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‼️NJ’s Most Picturesque Airport ‼️with a challenging approach, referred to as “Carrier Approach”😄
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- You won't find many more picturesque (and challenging) Airports in the Northeast than Aeroflex-Andover. It's located in the Kittany State Park in northwest New Jersey about at hour and a half west of New York City. Its 1,981 Runway is located right in the middle of Lake Aeroflex and is about as close to landing on an aircraft carrier that many of us will ever get. Parked out on the grass you'll see plenty of old Tail Draggers and will probably run into Damien of "Andover Flight" who not only gave me my Tailwheel Endorsement but also trained Harrison Ford. The Airport has been featured multiple times in both FLYING Magazine as well as AOPA etc. There really is no bad time to go to Andover but if you can only go once during the year, it may pay to wait until the Fall when the leaves start to turn. I like bringing the Cub here because this is where I first really started to admire them and it's also the perfect strip and as "back country" as you can get legally in NJ (unfortunately). Anyway, take a ride with me in my J-3 to get an idea of what it's like flying into this gorgeous airport.
0:00 Into
0:35 Why Andover?
1:14 Runup Before Takeoff
3:11 First Landing at N14 (Flying W)
3:58 Discussing the Flight up at Cruise
6:22 Almost Landing on a Closed Runway
8:27 Landing on the Grass Runway at Solberg
9:57 Why I Stopped so soon for Gas
10:55 Hand Propping At Solberg
11:55 Approaching Aeroflex-Andover
14:05 Tail Mounted Approach View into 21
15:31 Beginning of pattern work on 03
I earned my private with Damian at Aeroflex about 30 yrs ago. Was there practicing deadsticks when he broke a crank on takeoff in a supercub. Never lost the love for low n slow flight. I fly a Searey off my lake near Tampa now but plan to stop by Aeroflex next summer now that I’m retired.
This is awesome! Aeroflex is not even 15 min from my house. I fly too, out of blairstown. I never been in there yet but I plan to. I wish they hung airplanes there still. Its way closer than blairstown. Thanks for sharing! Im commenting before the video even starts lol. I always get excited to see pilots on youtube flying in my neck of the woods.
Dude! You hit all the best spots. First solo when I was 16 was at Solberg. Pancakes at Blairstown, and pattern work at Andover. Love it!
Ha! I LOVE Blairstown! Pancakes are solid. You Ever go to SkyManor!? The Diner there is probably one of the best on the East Coast. It's awesome
I delivered a Husky to Aeroflex Andover last year and met Damian. Keep meaning to go back. So lovely. Great video!
I remember back in high school how you talked about becoming a pilot I'm really happy to be able to watch you live out your dreams and experienced it through watching your TH-cam channel. Keep up the great work! Protect Jersey and show the rest of the world what we all know!
Thank you!!!! Really appreciate that!!
"Take offs and landings are more fun than the cruise". Agree totally!!!! That happens when you own a cub. Loved the video thanks Joe
it's the absolute best. Got my tail wheel endorsement there years ago
Harry Sheperd kept his SF-260 there until he moved to FL, stopped by there once before going into Sussex. Both cool little airports.
I love Sussex
@@Bananasssssssss First time I went into Andover, was ferrying Jimmy Franklin's Waco to Sussex. Was there later another time to fly Harry's spare SF-260 with him and Carl Pascarell for a Budd Davisson photo shoot. Did Paul's show at Sussex once on my Great Lakes. A little better than 30 years ago! I'm glad someone is still teaching real flying.
Great video! You're right, Andover is a beauty! The water in front of Runway 21 reminds me of Hamilton Municipal Airport (KVGC) in Hamilton NY. KVGC was one of the airports I landed at for my PP solo. It has a lake in front of Runway 17. The water messes with your mind a bit when you come in.
Flown into VGC many times, love the approach to 17! Always stop and walk across the street to the pizza pub for dinner
Thank you for producing and posting. Your videos are some of the best content and production anywhere on the internet. Thanks again.
Thank you!! Very much appreciated!!
Did my first flight lesson here! John was my instructor. Miss this airport.
So much of this looks like MSFS visually. Or rather that MSFS does a good job of visually representing flight
I was lucky to fly into Andover when I was a student pilot in a 152. Really a cool experience talking with NY approach seeing all the heavies come in for 4R in EWR.
Simply stunning ❤
Your films are always informative and fun
Thank you! very much appreciated
Awesome video! Love that part of NJ most of us southerners would be really surprised by the beauty up there.
I just stopped in NJ for the first time recently on a trip from upstate NY to NC. I stopped at Bucks 00N for fuel and a break. Such a great little grass strip. The owner was awesome and gave us a little tour.
Bucks owner is a phenomenal guy!! Really what Gen. aviation needs more of
Aeroflex is the sight of my first flight, AND my first landing, in a Cub. And then I had some health issues. I’m back now!!! Got any room in your front seat??
Oooh I am in need of cool places to fly to out here in Jersey for I'm time building. Gonna add that one to the list!
Please do!
Beautiful video. Glad I found your longer form content. Growing up dad's A&P had a yellow '56 PA-18
Knew it was Andover from the opening shot. Have landed the lancair there 3 times, it's beautiful.
Lancer at Andover! that's pretty cool. Not much room for error.
@@Bananasssssssss true. It's hard enough with the 360 but I'm pretty sure there is a IV or a IV-P that has flown out of there in the past, if you can believe it.
Taught there from 91-98. Cub , Champ, Ercoupe , Etc . Great airport , Great people.
I first fell in love with Piper Cubs when I was 16 working at Sussex airport. I helped rebuild 22 Cubs that were WWII surplus and used for flight training after the war on the G.I Bill. I took flight training in the Cub. I still fly R/C models.
I love Sussex!
Was Paul Stiger at Sussex when either of you were there?
12N has been on my list for a couple years now. Hoping to stop by this year!
Beautiful Cub flight, very well done.. Appreciate your frank narrative. What a beautiful countryside! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
Yea! Blairstown and the lake nearby.
Best pancakes around!
Very beautiful airport. Did a lot of landings there during my private pilot training in 2014. The whole area is very beautiful to fly
Awesome production!
Much appreciated!
Nice. I own a 1941 J3C-65 with a C85. Love it!
I really REALLLY want a C-85 for my J3
Nice video! I'm hoping to make a trip up there tomorrow. I'm a student pilot flying a 172 out of Cross Keys (17N) and was planning to do the Hudson exclusion with my instructor today, and then make a stop at Aeroflex before heading back home. Unfortunately, he's a bit under the weather and the winds were above my personal minimums, so hoping tomorrow we can get that done. Should be a beautiful flight.
Have fun! Weather looks great (as far as winds). let me know if you ever stop at the Flying W! come check out the hangar
@@Bananasssssssss Well, the ceiling was just a touch below what we were comfortable doing this flight in. Hopefully I'll make this trip soon, we'll see. My checkride is scheduled for 2/19. I'll definitely need to stop by Flying W at some point- it seems like a really cool airport. I've overflown it, but never landed there, which seems a bit surprising considering how close it is to Cross Keys.
@@Bananasssssssss super last minute notice but I am at 1N7, heading to 12N shortly! You're not there today, are you?
Hi Joe, loved this video. Thanks for all your great videos, such good publicity for low-power taildragging! Haven’t yet been to Andover in my Champ, but it’s a must-visit of course. (Had to use the W as a divert on a warm afternoon about a month ago since, after a couple hours flying, I couldn’t get down at VAY on the first five tries (!)-carb heat plunger was stuck up/on-so resolved each time to go around at the drop of a hat. Variable 5G19 I think it was. Weird. Fueled up at the W and made it over to home as the sun set and winds eased.) Long live the W! Kevin Malloy
Thanks again Kevin!
The cut from hand prop the taxi is so quick I always think the plane is to get away from you! 😂
😂😂😂
North Western NJ is fantastic.
The water at the rwy 3 approach is wading shallow iirc. Luckily that's the end Damian lost the engine in the Piper. The rwy 21 end, you better know how to swim. I believe it's a flooded quarry so it's deep.
When it's a wind coming over the hill from behind the hangars there'll be gnarly gusts, windsocks pointing in opposite directions but the ripples in the water of the air going up and over and down the hill are a good telltale. Don't do a long final, angle the final to avoid flying over the ripples until short short short final.
Beautiful place, I have a shot of the parked planes in autumn with the barn that I use for a zoom background.
Sorry to hear about trinca, bumner.
J3 and Luscombe were my first 2 planes. Shame your buddy had to turn back. Awesome content as always, regardless. Got a kick out of you addressing the negative comments before anyone had the chance... only 2000ft on such a gusty day! Stopped and off before the taxiway 😆
Did my check ride at Andover a long long time ago 😊
Such an awesome spot
Such beautiful terrain to fly in. Great video !
Thanks a lot!
I will check out Aeroflex-Andover and thanks for the tip & video. Doubt you want to venture this far East in the J3 but Goodspeed (42B) is comparably beautiful. As a bonus, it is also a seaplane base with an associated school. I plan to get my ASES rating there next Summer. For me, it is a
I would like to. I hear really great things about that airport
Absolutely gorgeous video and views, have been in a super chipmunk, a very cool aircraft!
Have known a few airline pilots who feel totally uncomfortable in uncontrolled airspace and fields, I think that doing your own flight planning and executing it makes you think a bit about what if a lot more, vs having atc choreograph your every move.
Thank you! And I agree!
Another great video and thanks to this I flew up there yesterday. Great airport. May post my videos albeit much less quality than this!
Post em anyway! Never know who will see it and will get the aviation bug!
@@Bananasssssssss Here it is, landed a bit long, but overall not bad for a first visit... Thanks again for sharing this airport. th-cam.com/video/Hw5Q8A2cWuo/w-d-xo.html
Good dynamic proactive rudder movement on takeoff and landing at home base. Good job on the gas. I was Air Cav and tankers are indoctrinated to never pass a POL (petroleum, oil, and lubricants) point. In the mountains the 65 hp trainers are always in the maneuvering flight envelope. Not enough gas to climb to altitude to go over the high pass. Ridge lift up and down the other side for a gas stop. Good job accelerating in low ground effect until zoom reserve airspeed on takeoff after fuel. As an instructor, it hurts a lot to see stall/spin accidents onto airfield property. Where did they get the idea that getting up quickly was safe? Good rudder work with the gusty air enroute to Andover, but if we just remove our hand from the stick rudder only works as well or even better. Good view of the rudder at Andover. It is hard to get nose wheel only pilots to walk the rudder for longitudinal alignment on short final, touchdown, and rollout. They fuss, but even taking the slack out of push pull tubes to the nose gear is a good taxi drill with the yellow line between their legs. The best training engines are the slow turners like your 65 hp Continental, the 90 hp Continental, the O-300 Continental, the O-290 Lycoming, and the 235 hp O-540 in the Pawnee and CallAir Ag planes. They teach energy management outside just engine power. Energy like level in low ground effect, pitch just over the obstruction rather than inappropriate pitch up to Vx or Vy, down drainage egress, on course thermal lift if we fly slow in up air and fast through down air as do eagles and vultures, and ridge lift. Good video, I enjoyed it.
I love the opening shots!
Thanks! Me too. Rest of the video is lame
Compared to that 😂
@@Bananasssssssss You will find your groove. Best thing you can do to help your storytelling videos is get LOTS of B roll. Put it to your music in between the narration and stuff. Your videos are getting better already!
@@AV8R_1 thank you! Appreciate the advice
I used to fly out of Ramapo valley airport, always took my students to andover.
Another one of NJs closed airports 😭
Beautiful airfield indeed. 👍 With all the water and trees around, what option would you take if your engine quit during takeoff? Water or trees?
And another question regarding starting her up after just short stop like refueling. How does she behave there? I still haven't figured out what to do, to make it easier on me, as I usually have to work quite long until she fires up again. Maybe it is the way I turn her off? I set about 1000 rpm and turn the mags off. Maybe I should pull the throttle all the way back? How is your procedure?
Id probably choose water
Another great video Joe!
I know you probably already know...but you folks are so lucky with all of the airports and the ease of accessibility! We have a lot of airports in Canada...but they're always so damn far away!!
head to southern Alaska! There's an airstrip every ten feet.
Depends on where you live. Not bad in Southern Ontario, particularly if you know the off map grass strips. Once you know who they are, they're never upset to see all that grass they maintain getting used.
Great video!! Thanks for the share!
Thanks!
Great stuff Joe!
Thanks!
That 21 Approach reminds me of 32 Goodspeed in CT (42B)
I need to get up there
@@DIRTYdeeds613 😂😂😂
cool ..... ❤
It's like landing on an aircraft Carrier. But they've had some crashes there with some inexperienced pilots. And they got killed, but yet it's kind of cool, and there's a lot of turbulence used to be a profession of photographer who flew out of there, and he even said that the top turbone sometimes is something else. But it's a beautiful airport my brother lived in a house about. Oh, maybe a 1/2 mile down the road.
Maybe a 1/2 mile down the road sanitac or something. Bob dupbut I suspected
Such a gorgeous area of NJ
New Jersey, the State people love to hate, so says National Geographic. I grew up there, loved the small town, farm town areas, (Van Duynes Cider Mill.) My first plane ride was out of Hanover airport.
Was the departure airport in Medford (Flying W airport)?
Yup! That’s where I’m based
I’m an aviator and I really love the vids but I don’t understand how they all get away with using a drone for some of the shots. I would think that’s the last place a drone should ever be operating unless a notam is issued for times and areas in use.
Good question, just have to follow the guidelines within FAR 107. Spotter, two radio comms, uncontrolled airspace, out of way of traffic etc
Is 1n7 good? I always eat at N40 (driving 🤷🏼♂️)
yup! great Breakfast
Hey Joe looks like you had some buffeting taking off from home either cross or quartering wind did you use ailerons or rudder to control that ?????
I usually use Ailerons "into the wind" to prevent being pushed and then rudder once airborne to keep rwy centerline
You're flying a drone over an airport?? I'm guessing you're not an FAA Part 107 UAS pilot.
Amazing how many people assume you can’t fly a drone, near an airport. Brush up on the Regs 👍🏼 and I do have my 107. If you have any doubt, talk with your local FSDO like I did to get clarification. Controlled airports are another story.
@@Bananasssssssss I'm very familiar with the regs. I'm an FAA certified Part 107 UAS instructor and have had my Part 107 pilot certificate since 2017. You can't fly a drone in controlled airspace (Class A,B,C,D) without prior approval through either an LAANC service provider or through the FAADroneZone. Try doing that above an ATC towered airport and see what happens. And, btw, unless you're not using your real name, you're not listed in the FAA Airman Registry database.
Its private, If you watched more than the intro and didnt just want to preach about 107, you’d see it was me flying lol and this is clearly uncontrolled airport… listen to the Comms.
Hi Joe, loved this video. Thanks for all your great videos, such good publicity for low-power taildragging! Haven’t yet been to Andover in my Champ, but it’s a must-visit of course. (Had to use the W as a divert on a warm afternoon about a month ago since, after a couple hours flying, I couldn’t get down at VAY on the first five tries (!)-carb heat plunger was stuck up/on-so resolved each time to go around at the drop of a hat. Variable 5G19 I think it was. Weird. Fueled up at the W and made it over to home as the sun set and winds eased.) Long live the W! Kevin Malloy
Thanks Kevin!