I became a kpopper in 2014 but while watching SHINee's variety shows I started at the oldest one, so I also have that kind of nostalgic feeling and of course I started to find out about other kpop groups, I feel like it really was the golden era, but I dont feel like I missed it. Just like I catched up with it really late
My first artist was Son Dambi in 08' and yeah, I really miss that era, and it's kind of uncomparable no matter how good the new talent is, Just doesn't really pop that little kid out of me any more.
i miss kpop in 2009.. it was a golden year of kpop!! I became a kpop fan in that year.. a lot of amazing songs & groups too. tvxq, super junior, ss501, big bang, shinee, 2pm, 2am, u-kiss, mblaq, beast, ft-island, cn-blue, snsd, 2ne1, f(x), t-ara, kara... i miss their time :(
OLD KPOP FOR THE WORLD!! Always and forever older kpop. Third generation is meh... sure they're getting more attention, but only because second generation sent the Hallyu Wave and now kpop is more known. But those new fans who don't know and bash the older groups, shame on you, you missed the legends. Back in the second generation I remember all these shows where they would get together and how you could tell the close relationships between the groups. Man, how I miss the second generation, when there weren't as many crazy fans and less fan wars.
The fan wars are so bad! I don't think it's a good thing! Like... Everyone has a different opinion. And everyone has the right for an own opinion so no need for fan wars. But i think that the new kpop isn't bad! Like i love 2ne1 so much and snsd and exo. But i have never listened to TVXQ. Are they good???
I don't really listen to the older generation kpop, but I respect them, and I acknowledge that they started the Hallyu Wave. New fans should be grateful.
Denica Kotorova Yeah give TVXQ a listen. Their old songs were good (when they were a 5 member band) however, I love their new songs as a duo! They have some really good songs :) Fighting!
this!. i remember shows like idol dance battle where snsd, 2pm, suju, beast and so on would be on the same variety show (what are the chances of that happening again). now there's so many groups that i don't even are anymore. sure there will be new kpop songs that are better but i want the whole package of kpop not just the music
88tazler88 Or groups of men dancing the dances of women and vice versa in SBS Gayo Daejun 2009- BEAST/2pm doing MR-Kara, CL doing GD... or in the dance battles, Suju doing Genie and SNSD Sorry Sorry.
Old is Gold 😌 the music quality in the past is more better than now also their clothes.. nowadays kpop more focus to dance,hiphop and rnb(?) so yeah..Old kpop win it
Kpop songs now really more into american music standard, hip hop and trap, which makes kpop songs not unique and lost its originality. The good thing is, kpop become more and more diverse and experimental
One of the saddest thing while watching this video is that... when you realized that most of the old kpop groups mentioned, have lost member(s) or even worst disbanded. I felt like smiling... but some of the groups arent the same anymore. time does flies very fast. i miss them. the old is cringy, have lots of weird fashoin and low budget mv but hey.... thats what make it special. less fanwars, amazing variety shows... & great bond between the groups. nowadays? massive fanwars & fierce competition between the groups that could cause major rivalry .
And that will eventually happen to the new groups today..years from now people will forget about them as more new groups debut and time changes..when you think about it, being an idol is a short term career unless they go into acting and it sucks because they train for a long time
THE OLD KPOP WILL BE THE BEST FOREVER. Who remember Star King, Idol Army, Oh my school, Idol maknae rebellion, Star Golden Bell? 2008-2010 was the best era in the kpop, now is just a so plastic a comercial genre with that matter is to be cute and swag, old kpop FIGHTING!!
+Love me well that's your opinion and I respect it but OLD Kpop will never be forgotten. Idols out there back then was so carefree and their much happy. Now, more idols got disband or leave the group
I think what has a lot of veteran kpop fans nostalgic is the gradual change we've seen. I mean we've seen groups debut, groups break up, song styles change. Newer kpop fans only know what's become more mainstream and what's current. Music is always changing and sometimes it's hard to let go and keep up with it.
Mei Tachibana You have a friend here, just i know too much about EXO because Instagram, if you one and follow pure K-Pop accounts everyday you will see something about EXO and BTS. Personally, i'm not EXO-L but i learned to like Suho and Chanyeol and i think i'm loving Bangtan already xd. Anyway, various of my favs are very little known for many newer fans xd.
DokuraChannelBK Bangtan are a really great band! the reason why they started is different from the other groups and they only follow status quo because if they didn't they wouldn't be liked as much and then in result paid less.
I'm not army I'm a VIP/Shawol yeah it's pretty sad as i am a new Kpop fan and mostly I don't rlly know old Kpop groups cause I haven't found out about them plus, school....
Vote BTS In SOOMPIE AWARDS same i known them since 2009 including shinee Bigbang suju mblaq ukiss ft island snsd 4minute beast and some of these groups already disbanded i wish people experience the golden years of kpop
2nd generation kpop is the best!!! 4minute 2ne1 beast 2pm Infinite BEG Girls generation Big Bang Wonder girls Afterschool Sistar Miss a MBLAQ Super Junior IU Ukiss ZEA SECRET and more!! I loved how they would sing each others songs, dance and go on variety shows together! You rarely see it with the 3rd generation except of ViXX and BTOB
I grew up with kpop like I started being a fan since 2009 and I have seen alot of idols grow. it's sad cuz ppl forget some of the legends. some groups have graduated. some become popular to not so popular and it's sad. some stayed in the same level of course but I just hope they will bring back the variety shows where everyone gathered around to have fun and dance. but now it's all about being sexy and winning.
same here.,I discovered kpop late 2008 and loved it at 2009.,I feel you.,everything's "too serious" now.,staying away from the light days.,I miss that era.,,
I've been listening to K-pop for almost 17 years now, since the debut of Fin.k.l (fyi, the legendary group where Lee Hyori was the leader) and i dare to say, the old kpop you're referring to is not that old, they're pretty new. i'll say the real old kpop is from the debut of seo taiji and boys to the disbandment of h.o.t in 2001 and one year later of s.e.s. That was the end of the first group wave, and the raise of ballad songs at the same time. Then in 2005 came the second wave of new groups, i.e. csjh, SNSD and Suju. (TVXQ as a 5 men group, the kings of the period, was formed in 2003 though), till a bigger and more profound third wave from 2008-09 (2pm, shinee, 2ne1, 4minute, t-ara, f(x), after school all debuted these two years), until now. The first wave was when kpop got its popularity in Asia (except japan perhaps, for its reluctance to accepting new and foreign stuff). The third wave gains the highest international attention, so if youre new to the kpop scene, you probably find the first two three years of the third wave already "old".
I thought a lot of it sounded the same, but newer kpop isn't much different. There's lots of generic songs and concepts being used all the time righ now too.
I think you're just new to KPop, if we are talking about old KPop, we meant legends that started the KPop wave from the 90's, and it was more diverse back then coz most idols back then had their own balloon colors representing every group's fans, just saying.. and vocals from the past were much powerful and dance moves back then were also tiring, not to mention they didn't need to wear heavy makeup just to look nice in camera.
Mei Tachibana me too!! I became a fan of kpop too late to experience them when they were together :( and then that big thing happened with Kim Hyun Joong. UGH haha but I'm a huge fan of Vixx and Big Bang and EXO and several others. but I've only been listening for about a year now.
Tbh, imo, if you weren't living the "old kpop" era yourself, you won't get the same feelings for the old songs like you would for the "new kpop" songs if you're a new kpopper. I feel like you had to be there at the time to get the full feelings from the old ones. I'm so so glad I was already into kpop to experience all the old songs because I have new-kpopper friends who don't understand how amazing the old songs are. Thankfully I was able to experience both the old and new. ^^
Yup..I agree with you...Sometimes i really miss the old one..i start love kpop since 2006 start with rain first and infected to dbsk,suju n big bang n more...But now i getting slow,i'm not obses like 4 years ago..But i still love kpop😄😄😄😄
+Anee Mato I'm Chinese, and I remember back when I was in primary school (lol, I know:), every girl in my class was crazy about TVXQ... I'm kind of sad that the pre-2006 era wasn't even mentioned
kpop's golden era: 1990s-2000s 2001-2006 2007-2012 no fanwars all groups are able to collab with fans bashing and attacking Now: 2013-present fans attacking idols have almost no privacy,scandalous especially 2014 but kpop still has catchy songs hehe for me i think the best years were 2009 to 2012 and im more into the senior groups(those who debuted it 2000s-2012₩
@@yunjin910 but at least back than idols were vocal about what things of fans they didn't like and which idol or celeb they like or wanna date and all... Now the idols, even when mobbed or attached by fans have to keep smiling and show that everything is fine... Also with all the toxic fans and intense fanwars, it's hella possible that idols still get poisoned and physically attached and all, it's just they have to hide it and have to SHOW love to their FANS🙃🙃🙃 This is the problem now, idols can't even express themselves... Of course there were fanwars and fan fights back then, even physical ones, or idols were abused, but the rude and problematic ones got sued too, BY THE IDOLS, unlike now a days, where if idols act against problematic fans, they are called rude and hated(like Yuta, Doyoung and many more, even Chanyeol was hated for suing fans who LITERALLY tried ruining his image and career, TXT were hit by their own manager besides being mobbed by fans, but still!! it's the idols who were hated!!!) Who knows what our favs go through in their daily lives?!?! We just see what they want to show us!! They are for sure hiding many dark things from us and know what?? This is why 2ns gen was comparitively better!!
I'm kinda glad that SHINee hasn't changed much in their music along with EXO, even though some members left EXO those two groups stayed true to their own style of music as far as I can tell
'Old' K-Pop is basically 'the heart' of Korean wave, but 'new' K-Pop is my generation... so i cannot choose, anyway i know both generations have fantastic and unforgettable songs :3. Btw, i would like one of these videos but with old school(1992 - 2004) kpop songs, that's would be amazing :D :3.
i think kpop are all the same generation. as long as you listen to kpop, you have a chance to listen to all the songs. if there is really "old kpop", then it would be those 1999-2007 songs SES or H.O.T.
I miss the past suju, snsd and exo, but i still look forward to their future comeback, exo did a great job for their latest comeback but... *sigh* my bias Tao....hope everything is ok 😪
2009 was the year I got into kpop... after 2 years entered college....after 2 years.. got back to kpop again... once you're in, you can never get out XD
Having been around K-pop for almost 10 years now, its hard to say which i prefer, because the "old" K-pop is what i grew up with and what got me into K-pop, so there is a level of nistalgia listening to it and love that cannot be replaced, while the new songs and rookie groups debuting i am getting to follow from the beginning, so i have attatchments to them as well, and they are all talented. The music is definitely changing with the times, but it will always have that K-pop spirit that we know and love.
Ume Takajima i agree like where is g.o.f, s.e.s and fin.k.l and all others real veterans of kpop.. theyr the first generation of kpop groups and compared to them those groups whos listed as old kpop are pretty new groups
2014 for me is starting to feel like old Kpop all over again tbh, so many good groups that debuted that year. Mamamoo, Red Velvet, Lovelyz, Winner, GOT7, G-Friend (technically, they're 2015 but meh). These groups give me the 2009 modernized vibes.
why do people hate sexy concepts so much?? nothing is wrong with them. you guys are acting like there was never any sexy concepts in 2009 or something. why not just appreciate kpop while you still have it? not all groups are "trying to be sexy to get attention" btw. you seriously can't just suddenly dislike "new kpop" because of that. -.-
I agree with this so much. And they're acting like its only kpop that's gotten sexier, but really it's like that with most things in this day and age regardless of country; music, movies, sometimes even ads. These people are probably in their early 20's but they're acting like freaking 80 year olds smh.
Because well, in my opinion. . The sexy concept was less sexy than now Now I feel like. . They're just like. . . Hollywood? And I actually hate Hollywood. So when I see them trying to be a bit like them. . Idk I don't like it Unlike before, they had their own style and concepts Idk really, that's just my opinion
Agree 👍👍👍👍 It was the year when soooo many iconic Kpop songs came out, also the many duos and groups debuted that year, and not to mention soooo many good collabs and performances that we saw😍😍 I just miss those dayssss
For me I kinda dislike new kpop bc so many kpop groups are trying to hard to be sexy. Spreading their legs, shaking their butts, thrusting, etc. is unnecessary. It's supposed to be about their singing!! And also some of my biases left/got kicked out.
From 2021's perspective even the new kpop in this video is old kpop. And all these songs and groups have that feeling of nostalgia that is kind of hard to explain.
I don't know why some people say that "just because they're new fans doesn't mean they don't know old songs" no one said that clearly here's TH-cam for every single old song for them to travel through. What most of us old kpoppers are saying is that you're not going to have that same feel watching old songs now because you didn't grow up listening to kpop like that. I've been a kpop fan for about 8 years now and I first discovered SHINee and ever since then I've been a shawol since then I started to listen to other groups such as suju, snsd, 2ne1, f(x), tara, mblaq, infinite etc, honestly it was the best era in my opinion it was basically the second generation of kpop and they made it big internationally and spread that definition of hallyu across the board but like we said new kpop fans would not really feel how we felt when we used to watch this stuff when it was brand new. Yes a new kpop fan can know as many old songs as we old kpoppers do but they aren't getting that nostalgic feeling we get when watching it now and remembering watching it back when it was new.
pie itsalana I totally agree! I'm an old kpoper, old VIP! and i found the old kpop songs especially the B's song Haru Haru is from the golden era ! The new kpop fan won't get it or feel as we felt back then when the favourite band do a comeback or appear in a show! all i can say is OLD BUT GOLD! the old kpop is much better then the new
Umayma yea like people say "everything was weird back then" well first of all everything was old back then and during that time THAT WAS THE FASHION AND TRENDS so no one can even speak on that. And old kpop is definitely better than new and I think that's because of the amount of older groups I know
Honestly, I started being a Kpop fan in about March last year. My first song that I took interest in was Lucifer. It's not like new Kpop fans today don't listen to the Kpop released back in 2008 ~ 2012. Although I'm no expert, I can just see the evolution of music in all parts of the world. Some genres are getting worse, some are getting better. The thing is, I don't look at dates in Kpop videos. I just Watch. You know what I'm saying? I enjoy it and I get the good vibe off of it new or not. Sure, things are different but I feel like the original aspects of Kpop still lives on in songs today. It just happens, things just change. Technology, the "trends," everything... The things I get from new Kpop videos gives me the same feelings as watching old Kpop videos. I don't know if this is just me but even if things do change, I feel the same because there are artists out there who put out the most wonderful songs no matter when it was released.
Name I found out about Lucifer because of TheFineBros ^.^ Their videos sometimes introduce a whole new world to people, it's nice. I got addicted to SHINee and from SHINee, it spread to EXO, F(X), SNSD, BTS, Vixx, Super Junior and so on. I can never stop watching Kpop, it's crazy XDD
EXO - Locket lol. I went from 60's and 70's (beatles, queen) music to kpop . I had heard about the fact that once you get into kpop, there's no escaping. so I looked on finebros too to see what kpop was like. ... they were right .>.
2009 was the best year for girl group debuts: After School, 4minute, f(x), 2NE1, T-ARA, and Secret all had successful debuts. Since then most debuts have been ignored until this year 2015. A new generation of girl groups are becoming popular from debut: Lovelyz, G-Friend, Oh My Girl, Sonamoo, CLC are having successful debut as well. I hope 2015 continues to be a great year for debuts
Sonamoo's debut was not successful, they got recognised internationally but in Korea their sales were really low compared to Red Velvet and Lovelyz etc.
Star Yeon Their debut was anticipated because they were from TS, which holds Secret and B.A.P(former). So they're a rookie group with potential. of course Red Velvet and Lovelyz started off well being sistergroups of big boy groups so they already had a big fanbase(mostly fangirls) to start with
Kpop Lover what ?? Tvxq split was one of the most scandalous event in kpop. Three members did a lawsuit against SM then left and formed a new group caller JYJ while two members stayed and are still in TVXQ. TVXQ currently are a duo of Yunho and Changmin.
This is just what I notice: Old kpop: Though it is influenced by J-pop and has western elements, when you see the MVs and hear the songs, you can identify it as Kpop. Heck, even my non kpop friends identified the old kpop as kpop. New kpop: The MVs and the songs look and sound like American...but sang in korean. This is just my opinion though.
Old Kpop boy groups for me is SHINee TVXQ and BigBang and new Kpop for me is BTS GOT7 and EXO. Girls it's - 4Minute SNSD for old and new EXID F(X) and Red Velvet
Legendary DB5K :) they are absolutely the Number 1 in Kpop History, they are so much far from the other (except BigBang, Suju, Beast - this is just vvhat I think). the nevv Kpop is pretty good but compare to Legendary is still a long vvay to go :) but cheer for all of Kpop band
I know! I am still pissed that SM was so money hungry that they wont allow the members to promote the beauty brand and not give the three members a raise. If I was CEO, I would give them a much better contract and offer! They were popular in Japan for god sake! It's vey hard to kpop groups to make it big in Japan. Not only that, but whole Asia, SE Asia loved them. They were money making gods for SM. All 5 were very strong, they can sing and dance, at the same time, live! so well trained. SM just let them go.... Stupid decision. They were the end of the an era for kpop, and honestly SM havent been able to reproduce their success.
thisCLUMSYgirl it's not because you're not "old", it's just that most KPop fans these days won't tend to check them out or they be like ooh yes they are legends yet they know nothing about these guys from the 90's, I got to Kpop in 2004 but I honestly love the 1st generation KPop more than ever. It's also obvious that most KPop fans these days can't even mention older groups besides TVXQ, Suju and etc.
I'm so thankful to be a part of the older generation. (not that the new generation was bad) but back then we had boy and girl band collaborations (super-generation) and awesome variety/talk shows.
I actually feel like newer songs are more diverse in style as kpop becomes more global and producers experiment with different genres. I love old kpop classics but new kpop excites me because it just seems like there's a wider variety of sounds now. Eg. we're getting mixtures of trap, r&b, reggae, deep house, retro throwbacks, orchestral, brass sounds, etc. Personally feel like 2015 was the year when k-pop really transitioned into something fresh.
Bam Z Official she's talking about the influence American music had on Korea. It was very influential if you look at bigbangs la la la . And some of kpop copied the same sound as some American songs so yes it was hun
***** exo are the 3rd generation . why is this so hard to admit //sigh , exo , red velvet for sm , btob clc for cube , even Apink are the 3rd generation , and they debuted earilier than exo . the 2nd generation are : TVXQ , SUJU , SS501 , SNSD , SHINee , ft island , KARA , T-ara , MBLAQ , U-kiss , BEAST , and a lot of other groups
***** omg I'm so sorry I replied to the wrong person ; ; just exo-ls are everywhere and they just keep saying that they're 2nd generation as if they are and it's frustrating for an old kpop fan like me , and sorry neh ~
DBSK and SS501 brought me into Kpop and I'm still stuck in 2008-2012... Those hit groups in the past are forgotten by people(never for "old" fans but most of the fans are "new", these days). I'm amazed when some fans calling themselves "hardcore Kpop fans" literally don't know DBSK used to have 5 people, forever legends groups like SS501/Shinhwa, and even active groups like Infinite and BEG!!
DokuraChannelBK It should have the titel 2nd generation vs 3rd generation..and THEN..i think groups of 2011 aren't old enough for 2nd generation.. xD Or Groups till 2010 vs 2011~ something like this..for me till 2010 is different to the Groups later 2010.. xD
Honestly I consider "old kpop" groups like HOT,SES,Shinhwa,god etc but I think the 2nd generation of kpop with groups like BIGBANG,2ne1,Wonder Girls,2PM,Suju,SNSD,DBSK,Shiner etc. are the best generation of kpop and all the new groups should learn from them cause they made kpop what it is
"Old kpop " 2008 till 2010? Thats not right lol to me old kpop is the 1990s.... but we all started at different years so its ok i guess lol (btw shinee rules ☆☆☆☆☆)
Andrew Tuan the reason why they're well known is because most groups from the 90s broke up already since the KPop scene was much harder in the 90s, and stricter since doing solo activities will make you look like a betrayer so it's like.. they can't pursue their solo careers until they broke up :(
nekochii00 Old kpop for me started in the 80's, lol. For my parents, it was the 60's and 70's. But I get it, the 90's was a significant decade with the pivotal, group ,서태지와 아이들 (Seotaeji boys) debuted.
Star Yeon when you said "they brought all the crazy fans..." ,it seemed like you were implying that exo did it purposely. It's true there's been A LOT of crazy fans ,but exo didn't mean to lure them to kpop.
AJisFalling Like I said before, I know that they didn't directly bring in crazy fans. I'm stating a fact, they have a lot of crazy fans and many of them are in kpop because of them. Can you stop making me repeat myself now?
Honestly I don't think much has changed. The Kpop crazy styles, catchy music, etc. is still there. The videos are just more HD and have better production overall. Idols aren't seen doing as much casual, fun work but they do get to work hard and more and more groups are beginning to write their own songs and therefore are earning a new, more creative form of freedom. The only BIG change I see are the people watching kpop. It's gotten so much international attention that fan bases are changing drastically. The down side is there are more haters, gossip, and scandals. I just wish people would come into this lovely kpop world with respect for the music bringing only good intentions. This is what I miss about the "old" kpop, the supportive fans.
2008, 2009.. you call that old? I wouldn't call that the old kpop. "old" kpop is more like songs from hot, god, nrg, sechskies, seo taiji, and all. so like, songs from 1990-2000. I wouldn't even call that old at all. 2009 is only 6 years ago, that's not that old.
I like the new kpop better honestly. I've never really liked cute aegyo songs like "Gee" and "Marshmellow" which were most girl group songs back then. That and a lot of MVs back then seem very outdated. Also, a feel that a lot of groups back then were searching for an image and concept that best fit them. For instance, bigbang have developed a more hardcore, cool image since "Haru Haru". That being said, I do still appreciate the classics like "Abracadabra" and "Sorry Sorry".
& the electronic weird pop is out & groups can express themselves better now like Bts' new albums have all this r&b stuff on them & they can attract outsiders super easily.
I started listening to Kpop in 2013 and as much as I love the new Kpop the stuff from before 2013 just takes the cake. The music released back then was the best stuff the industry has seen for most groups.
i got into kpop in 2011, and 2012 was really the height of my fandom peak. one thing i've noticed is the over saturation in the industry now - it's always been there, but it's a lot more noticeable now than it used to be. also, the fandom is a lot more divided than it used to be. like...would 4th generation fans be able to have a laugh about waffurs or something if they weren't extreme mblaq stans? bad example, but.
Oh i miss Old Kpop soo much T__T i miss BoA T_T TVXQ T.T,SS501,Big Bang~~!!CN Blue with songs like im a Loner, old Shinee,even Suju for me is not the same..there were some songs that u just cant forget o.o or get bored.Like Rainism,Mirotic,bonamana or sorry sorry ,abracadabra,gee and so on :D though there are some new songs that i rlly rlly like too !old school is old school~)i think what is bad in new kpop is that a lot of songs sound alike or are too...loud (?)...or something ull like,listen 3 times and get bored x)
nah , i mean on the video . it shows that 2NE1 song GO AWAY and COME BACK HOME . these two mv , show that they covered not exposed like other mv on this vid
I like the both ... 'cuz i like all the groups and i really Luv the new rookies groups like bts or exo and I'm a big fan of the "old kpop" like Suju shine or infinite
Altough new Kpop is fun and good, I miss the old Kpop so much. Kpop nowadays likes to show something bolder, girls getting sexier, boys getting scarier.. I started to watch Kpop in 2009, I was captured by Super Junior, SS501 (now SS301), SNSD, Wonder Girls, 2PM, and more. That's why I really miss those times. Many things change :(
New Kpop will always be the better music. Half of y'all are blinded by nostalgia lmfao. New Kpop is more diverse, has muuuuch better production and variety, and the god awful autotune is gone. I also found old Kpop a little more lifeless (there are exceptions ofc) There ARE amazing old Kpop songs obviously, but overall, Kpop is better now and will continue to improve just as music does.
Maggie Tran Is their debut song... this song was released in October of 2009... and later they had another promotion with Mystery of the same album-B2ST is the Best since December-January of 2010 :)
this is the golden era of kpop,i've been a kpop fan since 2015, but I do love this era i'd never listen to the new one except to yg artist,but I keep coming to the old one's . #fighting 2nd generations #Golden #era #is #LOVE!
I definitely think their was a unique element to Kpop in the past that just made it distinct to other forms of music. It is the thing that got me into Kpop in the first place. There was more melody, personality, charisma and catchiness. Just listen to BoA's old music and tell me that stuff doesn't want to make you dance. However, I do acknowledge the fact that newer Kpop also has some hidden gems and does sound like it could be older Kpop music (hint hint: G-friend).
I came into the KPOP scene for the 1st time ever early last year, and I've definitely grown with the rookies of 2013 & 2014 more than older groups I have seen most of those older songs and it's hard to decide old or new, because I really love both; some older songs are better while some newer songs beat the older songs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm more at comfort with the newer kpop scene, so I like that a bit better by a little like I really like Haru Haru and a lot of SHINee's & TVXQ's (as well as their new ones) earlier songs but I would consider early 2000's - 2010 old kpop & 2011-2014 new; I honestly don't find 2012 to be old kpop, it only happened 2yrs ago... that's not that old >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have watched a lot of old kpop MV's the thing that I don't miss it the crappy TH-cam quality or the smaller screens; what I do miss is the sound of that older music, after all it's the foundation of what kpop music is today. but seriously I love both old and new XD this is also coming from a younger person
I feel so old, i don't know half of these groups from the "new kpop" xD When I click on the video, mentioning "old kpop" I though about the 1st generation like Shinhwa, H.O.T, 1TYM, S.E.S, Fly to the Sky... Can't believe I saw TVXQ, Super Junior, Big Bang, 2NE1, SS501, Girl's Generation (and many more)....debut and they now belong to the "old generation" lol
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2009 was the Golden Age of Kpop :x
Couldnt agree more!
agree!
exactly
What about the 1990's to early 2000's?
Shenron Elder Dragon Their consider the Legendary/Legends: S.E.S, H.O.T, God and etc.
The most sadly of this is that the new fans will never know how awesome was the golden era, and they don't be respectful to this.
I became a kpopper in 2014 but while watching SHINee's variety shows I started at the oldest one, so I also have that kind of nostalgic feeling and of course I started to find out about other kpop groups, I feel like it really was the golden era, but I dont feel like I missed it. Just like I catched up with it really late
mmm I discovered kpop in 2012 but i wasn't really into this music since last year more or less, and I think both old and new are amazing :)
im a kpopper since 2009 and srsly im feel so old now, i even know the half of the new kgroups like red velvet, twice, seventeen, etc
+ParkAhrii mee too !! my first korean group is super junior
My first artist was Son Dambi in 08' and yeah, I really miss that era, and it's kind of uncomparable no matter how good the new talent is, Just doesn't really pop that little kid out of me any more.
Old K-pop for me, it seems more unique.
Agree.
Agree
Now all kpop songs sound the same
i miss kpop in 2009.. it was a golden year of kpop!! I became a kpop fan in that year.. a lot of amazing songs & groups too.
tvxq, super junior, ss501, big bang, shinee, 2pm, 2am, u-kiss, mblaq, beast, ft-island, cn-blue, snsd, 2ne1, f(x), t-ara, kara... i miss their time :(
OOOOLLLLLDDDDD!!!!! :(((((((
+Khwan Thitakhwanporn Jiarapan lol me too, I became a real kpop fan on late 2012 but all I knew was 2009 kpop and idk i miss it as well
I love how you mention SS501 tripleS here~ second gen kpop is the best
Same here... Those groups has stronger appeal than todays group
I just knew kpop at 2012 but i love all kpop since 2009
OLD KPOP FOR THE WORLD!! Always and forever older kpop. Third generation is meh... sure they're getting more attention, but only because second generation sent the Hallyu Wave and now kpop is more known. But those new fans who don't know and bash the older groups, shame on you, you missed the legends. Back in the second generation I remember all these shows where they would get together and how you could tell the close relationships between the groups. Man, how I miss the second generation, when there weren't as many crazy fans and less fan wars.
The fan wars are so bad! I don't think it's a good thing! Like... Everyone has a different opinion. And everyone has the right for an own opinion so no need for fan wars. But i think that the new kpop isn't bad! Like i love 2ne1 so much and snsd and exo. But i have never listened to TVXQ. Are they good???
+Denica Kotorova They were for the 2nd K-pop generation, EXO is today for third. So listen it.
DokuraChannelBK ok :)
I don't really listen to the older generation kpop, but I respect them, and I acknowledge that they started the Hallyu Wave. New fans should be grateful.
Denica Kotorova Yeah give TVXQ a listen. Their old songs were good (when they were a 5 member band) however, I love their new songs as a duo! They have some really good songs :) Fighting!
Gods of KPOP = Tvxq
Kings of KPOP = BIGBANG
Goddesses of KPOP = GG
Queens of KPOP = 2NE1
+cRaZyBaBy96KT GODS Of KPOP= Turbo King=KJK
+iPwned oh gosh going all the way to the 90s ...?? We'd be here all day, I'm talking about the new era of KPOP. :)
+cRaZyBaBy96KT
YAS FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
but i disagree, BoA should also be a goddess with SNSD
+Janelle Rudolph tbh I don't really know BoA (-_-) but I heard that she was always very popular.
cRaZyBaBy96KT She spread the Hallyu wave along with DBSK. she was super popular check her out :)
Lucifer was my first kpop song. It's so weird to see it on the old list
Lucifer was mine as well :3
Me too 💯
Am i the only one who still love SHINee Lucifer?
Nope, I watch it everyday
+Percy Jackson same
+Percy Jackson same:D
Always! The early SHINee years were the best!!!
Same
Old kpop had more love together like a family . New kpop is eh
this!. i remember shows like idol dance battle where snsd, 2pm, suju, beast and so on would be on the same variety show (what are the chances of that happening again). now there's so many groups that i don't even are anymore. sure there will be new kpop songs that are better but i want the whole package of kpop not just the music
88tazler88 Or groups of men dancing the dances of women and vice versa in SBS Gayo Daejun 2009- BEAST/2pm doing MR-Kara, CL doing GD... or in the dance battles, Suju doing Genie and SNSD Sorry Sorry.
Agreed.
agreed +1
Agree
Old is Gold 😌 the music quality in the past is more better than now also their clothes..
nowadays kpop more focus to dance,hiphop and rnb(?)
so yeah..Old kpop win it
Agree
I agree
Kpop songs now really more into american music standard, hip hop and trap, which makes kpop songs not unique and lost its originality. The good thing is, kpop become more and more diverse and experimental
@@mbmd_nation kpop have a heavy influenced by hip hop since 90s.
One of the saddest thing while watching this video is that... when you realized that most of the old kpop groups mentioned, have lost member(s) or even worst disbanded. I felt like smiling... but some of the groups arent the same anymore. time does flies very fast. i miss them. the old is cringy, have lots of weird fashoin and low budget mv but hey.... thats what make it special. less fanwars, amazing variety shows... & great bond between the groups. nowadays? massive fanwars & fierce competition between the groups that could cause major rivalry .
i agree to every word. it's really sad.
And that will eventually happen to the new groups today..years from now people will forget about them as more new groups debut and time changes..when you think about it, being an idol is a short term career unless they go into acting and it sucks because they train for a long time
Ikr, I felt like crying when I heard Mblaq. Now I can't listen to their songs without crying :(
representation of our society tbh
THE OLD KPOP WILL BE THE BEST FOREVER. Who remember Star King, Idol Army, Oh my school, Idol maknae rebellion, Star Golden Bell? 2008-2010 was the best era in the kpop, now is just a so plastic a comercial genre with that matter is to be cute and swag, old kpop FIGHTING!!
I agree sooo much! I miss old Kara and wondergirls
I prefer the new kpop😌🙂
oh gosh i watched all the shows that you mentioned and afsghdkdkjf it was so amazing back then. +i wanna add Invincible Youth,
+Love me well that's your opinion and I respect it but OLD Kpop will never be forgotten. Idols out there back then was so carefree and their much happy. Now, more idols got disband or leave the group
me
I think what has a lot of veteran kpop fans nostalgic is the gradual change we've seen. I mean we've seen groups debut, groups break up, song styles change. Newer kpop fans only know what's become more mainstream and what's current. Music is always changing and sometimes it's hard to let go and keep up with it.
Lol, no. Maybe many newer fans but aren't all. I'm a new fan and often i try learn more about K-Pop, don't generalize, please.
Well there's a portion of new kpop fans that aren't like you. I wasn't generalizing at all...lol
I'm a new fan (relatively) and I hardly even know who EXO is.. I prefer the less popular groups, less drama.
Mei Tachibana You have a friend here, just i know too much about EXO because Instagram, if you one and follow pure K-Pop accounts everyday you will see something about EXO and BTS. Personally, i'm not EXO-L but i learned to like Suho and Chanyeol and i think i'm loving Bangtan already xd. Anyway, various of my favs are very little known for many newer fans xd.
DokuraChannelBK Bangtan are a really great band! the reason why they started is different from the other groups and they only follow status quo because if they didn't they wouldn't be liked as much and then in result paid less.
too bad the new kpop fans won't experience the golden era of kpop like old kpop fans experienced
I'm not army I'm a VIP/Shawol yeah it's pretty sad as i am a new Kpop fan and mostly I don't rlly know old Kpop groups cause I haven't found out about them plus, school....
I'm not army I'm a VIP/Shawol actually i experienced when 2ne1 debuted i became a hardcore fan of 2ne1 it just sad they disband :((
Vote BTS In SOOMPIE AWARDS same i known them since 2009 including shinee Bigbang suju mblaq ukiss ft island snsd 4minute beast and some of these groups already disbanded i wish people experience the golden years of kpop
I'm not army I'm a VIP/Shawol i miss those dayss ://
I'm not army I'm a VIP/Shawol SAME omg listening to these songs right now gives me nostalgic feels :')
As soon as I heard Lucifer I was screaming 'old kpop' Cause fucking SHINee man
I feel u shinee be killing with their songs xD
Dominique van der Ven agree
Dominique van der Ven SHINee is amazing for me they are ze Kings
SHINee 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
#shawolforever
2nd generation kpop is the best!!!
4minute 2ne1 beast 2pm Infinite BEG Girls generation Big Bang Wonder girls Afterschool Sistar Miss a MBLAQ Super Junior IU Ukiss ZEA SECRET and more!!
I loved how they would sing each others songs, dance and go on variety shows together!
You rarely see it with the 3rd generation except of ViXX and BTOB
+Happy Nappy How about all the collaboration stages? Wonderbang, 9PM etc
+Filosophy wonderbang was bae!!
SS501
I grew up with kpop like I started being a fan since 2009 and I have seen alot of idols grow. it's sad cuz ppl forget some of the legends. some groups have graduated. some become popular to not so popular and it's sad. some stayed in the same level of course but I just hope they will bring back the variety shows where everyone gathered around to have fun and dance. but now it's all about being sexy and winning.
agree
yeah I got into kpop in 2008 :"D
I've been a fan since 2009 too :-)
me too
same here.,I discovered kpop late 2008 and loved it at 2009.,I feel you.,everything's "too serious" now.,staying away from the light days.,I miss that era.,,
I've been listening to K-pop for almost 17 years now, since the debut of Fin.k.l (fyi, the legendary group where Lee Hyori was the leader)
and i dare to say, the old kpop you're referring to is not that old, they're pretty new.
i'll say the real old kpop is from the debut of seo taiji and boys to the disbandment of h.o.t in 2001 and one year later of s.e.s. That was the end of the first group wave, and the raise of ballad songs at the same time. Then in 2005 came the second wave of new groups, i.e. csjh, SNSD and Suju. (TVXQ as a 5 men group, the kings of the period, was formed in 2003 though), till a bigger and more profound third wave from 2008-09 (2pm, shinee, 2ne1, 4minute, t-ara, f(x), after school all debuted these two years), until now.
The first wave was when kpop got its popularity in Asia (except japan perhaps, for its reluctance to accepting new and foreign stuff). The third wave gains the highest international attention, so if youre new to the kpop scene, you probably find the first two three years of the third wave already "old".
T Koo that's amazing :ooo
I love h.o.t. it's sad that they broke up
Does nobody remember turbo??😂😂👌🏼
T Koo also, shinhwa
KIM JUNG KOOOK😂😂😂😂
I strongly like the Old Kpop DBSK + Super Junior These 2 legends will never die
yes!!! a new family!!! hi I elf!!!!
Haha Hi
so true suju was sad when members left such a big family
Yaaaaaass😍❤️
OMG 😱 Super junior..
Old kpop is probably the best! Really do love SHINee and Super Junior ❤
Baekkie Stan yass i miss the old kpop
I find that recent kpop is actually more diverse than old kpop. There is more genres than the cute, sexy, badass concepts.
More diverse? You gotta be joking.
weathervane101 more diverse? LOL
I thought a lot of it sounded the same, but newer kpop isn't much different. There's lots of generic songs and concepts being used all the time righ now too.
I think you're just new to KPop, if we are talking about old KPop, we meant legends that started the KPop wave from the 90's, and it was more diverse back then coz most idols back then had their own balloon colors representing every group's fans, just saying.. and vocals from the past were much powerful and dance moves back then were also tiring, not to mention they didn't need to wear heavy makeup just to look nice in camera.
Shenron Elder Dragon
colors still existed until like 2008 i think or 2007
I ALMOST CRIED WHEN SS501 CAME ON
Mei Tachibana me too!! I became a fan of kpop too late to experience them when they were together :( and then that big thing happened with Kim Hyun Joong. UGH haha but I'm a huge fan of Vixx and Big Bang and EXO and several others. but I've only been listening for about a year now.
Mei Tachibana That was me when DBSK came on :(
Mei Tachibana ikr :{ even in 2015, I'm still listen to their song. will always miss my bias T_T
They are the reason I've become a kpop fan!
they aren't disbanded guys!! Just on hiatus!
Tbh, imo, if you weren't living the "old kpop" era yourself, you won't get the same feelings for the old songs like you would for the "new kpop" songs if you're a new kpopper. I feel like you had to be there at the time to get the full feelings from the old ones. I'm so so glad I was already into kpop to experience all the old songs because I have new-kpopper friends who don't understand how amazing the old songs are. Thankfully I was able to experience both the old and new. ^^
Yup..I agree with you...Sometimes i really miss the old one..i start love kpop since 2006 start with rain first and infected to dbsk,suju n big bang n more...But now i getting slow,i'm not obses like 4 years ago..But i still love kpop😄😄😄😄
+Anee Mato I'm Chinese, and I remember back when I was in primary school (lol, I know:), every girl in my class was crazy about TVXQ... I'm kind of sad that the pre-2006 era wasn't even mentioned
even more strong feelings if you've seen them live back then
Same with me .
Haru haru was SUCH A GOOD MV/songggg
IMA CRAZY ARTIST CRAP is*
kpop's golden era: 1990s-2000s 2001-2006 2007-2012 no fanwars all groups are able to collab with fans bashing and attacking
Now: 2013-present fans attacking idols have almost no privacy,scandalous especially 2014 but kpop still has catchy songs hehe
for me i think the best years were 2009 to 2012 and im more into the senior groups(those who debuted it 2000s-2012₩
Not you pretending people weren't poisoning idols....2gen fans starting the black ocean.....tvxq and suju
@@yunjin910 but at least back than idols were vocal about what things of fans they didn't like and which idol or celeb they like or wanna date and all... Now the idols, even when mobbed or attached by fans have to keep smiling and show that everything is fine...
Also with all the toxic fans and intense fanwars, it's hella possible that idols still get poisoned and physically attached and all, it's just they have to hide it and have to SHOW love to their FANS🙃🙃🙃
This is the problem now, idols can't even express themselves...
Of course there were fanwars and fan fights back then, even physical ones, or idols were abused, but the rude and problematic ones got sued too, BY THE IDOLS, unlike now a days, where if idols act against problematic fans, they are called rude and hated(like Yuta, Doyoung and many more, even Chanyeol was hated for suing fans who LITERALLY tried ruining his image and career, TXT were hit by their own manager besides being mobbed by fans, but still!! it's the idols who were hated!!!)
Who knows what our favs go through in their daily lives?!?! We just see what they want to show us!! They are for sure hiding many dark things from us and know what?? This is why 2ns gen was comparitively better!!
I'm kinda glad that SHINee hasn't changed much in their music along with EXO, even though some members left EXO those two groups stayed true to their own style of music as far as I can tell
Yesss❤️ being exol and shawol
Am i the only one who still love Big Bang- Haru Haru? (•_•)
No u aren't
My favourite song❤️
nope
One of my favourites!
I love this song❤
BUT THE OLD SONGS ARE STILL SO DAMN GOOD
'Old' K-Pop is basically 'the heart' of Korean wave, but 'new' K-Pop is my generation... so i cannot choose, anyway i know both generations have fantastic and unforgettable songs :3.
Btw, i would like one of these videos but with old school(1992 - 2004) kpop songs, that's would be amazing :D :3.
I've made a video of old Kpop songs 1990 to 2010 ^^ th-cam.com/video/EYJa5WT2GDo/w-d-xo.html
KpopVideos tysm for tell me, i'll watch it c:.
+DokuraChannelBK Beautifully wrapped up :) I agree.
Jee Tysm
i think kpop are all the same generation. as long as you listen to kpop, you have a chance to listen to all the songs. if there is really "old kpop", then it would be those 1999-2007 songs SES or H.O.T.
It's funny how I know all of the old kpop songs, and know just a very few of the new kpop songs.
Hearing these songs brings back so many memories.
I love how SHINee started in 2008 and it's in the gold era and still release amazing songs (Lucifer is my swag)
2013 to me was a great year. Last year with EXO OT12 💕 I still miss 2007 , where 9 girls debuted and stayed for 7 years till this year.
I miss the past suju, snsd and exo, but i still look forward to their future comeback, exo did a great job for their latest comeback but... *sigh* my bias Tao....hope everything is ok 😪
Tao didn't leave yet don't spread false info
Shut up idiot I wasn't correcting you
sophia noelle I heard he did
Well there was no official statement
2009 was the year I got into kpop... after 2 years entered college....after 2 years.. got back to kpop again... once you're in, you can never get out XD
and why is it that i know most of the songs here? lol
Holy shit I relate to this so much
+aNiMeAddiCtZ26 sameeeee!
+aNiMeAddiCtZ26 I know most of the groups, but not the songs xD
yea.. sad life.. hahahaha most groups i know is not that active now.. huhu
old kpop influenced by pop ,dance music and trance
new kpop influenced by hip hop ,rnb , jazz
actually my first group that I know is super junior. they really spread the kpop fever everywhere. I LOVE THEM forever
My first group was BigBang or SHINee
+Me Okay same here! SJ and B.A.P for me :p
same ♥
Yes 💙
Having been around K-pop for almost 10 years now, its hard to say which i prefer, because the "old" K-pop is what i grew up with and what got me into K-pop, so there is a level of nistalgia listening to it and love that cannot be replaced, while the new songs and rookie groups debuting i am getting to follow from the beginning, so i have attatchments to them as well, and they are all talented. The music is definitely changing with the times, but it will always have that K-pop spirit that we know and love.
I would say anything 2008 and before would be "old kpop". But if you really want old kpop, it's 1994 - 2000.
That's true.
yep so all of that is new kpop😊😊😊😊😊
EXO BTOB pretty much :/
kjcpoper I really agree with you!! I mean Shinhwa is the old kpop, debut 1998 but Shinhwa is not even in this video. T^T
Ume Takajima i agree like where is g.o.f, s.e.s and fin.k.l and all others real veterans of kpop.. theyr the first generation of kpop groups and compared to them those groups whos listed as old kpop are pretty new groups
Old kpop groups/mvs/songs never get old cuz they're unique and gold.
Shinhwa, H.OT, G.O.D, DBSK aka TVXQ, Fly to the sky, Fin KL, S.E.S or BoA is the Old Kpop generation, 2008 till now is new kpop i think 😊
There are about 3 generations if you think about it. The 90's to 2006, then 2006/7 -2011, 2012-present
i like the old k-pop's songs more than the new songs but the videos of the new songs. are better than the old ones
agree
of course
yes.,I agree
pretty much what i was thinking! but you have to credit some of the newer songs....but i loved MOST of the old songs!
Some of the new Songs were pretty good but the ones were better
2014 for me is starting to feel like old Kpop all over again tbh, so many good groups that debuted that year. Mamamoo, Red Velvet, Lovelyz, Winner, GOT7, G-Friend (technically, they're 2015 but meh). These groups give me the 2009 modernized vibes.
Bts, winner and bap are really good groups
to me got7 is great
I don't know much about K-pop but that I noticed.
I agree! Winner! 👍👍
Alex97s Totally!! Red Velvet is amazing :)
SHINEE LUCIFER WILL ALWAYS BE ONE OF MY FAV OMG THIS IS MY JAM
why do people hate sexy concepts so much?? nothing is wrong with them. you guys are acting like there was never any sexy concepts in 2009 or something. why not just appreciate kpop while you still have it? not all groups are "trying to be sexy to get attention" btw. you seriously can't just suddenly dislike "new kpop" because of that. -.-
I agree with this so much. And they're acting like its only kpop that's gotten sexier, but really it's like that with most things in this day and age regardless of country; music, movies, sometimes even ads. These people are probably in their early 20's but they're acting like freaking 80 year olds smh.
Because well, in my opinion. . The sexy concept was less sexy than now
Now I feel like. . They're just like. . . Hollywood? And I actually hate Hollywood. So when I see them trying to be a bit like them. . Idk I don't like it
Unlike before, they had their own style and concepts
Idk really, that's just my opinion
They aren't writing their songs
I am Korean and I think 2008 was the best year of Kpop. TVXQ, Wonder Girls, Girls Generation etc Their sings were the best.
Agree 👍👍👍👍
It was the year when soooo many iconic Kpop songs came out, also the many duos and groups debuted that year, and not to mention soooo many good collabs and performances that we saw😍😍
I just miss those dayssss
For me I kinda dislike new kpop bc so many kpop groups are trying to hard to be sexy. Spreading their legs, shaking their butts, thrusting, etc. is unnecessary. It's supposed to be about their singing!! And also some of my biases left/got kicked out.
True kpop Girls = bitches
+SonGoku SSJGOD 2NE1 and The Ark are way different from that tbh
I don't think so
Pretty sure you're talking about Sica :(
yeay less of love song old is the best
From 2021's perspective even the new kpop in this video is old kpop. And all these songs and groups have that feeling of nostalgia that is kind of hard to explain.
I don't know why some people say that "just because they're new fans doesn't mean they don't know old songs" no one said that clearly here's TH-cam for every single old song for them to travel through. What most of us old kpoppers are saying is that you're not going to have that same feel watching old songs now because you didn't grow up listening to kpop like that. I've been a kpop fan for about 8 years now and I first discovered SHINee and ever since then I've been a shawol since then I started to listen to other groups such as suju, snsd, 2ne1, f(x), tara, mblaq, infinite etc, honestly it was the best era in my opinion it was basically the second generation of kpop and they made it big internationally and spread that definition of hallyu across the board but like we said new kpop fans would not really feel how we felt when we used to watch this stuff when it was brand new. Yes a new kpop fan can know as many old songs as we old kpoppers do but they aren't getting that nostalgic feeling we get when watching it now and remembering watching it back when it was new.
pie itsalana I totally agree! I'm an old kpoper, old VIP! and i found the old kpop songs especially the B's song Haru Haru is from the golden era ! The new kpop fan won't get it or feel as we felt back then when the favourite band do a comeback or appear in a show! all i can say is OLD BUT GOLD! the old kpop is much better then the new
Umayma yea like people say "everything was weird back then" well first of all everything was old back then and during that time THAT WAS THE FASHION AND TRENDS so no one can even speak on that. And old kpop is definitely better than new and I think that's because of the amount of older groups I know
Honestly, I started being a Kpop fan in about March last year. My first song that I took interest in was Lucifer. It's not like new Kpop fans today don't listen to the Kpop released back in 2008 ~ 2012. Although I'm no expert, I can just see the evolution of music in all parts of the world. Some genres are getting worse, some are getting better. The thing is, I don't look at dates in Kpop videos. I just Watch. You know what I'm saying? I enjoy it and I get the good vibe off of it new or not. Sure, things are different but I feel like the original aspects of Kpop still lives on in songs today. It just happens, things just change. Technology, the "trends," everything... The things I get from new Kpop videos gives me the same feelings as watching old Kpop videos. I don't know if this is just me but even if things do change, I feel the same because there are artists out there who put out the most wonderful songs no matter when it was released.
EXO - Locket Lucifer was what got me into kpop too ! and I had discovered kpop around spring last year too! ^-^
Name I found out about Lucifer because of TheFineBros ^.^ Their videos sometimes introduce a whole new world to people, it's nice. I got addicted to SHINee and from SHINee, it spread to EXO, F(X), SNSD, BTS, Vixx, Super Junior and so on. I can never stop watching Kpop, it's crazy XDD
EXO - Locket lol. I went from 60's and 70's (beatles, queen) music to kpop . I had heard about the fact that once you get into kpop, there's no escaping. so I looked on finebros too to see what kpop was like. ... they were right .>.
The addiction is too much tbh I think I partially became mentally insane because of Kpop. In a good way of course XDDD
I'm totally the same, but the first song I took interest in was Hello. xD And I very much agree with you.
2009 was the best year for girl group debuts: After School, 4minute, f(x), 2NE1, T-ARA, and Secret all had successful debuts. Since then most debuts have been ignored until this year 2015. A new generation of girl groups are becoming popular from debut: Lovelyz, G-Friend, Oh My Girl, Sonamoo, CLC are having successful debut as well. I hope 2015 continues to be a great year for debuts
Sonamoo's debut was not successful, they got recognised internationally but in Korea their sales were really low compared to Red Velvet and Lovelyz etc.
Star Yeon Their debut was anticipated because they were from TS, which holds Secret and B.A.P(former). So they're a rookie group with potential. of course Red Velvet and Lovelyz started off well being sistergroups of big boy groups so they already had a big fanbase(mostly fangirls) to start with
Alex Kwong Well like I said, it was mainly international Kpop fans that anticipated it. But they do hold potential, I enjoyed their debut.
OLD Kpop much better
Really😢
Uh in my opinion no, sorry
Yessss
2009 was such a good year
for me 2009 was the worst year, Tvxq broke up that God damn year....
Anonymousgirl150 I though tvxq is still together
Kpop Lover what ?? Tvxq split was one of the most scandalous event in kpop. Three members did a lawsuit against SM then left and formed a new group caller JYJ while two members stayed and are still in TVXQ. TVXQ currently are a duo of Yunho and Changmin.
Anonymousgirl150 ok another question JYJ disband?
Kpop Lover no JYJ didn't disband but they haven't been doing group activities for a long time. They are mostly doing solo stuff.
ironic that the old 2NE1 song you used was "Go Away" and the new one was "Come Back Home", hahaha the girls are indecisive xD
Lol good point
This is just what I notice:
Old kpop: Though it is influenced by J-pop and has western elements, when you see the MVs and hear the songs, you can identify it as Kpop. Heck, even my non kpop friends identified the old kpop as kpop.
New kpop: The MVs and the songs look and sound like American...but sang in korean.
This is just my opinion though.
Agreed , and old kpop have so much fun like friend even they are not in the same group.
That's true
Sandra Hansson I agree!! It's like more and more Western influence as the years progress
you're right...i hate it that america influences everything😳
Old Kpop boy groups for me is SHINee TVXQ and BigBang and new Kpop for me is BTS GOT7 and EXO. Girls it's - 4Minute SNSD for old and new EXID F(X) and Red Velvet
Fx debuted only one year after shinee though??
F(x) is old group dude
Yup
fx debut 2009
fx include to old grup even legend with snsd and 2ne1. fx the third kpop girl group who reach 100M viewers on TH-cam
Legendary DB5K :) they are absolutely the Number 1 in Kpop History, they are so much far from the other (except BigBang, Suju, Beast - this is just vvhat I think). the nevv Kpop is pretty good but compare to Legendary is still a long vvay to go :) but cheer for all of Kpop band
I know! I am still pissed that SM was so money hungry that they wont allow the members to promote the beauty brand and not give the three members a raise. If I was CEO, I would give them a much better contract and offer! They were popular in Japan for god sake! It's vey hard to kpop groups to make it big in Japan. Not only that, but whole Asia, SE Asia loved them. They were money making gods for SM. All 5 were very strong, they can sing and dance, at the same time, live! so well trained. SM just let them go.... Stupid decision. They were the end of the an era for kpop, and honestly SM havent been able to reproduce their success.
100% I AGREE WITH YOU!! :) ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH!!
nguyen phamkhoi y
Seriously? When I read "old" I thought it was going to be Sechkies, Shinwa, H.O.T, se7en, fly to the sky, etc. Am I just that old?
thisCLUMSYgirl it's not because you're not "old", it's just that most KPop fans these days won't tend to check them out or they be like ooh yes they are legends yet they know nothing about these guys from the 90's, I got to Kpop in 2004 but I honestly love the 1st generation KPop more than ever. It's also obvious that most KPop fans these days can't even mention older groups besides TVXQ, Suju and etc.
2009 was a glorious year ..
The only good things about new Kpop are BTS and B.A.P
Ummm...2009 KPOP sucked. Minus the 2NE1 album and Some of Shinees songs. They all sound Generic and Mainstream, There was no Variation.
+Waiora Ranginui shut up
yeah i totally agree with you + GOT7.
tusekki Nobody was talking to you...Talk to yourself.
Got7?
I'm so thankful to be a part of the older generation. (not that the new generation was bad) but back then we had boy and girl band collaborations (super-generation) and awesome variety/talk shows.
same
I actually feel like newer songs are more diverse in style as kpop becomes more global and producers experiment with different genres. I love old kpop classics but new kpop excites me because it just seems like there's a wider variety of sounds now. Eg. we're getting mixtures of trap, r&b, reggae, deep house, retro throwbacks, orchestral, brass sounds, etc. Personally feel like 2015 was the year when k-pop really transitioned into something fresh.
No, 2015 was the year when kpop get USA sound, that I hate
Bam Z Official yeah but they do things way better than the US:)
+Cryingtae SS501, MBLAQ OR ZE:A AMERICAN INFLUENCE? I DON'T THINK SO
Bam Z Official she's talking about the influence American music had on Korea. It was very influential if you look at bigbangs la la la . And some of kpop copied the same sound as some American songs so yes it was hun
Yeah but that's what makes it less quality because u can no longer produce pure house, pure hip-hop, pure genre that one single in one song,
Putting BTOB's WOW under 'old kpop' is a no-no.
old kpop when exo was 12
old kpop is the best
+Meena Aljuboory no old kpop is when exo didn't debute , exo are the 3rd generation
Um no that was in 2012 get your facts right
***** exo are the 3rd generation . why is this so hard to admit //sigh , exo , red velvet for sm , btob clc for cube , even Apink are the 3rd generation , and they debuted earilier than exo . the 2nd generation are : TVXQ , SUJU , SS501 , SNSD , SHINee , ft island , KARA , T-ara , MBLAQ , U-kiss , BEAST , and a lot of other groups
***** omg I'm so sorry I replied to the wrong person ; ; just exo-ls are everywhere and they just keep saying that they're 2nd generation as if they are and it's frustrating for an old kpop fan like me , and sorry neh ~
DBSK and SS501 brought me into Kpop and I'm still stuck in 2008-2012...
Those hit groups in the past are forgotten by people(never for "old" fans but most of the fans are "new", these days). I'm amazed when some fans calling themselves "hardcore Kpop fans" literally don't know DBSK used to have 5 people, forever legends groups like SS501/Shinhwa, and even active groups like Infinite and BEG!!
Both because no matter what time all generations worked hard and produced amazing songs 😁
i agree
JDLS X ohmygod you like bts and phan hello
+suhga - oh my gawd *insert jungkook's voice* hi
Someday this new kpop will old kpop.
I like both of them, :))
Ikr :3. I like both too :3.
It's weird because I never really thought of any of the "old" ones as that old
Helen Hu ikr, i feel old K-Pop is really 90s and 2000-2005 songs and not 2009 - 2011 songs xd.
DokuraChannelBK It should have the titel 2nd generation vs 3rd generation..and THEN..i think groups of 2011 aren't old enough for 2nd generation.. xD Or Groups till 2010 vs 2011~ something like this..for me till 2010 is different to the Groups later 2010.. xD
Steffi Boice ikr!
Honestly I consider "old kpop" groups like HOT,SES,Shinhwa,god etc but I think the 2nd generation of kpop with groups like BIGBANG,2ne1,Wonder Girls,2PM,Suju,SNSD,DBSK,Shiner etc. are the best generation of kpop and all the new groups should learn from them cause they made kpop what it is
I personnally prefer new kpop x) I like some old songs for bigbang SNSD Super Junior
Baek hyunee that’s trash I don’t think new is good
I'm so glad I've got to experience the "old" kpop. ❤
"Old kpop " 2008 till 2010? Thats not right lol to me old kpop is the 1990s.... but we all started at different years so its ok i guess lol (btw shinee rules ☆☆☆☆☆)
I think this person did the second generation Kpop vs third generation probably because second generation artists are just more well known
Andrew Tuan yeah i guess so
Andrew Tuan the reason why they're well known is because most groups from the 90s broke up already since the KPop scene was much harder in the 90s, and stricter since doing solo activities will make you look like a betrayer so it's like.. they can't pursue their solo careers until they broke up :(
nekochii00 Old kpop for me started in the 80's, lol. For my parents, it was the 60's and 70's. But I get it, the 90's was a significant decade with the pivotal, group ,서태지와 아이들 (Seotaeji boys) debuted.
So where do artist like freestyle belong too? Ancient kpop?
Old Kpop.. when Exo didn't exist
Yeah.. Their fandom is making me move away from kpop day-by-day. They have bought so many crazy people into the kpop scene..
Star Yeon it's not the bands fault for having crazy fans ,they didn't ask for that either. People just got attracted to them.
AJisFalling When did I say it was their fault? I'm just stating a fact. Since they have debuted the crazy fans in kpop multiplied by 838392.
Star Yeon when you said "they brought all the crazy fans..." ,it seemed like you were implying that exo did it purposely. It's true there's been A LOT of crazy fans ,but exo didn't mean to lure them to kpop.
AJisFalling Like I said before, I know that they didn't directly bring in crazy fans. I'm stating a fact, they have a lot of crazy fans and many of them are in kpop because of them. Can you stop making me repeat myself now?
I think old kpop is better than new.
Same
of course old kpop its legendary
Tbh the only that changed is probably the cameras...
(And the clothing)
(And some groups are trying too much to be American...)
That was my thought pretty much, but with the addition of everyone trying to out sexy eachother lol
So true
Honestly I don't think much has changed. The Kpop crazy styles, catchy music, etc. is still there. The videos are just more HD and have better production overall. Idols aren't seen doing as much casual, fun work but they do get to work hard and more and more groups are beginning to write their own songs and therefore are earning a new, more creative form of freedom.
The only BIG change I see are the people watching kpop. It's gotten so much international attention that fan bases are changing drastically. The down side is there are more haters, gossip, and scandals. I just wish people would come into this lovely kpop world with respect for the music bringing only good intentions. This is what I miss about the "old" kpop, the supportive fans.
lol if you don't see the difference, you must be a newer fan.
The only difference in music I see is between 2008-2014 and 2015-2020
u think same vibe??? u most be a new kpop fan
Whether it's new or old kpop,it's still kpop..just appreciate the music..
the style changed
Hyukjae is precious because the years change and it went on
No it's not.
tell that to new fans who ruin the enjoyment.
some people are just to hang up with their nostalgia that's why they hate to see change
old k-pop music used to be cute and lovely,but not anymore...now it's a pure illuminaty music
2008, 2009.. you call that old? I wouldn't call that the old kpop. "old" kpop is more like songs from hot, god, nrg, sechskies, seo taiji, and all. so like, songs from 1990-2000. I wouldn't even call that old at all. 2009 is only 6 years ago, that's not that old.
2012 old and 2013 new?
😂😂😂Lol yeah
Ikr, I'm thinking the same thing too
+Moshi Haireel_ i swear that is the most righteous comment ive heard
i agree so much *****
I like the new kpop better honestly. I've never really liked cute aegyo songs like "Gee" and "Marshmellow" which were most girl group songs back then. That and a lot of MVs back then seem very outdated.
Also, a feel that a lot of groups back then were searching for an image and concept that best fit them. For instance, bigbang have developed a more hardcore, cool image since "Haru Haru".
That being said, I do still appreciate the classics like "Abracadabra" and "Sorry Sorry".
I agree with you 100% I don't like the cute songs either so new Kpop is better for me
& the electronic weird pop is out & groups can express themselves better now like Bts' new albums have all this r&b stuff on them & they can attract outsiders super easily.
thats strange bc a lotof songs try to be cute
okay so you like TWCIE or Gfreind aegyo now? and speaking of searching for a concept, new kpop ruined the idea of concept
I started listening to Kpop in 2013 and as much as I love the new Kpop the stuff from before 2013 just takes the cake. The music released back then was the best stuff the industry has seen for most groups.
i got into kpop in 2011, and 2012 was really the height of my fandom peak. one thing i've noticed is the over saturation in the industry now - it's always been there, but it's a lot more noticeable now than it used to be.
also, the fandom is a lot more divided than it used to be. like...would 4th generation fans be able to have a laugh about waffurs or something if they weren't extreme mblaq stans? bad example, but.
Mir engrish was so adorable
Oh i miss Old Kpop soo much T__T i miss BoA T_T TVXQ T.T,SS501,Big Bang~~!!CN Blue with songs like im a Loner, old Shinee,even Suju for me is not the same..there were some songs that u just cant forget o.o or get bored.Like Rainism,Mirotic,bonamana or sorry sorry ,abracadabra,gee and so on :D though there are some new songs that i rlly rlly like too !old school is old school~)i think what is bad in new kpop is that a lot of songs sound alike or are too...loud (?)...or something ull like,listen 3 times and get bored x)
The old girl group wear an appropriate skirt while the new one wear the inappropriate
Ikr most of the kpop female idol is all wearing freaking short miniskirts / super short shorts .
except 2NE1 😏
not really they also wear shorts that are very short sometimes too
nah , i mean on the video . it shows that 2NE1 song GO AWAY and COME BACK HOME . these two mv , show that they covered not exposed like other mv on this vid
Rio x it's when in seoul..but when you go to city like busan,you will find girl wearing long skirt..
I'm a simple person. I see SHINee I click ≧∇≦
Haruhi Mây omg same
Haruhi Mây No one cares
Chasidy Cat Really?~ °w°
I like the both ... 'cuz i like all the groups and i really Luv the new rookies groups like bts or exo and I'm a big fan of the "old kpop" like Suju shine or infinite
Same here.. !
Oh and nice picture :) I really like BTS.
thank u ;DDD I love BTS
Yes, I agree :DD I luv all the kpop groups "old" o rookies....both are pretty good
lucifer doesnt even seem old omfg
Altough new Kpop is fun and good, I miss the old Kpop so much. Kpop nowadays likes to show something bolder, girls getting sexier, boys getting scarier.. I started to watch Kpop in 2009, I was captured by Super Junior, SS501 (now SS301), SNSD, Wonder Girls, 2PM, and more. That's why I really miss those times. Many things change :(
all us BIGBANG and BTS fans sang
Haru Haru
Good Boy
Danger
and
Up and Down by EXID
😂👌
lmao fam BTS ang GOT7 are not old kpop, get ur facts right :D:D:D:D:D
Literally_in_every_ possible_fandom gosh I love danger
New Kpop will always be the better music. Half of y'all are blinded by nostalgia lmfao. New Kpop is more diverse, has muuuuch better production and variety, and the god awful autotune is gone. I also found old Kpop a little more lifeless (there are exceptions ofc)
There ARE amazing old Kpop songs obviously, but overall, Kpop is better now and will continue to improve just as music does.
Didn't BEAST's Bad Girl come out in 2010?
No, It came out 2009 ^^
+KpopVideos But when I looked at the upload date for Bad Girl it said 2010. I might be wrong though. I haven't been a B2uty for that long so...
Maggie Tran Okay, But the Album the song was on was released in 2009 ^^
+KpopVideos Oh I see.
Maggie Tran Is their debut song... this song was released in October of 2009... and later they had another promotion with Mystery of the same album-B2ST is the Best since December-January of 2010 :)
EXO, GOT7, SHINee, BTS, some personal favorites
lucifer us honestly like my favorite dance idek why it just so catchy and cool looking
BE'GONCE 101 yass
I'M CRYING BC 2NE1 T.T my heart can't take it
If 2008+ is old then 1998 was B.C smh
kpop trend changed so fast.. that why 2008 is considered old enough
In kpop , maybe it's already B.C during 1998 hahah
So Shinwa is already a BC??
xD
this is the golden era of kpop,i've been a kpop fan since 2015, but I do love this era i'd never listen to the new one except to yg artist,but I keep coming to the old one's . #fighting 2nd generations
#Golden #era #is #LOVE!
I definitely think their was a unique element to Kpop in the past that just made it distinct to other forms of music. It is the thing that got me into Kpop in the first place. There was more melody, personality, charisma and catchiness. Just listen to BoA's old music and tell me that stuff doesn't want to make you dance. However, I do acknowledge the fact that newer Kpop also has some hidden gems and does sound like it could be older Kpop music (hint hint: G-friend).
I came into the KPOP scene for the 1st time ever early last year, and I've definitely grown with the rookies of 2013 & 2014 more than older groups
I have seen most of those older songs
and it's hard to decide old or new, because I really love both; some older songs are better while some newer songs beat the older songs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i'm more at comfort with the newer kpop scene, so I like that a bit better by a little
like I really like Haru Haru and a lot of SHINee's & TVXQ's (as well as their new ones) earlier songs
but I would consider early 2000's - 2010 old kpop & 2011-2014 new;
I honestly don't find 2012 to be old kpop, it only happened 2yrs ago... that's not that old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have watched a lot of old kpop MV's the thing that I don't miss it the crappy TH-cam quality or the smaller screens; what I do miss is the sound of that older music, after all it's the foundation of what kpop music is today.
but seriously I love both old and new XD
this is also coming from a younger person
I feel so old, i don't know half of these groups from the "new kpop" xD
When I click on the video, mentioning "old kpop" I though about the 1st generation like Shinhwa, H.O.T, 1TYM, S.E.S, Fly to the Sky...
Can't believe I saw TVXQ, Super Junior, Big Bang, 2NE1, SS501, Girl's Generation (and many more)....debut and they now belong to the "old generation" lol
It's major throwback when I watched the old kpop videos, omg I'm so old lol
omfg I still remember tell me being my absolute jam... HOW IS THAT ALREADY ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD?