pity her, but that’s also my tKe away from the video.
Time to grow up, after being a spoiled brat her whole life, always running to Daddy to solve her problems she can't talk her way out of this one. She gets what she deserves. Brat!!
She did cry
Keep on being the only TH-camr to take EVERYONES ethics into mind. Love that about you girl!
Agreed. Everyone deserves fair legal treatment. Even monsters. This is America.
Totally agree!
I’ve always agreed with everything you say, however on this one I can’t.. I don’t believe she’s overreacting I actually think that she’s reaching this way cuz she’s realizing what she’s done. And that not only is his life done but so is hers.
Well certainly she is hoping the 2 men will be sorry for her.
Clinical Psychologist here, I think her reaction is real… not everyone reacts fainting or yelling. She’s in real shock and probably regretting her actions.
She did cry
I agree.
I agree with this @Annie Anna
I agree. I was in shock when my daughter passed away. My face went numb and panic set in and it took 5 minutes to hit me. I was in denial at first than a wave of emotions came over me and I balled nonstop
Yes she is so crazy that she just stabbed a guy and truly thought he would be okay. I'm not sure she intentionally murdered him.
Judging from the fact she was drenched in his blood, and the way she kept repeating how far away he was from her when she “threw” the knife, she knew he was dead. Her intent in describing the distance was a way to distant her from her own repulsive actions. Rest in peace, Christian, and I’m so sorry this happened to you
She didn't know he was dead... when she called 911 he was still alive and talking.
I totally agree with you
@@awkwardautistic
And she waited 10 min to call 911 while he lay there bleeding out & saying "im dying". She felt she had to make a couple more important calls 1st.
@@elizabethjarvie6077 I said she's a stupid piece of shit lol...I just said she didn't want to kill him.
I really think she’s shocked he’s dead when she’s told. Could you imagine realizing you murdered someone and ruined your whole life.
She knew he was dead she was just really hoping he wasn't.
Right. She was thinking it would be like every other time she *almost* killed him.
@@thatlaserlady3899 no she didn't... and it's not like she was trying to kill him. You wouldn't stab someone once and in the area she did... if you were trying to stab them to death. She stabbed him one time
@@awkwardautistic ?????? well she stabbed him in the chest with a huge kitchen knife. one time is more than enough to kill someone.
@@awkwardautisticObviously where she stabbed him did kill him but regardless you should know stabbing someone anywhere could cause serious injury if not fatal.
Her reaction was real. I had a similar one when I found out my brother died. Tears didn't come for awhile I was in shock. Even though she killed him she was still intimate with him and obviously cared about him. This doesn't excuse what she did at all but I see her as being genuine in her reaction
So sorry for your loss.❤️ Same here; I didn't cry when my mom passed bc of shock. Iykyk 😔
I think her reaction to him being dead is genuine, it’s never predictable how someone will act when they find out their bf is dead … let alone the fact that she killed him
I love that she said she was watching a Christina Randall video when this happened. I love her channel!! You'd think that if she was a fan, she'd know better than to stab her bf and NOT asking for a lawyer.
I was searching the comments for this!!! Poor Christina getting a shoutout from this horrible person!!! You’re right, she didn’t learn a damn thing from watching her videos!!!
Well I hope this girl paid really close attention to Christina's incarceration videos!!! 😬🤣
@Samantha Green closed captions are your best friend with any and all interrogation videos 😉
@Samantha Green closed captions are your best friend with any and all interrogation videos 😉
I found my people. I thoughts that’s what she said. Keep Our Christina Randall name out ya mouth. 😂
I believe her reaction to learning he had passed was genuine. I think it was shock and then panic. Knowing what she's done and having racing thoughts about what is to come. I can't imagine the severity of what she must be experiencing here, but checking her pulse and putting her hand on her chest feels extremely familiar to how I try to ground myself when I feel an anxiety attack coming on because it feels like my heart is going to just burst.
Ya I can tell she had a real anxiety attack there lol
Exactly. Don't like the girl one bit but everyone coming after her for checking her pulse clearly doesn't know of or has ever needed to use grounding techniques themselves. And really that should be the least of what to criticize her for!
My thoughts exactly, she was definitely in shock. When you first hear news like that, you don't believe it's true. I can only imagine that she was thinking, these police officers would not tell me Christian was dead, if he wasn't. I'm sure all of that went through her mind and that's why she just sat there with her hands on her head. Then she was genuinely thinking of the last thing he had to eat and everything which is usually something a mother thinks of. I think she has a massive drinking problem which majorly changes her personality. I don't think she's necessarily A narcissist. I think she's still very upset to this day that Christian is gone and she is the one that took his life. I've seen videos where she's attacked him and I've seen videos where people have said he has tried to run up on her or did run up on her. Not those exact words but he went after her as well so I really don't know what happened. Christian seemed like a really sweet person but I had a boyfriend who was pretty major alcoholic at 27 years old and I was forced to break up with him but he was pretty good at acting like nothing was ever his fault. He was also pretty good at acting like he never did anything wrong which was not the case. He got blackout drunk and did really messed up things to me. Granted we were in a flood and I was traumatized after losing our home so I eventually just had no choice but to leave him once I met my husband but I could easily see a situation like that ending up similar to something like this had I not quit drinking. Both of us drinking was a toxic situation and it was getting to the point where I just looked at him like the biggest dick in the world. Drinking and driving ultimately claimed his life and I've never been at such a loss in my life because we were going to get back together because the drinking had cut down a lot or so I thought. I don't really know what to think about this whole situation. I know that she said, she's not even sure if it's Justified, that right there tells me she's not narcissistic. People over use the word narcissistic these days
If you know a little more about the case you would see why it’s bs
@EssenceEtienne just because she's crazy doesn't mean she actually meant to kill him and the reality if the situation isnot gonna make her freak out
So hard to believe that ANYONE would actually expect people to believe that knife “throwing” story. That would be a hard feat for experienced knife throwers.
I think she was afraid of looking guilty, and that's why she didn't ask for an attorney outright.
Good point
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I think that her initial reaction after finding out he passed away is a combination of panic, replaying what happened and what she’s said so far in her head, I don’t see remorse as much as I see panic and anxiety. It’s mind blowing to me they don’t have a female detective in there with her but 2 male detectives when it’s a DV call, even if she is the perpetrator. I don’t think what I’ve seen in this video is damning but this will never make it into the courtroom since she clearly tried to exercise her right to an attorney.
She "tried" to exercise her right to an attorney, but she didn't keep her trap shut, as she should have. Technically, I think it will be admissible. (I haven't watched the entire thing yet, though. Maybe I missed something.)
@@beautifulwaterfall222 We hope it will be admissible, but theres a difference between hoping and believing. We all want to see her go down for this, but we need to prepare for the very likely scenario of her walking.
I agree 💯
She clearly tried to exercise her right to an attorney. Those detectives just ignored her because they didn’t want her to have one. SMDH
💯 to what you said . She was also very likely all coked out and obviously drunk . So her reaction might have been different if she was sober but we’ll never know 🤷♀️ and this won’t make it into a courtroom by any means they legit just ignored her . She didn’t have a phone, she knows her dads number, her dad has an atty number, the only way to get an atty is to call him: this is a clear Miranda violation .
As someone with an anxiety disorder, that looks like a very real panic attack. The pulse checking is because your heart races so fast you think you're going to have a heart attack. It's something you very much fixate on when you have a panic disorder
she was faking it lol, I know what you mean but she was faking it
I have anxiety, I breathe through mine, I don't check my pulse. I was taught how to deal with an anxiety attack, the pulse was never a lesson as I knew my heart was beating through my chest. I know each person has different levels of anxiety and ways of dealing with it, but she is putting on a show! Yes, her pulse is racing. She now realizes she is going down for murder!
Agree!
@@lg4127 that's u
Yes...I a sober alcoholic,,,20 plus yrs...I'd detox and have rapid heart rate..,it's instinctual for many to pulse check..,she was a heavy drinker too and was stressed and possibly withdrawing too.
As far as the theatrics I believe her whole persona is theatrics. That's how she gets her way. At one point she thinks she has the hope of going home or hospital, most likely for another performance, then she realizes it went from a DV case to murder charges. No more high rise apartments, no more high life, no more fans. She will have no control over anything or anybody. That's when she holds her hair back from her face, that's the OMG moment. Being as how she gets into so much trouble you'd think she would know the magic phrase, but Daddy is the adult while she plays plays plays.
100%, she played these detectives. Her reaction was all about herself.
She said she wish they told her the question before hand because she would know how to answer them. If it's self defense.... Why wouldn't the truth satisfy your behavior?
I think her reaction made sense. She looked like she wanted to crawl out of her own skin. Wether it was self defense or not it’d all still be very surreal and panicky.
She so fake narcissistic! She need to go to jail!
I absolutely agree. The detectives definitely acted like Christian was going to make it when she first asked and she actually asked. We get people that never even ask how the other person is. This may sound weird but this chick is on OF, and I think may just be different than how we would be in a room with only men. But anyways, I feel the detectives didn’t insinuate that Christian could even die, but maybe more was spoken that I didn’t hear or not included. I feel a great deal of the conversation happened when she thought he was going to make it, including her “confession”. So I think I would think it wasn’t real too. I didn’t think it was that bizarre. And I also understand why she would do the sorry thing, I used to apologize all the time even when I really shouldn’t have and this isn’t that uncommon. I understand why you would also not be wanting to be bawling while trying to tell what happened, and you would be nervous and have anxiety because you haven’t been in a situation with police officers like that before. It’s so easy to say someone’s behavior is odd or bizarre when we have never really been through that experience. I’m sure hardly anyone will agree with me on all that, but I still don’t necessarily think she acted in self defense only.
I agree.
If someone told me my boyfriend died and I was responsible, I'd SCREAM, whail, vow to take my own life... omg my reaction would be entirely different. I was literally crying thinking about the scenario while watching this and I shed almost as many tears as her.
@@respondingtopsychopaths I agree, however not everyone reacts the same, I’ve seen people (family members) who didn’t cry at a funeral. Everyone is different
They absolutely tried to get her to NOT get a lawyer when she asked. I agreed.
She said “do I need a lawyer ?” When she has to say “I want my lawyer.” She has to be specific asking if she needs one over I want my lawyer two different things
I get that, but she was definitely asking I just don't think she knew how. And those police officers ABSOLUTELY knew what she was asking, because they very quickly tried to convince her not to.
@@Legallyblonde1xo agreed.
She has a record. She knows what she was supposed to say. She was trying to make herself look less guilty by asking to call her dad so she could say "_my dad says_ I need to have a lawyer". The cops knew what she was trying to pull, so they danced around it enough that she didn't actually ask for an attorney.
@@Legallyblonde1xo she knew what to do. They always read her right to her while putting cuffs on her. Cause in the Miranda rights it’s “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.”
“Turned into a ‘little’ argument” and stabbed him to death? Unbelievable. She is evil.
Yes she sure did! No matter what she did. She has a right to speak to her lawyer.
She didn’t specifically ask for one … she asked to call her dad … that’s not asking for legal counsel.. seems like she was smart enough to know this but just didn’t know what to say … luckily .. she murdered him and tried to flee and evade responsibility … she can explain to them why she wants to speak to her dad but she didn’t specifically say I want to speak to my lawyer … not call her dad so HE can speak to them
Yes you can tell her parents handled alot for her and they still very much "babied" her (for lack of a better word) Her asking for her Dad, so her Dad could call her attorney was how she was trying to say that she wanted an attorney. She thought that the detectives would baby her and react to her the way that most other men did. Wrong.
@@SteenyBean I disagree. I specifically heard her say I need to call my dad because he handles my lawyer. To me that is asking to talk to her lawyer. She realized how serious the situation was. I'm not trying to debate if she is guilty or not. Just that she asked to speak to someone who could get her legal counsel.
@@maggiebrooks2550 yes she was "babied". I agree. And I agree that her asking to talk to her dad because he handled her lawyer was her asking for legal council. They may end up regretting not allowing her to do that.
@@shortcake5472 Agreed, that's an excellent point that could be argued by her attorneys to keep evidence out.
I have a lot of feelings about her reactions. For one, when she found out he had died she started loudly sobbing, etc. But, she never asked for tissue, never wiped her face, and then just stated talking. I also find it sad but interesting that near the beginning all she seems to want is her mother and father. I am very sure that they have both ALWAYS gotten her out of situations, pampered her, never required her to face reality or responsibilities throughout her life. It seems she cannot function without them. I believe she wanted her father to make the decision as to whether or not to get an attorney. I also think that she did not come right out and ask for an attorney because she believes (like a lot of people) that if you do that it is because you are at fault. Her demeanor, her hesitation when describing what supposedly happened suggested she was trying to think of the best "story or scenario" to make herself look the victim. I do agree that she is self absorbed. I also recognize that she is young and people handle stress and grief differently.
I agree. I think she’s a spoiled brat and it ended up costing someone their life…she didn’t MEAN to kill him, but she did and she should be held accountable and that’s hard for her to accept and think of anything outside of that in this moment bc she has NEVER been held accountable for anything. Mom and Dad have held her hand through life and he did also which is why she felt comfortable enough to stab him, bc she thought he wouldn’t tell on her or get her in trouble. Part of me wonders if she actually did throw it at him but from closer and harder than she says. I don’t think she was being abused, I think she was the instigator and the abuser.
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Theres something so satisfying when people like this actually get whats coming to them. People who treat others like shit, used to getting out of things, never hearing no.
Takes two to tango...
I don’t doubt that she’s guilty but I don’t think she meant to kill him and she’s so concerned with herself that she’s not capable of showing remorse. My heart hurts for his family. I hope justice is served
I think her emotion when she is told he is actually dead is genuine, but it is one of "the rest of my life is ruined" not "omg, I took someone's life". That is why it seems cold. Wow. I pray his parents get justice because she seems like a very cold hearted B. That poor man should have left her when he had the chance.
They really toed the line there with the waiver. I feel no sympathy for her but if they messed that up it wouldn’t matter how guilty she was.
Exactly. No pity, but you want it handled properly so if she’s guilty, she gets convicted and it can be used as evidence.
I honestly feel like the minute they tried to get her to sign while she was “asking questions” In an almost “get her while she’s distracted” is questionable practice
I think it would’ve been throw out by now by her lawyers, and she would be able to be free wouldn’t she?
@@KnightsWhoSayNi222 not necessarily free it just couldn’t be used as evidence on court. Just depends on what part of the process that would come into play as to when they fight this as evidence. That part I’m unsure of
@Erin possibly but it may come later after discovery is done. They would have to make a case for it and even that could be shown at trial to be in her favor.
I cried so much, I can’t cry right now. Seriously 🤬
Her reaction seems real to me. I get panic attacks and they can sometimes come out of nowhere like that with sudden gasping for breath. It seems like she’s trying to find grounding techniques to calm herself down like focusing on her pulse or sometimes physical touch especially hugs can help because they can help suppress the sympathetic nervous system. Watching her, I believe that she has been in therapy and some of her weird behaviors actually seem more like coping techniques that could come from a therapist. I also think that she was genuinely shocked that he was dead because she was so used to her actions having no consequences that this genuinely surprised her.
This is exactly what I was thinking 💯
I agree
Spot on
True!
I agree 💯
Not a Courtney fan, but when I get overwhelmed with anxiety I do weird things like check my pulse because I feel like I'm not real and am going to die lol. I feel like her reaction was pretty normal. Just my 2 cents no one asked for 😄 Thanks for the covrage.
That's how I feel about this, too. Not trying to sympathize with her at all, but her actions resemble mine when learning of my top 3 most traumatic deaths, and I'm a high anxiety person. But just because her reactions are normal, doesn't mean she is less guilty.
And she did mention that she’s in (or was in) therapy so that could have been something her therapist suggested doing. NOT to say that she’s not at fault, though.
@@mirandax0x agree
@@JujuMama23 agree
I feel like Courtney is guilty of at least manslaughter but these cops may have fucked up the whole case by not allowing her to call her Dad for her lawyer. She was definitely telling the Detectives that she wanted her lawyer.
The Detective lied about the phone call only under 18 and he shouldn't have said that she can sign the waiver and call her lawyer later. I understand they wanted her to talk but pulling this type of stuff will get a case thrown out and allow a guilty person to walk.
100%.
I hope ponytail guy is on desk duty for a good long while. He flubbed this whole interrogation.
Yeah, this made me so mad.
I agree. She won't have a public defender but a lawyer who knows exactly what to do to get this thrown out.
Yeah this may come back to bite them... she totally was wanting a lawyer first smh...
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She’s actually the best because sometimes TH-cam gets boring from watching nothing new over and over! So when I found her channel the other day I subscribed so quick because I haven’t found a channel that actually does that so she’s awesome and works hard! And so true about she’s like a news channel 😄
She's so narcissistic, it's unreal to me! I STILL get surprised when seeing this type of behavior, sadly, it's common lately (thanks social media)! I think she's guilty AF, the knife throwing story is BS, if he was 'standing 10ft away', then he's not a threat is he? In another part of this, she even admits, 'I don't know if it was justified'! OMG, REALLY! Thanks for covering this Annie, you rock!
So GUILTY!
And ur abuser is not gonna let you use your phone during an attack. Her phone record is all the proof I need
@@wendilafever7357 Good point 👍
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Yes, I think it’s normal. She showing genuine shock and denial. Yes, she is a narcissist, so I think she thought everything would be ok for her. I guarantee you this was a huge wake up call for her and her months in jail will be very difficult for someone like her. I hope she learns from this and I give all my condolences and prayers to Christians family.
I’m no Courtney fan, but I actually think her reaction to his death is legit
Same.. she is in shock and don't know what to think or say or do... now she definitely is guilty but I think it was out of emotion rather than a plan of I'm gonna do this today...
Yes I thoroughly 1000 percent believe her reaction is natural n to be believed She's remorseful Did not intend to murder him whtsoever
One thing I noticed was that the entire time she was sitting in the room with the 2 male detectives she left her robe open to show her bra/breasts but when the woman came into the room to tell her that someone would be in to photograph her then she closes her robe. 🙄
Noticed that too
Lol
That's what she does for a living!
It's really sad to me that the person who killed him asked whether his family had been notified, but the police never bothered. That's a hell of a thing.
They were more concerned about her!
Wait how did his family find out then?
@@Missjraexo when the hospital called about donating his organs
@@briannicapowell9135 What a way to find out, that’s heartbreaking. I hope they get the justice they’re fighting for.
The police do not have to give her info.
So glad you publicly addressed this. The interrogators definitely knew what she was asking for and they played on her ignorance to her rights. Did they even read her rights?
Did you even watch the interrogation?!
In order for Miranda warning to be issued, it has to meet three prongs:
1) they’re being questioned by police (met)
2) they have to be in custody (not met. Remember after this footage she was at the hotel drinking with her dad and in Hawaii or wherever she was)
3) the substance of the questions has to be designed to elicit criminal implication/to gain incriminating evidence (met)
I didn’t take notice of if they read her her rights or not, but either way I don’t think it was required bc she wasn’t being arrested.
@@emmyjulianne6850 she has to think shes in custody not actually be in custody.
@@michelledaniels9887 lol. that’s not how any law works.
Yea shitty on the police for how they handled this, it might get thrown out because of it
her whole confession can be thrown out cuz she clearly wanted her dad to call the lawyer
I’ve been in severe shock once in my life and I’m certain her reaction is genuine
I feel like she wants to call her mom and dad because… they’ve tolerated this BS , her routines before . Tolerating can lead to enabling 🙏🏻
No. It’s natural. Surely lots of people do the same especially in a legal situation like this. I understand what she did is wrong but people are making comments about normal stuff that anyone would do. It’s normal to get a lawyer and ask your parents for some help. If she didn’t do that she’d really be stupid.
I agree!
@@chelly2468 in normal circumstances yes, but for a sociopath to get THIS far in life, takes some compliance . She has been enabled.
omg i totally agree they told her she could have an atty but when she asked they talked her out of it....they were wrong
It honestly seems like a genuine reaction when she finds out
Aaah she must be innocent then and we all must feel sorry for her ,she's such a hero
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew not saying that either
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew That is not what that comment said at all and you know it lol …
You can say a reaction is genuine while still knowing they need to be held accountable for their actions. You can sit and say that you believe she really did start panicking while still finding her guilty as shit.
The world isn’t as black and white as so many of you are desperate to think. Humans are complicated beings with a wide range of emotions. If you watch enough true crime, you should at the very least know that much. In no way shape or form is anyone saying that because her reaction seems genuine that she must be innocent and set free. jfc what a gigantic leap lol
@@TwoBs thank you!!!!
One thing I've learned about myself from watching all of these cases is that I'm terrible at spotting liars.
Lol I always feel like nobody can do anything right when ppl watch these videos. They absolutely criticize every little thing that do. Damned if they do, dammed if they don't.
In my opinion she did ask for a lawyer this interrogation should be inadmissible in a court of law again how police get away with tricking people and lying to them
She asked to speak to her dad who isn't a lawyer, but she wanted to speak to her dad about whether she should hire a lawyer....not the technically the same thing, but cops possibly should have exercised caution.
unfortunately, i agree.
i think it's clear she wanted to consult a lawyer prior to speaking to police or waiving her rights.
It definitely rides a line for sure. But cops are also allowed to lie when interrogating.
I think she's so used to being able to flip out with every whim of emotion that she's trying to contain herself and it's taking all she's got.
I agree.
1000% ! I totally agree. She’s obviously gotten away with so much in her life to this point
i'm so glad you covered this! her interview was so awkward esp when she said " can I have a hug? am I allowed to do that" or how ever she said it..
I’m new to this case and this is the first video I’ve seen about it, but her reaction to hearing about a loved ones passing, just using it as a phrase, is actually a very similar way that I reacted when I learned somebody I really loved passed away. I guess I’m just weird and react in weird ways when I am this stressed out, but I have a very odd nervous system and even excitement makes me do weird shit and feel like it’s stress
Same !
As a person with borderline, i can totally see this reaction being real. She was feeling a spectrum of things and going through everything that has just changed for her. She never thought this would actually happen. I hope they get justice for him. Nobody deserves to be abused. Check in with the men in your life. Pay attention to signs of abuse. Maybe we can prevent more senseless loss at the hands of monsters.
BPD here, too, and that reaction felt completely sincere to me as well, to a point where I kept thinking I would have probably behaved the exact same way.
@peanutforever2191 definitely. The need for a hug and everything. It's frustrating to me that people don't understand how borderline or cluster b people actually feel and what is going on in our heads. There's so much to us. Not all of us are murders and monsters.
Also someone with bpd here and I can see right through the bullshit... her feelings are valid but for all the wrong reasons... we know this ladies xoxo
BPD here too. She lied and said she threw the knife when she clearly stabbed him up close! She knew what she had done. I think you’re going easy on her because she’s a white girl who killed a black man. Whether she had a moment of splitting or not she knows what she did so it shouldn’t have been a reason to be shocked. She killed someone regardless and deserves to be in jail. That’s what happens when you take someone from their family and off this earth.
@@YanahKapri I'm going easy on her by giving my opinion on her reaction? Okay...🙄
Her reaction when she finds out he died is text book shock ..... not an act or anything. Everyone reacts differently but that is shock. If the video stayed on her 24hrs you'd see a multitude of emotions to fit with the scenario.
I agree. I have been through a few situations where I have been in shock in my life and that is exactly how I reacted. It is like you are watching your life from the outside looking in and its a slow motion video. You just can't even process what you have just received for information.
Agree. I reacted similarly when my mom told me my dad died unexpectedly. I actually laughed and said “you’re joking. stop joking, that’s not funny.” Def not something any parent would joke about. The world around me felt like it had stopped, like time froze and stood still. Shock is a bizarre experience.
@@ashleyltm it is horrible. So sorry to hear you lost your dad. My reaction was very similar to yours, the human brain does strange things to protect us
@@rhiannonwalker3047 it is bizarre how we react and it seems off to others who haven't been there. My daughter laughs and then cries uncontrollably because that's her coping mechanism then when that subsides she's a wreck. Horrible to watch someone in shock, wouldn't wish that on anyone
People just have it out for her though... and are being super judgemental and nasty even though they don't know the whole story
When she gets the news, I think a lot of her reaction is real. The extreme gestures of shock and disbelief are real but they’re related to the realization that she’s got a murder charge on her hands now.
Yep. NOT because she's sorry.
Thank you for clearing up the part about the lawyer I was wondering the same thing ..
Her tears are not about the victim; they're about her consequences.
AE- i love all of your videos!! i just wanted to let you know that it was really difficult to hear your commentary while having the video still playing. i had to relisten to several parts because it was a jumbled mess. i just wanted you to know how it dane across.
thank you for all you do. ❤️
I agree, I struggled to listen to certain parts of it.
I do agree. I usually have subtitles going but for some reason I didn’t this time and can not fully understand her.
Sorry about that! I’m not used to screen sharing lol. I’ll make sure to fix it going forward.
histrionic personality disorder is a hell of a thing. not quite narcissistic, not quite borderline. completely flies under the radar of most men.
Or "thinking your a girl wen u were born a man" disorder.
armchair diagnoses don't help things
It's usually comorbid with both you mentioned
@@bitchlasagna1 I'm quite sure I read somewhere her mental evaluation indicated histrionic personality disorder. I'll have to see if I can find it.
And women