What's the BEST Gaming CPU - Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs Ryzen 9 7950X3D Vs i9-14900K
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- Which is the BEST CPU currently for gaming? Well let's take a look at the Two top of the line CPUs from AMD, which is the Ryzen 9 7950X3D and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D and then compare that against the Intel i9-14900K. And well there is a clear cut winner!
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My 7800X3D has been flawless. I use DDR5 6400 CL 32 & its amazing ~ Have had ZERO issues in my year of ownership
Nice, I just finished a similar build. I hope the Expo profile works out of the box, lol. I'm currently doing stock benchmarks to see the performance gains from higher speeds, if any. I went with a 48 GB kit with those same MT/s and CL.
@@lsik231l Hey, and if it doesn't, in my experience with 5800x3d, if it translates over, get a different memory kit. Some are just stronger than others. I've even gotten a lower spec'd memory kit do almost as well as a high spec'd memory kit...thought temperature difference of the 2 were quite different!
7800X3d is pretty much a no brainer over here
If you can fetch it around $300 it would be a steal
But the 14900 is only 550 USD, and you can spend a lot more power also (/s)
Where can you get it for 300 please tell me
@@Adreno23421 4 stability im kinda jumping the fence on my 14900k now until they make it great again like 10th gen. Now since i have nt touched AMD since the fx8530 series and after looking at this im a half research kinda guy/ serious gamer . leaning towards 7950x after looking at this vid for me.. anyhow. I play games @ 4k whenever i can @ 240ghz.w HDR off since asus monitors look better with it off.
@@brennanlaurent4748 some microcenters do something like $400 bundle for 7800x3d + motherboard
you can always wait for prime deals or black friday
@@brennanlaurent4748 maybe they mean used? 🤣wow, nvm. even on ebay im still finding as cheap as 330. may as well buy from somewhere reputable new. just an extra 30-40 anyways.
Just upgraded my Ryzen 5 1600 to a 5800X3D and have zero regrets. Before that I had a Phenom 960T which served me well until I moved to the AM4 socket. I'm 100% sticking with AMD going forwards as the extended support for the same socket type offers the type of drop in upgradeability that Intel will never offer - they would rather force you to do a full systems refresh each time (moar profit).....!
what did you do with the phenom? retire it? sell it?
@@betag24cn still got it along with the mobo and sli certified RAM in the loft. Hell, my Amiga 500 plus games are still up there 🙂
Damn bro. And I thought a 2600X to 5800X3D was good. That's quite the step up. What GPU u paired that silicon firebolt with?
@@Draksyl Amiga 500..... so good. 🍻
@@Draksyl Keep it , it will be worth something one day, I have Phenom X4 9950BE , Phenom II X4 965 , Phenom II X6 1090BE , FX8350 in my collection :D
I recently bought a whole new system, and for the first time ever I went AMD for the CPU. I got a R9 7900X3D, X670 board, 64GB Ram and a RTX 4070 Ti Super and I am loving it. 😊
Nice!
Congratulations on your new system
@@user-tc4tz8ww1z Thank you. 😊
Your wallet probably didn't love it lol.
@@johnnydied9563
the only gaming cpu here is 7800x3d and it is the best 😆
just if you have 4090
4090 its a critical convention
He has a point. The other two CPUs are in a completely different class, they are for mix use, gaming and heavy productivity. Making this kind of a pointless comparison.
@RiseAndThrive0.1 The performance in this video is misleading as he is running tests on an unstable cpu! Plus, once you tune your intel cpu and ram, the gains are relevant, but you will need a 280mm aio or better!
Depends on the price and if your favourite games utilize the 3D cache.
Personally I got the 13700k back yonder because it was $300 AUD cheaper + has extra cores for my workload.
Where I live, you can buy 7800x3d and a decent motherboard for the price of 14900k alone.
same over here, more than decent actually (sweden)
it's the case anywhere you live. There is no reason to ever go Intel unless you need those extra cores and high core speed for productivity purposes
@@cks2020693or 7950x3d? no point in switching to intel as it's dying 😂
I got a 5800x3D and honestly I just wanted to finally get a CPU that wasn't used or low end. I went from AMD A6 5400K > Athlon 860k > Ryzen 3 1200 and now finally Ryzen 7 5800x3D. As you can expect the jump from the performance compare to my previous cpu was nuts! I don't think I need to upgrade now for a long time and that's what I wanted!
i have good memories from my 860k, i gave it to my nephew and he still uses it for basic stuff and old games, it was supercheap and really good
i went from FX 6300 > I7 3770 > R7 5800x . I got my 5800x right before it was rumoured the x3d was thought to become a thing. Still happy with my CPU not going to upgrade for a long time.
@@betag24cn Hey another person who had a 860k! Awesome! Us Athlon owners weren't all that common during a era where people had Intel or even FX cpu huh..?
It really was a great option for us people on a super budget tho. Gave us moderate performance which was good enough!
It's cool that you gave it to your nephew. It's better then giving him a budget laptop that has a celeron cpu. I would have stuck with mine if it weren't the fact it burnt out from overclocking. I put some serious stress on that poor cpu.
@@awesomewav2419 You made a lot of good choices when it came to buying CPU.
I wish I had the FX 6300 or i7 3770 tbh but they weren't cheap enough for me.
R7 5800X still is a beastly CPU so I can imagine it lasting for like over 7 years. for sure.
I was actually thinking about buying the 5800x until I decided to pay a bit more for the 5800x3D. Honestly a bit overkill for me but I find that fun.
Sempron>Athlon 2> Phenom 1. Then to 2600X & later a 5800X3D. It felt like going from HDD to SSD boot disk all over again. Even with a 2060. Games were silky AF.
Got a 7800X3D last month to replace an i7-8700, went from having dips in the 30s with 33% GPU usage in Helldivers 2 to rock solid 90 and always GPU bottlenecked.
Great CPU!
Got a 7950X3D, built the rig last week (upgrade from a 5900X), cause it's the best ^^
Still running a 5800x3d. Waiting to see what AMD bings next to AM5
Just out of curiosity what cpus did u have previously ?
Same here man. have it paired up with my 3080ti 12gb they make a great pairing and it breaks the doors off 1440p.
@@Personalinfo404 paired my with a 7800xt 16GB
@@EastyyBlogspot is this some purity test? I had a 3900x that I upgraded from, direct drop in. Before that I had a with a 9900k, before that I had a 6700k and before that I had a 4790k and before that I had a FX 8350 and before that I had a I7 890 back in 2009 when I started college.
Wait for AM6.
!LMFAO Peanuts Envy. Enjoyed the tip about enabling the Cache, huge selling point for those chips is cache.
I have that PSU tester, great stuff, highly recommended 🔥🚀
After Intel's stability issues and the silicon degradation you could argue that a AMD vs Intel comparison is superfluous...
forget about all the AMD gpus breaking?? all the cpus and motherboards blowing up.. or the massive recall... funny... must be a bot.. or AMD fanboy
@@OverClockingPersonalComputers we are talking about cpu not gpu. Im not a fan boy of amd but for real intel cpu is bad
@@dancarlotorres5666 read what i said or again are you a bot?
@@OverClockingPersonalComputers Only fanboy here is you?What amd gpu's are breaking all i hear is nvidia conector melting problems that can literally set you PC on fire.Also we are talking about CPU's here and AMD is simply better then Intel no contest.
we got another one!!!!
I've had a pretty good gaming experience on my 7950x3d aside from getting TWO defective motherboards in a row. One MSI and one ASUS. Once I got things up and running the performance has been great and the user experience has been fine. I've only had time to play some games in my library but the performance in game has been exceptional so far. I haven't had to mess with anything for core affinity. Game bar has mostly been doing its job handling that for me. Its paired with an RTX 4090 and 64GB of 6000MHz CL 30-36-36-36-96 ram and it has no issues except in Elden Ring which I am convinced is cursed because it randomly hitches on every PC I own. I gave up troubleshooting that game because every single other game I have runs flawlessly. Elden ring loves to hitch about 1-3 times an hour but I'm convinced it is the game not my rig at this point.
One small advice, use cs2 benchmark map, it will be more precise and it's ez.
Process Lasso for 7950x3d and preffer frequency cores, is a must for this CPU. I'm really happy with it, but I always recommend everyone to get 7800x3d for ease of use.
But "regular guy" just opens a box and "drops" 14900k into motherboard... 😂😂
Xbox game bar th-cam.com/video/4wdQpVcL_a4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Until I see my 5800x3d AM4 platform bottlenecking games to under 60fps, I'm willing to upgrade. Only the GPU get's upgraded.
You got a year or 2 if you play newer games. Already several games that struggle with 60+ on CPU 58x3d. Badass chip though.
@@christophermullins7163 What games?
got 7600x, because upgrading and going high end on gpu first would give more performance in everything.
Its all about the display you want to push in the games you play TBH but that cpu is about as fast as old X3D.
I am rocking I9 7940x(12c/24t) on Asus Gaming E mobo with 64Gb DDR4 2800Mhz that's oldish X299 Platform that I get myself recently for a good price(all of this cost me 350€) I paired this with the 6900XT and I am very satisfied with performance so far as I am usually playing games on 4K 60Hz sometimes on 1440p...so far so good..........
That CPU is definitelly bottlenecking the 6900XT.
@@Menjac Hmm no not really maybe in some 1080p benchmarks here and there but as I said I am not playing anything in 1080p mostly just in 4k so it's all good......
@@KOAP33 Times have changed man.
Even today i3's scores higher than i9 9900k. Better CPU results in better performance at 4K. Also the 6900 XT is not really a 4k card (Proof: I have 6900 XT too)
@@Menjac Srry but seems like you don't know exactly what are you talking about.....in higher resolution like 4k the pressure is on GPU so it's most likely that GPU is going to be a bottleneck no matter what kind of CPU you get(maybe only some very ancient) that's why when you look CPU comparison from youtubers you will almost always see that are in 1080p sometimes maybe even in 1440p but no one will do it in 4K because it will be no difference at all or at best 1-2 fps......
right after your video yesterday I bought the "newer" version of the Power Supply tester, cost $11 AUD including postage,
I have the AMD Ryzen 9 7900 X3D, its good, I am very happy with it :)
I'm wanting to upgrade my cpu from the Ryzen 7 3800X, just not sure if I should focus on gaming performance or get something better for productivity. I tend to game more than make videos, so the 5800X3D would be a great choice, but having the option with the 5950X is still tempting. Alternatively, I could always wait to see what the next generation of cpus brings us. Decisions, decisions.
if you set the 7950x3d to let driver decide instead of cache, using xbox game bar does this for you, no bios changing needed. if a game is running on the wrong cores, you can go to the setting for the application, and set as game in xbox game bar. I have one an don't run into issues, unless its me being dumb. The only thing is if you try to increase the frequencies in the bios, it will make the theoretical speed of the Vcache CCD the same speed and make everything run the that until they are full.
🤣 The enlargement crack was pretty good bro!!! One of the best lols you got outta me yet.
Brian, Thanks just saw you answer the PSU tester question I had, really appreciate the response mate!
I dont use my PC for any productivity, and I've been a gamer for 25+ years, I've built PCs myself, and I just builta new one last month with 7800X3D.
This was the first time I switched from Intel to AMD CPU, let me say this, I'm upset I didn't do it sooner. Previously I had a 11900K with a cheap motherboard, the 11900K was running 15-20% worse than expected stock score because the motherboard cannot deliver the voltage it needs, I had to undervolt and manually set all the other values to just make it run stock, the 240mm AIO I had was also struggling to cool it at high core speed.
With 7800X3D, it draws so little power/voltage, I don't need an extravagant motherboard to make it run well, 240mm AIO for cooling is pretty much an overkill after undervolting it with no performance loss
Upgrading from i7 9700f to 7800x3d and from 2060 super to 4070 super. Would that be sufficient enough for 360hz? Asking cause you said you are a gamer for 25+ years.
@@crystaltytk3900 for what resolution and what game?
@@cks2020693 1080p for Valorant, Rocket league, Fortnite.
My previous PC - Ryzen 1500x, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1080 from 2018 to my actual one in 01/2023: i7 13700kf, 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30, RX 7900 XTX. Back in January 2023 I decided to go with i5 13600kf and not with 5800x3d, because in this case intel was the better overall performance in gaming and workloads - 7800x3d was not released yet. Later I got an offer for i7 13700kf for a very good price, that is why I got the i7 now and sold the i5. From todays perspective the 7800x3d is the best in gaming and if the CPU would be released earlier, I would go with AMD in any case. The i7 13700kf is a performance beast and also very good in gaming. However in this generation I stick with Intel, because i7 13700kf vs 7800x3d is not massive performance difference in gaming in 4k 120hz.
14900K bought of ebay, was delidded and paid GBP 340 which I thought I would never win but surprised when I did...No issues at all as I am running it with a mild undervolt so boost is capped at 5.6GHz all core and 4.4GHz on the e-Cores...320w limit. Temps at max load are in the high 80's thanks to a 360 AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer III and the delid with a Cinebench R23 multicore test hitting a fraction over 41K. Workloads are mixed with encoding, edditing, etc and some gaming like MS Flightsim and Assetto Corse on the sim racing side. Very happy but I never leave voltage to motherboard auto as I know from experience that they allways push to much vcore which is just not required. Learned from you on the GPU side with regards to undervolting!!!
Still on main 12900KF 4090, raids like a champ. Everything is performing great but AM5 surely would be the choice today. I scored great deals when I built but I'm not touching the newer i7/i9s with game instability issues. Everything is running great on Steam with Nobara Linux 39 (KDE), though I still have spare Windows installs around 10/11, don't miss 11. Have a 7800XT and 7900XTX this gen, probably should have spent extra to go AM5 last year but oh well. I can carry my DDR5 forward and well 7800X3D is a great cpu here, 7950X3D if only both CCDs had 3D vcache, if there's a 9950X3D with that, that would be amazing.
If both ccds had 3d vcache it would perform as well at multitasking, and it didn't improve the gaming amd said. U can handle games with the xbox game bar though th-cam.com/video/4wdQpVcL_a4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Brian!
For 7950x3D , you need to make sure that the game is ONLY using the x3D chip. This way, it can be faster than 7800x3D
Here's how. Prior to game launch, you need to manually assign which CPU Threads the game will run on. But in this video, it seems that you leave it at default.
This is because not all Physical cores inside 7950x3D is connected to the 3DV-Cache . So when you manually assign the game to run on the Cores that can access 3DV-Cache, all other background tasks are automatically using the regular Cores. So it will be faster than 7800x3D
Yes I'm talking about all games
How can you do this manually? For example, MW3? I have a 7800x3d and a 7950x3d (I am planning to sell it because the performance was not like the 7800x3d, etc.).
@@ihabentabli you solved it yet? Sorry for late reply
@@niezzayt3809 hey im having issues can you go more in depth
Is this using something like Process Lasso to handle the Core/Affinity assignment for games ?
Task Manager can do this, but most people forget to switch it manually as you have to go in each time to change it. Something like Proc Lassoo is more automatic, and handles priority/IO and pushes background tasks into more aggressive idle states. I've seen it used for setting/moving Spotify / TH-cam and web browsers into Idle/Efficiency, tagging games into a power profile automatically, so games get a Freq Boost properly.
Apparently you can also set up a command line / shortcut to the game, using "Start /affinity 4B Game.exe" as long as you know/calculate which mask value matches your CPU's cores. You can also run the same using Nirsoft Nircmd, which can apply an affinity change to active programs, i.e. setting up a batch file or shortcut to run the command manually after the game launches.
@@Toliman. you are correct
The best part of the video was the last 3 minutes! TYC gives you all the information and then puts everything in context.
Setting games to 1080p on ultra settings tells you everything you need to know about gaming in 2024. My recommendation for choosing gaming system would be to start with the monitor's resolution and refresh rate. Once that is done, add 20% (for a bit of future proofing) and select your graphics card. The rest of the components just need to keep the graphics card fed. Again, this is just for a gaming system.
still using a 5600x that's keeping my rtx4090 down like a fat kid on a slide.
7800x3d is £300 in the uk, I’ve just upgraded to it, at that price it’s an absolute no brainer especially for games like rust which are cpu intensive
I built my latest PC for 1440p high refresh rate gaming (7800x3d, 4080 super, 48GB ddr5-6400 CL 32). But, given the hardware potential and plans on getting the 5090 when it drops, I just decided to replace my monitor from 27in 1440p 165hz to 32in 4k 240hz. Now I am wondering if I should have chosen a non-3d vcache cpu that scales better with memory... would probably have been better for other things given 4k gaming is mostly GPU limited. Oh well, I can upgrade to a Zen 5 cpu if its worth it. We'll see. Or, be set for a number of years given I won't be CPU bottlenecked for 4k gaming.
How would the 7950X3D with the non-3D cache CCD completely disabled in BIOS perform in games compared to the 7800X3D?
same or slight better, i’m talking like 0.1 percent better better
A bit better in games that use the vcache x3d, and way better in games that don't use the x3dvcache but favorise the frequency
If you are primarily a gamer as I am... you already know how this is going to end up. Now if only AMD could be so competitive on the GPU side!
I mean they are if you consider the performance raytracing get you and why you might want more frames instead and real native frames at that!
@@BlackJesus8463 Far from competitive on GPUs...
@@BlackJesus8463AMD sooo far behind Nvidia, but their CPUs are the best, will gladly buy a AMD GPU once they offer a competitive product.
@@mintymus they are if you don't care about raytracing which is why people buy AMD GPUs. plus they are way cheaper the Nvidia
to be fair most people who get AMD GPUs don't care about raytracing and and just upscale without raytracing
Great segment Bryan! Patiently waiting for the reviews of the 15900k paired with the RTX 5090..
*Intel Core 9 Ultra 190
i9-14900K extremely power hungry, instability issues and it is a dead platform with no more support and loses to the cheaper 7800X3D most of the time. The Ryzen 7 7800X3D has a great price, very efficient and easy to cool, AM5 will definitely have many more generations of CPUs. The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the best of both worlds for a price increase, it is great for workstation applications and amazing at gaming, for enthusiasts, and comes with the future proof AM5 socket and draws less power than the i9
Current Intel chips are duds
14900k should be manually overclocked anyway if you’re buying that chip, which would solve the instability problems.
6 core Zen5 cpu enters the ring at the fraction of the cost in 3 2 1 😅.
@@Felale Exactly, all these videos that test 14900K with out of the box settings are useless
@@Felale which means that i9's are not even for avg. consumers if they require you to void warranty by default
and processor should not ask for extensive settings tuning in 21st century to guarantee stability
so in general high end 14th gen is a waste of silicon and should not have been either produced or intel should have accepted defeat and ensured that their CPU's are 100% stable from factory
Great Video, but I will be giving into these PC overlords anytime soon.
I have no issue with my 5900X
So I guess you won't be giving into the PC overlords?
@@MarcoGPUtuber Alert the typing police have entered the room!
Another great one bro! I think this confirms my opinion of buying what is the best deal for you. I applaud the person who can tell 100fps from 120 fps. Intel's problem is power and underclocking is your friend for which my man here has a great guide . Fanboyism over products is for kids (which admittedly I too was once). BTW I rocked AMD for 20 years. Currently rocking an underclocked 12700k . Peaks at 130w under multithreaded cinebench, never seen it go above 80w for my daily workloads. For reference My R53600x before that regularly hit 90-100w under same loads with much less throughput. Got the board and the cpu at a killer value and that closed the deal. I intend to ride it out for a couple more gens
Just built my first PC for my son and combined a 7800x3D with 7900 GRE, 32gb 6400 MHz CL32 for a great combination without being overkill and overpriced for 1k more on a 4090 as it's used for 1440 240hz monitor. I think its future proofed for next 5 years but maybe upgrade GPU when next gen of GPUs are released. Without over clocking it performs great. It's a $2.7k AUD build ($1.8k USD) cost overall.
I'm keen to upgrade from my 10850k to a Ryzen x3D CPU however I want at least 12 cores not 8, I know it's probably not a big deal in comparison to my current CPU performance wise. Hoping the new 9000 series x3d chips come soon and offer a great improvement (Ideally 3d Cache on two CCD's). Here is to hoping!
I got a few of them $250 each on aliexpress sale, flipped them into PC for good profit, kept one for myself.
It's so damn good.
also I'd avoid CPU-TOP store. the store ships stuff just fine, but they report price correctly so I was charged with import duty.
I would go for stores like SJ or comet
You shouldn't need to force the prefer cache option on the 7950X3D because the driver will do that for games in conjunction with Xbox Game bar when a game is detected or manually flagged. The need for that driver is autodetected when you install the chipset drivers and have the R9 installed at the time. If you just swapped the R7 out for the R9, you would've never installed that driver in the first place. Forcing it in the BIOS just makes everything use the X3D CCD resulting in every other lightly threaded task being 8-12% slower.
Munched my knee so I'm spending this summer indoors. Picked up a 7700k and board combo locally for 75 bucks. This will be my first gaming PC since cyberpunk launched.
Great comparison Bryan thank you
Not even 35k in r23? I get more than 37500 with my aircooled 7950x3d...
I am still running a 9900K, Looking at both 7950X and the new 14th Gen I9 for content creation but with Heat and instability issues I see im not sure what to get :D
I got a 7800x3d last week 345$ usd
paired with what gpu?
@@sc9433 7900xt from sapphire
@@sc9433 7900xt pulse from sapphire
same but 2 weeks ago on amazon for $345, paired with neo z 6000 cl30, asrock b650e taichi lite and 4080 super with 1000w psu, runs amazing
@@sc9433 i paired mine with a power color radeon rx 7900xt
All these tests does prove something, everthing depends on software optimization. These beast CPUs actually still too powerful for all the new games today...
Did you use intel baseline profile for testing ?
8700k still running strong in 2024. Built this for a fair price in 2018, what a great long lasting setup.
those cinebench scores must be stock settings i get 42186 on i9 14900ks and i seen someone had a score over 45000
My son wants me to build him a 7800x3d based gaming pc. However having a quick youtube there seems to be loads of stuff about it frying and some Asus compat issues. Has this been sorted and is it safe to use this chip to build around. I trust my self to build well but I really need a fool proof chip. Thanks for advise.
Yes it was sort it out long time ago. Also if you buy motherboard I would recommend MSI or ASRock
Still rocking my 5800x3d tuned + 4090 and have no issues in 1440. Skipping 7800x3d and probably gonna take 9800x3d or if intel shows smth interesting that would be supported for a long time - would consider that.
What is your ambient temperature? Your temps seem a bit high considering the utilization. I have 14900K and in BF 2042 mine hovers around 45% utilization and 70 degrees
7900x3d is now the best. It's $329 right now in america. It's $10 cheaper than even the 7800x3d now thanks to all the hate lol.
Yeah it only lasted 1 day at that price sadly
Maybe I have missed it, but have you used the new base/default settings for the 14900k with lowered power limits?
Hello Brian, is it prudent to invest in a "new" CPU at this moment when upcoming models are on the horizon? These forthcoming CPUs are expected to integrate features tailored for AI tasks that current models lack. While some heavy AI tasks will still rely on GPUs, some may be optimized for CPU processing, benefiting budget-friendly laptops and PCs with integrated graphics.
Lately, there's been a noticeable price reduction in the latest CPUs, which seems like a strategy to clear stock before the next leap in technology. Features such as enhanced AI capabilities in gaming, video editing, and system navigation could render older CPUs obsolete/undesirable, hence the push to sell them at lower prices now.
Thanks.
I recently went from i7 9700k to 7800x3d, knowing that am5 will support at least 2 more generations. I'd say buy now, and if there is a big enough difference in performance and efficiency in the upcoming cpus, then you can decide if you want to buy it or not
if i were going for a new platform, now, i wouldnt go for anything lower that the 7800x3d, if the price is low enough, perhaps is a good idea if you find a deal
knowing that future cpus will focus in stuff i dont need or want like ai cores or pci express 5.0, new cpus from here on in at least 4 years do not matter much to me tbh
One question what is your Infinity Fabric?
I'm running the 5700x3d love it. When I upgrade I'm going am5 all the way
I recently upgraded from i5 13600k to i7 14700k which wasn't necessary based on my needs I just wanted the best CPU of current generation as i9 has instability issues. I'm happy with the purchase but the only thing I dislike about i7 is that it consumes way more power and generates a lot of heat so cooling is an issue. So I've manual undervolt(0.9mV) and underclocked(5.2 GHz) to get better results...
smart man, i kept my i7 at 5ghz
@@nivea878 also undervolt for cooler and quieter operations...
next video for the economics update ?
549 vs 339 usd, way less power consumption. If you consider price this is not even a competition... common... wtf. It's like the motherboard comes free...
not gona lie im more intrested to see what bios settings you use to have those temps in check lol my 7800x3d with a Lian Li Galahad II Trinity Performance is easely getting arround 70C to a max of 81C depending what im doing
one which lets you spend more on gpu
The differences of fps on all these is so minimal though that you wouldnt really notice them on screen while gaming. Buy what you want imo and maybe save money. These are differences your eyes can perceive on screen anyways.
Love the Shingo Nakamura background tunes.
Best CPU as of now is 7950X3D.
7800X3D loses in some modern titles.
14900K is a joke compared to these X3D's.
In terms of gaming of course but if you are an Intel fanboy
and want to pay more and draw more power knock yourself out.
I have to say 7950X3D is still power efficient and sits right in the
middle between 7800X3D and 14900K but you get twice more multi
core performance vs 7800X3D useful for streamers, video editors etc.
Haven't bought a CPU yet? wondering if to go with 7800X3D
or 7950X3D or perhaps the next gen Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 CPU's ?
I would personally wait because Zen 5 is going to release soon,
by soon I mean in the next 3-4 months and X3D's in 2025 April/May.
Ryzen 9000 will without doubt have slightly more cache and higher
clocks but if you wonder if they will beat the previous gen X3D, YES!!
5800X3D is equivalent to 7700X and 7800X3D is equivalent of 9700X.
While 9900X will beat the 7800X3D by 25-40 fps and newest X3D's
well those will be much higher frames then 7800X3D/14900K.
Keep in mind Arrow Lake is coming out too and it will beat Zen 5
aka Ryzen 9000 but it won't beat the Ryzen 9000 X3D's especially 9950X3D.
9950X3D is rumored to have twice more cache and is on both CCD's.
Eventually rest of the benchmarks will be neck and neck gaming wise,
other tasks/applications might run faster on Arrow Lake but here is the
thing why would anyone buy Intel when AMD offers better efficiency/performance..
Number don't lie too high power draw CPU in 2024 is a shame, I do
still pick a slightly slower performance CPU with being twice more efficient.
ANYDAY!
"I didn't want to change the settings to make the game work" followed by "I had to change the bios settings to make the fps better" Make the playing field even, either go into bios, or don't.
I would say, the best gaming CPU is one that works in all games. So that makes th competition down to two. The 7800X3D is clearly best Value for gaming, and maybe has better performance due to all 8 cores in one CCD chiplet (less latency than two chiplets). But the 7950X3D is still twice the CPU cores in total, so has twice the compute capability, if you also need superb workstation performance.
Still on AM4 running the Ryzen 9 5950X and I'm happy gaming away without any issues.
I have a 8086k and looking to upgrade...but people saying to go to am5 but the pricing is a bit much a decent cpu and a decent motherboard with enought sata slots and then ddr5 memory, part of me thinks am4 ...save money on memory as can use my own, a decent motherboard and a massive upgrade with 5800x3d and while it may limit upgrades i only tend to upgrade every 4 to 5 years
if you really like intel, get a i5 or a i7 and you will be fine, avoid all i9, it is a total disaster
as a amd fanboy, if you can go for the 7800, you will be just fine for at least 4 years, if not more
So wait you won't go into bios and change settings for Intel 14900k because you want to show the out of box experience because that's what your fans are likely to do. Yet you admit you go into the BIOS and change the setting for the 7950x3d... Please explain how that is not a bit hypocritical??
Me chilling with an undervolted 13900KF : (insert ICarly's Interesting meme)
how much voltage that u was able to offset?
Same here. I could only muster +200Mhz on my 13700k so figured I'd just undervolt and run the fans at 40-50% instead. Dropped 60W in all-core workloads and in gaming I've yet to see it go above 110W.
10% bios decrease in performance hitting right in the CPU
No contest. 7800x3d. Helldivers does not and never did require an account. They walked back on something that was clear from the beginning because people couldn't read and got mad lol. Your cooling is interesting. i use a basic cooler master 240mm aio and i see max temps of like 75c in cinebench. Gaming i sit in the 50s. sometimes 50 c flat. Using pbo and curve optimizer -30 all core. 18600+ r23 scores.
As of today, none of players who bought HellDivers 2 in a country where PSN is blocked, can get into the game.
Like ever.
Go ahead and prove me wrong
All these reviews should be followed with
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I dont care that the cray2 supercomputer is the best if it costs 1 trillion.
I have a 7800X3D running on a B650 MB and slapped a spare AM3 air cooler on it, Gammax something or other. Temps are perfect.
Pretty great. dont have to upgrade PSU or cooling or anything stupid.
Plus saved cash by using 5600MHz RAM cos the large cache makes memory speed less sensitive as it has to do less trips to RAM.
Although I agree instability is a big no no, comparing results with a cpu that is proven to be unstable on the settings you are using is not fair or genuine. Performance will certainly suffer if there is instability, even if it does not crash. My 14700k has taught me that much. I have no preference for either cpu, they both have their own strong points for sure, but I feel you should have tuned the intel clocks, voltage and ram to the best possible settings as that what everyone who buys a 14900k does. A 7800x 3d is virtually unaffected by ram speed and doesn't oc at all really but you should have shown both at their best, or at least on stable settings.
im still holding onto the i9 9900k cause i caint afford a platform change shes long in the tooth but still works flawless in win 11 watercooled and yes i have the evga black lipped 3080 ftw3 10 gig one they both work flawless to this day
Sitting pretty on AM4 with my 5800X3D. Nothing else really meets my demands at the moment.
I believe 7950x3d is best choice for me, because I run a lot of simulation games as well as more traditional like fps. Eg 7800x3d will never run minecraft as close to something like the 7950x3d or 14900k
For context I have ''Never'' had a game launching issue with Fortnite on my 12900ks and I haven't seen any of these Intel issues on this CPU, So not needed to hold its performance back.
Thank You. You made my life easier.
disable svm(virtualization), helps with cpu performance
Wait a few months we probably have a 6 core Zen5 cpu beating or matching the i9 14900ks/7800X3D at a fraction of the cost 😂.
in gaming *
That 7800x3d temperature looks high compared to mine, on an arctic freezer3 360 45% fan speed in cinebench mine stays at 79-80°, I've only seen it go past 85° in y-cruncher BKT for a few seconds.
my temps are lower than his as well and I'm using a DEEPCOOL AK620 white digital and my temp when gaming on max 1440p setting are between 60-80 degrees depending on the game. the simulators that i play run 80 degrees at normal fan speed.
V-Cache all the things! V-Cache Ethernet. V-Cache keycaps. V-Cache RGB AIOs. V-Cache on your V-Cache. V-Cache on your headphones...
7800x3d vs 7900x3d vs 7950x3d
7900 and 7950 x3d's restricted to same core as 7800x3d test. Same perfomance?
1 Sep 2024 Amazon 7800 X3D price $460. Interesting.
You're definitely well practiced at the art of making videos in addition to doing all this testing, so when you're like, hit like, if you liked the video, it gets me to hit like before you can finish saying that. LOL!
Using a 7500F, no slouch as a budget gaming CPU. May up to a 7700X or 7800X3D later.
if you have that cpu, i dont see a reason to upgrade for at least 2 more years, that is a really good cpu
Brian, you should redo this test on Linux! Why? Because it is well known that the threadscheduler on Windows sucks, especially for more than 1 CPU/CPU-chiplet, which is why you get a higher performance on both Linux and macOS (FreeBSD foundation) than on Windows. You would be the first techtuber who tests if the 16-core Ryzen CPU does or does not perform less than the 8-core Ryzen CPU, to test if it is Windows or the extra CPU-chiplet which causes a worse performance for some games. I would be happy to help you set up a Linux distro but if you want to make it easy for yourself then run something like Bazzite, it is made for gaming. You can install it within 5 minutes and run it without any further configuration.
And watch the views count go into the toilet. People want to know the performance based on the system OS they want to use not the ones you want them to use.
@@dlewis9760 Nonsense! Plenty of people would find it interesting because they would learn something about the technology. Plenty of nerds watch his channel too, not only people who just want to game and don't care about the hardware watch.
Currently around 2% of the gamers on Steam use Linux, for the browser it is around 3-6% (depending on if you include ChromeOS), is is a smaller group than the Windows-gamers but it is far from irrelevant.
I have a slightly overclocked 14700k, is there a way to replicate "Out of Video Memory" errors? I just want to check.
Thanks!
the 1% lows on manor lords at 1080p are crazy
so my Ryzen 9 7950x3d is not a gaming cpu?
i had 13600K, 14700K now 7800x3d because i wanted to test it. the i7 capt at 5ghz was 15 degress less than 7800x3d at 4,8 ghz. both are good, am5 also had bad issues, for my next probably go with Intel, i dont like the spider look from IHS on ryzen🤢
did go the i5 12600k since intel was priced out those sku
was making more sense to me than to run after last gen out wich priced out of my budget the i5 14400 is about the same of what i got at least to my understanding and managed some nice saving.
ryzen 7000 and intel 14 gen are so priced in my market in canada make no sense for someone rocking a old rx 6700xt work for me at 1440p so far so good may regret later but i tend to prefer to upgrade sooner and keep money for it i'm deal hunter when come to component choice rather aiming top sku
i aim rocking flavor of budget and change more often more fun to build that ways for me whitthing lower budget
next big test for me gonna be outlaw from ubisoft star wars game and probably baldulgate'S wich will run just fine hopefully.
I’m just looking for something powerful enough to warrant putting in my 420 rad push 3000 rpm noctua pull chassis with a 1600w psu
currently building a 7800x3d PC, just need a GPU, well, filler gpu until 50series drops lol, currently paired with a 3060 12gb, got the cpu/mobo/ram (7800x3d, ASUS ROG Strix b650e-f, g.skill cl36 6000mhz ddr5 32gb ram) used for a steal...last pc was a 13600k build, and was great...
i feel like the temps of your 7800X3D are a bit high
mine never went above 75°c
With cinebench or other programs that max out every thread?
to be fair he is on australia, not sure if he uses ac, i hope he does for the reviews, also amd made these cpus to run hot, so, nothing special, but it soundd like you have a good cooler there, or good airflow in the case, what do you use?
@@mrm7058 i used cinebench only
@@betag24cn to be honest i have no idea, but i do have a very big case with lots of fans(my sister built it for me)