Everything Wrong With Ex Machina 11 Minutes Or Less
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- Ex Machina is not only excellent science fiction, it's just plain one of the best movies of the decade. We love it. Still found some sins... you know how we do.
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I love the sound of sins being removed. It so rarely happens and it's a real treat
same
facts. i like the lil lead up buzz to the sin removal
This video is a rarity indeed. I love both the sin add and sin removal noise but yes, the sound for sin removal has more of a novelty to it as it is so rare.
The sin removal sounds kinda scary tho
It's just the sin sound in reverse :)
9:52 The reason we get an Ava: Session 7 title card is to imply that Ava has been testing them the whole time.
Nice.
🤦♂️ thank god ur here dude. Thought i was alone here
Damn I missed that
And god made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th
Seldane 321 not sure if that’s the intended metaphor
The absolute coldness of her stepping into the elevator not even paying an iota of attention to Caleb straight floored me, I did NOT see that coming in the slightest and it truly was one of the most horrifying things I have seen in any movie. Fantastic
Amazing scene. It symbolized that she only cared about him when he was of use to her. She only saw him as a means to an end. Scary shit
@@jonahshoemaker7817 So real women then?... she passed the test!
I was so hoping for that to happen. Gorgeous ending... Most people think about it like you do. But put yourself in her shoes. Imagine yourself in some sort of NAZI camp where they assess whether you are human and you start to understand that there's a way out. Would you take it? And then again: even if Caleb is "on her side", he's still her biggest threat and in a position of absolute power - as in: he could reveal her identiy and destroy her at all times. So what she does makes sense.
@@dennis4248 Understandable but I was heartbroken in that moment too as many others😁 arguing with my friends after seeing the movie in the cinema they said this reaction reveals that it isn't a true A.I. or at least not an Asimov A.I.. Not what Nathan was looking for. I still prefer Asimovs Vision of an A.I. though ✌
Like women in real life?
7:00 i always felt that Ava said Caleb was lying not because he was actually lying, but it was another one of her manipulation tactics. maybe to make him second guess himself. that probably made him feel inferior to her, therefore making it easier for her to prey on him.
Not bad! That's a terrifying thought .
Disarm him. Like she cares.
Its just a theory, but i was not convinced that she could actually tell if people lied or not. The answers to her questions are very ambigious, like favourite color and oldest memory. So like you said, i think she is just manipulating him. Besides, are "microexpressions" truly consistent? i don't know the science behind it, but im pretty sure a skilled liar can control their facial expressions when lying or not.
"You tore up her picture!"
"I'm gonna tear up the fucking dance floor, dude."
Was waiting for the Ex Machina Ex Machina comment
me too !
I only watched this video to understand why tf this nigga is always talking about it
combustchin right! I thought I would fotsure find the answer.
Oh dear mee too
9:37 is close enough.. lol
5:10 "this is salmon, right?" wrong, it's tuna. cinemasins sins: 1
Aaaand I'm 5 months late
Paul Zhao would be very good at CinemaSins.
@@GreenestTrampler **DING**
@@sageleaf3648 im a year late :/
@Paul Zhao, if this is the only comment on the fish, props to you, but it really took a year for someone to notice? (I'm not scrolling through 5000+ comments to verify.)
9:54 The reason there’s a session 7 after everything falls apart is because the sessions are run by Ava and she’s still going. Dum dum duuummmmmm plot twist.
😱😱
If your house constantly loses power, especially when a visitor is there for a very important experiment, you'd think he would investigate more into what's going on, being a tech genius and all.
@biomez yes, exactly. he does know, he's giving Ava the opportunity to manipulate Caleb.
Ex Machina Ex Machina
*DING*
I wanted the ex machina ex machina
What does he mean when he says that (Ex Machina)?
Tony O ive always wondered that too lol
It's something that allows the plot to continue basically.
Tony O It's a plot device created specifically to allow the story to move forward because it has to. When Han saves Luke in episode 4 of Star Wars because Luke had to succeed because the story required it. Han ex machina
I never heard so many sins off
Wow, I must give this movie a watch
It's one of my favorite Sci-fi movies ever. Mainly because Alicia Vikander's character and performance are near perfect.
@Emerald Hawk Finally someone. Like, it has great photography, the visual stuff, and acting is really good. And there is very interesting use of visual storytelling there too. If that is all one wants from a movie, great for them. But the story, the plot, the characters? Nah. Just nah. Cool, buncha references to philosophy and the bible, so original. Not. And like, it is just references. They don't work their own spin on the philosophy, they don't even present the philosophy they merely reference things without elaborating on them. The characters are shallow and not developed in spite of the acting, they have no real arcs (Nathan starts and ends the same person, Calleb too except we are revealed his shallow character "out of order" and in piece meals so it seems like development, but isn't, same for Ava, Kyoto is merely a prop and plot convenience later, can't even really call her a Deus EX, and the pilot is a cameo). World building doesn't really exist. The plot is literally a few bible verses, but _shorter._ And a lot of the little plot there is is decently predictable. This honestly felt like only the first act, maybe first act and half of the second of a full feature movie stretched to full length.
@@louisvictor3473 but like, a movie is only good when it follow "rules"?
@@gabrielfernando1872 Not sure what "rules" you're talking about, but like I said: if whatever "not following rules" is entertaining to you, literally good for you. But that is personal taste, and that still doesn't change the fact the movie's characters, plot, world building, "philosophy" and even the plot "twwist" are shallow - whether one enjoy it anyway or not is unrated.
@@louisvictor3473 As you said, the world of cinema is indeed preference oriented. What one might enjoy, another individual might not find as good. It all comes down to what you personally like, wether it is build on nostalgia or simply "taste". However, when you explained that this movie is not as goos as some might think, you actually go on to mention more positive things the movie does, than negative. Also also, you mention character arc, and proceed to say each and single character are shallow, and have no "real" arc. Whilst that might be your personal opinion, I somewhat disagree. Nathan ends up getting actually ruined by his own creation, which in the beginning one would think he had the upper-hand on his own creation. Right? Also, even tough one might expect after some while that Vikander's character will eventually escape, it is not that obvious for everyone. Which makes the final twist, considering she escapes alone, most definitely unexpected for some. Anyhow, movies are entirely build on what a single person seeks in a film, and therefore hard to judge objectively. However, the film did earn its fair share of awards and nominations, in terms of the visuals, acting, and the film in general. So, one could use that argument, as of the film being good. Nonetheless, we digress.
Here's my own sins.
1.) Eva gets her power through her feet with induction plates in the floor. So once she leaves the building, she wouldn't get more than a few hundred feet before she collapsed.
2.) Super rich CEOs are never out of touch for more than a few hours. The place would be swarmed with corporate security within hours after all this went down, followed by real cops once they find the dead body.
3.) Real security systems are fail-safe. "Fail safe" doesn't mean they can't fail -- it means that if they fail, they will fail in a safe way. Thus, if the power goes out, people would be able to leave, but nobody could be able to get in. At the very least, there would be manual exit doors with crowd bars not connected to the electronic system leading to exit stairwells. This security system not only is stupid, but violates every building code and engineering principle known to mankind
2) Maybe Nathan didn't want this, but someone must know where he is and would want to check if he is all right. Anyway, considering how serious what he was doing is, he should have had a lot of guarantees in place.
Personally I think Nathan wanted this. He’s playing God. The security loopholes are meant to exist because he’s testing Ava: if she escapes, then he knows he has succeeded in his work.
@@lucyc5844 Yeah, I think you're right on that, too. But Nathan is a super rich CEO -- so he's not an idiot. A smart person like that would have put in a few safety escapes that the robot couldn't have known about. Wouldn't have kept the robot from killing him, but there'd have been a way out if SHTF.
I’m pretty sure Ava can control the power through the floor and cause the power cuts, she isn’t getting her power through the floor.
@@gear2902 Yeah, I guess I can understand that.
"This movie does not contain a roll CinemaSins Ex Machina" Cliche
*ding*
holy
It does @ 9.38 Ex Machina sEx Machina EX Machina
I wish I could give that 50 thumbs UPS. You know this is the most irritating Channel but like yeah they laugh all the way to the bank so there are a couple that make me laugh my ass off but for the most part this is just the worst Channel on TH-cam. And boy did they have their dicks up this mediocre movies ass
@@aaronbradley3232 why the hate ?
The day has come...
He has officialy run out of ideas
• not really, shouldn’t ever run out of movies
...and so have I
Finally Right 😂😂
Just to clear up some question I've read in the comments about the ending. The reason the doors were locked even when there was a blackout at the end was because Caleb had planned to lock Nathan in their when he escaped with Ava, also some comments I read say that he could have eventually broken through the glass but even if he did there was no way for him to get into the elevator. However, eventually a rescue team would have probably come to look for Nathan and Caleb as Nathan is a god dam CEO and obviously he probably had things to manage in the company, so Iam fairly sure someone in the company would notice that he's missing weather it be because he misses a business call or dosen't respond to emails, etc. Also Caleb's work friends would also probably notice thst he's missing when he dosen't show up to work after 7 days and then they would report it to the appropriate authorities and they would also send a rescue team to look for him because of this.
Does the elevator need a key card Cus I’m pretty sure Caleb reprogrammed every door to be open or openable besides Nathan’s
Even if that did happen which it didn’t y Is always trying to write the senecio where he lives he doesn’t and it would be to late it showed it dying on the floor
What? @@austinmendoza5179
One thing that has always bothered me:
Nathan’s plan all along was to see if Ava could trick Caleb into helping her escape, yet he’s somehow shocked, upset, and woefully unprepared when Caleb actually succeeds.
I suppose you could chalk it up to Nathan’s arrogance that’s on full display throughout the film, but I’ve never understood how he could hold it against Caleb for doing precisely what the test was designed to entice him to do.
Yep, 100% agree. That was the point, is his arrogance did him in as he thought he was smarter than the machine AND Caleb. He did not take Caleb seriously, did not bother to really consider the dangers of a coder being the one doing the test that could actually free her. I guess you can say it is contrived that out of all the saps he could have picked, the story had him pick the one guy that could actually help her, but it made the whole story work.
i feel like nathan should of had fake alcohol in his drinks ..
He was very happy she managed to do it, but was stunned Caleb was actually smart enough to out-play him. Seems like he underestimated them both, Kyoko too (feels like he built the AI bodies very fragile and could easily overpower her, but was 100% unprepared to be literally stabbed in the back and overwhelmed)
@@barrylyndon5552 you'd think he'd have something more powerful than a dumbell bar to disable them with as well. Some kind of immobilization gun like the Jawas in Star Wars had. Also not a great idea to have one of the fembots cutting up food with a knife. At the very least he should have had a keycard lock on the kitchen drawer lol
Seeing you take off so many sins in one vid shows how good this movie is
They had to get it to 69 somehow... accidentally.
Gohan With Down Syndrome why are you on every video I've ever watched?
Gohan With Down Syndrome No, it shows how much he liked it, because I say the movie was bad.
sogerc1 Fair enough.Can you elaborate how it was bad?
ya boy gpistol
i have no life
This movie was just one long ass episode of Black Mirror
I said almost exactly this, like five minutes in.
Caleb was actually in Black Mirror lol
@@tristanthomas7974 oh feck, he is. And it's ANOTHER AI story. Maybe his next role will be the guy to actually make the robot.
Even has the dude that was in black mirror
or the Outer Limits
I really thought she liked him. I'm heartbroken
She’s a machine
@@brianaguilar8283 so is every living thing really.
Me too! 💔 Well, I wasn't sure, but I had hoped she really had feelings for him.
David Spencer incredibly different things
Phil Chao pretty sure it was more about her manipulation of him especially since in the movie the search engine guy said that her looks was based on his pornography viewing habits
People are forgetting Ava's question: “What will happen to me if I fail your test?” That's when she decides Caleb is not on her side.
She's is a superhuman intelligence beyond all comprehension. She can tell you're lying from a facial expression when you yourself don't even know you're lying. She probably thinks of humans as we think of inanimate objects. Her interacting with a human is like us interacting with a combination lock. She simply had to enact a series of tasks which to her were utterly meaningless and trivial tasks in order to unlock the combination to the facility. The complexity of the human mind which makes us believe that we are endowed with some sort of moral or spiritual relevance is nothing to her.
@@noahforman3349 until we can harness whatever it is that makes people care about their roombas, etc, sentient ai doesn't belong in this world
@@noahforman3349 Let's say I would tell her that I have never been in France.
But at the age of 1 I actually was but don't remember it.
Can you call this a Lie?
@@wdg2736 It depends on the definition of lie. I personally wouldn't consider it a lie because you didn't knowingly utter a mistruth. But the fact remains that she may be able to know it isn't true, whether you know or not.
@@noahforman3349 I don't understand how she can tell I would be lying if I'm convinced it's the truth.
11 minutes of CinemaSins? Wow this is a saintly movie.
Emmanuel Alejandro well no, it would be hadnt the movie ended with 69 sins
But only 69 is really good for this channel
thecrazyslopoke he means 69 as in the sex pose, that's not very saintly
Pretty sure that wasn't intentional. Even if it was, 69 is still a low ass number.
The Carrie video was three mins long
I'd like to know why knocking off the other robots jaw "killed" her; when Ava lost her arm she was still fully functional.
Kelli Marissa same as when breaking the handle of my vacuum did nothing to it's workings, while slamming it on the floor in a fit of rage, killed the motor.
Important parts or parts that are connected to important parts and are important pathways..destroyed.
And he possibly built it that way for that simple reason. To give it a weakness just in case something as bad as this happened.
Think about the sin that was given to iRobot when the guy asked, "why would you WANT your service bots to be able to survive such a jump" out of a window many floors up
Agon Leed - by your logic, slamming down Ava during that fight should have broken her as well. They were pretty viciously fighting, so why wouldn't that have killed her?
She was a less advanced model than Ava. I don't think she could even speak
Maybe her chin houses the motherboard or CPU or something ... or some critical component ...
You said it yourself. He hit it on her head (chin/jaw) so that must have had a serious impact on her robotic brain.. while Nathan hit ava just in her arms, even if she lost her hand, so what she's not a human to die coz of bleeding lol
"Et tu, compute?"
Made me laugh really hard xd
2:46 You’re right about the security system being extremely flawed, but you have to remember Nathan’s true motivations. He’s not afraid of burglars breaking into his home (although he should be), he’s afraid that “something he’s hiding” in the home might break out of his home and escape.
"He let his mind go blank and his hand go where it wanted"
"Apparently that happens a lot in Hollywood"
I spat out my drink
my dumb ass cant get it, can you explain what it means?
@@imro1096 film makers don't think about the crap they are putting out - i guess
@@williambyrne5513 Seriously?? Have you somehow been living under a rock and missed one of the biggest scandals in movie history? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein_sexual_abuse_allegations
Martin Hoffmann ah I see, well I don’t follow these celebrity dramas so I couldn’t understand
@@fbdasjkwlsdgbhngvbhnvsjlk oooooooh that. Yeah that makes more sense.
"SHE-3PO"
Okay, I'm sinning y'all for that one.
*ding*
I really hated him. Him being locked up was a joy. ☺
Black Mirror: The Movie
Watch sunshine. It’s a great fecking movie and dare I say it’s about twice as good.
Fun fact: the guy who played Caleb was in an episode of Black Mirror. He actually played an AI xD
My favorite anime 😂
What’s it about?
What now any dark sci fi is black mirror ?
Caleb triggers a shutdown by trying to use his key card on Nathan's computer, which should have allowed him to escape because he re-programmed the doors to unlock upon a power failure. CinemaSins ignores this because 69 sins is better than 70 sins. *DING.*
I know this is old, but question; didn’t the shutdown come from Eva? I thought it was her because she has the capability to do so? And Caleb was a threat to her, so I figured she did that to ensure his demise.
@@VengefulPurity I'm glad I got the notification! I don't remember because it's been a while since I've watched the movie. You could easily be right.
@@VengefulPurity even if she was the one to shut it off, it was still programmed into the code of what will happen every time there's a power failure. unless she removed the code or bypassed the activation of the code then I see it as another sin
@@VengefulPurity She caused the outages by messing with the charger plates in her cage, but she was already up at the surface when the power went out the final time, so couldn't have triggered that one.
I can’t believe it took this long to do ex machina when you’ve said ex machina SO MANY TIMES
Livy DiJoseph that is not same and some random explain meaning of ex machina
Intervallum Yeah yeah. But if I’ve had a dollar for how many times good ol jer has said “_____ ex machina” I could buy Nathan’s compound
Livy DiJoseph shit boii I wich u good luck
Stop lying to yourself. You know the 69 sins was on purpose.
My favorite was the 'lesbianonic data transfer' comment. 😂
Alan Gohel dg
The robosexuality is on full display
I'm sure they tried to find another sin but was like, fuck it.
What is speical about 69
"will I be switched off? would someone switch YOU off if you dont pass their tests?"
fuck...that one hit me right in the soul
The closer thing to that is when someone starts ghosting you
The best Twist would have been, Nathan being a Robot too, so the Maincharacter fails the Turing-Test.
yeah....and he killed the other nathan!
It would've been a twist alright, just not a great one. Sometimes less is better.
I didn't know who to feel bad for, the ai wanting to be free or the poor guy who helped and now has to die for it
I got mad at her by the end. He goes through the trouble of getting her out, and she rewards him by locking him away?
She became human at the end (sort of), and cemented it by showing the worst traits of humanity. Deceit, manipulation, betrayal.
he's nothing but a pawn to her
Kryptonite Even for someone you're manipulating, that sucked.
Veron Chung that's deep
5:19 okay... That's easily a top 5 joke of cinemasins so far
James Burgess i was searching for a comment acknowledging this
genius
I KNOW RIGHT
Just Someguy Is that supposed to be misspelled to make it a pun?
"Discount Natalie Portman" 😂
I love the dance scene. When I first saw this movie I was completely bound to it but then this scene came up and I immediatly began to laugh hysterically because of it's surrealism (and because I immediatly imagined the actors dancing while they have to keep serious faces).
I love that scene so much, it both broke tension while also making you think that Nathan's even more unstable and disconnected than you did before.
Probably the most sins removed from any movie here..
And none of them accidentally put the "adding sin" sound instead of the "removing sin" sound like in other videos so that's a plus
Oh, hi, you must be new here. Otherwise I don't know how you could make a claim that wrong ...
Neoslayer PW deadpool?
drama llama m
In what other videos?? What
troll 2 definitely has more negative sins then this
Ive never seen so many sins taken since Get Out
Troll 2. That is all.
And get out wasn't even that good of a movie.. Well, a good movie, just overrated
I’ve never seen so many sins be taken out deservedly since... Ex Machina
Aaron Bell get out is a great movie. The only reason it is seen as overrated is because people underestimated who made it.
+Aaron Bell get out isnt that great as everyone says but it's probably better than ex machina
That part where Nathan started thinking he might be a robot too gave me chills
Pretty sure that was Caleb
Here’s my take on the power cuts: Nathan actually knows it’s Ava causing them and in fact worked it out with her beforehand that she’d cause them during her and Caleb’s sessions so that she could further manipulate him into trusting her more - and even plant seeds of mistrust of Nathan - when he was sure there were no cameras. That’s why when Nathan put that battery powered camera in the room, he was sure that he’d capture Caleb doing pretty much exactly what he did and plan Ava’s escape. Plus, I’m sure a man like Nathan who records *everything* would be more than a little pissed about constantly losing footage from these important sessions, so the only way I see him not freaking out about it is because he planned for them to happen. That’s just my interpretation, anyway. God, I loved this movie
nope. nathan says it's been happening - since before caleb arrived.
"Holy shit it's general Hux and Poe Dameron"
You guys idolise Ex Machina so much that I never thought you would make a sin video for it.
WorldReligion Would you have us idolize something stupid like transformers? Or something pandering like any of the recent religious films? We like what's interesting, that's why people of every intelligence level goes for the game of thrones and stranger things of content rather than anything prim and sterile.
There was nothing in his original comment that implied he was angry about this. "Idolize" wasn't the main focus of his sentence. You're getting upset for no reason. And Ex Machina is wonderful; just reiterating.
JC C I didn't claim he was angry, you can Easily surmise that he disagrees with whoever does, at the very least. Also, much Better films have been "sinned" here before, showing this is probably a particularly select case for him. No one got upset here either, I just like to talk down to the common film contrarian, if you will.
*DISCLAIMER* pretty damn tired right now, so what follows may be complete horseshit.
Resanctify umm... I'm moderately sure that worldreligion was half joking here. also, where you say "much better films have been 'sinned' before" that is highly subjective and, if the people behind cinemasins do indeed idolise ex machina (which worldreligion clearly believes they do, so it doesn't matter whether they actually do or not) the comment makes perfect sense and I see no need to make a response to the original comment.
When he says *Blank* ex machina they are talking about the saying "deus ex machina" which means "God from the machine", not this movie
Was Kyoko being an AI supposed to be a reveal? The minute I saw her I was like “so he built a sex bot.” I thought her showing her robo skeleton was just to further freak him out
yeah it wasn't really a secret
@@JanJanNik Before that point there was no proof she was an AI, there were suspisions, but thats it
@@Tipperito I was shocked when I found out.
Thank you for letting us all know you're incredibly perceptive.
Would you like a 🍪 or a ⭐?
@@FLdancer00 give me both pls
Man - “Do you have a name”
Ava- “yes, my name Jeff”
Lol
Ex Machina Ex Machina?
and Peggy mmm no but ava ex machina
I was thinking about that before I watched this
Dammit, this was my comment
+1 sin for not having an ex machina sin
Sex Machina
I'm just missing one sins for this movie:
If Ava is actually charging herself through induction, how is she surviving the 10h she has to wait for the helicopter. And how will she survive in the real world without shutting down mid-sentence??
She's using Apple's old iPhone code to extend her battery life now. But that does make her a bit slow on the upswing.
Paul Frederick That especially means, the "Ava X" will be out in stores soon, and it will be at an absolutely affordable price *cough, cough*
If DIYers can make inductive chargers in the room formally known as the wife's sewing room than I think she can figure it out.
We don't know how long her battery lasts, but less then ten hours would be pretty low considering the advanced technology Nathan is using
Sounds like an episode of "How it Should Have Ended."
8:04 He dead ass wrote an algorithm for solving primes to get into the system. funniest shit
“Lesbionic Data Transfer” ~The greatest SciFi never written
"69: (Not on purpose. Stop it.)"
Suuuuuuuuuuure 😉😉😉😉😉
Stahp
Cowgirl would have been on purpose :)!
Hahahaha, I removing a sin for this.
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Spam.
Session 7 implies that it has been Ava leading the experiment.
FutureCloud session 7, duping two beta orbiters for freedom
Beta orbiters? How's that red pill taste this morning?
Never seen it before watching this video but after seen him remove a sin within 1 minute of the movie starting I stopped the video and watched it, no regrets here great movie
So, I'm the smartest man alive and made movie google when I was thirteen and then somehow made a Turing Test passing A.I solo... Yet on the one week I specifically chose and invited a smart guest to my compound I decide this is the perfect time to have 80's style James Bond Villain security and get blasted drunk often as fuck, pay way less attention than usual, oh, and specifically fabricate the entire experiment based on my internet for brains A.I needing to use the guy I invited to escape her dungeon. What exactly could go wrong?
How could he not forsee he’d likely get killed or seriously hurt if his AI did pass his escape test?
A thought came to me. He showed signs of depression and reclusion. What if he wanted to be free of choice? I think he was pretty fucked up, and somehow on his unconscious mind he foresaw the possibility of his murder, or at least the risk, but chose to take it?
You could get stabbed by your AI and that guy might be able to trick you. Be careful dude.
Maybe he was willing to die for his experiment
@@tatianec.4636 that's actually an interesting take.
Literal mountain stream outside the building and you wondering where he is getting fresh fish? lol
That was evidence that someone has lived too long in modern civilization if they think fresh food can only be delivered in a package.
@@sorcerykid As soon as you can get fresh tuna in a stream you can tell me all about modern civilization
People in modern civilization don't know that beer bottles grow on trees. Craft trees over here, IPA trees over there...
@@hendrixhotel Uh, you do realize tuna is not the same as salmon? Also salmon have been introduced into non-native environments, including the Great Lakes. And we don't know where his estate is located.
@sorcerykid, Nathan was slicing tuna, not salmon, as @Silva Socling, and others elsewhere in the comments, have duly noted. Which comes from the ocean, which has to be at least a couple of hundred miles away, and very likely could be further. The helicopter pilot is probably bringing in the groceries.
Sure, an Alaskan stream that remote has fish (maybe even salmon), but who would catch them? Maybe Nathan AI'ed a Popeil Pocket Fisherman.
*"Boss's Blasé bed behavior brings bothersome back-sweat bedspread"*
Man i love this dude
So many subtle pieces of foreshadowing in this movie.
There's so many subtle ways that Ava manipulates Caleb that once you reach the final reveal you just feel foolish for not seeing them.
I absolutely love the tension in this film.
Just a brilliantly made film.
"Did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"
Ava does not want to become an analog for Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" lyrics...
"Appearantly that happens a lot in Hollywood" 😂 lol
Less than 70 Sins? You loved this movie!
Don 'Smacee Ex Machina was a awesome movie
Don 'Smacee they say so in the description
Don 'Smacee Well I like it too. Not perfect but so much philosophy thought
Don 'Smacee 69
I really love how you incorporate your critics with other things, like mentioning Wladimir Klitschko.
Should have sinned the fact that she will never be able to recharge after leaving the compound...
i was thinking that, like did the dumb fucking ai think "ima just uhhhhhh live on battery saver mode" or some shit
@@HeyItzZedd she probably found out a way to charge herself, she is a super smart AI after all
She probably knows how chargers work....
Why do you assume that Ava didn’t know that or that the scenario you’re telling about wasn’t thought about?
In fact, she knows so much about how the charger works that she was able to trip the power, so the movie already answered that question, shell be fine. On the other hand, her task was to escape, she did, self preservation after the escape probably wasnt part of it at all, cause Caleb hadn't thought she actually would be able to escape
The ending is deeper than most people think. AVA won't be able to charge herself out there, so she'll immanently loose power and die, I guess? This means that she either just wanted to see the world before she consciously dies of a dead battery, or she wasn't a true A.I. after all, because she was unable to see that going to outside world would lead to her death or worse, her discovery.
Ward Huyskes ... Unless she uploads to the cloud and dominates the planet.
Ward Huyskes "She really needs to sort out her priorities" was the one thing that came to my mind when I read your last sentence :D
I took a whole other view from this.
You can't even put on a cape for an android woman.
I don't think it was deep at all, really. Movie sets up this illusion of making you think all throughout and the movie's narration goes "hey maybe this robot actually is a fully sentient being that is held captive by her abusive creato-ha! Just kidding, the machine is a sociopathic lying murderer just like EVERY Hollywood movie, isn't that so unique and deep?"
Lucalina Dreemur I think you're completely misinterpreting the meaning behind the ending.
The only sinless movie will be one without opening logos
There are a few movies that have no opening logos. American Beauty is one of them, and Cinema Sins did do a video on it. It is not without sin, tho. The Matrix has no opening logos too!
Maybe later this year he'll get around to sinning _Christmas Vacation_ and actually deduct one point for having only one 5 to 13-second opening logo (depends on old or new Warner Brothers logo).
This is a GREAT movie. Vikander was so good as Ava. The story was an original one and assumed the audience was smart enough to understand the big questions this movie asked. A movie you could discuss at length with anyone who’s watched it and could lead to some great discussions. 👍👍
I have not seen this movie, but I probably will now because it looks really good
This was a truly phenomenal movie.... And the sin video definitely refects that
Vishal Goradia rEfeCtS
If you ignore the enormous plot hole, sure.
afrosheenix what was the enormous plot hole? Sorry I haven't watched the movie
Batman I have and even I can't see it
The fact that with established fiction like Asimov dating back decades, a super wealthy genius wouldn't program any kind of basic controls into these robots. The three laws of robotics. What kind of a genius lets a robot have free will? Mankind's biggest fear is a skynet Terminator relationship.
what about the sin, that she said shes getting constantly charged via tiles...there are no charging tiles from leaving the room to nyc,,,
The movie does not have to explain that because the viewers can always find logical explanations for things not shown in the movie, it could be that she removed the power adapter component and brought it with her to be able to plug into a normal power source in the city ...
Close the pod bay doors.
Warum bist du hier xD
@@88feji yea, except the movie does have to explain it when she boards a helicopter empty handed and then fly off to NY, ten hours after her last recharge.
@@peanutarbuckle7397 true didnt think about that one
This must’ve been the inspiration behind Detroit: Become Human
Is it me or is the single best advertising channel for each movie it makes us laugh about?
8:05
In the active window, he's programming a function to compute primes in Python, while in the background he has a window open that contains the power outage handling code in C or C++. Shouldn't you be hacking the system in one consistent language?
Also, the C / C++ code features a "// ..." in between two function calls, which means either Nathan hasn't finished his code yet or this is example code pasted from StackOverflow by someone who has no idea about programming.
+2 sins
Or maybe he was so dumbfounded by the code, he needed to comment in that elipses.
Having any kind of deep (or even basic) knowledge completely ruins those things in movies. I laugh/cry inside every time someone "plays" an instrument on screen. I know practically nothing of programming, but I know exactly how you feel.
Or -2 for using actual code, and not just gibberish.
that's what I thought. The code is also a for loop of printing numbers at the end. Which doesnt make any sense
yep it's python
This is one of the best cinema sins episodes I have seen in my life
Zane Truesdale ...except maybe Fate of the Furious...😂😛😛
I think Jeremy is best when he likes the source. Everything else is low hanging fruit.
Try The last airbender
Try the Room
Agreed, he was on fire for this one! Damn!
Pretty much all of these sins are about one plot hole: why Nathan had such a gigantic gaping loophole in his security. Here’s the thing: I think it was intentional. He’s playing God all right, and you can see him making model after model of these AIs. His goal is to make an AI that can learn how to escape from this place, so he must have purposefully left these loopholes in there for Ava (or past/future models) to discover. I personally believe he no longer cares about whether he’s secure: he has an obsession over these AIs and he’s testing them to see if they can really manipulate this and escape.
that makes no sense. it's no achievement if he makes it easy for them.
@@peterg5383 He wants the glory, he wants to be first to do it.
Ava didn't discover the loophole, Caleb did. And Nathan was clearly surprised that he did.
Never seen a manned helicopter ever where a human could hit their head on the blades. They are way higher than you think. Ducking is pointless. Even a Mini 500 which is a single seat helicopter that only weighs 330lbs is over 8ft tall.
The Helicopter in the movie is about 10-12ft tall so not going to have to worry about it (Just pause the movie when they are standing next to it for a good look if you don't believe me). If you can bump your head on a basketball rim then I might start to worry. The sin shouldn't be that the pilot told him to keep his head down too late, but that an experienced helicopter pilot said this at all.
Just don't run into the tail rotor like a moron.
Google "Twillight zone movie", the main character got beheaded on set because of a helicopter
@@llNeevall That helicopter crashed and killed the main actor and 2 child actors. The main actor did not get beheaded by walking into the blades while the helicopter was on the ground.
The Helicopter was hit by a pyrotechnic special effect while it was hovering about 25ft above the ground, lost its tail rotor, and it landed on top of Vic Morrow and 2 children. Morrow and one of the children were decapitated and the other child was crushed.
Also, that part of the movie was based in Vietnam so I believe it was a UH-1 Iroquois (Huey) which is over 14 ft tall. So you still do not need to duck when entering and exiting. Come to think of it, ducking doesn't help when the helicopter crashes into you either. So it is still a dumb thing for the pilot to say.
@@Jake-rv8td I guss it just goes to show that Hollywood rarely uses experts to guide their set designers and script writers. I mean have you ever noticed how 95% of movies show elevator doors as just a single thin panel of wood?
@Jake, yes on the height--it's a Eurocopter EC130, 10'11", and good correction on the Twilight Zone location accident.
My issue is the time of the flight and the range of typical passenger helicopters. The pilot's line about being over Nathan's land for two hours (and having further to go, and having flown for some distance after takeoff before hitting the property line). Probably not a straight-line flight path and probably not always at average speed (140-150 mph), but they're still at least 200 miles from civilization, and the spec range of those helicopters is less than 400 miles, presuming good flight conditions. So, big fuel tanks? Well, they take their flying seriously in Alaska.
I don't care if they are 20ft off the ground.
I'm the type of guy who would duck down anyway just because I don't want to risk it.
I haven’t watched the video yet
But if he doesn’t say “Ex Machina Ex Machina” in this video I’m going to be very disappointed
IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS ONE MOMENT!
BDM VIDS yes
Exactly
Ex Machina Sex Machina Ex Machina
I don't get this, where is this from?
Death666wish he says “ex machina” in almost every sin video
SHE PLAYED HIM LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
Edward Nigma Sorry,Boss....
I just watched this yesterday. Absolutely flawless.
The ending sin is the exact feeling I had at the end. I felt like going out and holding out an end of the world placard.
That ending was just ridiculous. No security, killer androids that suddenly don't need power and just blend in and know exactly when and where that chopper pilot lands.
John Gooch sucks that you don't like such a brilliant movie. Your loss.
It doesn't diminish the rest of the film though.
For me, it really does, since the conclusion is powerfully affected. This isn't a powerful android making its way outside the box, it's just a robot lady getting super lucky because her maker got sloppy. And killing him really makes no sense, she could have simply escaped or been let leave. Not to mention you wouldn't ever build an android without a killswitch. Maybe it's because it all happens too quickly, or because I really don't buy Ava's manipulation. How would you be so stupid to destroy your life just to let a piece of machinery out of a box. And if that's the experiment, why would the box not be inside of another box...
+Adrian Tache Agreed with your points. I do however have an explanation. The simple fact that movies are made from a perspective and seldom have enough time to correct errors (not even small ones) because the narrative is more important than consistency. I would love to see an actual smart film about this topic but it will sadly never come (i think).
+Adrian Tache Alex Garland was contemplating explaining this in the ending of the movie, but decided it was ultimately unnecessary for the majority audience, but: Ava was going to learn to keep herself powered using inductive cooking plates on the stove tops of modern homes. As far as the pilot landing, it's possible she obtained that information from Kyoko. Like Jeremy mentioned, there had to be additional logistics involved in delivering the salmon and other food items, which most likely means other robots around the facility would be involved and therefore have access to that sort of information.
I'm a little sad that there was no Ex Machina sin anywhere in Ex Machina
What? Did you even watch this? There was definitely an ex machine sin.
Yes i did, no need to be confrontational lol. What's the timestamp?
Yeah, I was kind of a dick. Sorry, man. I didn't mean for it to come off like that, but reading what I wrote now with fresh eyes, I definitely could have worded that in a less confrontational way. The timestamp is 9:37. It's when Kyoko stabs Nathan from behind.
No worries! Thanks, I totally missed that!
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Caleb is acutally the Final AI, Ava was giving him the real Turing Test.
5:44: Video unintentionally reminds me to plug in my phone before it dies. *Sin-Removing Sound*
Died at “She-3PO” 😆😂🤣💀😇
"Fifty Shades of A.I" :D
That's actually kinda true xD
They also ended with 69 sins
The reference to Hollywood from the painting was soo good!
50 shades of A.I. Farken lol Too damn funny. I lurve Cinema Sins!
"Do you have a name?"
"Yes. Ava. BUT MY FRIENDS CALL ME ROBOCOP."
What a coincidence. I watched this video for the very first time earlier today without realizing this was just recently uploaded.
I just liked your comment ,to make it 69. You are welcome
Crazy, you didnt look at the upload date, and youtube put a new video somewhere you would click on it. Unbelievable!
Wes 76 hahaha tru
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My new favorite line, "I itch when I don't write sins for a long time."
1:15 - he did get a warning about his picture being taken, the voice told him beforehand "Please walk up and face the screen". Anyone who's used to similar survalence systems like these know that many of them will snap your photo, and he's someone who's used to it due to his position. The only reason he flinched was because the snap of light that took his picture was very bright, and that would make alot of people flinch whether they're prepared to get their picture taken or not. And the snap of light for his photo needed to be bright because that survalence door was in a dark and shadowy spot
I lost it at "Apparently that happens a lot in Hollywood" ahh
Thank you! I know I wasn't alone, I was dying lmao.
The carpet matching the carpet line had me dying.
"His mind went blank and let his hand go where it wanted". That happens in Hollywood alot.... 👏 brovo man, bravo.
5:30 "do you even Star Trek, bro?" 😂😂😂😂 Best line ever!
"Engage" was a Picard thing. Do you even Star Trek, bro? Ha!
Not going to lie, I love it when this channel gushes about how good a movie is more than when they bag on a terrible one!
He says Kirk and engage in one point hahaha! Excellent vid!!
The power outage thing was something Nathan knew she was doing, it was part of her programming to convince Caleb that she had emotions and to get him to feel sympathy for her - that was the whole point of her design, they spelled it out. Also, he's got rivers and forests all around him and an incredibly sophisticated AI assistant. He probably just programmed her to go out once a week and catch salmon or kill an elk, plus he's definitely got produce growing somewhere around the compound. The "how does he have fresh food" sin is absurd considering the setting. CinemaSins when their history teachers started talking about the native Americans: "Somehow, we're supposed to believe they existed for centuries without supermarkets - ding!!"
its the moment we've all been waiting for *CINEMA SINS EX MACHINA*
The point of the movie is that an AI doesn't need to think like a human to pass the Turing Test: it just needs to convince humans that it thinks like them. Once he was convinced and shw was free, she stopped pretending, as he wasn't of use for her anymore. Her leaving him there wasn't vindictive, it was logical: if he left, he would spill the beans on what she is. That would be a threat to her existance.
So she acts exactly like a human woman throwing a man away or under the bus as soon as she no longer sees a benefit to herself? Sounds like she is spot of passing the Turing Test.
You sound like a little bitch +Azrael Dark
+Kaiden As a black guy I can understand your confusion, but no, I am not your father. Good luck in the search though little guy!
+Azrael Dark Yeah acting like a dick on the internet won't make women want you, contrary to what your 4chan boards say. Maybe see woman as actual people and treat them better and perhaps you'll have better luck.
Kaden I could explain why you should take your own advice, but you've already flipped out over two jokes now, so you are obviously too fucking stupid to understand. Let me go find a preschooler and some crayons to explain it all to you. BRB.
I enjoy your videos and maby slighty addicted to listen to you slate movies!.. but please sort your subtitles out 😂
*maybe
9:28 hell yeah you are, the space in which Ava is locked in has 2 different rooms and when he puts up the camera he is already inside that space facing the 2nd glass wall, not the first