My job has free charging so we only go to super chargers when we are lazy and haven’t been to the office in a while. Currently at charged: 675kWh Spent: $49 Gas equivalent: $332 Savings: 283
Have our 2024 Model 3 for two months now. We're in an apartment and there's a Wawa a couple miles away with superchargers, and a grocery store a couple miles away with a free L2 charger. We're eventually going to buy a mobile connector and just park next to a window and put the plug out and start charging that way. So yes, it can be done.
Imo i can totally get by using the superchargers. The time lost doesn’t affect me at all. I’m more worried about how much using the superchargers that much will affect the battery’s health. But so far it doesn’t seem like a big problem anymore on newer models
I don’t have a home charger, but my town has several Lv.2 chargers with the price set to FREE! & all within a 4 minute walk from my home. After 4 years I’ve noticed no battery degradation from almost never keeping it plugged in.
I live in a rental apartment with no charging available at home, nor at work. I've had a Tesla Model 3 since 2018. I pretty much exclusively charge at superchargers. I had no noticible degradation of my high voltage battery on my 2018 Model 3 and now with with my new 2024 Model 3, I charge to 100%. Still almost exclusively at supercharger. The only time I get other charging is when camping at electric sites. I plug into t30 trailer plug then or at hotels that have EV chargers. I'm in Canada.
@@DamiiDoesGaming I drove a Subaru Impreza before the TM3, driving 40km a day for work cost me upwards and around $50 a week. Driving the same distance in my TM3 cost me about $22 a week, insurance is about the same, and I have no maintenance or service cost like I did with my Impreza. I saved $75 per pay for service and maintenance costs for my Impreza and rarely had any left over for moding my Impreza. I save $65 per pay now, for shits and giggles mods to my TM3. I'm saving a little more now too because of 3 months of free supercharging with my new Tesla. FYI if you're interested in a new Tesla, I can refer you for $1300 off a TM3 or TMY and you'll get 3 months of free supercharging. Just over a month after I got financing, Tesla has 1.99% Financing offer. Boohoo me, but woohoo for new buyers.
I work from home and just took delivery of my standard 2023 model 3. I’ve had it for a week and I charge it in my garage on the regular level 1 charging outlet. I thought this would be an issue but I’m getting a consistent 5 miles per hour just from my regular outlet. Much better than the 2-3 miles Tesla and others claim. Try it out, you may find your regular outlet works better than expected.
That is what I do. Use about 20% a day and just charge it at night from 80% to 100% everyday (I have the battery that is fine to charge to 100%). I would recommend for anyone doing this to get it checked by an electrician though. One of my outlets had smoke coming out of it because of a wire melting and the load on that circuit. Just cause of old materials. Had to call fire dept lol. Got it upgraded and all fine now though.
I’ve had my model 3 since January of 2023 and live in a condominium complex, luckily I live next to a mall and have a supercharger there but whenever anyone asks if I love my Tesla or how it is to charge I always explain to them that the major benefit is if you charge at home, yes you can use the supercharger but it’s more convenient at home. I also explain how it depends if they do long distance traveling as opposed to someone that travels throughout the city. All these are very important factors that overall should be tied in if you decided to get one.
Currently have a petition in with my HOA to allow us to install 240v outlets in our personal parking spaces in my condo building. I just got my Tesla and can charge at work for free, but I also want to be able to charge at home as well.
Good luck! I’m trying to do the same in my condominium, it’s a pretty big one with lots of guest parking and I mentioned to the president if they would be willing to install at least one or two stations but they’re being a pain and just flat out turning me down.
Would love to know what attracted you to any situation where you have to seek permission to do what you wish with your property. That's like a child making mortgage payments and asking permission to eat a cookie. I'm astounded how people are so willing to forfeit freedom.
@@sonovabeach because not every situation is black and white where people can just openly afford a house instead of a condo. In my situation I’m on my own and saved enough to be able to own a condo instead of a house that would cost me 6x more and triple the mortgage. Many own condos instead because of this similar situation and for the most part it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.
My panel was about 50ft away from where I needed the plug. Cost me $1100 to get it installed but worth it. I’m keeping the car and you really need it. Supercharging is 3X the price of home charging
The Ontario (Canada) government introduced an ultra-low overnight price plan a short while ago. The cost is 2.8 cents / kWh. The peak rate from 4 to 9 pm is a little more (28.6 cents / kWh) but the cost to charge an EV overnight is now really cheap.
I commute to work 5 times a week. About 180 miles round trip. I have only used superchargers on road trips 😊 I arrive to work with 30% (charge @ 24mi/hr) Leave work with 80% Arrive home with 50% (charge @ 4mi/hr) Leave home to work with 60% And do it all over again lol
Thank you for being honest! I’m one month into owning my new 2024 Tesla M3 and I just had my home charger installed over the weekend. I would not recommend getting a Tesla if you do not have home charging! No one told me this!
MODEL Y owner here, i only charge at super chargers, zero issues. i drive for uber and lyft so the supercharger network is what keeps my wheels rolling. i kill 2 birds with one stone when i charge on my lunch breaks.
@@euphoricmonk No, fast charging, also known as DC charging, doesn't seem to degrade EV batteries faster than slow charging. In fact, a study by Recurrent found no statistically significant difference in range degradation between Tesla vehicles that fast charged more than 90% of the time and those that fast charged less than 10% of the time. The study also found that the robust thermal, voltage, and battery management systems in EVs protect their batteries from damage with routine fast charger use.
I bought my model X when it came out in 2016. I had FUSC that’s transferable. 8 years of use, I early charged at home. I live in LA, and use public chargers for free or supercharging. I save around $500-$600 a month. Over the life of the car, I’ve saved “according to the tesla app”, $6,000 a year. Overall savings of $49k and I’m gonna transfer my supercharging to a model X plaid next month! Can’t wait!
@@TheFreshPersepctive so is there a way that I could get it without having a previous account? I'm going too see if they can put free supercharging in my contract when I get my Tesla.
@@GenieFarmsif you don’t already have it then you have to wait for offers to come out. Right now for a new S or X they offer free unlimited charging , Full self driving , and premium connection for 3 years for 5k
@@caalmen1522 so I have too choose this instead of the lifetime Supercharging? They said they don't negotiate on the emails but I know there is a way if I really wanted. Is this the best approach to getting a Tesla now especially if I plan on road tripping like crazy?
Great video! I own a Model 3 SR in ATL and I tell people interested in EVs this advice all the time. Don’t get an EV unless you have the ability to charge at home. When I first got my Tesla I supercharged mostly for the first 2 months and It was Very inconvenient. Oddly enough, Tesla has added 2 more superchargers near me since I’ve purchased my M3. But when I got mine the closest charger was 15 mins away. So I had to travel 30 mins combined to charge and of course I’d lose range on my way back home. All I have to do now is plug in overnight and I have a “full tank” every morning, so clutch.
I wouldnt say you shouldnt get an EV if you cant charge at home. I've had my M3 LR for around 4 months now. In that time ive driven around 7000 km and paid for 318 $ of supercharging. In my old petrol car, it wouldve cost me around 1200 $ in gas (in my country) for that same distance, maybe more, given that most of my driving is in the city, where ICE cars are even worse than on longer trips. I've only charged for free when visiting my familiy who have solar panels on their roof. Since the free charging accounts for at max 15-20% of all my charging, the rest being superchargers, i still save an incredible ammount of money by driving my M3, compared to my old ICE car. Especially if you only have a relatively short commute to work every day, owning an EV without being able to charge at home is no problem. With a commute of in total (there and back) around 30km i have to charge at a supercharger once a week, mostly every two weeks, for around 30 minutes. In that time i get groceries or eat out, so im litteraly "wasting" a 10 minute drive detour to the supercharger once every two weeks after work. But obviously, if your commute is 100km each way, owning an EV doesnt make sense if you cant charge at home. On the other hand i read, that the average commute for americans is 40 miles a day, meaning it would make sense for most people to own an EV anyways.
I purposefully bought an older 2015 Tesla Model S for my first Tesla from a dealer, not Tesla so I could find one with free unlimited supercharging, I just so happen to find a P85D for 20k so great deal there... I only have 110 at home which was fine for my Volt, but not so great for my Tesla... I still plan to run 220 out to my car port, but I have a supercharger right near my work like about a mile or less away.. so a couple times a week I stop by there after work to fill back up to at least 60% sometimes when I'm super low when I get home I'll use the 110 to get about 30-50 miles overnight but my main charging source at this moment in time is supercharging.
If you have an electric dryer you can plug your tesla into that. Just remember those are almost always 30 amp outlets and you should only charge at 80% of total amps. So when you plug in change the option to 24 amps. Also you can use a Y adapter to have both the dryer and tesla plugged in at the same time. Just don't dry your clothes and charge at the same time.
I just want to chime in on the cabin overheat protection. You are free to turn it off during the winter and on mild summer days. But please if its warm out and you are not parking your tesla in a shady spot. Keep the overheat protection on. The tablet in the middle does not like going over 120 degrees.
I don't think this is correct for more modern Teslas. In the manual it says that cabin overheat protection is solely to protect pets or kids that may be left in the car and that high temperatures have no effect on the components of the vehicle.
13:37 Not sure where you got your info, but cabin overheat without AC will absolutely not crack the windows. It will run the fan too cool the cabin without using the AC compressor.
I don't have the ability to charge at home, but I am fortunate to work somewhere with abundant free chargers. I ran the numbers and realized that, with the recent cratering of used Model 3 prices, it will be slightly cheaper to finance one than to keep driving my _paid-for_ gas car. And that's without factoring in gas prices going back up or major repairs on my old car, both of which are inevitable. It wasn't a hard decision.
At home isnt always cheap. I live in the east SFBA. Its .35c to charge 12am to 3pm. Otherwise its .58c on peak hours. The supercharger near me is at most peak usage time .61c.
Live in an apartment, been commuting in a Jeep grand cherokee for last 6 months cost me 120 bucks a week on average, get my Tesla tomorrow I have a 120 at my apartment i can use to cover most of the commute will top off with super charger
I moved to a condo a year ago, so no home charging anymore, but I am half to 1.5 miles away from 3 public chargers with 10-16 charging stations each. I always charge to 99% . It’s fine. You’re not going to do anything to your battery.
Supercharging is cheaper than home charging in the SF Bay Area. 😬. It’s $0.43 - $0.53 kWh…. and it’s slightly more when you account for the 10 - 20% power lost from wall to battery. The Tesla Mobile Connect is only 80% efficient at Level 1.
1:26 AMEN! If I could not charge at home, I would not be loving my EV experience in my retirement. Perl (2023 sits in my driveway sipping frrom my level 2 charger to keep her charged to about 60%, which is plenty for a spontaneous 90 mile trip to visit my sister, and which I am hoping will be better long term for my battery than essentially cycling the battery a few times per month.
Yeah for me to go 51 kwh on a supercharger it's $22. At home it's $6. Just do it while you're sleeping. By the way, I'm renting and run a Y splitter behind the oven with an extension cord to the window and the tesla mobile charger on the outside. All under a carport. I can be done lol.
I just went on a road trip this weekend in my new 2024 Chevy Equinox EX. I also own a 2020 Chevy Bolt. We all want Superchargers to spring up like gas stations that are on every street corner. While I agree that Supercharger pricing is comparable to ICE fill ups, if there is not a decrease in pricing, adoption could be further delayed. If the cost to fill up, outside ones home, is similar to ICE charging, why would would anyone go to a Supercharger, and hence, why would people build out charging stations. I do remember when Electrify America was around $.23 a kwh in my area. Then....poof...they almost tripled overnight. If anyone is wondering, Electrify America sprung up due to VW and their diesel gate. It was their penance for their trickery. I would think that Uncle Same had a deal with VW to keep it low for a certain period of time. I personally charge at home the majority of the time, but for stations to spring up and for folks to use them, they must be cheaper.
Charging the vehicle is the biggest obstacle for the majority of car owners to own an EV. It is far more convenient to simply drive to the local filling station and in 5 minutes refill your car. No worries about range anxiety, locating a charger, having the correct electrical set up for using a charger, battery charge management, etc. Until recharging becomes as easy just pulling up to a gas pump and selecting which grade of gas to use, EV sales will continue to plummet. Tesla owners like yourself are very educated on the technology and because you find enjoyment in it, the obstacles are not a problem for you.
By the by, EV sales are NOT plummeting, as reported by Exxon et al. And yes, it requires some smarts to get the entire EV 'package' to function. But if a driver cannot think this thru, he should burn his license and take the bus
I believe you are talking about NIO’s battery swapping stations/networks. It only takes about 3-5 min to get the battery swapped, fully automatic, and you are then good to go on a full (92-93%) battery. I’ve been enjoying driving a NIO ES8 for about half a year when I visit China, and the battery swapping technology is just sooooo convenient. And most importantly, I don’t have to worry about my battery degradation or damage, and I can upgrade the standard 75kWh battery to a long range 100kWh for road trip, or even a 150kWh one anytime if needed. However, I doubt the US and Canada government will ever let NIO enter the NA market 😂
Thanks for the video🤙🏽 I live in an apartment, no place to charge here at my complex…The Walmart down the road has a charging station, a Tesla model y would be cool to own, but doesn’t sound practical.
It's not the gauge of the wire you plug into the wall that matters, it's your houses wiring that matters. It doesn't matter if you get a 10 or 12 gauge wire if your house has 14-3
I have a Level 2 home charger from Tesla. My company provides a fast leve 3 charger I use predominantly. I pretty much drive for free, unless taking a long trip. I personally still wouldn’t own a EV if I couldn’t get home charging.
Some of your pricing stats are waaay off ( can tell you are an electric guy for a few years). The price of a big SUV/ Truck is like $120 to 180 to fill up. Price of gas for most Tesla owners in their states (Cali and NY) is like $5.50 per gallon. Electric, and more specifically home charging is the only way to go!
Im my part of Massachusetts, it’s cheaper to public charge than it is to charge at home. My home electric rate is 55 cents /kw after fees. I only charge at public chargers for this reason.
I’m retired and do a lot of short trips. How do Tesla’s do with lots of short trips, generally with max speeds at 45mph or less? Do they get more miles / kWh?
Actually this is my situation - and you get more range because of all the regenerative braking on those local trips!! It’s awesome. I wish I had gotten mine years ago
I have two superchargers that are more economical to charge at vs home charging (thanks to SDGE being expensive) that are less than 2 miles away (one to the West and the other to the East) so it was a no brainer to pay to get that 1337 performance from a Model Y with Acceleration Boost. I typically drive 6-10 miles a day so it hardly breaks the bank.
I personally HATE Chargepoint. Every single time I have used them they are either broken and don’t charge or charge so slow and are not worth the price at all. It’s very unfortunate as they are more prominent in my city but conversely I LOVE EVGO, they are seamless and I’ve never once had any issue with them. Volta is even better as they are free! Granted not a fast charger but not pitifully slow either
If you need to get a 12 or 10 gauge extension cord and you don’t have a Home Depot or Lowe’s card get there sign up for the credit card and get a huge discount like 10 or 12 bucks for the extension cord and then when you pay it off, throw it away
I’m in sales traveling maybe at least 200 miles per day. Currently in an apartment with charging. Have an auto plan that includes mileage reimbursement. Love the fuel and maintenance savings, and performance. Good or bad idea to get a Tesla?
Probably getting a Tesla before getting the L2 charger. I have the mobile connector that will plug into a single outlet 120v circuit. There's also CCS DCFC nearby and a Supercharger about 10 miles away.
I just bought a used 2019 Tesla. It didn't come with a home charger. I'm a bit confused..just want to know what home charger I can buy. Any recommendation?
Hey bro how do you feel the ride from the model y p to the new model 3 p? I have a MYP for the wife but thinking about a m3p for me lol how do you like it?
If anyone thinks they're going to save a lot of money on gas by charging at a Supercharger, think again. I've had to charge every 3 days at about $20 per charge. Big difference compared to overnight home charging for $4. As he said, I wouldn't own an electric car if I couldn't charge at home. Also note a Tesla won't let you charge at home if the outlet isn't properly grounded.
Hey brother. My wife bought me a 24 model y for my bday as a surprise. Awesome but problem is we have a 40 year old house without any recent electrical updates. Will the mobile charger to a regular wall outlet be my best bet until I upgrade my home electrical ?thanks!
I have some info on that but PLEASE check with a licensed electrician just to be safe. We’re picking up our model Y tomorrow and we also live in an old house. I believe it was built in the 50’s We had our electrician come out to see what our options are for supercharging. He told us that since our basement is finished and the box is on the opposite side of the house to our driveway he’d have to install a line going from the basement up and around the house. This would be 1000’s ( this is for supercharging) he was honest with us and said we can just use the normal outlet to charge no need to upgrade for that. So the 120v in our garage is enough in his opinion. Obviously this is the slowest option but at no extra cost. Hope this helps 😊
I don't have a gas station or even a gallon of gas for any mower on hand in my garage. How is that any different? Also roads around me are 80-85 , so how does that speed affect battery life and range? No one ever mentions driving that speed.
An electric car without access to home charging makes no sense from an economic point of view. It costs 2 and sometimes 3 times more than a petrol car to charge. Insurance is more expensive which no one talks about. But no one forbids anyone, everyone does what they like, it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, just to be satisfied what do you drive...
7:22 is a good point but I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be using a standard outlet to charge my car especially with how much it can rain here if not protected
Not sure if anyone could answer this, but I have a 3 prong dryer plug perfectly placed in my garage already and I am looking into buying a model y. There’s adapter to convert it to a 4 prong dryer plug so I can use the mobile connector. Do you think this would affect the efficiency or be a fire hazard?
A better late than never answer. YES, use the dryer plug with the EVSE [charger}. Grizzl-E chargers {EVSE is the correct term} company makes such devices, and there are several different types of 'dryer plugs' so be sure to get the one that fits. I had a 03 prong plug used for a welder in my garage which I used until I got a dedicated EVSE
Charging a tesla is cheap! I pay less than $20 everytime i charge my tesla y more specifically to be exact $16 every time i charge to 80% my tesla. Also my car insurance is not expensive also. Im with NJM n im only paying $160/month of course that depends on what kind of a driver r u n the neighborhood u park ur tesla. Positive things owning an EV is zero oil change, filters and zero emission inspections. Thats less thousands of dollars maintenence costs for the life of ur ownership n gas expenses.
Eventually recharging electric vehicles will be as if not more expensive as ICE cars simply because it is "what the market will bear". In other words: price gouging and the invisible hand of the "free market". Just look at how net metering pricing has collapsed since more and more folks installed solar panels. It is the old bait and switch.
@JremiahJones hey so I just bought my 2024 model 3 but I’m a merchant mariner so I’m gone for 4-5 months at a time. Do you think I should leave my car plugged in while I’m gone or just let it sit in rest mode. I also bought the Tesla car cover but will that prevent dash from cracking?
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My job has free charging so we only go to super chargers when we are lazy and haven’t been to the office in a while.
Currently at
charged: 675kWh
Spent: $49
Gas equivalent: $332
Savings: 283
Have our 2024 Model 3 for two months now. We're in an apartment and there's a Wawa a couple miles away with superchargers, and a grocery store a couple miles away with a free L2 charger. We're eventually going to buy a mobile connector and just park next to a window and put the plug out and start charging that way. So yes, it can be done.
Imo i can totally get by using the superchargers. The time lost doesn’t affect me at all. I’m more worried about how much using the superchargers that much will affect the battery’s health. But so far it doesn’t seem like a big problem anymore on newer models
I don’t have a home charger, but my town has several Lv.2 chargers with the price set to FREE! & all within a 4 minute walk from my home. After 4 years I’ve noticed no battery degradation from almost never keeping it plugged in.
elaborate ? city-provided ?
How do you find these chargers
I live in a rental apartment with no charging available at home, nor at work. I've had a Tesla Model 3 since 2018. I pretty much exclusively charge at superchargers. I had no noticible degradation of my high voltage battery on my 2018 Model 3 and now with with my new 2024 Model 3, I charge to 100%. Still almost exclusively at supercharger. The only time I get other charging is when camping at electric sites. I plug into t30 trailer plug then or at hotels that have EV chargers. I'm in Canada.
How does it compare to gas? Also in Canada.
@@DamiiDoesGaming I drove a Subaru Impreza before the TM3, driving 40km a day for work cost me upwards and around $50 a week. Driving the same distance in my TM3 cost me about $22 a week, insurance is about the same, and I have no maintenance or service cost like I did with my Impreza. I saved $75 per pay for service and maintenance costs for my Impreza and rarely had any left over for moding my Impreza. I save $65 per pay now, for shits and giggles mods to my TM3. I'm saving a little more now too because of 3 months of free supercharging with my new Tesla. FYI if you're interested in a new Tesla, I can refer you for $1300 off a TM3 or TMY and you'll get 3 months of free supercharging. Just over a month after I got financing, Tesla has 1.99% Financing offer. Boohoo me, but woohoo for new buyers.
@@mickosmile850 I would love that
I was contemplating between the model Y and Grand highlander, what's your take ? any advice ?
Hybrid Grand Highlander
I work from home and just took delivery of my standard 2023 model 3. I’ve had it for a week and I charge it in my garage on the regular level 1 charging outlet. I thought this would be an issue but I’m getting a consistent 5 miles per hour just from my regular outlet. Much better than the 2-3 miles Tesla and others claim. Try it out, you may find your regular outlet works better than expected.
That is what I do. Use about 20% a day and just charge it at night from 80% to 100% everyday (I have the battery that is fine to charge to 100%). I would recommend for anyone doing this to get it checked by an electrician though. One of my outlets had smoke coming out of it because of a wire melting and the load on that circuit. Just cause of old materials. Had to call fire dept lol. Got it upgraded and all fine now though.
I’ve had my model 3 since January of 2023 and live in a condominium complex, luckily I live next to a mall and have a supercharger there but whenever anyone asks if I love my Tesla or how it is to charge I always explain to them that the major benefit is if you charge at home, yes you can use the supercharger but it’s more convenient at home. I also explain how it depends if they do long distance traveling as opposed to someone that travels throughout the city. All these are very important factors that overall should be tied in if you decided to get one.
Currently have a petition in with my HOA to allow us to install 240v outlets in our personal parking spaces in my condo building. I just got my Tesla and can charge at work for free, but I also want to be able to charge at home as well.
Good luck! I’m trying to do the same in my condominium, it’s a pretty big one with lots of guest parking and I mentioned to the president if they would be willing to install at least one or two stations but they’re being a pain and just flat out turning me down.
hoa's are a pain, they charge fire insurance to ensure you dont accidentally light the garage on fire
Would love to know what attracted you to any situation where you have to seek permission to do what you wish with your property. That's like a child making mortgage payments and asking permission to eat a cookie. I'm astounded how people are so willing to forfeit freedom.
@@sonovabeach because not every situation is black and white where people can just openly afford a house instead of a condo. In my situation I’m on my own and saved enough to be able to own a condo instead of a house that would cost me 6x more and triple the mortgage. Many own condos instead because of this similar situation and for the most part it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.
@@sonovabeach I live in a condo. We have an HOA. It’s just a standard part of condo living.
I have a M3 and i use the Level 1 charger at home. I get about 6 miles per hour but it is perfect. I charge every other day to 80%.
My panel was about 50ft away from where I needed the plug. Cost me $1100 to get it installed but worth it. I’m keeping the car and you really need it. Supercharging is 3X the price of home charging
3x in your area* at those rated time of day hours* with your incentives and discounts*
What did you use to charge? Mobile or wall?
i like how you tell it how it is no sugar coating, i still want model y with no home charging lol, i want the lastest tech car too
The Ontario (Canada) government introduced an ultra-low overnight price plan a short while ago. The cost is 2.8 cents / kWh. The peak rate from 4 to 9 pm is a little more (28.6 cents / kWh) but the cost to charge an EV overnight is now really cheap.
I commute to work 5 times a week. About 180 miles round trip.
I have only used superchargers on road trips 😊
I arrive to work with 30% (charge @ 24mi/hr)
Leave work with 80%
Arrive home with 50% (charge @ 4mi/hr)
Leave home to work with 60%
And do it all over again lol
Thank you for being honest! I’m one month into owning my new 2024 Tesla M3 and I just had my home charger installed over the weekend. I would not recommend getting a Tesla if you do not have home charging! No one told me this!
Uk here ... Tried this for a month and it is extremly inconvenient. Now have a charger at home and its so much more convenient
MODEL Y owner here, i only charge at super chargers, zero issues. i drive for uber and lyft so the supercharger network is what keeps my wheels rolling. i kill 2 birds with one stone when i charge on my lunch breaks.
Superchargers wear down the battery faster, as long as you are aware of that.
@@euphoricmonk No, fast charging, also known as DC charging, doesn't seem to degrade EV batteries faster than slow charging. In fact, a study by Recurrent found no statistically significant difference in range degradation between Tesla vehicles that fast charged more than 90% of the time and those that fast charged less than 10% of the time. The study also found that the robust thermal, voltage, and battery management systems in EVs protect their batteries from damage with routine fast charger use.
@@DirkCannon Thanks for copying and pasting exactly what Google AI posted lol
@@euphoricmonk you're welcome
In california where the 40-50 cents per kilowatt at home is more expensive than going to charge up for 18-35 cents per kilowatt
Except if you charge at off hours it’s 13-22 cents per. Only charging at peak hours would cost you 40-50 cents at home.
“If length is a problem… PAUSE” 🤣🤣🤣
haha legit :D
I bought my model X when it came out in 2016. I had FUSC that’s transferable. 8 years of use, I early charged at home. I live in LA, and use public chargers for free or supercharging. I save around $500-$600 a month. Over the life of the car, I’ve saved “according to the tesla app”, $6,000 a year. Overall savings of $49k and I’m gonna transfer my supercharging to a model X plaid next month! Can’t wait!
So the free supercharging is FUSC?
@@GenieFarms yep got it with purchase in 2016. Took delivery of my plaid last week. Transferred no problem. Saved 400 so far.
@@TheFreshPersepctive so is there a way that I could get it without having a previous account? I'm going too see if they can put free supercharging in my contract when I get my Tesla.
@@GenieFarmsif you don’t already have it then you have to wait for offers to come out. Right now for a new S or X they offer free unlimited charging , Full self driving , and premium connection for 3 years for 5k
@@caalmen1522 so I have too choose this instead of the lifetime Supercharging? They said they don't negotiate on the emails but I know there is a way if I really wanted. Is this the best approach to getting a Tesla now especially if I plan on road tripping like crazy?
Great video! I own a Model 3 SR in ATL and I tell people interested in EVs this advice all the time. Don’t get an EV unless you have the ability to charge at home. When I first got my Tesla I supercharged mostly for the first 2 months and It was Very inconvenient. Oddly enough, Tesla has added 2 more superchargers near me since I’ve purchased my M3. But when I got mine the closest charger was 15 mins away. So I had to travel 30 mins combined to charge and of course I’d lose range on my way back home. All I have to do now is plug in overnight and I have a “full tank” every morning, so clutch.
I wouldnt say you shouldnt get an EV if you cant charge at home. I've had my M3 LR for around 4 months now. In that time ive driven around 7000 km and paid for 318 $ of supercharging. In my old petrol car, it wouldve cost me around 1200 $ in gas (in my country) for that same distance, maybe more, given that most of my driving is in the city, where ICE cars are even worse than on longer trips. I've only charged for free when visiting my familiy who have solar panels on their roof. Since the free charging accounts for at max 15-20% of all my charging, the rest being superchargers, i still save an incredible ammount of money by driving my M3, compared to my old ICE car.
Especially if you only have a relatively short commute to work every day, owning an EV without being able to charge at home is no problem. With a commute of in total (there and back) around 30km i have to charge at a supercharger once a week, mostly every two weeks, for around 30 minutes. In that time i get groceries or eat out, so im litteraly "wasting" a 10 minute drive detour to the supercharger once every two weeks after work.
But obviously, if your commute is 100km each way, owning an EV doesnt make sense if you cant charge at home. On the other hand i read, that the average commute for americans is 40 miles a day, meaning it would make sense for most people to own an EV anyways.
I purposefully bought an older 2015 Tesla Model S for my first Tesla from a dealer, not Tesla so I could find one with free unlimited supercharging, I just so happen to find a P85D for 20k so great deal there... I only have 110 at home which was fine for my Volt, but not so great for my Tesla... I still plan to run 220 out to my car port, but I have a supercharger right near my work like about a mile or less away.. so a couple times a week I stop by there after work to fill back up to at least 60% sometimes when I'm super low when I get home I'll use the 110 to get about 30-50 miles overnight but my main charging source at this moment in time is supercharging.
If you have an electric dryer you can plug your tesla into that. Just remember those are almost always 30 amp outlets and you should only charge at 80% of total amps. So when you plug in change the option to 24 amps. Also you can use a Y adapter to have both the dryer and tesla plugged in at the same time. Just don't dry your clothes and charge at the same time.
I just want to chime in on the cabin overheat protection. You are free to turn it off during the winter and on mild summer days. But please if its warm out and you are not parking your tesla in a shady spot. Keep the overheat protection on. The tablet in the middle does not like going over 120 degrees.
If it's a mild or winter day, what benefit IS there for turning off a feature that won't activate anyway? Just leave it on!
I don't think this is correct for more modern Teslas. In the manual it says that cabin overheat protection is solely to protect pets or kids that may be left in the car and that high temperatures have no effect on the components of the vehicle.
13:37 Not sure where you got your info, but cabin overheat without AC will absolutely not crack the windows. It will run the fan too cool the cabin without using the AC compressor.
I don't have the ability to charge at home, but I am fortunate to work somewhere with abundant free chargers. I ran the numbers and realized that, with the recent cratering of used Model 3 prices, it will be slightly cheaper to finance one than to keep driving my _paid-for_ gas car. And that's without factoring in gas prices going back up or major repairs on my old car, both of which are inevitable. It wasn't a hard decision.
Very well explained, I always enjoy listening and learning about Tesla. Your very professional when explaining Tesla .
At home isnt always cheap. I live in the east SFBA. Its .35c to charge 12am to 3pm. Otherwise its .58c on peak hours. The supercharger near me is at most peak usage time .61c.
California in general to charge is crazy
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Live in an apartment, been commuting in a Jeep grand cherokee for last 6 months cost me 120 bucks a week on average, get my Tesla tomorrow I have a 120 at my apartment i can use to cover most of the commute will top off with super charger
I don’t drive a lot and 120 Charger gets you about 3 miles per hour of charge. I tried it and it isn’t work out for me
@@qitstrn I mean i get home around 4Pm and charge for 13 hours that covers the commute.
Jeremiah, you mentioned you took delivery of your new model 3 performance…when can we expect a video on that? Impressions, testing, etc.
I moved to a condo a year ago, so no home charging anymore, but I am half to 1.5 miles away from 3 public chargers with 10-16 charging stations each. I always charge to 99% . It’s fine. You’re not going to do anything to your battery.
Supercharging is cheaper than home charging in the SF Bay Area. 😬. It’s $0.43 - $0.53 kWh…. and it’s slightly more when you account for the 10 - 20% power lost from wall to battery. The Tesla Mobile Connect is only 80% efficient at Level 1.
😂 I drive a base charger and always do that but am trading it in for a model Y on Tuesday
I'm so jealous
I'm in a similar market like this. Is there a forum or website where Tesla owners without a home charger discuss and share their opinions about this?
1:26 AMEN! If I could not charge at home, I would not be loving my EV experience in my retirement. Perl (2023 sits in my driveway sipping frrom my level 2 charger to keep her charged to about 60%, which is plenty for a spontaneous 90 mile trip to visit my sister, and which I am hoping will be better long term for my battery than essentially cycling the battery a few times per month.
Charging with 120v runs around 4-5 mph. I know as I have been doing for over 2 years.
Yeah for me to go 51 kwh on a supercharger it's $22.
At home it's $6. Just do it while you're sleeping.
By the way, I'm renting and run a Y splitter behind the oven with an extension cord to the window and the tesla mobile charger on the outside. All under a carport. I can be done lol.
I just went on a road trip this weekend in my new 2024 Chevy Equinox EX. I also own a 2020 Chevy Bolt. We all want Superchargers to spring up like gas stations that are on every street corner. While I agree that Supercharger pricing is comparable to ICE fill ups, if there is not a decrease in pricing, adoption could be further delayed. If the cost to fill up, outside ones home, is similar to ICE charging, why would would anyone go to a Supercharger, and hence, why would people build out charging stations. I do remember when Electrify America was around $.23 a kwh in my area. Then....poof...they almost tripled overnight. If anyone is wondering, Electrify America sprung up due to VW and their diesel gate. It was their penance for their trickery. I would think that Uncle Same had a deal with VW to keep it low for a certain period of time. I personally charge at home the majority of the time, but for stations to spring up and for folks to use them, they must be cheaper.
Charging the vehicle is the biggest obstacle for the majority of car owners to own an EV. It is far more convenient to simply drive to the local filling station and in 5 minutes refill your car. No worries about range anxiety, locating a charger, having the correct electrical set up for using a charger, battery charge management, etc. Until recharging becomes as easy just pulling up to a gas pump and selecting which grade of gas to use, EV sales will continue to plummet. Tesla owners like yourself are very educated on the technology and because you find enjoyment in it, the obstacles are not a problem for you.
By the by, EV sales are NOT plummeting, as reported by Exxon et al. And yes, it requires some smarts to get the entire EV 'package' to function. But if a driver cannot think this thru, he should burn his license and take the bus
I believe you are talking about NIO’s battery swapping stations/networks. It only takes about 3-5 min to get the battery swapped, fully automatic, and you are then good to go on a full (92-93%) battery. I’ve been enjoying driving a NIO ES8 for about half a year when I visit China, and the battery swapping technology is just sooooo convenient. And most importantly, I don’t have to worry about my battery degradation or damage, and I can upgrade the standard 75kWh battery to a long range 100kWh for road trip, or even a 150kWh one anytime if needed. However, I doubt the US and Canada government will ever let NIO enter the NA market 😂
Thanks for the video🤙🏽
I live in an apartment, no place to charge here at my complex…The Walmart down the road has a charging station, a Tesla model y would be cool to own, but doesn’t sound practical.
It's not the gauge of the wire you plug into the wall that matters, it's your houses wiring that matters. It doesn't matter if you get a 10 or 12 gauge wire if your house has 14-3
I have a Level 2 home charger from Tesla. My company provides a fast leve 3 charger I use predominantly. I pretty much drive for free, unless taking a long trip.
I personally still wouldn’t own a EV if I couldn’t get home charging.
Some of your pricing stats are waaay off ( can tell you are an electric guy for a few years). The price of a big SUV/ Truck is like $120 to 180 to fill up. Price of gas for most Tesla owners in their states (Cali and NY) is like $5.50 per gallon. Electric, and more specifically home charging is the only way to go!
Im my part of Massachusetts, it’s cheaper to public charge than it is to charge at home. My home electric rate is 55 cents /kw after fees. I only charge at public chargers for this reason.
One big advantage you should point out is lower cost of maintenance.
Cold means outside temperature cold, not cold start in the garage cold for tire pressure.
Where I live, home charging is free. They credit the bill back with the amount of kwh that charging consumes.
I generally pay about $0.25/kwh in socal which is still 40-50% cheaper than gas.
Are you charging in Cali for .35/kwatt?
I’m retired and do a lot of short trips. How do Tesla’s do with lots of short trips, generally with max speeds at 45mph or less? Do they get more miles / kWh?
Actually this is my situation - and you get more range because of all the regenerative braking on those local trips!! It’s awesome. I wish I had gotten mine years ago
EVs are the inverse of ICE vehicles. They get much better mileage in the city and much worse on the highway.
I have two superchargers that are more economical to charge at vs home charging (thanks to SDGE being expensive) that are less than 2 miles away (one to the West and the other to the East) so it was a no brainer to pay to get that 1337 performance from a Model Y with Acceleration Boost. I typically drive 6-10 miles a day so it hardly breaks the bank.
I personally HATE Chargepoint. Every single time I have used them they are either broken and don’t charge or charge so slow and are not worth the price at all. It’s very unfortunate as they are more prominent in my city but conversely I LOVE EVGO, they are seamless and I’ve never once had any issue with them. Volta is even better as they are free! Granted not a fast charger but not pitifully slow either
If you need to get a 12 or 10 gauge extension cord and you don’t have a Home Depot or Lowe’s card get there sign up for the credit card and get a huge discount like 10 or 12 bucks for the extension cord and then when you pay it off, throw it away
I’m in sales traveling maybe at least 200 miles per day. Currently in an apartment with charging. Have an auto plan that includes mileage reimbursement. Love the fuel and maintenance savings, and performance. Good or bad idea to get a Tesla?
Yes I’m trying to figure out what the cost is using the charge stations in the bay area but I can’t get a straight answer
Probably getting a Tesla before getting the L2 charger. I have the mobile connector that will plug into a single outlet 120v circuit. There's also CCS DCFC nearby and a Supercharger about 10 miles away.
I used your check list when I picked up my model Y yesterday. It as great. Thank ypu
I just bought a used 2019 Tesla. It didn't come with a home charger. I'm a bit confused..just want to know what home charger I can buy. Any recommendation?
really contemplating the tesla model 3 performance, i can charge at work for free everyday.. is it worth it?? i spend about 250 a week in gas
That would be worth it IMO
Hey bro how do you feel the ride from the model y p to the new model 3 p? I have a MYP for the wife but thinking about a m3p for me lol how do you like it?
Great video. I am yet to book model 3 and these videos are just great and informative.
7:45 well placed pause
I have a public charger I use. Just a 10 minute walk which is good because I enjoy exercising and it's very cheap
How's your electric bill though? thats my only concern. I dont want to put a charger in my home and it runs up my electric bill im already at 203
What tint do you use to match with the back stained glass
know about Long Term Parking like SFO cost?
css as my find on their website and different data elsewhere
If anyone thinks they're going to save a lot of money on gas by charging at a Supercharger, think again. I've had to charge every 3 days at about $20 per charge. Big difference compared to overnight home charging for $4. As he said, I wouldn't own an electric car if I couldn't charge at home. Also note a Tesla won't let you charge at home if the outlet isn't properly grounded.
He said pause lol. Should’ve said no DIDDY!!!
Is froot a better word than frunk?
Hey brother. My wife bought me a 24 model y for my bday as a surprise. Awesome but problem is we have a 40 year old house without any recent electrical updates. Will the mobile charger to a regular wall outlet be my best bet until I upgrade my home electrical ?thanks!
I have some info on that but PLEASE check with a licensed electrician just to be safe. We’re picking up our model Y tomorrow and we also live in an old house. I believe it was built in the 50’s We had our electrician come out to see what our options are for supercharging. He told us that since our basement is finished and the box is on the opposite side of the house to our driveway he’d have to install a line going from the basement up and around the house. This would be 1000’s ( this is for supercharging) he was honest with us and said we can just use the normal outlet to charge no need to upgrade for that. So the 120v in our garage is enough in his opinion. Obviously this is the slowest option but at no extra cost. Hope this helps 😊
The gas prices you compared was that premium because comparable cars aren’t using regular gas
My apartment complex has 2 charging stations and I’m stoked to get mine 😭. Thank you for the informative video
Did your existing center consol and arm rest trays fit in the new one?
I don't have a gas station or even a gallon of gas for any mower on hand in my garage. How is that any different? Also roads around me are 80-85 , so how does that speed affect battery life and range? No one ever mentions driving that speed.
Definitely takes a bit more battery to travel at that speed. Sorry I don’t know the true data but anecdotally I can attest to this 😂
See the "Out of Spec"" videos by Kyle Connor for ALL the data on high speed range and battery 'things'. He is the PRO at this .
I use the supercharging network everyday since i live in a apartment complex. I still manage to save 150-600 dollars
U HAVE A TESLA AND STILL LIVE IN AN APARTMENT????????? THAT GIVES ME HOPE THAT I CAN BE ABLE TO OWN A TESLA AS WELL SINCE I LIVE IN ONE TOO
@@faded.177 yea you can achieve anything man lol
how often do you have to supercharge
would a mobile charger be good until you can get a home charger? as well what about a level 2 charger?
Yes. I drive about 40 miles a day and it definitely takes care of that if I plug in when I get home and unplug when going to work 😎👍🏼
@@a.girl.has.no.name_ you have a level 2 charger? or the 6-20 mobile plug? or one of those type plug.
@@Channel323 I have the level 1 mobile charger from Tesla
2023 model 3 owner home charging overnight works fine.
at 11:00 .. the Hardeeville SC supercharger. Close to I-95 but an odd duck of a set up lol, though they are 250kw
An electric car without access to home charging makes no sense from an economic point of view. It costs 2 and sometimes 3 times more than a petrol car to charge. Insurance is more expensive which no one talks about. But no one forbids anyone, everyone does what they like, it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, just to be satisfied what do you drive...
7:22 is a good point but I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be using a standard outlet to charge my car especially with how much it can rain here if not protected
Well, Duh! protect it then, whats the problem?
I would only add, for anyone that doesn’t have a home charger to carry with them a 50 foot 10 gauge extension cord.
Same
@@a.girl.has.no.name_ An extension cord with a EVSE is a fire risk. "Ask me how I know".
@@harriettanthony7352 even the Tesla travel charger? That has overheat protection?
Not sure if anyone could answer this, but I have a 3 prong dryer plug perfectly placed in my garage already and I am looking into buying a model y. There’s adapter to convert it to a 4 prong dryer plug so I can use the mobile connector. Do you think this would affect the efficiency or be a fire hazard?
A better late than never answer. YES, use the dryer plug with the EVSE [charger}. Grizzl-E chargers {EVSE is the correct term} company makes such devices, and there are several different types of 'dryer plugs' so be sure to get the one that fits. I had a 03 prong plug used for a welder in my garage which I used until I got a dedicated EVSE
@@harriettanthony7352 thanks! I ended up just getting a new 4 prong installed
What year is your tesla?
If, like me, home charging is absolutely not an option in any way, shape or form. Do what I did and get a non plug in hybrid.
Enhauto has a commander that ables to go from chill to sport just pressing the pedal hard .
4:19 the kilowatt hour cost is not double
Charging a tesla is cheap! I pay less than $20 everytime i charge my tesla y more specifically to be exact $16 every time i charge to 80% my tesla. Also my car insurance is not expensive also. Im with NJM n im only paying $160/month of course that depends on what kind of a driver r u n the neighborhood u park ur tesla. Positive things owning an EV is zero oil change, filters and zero emission inspections. Thats less thousands of dollars maintenence costs for the life of ur ownership n gas expenses.
Build quality I noticed you didn't mention as "One of the appeals"...
15:47 okay Tai Lopez LOL🤣
charging at work is a lifesaver for those with no home charging
Eventually recharging electric vehicles will be as if not more expensive as ICE cars simply because it is "what the market will bear". In other words: price gouging and the invisible hand of the "free market".
Just look at how net metering pricing has collapsed since more and more folks installed solar panels. It is the old bait and switch.
Well, there as some free charging here in San Francisco.😊
Home charging is the best.
Why do you have to pay to charge at home?
Just get a Solar Power Station like I did. Free!!!!
@JremiahJones hey so I just bought my 2024 model 3 but I’m a merchant mariner so I’m gone for 4-5 months at a time. Do you think I should leave my car plugged in while I’m gone or just let it sit in rest mode. I also bought the Tesla car cover but will that prevent dash from cracking?
Yes. Leave it plugged in
If people say it's ideal for charging your tesla to 80% for longevity, then why charge it at home effectively always having it at 100%?
You can set a charge limit
*EXCELLENT* video!!!
Eastern Kentucky is a big national forest
For the California homeowners with Solar it’s a Win Win Situation guy’s Pittsburg yahoo
NIO > TESLA BAAS will need to be adopted by all EV makers in the future $$$$$$$$