How to build a dawless synth and sampler live performance setup you can use for live shows V2!
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- This is my 2nd incarnation o a daw-less live performance setup. After a year of experimenting with my first rave box, it had limitations I needed to address. I am now really happy with this next incarnation and I intend to use it to develop a awsome live show and release at least one album before I change it again!
Wow. And I am just getting started. I have a tr-8s, hydrasynth explorer arrived yesterday. Dreadbox typhon on the way. The Roland S-1 seems to work well and sound good. I also have a collection of volcas that I am not too crazy about.
NIce! sounds like you have enough going on there for a great setup!
Nice set up! Now I want to put all of my gear in a flightcase.
You should! But watch out for the weight creeping up!
This setup is amazing! Thx 4 sharing the great Video! 👍
Thanks very much.
@@Wildb0y You're very welcome! I've done a lot of Dawless stuff 2 on Novation Circuit Tracks and Rhythm. If you feel like, I would be glad if you risk a look at my channel, too. Beats and greetz from Germany! 🇩🇪🎧😉
Amazing setup & awesome jam! Thanks for sharing. GREAT job on all vectors!
Thanks for the kind words Luis
I really enjoyed that. Have been learning my dawless setup for a while and have just started to develop a process that is seaming to work. Thanks for this vid has had a very positive impact
Ahh that great to hear. Thanks for the message. Good luck with you endeavours. I will look forward to hearing what you do. Feel free to ask any questions etc happy to help where I can
Really cool setup, and it sounds great! I’m finally finishing up my tiny portable dawless / cover band keys setup and I love seeing others! I think a lot of us have spent the pandemic really refining our live works, I’m pumped for when we can all really get back out there again! Going to be a great renaissance!
Awesome! Thank you! Yes the renaissance is a coming!
That’s a pretty great setup and inspiring to someone how’s working on their like myself. I’m currently trying to work on cabling because I’m probably be playing mostly at restaurant/bar places trying for a low fi thing with horns. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Robert. Im glad my ideas are inspiring you. Its all about the easy setup and pack down so you don't have to stress and helps keep you focus on the important stuff! Good luck with your venture, I wold love to hear what your up to as some-point.
That’s a nice rig. I’m about to transition my set up (currently on a modified 3-tier synth rack) to a big enough travel case and you just gave me some ideas. Thank you n
awesome. If you are on InstaG, you can check out what i'm up to now for more inspiration, as I have a new rig with a different case. @wildb0yofficial
I really like your setup and overview of everything you use. I'm thinking of going dawless in regards to a recording standpoint. I like recording om my computer using different software, but I want to gain more independence from having a dawless setup. I'm a bit on the older side, and back in the day (80s to early 90s) even when MIDI was "new", everything was mainly done without automation and in real time. And recording from home was done via 4 tracks and also more.. towards reel to reel if you had the money. Good luck to you as you go forward with your music.
Hi Mr.Tom, thanks for listening. Yes the good old days before a computer! I was lucky enough to have an early Atari at school for midi sequencing! Good luck with your endeavours, please do get in touch if you have any questions incase I can help in any way. You can read me on email if you go to my website incase I don't always se comments in the you tube section, it seemed to have a issue which hopefully has been resolved, apologies for the late response.
Mate this is absolutely amazing, very smart how you've put everything into a flight case, once I experiment more with my live setup and bring it down to the bare minimum I'll definitely be exploring with getting a case like yours + the modular! Might hit you up for tips when the time comes :)
For the next setup have you thought about having 2 cases instead of 1 really big one? Might be better for transportation at the price of having to connect a few cables between them. I saw some really smart people just put the I/Os directly into the back of the case, looks really neat!
Subscribed and excited to see what you come up with next!
Hey Goose, thanks for the message. yes wow, 2 cases is a good idea, I wonder how much more that might cost?! Well certainly for the first 2/3 albums worth of work im going to stick to this setup now. NO CHANGING! Yes, please doit me up with any questions at any time, more than happy to help.
Great video! Also a massive Audio Kitchen fan.
Thansk dusty, kind of you to say.
Been reworking my dateless setup over the last few years and love your choices of gear… I use a pyramid as a brain too. Used to be the Digitone but now it’s a slave brain. :)
Very cool, would like to hear some of it some time
Incredible work over the last year... loving the new rig and sounds coming from it, guess that lockdown worked out okay for you! :-)
It has certainly given some focus! Although, as with many people, it came with a new set of challenges!
Very nice portable setup! Building my beginner Dawless setup right now, it's so exciting! Cheers
Hi David, welcome to the channel & thanks for the comment. Good luck with your setup. I will look forward too seeing the fruits of your labour sometime.
Looking forward to see more guys.
I also start collecting for dawless settings...
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Nice jamming 👌, love it
Awesome! Thank you!
WOW awesome build!! Great set also
Thank you, kinds words. And wow you fly incredible simulation planes!! very cool!
Love your style an set up man my partner an I are dawless dark techno producers an have a live podcast dedicated to underground music I love finding ppl out here doing g the same thing analog kitchen brought me your way keep it up brother an if your ever down for a collab lmk 🤙🤘
Hi max, just catching up on messages! Thanks for the comment. Prehaps on day we will rock a venue together!
Great . Thanks for sharing. Peace
Cool, Thanks for the comment Marco. Hope it is of some help.
I believe you mean analog kitchen
whoops, yes thank you. Thats who I mean!
It's Analog kitchen. ;)
Woops! Thanks for th heads up. Apologies Analog Kitchen!
top!!!!! congrats!!!
Thanks Dude. Love your video too, very cool.
Love your setup! Do you have any more information on the audio kitchen mixer?
Thanks dude.
No sorry I don't.
Dope setup!!!!! Does the case close with everything in it? or do you remove the gear from the top lid for transport?
Thanks dudeX It’s all stuck in with super strong Velcro. It closes with about a cm gap between the sliders/nobs for the machines on opposite sides.
the mixer can tackle the compressor and limiter functions as well by tracks and also on the master ch?
The compressor and limiter are only on the stereo out not on individual channels. The mastering section is subtle and has a bunch of determined settings, you can switch through them and hear the difference they are making.
super dope!! I need that flight case where can I find one? what are the dimensions my setup is about the same size and having it moble like that would be a DREAM
Hi tye, so after settling with my setup I layed out the machines how I wanted them on a mock up wooden frame then messured up and got a case made of my own design.
Just wondering what the case you used here and in your last one was? They look like the perfect depth!
Hi, the case in the video was made specifically for this setup. So I laid all the equipment out how I wanted it, made a bit of room for cables/power and sent the design off to swan flight cases. After using this case for a year its great, but heavy and I needed to make a setup that would be easier to travel with so I have made a dramatic change to swapped out most equipment for smaller / lighter and now use a "off the shelf case" from Nanuk.
Hey, man. Great setup and jam! What flight case are you using? I want to make my dawless setup mobile but I'm having trouble working out the best way to house everything
Hi there, I designed one with swan flight case company. After settling with the gear and it’s arrangement I made a mock up and measured it. Bit of an expense but totally worth it for peace of mind and ease of cracking it out at a party or gig! I could do a quick video on the design if you like?
@@Wildb0y I would love to see a video on this is possible!
Audio kitchen or analogue kitchen?
Ha sorry, yes I meant analogue kitchen. Audio kitchen make pcb's of hardware clones, eg a SSL bus compressor.
So you just take stereo outs of the mx1 to record or are you taking a multitrack via mx1 usb to a computer?
So all the stuff your hearing and will hear is just the stereo out. Partly because that's the ethos and also the mx-1 FX do not come out on a multi track channel (which is pretty crazy it doesn't) so you would miss that part of the performance. For my single releases next year i'm going to do multi track recordings and then do the final touches / additional production in the studio, as thats where some of my skills are, and it wold be. shame not to encompass everything I do. The heart of the music is creating sounds, composing, recording into the machines then practicing live arranging of sounds and structure, along with manipulation the sounds so I can record it all in one take....thats the idea anyway!
Just to confirm - I think you mean analog kitchen, not audio kitchen at the start of your vid?
Ahh yes Steve. You are totally right! Woops! Apologies Analog Kitchen. Thank you for pointing this out!
great stuff... how did you isolate the kick drum from the tr8s and put it on ch1 of the mx1 ...????
HI Owen. oN the tr8s you have mix out, and 4 additional outputs you can assign the sounds to got to. In the KIT menu is where you can select which outputs each drum sound goes through. What I do is make the kick come out of channel 2 which I then connect via a jack to input 1 of the mx-1. The rest of the drums come out of output 4. they go though my strymon pedal for a bit of tape saturation before going into input 2 of the mx-1. hope that helps
@@Wildb0y hey... big up bro...!!! makes total sense, thank you for getting back to me so prompt... I will try it out.... loving the flight case flex too..... if I wanted to do a gig id stuff as much equipment as i could into my magma bag and leave what couldn't fit...lol... love what ya doing..
Do you use any compression? I didn’t hear you mention anything?
Hi Steve. So the strymon Decco will
very slightly compress the drums with its saturation. The blue box output has a gentle mix bus style compression going on which is mixing the sampler, synths etc together Apart from that the only compression comes from the looopstaion, some on the acoustic instrument inputs and also in its master out. The loop station has master compression in its main out which seems to have a limiting quality to it also. I have this turned in at 3%. Any more and it starts to become obvious. So all of those stages are subtle but over all help in giving the sound a bit of solidness to its sound. Most importantly is getting the levels right. You don’t need much compression for many of the sounds if you get this right.
Steve, apologies I answered this question thinking about my latest setup. In the setup you see in this video, rave box mk2 rather than 3, the only compression is the the ‘mastering’ button on the mx1 output, which is a subtle compression and limiting.
Thanks for detailed current and video setup. Sounds like you preference a transparent lighter touch? It’s not a subject that gets much airtime. I’m waiting to get a Digitakt for drums and sequencer for other hardware. That has a compressor now but was wondering if I get a more FX colouring compressor or if I’d not end up using it much. I currently use a 90’s Mackie mixer with no effects. I realise it depends on music genre and taste.
@@goesbysteve hi Steve thanks for the question. Apart from the obvious dynamic control compression can do there is also it rhythmic element, the way you set it up to groove with what ever it compressing. This timing is what can make or break using a compressor well. When it comes to the digitakt, if you are using drum samples then ultimately you don’t really need compression as you are able to control the dynamic range using velocity. But you can use compression in this situation if you want to create a certain vibe / feel. In another situation with the digitakt where you are using a vocal sample for example, then it’s quite possible, if it is not already processed, to use the compressor tame the dynamic range of the vocal along with the other sounds you have sequenced. So yes it is dependant on the genre if music you are making. But just imagine a decent studio, they don’t have limitless compressors at their disposal. You don’t need as much compression as we think we do, especially with the limitless supply daws! Hope my ramblings are helpful. :)
I have a problem running Ableton live 10 and 11 with a Roland MX-1. The program freezes at startup. I work with windows 10 (The system is installed clean). I didn't find an answer to my question on the Internet. It is necessary to disable MX-1, then Ableton live starts without problems. The drivers are fresh and reinstalled. How can I fix this problem?
P.S. Sorry for my English, I used Google Translate.
Hi Gabriel, have your latest firmware update on the mx-1? I think its version 1.05. Also depending on how you are using the mx-1 you may need to put it into mixer mode. To be honest I have had digital glitching problems with the mx-1 when trying to track all the different inputs separately. I have heard you need to turn plugin and turn on the mx-1 AFTER you have turned the computer on for some reason. The only other thing I can thing of is there is a problem with your USB port functionality. There is a chance that the mx-1 just inset working properly.
I now only use it as a mixer and then record the stereo output into my UAD interface, which is fully committing to to the mix. I then only use the computer to get the files ready for video or streaming. This work method is very liberating compared to the in-depth DAW mixing and I producing I do when working with pop artists!
@@Wildb0y I updated the firmware to version 1.05, but Ableton live still freezes. When you connect aira synthesizers directly to your computer, everything works fine. Sometimes there are small freezes when opening the audio device manager on the computer.
@@gabrielraynes1577Hmm, not sure what's going on. I guess the only real way to check its not the mx-1 that's the problem is to borrow another one and connect that, see if it does the same thing. If you have a laptop you could take it to your nearest music store and plug their display one in, see what happens?
I had the same problems with the TR-8 and the MX-1 with win 10 I decided to go back to Win 7 and everything works perfectly.