The choice of Tombstone for a redemption arc is great in my eyes because he found something where his skills and strength are put to great use, he seems to enjoy what he's doing himself on a personal level, and in a meta sense I feel like Tombstone has never been shown as having a sympathetic angle in any media, so I think it's cool to create a life outside of crime for him in this take on the mythos.
Mr Negative looks absolutely sick in his game, I'm happy to know I could see his powers in action again and the fact he plays a big role makes it better, not being forgiven but Miles putting it behind him for what could of been the man's death was refreshing, not a cheesy enemies to best friends but it just shows how Miles grew
Really love how some of these villains are being reformed and turning into a new leaf. Goes to show that there is another choice and the only thing that makes you believe their isn't is yourself. Their is no worse excuse than saying you can't change.
I really like that. I never read the comic, but I can't help but feels like characters that initially non-evil or have redeeming quality never change their way or stay good.
Insomniac just going woke. Making spider man weak and need others in order to defeat villians. Spiderman died about 3 times this game a needed miles to save him. Trying to downplay pete as a weak white man while miles is “stronger”. Spiderman 3 will probably have tombstone fight along side miles, pete and a lesbian black cat while they fight against a transgender green goblin.
THIS is what’s missing from comics in general, let alone modern Spider-Man ones! Writers willing to let some villains go as reformed, although it means little to no more stories and money from them. Heroes NEED to have some of their villains reform to show readers their heroism CAN redeem others and lead to positive lasting change.
This was my favourite part of the game. Seeing villains try to go straight makes me really believe that Spider-Man can do good. Not just for the city, but for the villains themselves.
I feel so bad for Quentin. He's got some issues, but it seems like he's making a grnuine effort to leave Mysterio behind, and use his talents for entertainment. Only to be betrayed and used by people the moment he tries a new approach to life. I hope things work out for him.
@@codyhughes8013 How would someone that you think is neutral be able to rob you? If you think that person is neutral obviously you'd have trust issues about them.
I think the reason Miles seem to be more effective Spiderman than the OG (sorry, Peter) is because Miles had a more balanced situation, with multiple trusted people knowing his secret, and HELPING him keeping it a secret. Compare that to Peter, who only entrusted this secret to MJ. The others - even those whom he SHOULD'VE trusted (aunt May), had to find out on their own. The stress of having to keep a secret that big from everyone impacted Peter's performance in life. Peter was too secretive. By comparison, Miles timidly opened up his secret to Peter in the first. Then he entrusted it to Ganke, Hailey, and most importantly, his Mom and Uncle. All of whom supported him and helped him. Miles had less to worry about, and thus, he was able to concentrate better as a more effective Spiderman.
Black Cat and Prowler are my favorite two villains that turned good. It’ll be nice to see more of those two ex-villains in Marvel’s Spider-Man 3. A, now that Aaron is retired as the Prowler, I would love to see him dating Betty Brant from the Daily Bugle. And B, I would love to see that Felicia dating her “girlfriend”. Because those two deserve a relationship in the future.
@@SatoruGojothehonoured1 Well I referring that Aaron Davis and Betty Brant would be a couple in Marvel’s Spider-Man 3. Although I don’t know if Felicia *really* has a girlfriend or not.
@@dunkus5357 I agree. She is the same woman who said that she was pregnant just to screw over Peter. Believing her sob stories are like believing that Loki's dead.
Who black cat? Yeah a gf I don’t buy it like she lied to Peter telling him she has a son which was just an excuse to help her rob something for her so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it in a dlc or part 3 if they decide to do it.
24:05 "Maybe I can ask some lawyer friends to help Marko with Visitation rights." Potential for Daredevil, She-hulk, or other heroes to make an appearance in the future :D?
Miles did right thing by saved Black Cat from Kraven and his gang. He didn't want let bad happened to Peter's old girlfriend Felicia. Felicia aka The Black Cat is ones of Peter's loved ones. Most important lesson about redemption. Repentance. Atonement. Salvation. Reform. Redemption is very good thing for everybody and anything. Never too late to make amends for mistakes and past wrongdoings. Make things right.
There's a lot of villains in the comics they can use Hydro-man, Carnage, Kindred, Hob Goblin but I think one who's in the background is possibly Morlun but that remains to be seen.
We still got a good amount left. Chameleon is hanging around, Carnage will most likely be a thing. I expect Kingpin will be back at some point. Plus Michael Morbius exists. I think Rhino is still alive somewhere too.
Can't believe Ike Amadi was the voice actor of Aaron Davis... I mean, he voiced Shao in MK11 and MK1, but it didn't occurred to me that he also voiced Aaron Davis...
Li realized that and fully accepts the fact. Miles doesn't truly forgive him either. He just decided to get over it and not let his revenge against Li affect his life negatively.
The truth is of My favorite two villains in the game is Tombstone. When he was in Coney Island he helped a man who got into an accident driving a go kart, when he was there and save him from another Go kart witch he would’ve been really hurt if Tombstone hadn’t been there. I was surprised that Tombstone changed into a good being and sounds like he had a little of prison therapist happened for him well good for him. And my favorite villain is Martin li AKA Mr.Negative, i know what he did at City Hall was awful and wrong trying to get revenge on Norman Osborn and to bomb everyone up and got Miles’s father killed. But then in this story he changed because of Miles trying to rescue his friend Spider-man from the symbiotes. Miles and Martin made a good team to save him, then Martin has say something to the two Spider-man that I won’t forget. (When you help someone. You help everyone.) he learned that kind of way from Aunt May because she joined with him at Feast and she told him he was inspired his mission to help others but then it was her that inspired him. That’s just the kind of person who May Parker really is, the kind of person that can learn what we learned. Wherever Martin Li is, he’s out there going to make things right for what he learned from Aunt May and Spider-man because that’s just the kind of person that should really be.
i still dont trust black cat. u expect me to believe she has a girlfriend in paris after wat shes done in the dlc? breaking news the mona lisa's been stolen from the loufe in paris. WONDER HWY?
Yeah, like, we had a whole DLC dedicated to her duplicitous antics, and you tell me she picks now of all times to tell the truth? Miles is young enough that she can wrap him round her little finger effortlessly. Even the girlfriend lie is a tailor made moment of modern vulnerablity. But she doesn't endanger anyone, so she's largely harmless I guess?
I’m so happy uncle Aaron, martin li, and sandman turned good they finally showed redemption and kindness to there hearts not revenge and tombstone I hope Martin went back to running feast or tried showing the kindness before his revenge for Norman i just wish vulture and them got a chance. Also what if Otto next game becomes good again
Oh yeah, first thing I thought of was that she's wanting to go to Paris to steal the Mona Lisa. She just played nice with Miles to sell the act of being genuine.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Which is why I wondered "How Much", also its a pretty safe bet that Spot is going to pop up in the next game, not even taking spiderverse into acount, but given how this & the Jack game have amazing portal sequences.
Wow I love that The Villains Characters in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 are good now and I want to see Rhino and Doctor Octopus to return in The Next Spider-Man Game
I'm not convinced Felicia actually turned good. She lied to Peter about having his baby and made it very convicing. I think she was just playing Miles 🤔
@user-nn6qp1ce4r Actually no she hasn't she was always naturally straight until woke writers decided to change that in 2021 so it dosen't count. Stan Lee would be horrified.
Villains who potentially killed thousands should definitely just be given the slip and not go to prison and not face any repercussions, modern GAYming at it’s finest. 🤓
The choice of Tombstone for a redemption arc is great in my eyes because he found something where his skills and strength are put to great use, he seems to enjoy what he's doing himself on a personal level, and in a meta sense I feel like Tombstone has never been shown as having a sympathetic angle in any media, so I think it's cool to create a life outside of crime for him in this take on the mythos.
The villains' redemption is what makes Spider-Man's No Kill Rule plausible.
Batman villian should learn something from them
@@kennyayuso6031 most of Batman’s rogues are actual psychopaths which is why redemption is simply not possible for some of them.
@@adog8811 I remembered a theory that every big villain of batman represents a mental illness. Well this isn't been confirmed so yeah.
@@kennyayuso6031 just kill that man joker already, there is no more redemption for that man
@@impidimp9331i mean it makes sense
The black cat chase is the developers just showing off what they can do and I'm here for it
true 😂
I was really surprised when they sent us to the arctic for a bit.
Same portal like R&C Rift Apart
@@iamtimmy16 That's pretty cool.
It felt like watching the demo to that most recent Ratchet and Clank game.
That’s honestly so wholesome. That some the villains actually ended up turning good.
fr fr
Its cringe
@@buttertoast1146 bro is so cold and sigma 🥶🥶🥶
True, while many more evil villains died, it was nice seeing some of them redeem themselves
@@omlg2021 bro likes 5 year old level plot lines. 🥶
Mr Negative looks absolutely sick in his game, I'm happy to know I could see his powers in action again and the fact he plays a big role makes it better, not being forgiven but Miles putting it behind him for what could of been the man's death was refreshing, not a cheesy enemies to best friends but it just shows how Miles grew
And don't forget his connection to Anti-Venom
@@ShUrIkEn2558 true
Really love how some of these villains are being reformed and turning into a new leaf. Goes to show that there is another choice and the only thing that makes you believe their isn't is yourself.
Their is no worse excuse than saying you can't change.
I really like that. I never read the comic, but I can't help but feels like characters that initially non-evil or have redeeming quality never change their way or stay good.
Insomniac just going woke. Making spider man weak and need others in order to defeat villians. Spiderman died about 3 times this game a needed miles to save him. Trying to downplay pete as a weak white man while miles is “stronger”. Spiderman 3 will probably have tombstone fight along side miles, pete and a lesbian black cat while they fight against a transgender green goblin.
@@omars1369 Pete is definitely not weak.
@@omars1369 Bad take
@@omars1369what is bro cooking
THIS is what’s missing from comics in general, let alone modern Spider-Man ones!
Writers willing to let some villains go as reformed, although it means little to no more stories and money from them. Heroes NEED to have some of their villains reform to show readers their heroism CAN redeem others and lead to positive lasting change.
Surely, evil can be tiresome?
Damn right
This was my favourite part of the game. Seeing villains try to go straight makes me really believe that Spider-Man can do good. Not just for the city, but for the villains themselves.
I feel so bad for Quentin. He's got some issues, but it seems like he's making a grnuine effort to leave Mysterio behind, and use his talents for entertainment. Only to be betrayed and used by people the moment he tries a new approach to life. I hope things work out for him.
That's actually really sweet. He's one of the few characters to survive this games blood bath so I hope he does get a shot at redemption.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective fyi quentin beck's actor is the same actor for charles smith in rdr2
@@da.rkast.e he's also Bode in Jedi Survivor
@@jacksonstuff3524Kotallo in Horizon: Forbidden West
Now that was unnexpecting, looking the big majority of the villains getting redemption
Nice to see villains changing their ways.
But it's sad to see some villains never having a chance like those killed by Kraven.
My boy Shocker will never get that chance…
@@3Guys1Video GET BACK HERE SHOCKER!!!
SHOCKEEERRR!!!
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!
I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EEEARTH!!!
Scorpion didn't exactly seem like he wanted to reform.
@@spenserfarman3045Possibly Electro too
"If only I could go more than 10 feet with this thing" gurl you literally went to the arctic during that chase
This is my favorite part of Spider-Man stories, when villains become good due to spider-man giving them an olive branch.
Villains in this game: We were bad, but now we're good.
The sinister six (except Martin And Otto):💀💀💀💀
"You are bad guy, but that doesn't mean you are bad guy"
3:59 this part got me😂😂😂
Blackcat is mostly neutral not good but not bad either
Then you’d easily get manipulated by her if you think she’s neutral
Black Cats cares about only one person.
@@codyhughes8013How? It would be the other way around.
@@FunnyRedemption you’d think she’s a neutral person then she’d rob you just like she does to Spider-Man
@@codyhughes8013 How would someone that you think is neutral be able to rob you? If you think that person is neutral obviously you'd have trust issues about them.
I think the reason Miles seem to be more effective Spiderman than the OG (sorry, Peter) is because Miles had a more balanced situation, with multiple trusted people knowing his secret, and HELPING him keeping it a secret.
Compare that to Peter, who only entrusted this secret to MJ. The others - even those whom he SHOULD'VE trusted (aunt May), had to find out on their own. The stress of having to keep a secret that big from everyone impacted Peter's performance in life. Peter was too secretive.
By comparison, Miles timidly opened up his secret to Peter in the first. Then he entrusted it to Ganke, Hailey, and most importantly, his Mom and Uncle. All of whom supported him and helped him. Miles had less to worry about, and thus, he was able to concentrate better as a more effective Spiderman.
One simply can redeemed thy self by “choosing” to do “good” rather than keep doing “bad” cause the individual deems thy self “unworthy” to do good.
Black Cat and Prowler are my favorite two villains that turned good. It’ll be nice to see more of those two ex-villains in Marvel’s Spider-Man 3. A, now that Aaron is retired as the Prowler, I would love to see him dating Betty Brant from the Daily Bugle. And B, I would love to see that Felicia dating her “girlfriend”. Because those two deserve a relationship in the future.
And by quotes who are you referring to exactly
@@SatoruGojothehonoured1 Well I referring that Aaron Davis and Betty Brant would be a couple in Marvel’s Spider-Man 3. Although I don’t know if Felicia *really* has a girlfriend or not.
@@ericle5366Yeah, she’s not exactly honest so there’s no reason to really take her at her word for anything.
@@dunkus5357 I agree. She is the same woman who said that she was pregnant just to screw over Peter.
Believing her sob stories are like believing that Loki's dead.
@@julianmitchell3035my favourite villan turned good is Martin li
It makes sense that Prowler, Black Cat would become good. But Mysterio, Li, Tombstone... This is completely different from what would actually happen!
To be fair in the comics some of the spiderman villains do become good, and sometimes society gave them a problem so they came back as villains
I just love how when tombstone turns nice
She just wants to rob the louvre
Who black cat? Yeah a gf I don’t buy it like she lied to Peter telling him she has a son which was just an excuse to help her rob something for her so yeah I’ll believe it when I see it in a dlc or part 3 if they decide to do it.
It would be hilarious if she actually had a girlfriend in Paris
@@ricardoberrios6137her name is mona lisa
Maybe her and her girlfriend want to rob it
@@Wgar1 that would be even funnier
For Black Cat, I won't exactly called her "Good".
She’s an Anti-Hero.
She’s like Catwoman, but dressed almost like the Black Canary.
She’s chaotic neutral
Funny enough it's Catwoman that dresses like Black Cat@@StarVerse2023
24:05 "Maybe I can ask some lawyer friends to help Marko with Visitation rights." Potential for Daredevil, She-hulk, or other heroes to make an appearance in the future :D?
Spider-Man (Playstation universe) 🤝 My Little Pony: Equestria Girls franchise
Redeem the 90% of their villains
Not 90 more like 40 or 50 but Steven universe be redeeming every villain under the sun
Miles did right thing by saved Black Cat from Kraven and his gang. He didn't want let bad happened to Peter's old girlfriend Felicia. Felicia aka The Black Cat is ones of Peter's loved ones.
Most important lesson about redemption. Repentance. Atonement. Salvation. Reform.
Redemption is very good thing for everybody and anything.
Never too late to make amends for mistakes and past wrongdoings. Make things right.
Tombstone was always a cool dude
With all the good and the dead. There won’t be any new ones for Spider-Man 3.
Green Goblin, Doc Ock: Where is everyone?
There's a lot of villains in the comics they can use Hydro-man, Carnage, Kindred, Hob Goblin but I think one who's in the background is possibly Morlun but that remains to be seen.
We still got a good amount left. Chameleon is hanging around, Carnage will most likely be a thing. I expect Kingpin will be back at some point. Plus Michael Morbius exists. I think Rhino is still alive somewhere too.
@@megablueflash1816Rhino took a real nasty stab in Miles Morales. He isn’t getting up from that one.
Well it's not really that they turned good in these scenes, it was just the hero realizing that they turned good
Can't believe Ike Amadi was the voice actor of Aaron Davis... I mean, he voiced Shao in MK11 and MK1, but it didn't occurred to me that he also voiced Aaron Davis...
Nice catch ^
Li doesn’t deserve any forgiveness from Miles. Especially not after putting Miles in that mind prison thing.
Li realized that and fully accepts the fact. Miles doesn't truly forgive him either. He just decided to get over it and not let his revenge against Li affect his life negatively.
@@axceljulio5747I see what you did there
@@rzgamingdarwin3348 Pun not intended, dude 😂
maybe you not understand Li
The truth is of My favorite two villains in the game is Tombstone. When he was in Coney Island he helped a man who got into an accident driving a go kart, when he was there and save him from another Go kart witch he would’ve been really hurt if Tombstone hadn’t been there. I was surprised that Tombstone changed into a good being and sounds like he had a little of prison therapist happened for him well good for him.
And my favorite villain is Martin li AKA Mr.Negative, i know what he did at City Hall was awful and wrong trying to get revenge on Norman Osborn and to bomb everyone up and got Miles’s father killed. But then in this story he changed because of Miles trying to rescue his friend Spider-man from the symbiotes. Miles and Martin made a good team to save him, then Martin has say something to the two Spider-man that I won’t forget. (When you help someone. You help everyone.) he learned that kind of way from Aunt May because she joined with him at Feast and she told him he was inspired his mission to help others but then it was her that inspired him. That’s just the kind of person who May Parker really is, the kind of person that can learn what we learned. Wherever Martin Li is, he’s out there going to make things right for what he learned from Aunt May and Spider-man because that’s just the kind of person that should really be.
4:12, is that Wong from MCU's doctor Strange ? The teleport portal moments made me think about it
Looks like it
It's probably just this universes Wong
Wong existed before the MCU
It’s a Doctor strange from Insomniac’s universe
What I love most is that in the “second” game the ex-villains got a “second” chance
Black Cat “ If only I could figure out how to go more than ten feet with this thing.” 2 minutes earlier in the Antarctic 🇦🇶
love how some of these villains into good guys
I honestly like the approach for this game. I do wish we got more development. But it is nice.
prowler, even though retired, still got it
Dude Sandman makes me cry, always felt bad for him
It seems like Miles have more success in redeeming villains.
You don't see what insomniac is doing eh?
It’s in line to how it is in the comics because he is pals with Rhinos so he’s good with talking it out.
this is super weird that some of these characters are allowed to run free considering how many people they've murdered
2:35 most heartbreaking scene in the game
True 😢
3:40 "Bye Felicia"
Yeah, good luck with that.
The Black Cat chase is a nod to an older game...
If may saw what Martin li did to save Peter and miles I think she would be proud of him
That combo save was crazy
The black cat chase reminds me of the black cat chase in the old Spider-Man 2 game.
At this point they should make an open world spiderman game
Harry looks like Agent Venom there
Martin Lee gave them powers I’m glad for that
Ngl but i would love to see these guys again when Spiderman 3 comes out
It seems like lee regrets what he did ,optimisprime once said ,what have i done.
And now Felicia is gonna steal the mona lisa
i still dont trust black cat. u expect me to believe she has a girlfriend in paris after wat shes done in the dlc? breaking news the mona lisa's been stolen from the loufe in paris. WONDER HWY?
Yeah, like, we had a whole DLC dedicated to her duplicitous antics, and you tell me she picks now of all times to tell the truth? Miles is young enough that she can wrap him round her little finger effortlessly. Even the girlfriend lie is a tailor made moment of modern vulnerablity. But she doesn't endanger anyone, so she's largely harmless I guess?
So weird seeing that tombstone is a good guy now
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
They be getting that life changing fade
Black cat is so daaaamn fine
I’m so happy uncle Aaron, martin li, and sandman turned good they finally showed redemption and kindness to there hearts not revenge and tombstone I hope Martin went back to running feast or tried showing the kindness before his revenge for Norman i just wish vulture and them got a chance. Also what if Otto next game becomes good again
I’m pretty sure the Black Cat just used Miles so that she could get to Paris in one piece to steal shit
Oh yeah, first thing I thought of was that she's wanting to go to Paris to steal the Mona Lisa. She just played nice with Miles to sell the act of being genuine.
I wonder how much the Black Cat sequence was influenced by the Spot
It was influenced by Doctor Strange to the extent it not only used the same Portals but used his Wand to do it. That's where she stole it from.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Which is why I wondered "How Much", also its a pretty safe bet that Spot is going to pop up in the next game, not even taking spiderverse into acount, but given how this & the Jack game have amazing portal sequences.
Aaron's redemption arc was in Miles Morales not in Spider-Man 2
All them became good except Norman good to evil
Norman Osborn is the reason that Martin Li's parents died.
Black cat looks so hot with that suit, like DAAAAAAMN
oh...i like the dynamic between Felicia and Peter...why they throw it away
Something tells me you can't trust everything she says the "Girlfriend in Paris" she mentioned could just be the Mona Lisa! 😂😂😂
They didn’t throw anything away though. They only dated in the past and showed no sign of them ever dating again.
Bigger question is who's going to explain the train in the house 😂😂😂
The End of Gang Wars
Why did all these fucking villain decide to work at Coney Island😂. And how does Spider-Man not know what happens to his villains.
Black cat got like 6 minutes of screen time but she made it like 6 hours
Wow I love that The Villains Characters in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 are good now and I want to see Rhino and Doctor Octopus to return in The Next Spider-Man Game
Doc oc is in the post credit scene with Norman who's about to get the goblin serum. It's implied a team up against the spidermen
Check the bloody post credit, dum dum
@@knjegovan9I already saw it
Hate to break it to you, but Kraven got Rhino…
@3Guys1Video He did not kill Rhino He only killed Scorpion Vulture Electro and Shocker
after looking that magic wands, i'm waiting for dr strange game from insomniac
Did Mysterio
Turn good?
I'm not convinced Felicia actually turned good. She lied to Peter about having his baby and made it very convicing. I think she was just playing Miles 🤔
Narratively its weird for her motivations to be so straightforward
Considering she went to Paris there's a good chance Felicia's Girlfriend name is Mona Lisa!!!😅 😂
I mean yeah... + let's be real she is 100% returning in the next game.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detectiveor the possible DLC of this game
Insomniac need to make an Avengers Game
Remember villains?
Never realised tombstones teeth are RAZOR SHARP
Yeah they're like that in the comics too, supper jagged probably because of the acid he was dumped into when he was a kid.
Does anyway know what thats notes suppose to hint at or mean in black cat part?
If either No way home or Web of Shadows was like that
I doubt some of these stick lol
0:11 0:13
Is this a normal part of the story where they turn good
so they switched harry and flash and now there's 3 spider man
Doctor strange sanctum sentorum
Was he using a knife or was he just punching him really hard
This is cool
She go to the Doctor Strange house.
33:25
Dr starge scroll what
Insomniac cook and the spice of black cat was not there because she A lesbian thank you Insomniac men can’t be attracted to black cat thanks Insomniac
Never thought I'd see the day, they actually make peace with the spider, tombstone, prowler.. just, that's development
My girlfriends in Paris, and the going gorillas?
Very cringe trope
2 hours ago 😅
Felicia's gay?
Bisexual
And yet apparently Peter’s never considered redeeming any of his villains despite this 🤡
🕸🕸🕸🕸👍👍👍👍😊
I'm still not trust villains
i still trust Li
Never trust A Villains
@@cheemslord9917me to
Glad they could reach their quota for minorities in this game
We still need hispanic Spider-Man
Miguel O'Hara: "Did someone say Hispanic Spider-Man?" :D
Cindy Moon: Yeah... but it's not you, sorry bud.
Aw man, they made Black Cat a Lesbo?
Actually, she has been bi in the comics for a long time. So no, they didn't make her lesbian
@user-nn6qp1ce4r Actually no she hasn't she was always naturally straight until woke writers decided to change that in 2021 so it dosen't count. Stan Lee would be horrified.
She in love with spider man! She not a lesbian
@@spyrodrake7050 she doesn't know what love is. the only thing that she loves is the thrill. I have no desire to deal with her nonsense.
@@JLOCC23424 that not what woke mean use it correctly
Villains who potentially killed thousands should definitely just be given the slip and not go to prison and not face any repercussions, modern GAYming at it’s finest. 🤓
at least Li went to the cops
Those villains weren’t as evil as say Scorpion or Doc Ock,sure Martin Li was pretty sinister but he redeemed too.