Completely agree! Wish you had one of the single stack mini 1911s to throw in there for comparison! (Sig 238/938, Springfield 911, Kimber micro/micro 9.)
I feel like it’s getting ridiculous with how people are carrying rn. I see so many people trying to conceal full size or compact handguns and they print terribly . I don’t understand everyone’s desire to have 15 or more rounds on everything they carry.
I dont understand it either. The majority of us will never even have to fire 1 round in a SD situation. Let alone 15-20 rounds. My EDC’s are all single stack, anywhere from 7-9 rounds. Ruger LC9s, Glock 43, XDS mod 2.
It's the "in" thing because the FBI switched to it, and regardless of the evolution of 9mm, it is still not as effective as the bigger rounds. Just watch shooting body cam videos, sometimes 15 rounds of 9 mm makes them go sit down, whereas a .40 or .45 drops them with 2 or 3. I have studied a lot of the research and data, and talked to a lot of people who have been around shootings, and a lot of the data is misconstrued. Yes, 9 mm is better than it used to be, and it is fairly effective… But it takes more of it many times to get the job done. But people like that it's lighter and cheaper, and recoils less. Having said that, there is one thing that is correct, though… We are seeing a lot more multiple assailant attacks than we used to. I personally look at it this way - I'm ok with 6 rounds of .45, but I generally won't carry less than 10 rounds of 9mm if I can help it.
@@dominickvelezjr9171 you have homeowners insurance in case of fire, right? But how many of us will have our homes burn down? You are right, most of us will never fire around in self-defense, and so carrying more doesn't make sense… bit that os only until the one time you need it. It's all about evaluating risk. Everybody should always make sure that their carry gun matches the situation that they might encounter realistically. Where I live, a pocket 380 will most likely deal with anything I would ever run into. But when I go into a city? I'm going to have more capacity and a more powerful cartridge.
Your channel getting me to rethink a 9mm or 380 pocket pistol. I normally run a j frame in the pocket for years. Your review of pocket locker holster changed my opinion. Thanks for your work on your videos. Take care🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
The 9mm I carried the most over the years was my CM9, followed closely by the lc9s. I’ve found my p365 to fit well, but 10+1 starts to get a bit heavy. I still pocket it occasionally, but not often anymore.
Just bought a Beretta APX A1 Carry for $225 after the Beretta rebate as a 9mm pocket pistol. 8+1 rounds of Federal HST 124 grain. Will always go bang. Beretta been around for 500 years and make awesome firearms
@@spnfirearms Molly's Place Sporting Goods They have the black, green, and flat dark earth for $275 plus $50 Beretta rebate. Unfortunately the wolf grey one is not on sale 😢. I got the FDE. Haven't shot it yet but love the look and feel. Has a smooth double action trigger that gets better after some rounds and optics ready. You have to get optic plates separate for $30 each
Great review. Like my FN 503 too. Have an old Berretta Nano that's tops for smooth draw from pocket, great accuracy without any hiccups from 124 grain or above ( all the notorious fte/ ff issues were from 115 grain of which Berretta says not to use) and I also use a Springfield model 2 3.3 in 45 that works flawlessly that carries well in cargo pockets here in Florida.
I've found lcp max, ec9s, 365, and Glock 42 all to be great pocket carry options with either vedder locker or a desantis. And of course, the pocket itself matters a great dealm
The PPS M2 and the 43X are 2of my favorite to carry. The CZ P10M or P10S are 2 that I'm considering. I'm also gonna take a look at the DB9. Nice video.
Switched from iwb to pocket carry for almost 2 years now, I agree it is the most comfortable way to carry. I pocket carry my LCP MAX with 12 round mag in Vedder pocket locker. Currently trying out the alien gear pocket holster for my shield 2.0, it would only fit in pant with bigger pocket but I would rather have shield on me if I ever have to defend myself. Thinking about getting the shield plus in 30 super carry, 30 rounds with the spare is hard to pass up.
I’m sorry but how is any carrying anything larger than lcp in there pocket ? These are holster required firearms. Either I love seeing so many firearms
The Db9 is the only one in the list that actually is a pocket carry do to size and weight. Your missing the Kahr cm9/pm9 models. Slim,light weight, and dependable and now, a use one is affordable if bought from a private seller. If you go 380 acp then Kel-tec 3At, Beretta Pico and the old colt mustang double action model. Am, mentioned here also can shoot +p ammo and confirmed by the manufacturer. P.S. THERE is no Sami stats for a +p 380 acp but Buffalo bore does make a great HARDCAST round both standard PRESURE and +p if you live in a CONSTITUTIONAL state were you can hunt and fish while carrying conceal.
Love pocket carry! My fav method. G26 in Vedder Pocket Locker :) Also, bought a DB9 gen4 brand new. Having tons of feeding issues after my first 75 rounds were perfect. I’m going to send it back to them. Hope they can sort it out. BTW your channel is awesome and you release so much content! Thanks!
I have to wear the right pants or shorts otherwise it won’t be down far enough to hide….but works ok with the right pocket and a belt on. I will say the draw is a touch slower than some other setups I have.
I have a few of these guns and I dont see how any of these can be considered pocket carry. Something like an lcp pockets like a phone. All these 9mms to me are more for belt carry. I have a shield plus I probably carry the most and It just wouldnt work putting that in the pocket and going to the office or grocery store. A shield in the front pockets of levis or slacks just looks obvious. I'm not a lumberjack. Way too big but its totally comfortable and disappears under a t shirt in something like a tulster contour.
Beretta 3032 Tomcat with xtreme defenders and it disappears. Also have a Kahr cw380 that I carry in a cargo pocket (with appropriate holster) or with a form fitting suit
My Glock 19 is nice in an LAS Concealment Ronin. But there are certain places that it can’t go. I’m still between .380 and 9mm, and there are so many choices. Ruger, Kahr, Glock, etc. It’s so hard to choose!
I rarely carry 9mm Para, but I do carry other 9mm cartridges. Most commonly, I carry 9mm "Short," aka .380; or I carry 9mm "Fast," aka .357 Sig. Sometimes I carry .40 S&W or .327 Federal.
I carry two guns. My main go to is the OG Smoth and Wesson shield without a safety. 9 rounds in the piece and a 10 round Extended mag as a back up. Been most reliable gun ever owned. Been carrying since 2012. Also I carry a Diamondback DB9 GEN 1 in the pocket or usually on the ankle. Been a pretty reliable gun to. No back up mag for it. Just 1 6 round. Great video bud. These guns make great pocket carry guns for summer and spring
U need to upgrade bro. So many better options with double stack micro 9mm. Taurus G4x for $250 cash at gunshow + $70 to install night sights. I have p365 also. But i only ccw my g42. Lol
Great video on pocket pistols that won’t break the bank but does the job. My EDC appendix carry is a beretta centurion with a baldr pro mini. I love 15 rounds. I think I may have to check one of these out for a shorts and tshirt day
hey what about the ruger ec9s? I love this pocket carry. It's sleek design is perfect for your pocket and totally reliable. 7+1 is enough for me as well. I really can't think of anything better for pocket carry and I would of paid a lot more for it. Price was not a factor.
with .380 it's not as much the firearm as it is the round. Hollow points are not traveling fast enough to mushroom. Slugs do little damage. The best round for .380 seems to be the 'Fluid Displacement Monolithic Ammunition' or FDMA, a slug with a crucifix tip that creates a massive wound channel.
Out dated??? Out dated my ass! LOL!! You've got a nice selection of single stack pistols...All of which will do the necessary social work that they were intended to do as long as you've got them loaded with good quality defense ammo. For pocket carry I've got an LCP-2 with an Alabama pocket holster, that combo works very well for me. I'm thinking that the DB9 will be my next firearm purchase. If it's a little too big for pocket carry, I know it will work well at 2 o'clock/4 o'clock. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I’d love to hear your input on the Kahr line up, still waiting on their hellcat/365 etc competitor but still one of my favorite single stacks. Unique trigger but that’s what I love about it
In a jacket I could probably carry all of these, but I’ve never found a 9mm that I could pocket carry in the front pocket of any pants. I mean sure, I could get them in there, but it also screams “hey look, there’s a gun in my pocket that is way too big to be in a pants pocket.” What type of pants and pockets are we talking about here? I’m genuinely curious and would like to know.
Off subject but could you test some of your guns with a comment I made recently on your video (is Glock perfection real) by just slowly racking rounds out, thanks
@@uglydogg4995 just thought it might have something to do with my failures to eject want to make sure my Glock 48 isn’t the only one that’s hard to slowly eject a round. All my other guns don’t behave this way. Might be the PSA magazines or it’s not broke in yet but I have over 300 rounds
Not trying to be cynical, but you’re going to lose subs and not gain new subs when everything’s about pocket carry. Your potential as a channel is there, but several videos a week about the same old pocket carry gets old. I’m not trying to be a dick, it’s constructive criticism.
Me personally I love the look of a worn out (battle worn) gun. Your FN is the best looking gun you got on that table
Completely agree! Wish you had one of the single stack mini 1911s to throw in there for comparison! (Sig 238/938, Springfield 911, Kimber micro/micro 9.)
It’s on the list to get! They look amazing!
@@spnfirearmssig baby is supreme over Kimber browning or Springfield. Ask me how I know?!
I feel like it’s getting ridiculous with how people are carrying rn. I see so many people trying to conceal full size or compact handguns and they print terribly . I don’t understand everyone’s desire to have 15 or more rounds on everything they carry.
I agree. You are giving it away and defeating the purpose of carry!
I dont understand it either. The majority of us will never even have to fire 1 round in a SD situation. Let alone 15-20 rounds. My EDC’s are all single stack, anywhere from 7-9 rounds. Ruger LC9s, Glock 43, XDS mod 2.
@@dominickvelezjr9171facts
It's the "in" thing because the FBI switched to it, and regardless of the evolution of 9mm, it is still not as effective as the bigger rounds. Just watch shooting body cam videos, sometimes 15 rounds of 9 mm makes them go sit down, whereas a .40 or .45 drops them with 2 or 3. I have studied a lot of the research and data, and talked to a lot of people who have been around shootings, and a lot of the data is misconstrued. Yes, 9 mm is better than it used to be, and it is fairly effective… But it takes more of it many times to get the job done. But people like that it's lighter and cheaper, and recoils less. Having said that, there is one thing that is correct, though… We are seeing a lot more multiple assailant attacks than we used to. I personally look at it this way - I'm ok with 6 rounds of .45, but I generally won't carry less than 10 rounds of 9mm if I can help it.
@@dominickvelezjr9171 you have homeowners insurance in case of fire, right? But how many of us will have our homes burn down? You are right, most of us will never fire around in self-defense, and so carrying more doesn't make sense… bit that os only until the one time you need it. It's all about evaluating risk. Everybody should always make sure that their carry gun matches the situation that they might encounter realistically. Where I live, a pocket 380 will most likely deal with anything I would ever run into. But when I go into a city? I'm going to have more capacity and a more powerful cartridge.
My go to pocket pistol is the LC9s. 8 rounds of 9mm. 6yrs strong and not 1 failure.
Yessir! I have the ec9s! Love it
Your channel getting me to rethink a 9mm or 380 pocket pistol.
I normally run a j frame in the pocket for years. Your review of pocket locker holster changed my opinion. Thanks for your work on your videos. Take care🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
I appreciate the comment! Thank you for watching and respect!
I’ve watched 100 of these videos and never can make up my mind
I can relate..!
Same. Every time I think my mind is made up something changes
Same here. I change my mind every damned video. As this is 7 months later, did you ever pick one? If so, why that one?
The 9mm I carried the most over the years was my CM9, followed closely by the lc9s. I’ve found my p365 to fit well, but 10+1 starts to get a bit heavy. I still pocket it occasionally, but not often anymore.
Fair enough! Great choices. Respect!
CM9/PM9 wins
Just bought a Beretta APX A1 Carry for $225 after the Beretta rebate as a 9mm pocket pistol. 8+1 rounds of Federal HST 124 grain. Will always go bang. Beretta been around for 500 years and make awesome firearms
Ill have to get one! Where’d you get it from?
@@spnfirearms Molly's Place Sporting Goods They have the black, green, and flat dark earth for $275 plus $50 Beretta rebate. Unfortunately the wolf grey one is not on sale 😢. I got the FDE. Haven't shot it yet but love the look and feel. Has a smooth double action trigger that gets better after some rounds and optics ready. You have to get optic plates separate for $30 each
For the record, you should have a glock 26 in every video. 😂 Seriously though, a size comparison with it just on the table would have been great too.
Haha that’s actually a great idea! I got you! Respect
Great review. Like my FN 503 too. Have an old Berretta Nano that's tops for smooth draw from pocket, great accuracy without any hiccups from 124 grain or above ( all the notorious fte/ ff issues were from 115 grain of which Berretta says not to use) and I also use a Springfield model 2 3.3 in 45 that works flawlessly that carries well in cargo pockets here in Florida.
I've found lcp max, ec9s, 365, and Glock 42 all to be great pocket carry options with either vedder locker or a desantis. And of course, the pocket itself matters a great dealm
Yes agreed! Great choices! Respect
The PPS M2 and the 43X are 2of my favorite to carry. The CZ P10M or P10S are 2 that I'm considering. I'm also gonna take a look at the DB9.
Nice video.
I carry my Ruger LCP MAX .380 10 + 1 is my Go To! I have been thinking of the DiamondBack DB9 Cost effective. Fun to shoot easy to hide!
A blast to shoot! Love the db9!
Switched from iwb to pocket carry for almost 2 years now, I agree it is the most comfortable way to carry. I pocket carry my LCP MAX with 12 round mag in Vedder pocket locker. Currently trying out the alien gear pocket holster for my shield 2.0, it would only fit in pant with bigger pocket but I would rather have shield on me if I ever have to defend myself. Thinking about getting the shield plus in 30 super carry, 30 rounds with the spare is hard to pass up.
All of that sounds great to me! Respect!
His family strapped .
I’m sorry but how is any carrying anything larger than lcp in there pocket ? These are holster required firearms. Either I love seeing so many firearms
Vedder pocket locker holster!
Great discussion.
Thank you man, respect
The Db9 is the only one in the list that actually is a pocket carry do to size and weight. Your missing the Kahr cm9/pm9 models. Slim,light weight, and dependable and now, a use one is affordable if bought from a private seller.
If you go 380 acp then Kel-tec 3At, Beretta Pico and the old colt mustang double action model.
Am, mentioned here also can shoot +p ammo and confirmed by the manufacturer.
P.S.
THERE is no Sami stats for a +p 380 acp but Buffalo bore does make a great HARDCAST round both standard PRESURE and +p if you live in a CONSTITUTIONAL state were you can hunt and fish while carrying conceal.
Love pocket carry! My fav method. G26 in Vedder Pocket Locker :)
Also, bought a DB9 gen4 brand new. Having tons of feeding issues after my first 75 rounds were perfect. I’m going to send it back to them. Hope they can sort it out.
BTW your channel is awesome and you release so much content! Thanks!
Wow interesting! Mine has been flawless. Love to hear you are carrying the 26! Respect
Thanks for all your content!
How far down is the pistol in your pocket
I have to wear the right pants or shorts otherwise it won’t be down far enough to hide….but works ok with the right pocket and a belt on. I will say the draw is a touch slower than some other setups I have.
4:20 falling off a ladder- way more dangerous than a gas station. Glad you survived that!
Which one is the smallest?
Db9
I have a few of these guns and I dont see how any of these can be considered pocket carry. Something like an lcp pockets like a phone. All these 9mms to me are more for belt carry. I have a shield plus I probably carry the most and It just wouldnt work putting that in the pocket and going to the office or grocery store. A shield in the front pockets of levis or slacks just looks obvious. I'm not a lumberjack. Way too big but its totally comfortable and disappears under a t shirt in something like a tulster contour.
all his jeans must be jnco jeans 😆 i own sig p365 rarely pocket carry it only my lcp max
Best pocket pistol is the Ruger LCP Max with 13 rounds of Hornady American Gunner Hollow Points and extra 12 round mag 🔫
Beretta 3032 Tomcat with xtreme defenders and it disappears. Also have a Kahr cw380 that I carry in a cargo pocket (with appropriate holster) or with a form fitting suit
Very nice! Respect!
My Glock 19 is nice in an LAS Concealment Ronin. But there are certain places that it can’t go. I’m still between .380 and 9mm, and there are so many choices. Ruger, Kahr, Glock, etc. It’s so hard to choose!
You have any J frame guns for pocket carry…especially shooting from inside jacket pocket.
Yes the 642 Airweight!
I rarely carry 9mm Para, but I do carry other 9mm cartridges. Most commonly, I carry 9mm "Short," aka .380; or I carry 9mm "Fast," aka .357 Sig. Sometimes I carry .40 S&W or .327 Federal.
I carry two guns. My main go to is the OG Smoth and Wesson shield without a safety. 9 rounds in the piece and a 10 round Extended mag as a back up. Been most reliable gun ever owned. Been carrying since 2012. Also I carry a Diamondback DB9 GEN 1 in the pocket or usually on the ankle. Been a pretty reliable gun to. No back up mag for it. Just 1 6 round. Great video bud. These guns make great pocket carry guns for summer and spring
U need to upgrade bro. So many better options with double stack micro 9mm. Taurus G4x for $250 cash at gunshow + $70 to install night sights. I have p365 also. But i only ccw my g42. Lol
The EC9s is great for pocket carry
It really is! Respect
So I’m really new to this whole concealed carry thing I know the basic stuff but if my pistol prints in my pants at all, is that gonna be an issue?
Micro pistol
A real niche for 9mm
Glock 26 and hellcat. Hellcat is a bit snappy but you get used to it after a while.
Yes and great choice! Respect!
G42 with mag guts all day most days in a vedder pocket locker.
Awesome choice! Respect!
How many rounds does mag guys offer?
+2?
Great video on pocket pistols that won’t break the bank but does the job. My EDC appendix carry is a beretta centurion with a baldr pro mini. I love 15 rounds. I think I may have to check one of these out for a shorts and tshirt day
Yes great idea! And nice choice! Respect!
Why isnt the gx4 up here?
Pocket carry Im looking into is bodyguard 380 or g42.
Yes both great options! The 42 can take more of a beating but the bodyguard is smaller! Love them both!
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I freaking love my PPS M2 LE. I shoot it as well as I do my PDP
Laye to the party on this one, but...
Do you have any personal experience with the Kahr CM9?
Looking for a thin pocket carry.
hey what about the ruger ec9s? I love this pocket carry. It's sleek design is perfect for your pocket and totally reliable. 7+1 is enough for me as well. I really can't think of anything better for pocket carry and I would of paid a lot more for it. Price was not a factor.
This is strictly my pocket pistol video. The ec9s was featured in my single stacks video! Love the ec9s!
thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out
Good review
Thanks man, respect!
with .380 it's not as much the firearm as it is the round. Hollow points are not traveling fast enough to mushroom. Slugs do little damage. The best round for .380 seems to be the 'Fluid Displacement Monolithic Ammunition' or FDMA, a slug with a crucifix tip that creates a massive wound channel.
You dropping that heat man! Love the channel my g!
I appreciate that man, thank you for your support and respect!
Great review!!!
Revolver - fire from within the pocket
The Kahr PM9 is the best pocket 9mm in my opinion.
Why were u on a ladder at 4AM?!
So you would not recommend the FN Reflex? I was thinking about getting it
Out dated??? Out dated my ass! LOL!! You've got a nice selection of single stack pistols...All of which will do the necessary social work that they were intended to do as long as you've got them loaded with good quality defense ammo. For pocket carry I've got an LCP-2 with an Alabama pocket holster, that combo works very well for me. I'm thinking that the DB9 will be my next firearm purchase. If it's a little too big for pocket carry, I know it will work well at 2 o'clock/4 o'clock. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You truly are rubbing off just copped brand mew Gen 5 Glock 26 im in love looking for pocket next and fde hellcat
I’m glad to hear man, great choice. Respect!
It is what it is
I carry my hellcat pro with a TLR7a and a 507k optic in a Trex Arms Sidecar all day everyday. I'll be carrying my G20 once winter gets here tho.
Very nice setup! Respect!
The S in glock stands for safety 😊
What time do you go to sleep to wake up at 3:30am??
No Kahr CM9? Ruger EC9? Im not a big fan of either, but i know a few people that carry them very often.
You lost me when you said to serialize your P80 frame.
Opinions on the canik mete mc9?
They are sending me a new guide rod and spring assembly because mine has been unreliable after 720 rounds
@@spnfirearms thanks for the info! I was torn between that and the csx I guess I know which direction I'm going. Keep up the content 🤙🏼
What kind of mag extension is on the G43?
You need to add a FN reflex to the collection
Fair enough! Love my reflex
Carried my Hellcat today. Will be carrying my Shield Plus tomorrow. Just ordered a DB9 Gen4 for $250.
I've carried the gen 4 since it came out put a lot of rounds through it u will love it trust me.
@bobbytarte2299 thank you, I'm going to shoot it this weekend.
I’d love to hear your input on the Kahr line up, still waiting on their hellcat/365 etc competitor but still one of my favorite single stacks. Unique trigger but that’s what I love about it
My karr held 12 in the magazine
It was accurate and reliable
Where did you get the p80 frame ?
Kahar pm9 good but I like the Glock 43 or czp and Walter is incredible it’s a coin toss between czp and Walter
Where are you getting your serialized single stack p80s?
I would also like to know this, I can't find them anywhere online that is serialized and finished out (aka all the holes drilled)
I don’t like 380 because it’s more expensive to train with & the ballistics aren’t as good as a 9mm
Exactly. 380 makes sense for ruger lcp for the deepest concealment option
I carried my P365X today.
Been looking around for g43 complete frames to slap my 43x slide on . Sometimes it’s too big
Check out rifle supply they have them for good deals often
43x with a trigger guard!
Respect!
Thats like the length of 19 tho
That's why all these kids wear xxxl hoodies, they can hide large guns and a lot of them are
Best 40 cals next
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In a jacket I could probably carry all of these, but I’ve never found a 9mm that I could pocket carry in the front pocket of any pants. I mean sure, I could get them in there, but it also screams “hey look, there’s a gun in my pocket that is way too big to be in a pants pocket.” What type of pants and pockets are we talking about here? I’m genuinely curious and would like to know.
Yeah me too.
It’s pointless to have a red dot while pock carrying. I like it better on my canik along with my o light
My local FFL got a 503 I’m so tempted
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2A!
LCR
Respect 💯
Off subject but could you test some of your guns with a comment I made recently on your video (is Glock perfection real) by just slowly racking rounds out, thanks
What’s this supposed to prove?
@@uglydogg4995 just thought it might have something to do with my failures to eject want to make sure my Glock 48 isn’t the only one that’s hard to slowly eject a round. All my other guns don’t behave this way. Might be the PSA magazines or it’s not broke in yet but I have over 300 rounds
@@jamesgaller1046 any gun has a hard time if you slowly try to eject the round. It’s not just a Glock thing. You’re fine!
@@uglydogg4995hope so cause I’m sick of reliability issues, my Glock 19 , 32, and 20 eject super easy so does my Canik MC9 and Taurus G3C
@@jamesgaller1046does it happen with glock mags if you have them
So no love for Taurus G C 3
Not trying to be cynical, but you’re going to lose subs and not gain new subs when everything’s about pocket carry. Your potential as a channel is there, but several videos a week about the same old pocket carry gets old.
I’m not trying to be a dick, it’s constructive criticism.
Hes addicted
which has the least height
Next on the list if my glock 43
Video starts at 2:35
kahr
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