Steven Lawson: Total Depravity
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- The reason why Christian ethics are needed in our day is because man is totally depraved. Though man knows what is right, he insists on what is wrong and even suppresses the truth (Rom. 1:18). In this message, Dr. Steven Lawson considers the sinfulness of humanity and identifies our only hope for righteousness in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. It is only in being redeemed that we can understand the true foundation of ethics.
This message is from Upholding Christian Ethics, our 2022 National Conference: • Upholding Christian Et...
we cannot appreciate the Good news without the Bad news.. 🙏
Amen
No one can preach it like Pastor Lawson!
Jesus Christ can.
>> On Calvin...
Calvin was not "simply a teacher;" he was a heretic, vicious murderer (unless you approve of burning innocent people alive at the stake for disagreeing with you, and beheading a girl for striking her father), a well documented dictator that would have put Stalin in the category of a boy scout, arrived at his so called "Calvinism" from the catholic church, etc. My opinion concerning Calvin is well based on historical facts.
More fact...
Calvin did not originate "Calvinism," Calvin stole the concept from Augustine; (Augustine of Hippo, also known as Saint Augustine, was a theologian and philosopher of Berber origin and the bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia, Roman North Africa.)
Augustinian Calvinism is a term used to emphasize the origin of John Calvin's theology within Augustine of Hippo's theology over a thousand years earlier. By his own admission, John Calvin's theology was deeply influenced by the Catholic church and Augustine of Hippo, the fourth-century church father.
Calvin simply plagiarized Augustine's ideas and quoted Augustine over 400 times in his (Calvin's) writings. At it's core, so called "Calvinism" is nothing but a false doctrine of the Catholic church. Spurgeon in his time, Calvin and Calvinists today are merely teaching a false doctrine of the Vatican Roman "catholic" cult.
Augustine believed God's predestination was based on God's foreknowledge of every individual's merits, whether in their current life or a previous life. ... Prior to 396, Augustine believed that predestination was based on God's foreknowledge of whether individuals would believe, that God's grace was "a reward for human assent".
You Calvinists, whether you know it or not, are merely spreading a Roman Catholic heresy. You might want to think about that.
@@anthonytodd5841 hello brother, what is your point of writing this comment? ☺️
@@anthonytodd5841 Anthony, it would be great if you could post some book references for those of us that have similar concerns about Calvin. I appreciate reformed theology, but things like the death of Michael Servetus distance me from Calvin. Thanks!
@@lonmayer130
Check out Dave Hunt's book; "What Love is This?" Also, do a TH-cam search for the same title. Hope that helps!
@@found_sheep Posting the truth, exposing the false and foolish doctrines of Calvinism and those who teach them.
His preaching is spot on and incredibly clear. May God continue to bless his ministry
Amen....Praise and Glory to God....He saved a wretch like me....📜💕🌷
No he chose you for destruction. Easy message to accept. And enjoy
This is the most powerful message on human depravity I have ever heard.
I love preaching like this,it causes me to continue to look to Jesus,to strive to live an obedient life onto God.Thank you Pastor for allowing the lord to use you🙏🏿
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You can never fully obey life until God, it’s impossible that’s why we’re totally depraved.
Being reminded of my sin and the death I once walked in, also reminds me to give all honor and glory to God thank you Pastor Lawson🙏
That's great but we never rid it until we do die and meet the One who lived that righteous life.
One of my favorite preachers. Praise God for His Divine Word!
Christians need to hear this amazing Gospel message every day, to be reminded of where we came from! Beautifully taught.
Dear Pastor this is a sermon that I will never forget Praise that there are still Pastor wh0 are brave enough to teach enough the Truth. May God truly bless your teaching and preaching to a world that is in dire need of such messages. God Bless you PAstor Steven
Just love Steve Lawson and his preaching ❤
Wao! The backdrop of total depravity makes me fall to my knees at the cross. Thank you Jesus 🙏🏾 - God bless you Dr. Lawson, such a wonderful teacher. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Amen 🙏🏼
Me too, I’m so grateful and humbled by such love. Our God is a God of love it’s true but He’s also a God of justice and Jesus felt the full weight of the Father’s wrath that we deserved.
Human beings are not totally depraved. Go read what Jesus said about Nathaniel.
@@anthonytodd5841 In Jeremiah 17:9 we read The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
What chapter and verse about Nathanial? Would like to look it up. Thanks 🙏
@@gracepilditch9388 Jeremiah 17:9 must be understood in the light of the whole council of God. As noted; go read what JESUS said about Nathaniel. Nathaniel was NOT totally depraved. You are, as Lawson is, taking scripture out of context of the whole council of God, the Bible as a whole.
Thank you Dr. Lawson for reminding us of God's glorious holiness. How desperately we need Christ and, moment by moment, his atoning sacrifice for our redemption.
First time listening to this man of God, and I will subscribe and listen to learn every chance I get.
He is awesome so is Voddie Baucham Jr i strongly encourage you to look him up also. His revelation series is amazing.
Thank you Lord for Ligonier ministry. Thank you Lord for Pst. Steven Lawson.👐🙌
I am indeed blessed!
I haven’t heard such a hard message in years, everything he said is absolutely truth! We are guilty of abominations.Thanks be to God for he sent Jesus into the world to give us hope! To give us life! To give us forgiveness!
"God is not a stoic sovereign" says Lawson. 👍
One of my favorite contemporary pastors/theologians.
What a great message!!! Amen!!! I thank God for saving me. I am totally unworthy but He is gracious.
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
John 3:36✝️
Amen Preacher
Total depravity
We have nothing and we are in serious debt
Thank you Jesus for the Cross
Where you died for our sins and paid the debt we could not pay
Well as god chose Russia from the beginning of the world, don’t matter where you walk, don’t matter what you believe, nor does it matter that you believe that Jesus is the son of god. You’re still going to hell. He hated you before you were born and nothing can change that .
@@madcow9421 No pope, preacher, priest (all sinners) can draw us to the Son. Only a God who *chooses* to have mercy on us can convict us, with His gift of faith to believe. It is His choice--not mine. I am dead in sin. I have no say. But His mercy is supreme.
Praise God for this kind of preacher'd, his kind is seldom in our day's 🕊️📖🔨⚓
Thank you Dr. Lawson for your excellent exposition. So thankful for your ministry
Wow! Thank you Lord for Dr Lawson, your vessel of honour to make known, through the Holy Spirit, the truths of our God about our collective, our universal depravity!
A Great man of God
Great message, wonderfully delivered.
Wow. Great truths exposited in this sermon.
Thank God for this man. Great sermon!
GLORY TO GOD!!!!
Amen! Now this is a BIBLICALLY SOUND message. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
He is an amazing teacher ❤️
Amen thank you Lord Jesus for saving us from our sins
One of the most important things to know and keep in mind throughout our life on earth. I love Steve
Wow that’s packed!
wow, how come I never heard of this pastor before?! He speaks guided by the Spirit, opened my eyes, and answered some questions was wrestling with for months.
Wait til you get to his sermons which convict!
He just loves the Bible! He only talks about the Bible!
@@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975 where can I find his sermons?
@@angelaaltland4739 Just look up his name on TH-cam. He is truly blessed and in return we are as well. Enjoy!
@@angelaaltland4739 yup TH-cam, he does a lot of Sprouls Ligonier conferences and series.
That’s a real preacher! Tell it like it is.
Powerful sermon, thanks for posting. GK Chesterton famously held that original sin is empirically verifiable. More and more I get the impression that the same is true of total depravity.
Thanks allot!
Amen, and AMEN!
Great preaching!
Amazing grace!
So in love with the doctrines of Grace and the Westminster confession of faith! I adore them so so much.
The Best sermon I've ever heard!!!!
49:25 But there is no good news until you know what the bad news is. The Lord has made you a great mouthpiece for the church. God bless Steven Lawson!!
Wow that was power 🙏🙏🙏
Glory to God🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Yes! The Holiness of God
Sometimes I wonder what it was like before sin entered through Adam. To know perfect peace and love. It must have been awesome. Satan really hates truth.
This to me was by far the most impressive message of the week when I was there. Then again I’m bias bc I love talking about that topic but it was by far the greatest total depravity sermon I’ve heard ever. Even better than Paul washer and John MacArthur sermons on it. It was terrific
Brilliant
Powerful!!❤ 🙏
Powerful 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Very profound
I have the best Lawson story .when I was first saved God showed me so much love I was melting .I WENT TO HEAR THE WORD AND LAWSON WAS THEIR I SAID HI IN THE FIRST SERVICE AND HE COULD TELL I WAS A FANBOY HE ASKED IF I I WAS COMING BACK FOR THE EVENING FOR THE GREAT WHITE THROWN SERMON AND I DID .I tried saying hi again but he saw me made me wait till the end and when he saw me he says what do u need son u just saying hi again lolllllll..I was a babe in Christ and found out so quick not to idolize the preacher ..THIS GUY LIves it God is Jesus loll yes lord
Amen!
Best pure preacher today. Period.
Amen.
'ALL we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL. (Isaiah 53:6, KJV) Salvation is available for ALL. 'For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and BELIEVES in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:40, NASB)
So true..that many are ignoring or don't care
Only God saved me.
From what
Good job 👍
Amen
AMEN.
PTL!
When speaking of total depravity, it is always important for me to remember that it is a moral category, not an ontological one. Humanity is good being made in the image of God (ontic) but fallen in the moral sense (total depravity).
@@jakeallen1553 I did. I think there is a category error.
@@kylekloostra5659 you are a category error of self righteousness hahahahhaa
Humanity is fallen and enslaved.
The first man was innocent at creation and in the eyes of God, "very good". He was never born.
You were born after that so you are continually inclined toward evil.
"In sin did my mother conceive me."
Prett6 straightforward..
@@iacoponefurio1915 Thanks for the response.
Genuine question: Are you familiar with the word “ontological?” and what is being referenced when that word is being used?
This will help me respond in a productive way to your comment. Thanks for taking the time.
@@kylekloostra5659 The Bible plainly states that no man is good no not one!
@@artifacthunter1472 That doesn't mean that everyone is literally evil.
Morally unaligned, certainly. But no person on this world is wholeheartedly good or evil.
Amazing Grace well preached Sir
When a newpaper editor ask "what is wrong with the world" G. K. Chesterton (not exactly Reformed) wrote a letter: "I am, sincerely yours G. K. Chesterton".
"The Christian life has not been tried and found wanting, but has been found difficult and left untried. "
GK the greatest catholic since Augustine
The Good News: the Father can circumcise our wicked and deceitful hearts AND the hearts of our offspring. Only He, with His gift of redeeming faith, can draw us to His Son for salvation.
Imagine you live in a world where God wants all men to be saved and you lived in such a way.
The diamond “literally” exploded before my eyes 😂
Dr lawson, sin is not inputed to the Child due to the parents sin.
*Deuteronomy 24:16 (NIV): "Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin." This verse emphasizes personal responsibility for sin, suggesting that individuals are not held accountable for the sins of their parents or ancestors*
Which church in Surprise, AZ, was this Godly message preached. I need to tell my brother about this church, his own town, so he can truly hear the word of God. Thank you.
Autonomy
Obedience
Exclusivity -
Rebellion
Disobedience
Rejection
Isaiah 45: 7 __ "I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and "Create Evil" [I Created the Devil, and I Created Adam] I the Lord do all these things."
You're not wrong though. I agree with the connection you draw. The Lord certainly did ORDAIN the events that took place when he created Lucifer, knowing that he would fall.
Does calamity come upon a city and I do not cause it?
This is true of everyone who has ever lived. Mankind is insane because of sin
Yessir
Narcissists
Well.excpet One haha
Reformed doctrines are the most dependable and 100% correct.
It’s not called reformed doctrine it’s called biblical defined doctrine!
Yes, if you misapply passages.
Nobody proves total depravity more than Steve the stud.
This message is what the Bible preaches and if you don’t understand it you are spiritually dead because God hardened your heart so you cannot understand it and blinded your eyes so you cannot see it!
Beautiful church. Where is it?
First Baptist Church, Orlando, FL
I'm going to die because I haven't dug deep in my heart.
If you can still say that and believe on Jesus's name, you aren't lost. Keep praying and don't give up.
@@ToBeAnnounced2024 it feels like I'm trying to earn God's mercy
@@kokoro.theheart you're going to die because you are a sinner born to sinners in a cursed land.
The promise of Jesus is Resurrection from the dead to eternal life.
@@iacoponefurio1915 I don't think I can repent anymore
excellent video. now listen to r.c. sproul's "all christians believe in predestination" giving heed to what is the problem in believing in semi-pelagism or prescience.
They can't have a depraved mind because the Lord asks him if he doesn't want to be accepted
Paul said in his flesh dwelt no good thing. Yet in his mind he wanted to serve the Lord. The context is his life under the Mosaic Law (see logical flow of Romans 7). So man is not totally depraved. He just is drawn to sin and the Law makes it worse.
I love the fact that Paul cites to two psalms in Romans 3 which TULIPs depend upon to support total depravity. If David wrote the psalms, he is seeking God and he is thereby necessarly excluded from the statement as he is actually and really seeking God and we have written proof of the same. So Paul is using a generalist and not a grounds for proof text. Here is another: Proverb 30:2 Oh by the way, I believe TULIP should stand for The Uppity Lilliputians Of Protestantism.
The Church Fathers who were closely connected to the Apostles who wrote much of the Scripture in question, spoke out in DEFENSE of free will and against total depravity/inability.
St. Gregory of Nyssa - "For He who holds sovereignty over the universe permitted something to be subject to our own control, over which each of us alone is master. Now this is the
will: a thing that cannot be enslaved, being the power of self-determination."
(Gregory of Nyssa, The Great Catechism, MPG 47, 77A; in Gabriel 2000:27).
Ignatius of Antioch - "Seeing, then, all things have an end, and there is set before us life upon our observance [of God’s precepts], but death as the result of disobedience, and every one, according to the choice he makes, shall go to his own place, let us flee from death, and make choice of life. For I remark, that two different characters are found among men - the one true coin, the other spurious. The truly devout man is the right kind of coin, stamped by God Himself. The ungodly man, again, is false coin, unlawful, spurious, counterfeit, wrought not by God, but by the devil. I do not mean to say that there are two different human natures, but that there is one humanity, sometimes belonging to God, and sometimes to the devil. If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice. (Letter to the Magnesians - long version, Chapter 5; ANF Vol. I p. 61; emphasis added.)
Justin Martyr - "For the coming into being at first was not in our own power; and in order that we may follow those things which please Him, choosing them by means of the rational faculties He has Himself endowed us with, He both persuades us and leads us to faith (First Apology 10; ANF Vol. I, p. 165; emphasis added).
Athenagorus- Just as with men, who have freedom of choice as to both virtue and vice (for you would not either honour the good or punish the bad, unless vice and virtue were in their own power . . . . (Athenagoras’ Plea 24, ANF Vol. II p. 142; emphasis added).
Ireneaus of Lyon (closely connected to the Apostle John) "Now all such expressions demonstrate that man is in his own power with respect to faith" (Against Heresies 4.37.2; ANF Vol. I, p. 520).
Athanasius -Wherefore virtue hath need at our hands of willingness alone, since it is in us and is formed from us (NPNF Vol. IV p. 201).
Methodius - Now those who decide that man is not possessed of free-will and affirm that he is governed by the unavoidable necessities of fate, and her unwritten commands, are guilty of impiety towards God Himself, making Him out to be the cause and author of human evils (Chapter 16, ANF Vol. VI p. 342; emphasis added).
St. John Chrysostom - Having thus enlarged upon the love of God which, not content with showing mercy to a blasphemer and persecutor, conferred upon him other blessings in abundance, he has guarded against that error of the unbelievers which takes away free will, by adding, “with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.” (NPNF First Series Vol. XIII p. 418)
St. John of the Ladder - Of the rational beings created by Him and honoured with the dignity of free-will, some are His friends, others are His true servants, some are worthless, some are completely estranged from God, and others, though feeble creatures, are His opponents (Step 1.1; emphasis added).
John Calvin himself was more than aware of the fact that the early church disagreed with his teachings on free will. In the Institutes he wrote, "Further, even though the Greeks above the rest-and Chrysostom especially among them-extol the ability of the human will, yet all the ancients, save Augustine, so differ, waver, or speak confusedly on this subject, that almost nothing certain can be derived from their writings." If your teachings do not stem from what was passed down by the Apostles to the early church and the martyrs for the faith, then you are not teaching the faith of the Apostolic authors.
@@HaroldZwingley Maybe it was just to make the point that Augustine came up with his own ideas later on.
Amen 🙏🏼
The Book of Roman’s is my Fav book in the Bible and my Fav verse of all is Romans 8:28
Even though it’s so hard to even pick a favorite book because they’re all so great but yes Romans is my Fav
If we were born unable to understand the gospel:
So why does "the god of this age" need to blind us? are we not already blind from birth? [20:40]
How can sin make us fools if we are already dead? [32:08]
Why is God going to say that it is "moral insanity" to sin against him, to someone who never has the capacity to hear him, because he is already dead from birth? [32:18]
In this comparison of Isaiah, is it the same to say that we are completely sick as to say that we are spiritually dead? [32:55] Normally a Calvinist says that we are not sick, but dead. We don't need a "cure" but a "resurrection".
All These arguments mentioned by Pastor Lawson, unintentionally, seem to be based on the fact that man can hear and understand the gospel. Because he can sees and can understands the god of this age has blinds him, because he can understand God tells him that sin makes him a fool. Because he can understands, God tells him that what he does is morally insane. Because he can understand Jesus uses parables "so that hearing they may not understand, and seeing they may not see". Because he can understands God tells him to "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as woo"
Please understand me, I do not deny that man is unable to approach God by himself. But I do not believe that the word teaches the impossibility of man to respond positively to God's call.
That is why God holds us accountable and tells him that he "has no excuses" and that is why Jesus says "He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God"
That is very interesting
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God
The Good News of the Gospel is this: That God would save any at all, but because of the Mercy of God, because of the Grace of God, God saves some, and He is Just in His punishment of Sin. God's ways are not my ways, and His ways are not my ways. Read the Book of Job. God does what God wants to do, all for His Glory.
A child can understand parts of the bible. But Satan wants to keep us from the truth of Scripture, Christ! This is what Satan wants to blind them from! All are commanded to repent and believe! Yet, how can they choose Christ, without having a regenerate heart? Many, choose sin over the truth! No one will be without excuse on judgement day!
You must really be a wackjob
You claim that mankind is blinded so that proves mankind is not blinded.
Hahahabahahhaa wow what a space cadet
If everyone is declared guilty of sin, through the rebellion of Adam, from conception and on, then a new born baby is also guilty and on the way to hell unless God saves them. There is only one way to get to heaven, and that is through the saving grace of Jesus.
hello daniel...youtube soteriology 101 born guilty...very interesting
I don’t think he said everybody is guilty because Adam sinned.
I agree with the TULIP acronym, I disagree with the hyper Calvinism.
Calvinists don't agree with hyper Calvinism.
Do we really inherit the guilt of Adam's sin, or only the sin nature? We're not guilty of anything until we ourselves sin. Maybe splitting hairs. Other than that one point, very good.
I too don’t see the Scriptures teaching that we are inheriting Adam’s guilt and condemnation (in the sense of eternal and final judgment that God will carry out unto everyone based on their own actions). God does not punish children for the sins of their parents. God will punish sinners for their personal sins. Also, Lawson is making it sound as if all humans are depraved to the maximum potential degree, which is also not found in the Bible. Instead of focusing on that he could’ve emphasized more significantly our inability and unwillingness to pursue God.
Sadly, this sermon overall sounds like a copy-pasted template from a textbook on reformed theology where his goal is to present reformed view rather than Biblical.
God cannot make a mistake.
God creates man with free will.
Man is totally depraved.
Why would God do this?
Haha strawman jones you believed the lie of free will.
If the SON OF MAN shall set someone free, they will be free indeed!
In the sense that Calvinism claims, human beings are not totally depraved.
Human are depraved apart from Christ
Your argument is not against a man named Calvin. Your argument is against a holy and just God. Repent and believe the gospel.
@@catsmeow669
You are wrong, Jesus said of Nathaniel that he was a man WITH NO GUILE (NO deceit) IN HIM. According to Jesus Christ, Nathaniel was not "totally depraved." Lawson is teaching blatant Calvinist false doctrine.
John 1:47 -
"Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!"
@@catsmeow669 Sorry, Calvinism is not the Gospel. It's nothing more than false catholic doctrine. If I were you I would study the well known history of Calvinism. Apparently you have not done so.
@@catsmeow669 Your argument is against the Word of God and is based on nonsense and Calvinist false doctrine.
20:20
I understand the doctrine of total depravity but my question is, what about babies? Obviously, they're born without the ability to understand their own depravity but that doesn't negate their depravity. Since they lack the capacity to understand their fallen nature and their need for salvation, does that mean they go directly to heaven despite their depravity? What is the means of their salvation?
What did Jesus say about children or babies? Who enters heaven?
@@squaretrianglez That's a great point. Thanks.
*Then some children were brought to Him so that He might lay His hands on them and pray; and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, “Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”*
_Matthew 19:13-14_
@@squaretrianglez only the sheep, so as they are viper (Voddie bachaun). They go to hell. Keep it real. Keep it consistent
No one. No one no one. .rc sproul. All those little black babies in Africa. Fryin in hell, you can hear their weeping and bashing of teeth can’t you. That’s the answer. Rc sproul gives you. Steve Lawson gives you. No EXCUSES. Not even babies
Election ... that is, God's Sovereign choice before the world 🌎 began.
Your introductory remarks. 🤣😂
Just wondering: If man was punished with death, why wasn't Satan and his Angels punished with death? I apologie as it's just a whims
Troll. 🤣
Ezekiel 18:20 (author: Ezekiel)
2 Kings 14:6 (author: Jeremiah)
Romans (author: Paul)
Paul's doctrine in Romans is incoherent with that of Ezekiel and Jeremiah, who were both Prophets of God and thus appointed by God to give his message and instructions to his people.
Keep in mind that Paul was not a disciple of Jesus and only claimed that Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus long after Jesus went away.
Also, the current composition choice of books that we call the Bible was a result of a political event called the Council of Nicaea and was overseen by a heathen (relative to the Biblical doctrine) by the name of Constantinople.
🚨🔥🐍🔥🚨 Revelation 19:10. King James Version
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the
🗣🌐 *testimony of Jesus:*
🔥🐍🔥 *worship God:* 🔥🐍🔥
for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
It is worth observing that Paul is not preaching total depravity in Romans 3. If he is, where? He uses the hyperbole in the Psalm to point out that all have sinned, all are sinners. That is the point, right? Where is his point in Romans 3 to show total depravity and that man must be regenerated before believing?
No fear of God! Bottom line…
can someone in the reformed camp explain the difference between total depravity and being handed over to a reprobate mind in romans 1 :28
Everyone is born with a sin nature. This is to say that we all have a seed of sin in us. When the seed germinates, it will bring forth the fruits of that sin. We are separated from God through that sin.
God gives a person the chance to receive the truth and to turn from their sins and live for Him. If they refuse the truth and love their sins more than the truth, then they reject the plea from God. When they make this choice, then God can turn them over to their desire that they have chosen. They go on to indulge themselves in the sins that they have chosen. They are then reprobate. He appealed to them, but they refused to listen.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
@@adddaniel2479 that is the Arminian view, in Calvinism you have no choice, you must be dragged in
Being handed over happens when we refuse to repent and we treat sin as ok.
Everyone is totally depraved. Man's will takes him there. Those Paul wrote about were handed over to their idol of sin, in that case homosexuality.
Not really complicated..
@@iacoponefurio1915 your not in the calvanistic reformed camp