I know the crowd is a big part of the Mosconi cup but what they were doing on Kaci's penultimate 8 ball is just plain unacceptable. Do what you want but once the player is down on the shot show some decency and respect for gods sake.
@@bravo-popov Been to numerous Alexandra events, not once seen the fans slander the players anywhere near whats going on this year. Not to mention outright screaming during shots.
I'm an American and I was embarrassed that our fans wouldn't shut up and allow Alcaide to shoot. I have zero doubt that the rowdiness of the fans when Europe was shooting made Europe play better. I don't have a problem with fans getting rowdy at all but show some respect while they're shooting so that it is fair. All you do is help the other side to get pumped up and play better and at the same time, you cause others to think of you as poor sportsmen. It's a lose-lose situation when you act like that. Show a little class!
@@observer991 Aren't the European crowds just as obnoxious when USA plays over there? I do recall though the refs usually tell the crowd to shoosh for important moment shots where as here in Florida/USA refs seem to just not doing any crowd control and letting them do and say whatever whenever as loud as they want.
@@mikreselassieI don’t think you do, they couldn’t control what he does but they do control how they shoot and scratching on the break with an open table is a big thing lol
@@mikreselassie i play in a league dingus, well enough to know that ball in hand is pretty much a guaranteed rack to my opponent. with alternating breaks, the expectation is for both teams to trade blows with the person who won the lag on the hill first. thats exactly how this match went
Rack 8, score is 4-3, David misses an astonishing 6 and USA had a huge chance with 4 balls left on the table to gain this match. IMHO absolutely the biggest moment in this match. USA fails to run out though due to a rushed shot and a great tactical battle follows. Simply can not understand why this whole situation and sequence of events (starting with the incredible missed 6 ball) is completely neglected and not shown in this 30min summary? The video at around 22min jumps straight to the last rack!? Unbelievable that such an important key moment is simply left out. If Europe wins the cup again this year then this was the turning moment. Sometimes I get the feeling that these highlights videos focus more on transmitting whole spoken sentences by the commentators than on what is happening on the table. Such a pity, this great game should be promoted in all its glory. We're missing out.
It's just highlights they release super quick like same day it seems, there will be full video games available later or even right now probably on other channels but eventually the full individual games in their entirety should be up. Though you could argue most people would just watch these highlights and then not bother watching the full matches as much later ya know.
***Fedor, every pool player knows that you’re one of the bests to use the jump cue. You don’t need to prove it. you could have done a “kick, hit and stick” on that Pink4.***
@@jace5790 Eh to be fair Woodward pretty much told him to go for it all or nothing kind of thing but in hindsight not the right call a rare miss by the Capt as overall he's been the best on team USA by a lot in fact, def should of told Fedor to just do the safety there for sure.
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I just don't understand the jump there or why Woodward was not talking him out of it. Was that not a super easy kick and stick? You leave so much to chance when jumping, even if you're the best player int he world.
Yeah like his first mistake as captain likely got caught up in the moment and just decided to have faith in his teammate and told him go for it all or potentially nothing, but was a tactical error. Great capt and best USA player so far this event Woodwards been but for sure he shoulda told Fedor to do the safety thing.
Why aren't the refs doing anything? I swear I recall every time they are in Europe while their crowds are super obnoxious to, I swear I remember the ref telling them to be quiet before shots for both teams here it's like zero crowd control though?
Did you know that no one knows its the result until you make a comment saying sp, then a bunch of idiots upvote it then it ends up at the top so you literaly give away the result....that picture could be the end of any rack.
Idky people say it’s not fair for Kaci to miss the 8 ball while the crowd was chanting. Last year Europe was doing the same exact thing but when USA loses it’s because we’re simply not good enough Don’t hate the player hate the game. The crowd shouts during the mosconi and at best you’ll get a loud shush 😂 if you don’t like it then watch something else
Then why do they hardly ever win the world cup of pool, the world championship, the US open, the Europe open? Hardly ever is an Asian that wins the major major titles. Reyes and Bustamante use to win them, and biado has won but outside of them hardly any Asian has won consistently in major events.
@andrewverrett568 the Ko brothers? The Philippines are current World Cup champions. Johann Chua? Robbie Capito? All won massive tournaments this year alone.
@andrewverrett568 you don't know sh*t about pool, Asians almost dominated international tournaments this year, WPA events, Wnt ranking events, a number of Major events, (UK Open, Scottish Open, Hanoi Open, Reyes Cup and the International Open last week lol) it is Asian's year bruh check the stats, go cry to yo momma if u hate reality. Asia is always on top of the Hierarchy of pool. Asia>Europe>USA 🤷
@WestCoastWilliam the Philippines are like thier own country in pool. Let's be honest. They have thier own playing style and no one ever mentions them as Asian players, they call them the Filipino players. I was not putting the Philippines in with the mainland Asians. Again. Apart from the Filipinos no Asians win major titles consistently. And again I said consistently. They won titles this year. Okay.. haven't seen any of them with 3 or 4 world titles or us open or Europe open titles. Not like reyes or svb, or many European players.
What's the referee for? Crowd is yelling like never before while the players are in position and nobody says anything ? Mosconi Cup or not, it gives a sad image of our sport.
In other matches the European ref Marcel was signalling the crowd to be quiet, this US ref didn't care, they need all the help they can get, like drafting in a Russian and Matchroom banning Filler
I dont understand why snooker request silencie and respect but this looks like a pub energy. Doesnt match. I try to play this game for years, its hard. People dont get it. And some players also dont as far as I can see on some matches
I'd like to publicly apologise to Fedor Gorst,I called him turncoat, yet now I see he's been working for us all along,sorry Fedor,Europe thanks you for your service. Lol
@EmmaHarrison-l1n How is he not still Russian? You never heard of dual citizenship lol He'll always be Russian, he decided to play for the US,it was his choice.
because the pool organizations have now also started to implement politics to the game and the players with their sponsors and stuff have to put up with this shit
The only reason we know who wins is because of all of your damn comments, its just a picture, it could be any end of the rack moment but because you say its the winning photo everyone upvotes your comment and then you end up spoiling it yourself.
They don't like it when you do them, and some have signs explicitly stating no jump shots or masse shots. Of course there are some who don't care. The one I go to is part of the county APA league, so they don't care if you do them, or maybe they do as long as you aren't an ass about it. I don't know, they've never said anything to me about it. But for the most part I try to kick at everything, cause it's not my table. But I have done many a masse on the tables, and they've never said anything about it. As long as you aren't damaging the tables they don't mind. But you can always ask. I think it really depends on your skill level. If you know what you're doing they are probably okay with it.
Nit really, these fans are annoying as all hell. When Shaw is at the table sure he asks for it. But what did Kaci or Alcaide do? They're just trying to play.
@@M.Mae.M Yeah I'm just not a fan of Gorst and not a fan of svb either both I feel are over rated and over hyped so I root for the other team always (ô¿ô)
@@gr8t1bobo Nothing overhyped about them Gorst literally won like 3 out of the 5 or so USA/ world championships this year I don't even know who the last guy to do that was and SVB skills accomplishments and resume objectively make him a top 10 all time kind of player potentially. But it is a sport and fans have preferences which is cool, though yeah I'd always support my team in Nation vs nation events though.
The hell you talking about lol dude is probably one of the nicest guys on the circuit, heck even what Jason Shaw does in these events is 100 percent fine and that is literally 100 times actually smug then Woodward is even capable of being....being hyped up for your team and going woo is not smug dude.....
I know the crowd is a big part of the Mosconi cup but what they were doing on Kaci's penultimate 8 ball is just plain unacceptable. Do what you want but once the player is down on the shot show some decency and respect for gods sake.
Never watched before lol? Happens every year regardless of who the home team is.
@@jakepokorney7409
Silly Amy Rose again?
before the gamblers for the Mosconi Cup 2024!
What did you expect from the gringos?
Wasn’t too bad actually. Far worse for the player if there is silence and some idiots shout into that, but on principle you are right of course.
@@jakepokorney7409 Does not.
The American fans are a little extra this year, shouting when Alcaide is down on the 9ball.. Not fair play!
Just like the Europeans when the matches are in Alexandra Palace
@@bravo-popov Been to numerous Alexandra events, not once seen the fans slander the players anywhere near whats going on this year. Not to mention outright screaming during shots.
All the better when Europe whopp their arse!
@@bravo-popov No no, not same
@@bravo-popov there no where as bad as we are Europe shuts the hell up when they get done
I'm an American and I was embarrassed that our fans wouldn't shut up and allow Alcaide to shoot. I have zero doubt that the rowdiness of the fans when Europe was shooting made Europe play better. I don't have a problem with fans getting rowdy at all but show some respect while they're shooting so that it is fair. All you do is help the other side to get pumped up and play better and at the same time, you cause others to think of you as poor sportsmen. It's a lose-lose situation when you act like that. Show a little class!
Clearly you are new to watching this event 😂
@@M.Mae.M LOL...kinda new I guess. I've been watching since 1995 which was its second year, and I have played in about 300 tournaments.
@@observer991 Aren't the European crowds just as obnoxious when USA plays over there? I do recall though the refs usually tell the crowd to shoosh for important moment shots where as here in Florida/USA refs seem to just not doing any crowd control and letting them do and say whatever whenever as loud as they want.
Kaci's safe shot turned the game around
the real game loser is the scratch off break
@kameronpeterson3601 you don't know how pool is played
@@mikreselassieI don’t think you do, they couldn’t control what he does but they do control how they shoot and scratching on the break with an open table is a big thing lol
Hey dummy they were 4-2
@@mikreselassie i play in a league dingus, well enough to know that ball in hand is pretty much a guaranteed rack to my opponent. with alternating breaks, the expectation is for both teams to trade blows with the person who won the lag on the hill first. thats exactly how this match went
Rack 8, score is 4-3, David misses an astonishing 6 and USA had a huge chance with 4 balls left on the table to gain this match. IMHO absolutely the biggest moment in this match. USA fails to run out though due to a rushed shot and a great tactical battle follows. Simply can not understand why this whole situation and sequence of events (starting with the incredible missed 6 ball) is completely neglected and not shown in this 30min summary? The video at around 22min jumps straight to the last rack!? Unbelievable that such an important key moment is simply left out. If Europe wins the cup again this year then this was the turning moment. Sometimes I get the feeling that these highlights videos focus more on transmitting whole spoken sentences by the commentators than on what is happening on the table. Such a pity, this great game should be promoted in all its glory. We're missing out.
I was wondering what was up with this, I'm like "I'm positive this is the right match, where is that?"... the video editor doesn't understand pool.
You're right, I wanted to see Fedor butcher the long cut shot on the 6, amazed that Matchroom cut it out.
bc Matchroom sucks and they know it
what?? he (david) missed that (22:28)??!?
It's just highlights they release super quick like same day it seems, there will be full video games available later or even right now probably on other channels but eventually the full individual games in their entirety should be up. Though you could argue most people would just watch these highlights and then not bother watching the full matches as much later ya know.
Love the game of pool
***Fedor, every pool player knows that you’re one of the bests to use the jump cue. You don’t need to prove it. you could have done a “kick, hit and stick” on that Pink4.***
it's incredible to me that he grabbed the jump cure there with the match on the line.
@@jace5790 Eh to be fair Woodward pretty much told him to go for it all or nothing kind of thing but in hindsight not the right call a rare miss by the Capt as overall he's been the best on team USA by a lot in fact, def should of told Fedor to just do the safety there for sure.
Best match of the season so far. Everyone is solid and so close.
The fact they played Stone Cold Steve Austin's theme after the first rack is legendary
Asian # 1 and humble and kind godbless
Yes Kaci. Believe big man - just believe.
EUROPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:37
great camera work
I'm not sure that Kaci knows how a shot clock works...
If only Europe played like this in the Reyes Cup.
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Did Alcaide ask for 2 beers?🤣🤣
Come on USA fans, show some class!
Why isn't a ref telling them to be quiet right before players shoot? I swear I recall them doing that even in Europe?
00:50
Hanger for the bangers.
I just don't understand the jump there or why Woodward was not talking him out of it. Was that not a super easy kick and stick? You leave so much to chance when jumping, even if you're the best player int he world.
Yeah like his first mistake as captain likely got caught up in the moment and just decided to have faith in his teammate and told him go for it all or potentially nothing, but was a tactical error. Great capt and best USA player so far this event Woodwards been but for sure he shoulda told Fedor to do the safety thing.
I love how quite it gets when europe wins lolol
Americans tried to bring seahawks #12 player to the game. It did not work. That crowd got real quiet after they lost. 😂
Gorst 9:20 says it all
Didn't show the best part of this match..
Last eight ball pressure
😂😂it must be an American doing the adverts, not showing the end of the 8th frame
I do like the US is competitive this year, but the crowd needs to show respect to both teams and be silent while players are at the table.
Why aren't the refs doing anything? I swear I recall every time they are in Europe while their crowds are super obnoxious to, I swear I remember the ref telling them to be quiet before shots for both teams here it's like zero crowd control though?
Jason Shaw looks like one of the seven dwarfs
Stop showing the result in the thumbnail ffs!!
I agree... I try putting a piece of paper over the picture😂...doesnt work... If i see any blue or red... Then i know who won😢
Did you know that no one knows its the result until you make a comment saying sp, then a bunch of idiots upvote it then it ends up at the top so you literaly give away the result....that picture could be the end of any rack.
I thought they were doing the opposite making it look like USA is all happy and winning in like 3 videos where they ended up losing so far.
Idky people say it’s not fair for Kaci to miss the 8 ball while the crowd was chanting. Last year Europe was doing the same exact thing but when USA loses it’s because we’re simply not good enough
Don’t hate the player hate the game. The crowd shouts during the mosconi and at best you’ll get a loud shush 😂 if you don’t like it then watch something else
¡Vamos!
They quieten down really quickly. Another European victory incoming
Aill go to asian player,gogogo asian is # 1 in pool godbless
Then why do they hardly ever win the world cup of pool, the world championship, the US open, the Europe open? Hardly ever is an Asian that wins the major major titles. Reyes and Bustamante use to win them, and biado has won but outside of them hardly any Asian has won consistently in major events.
@andrewverrett568 the Ko brothers? The Philippines are current World Cup champions. Johann Chua? Robbie Capito? All won massive tournaments this year alone.
@andrewverrett568 you don't know sh*t about pool, Asians almost dominated international tournaments this year, WPA events, Wnt ranking events, a number of Major events, (UK Open, Scottish Open, Hanoi Open, Reyes Cup and the International Open last week lol) it is Asian's year bruh check the stats, go cry to yo momma if u hate reality. Asia is always on top of the Hierarchy of pool. Asia>Europe>USA 🤷
@@andrewverrett568check all the world cup events this year b4 you comment most is asian players is dominating the major events
@WestCoastWilliam the Philippines are like thier own country in pool. Let's be honest. They have thier own playing style and no one ever mentions them as Asian players, they call them the Filipino players. I was not putting the Philippines in with the mainland Asians. Again. Apart from the Filipinos no Asians win major titles consistently. And again I said consistently. They won titles this year. Okay.. haven't seen any of them with 3 or 4 world titles or us open or Europe open titles. Not like reyes or svb, or many European players.
any European win in this mosconi is world's win
That doesn't make any sense.
@@danielhicks4826 well, people who liked my comment, got it
If Joshua Filler was in the Europe Team, USA can only win the loud 😅
Felt so fast they might as well be on ice.
Damn cut break
Last day I bunmp into a comment claiming Europe fans were just as nonclass. Can anyone provide an evidence
Yes, the Mosconi Cup 2023.
@jace5790 they say "eat shit SVB"? U lieing
I'm American and the fans were annoying me
GORST the most improved player - I miss Joshua Filler
What's the referee for? Crowd is yelling like never before while the players are in position and nobody says anything ? Mosconi Cup or not, it gives a sad image of our sport.
In other matches the European ref Marcel was signalling the crowd to be quiet, this US ref didn't care, they need all the help they can get, like drafting in a Russian and Matchroom banning Filler
@@bmac7885 100% agree
@@bmac7885 drafting in a Russian lol. Shaw has so much Euro pride he's live in the US for years.
@jace5790 To earn a living? Pride has nothing to do with where people live, clown.
those fans did not respect the players when they're turn,
The ref needs a tighter shirt
2 beers 2 beers hahahha
Go team USA take the cup
Is that Uncle Lazer???
I dont understand why snooker request silencie and respect but this looks like a pub energy. Doesnt match. I try to play this game for years, its hard. People dont get it. And some players also dont as far as I can see on some matches
eropa 😍
I wish that matchroom would stops putting the winning team photo up on headline video
I'd like to publicly apologise to Fedor Gorst,I called him turncoat, yet now I see he's been working for us all along,sorry Fedor,Europe thanks you for your service.
Lol
He’s the perennial European MVP. Stole that spot from Shane.
How can he be a turncoat when he wouldn't be allowed to play if he was "still russian"?
@@EmmaHarrison-l1nGoodluck, gamblers!
@EmmaHarrison-l1n How is he not still Russian? You never heard of dual citizenship lol
He'll always be Russian, he decided to play for the US,it was his choice.
@@EmmaHarrison-l1n Song name? welcome for the lane?
these matches are becoming impossible to watch and to play in.
It's truly poor sportsmanship to have the crowd making so much noise during Europe's shots. Always play with integrity first! Or just don't play!
American fans are horribly disrespectful in this one. Ref is not doing his job once again
Why is gorst american side?
cuz is a national american.
Omg Fedor lost a match in the Mosconi Cup!? 😱 shocking. GET OFF MY TEAM 😡
Frickin lame man what the glug was that, dangit man they had it!! Gorst come-on man.
So why isn’t Filler on the team? Someone please explain to me…
Started getting messy with sponsors and match room so filler withdrew
@@StephenMelling or was he blackballed?
@@StephenMelling he didn't withdraw. Matchroom removed him, big difference. Pool Politics at work.
@@mattevans1643Filler is a cheater and an asshole. Good riddance.
because the pool organizations have now also started to implement politics to the game and the players with their sponsors and stuff have to put up with this shit
good job europe the more they say usa usa usa the more yourl winning europe ha ha ha
American fans not fair play
Merry Christmas europe 😂
The only reason we know who wins is because of all of your damn comments, its just a picture, it could be any end of the rack moment but because you say its the winning photo everyone upvotes your comment and then you end up spoiling it yourself.
What way does it work in the pool halls
Surely people doing the jump shot esp ones that can't play pool would wreck the tables
And the big breaks
They don't like it when you do them, and some have signs explicitly stating no jump shots or masse shots. Of course there are some who don't care. The one I go to is part of the county APA league, so they don't care if you do them, or maybe they do as long as you aren't an ass about it. I don't know, they've never said anything to me about it. But for the most part I try to kick at everything, cause it's not my table. But I have done many a masse on the tables, and they've never said anything about it. As long as you aren't damaging the tables they don't mind. But you can always ask. I think it really depends on your skill level. If you know what you're doing they are probably okay with it.
Kaci been terrible
USA CROWD IS A DISGRACE ON TIMES
Terrible video editing.
Fedor Worst 😂🫵
Is it wrong that I'm American and I was rooting against usa (ô¿ô)
Nit really, these fans are annoying as all hell. When Shaw is at the table sure he asks for it. But what did Kaci or Alcaide do? They're just trying to play.
European players are great but yes its odd you would route against your home country.
@@M.Mae.M Yeah I'm just not a fan of Gorst and not a fan of svb either both I feel are over rated and over hyped so I root for the other team always (ô¿ô)
@@gr8t1bobo Nothing overhyped about them Gorst literally won like 3 out of the 5 or so USA/ world championships this year I don't even know who the last guy to do that was and SVB skills accomplishments and resume objectively make him a top 10 all time kind of player potentially. But it is a sport and fans have preferences which is cool, though yeah I'd always support my team in Nation vs nation events though.
@@gr8t1boboCould u beat either one of them in a race to 5 in nine ball?
Not so smug now Woodward are you lol 🏴
The hell you talking about lol dude is probably one of the nicest guys on the circuit, heck even what Jason Shaw does in these events is 100 percent fine and that is literally 100 times actually smug then Woodward is even capable of being....being hyped up for your team and going woo is not smug dude.....
Wanna talk about smug? Shaw and ESPECIALLY Joshua Filler
Kaci is slow and boring