I got a cab ride in a CN FPA4 from Walkerville to Toronto , Ontario in about " 76 , we had a rolling meet outside London and it was sheer joy to experience . Both trains at track speed , snow flying and time for just one frame ..... It is probably my favorite cab ride EVER !! ALCO's RULE. Ok , MILW's .
Nice to see that those FPA4s are being preserved. I remember watching them pull VIA passenger trains in the 1980s. Nothing like a set in A-B-A formation pulling hard on a long passenger train, with black smoke at the stack and the ALCo designed prime movers giving their all to get to the 79 mph track speed.
I grew up just east of State Road (RT 94) west of Broadview rd. and just north of the east west main of what is now CSX ( formerly NYC, formerly Big 4) in the 1950's and 60's. I played on and around those tracks as a kid. I haven't lived in Cleveland for 46 years now, and don't remember much of where you filmed (Parma Yard) In my day that would have been C&O trackage. Thanks for some great shots. I wonder, was the ethanol train on that east west line? I was a bit surprised by a dear being in that area.
Horns? Something that todays fans can not appreciate. (because it just doesn't happen anymore) The Leslie A200, honking away with a brace of four F7s running notch 8. Those were the days.
What a GREAT video ! ! i have been down at the 13th ST. diamond down at Clark AVe yard BUT never can get them at the right time ? what days and times do they come into Clark AVE yard ? LOVE your channel !
@@B83024 Thank you for the kind words! Most recently Norfolk Southern has been leaving Campbell yard around 10am, with CSX getting there around 11. When NS returns and when CSX leaves is all dependent on how much work the train has on a given day. Hope this helps.
I guess that's still good (PTC) if it's placed on that sector (It means the customers expect to remain dependent on rail)... but I'm confused. I thought PTC was used on main lines (Class-1) only? Some of those rails, I walked from point A to point B, when I was younger and more foolish (and gogglemaps wasn't much a thing yet)...
PTC is used on Class 1 mainlines yes. But recently a lot of Class 1s have been equipping some of their smaller lines with PTC if they see it fitting and worth it. In the example of the video, CSX has been installing PTC on their Cleveland Subdivision because they suspect an increase in traffic levels for Clark Avenue Yard. While it is not a mainline, it still is a branch line with a lot of potential.
@tehpw7574 PTC can, and will when needed, be put in on smaller Subdivisions, as it is required for certain commodities like Chlorine. There is several sections of "Mainline track" on CSX without PTC, some examples are the Big Sandy, Kingsport, Blue Ridge, and Charlotte Subs, which are all active "mainlines" but primarily run coal and mixed freight, but don't deal with PIH/TIH commodities like Chlorine.
is it the CSX Cleveland sub that the branch to Willow Connects to or is it some other CSX sub bc I do know that NS also interchanges with the CVSR somewhere
@@riverlinerailphotoproductions NS hasn’t interchanged with CVSR in quite a while considering it connects with CSX on one end and W&LE on the other. When NKP 765 used to come to the valley, it was on NS rails but then transferred to CSX to be interchanged to CVSR. And Im not sure the name on the line to Willow, but I guess it could be considered a branch of the Cleveland Sub.
Ok, I’ve heard CVSR has been struggling financially and I’m not sure buying new locomotives is the smartest option unless they’re replacing old ones. I would imagine the B-unit would be used as a parts source or a generator car.
I got a cab ride in a CN FPA4 from Walkerville to Toronto , Ontario in about " 76 , we had a rolling meet outside London and it was sheer joy to experience . Both trains at track speed , snow flying and time for just one frame ..... It is probably my favorite cab ride EVER !! ALCO's RULE. Ok , MILW's .
Nice to see that those FPA4s are being preserved. I remember watching them pull VIA passenger trains in the 1980s. Nothing like a set in A-B-A formation pulling hard on a long passenger train, with black smoke at the stack and the ALCo designed prime movers giving their all to get to the 79 mph track speed.
I have not seen a FPB-4 in ages. I recall them on CN and CPR/CP rail and VIA Rail. Wow.
Amazing work! Thank god that the Cleveland sub will be getting more traffic because past strongsville it’s pretty much dead.
great video on the old units and that swithers unit thanks
Nice, I like watching the local operations and short trains. Getting ready to start my first layout. Want to keep it small and local in nature.
@@monmixer I love smaller local operations as well. I hope the layout building goes well! That’s always a fun process.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS!!!!
Excellent video really enjoyed watching your video keep up the great work thanks again and have a great day
Them rails look whooped. All wavy and squiggly. No wonder NS has so many "incidents"
You can stop worrying about the squiggly rails.
Bidens 2023 infrastructure plan has those tracks slated to be replaced .
Great job as always bud!
Nice! I actually saw 6773 and 6871 on an EB BNSF manifest on 6/5, it was crazy
I grew up just east of State Road (RT 94) west of Broadview rd. and just north of the east west main of what is now CSX ( formerly NYC, formerly Big 4) in the 1950's and 60's. I played on and around those tracks as a kid.
I haven't lived in Cleveland for 46 years now, and don't remember much of where you filmed (Parma Yard) In my day that would have been C&O trackage.
Thanks for some great shots. I wonder, was the ethanol train on that east west line? I was a bit surprised by a dear being in that area.
@@robertweldon7909 Thank you for sharing! And yes the ethanol train was on the east/west line.
Awesome video nice 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Are these from the Napa Valley Wine Train ? Glad to see them saved , there was talk of simply scrapping them on site !
@@johnuhelski8613 These came from the Grand Canyon Railway.
Horns?
Something that todays fans can not appreciate. (because it just doesn't happen anymore)
The Leslie A200, honking away with a brace of four F7s running notch 8.
Those were the days.
What a GREAT video ! ! i have been down at the 13th ST. diamond down at Clark AVe yard BUT never can get them at the right time ? what days and times do they come into Clark AVE yard ? LOVE your channel !
@@B83024 Thank you for the kind words! Most recently Norfolk Southern has been leaving Campbell yard around 10am, with CSX getting there around 11. When NS returns and when CSX leaves is all dependent on how much work the train has on a given day. Hope this helps.
@@northernohiorailfanningpro8899 yes it did ! thanks and PLEASE keep those COOL videos coming !
@@B83024 That’s the plan!
That first train was the "devils train" engine 6666😂😂😂😂😂
I guess that's still good (PTC) if it's placed on that sector (It means the customers expect to remain dependent on rail)... but I'm confused. I thought PTC was used on main lines (Class-1) only? Some of those rails, I walked from point A to point B, when I was younger and more foolish (and gogglemaps wasn't much a thing yet)...
PTC is used on Class 1 mainlines yes. But recently a lot of Class 1s have been equipping some of their smaller lines with PTC if they see it fitting and worth it. In the example of the video, CSX has been installing PTC on their Cleveland Subdivision because they suspect an increase in traffic levels for Clark Avenue Yard. While it is not a mainline, it still is a branch line with a lot of potential.
@tehpw7574 PTC can, and will when needed, be put in on smaller Subdivisions, as it is required for certain commodities like Chlorine. There is several sections of "Mainline track" on CSX without PTC, some examples are the Big Sandy, Kingsport, Blue Ridge, and Charlotte Subs, which are all active "mainlines" but primarily run coal and mixed freight, but don't deal with PIH/TIH commodities like Chlorine.
is it the CSX Cleveland sub that the branch to Willow Connects to or is it some other CSX sub bc I do know that NS also interchanges with the CVSR somewhere
@@riverlinerailphotoproductions NS hasn’t interchanged with CVSR in quite a while considering it connects with CSX on one end and W&LE on the other. When NKP 765 used to come to the valley, it was on NS rails but then transferred to CSX to be interchanged to CVSR. And Im not sure the name on the line to Willow, but I guess it could be considered a branch of the Cleveland Sub.
@@northernohiorailfanningpro8899 so apparently its called the Willow industrial track which is where the CSX cleveland sub begins
Any idea on Age of the B&O Signals like the Color Position one?
@@doublediamondrailroad5949 I believe the ones shown in the video were installed in the 50s? I will have to double check but I believe around then.
Does this mean that G-type signals on the Greenwich Sub are the next project after replacing everything on the CLE shortline?
@@MP_67_Productions To that, I don’t know. There’s been rumors about that for a long time, but I guess we’ll see
Since CVSR has 3 FPA-4’s, will these “new” ones be used in active service or as part sources?
@@allohiorailfan6123 the plan is for 6773 (the new arrival) to be placed into service. I’m not sure about the accompanying B unit.
Ok, I’ve heard CVSR has been struggling financially and I’m not sure buying new locomotives is the smartest option unless they’re replacing old ones. I would imagine the B-unit would be used as a parts source or a generator car.
@@allohiorailfan6123 They’re doing alright financially. 4241, 1822, and 182 have been sold to LTEX and were sent out a while ago.
Alright, putting the puzzle pieces together. Makes sense now.
@@allohiorailfan6123 I would have much depression if CVRS folded: It would be 105% certain that the rail would be pulled not long after that...
2:10 NS 6666
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