Thanks Gert. I have the gen 1 chrony and that was quite good, never missed a shot, and was bang on when FPS was input into an app. It went a bit “off” with the update directly AFTER the gen 2 came out!!!!! It’s still a bit off…fps readings all over the place +- 40 fps, but those don’t show up in change of POI. Looking at this new one but just cannot justify it considering I don’t use my Crown “professionally” AND I’ve got it where Iwant it for 8 different projectiles. Thanks for the review, as usual.
The radar frequencies of the two chronographs may influence each other. If that is the reason for the different measurement results, then it might help to select different radar frequencies. The radar frequency can be changed in the menu on the new chronograph. ... just a spontaneous idea...
Thanks for the video. I noticed my mk1 would not read if shooting into a very close back stop, ie couple of feet. Its ok at a backstop 6ft back. Strange.
Nice video with your own user experience. I'm trying to decide between the new Caldwell velociradar or the Fx true ballistic chronograph. They both do the very same thing. But the Caldwell seems to have better dedicated buttons and is a bit cheaper. 🤷
Does the Caldwell have two radars built in or not? I haven't seen the unit yet, it must have 2 radars to be able to do the BC , the variance in reading in distance plus the offset of the radars is what is needed for the BC calc. That is why the Lab Radar and True Billistic is so "high", the bigger the distance between the two radars the more accurate the BC calc.
Definately. But the science aint perfect, the BC will differ with elements, thus air pressure, heat, wind , temperature etc. I can do one at my location, it will differ slightly from where you are etc.
To do BC you need 2 radars build in, like the Lab Radar and Trye Billistic, if it is a flat unit then there is only 1 chrony and no way they can actually measure BC. Will be interesting to see what they do...
thanks for sharing your insight. I Hoping for a black friday price drop on this chrony 😉. reading up on BC post to bolster my knowledge just in case I would by this unit. FYI apparently there is no drag model (not the ones on TV 😁) that works with airgun slugs. GA is for pellets but G1 is giving inflated BC values for airgun slugs from what I read. RA4 would currently be the nearest drag model that works ok with airgun slugs. Second hand knowledge so YMMV 😋.
Fantastic, the weird thing is that the G1 works with all the apps, Element, Strelok included. Even though the BC is slightly elevated with slugs , the maths match, you can dial your scope with great accuracy based on this. Weird.
Great presentation as always:-). I own the FX pocket and the lab radar. the lab radar is also a good chrony. What I really don't understand is why they didn't implement a BC calculator. also, Garmin missed to put it in. for me as a producer of slugs, this is a mess. In my opinion it is mandatory to know the bullets bc to make proper trajectory calculations. maybe I'll sell the Labradar and switch to FX
The FX True Balasitic has two very strong radars build in, you need two radars to do BC. The FX Pocket Chrony and GArmin only has 1 radar built in, thus it can't do multiple readings that is required to generate BC.
10fps @ 1000fps is only 1% difference, no big deal. The fact its consistently 1% out just looks odd. *Most* Chronys wont do better than 1% & arent certified/calibrated.
100% correct, in shooting competitions they don't allow for this 1 percent. If the max speed is 805fps and youre gun throws out a 808fps you are DQ'ed. That is 0.4% difference. Calibrated or not. I hate this rule, and that is why I need a 100% accurate chrony. Thank you for taking the time to respond, much appreciated.
Have you tried using the chronograph with a back stop of say 50m and see if the readings will predict the velocity at 100m. I ask this as I suspect the FX True Ballistic Chronograph is estimating the velocities at distance, rather than actually measuring it.
If you set the distance in the chrony further than the actual distance it will do a calculation for the extended distance. Any distance shorter than your target will give you the actual reading from the double internal radars.
If the distance past you back stop are calculated. Who says the any of the distances are correct with a reading? Barrel speed might be the only true reading?
@@pietskiet247 That is whee the LabRadar and True Ballistic chrony is different, they actually have 2 radars build in, that is why they are so bulky, one in the bottom and one in the top, thus two chances of getting an actual reading. The True Billistic actually measures alternative distance, the first distance is from radar 1, the 2nd distance from radar 2 etc. If one of the two missis a reading the algorythm kicks in to correct with the actual reading it got.
So much for vibrator insight. Excellent tutorial. I love the final result you achieved but am too tech challenged to use this.
Once the chrony is up and running it is very easy to do
Thank you for all your hard work and for sharing!
Thanks Gert. I have the gen 1 chrony and that was quite good, never missed a shot, and was bang on when FPS was input into an app. It went a bit “off” with the update directly AFTER the gen 2 came out!!!!! It’s still a bit off…fps readings all over the place +- 40 fps, but those don’t show up in change of POI.
Looking at this new one but just cannot justify it considering I don’t use my Crown “professionally” AND I’ve got it where Iwant it for 8 different projectiles.
Thanks for the review, as usual.
The radar frequencies of the two chronographs may influence each other.
If that is the reason for the different measurement results, then it might help to select different radar frequencies.
The radar frequency can be changed in the menu on the new chronograph.
... just a spontaneous idea...
Brilliant, I spoke to a chap 5 min ago suggesting the same. The radar frequesncies are to close. Now I also know. Thanks
Thanks for the video. I noticed my mk1 would not read if shooting into a very close back stop, ie couple of feet. Its ok at a backstop 6ft back. Strange.
Nice video with your own user experience. I'm trying to decide between the new Caldwell velociradar or the Fx true ballistic chronograph. They both do the very same thing. But the Caldwell seems to have better dedicated buttons and is a bit cheaper. 🤷
Does the Caldwell have two radars built in or not? I haven't seen the unit yet, it must have 2 radars to be able to do the BC , the variance in reading in distance plus the offset of the radars is what is needed for the BC calc. That is why the Lab Radar and True Billistic is so "high", the bigger the distance between the two radars the more accurate the BC calc.
Caldwell will be the killer on the block,
Price and spec
Hi Gert - any chance you will be starting to compile a BC table of all our favourite slugs and pellets, now that you have the capability?
Definately. But the science aint perfect, the BC will differ with elements, thus air pressure, heat, wind , temperature etc. I can do one at my location, it will differ slightly from where you are etc.
@@AimSmall Am at SA coast in Cape town so doubt the data will not be usable - thanks again
Errata: There is a place to save the previous data and shot strings, will try and do a mini video about it later.
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I’m waiting for the new ballistic chronograph from Caldwell which will do bc as well
To do BC you need 2 radars build in, like the Lab Radar and Trye Billistic, if it is a flat unit then there is only 1 chrony and no way they can actually measure BC. Will be interesting to see what they do...
thanks for sharing your insight. I Hoping for a black friday price drop on this chrony 😉. reading up on BC post to bolster my knowledge just in case I would by this unit. FYI apparently there is no drag model (not the ones on TV 😁) that works with airgun slugs. GA is for pellets but G1 is giving inflated BC values for airgun slugs from what I read. RA4 would currently be the nearest drag model that works ok with airgun slugs. Second hand knowledge so YMMV 😋.
Fantastic, the weird thing is that the G1 works with all the apps, Element, Strelok included. Even though the BC is slightly elevated with slugs , the maths match, you can dial your scope with great accuracy based on this. Weird.
@@AimSmall maybe it's only relevant at greater distances.
Great presentation as always:-). I own the FX pocket and the lab radar. the lab radar is also a good chrony. What I really don't understand is why they didn't implement a BC calculator. also, Garmin missed to put it in. for me as a producer of slugs, this is a mess. In my opinion it is mandatory to know the bullets bc to make proper trajectory calculations. maybe I'll sell the Labradar and switch to FX
The FX True Balasitic has two very strong radars build in, you need two radars to do BC. The FX Pocket Chrony and GArmin only has 1 radar built in, thus it can't do multiple readings that is required to generate BC.
Yes. Labradar should be able to do the BC calculation. Should be only a software update. I wrote them, but no response.
10fps @ 1000fps is only 1% difference, no big deal.
The fact its consistently 1% out just looks odd. *Most* Chronys wont do better than 1% & arent certified/calibrated.
100% correct, in shooting competitions they don't allow for this 1 percent. If the max speed is 805fps and youre gun throws out a 808fps you are DQ'ed. That is 0.4% difference. Calibrated or not. I hate this rule, and that is why I need a 100% accurate chrony. Thank you for taking the time to respond, much appreciated.
@@AimSmall Well I know of one Chrony that's certified & calibrated &
Have you tried using the chronograph with a back stop of say 50m and see if the readings will predict the velocity at 100m. I ask this as I suspect the FX True Ballistic Chronograph is estimating the velocities at distance, rather than actually measuring it.
If you set the distance in the chrony further than the actual distance it will do a calculation for the extended distance. Any distance shorter than your target will give you the actual reading from the double internal radars.
If the distance past you back stop are calculated.
Who says the any of the distances are correct with a reading?
Barrel speed might be the only true reading?
@@pietskiet247 That is whee the LabRadar and True Ballistic chrony is different, they actually have 2 radars build in, that is why they are so bulky, one in the bottom and one in the top, thus two chances of getting an actual reading. The True Billistic actually measures alternative distance, the first distance is from radar 1, the 2nd distance from radar 2 etc. If one of the two missis a reading the algorythm kicks in to correct with the actual reading it got.
@@AimSmall so if your backstop is 50m and its calculating a velocity at 100m then its just estimating or am I missing something.
@@josh9465 100% correct, I am fixing the error in my new video - coming out tomorrow
I never trusted my fx chrony mk 1!and tbh wouldn’t trust that either …. For the price I’d get a skan
The Mk II is a lot better (so I heard), the MK 1 was the first attempt and for the price not a bad bay. I am keeping mine.
@@AimSmall I have the mk ll but I trust my LMBR more I should by a skan really
Knows that vibrators eat batteries and there are many buttons on a woman . Things married men realize soon after marriage
And we keep on pushing the wrong buttons...
Can't find the MUTE either...
@@AimSmall😂😂😂
Too fiddley (as usual for FX)
The True Chrony is not fiddle at all, 100% reading all shots