@@pigeonstranglerthe bike club wasn't a criminal gang to start with. Not sure if you've watched the movie, but it traces the history of this bike club from hanging out and riding bikes to eventually becoming a more crime focused gang.
Ah wow. I didn't know that, thank you for the tip haha. Happy Belated Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas, God bless you and remember. Jesus loves and died for you!
@@monkadelic13 yes you do. It how that works. To be made. You have to give an oath to the family that you will kill your own mother for them. Big organizations want you to leave your friends behind. They are useless to them, you’re not. The more people in the party the more people can snitch to the cops. They are now your friends/family.
Yea hence why he even went as far as trying to stab a man in the back. Sealed the deal on the level of character he really is. He literally displayed hell stab you in the back if his egos pushed. Hes a liability even in the criminal world. True MCs wouldnt deal with that just like in the scene. Thats one thing i like about Tom Hardy, most of his roles depict loyalty and all the other aspects of how a man should walk. Under rated actor but he definitely outperforms his roles even if they seem to be the same type. Just like in any business youre good at a specific style. His isnt any different.
@@johnnyreb2241 Seems like he got tired of reading and stopped halfway so didn't notice you were giving your opinion on Tom Hardy as an actor as well. That's what Tiktok does to people's attention span these days.
Loyalty means everything. Honor among thieves, Ride or Die, so on so forth. Trust and respect is more meaningful than anything in the world. That kid was only out for himself. He wasn’t worthy.
The Kid approaches Johnny at the wrong time here when he was mourning Brucie. I never understand why he didn't approach Johnny at the picnic when he first asks for him.
@@keenynthewise um...ok. i must have missed the part where i typed that i didnt care for it bc it wasnt like the godfather and was just an original biker movie.....that or and this may shock you, i have my own opinion and formed it in my own mind for my own reasons and perhaps you shouldnt quit your day job to become a mind reader.
That was an inspired loyalty test ...lol....that kid didn't even see that coming! I'm sure most of the rest of us did! A great lesson....and it would have been funny had his "friends" left him there.....
People are missing the point of this movie, the trailer presented goodfellas meets sons of anarchy, but this is a movie about the bare beginning of becoming goodfellas meets sons of anarchy, how something good that was meant for people who outcasts or not good with regular people could come together and become brothers have a goodtime and ride, a motorcycle club, they were badasses with class they weren't looking for trouble weren't trying to start it but didn't back down, and how it was ruined and turned ugly and hateful by bad people, like funny sonny coming from California showing the proper respect they welcomed and treated him like a brother while he was wearing his own colors, it was ruined because of bad people, that honest brotherhood a fellow rider being taken care of ended. Its a movie about how a club was ruined and turned into a gang. People who ride motorcycles, club members or solo riders i think will love this movie, those who bash it, I think dont ride or are soa wannabes but a true biker will love it and respect this movie
For anybody who doesn’t understand it’s a test if you’re willing to leave your childhood friends behind you’ll leave anybody behind. Clubs started as brotherhood and loyalty that changed around the 70s
nah he just spared him cuz he's still a kid. Middle aged men like johnny wouldnt bother even he's at 20s cuz he has honor and knew he had so much in life to learn than be with something like them. They just get caught off guard that this kid truly is a vile monster inside him in the end
Great semi truthful origin story. Anyone in a club can tell you that it was something In the beginning, once drugs and anger came… That’s what made clubs down spiral
It took me four tries to listen to 1:56 and completely get what Tom Hardy was saying without captions Jeff Bridges in True Grit was easier to understand
talk about foreboding I didn't catch it the first time ...at 153 Johnny was like you want really bad don't you kid...I bet if I offered you to run this whole club you would take in a heartbeat...right...and then down the road months later looked what happened...
I've been around bikers like this all my life, playing in bands in their bars and clubhouses. Hung out in their bars and clubs in Daytona for years. NEVER, EVER SQUARE OFF AGAINST A 1% AFTER FAILING A LOYALTY TEST. THAT BOY IS LUCKY TO BE BREATHING.
Dude, there's what like 5 or 6 guys there, they work their own bikes and they're buddies, they've got their own M/C right there! The Renegades, just own it, that's you. Kids always want to join something else, thinking they're not good enough to be founders of something original, something real, just stick to your guns kid - quit pleading for greener grass, it's green in your hometown.
probably the best way to get acnowledged is to be around and not storm in and annoy seasoned high ranks with your daydreams.. they should have tried out their own stuff showing they are respectable and some time they would at last acknowledge you and your guys exist.from there you start smoothing in
Man I hate when that happens! Getting my hand sliced open by a switchblade! Damn, that just puts a damper on my whole day! Sure glad it doesn't happen more than once every couple of weeks or so.
@joshuajarod1909 They are the same due to an absolute certainty in life. CHANGE. Carlito and Johnny both knew they had aged out of their game. Hungry dogs eat.
It's tough, the movie had potential but fell a little flat when you think about each character and how simple it all was. The ending with the club turning more sinister was almost like a peak point to me that I told myself....this should of been the middle of the movie. But in the end I get it, it's literally the old timers biker movie and how these damn young hooligans are messing up a good thing lol
Just saying, the guy he's playing would not be wrangled by a POS like that, he wouldn't be the first out, and his boys would have jumped on him when he approached. Pulling a knife would be a death sentence.... But what do I know
Not always. De Niro has some great movies where he’s not violent. Meet the parents trilogy, a Bronx tale, killers of the flower moon, dirty grandpa, joker. I do agree with Tom hardy tho but that can be said about a bunch of action and drama actors.
That’s a bad scene from a writing and movie-making perspective. Only Tom Hardy and the Renegades’ leader spoke. Even when he told the kid to leave his friends behind and even when the kid agreed to throw them under, not one of them said a word. There was no protest, no braggadocio, no posturing or false bravado, just passive silence from a motorcycle gang. You know what this tells the audience? It tells them either that the production didn’t want to pay for any additional speaking parts or that the writer didn’t consider that all the other bodies standing around were supposed to be actual humans with thoughts, behaviors and motivations of their own.
A good movie in the fact that it wasn't all "Born to be wild" it was very much a social club for the HS/College rejected. My wives dad exactly during that period had a bike mountain climber club. But as usual everything has to evolve into shate.
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Willing to betray his friends to join the Vandals. Proved to have no loyalty or trust. Also showed he has pure bad blood in him
Foreshadowing, later on he breaks code and kills dude with a gun in a agreed upon knife fight. Never was a man of principal
It's a fukn movie chaps...it's not real...derrrr
@@keenynthewiseWhy would a man of principle be part of a criminal gang?
@@pigeonstranglerthe bike club wasn't a criminal gang to start with. Not sure if you've watched the movie, but it traces the history of this bike club from hanging out and riding bikes to eventually becoming a more crime focused gang.
In real life that is actually "taco" of the outlaws.. was on the fbi most wanted list next to bin laden for domestic terrorism charges
Tom hardy is such a superb actor...every part he plays he absolutely kills it..
Agreed. Just amazing
I concur
iv'e lost count how many times he's been the coolest toughest guy on earth,
Sucks the movie was horrendous and cringe lol. "The Bikeriders" is also one of the most laughable names for a movie I've ever seen lmao
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Ah wow. I didn't know that, thank you for the tip haha. Happy Belated Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas, God bless you and remember. Jesus loves and died for you!
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Never fail a loyalty test.
Especially if you’re trying to join a gang that’s based on loyalty.
you can't get access to a bigger club by leaving your homies behind.. period.. its all or none!
@@monkadelic13 yes you do. It how that works. To be made. You have to give an oath to the family that you will kill your own mother for them. Big organizations want you to leave your friends behind. They are useless to them, you’re not. The more people in the party the more people can snitch to the cops. They are now your friends/family.
It was a trick question.
It was game theory.
“Let’s try to join the gang by ordering their members around when we first meet.” Haha
Thats the attitude of these kids today, entitled an a sense of thinking they can demand what ever they want lol especially from older folks.
and then completely abandoning his so called brothers for another group he plans to call his family.
@@noahbrooksphoto Based on true events.
@@noahbrooksphotocowards existed before movies
@@crempies5610 This is mid 1960's So its probably you're exact generation. But nice try boomer
This kid was literally going to abandon his own friends over a bike rider gang? That’s just sad true friends never abandon you
Yea hence why he even went as far as trying to stab a man in the back. Sealed the deal on the level of character he really is. He literally displayed hell stab you in the back if his egos pushed. Hes a liability even in the criminal world. True MCs wouldnt deal with that just like in the scene.
Thats one thing i like about Tom Hardy, most of his roles depict loyalty and all the other aspects of how a man should walk. Under rated actor but he definitely outperforms his roles even if they seem to be the same type. Just like in any business youre good at a specific style. His isnt any different.
Fk me Captain Obvious and his sidekick just entered the building 😂
@@extremepoker75 how is anything i said obvious? It further explained his point. Was that your attempt at being edgy? Lmao 🤦🏻♂️
@@johnnyreb2241 Seems like he got tired of reading and stopped halfway so didn't notice you were giving your opinion on Tom Hardy as an actor as well. That's what Tiktok does to people's attention span these days.
it's a movie you more-on
"You want us to fight someone we'll kill'em"
He told johnny who he was from jump and still didn't see it coming in the end
I agree with Tom Hardy on this one.... NEVER LEAVE YOUR FRIENDS BEHIND.
And never turn your back on an angry young punk with a knife.
@@JohnnyFukcup True true
@@kentonpryor7091wow! so insightful, did you come up with that by yourself?
@@brain4154also, that wasn’t tom hardy, it was his character. Tom Hardy is a posh model with no actual hands.
@@newthrash1221 Actually he could grab hold of you and forcefully stretch your sphincter prison style if he was so inclined.
Loyalty means everything. Honor among thieves, Ride or Die, so on so forth. Trust and respect is more meaningful than anything in the world. That kid was only out for himself. He wasn’t worthy.
The Kid approaches Johnny at the wrong time here when he was mourning Brucie. I never understand why he didn't approach Johnny at the picnic when he first asks for him.
plot hole...movie was disappointing i was really looking forward to it too.
@@bluv812it was a good movie, it was never supposed to be the godfather or anything just an original biker movie.
@@keenynthewise um...ok. i must have missed the part where i typed that i didnt care for it bc it wasnt like the godfather and was just an original biker movie.....that or and this may shock you, i have my own opinion and formed it in my own mind for my own reasons and perhaps you shouldnt quit your day job to become a mind reader.
@@bluv812 you said it was disappointing 😂 I’m just wondering what you were expecting
@@keenynthewise clearly a movie that wasn't disappointing to me.
That was an inspired loyalty test ...lol....that kid didn't even see that coming! I'm sure most of the rest of us did! A great lesson....and it would have been funny had his "friends" left him there.....
People are missing the point of this movie, the trailer presented goodfellas meets sons of anarchy, but this is a movie about the bare beginning of becoming goodfellas meets sons of anarchy, how something good that was meant for people who outcasts or not good with regular people could come together and become brothers have a goodtime and ride, a motorcycle club, they were badasses with class they weren't looking for trouble weren't trying to start it but didn't back down, and how it was ruined and turned ugly and hateful by bad people, like funny sonny coming from California showing the proper respect they welcomed and treated him like a brother while he was wearing his own colors, it was ruined because of bad people, that honest brotherhood a fellow rider being taken care of ended. Its a movie about how a club was ruined and turned into a gang. People who ride motorcycles, club members or solo riders i think will love this movie, those who bash it, I think dont ride or are soa wannabes but a true biker will love it and respect this movie
Yes indeed. I loved this movie! I think it definitely paved way for more biker gang movies to come out in the future.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Cool story, bro.
Yeah man. I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw it this way. Is always that one bad apple that can ruin the whole tree.
Christ, long sentences buddy.
If you're willing to dump the ones you built up with, you're not ready to join a real brotherhood.
A 'real' brotherhood?
😂😂
Your O.G.friends are your real brotherhood.
@breakfreak3181 the point went soaring over your head, genius...
@BrassBashers
It really didn't.
Read back what you wrote.
All good though, it's just a film.
Peace out.
I love this scene, it's right there with Rocky Balboa's "Life hits hard.." speech as far as providing genuine life lessons.
The best lesson in Rocky comes from Apollo Creed and i think of it often: “There is no tomorrow!”
For anybody who doesn’t understand it’s a test if you’re willing to leave your childhood friends behind you’ll leave anybody behind. Clubs started as brotherhood and loyalty that changed around the 70s
Thanks we never figured 😂😂😂😂🤷♂️
Really? Tell us more, Mr. Science.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
DUDE. GO BACK TO SCHOOL. DO US ALL A FAVOR.
@@aggrocd1985 What are you getting at?
Hardy has got a little Peter Falk going on with the voice and it works.
“Because you lost my carpet cleaning van, and I don’t like you!”
"One more thing sir.. " 😉
Columbo!
I’m not even a biker but this movie was awesome
First thing
You gotta take NO for an answer
I wouldn't be where I am in life right now if I took no for an answer. You've got to stop letting the word, no, stop you in your tracks
What a great actor, he’s had so many different characters with personalities in his movies and he kills it doesn’t get enough credit in my opinion.
Loyalty is the most important thing. That and keeping your word.
Yeah and then he pulled a Benny Blanco
Yea,the kid and benny blanco.two cowards that couldn't stand up as real men.
That was a test. He failed.
Did you figure that out all by your little self? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
He failed on Loyalty, respect and humility. That was boy luckily got out alive.
No one gets out alive.
nah he just spared him cuz he's still a kid. Middle aged men like johnny wouldnt bother even he's at 20s cuz he has honor and knew he had so much in life to learn than be with something like them. They just get caught off guard that this kid truly is a vile monster inside him in the end
Hey, this is fake, it is a movie, not a real thing
Great semi truthful origin story. Anyone in a club can tell you that it was something In the beginning, once drugs and anger came…
That’s what made clubs down spiral
The Kid's friends stuck by him after this too. What the?
Really? Shocked at that.....
@@katherinekerbow8344 Yeah the same guys show up with him later on.
@@StefWriter how great! Can't wait to see the movie......or buy it.....
Kids are kids fight today and smoking cigarettes and drinking Pepsis tomorrow
The secret venom button
I like the insight into that kids' difference in ideology and a bit of foreshadowing in that"if you want us to fight someone, we'll kill em"
Really looking forward to this
"you'd take it in a heartbeat" Remember that line 😉
The Kid Was Willing To Leave His Friends.
Wanted To Fit In So Bad.
This truly the essence of the outlaw biker world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro didnt pass the most obvious test😂
That so called 20 year old guy is an insult to the vandals and forever will be an insult for killing Johnny!
This is probably my favourite scene in the film.
Rode with these boys in the Sissy Bedwetters, used to air our mattresses out the front of Dunkin' Donuts. Wild boys.
It took me four tries to listen to 1:56 and completely get what Tom Hardy was saying without captions
Jeff Bridges in True Grit was easier to understand
"If you wanted this whole club you'd take it in a heartbeat"
Took me one try dude
@@scottwolff6946 Oh wow. Want a medal or something?
At least Tom Hardy can still doing some good movies outside Venom
Saw that test coming when he said just you. Knew boy had no integrity.
Watched it last week and actually enjoyed it 👻
TOM HARDY THE BEST! STILL WAITING FOR HIM TO GET HIS REWARD OPENLY!
I imagine this scene was pretty realistic. Sadly kids are so desperate to get into gangs that they abandon their friends.
Anybody know the name of the song playing in the opening of the scene?
talk about foreboding I didn't catch it the first time ...at 153 Johnny was like you want really bad don't you kid...I bet if I offered you to run this whole club you would take in a heartbeat...right...and then down the road months later looked what happened...
Yea but he was really saying how he is the exact opposite of Benny!
I love Tom Hardy!!!
He taught him not with knives. 😅
Life lesson right there.
Number one lesson yall didn't notice even after he was about to leave them they still helped him back up 🗣two way scene
I've been around bikers like this all my life, playing in bands in their bars and clubhouses. Hung out in their bars and clubs in Daytona for years.
NEVER, EVER SQUARE OFF AGAINST A 1% AFTER FAILING A LOYALTY TEST. THAT BOY IS LUCKY TO BE BREATHING.
Dude, there's what like 5 or 6 guys there, they work their own bikes and they're buddies, they've got their own M/C right there! The Renegades, just own it, that's you. Kids always want to join something else, thinking they're not good enough to be founders of something original, something real, just stick to your guns kid - quit pleading for greener grass, it's green in your hometown.
probably the best way to get acnowledged is to be around and not storm in and annoy seasoned high ranks with your daydreams..
they should have tried out their own stuff showing they are respectable and some time they would at last acknowledge you and your guys exist.from there you start smoothing in
Thank you. Seeing this scene saved me the trouble of ever losing two hours and actually watching this movie. Seems very bad.
Dude is basically Mickey before he met and trained Rocky 😂😂 🥊
Great Actor * Looks a Great Film too.
I don't know why but tomorrow Hardy's eyebrows when he looks at them cracks me up
Imagine failing a loyalty test for a gang or biker club where it literally is founded on brotherhood lol
Maybe they weren’t that close of friends Tom? Maybe they were acquaintances
how much he looks like kevin costner...😍
Sons of Anarchy vibes 😍🇬🇧🤣
You left your friends? Nah.
Tom Hardy is a chameleon !
The guy is just amazing as an actor.
One of the greatest actors of our time. Kid kept making wrong moves every step of the way.
Man I hate when that happens! Getting my hand sliced open by a switchblade! Damn, that just puts a damper on my whole day! Sure glad it doesn't happen more than once every couple of weeks or so.
You guys got this kid all wrong. He's willing to do ANYTHING. Just like Benny Blanco, he gets his due diligence in the end...
This kid was worse than Benny Blanco.
@joshuajarod1909 They are the same due to an absolute certainty in life. CHANGE. Carlito and Johnny both knew they had aged out of their game. Hungry dogs eat.
Movie based on the Outlaws MC. I think the kid was portrayed as a young Taco Bowman, even though this is more a story and Tacos history is different.
Tom Hardy fked around... And by the end of the movie... Found out 😂
For a part of this i think Tom Hardy morphed into Shane MacGowan
Fine to what now obeying him but: NOW I saw them fighting 😂
I liked this movie seems a lot did not but I thought it was great.
Had a couple moments, but overall a crap film and a waste of Tom Hardy and his actual talent.
@@401RISaint maybe superhero movies are more your speed
My issue was the pacing. If the movie was 30 mins shorter it wouldn’t have felt as drawn out as it did
I grew up with my father riding in a 1% club. This movie was pretty much how it was.
It's tough, the movie had potential but fell a little flat when you think about each character and how simple it all was. The ending with the club turning more sinister was almost like a peak point to me that I told myself....this should of been the middle of the movie. But in the end I get it, it's literally the old timers biker movie and how these damn young hooligans are messing up a good thing lol
I,m a old guy and this is funny movie nothing like the old bike guys I knew ,these guys sound more like a kids gang ,LOL ?
How old cause those bikes were all old Harley’s except sunny hosbwas a mix of parts but still had the suicide clutch!
@@kevinhunt1202 it’s not the bikes it’s what they did !
@@kevinhunt1202 The kids gang looks like British iron
Favorite actor this, legends, and peaky blinders he killed all three
Loyalty is the only currency in groups like this. You leave your friends behind? You can't be trusted.
good impression of Benicio Del Toro
I would love to work with Tom
Haven't seen the film. I thought he was going to let the friends join and not him for dropping them.
What happened to the days where they actually had creative title names
For most of comment section, IT IS A MOVIE, NOT A REAL THING
Just saying, the guy he's playing would not be wrangled by a POS like that, he wouldn't be the first out, and his boys would have jumped on him when he approached. Pulling a knife would be a death sentence.... But what do I know
Best movie 2024!
when in a confrontation walk backward facing your enemy (not opponent) you will never lose a fight
Is this good? I've never heard of this, and I like tom hardy in most movies
The next DeNiro....both have to always play a violent character
Not always. De Niro has some great movies where he’s not violent. Meet the parents trilogy, a Bronx tale, killers of the flower moon, dirty grandpa, joker. I do agree with Tom hardy tho but that can be said about a bunch of action and drama actors.
Failing the test of being loyal... This is how the family of the biker dies...
I like Tom Hardy , but I have never seen this biker movie.
Those damn trains in the background know how to ruin a good time
He left with all his teeth, and 2 working knees.. that'll never happen again.
Reminds me of the Benny Blanco character in Carlitos Way, sort of the same effect
That should've been an easy test.
Is this Kid supposed to be Taco Bowman?
It will be very painful. For you!!
Wow, Sons of Anarchy , Jax VS Hardy would be crazy LOL
I expected more.
Is the tall blonde kid in the back the guy who played Bjorn in Vikings? It looks a lot like them if anybody can answer that please.
That kid got off too easy
That’s a bad scene from a writing and movie-making perspective. Only Tom Hardy and the Renegades’ leader spoke. Even when he told the kid to leave his friends behind and even when the kid agreed to throw them under, not one of them said a word. There was no protest, no braggadocio, no posturing or false bravado, just passive silence from a motorcycle gang. You know what this tells the audience? It tells them either that the production didn’t want to pay for any additional speaking parts or that the writer didn’t consider that all the other bodies standing around were supposed to be actual humans with thoughts, behaviors and motivations of their own.
What lol?
A good movie in the fact that it wasn't all "Born to be wild" it was very much a social club for the HS/College rejected. My wives dad exactly during that period had a bike mountain climber club. But as usual everything has to evolve into shate.
He failed his 1st exam.
With the capital a I first thought it was about Kid A by Radiohead.
Johnny knew the club was becoming a problem with that one question, you would run this club if i gave it to ya.
What a tremendous actor.
Kinda mad Austin Butler didn't get revenge, but that's how the story goes i suppose.
It's funny how to kid ends up murdering Tom'S character as Tom'S friend just watch him die without doing anything... loyalty is circumstantial