they only put him there because of brave lyn. raventome builds there in general got moved up a tier or two as they have their use as brave lyn counters. green raventome units had benifeted from this greatly because they can also counter Reinhardt with the same build.
metricAsc02 Well, that is a thing, sure. But to me at least it would not put the unit up by that much since there are still the other struggles(besides, Henry always did good against colorless anyway, at least for me so that might be a bit why too). Besides, if Skill inhertiance considered other units might make better use of it anyway. But I'm not the one who decides on the tier list so that is a pointless opinion anyway.
SonicLegends I can see him in S tier. Mine runs Lancebreaker and Triangle Adept, he one shots almost all red units, including Sigurd, A!Tiki, and Ike. This is on top of huge buff, especially to Blade Tome units. He and Nino can deal with any team single handedly, so long as there's not to much Panic or Brave Lyn.
Well their justification for it is the firesweep lance, which when compared to Elincia who doesn't have the option to get a firesweep sword, gives her more options, hence why she's S+. In all honesty this is relatively idiotic reasoning because Cordelia as a flier really can't serve any other purpose aside from attacking, and the truth is, simply being able to attack isn't enough for a unit to be S+. Effie is up there because she can attack and she can tank. There's a difference between the two. While we're at it I think I've had enough of bridal Cordelia being up in S+ tier too, but maybe that's just me with my grumpy anti-Cordelia arguments. I guess having two ways to ORKO your opponent counts as "being able to play more than one role on a team." It mostly seems like worship to me. People freak out over a unit that has 35/35 offensive stats as if they've never seen anything like it before (though I will admit it is great on an archer and great in general). But then I can say I expect much either given they have brave Ike in a lower spot than Hector. Wonder what they're reasoning is for placing the most anti meta unit in the game a spot lower than a unit that's already starting to see a fall from grace thanks to the power creep. Maybe he just doesn't have enough ways to tank. Ha. The major point is, I gave up on this tier list a long time ago for many of the same reasons, excessive hyping of new units, and bowing down to the stats of certain units (inconsistently btw).
Arvis can debuff units and recover ring makes him hard to kill. If your worried about speed then put Darting Blow. Its a better skill on him anyways and with that he can easily double most units and end the round, and damge he takes is healed next turn. Arvis should atleast be A+ or S tier
Nathaniel Acevedo why not? I have been using him on all the game modes and he is doing much better then units like Tharja, Sonaki and any other red mage besides Celica. He ORKO almost all green and red units and goes back to full health in 2 turns or less. IMO his best rank is S
Well there are serious people out there... like the one dude who makes a comment about sending Arden home... so don't know... but if your joking then I lol
Try the Gamepress tier list. There are extremely detailed descriptions and good reasoning as to why they are where they are. It’s way more realistic than the other tier lists you can find on the internet, and the new heroes get placed at least a day after they are released. The GP community itself is the main source of data mine info for heroes, and overall a great group of people. I feel like more people should come to gamepress and follow their ratings rather than mess around with gamepedia.
Mr. SU No way surviving the first magic hit? Bro has 60 hp. With Deflect Magic and maybe some armor buffs he can probably live them. I would need some calcs to be sure though
Deflect magic. No unit can ORKO him. But to be honest, the only unit i see as a threat is reinhardt. Pair him with pseudo healer arvis and he'll survive everything.
Deflect Magic. He won't get below 50% easily and that is if you use brash assault seal 3. Only thing that will make him get in range are magic attacks and that's why deflect magic is there.
I also looked into the description of Arden and as it turns out according to the wiki, "He's strong and he's tough." "His 16 Res is also pretty awful. If a mage so much as looks his way or sneezes on him, he will fold. He does have very high HP but he is undoubtedly being doubled." In addition to no actual practical analysis of the unit the writing itself is just plain awkward or obnoxious. Take for example the use of present tense in such a way that makes the entire sentence fall apart in convoluted fashion. You might think this is just me nitpicking, but I truly think this phrasing just about sums up the depth of the wiki's understanding when it comes to the characters. They don't go through the calculations, they don't really provide any sort of meaningful explanation as to why they praise half the units they do, and they don't actually make any effort when it comes to basic editing, which leads me to conclude they are simply not a credible source at all. And before you argue that they do care about basic editing but just haven't had the time to edit Arden's "analysis" let me also quote one of the sentences I found in the analysis for Hector: "Hector still suffers against magic though with his low Spd and Res, especially against red mages." And perhaps I wouldn't be pointing this out if I considered half their justifications valid but I don't. In reality this is just my own confirmation that there is absolutely nothing good about the wiki, to the point where even the writing is just as godawful as the rest of it.
Draug as good as Xander? Arden above literally everyone including all DC sword units? LUKE IN A- BELOW CAEDA, AND SETH?! ROY AND NAVARRE WORSE THAN TOBIN?!?!! No wonder this tier list is a meme.
+CrazyE It seems like YOU don’t understand this tier list at all. Units that are in the same tier are weighted equally. Yes, this tier list is weird, but people are meming on this way too much, to the point where they’re criticizing things that are actually correct about this tier list, and think they know what they’re talking about when they really don’t. I bet 70% of people watching this video couldn’t even make a better tier list lol
+CrazyE "I get the feeling you don't understand this tier list at all." Literally one of the 1st things under the important tab on that tier list says *Order does not matter within the same tier.* people over react to the gamepedia tier list way to much one of the 1st things you see on this current tier list under the updates section is "Major update in the works." meaning they're reworking the tier list. If you scroll down to the character explanations you can even see that all the new characters are listed under tentative ratings meaning it's subject to change. Cut the people some fucking slack you don't even have to follow the damn tier list because it has no impact on how you play the game it's literally just there for new players to get an understanding on how certain units preform in the meta. The defense ploy est was funny but at this point people are beating a dead horse and it's so fucking obvious that half the people criticizing the tier list don't even bother to read the shit that's actually above the tier list
I was gonna say OUI ARDEN DESERVES ARDEN TO BE AT LEAST S TEIR! HE IS STRONG AND TOUGH AND OBLITERATES LITTERLY EVERY EVEN BLUE UNITS! *cough only mages tho....but then I see Virion lol
Arden is great unless a mage gets to him first. S+ should be the tier for units that only have specific units as counters, not an entire spectrum of units as counters.
Brian Torres same is true with ayra. She has nothing to offer but her stats. To be honest she isnt viable at rank 20 where the use of +10 reinhardts and +10 nowis are as common as the stars. Being a sword infantry is her worst attribute.
Meme tier is a fitting name I think. At this point they might as well put daddy wrys in the unranked category and give the explanation that ranking a god is the equivalent to dividing by zero and is therefore completely impossible. Imagine S and -S with plus signs on repeat stretching on for infinity. One can not fit such power into a screen. It holds true that the powers of Wrys break even the rules of maths, going well above mere human comprehension, but for a giggle they could assign him with the pineapple rating. With the meme complete, taking a full circle, the contributors of the wiki can finally retire and get a new job flipping burgers at McDonald's. A job like that is pretty hard to screw up, but even if they manage to do that, at least the only people affected are the idiots who buy that kind of food in the first place.
Rocket Lawnchair 2.0 funny enough when the Halloween banner comes she might become a tier on the wiki's tier list because of Sakura's paddle for killing mages.
Everyone talks about the crazy things on the Gamepedia tier list like Est in S tier, but no one talk about how Gamepress puts Fae on the same level as the likes of relly strong units like Celica, Elincia, Linde, Tana, and... well everything else in the same tier. Honestly I think it's good to cross reference these together to weed out the crazy BS.
Admittedly tier 2 with gamepress is a hot mess, but Fae has been underrated for some time now. She is a pretty powerful anti mage unit after all. I think she has more right to be there than some others to be honest.
Brandon Kenas hes actually a great bait unit i dont regret using close counter on him. His unique niche makes me prioritize him over cecilia on my horse emblem
Nowi with fury can one shot most sword units and she has dc, Sheena with bonfire and slaying axe kills alot, Lukas with wrath basically is almost unkillable heck I would put them in S teir myself
He belongs up there I think, mine usually attacks 4 times in a row which is insane for an armored unit especially with that damage. Buff his weakness godly.
IS knew Dorcas would break the meme tiers; his placing of 201th in the male rankings for the polls showed them that they shouldn't dare put Dorcas in FEH.
LV12 MageWizard thats why you bait brave lyn with a different unit.... Felicia is a mage killer specialist shes not meant to take out entire teams alone
The fact that you sacrificed Sakura for Kitty Paddles makes me sad... I wanted that Sakura so bad! Granted I got her with plus res and minus speed IVs is good. But still...
James Clary-Wilson She trashes even blue units on player phase. That woman is terrifying. Also, cavalry have low BST, whales can't be bothered by those
Noobie Sensei In tier 20 I guess Rein isn't as prevalent? But I feel most of the time, Sigurd is better against all the God tier blue mages. And, you know, Rein.
Leo Luo I know, I have her at +1 with high speed. I just feel Sigurd and Roy are a little more useful. Horse buffs are too good, and Sigurd is absurdly hard to kill. Like, goddamn. He is really, really hard to kill.
So why does everyone complain about this? The only thing I disagree with is Arden in S+ because any blue mage will just destroy him. But I don’t see anything else wrong with it, all the other characters are really strong.
Well... Arden has 56 def in arena if summoner support and has earth boost... There isn't much melee that can hit higher than 52 and strong Lancer will only do 0-17 damage. Effie sometimes does 0x2
Danka Thing is that Reinheardt is good without Death Blow as well. It just makes him better. Est is made better with Def Ploy but minus 5 def on the enemy doesn’t make her SUPER good. And that minus 5 only works in Cardinal directions that’s why I feel it’s too situational
Arden doesnt lose a single match with any unit on the player phase. He can even tank a hit from siguard, kill him and go face Ayra and survive her Regnal Astra killing her next turn. He is unstoppable when he attacks and against anyone thats not a mage he survives
He's really up for his compensation of great builds like his quad deathblow use thanks to his follow up ring. And high hp and def. Black knight has his compensation aswell like built in DC great speed and attack with a powerful special. Although dude, Its quite new the list so things change.
Aside for Dagger Olivia, Shigure is not the faster dancer from the PA banner? My Shigure is +Spd with Darting Blow I think he doubles almost everyone, except for Lon'Qu... You will only double Lon'Qu with Brave Weapon or Swordbreaker >;D BTW, which bugs me is Fae not being S+ Tier since she is the only green dragon in the game! Is like racing alone and still reach in second place... Edit: Anyone can answe to me why Lucina and Masked Marth are in different Tiers? They are the same characters...
Epic armor emblem team: Arden, Amelia, Halloween Henry, Olivia. Give olivia kitty paddle and distant def. sacred seal and she'll tank every mage. I would say neko sakura, but the fact that olivia has good res, AND is a dancer, is just fantastic. Sadly i don't have PA! Olivia😭
People are freaking out about Arden about being S+ but no one bats an eye at Effie being S+ since inheritance was introduced. The only thing Effie can do better than Arden is tanking Mages. Arden almost kills the entire roster with his quad deathblow build AND he can use distant counter better than Effie due to follow up ring. At this point, people are letting their bias get the better of them due to Arden's UNIQUE art which objectively is more detailed in terms of shading compared to a lot of the other arts.
I already know where I would be
S+++
back off meme demon!! or i quad your ass!!
Dam it typhoon and potion... I could ice berg both of you if I desire lol
Your not talking about me that guy?
*ahem*
No you are in B+
Stopping to think about it, a meme tier list would be nice. With Wrys, Arden and Reindhart on S+ tier and Seth once again ranked high
Henry A- ... Not considering Skill Inheritance...
WHAT WERE THESE PEOPLE ON!?
Moeko and male robin in the tier below
john topping
What were they on!? O.O'
they only put him there because of brave lyn. raventome builds there in general got moved up a tier or two as they have their use as brave lyn counters. green raventome units had benifeted from this greatly because they can also counter Reinhardt with the same build.
metricAsc02
Well, that is a thing, sure. But to me at least it would not put the unit up by that much since there are still the other struggles(besides, Henry always did good against colorless anyway, at least for me so that might be a bit why too).
Besides, if Skill inhertiance considered other units might make better use of it anyway.
But I'm not the one who decides on the tier list so that is a pointless opinion anyway.
RobinF didn't get the memo apparently.
Why is est still in S tier
Because she's not that bad.
Maybe not S, but she deserves to be somewhere up there
est with base attack+ is 38, also abundant for merging, best blue lance flyer in my teams
She's 'Est' tier.....
get it? 'S' sounds like 'Est'?...
ill leave
The real question is why am I not?
Her Resistance gives her access to Defense Ploy, and Speed Ploy, the two ploys that work best for her.
Ephraim not S tier? DISGUSTING! He doesn't pick fights he cannot win!
Then why did he choose to go to the first voting gauntlet????? I recall the finals vividly (Yes, I am a SS fan.)
Zach's Fan Club he didn't pick it. He was forced by IS to lose. *It's scripted*
Y-09 Longbow Synthesis its a joke XD
phraim is not s tier
SonicLegends I can see him in S tier. Mine runs Lancebreaker and Triangle Adept, he one shots almost all red units, including Sigurd, A!Tiki, and Ike. This is on top of huge buff, especially to Blade Tome units. He and Nino can deal with any team single handedly, so long as there's not to much Panic or Brave Lyn.
Who the fuck created the tier list for Gamepedia?
2:33 Why the heck is Cordelia up there twice at S+? I don't even find her lance incarnation to be all that great.
+Kratos Aurion Plays Cordelia is an absolute monster though
Well their justification for it is the firesweep lance, which when compared to Elincia who doesn't have the option to get a firesweep sword, gives her more options, hence why she's S+. In all honesty this is relatively idiotic reasoning because Cordelia as a flier really can't serve any other purpose aside from attacking, and the truth is, simply being able to attack isn't enough for a unit to be S+. Effie is up there because she can attack and she can tank. There's a difference between the two. While we're at it I think I've had enough of bridal Cordelia being up in S+ tier too, but maybe that's just me with my grumpy anti-Cordelia arguments. I guess having two ways to ORKO your opponent counts as "being able to play more than one role on a team."
It mostly seems like worship to me. People freak out over a unit that has 35/35 offensive stats as if they've never seen anything like it before (though I will admit it is great on an archer and great in general).
But then I can say I expect much either given they have brave Ike in a lower spot than Hector. Wonder what they're reasoning is for placing the most anti meta unit in the game a spot lower than a unit that's already starting to see a fall from grace thanks to the power creep. Maybe he just doesn't have enough ways to tank. Ha.
The major point is, I gave up on this tier list a long time ago for many of the same reasons, excessive hyping of new units, and bowing down to the stats of certain units (inconsistently btw).
Cordelia and bridal cordelia
Memes are the essence of life
I think Arvis should be higher
Ronin Rose 36 speed with fury, no.
Arvis can debuff units and recover ring makes him hard to kill. If your worried about speed then put Darting Blow. Its a better skill on him anyways and with that he can easily double most units and end the round, and damge he takes is healed next turn. Arvis should atleast be A+ or S tier
Chowdhury 797
A+? Definitely
S? No way
Nathaniel Acevedo why not? I have been using him on all the game modes and he is doing much better then units like Tharja, Sonaki and any other red mage besides Celica. He ORKO almost all green and red units and goes back to full health in 2 turns or less. IMO his best rank is S
Sanaki with a blade tome can one shot a large number of units with buffs due to her high attack stat. Units like xander for example.
Est is the best, cause she has a
Small tiny chest
I can ***est
Est is in the est tier
forget about the rest
*forest
I see you are of some quality IDC_SAO culture. Lol
+3DS_Fell God- My Hope Will Never Die IDC FTW
Ayra should be in C tier for cheap tatics used by IS to make more $
What the fuck you mean?
It's a bait banner, got two red 5 star, guess who they were.......Eldigan
You smoking if she should be c tier! How you get 73 thumbs up is beyond me!
Lady Caeda It's a joke...
Well there are serious people out there... like the one dude who makes a comment about sending Arden home... so don't know... but if your joking then I lol
Why isn't Will Smith in the S+ tier?
I feel like these guys are just making the tier list controversial on purpose after the whole Def Ploy thing.
Try the Gamepress tier list. There are extremely detailed descriptions and good reasoning as to why they are where they are. It’s way more realistic than the other tier lists you can find on the internet, and the new heroes get placed at least a day after they are released. The GP community itself is the main source of data mine info for heroes, and overall a great group of people. I feel like more people should come to gamepress and follow their ratings rather than mess around with gamepedia.
The question is, Deflect Magic or Brash Assault Seal?
I'd say Brash Assault, no way he's surviving even the first hit of a magic attack, and BA can keep him doubling even if he goes below 50% hp
Mr. SU No way surviving the first magic hit? Bro has 60 hp. With Deflect Magic and maybe some armor buffs he can probably live them. I would need some calcs to be sure though
Deflect magic. No unit can ORKO him. But to be honest, the only unit i see as a threat is reinhardt. Pair him with pseudo healer arvis and he'll survive everything.
Deflect Magic. He won't get below 50% easily and that is if you use brash assault seal 3. Only thing that will make him get in range are magic attacks and that's why deflect magic is there.
People always sleeping on my boy Wrys. S+ tier easy
Ranking Wrys is like dividing by zero.
Black Knight > Arden
I don’t know why anyone even uses this trash Tier List anymore. They suck at properly putting people in tiers
Isn't that crazy? I can't believe they made Ayra S+
I also looked into the description of Arden and as it turns out according to the wiki, "He's strong and he's tough." "His 16 Res is also pretty awful. If a mage so much as looks his way or sneezes on him, he will fold. He does have very high HP but he is undoubtedly being doubled." In addition to no actual practical analysis of the unit the writing itself is just plain awkward or obnoxious. Take for example the use of present tense in such a way that makes the entire sentence fall apart in convoluted fashion. You might think this is just me nitpicking, but I truly think this phrasing just about sums up the depth of the wiki's understanding when it comes to the characters. They don't go through the calculations, they don't really provide any sort of meaningful explanation as to why they praise half the units they do, and they don't actually make any effort when it comes to basic editing, which leads me to conclude they are simply not a credible source at all.
And before you argue that they do care about basic editing but just haven't had the time to edit Arden's "analysis" let me also quote one of the sentences I found in the analysis for Hector: "Hector still suffers against magic though with his low Spd and Res, especially against red mages."
And perhaps I wouldn't be pointing this out if I considered half their justifications valid but I don't. In reality this is just my own confirmation that there is absolutely nothing good about the wiki, to the point where even the writing is just as godawful as the rest of it.
Draug as good as Xander? Arden above literally everyone including all DC sword units? LUKE IN A- BELOW CAEDA, AND SETH?! ROY AND NAVARRE WORSE THAN TOBIN?!?!!
No wonder this tier list is a meme.
what are you saying ? they arn't above each other they are all in same tier that you mentioned beside arden.
I get the feeling you don't understand this tier list at all.
idk about roy and nav but i never seen anyone use him but ive seen tobin so idk about those 2.
+CrazyE It seems like YOU don’t understand this tier list at all. Units that are in the same tier are weighted equally. Yes, this tier list is weird, but people are meming on this way too much, to the point where they’re criticizing things that are actually correct about this tier list, and think they know what they’re talking about when they really don’t. I bet 70% of people watching this video couldn’t even make a better tier list lol
+CrazyE
"I get the feeling you don't understand this tier list at all."
Literally one of the 1st things under the important tab on that tier list says *Order does not matter within the same tier.*
people over react to the gamepedia tier list way to much one of the 1st things you see on this current tier list under the updates section is "Major update in the works." meaning they're reworking the tier list. If you scroll down to the character explanations you can even see that all the new characters are listed under tentative ratings meaning it's subject to change.
Cut the people some fucking slack you don't even have to follow the damn tier list because it has no impact on how you play the game it's literally just there for new players to get an understanding on how certain units preform in the meta.
The defense ploy est was funny but at this point people are beating a dead horse and it's so fucking obvious that half the people criticizing the tier list don't even bother to read the shit that's actually above the tier list
"watcha gonna do when they come for you bad boys bad boys" sages is so fun to listen to
Dang. When I saw the title, I thought you had made a tier-list on how meme-worthy each character is.
Idk who made that tier list but they need help
Hector remains strong on the S+ list. Praise be to him.
Credibility for this tier list is dead
Newt the Amphibameme Just idiots ranking their waifus way too high
Why is Virion A+ o.0
I was gonna say OUI ARDEN DESERVES ARDEN TO BE AT LEAST S TEIR! HE IS STRONG AND TOUGH AND OBLITERATES LITTERLY EVERY EVEN BLUE UNITS! *cough only mages tho....but then I see Virion lol
I find Black Knight to be WAAAY better than Arden. How he ended up below him i don't know.
I take back what I said about arden ; in an armor emblem with the right skills He will be invincible
But Arden is really good :(
Andrew the Potato King tell that to Reinhardt.
Arden is great unless a mage gets to him first. S+ should be the tier for units that only have specific units as counters, not an entire spectrum of units as counters.
that guy you never care about Not really. His base kit is as good as he will get, anything else would be futile
Andrew P give him deflect magic and he can never be ORKO. He is really good tbh.
Brian Torres same is true with ayra. She has nothing to offer but her stats. To be honest she isnt viable at rank 20 where the use of +10 reinhardts and +10 nowis are as common as the stars. Being a sword infantry is her worst attribute.
This is why I use Gamepress's tier list. Though, they don't have any healers on their tier list
Meme tier is a fitting name I think. At this point they might as well put daddy wrys in the unranked category and give the explanation that ranking a god is the equivalent to dividing by zero and is therefore completely impossible. Imagine S and -S with plus signs on repeat stretching on for infinity. One can not fit such power into a screen. It holds true that the powers of Wrys break even the rules of maths, going well above mere human comprehension, but for a giggle they could assign him with the pineapple rating. With the meme complete, taking a full circle, the contributors of the wiki can finally retire and get a new job flipping burgers at McDonald's. A job like that is pretty hard to screw up, but even if they manage to do that, at least the only people affected are the idiots who buy that kind of food in the first place.
This is why people use Gampress
Your description on Arden was hilarious lmao 😂
WHY ISNT FELICIA S+ TIER XD
Rocket Lawnchair 2.0 funny enough when the Halloween banner comes she might become a tier on the wiki's tier list because of Sakura's paddle for killing mages.
With Kitty Paddle bring her to A or S
This tier list is actually pretty accurate
Sheena > Camus
Ok list, whatever you say
With proper skill inheritance Sheena is probably better than Hector, it’s just expensive.
Crowbachprints that probably is very convincing
She can get 40 Def and 40 res at +10 ( +res without buffs)
Everyone talks about the crazy things on the Gamepedia tier list like Est in S tier, but no one talk about how Gamepress puts Fae on the same level as the likes of relly strong units like Celica, Elincia, Linde, Tana, and... well everything else in the same tier. Honestly I think it's good to cross reference these together to weed out the crazy BS.
Admittedly tier 2 with gamepress is a hot mess, but Fae has been underrated for some time now. She is a pretty powerful anti mage unit after all. I think she has more right to be there than some others to be honest.
Oh hey, 🍅 boy moved up to A. I'm proud
Brandon Kenas hes actually a great bait unit i dont regret using close counter on him. His unique niche makes me prioritize him over cecilia on my horse emblem
the gamepress one is WAAAAAYYYY better
Alexander Familton yep.
No, gamepress is garbage
They put nowi in S+, reinhardt in S..
Sheena, Lukas, Nephenee in S
Alexander Familton PM1 tier list is waaaaay better than both of gamepress and gamepedia one
Nowi with fury can one shot most sword units and she has dc, Sheena with bonfire and slaying axe kills alot, Lukas with wrath basically is almost unkillable heck I would put them in S teir myself
He belongs up there I think, mine usually attacks 4 times in a row which is insane for an armored unit especially with that damage. Buff his weakness godly.
Def Ploys, Def Ploys, what you gonna do, what you gonna when they come for you
I think the gampress one is really good.
Ayra is definitely on on a tier of her own
Love camus chilling in that A rank 🖒👌
I should be s+++
Catria says "hi" from the A+ rank
Chad Jones ikr😂 they put shanna, catria and perri above camus?
No wonder Sages calls it Meme tier
I would argue that Nephenee is at least A+ if not low to mid S. But that's just me.
Arden deserves his place. With Armor March and Guidance, his mobility isn't that much of an issue.
Camus A tier yeah right, okay, yeah thats fine
MAH BOI ARDEN IS S+! FINALLY, PEOPLE SEE THE STRENGTH OF THE SCARY ART MAN!
Blue 5 Range Mage Nuker in the same tier as a 1 Range Sword Nuker. Seems legit.
This tier list is just player phase tier list and that's it.
bruh im at 4.0 do i break that shid or nah
I don't think it's a mistake that arden is S+ and one of the only other S+ units is Tana.
Guidance + Arden is deadly
IS knew Dorcas would break the meme tiers; his placing of 201th in the male rankings for the polls showed them that they shouldn't dare put Dorcas in FEH.
Why isn't wrys in S+?
It astounds me as to how they put Gordin above Takumi.
Where is S++Shrek #Odinandshrekreck
Well, nerds, I've got her. I went into the depth of colorless hell and finally got Performing Olivia! Even better, she +Res, -Hp. Watch out, mages.
My +10 Felicia is A or S rank Material with Kitty Paddle 😅 yeah I said it..Horse emblem reinhart,His sister or Cecilia got nothing on my Girl
Oh shit? I guess your waifu can beat my female robin fury 3 +2:0
Too bad you won't have Kitty paddle on a Felicia
Too bad Brave Lynn is the next hurdle she should worry about after Reinhardt and not Olwen or Cecillia......
LV12 MageWizard thats why you bait brave lyn with a different unit.... Felicia is a mage killer specialist shes not meant to take out entire teams alone
The fact that you sacrificed Sakura for Kitty Paddles makes me sad... I wanted that Sakura so bad! Granted I got her with plus res and minus speed IVs is good. But still...
So the dagger Olivia isn't s or s+ but her son is? Lol
How is Ayra in S+, I don't get it. She's an infantry sword, which means she has no real place in this cavalry infested meta...
James Clary-Wilson She trashes even blue units on player phase. That woman is terrifying. Also, cavalry have low BST, whales can't be bothered by those
Noobie Sensei In tier 20 I guess Rein isn't as prevalent? But I feel most of the time, Sigurd is better against all the God tier blue mages. And, you know, Rein.
Ayra just demolishes things... Lots of things...
Leo Luo I know, I have her at +1 with high speed. I just feel Sigurd and Roy are a little more useful. Horse buffs are too good, and Sigurd is absurdly hard to kill. Like, goddamn. He is really, really hard to kill.
That is only the Arena tier list from this side
So why does everyone complain about this? The only thing I disagree with is Arden in S+ because any blue mage will just destroy him. But I don’t see anything else wrong with it, all the other characters are really strong.
Navarre and Roy... ALL BY OUR SELVES
@sages can we talk about collab units and how we dont have one yet?
Silly rabbit tier lists are for kids!
Well... Arden has 56 def in arena if summoner support and has earth boost...
There isn't much melee that can hit higher than 52 and strong Lancer will only do 0-17 damage.
Effie sometimes does 0x2
Good Thing i still have my Triangle Adept Nowi. There should not be any better counter for him.
what happened to dorcas
Where's my tier 21 exclusive units at?
Is Cordelia really that good?
Black knight: 34 spd, dc built in, emblem buffs, 1 movement
Camus: 33 spd, dc built in, emblem buffs, 3 movement
Black knight: S tier
Camus: A .-.
All of Black Knight's stats are highter. Also, Black Luna.
Ye, I know bk is better than camus, just not 2 whole tiers better. The wiki overall underates dc users imo
Why is Est still up there? The def ploy meme is dead guys
But it's not. Now that Def Ploy is a free skill, Arvis got it at 4*
Danka I was more implying that such a situational skill shouldn’t boost a character’s rank as much as they boosted Est at least imo
Well then Death Blow is a situationnal skill as well so Reinhardt should be ranked B+
Danka Thing is that Reinheardt is good without Death Blow as well. It just makes him better. Est is made better with Def Ploy but minus 5 def on the enemy doesn’t make her SUPER good. And that minus 5 only works in Cardinal directions that’s why I feel it’s too situational
But Black Knight is still better than Arden, please explain
Arden doesnt lose a single match with any unit on the player phase. He can even tank a hit from siguard, kill him and go face Ayra and survive her Regnal Astra killing her next turn. He is unstoppable when he attacks and against anyone thats not a mage he survives
Chowdhury 797 blue magic
Ryan Fritz player phase
Swordbreaker Triangle Adept 3 40+10 5 star Nowi
vs
Level 1 4 star Arden
Player phase: Nowi wins
Enemy phase: Nowi wins
Your argument is invalid
Christian Caisley ha, funny joke
THE POWER OF PURSUIT!
I mean, I'm surprised that Arden is higher up than the Black Knight but I've not actually used my Arden yet so idk.
He's really up for his compensation of great builds like his quad deathblow use thanks to his follow up ring. And high hp and def. Black knight has his compensation aswell like built in DC great speed and attack with a powerful special. Although dude, Its quite new the list so things change.
wait why is shigure higher than Olyvia?
As a proud Olwen user I don't see why she isn't s, she isnt (in my opinion) objectivly worse than her brother. Less atrack and much higher speed
I ran Arden through the mass duel simulator and with deathblow and F.U.R. he doesn't lose any duels in the player phase (with default skills anyway)
Btw sages u still doin that show me your build thingy
arden will be s+ , the hollowen banner will do the job for him
Aside for Dagger Olivia, Shigure is not the faster dancer from the PA banner? My Shigure is +Spd with Darting Blow I think he doubles almost everyone, except for Lon'Qu... You will only double Lon'Qu with Brave Weapon or Swordbreaker >;D
BTW, which bugs me is Fae not being S+ Tier since she is the only green dragon in the game! Is like racing alone and still reach in second place...
Edit: Anyone can answe to me why Lucina and Masked Marth are in different Tiers? They are the same characters...
Epic armor emblem team: Arden, Amelia, Halloween Henry, Olivia. Give olivia kitty paddle and distant def. sacred seal and she'll tank every mage. I would say neko sakura, but the fact that olivia has good res, AND is a dancer, is just fantastic. Sadly i don't have PA! Olivia😭
Am I missing something?
Why is normal Cordelia so high?
My level forty Arden has 44 attack with a brave weapon. Outside of an armor emblem team, he a tier at best
How is Ephriam not at the very top??
People are freaking out about Arden about being S+ but no one bats an eye at Effie being S+ since inheritance was introduced.
The only thing Effie can do better than Arden is tanking Mages. Arden almost kills the entire roster with his quad deathblow build AND he can use distant counter better than Effie due to follow up ring. At this point, people are letting their bias get the better of them due to Arden's UNIQUE art which objectively is more detailed in terms of shading compared to a lot of the other arts.
Arden + Distant Counter = Pain
Robin is an under-rated unit.
Main problem with this is that Camus is only A tier lmaooo
Summer Leo is basically red Julia
Gwendolyn as A tier is pretty good, she's Effie with more HP
i have gotten 5 fricken eldigans and no ayra 210 orbs down the damn drain
Wow this is a meme tier? *interesting*
But why is normal Cordelia in S+
ahhh...isn't that arena tier list?
No doubt about Brave Lyn been the strongest unit since she was realised
Arden in S tier? Pfft, he transcends known tier lists.
Poor people who don't understand the Arena Assault 744 meta shouldn't comment about Arden and Sheena being so high up.
I wonder when we getting squad ace e? Would be nice to get another atk seal but with a different name lol
Est is s tier ??
Robin M in B+ under henry ?