I won't keep a gun in my inventory that can't cycle factory ammo properly. There is just no reason to put up with that. Some guns need to be broken in, but after that it must run reliably otherwise it's a lemon. Thanks for yet another great review Nutn!!
The po7 in 9 mm cycles flawless. Never had one failure. And cz offers plenty of site choices as well as nite sites I have them. There customer service is outstanding. Also a leather Tagua belt slide holster for a xd fits like a glove
I'd like to see an updated review of the 2014 version of the CZ P-07. They fixed a lot of things that Nutnfancy talked about and also added some stuff. Smoothed edges, user replaceable back straps, steel sights with luminova dots, reduced mag capacity by one round(easier to load now), new slide finish, new trigger(not as curved), front and rear slide serrations.
CBRNe8310 Just Picked up a new P-07, haven`t got taken it to the range yet. The magazines are 15 rounds, but it came with 2 magazine extensions which look like they should increase them to 17. Haven`t loaded them up yet.
Just a heads up, the USPc serpa holster does fit the p-07, retention functioning flawlessly for those interested in purchasing holsters. I've used this combo for IDPA extremely successfully. I'll add a model number for the correct version at a later date. Good to see this video finally up!
From working at a large-retail store that sells this model (in 9mm), customers who hold the gun really like the way that this gun feels in hand. A lot of people are bugged by the low slide when they try to charge it, but their love for the ergonomics tends to outweigh this. Also something interesting to note is that the safety can only be engaged when hammer is cocked. The safety does not decock the pistol either.
I have a .40 p07 that I've put over 2k of Win white box through,as well as other loads. No failures or problems. Got a IWB holster from Crossbreed tat is great, love this gun.
My guess to why you're having failures to go into battery is because in almost all over those scenes, it appears that you just can't handle the recoil. Many times it appeared that you were barely holding it, and it was flying around in your hands. Obviously, the bench shooting scene, it was jumping around terribly, and it didn't go into battery one of those times you showed. The guy at 9:20 was showing the least recoil, so let him or someone else test it out for a year and then see what happens.
There are not extended mags specific to the P07 Duty, But you can use the P09 mags which are 19rds. . . or you can get mag extensions from CZ or CZ Custom shop which will take your factory mags to 20rd mags.
I have the PO7 Duty in 9mm and absolutely love this gun. Extremely accurate out of the box. I'm a big guy with big hands and I love the grip. Was surprised to hear smaller hands like it as well. Having said that, all of Nutn's comments about sharp edges, sights, lack of accessories are all true. However, I've had no problems with the edges snagging on anything in real use. For concealed carry, I have an Alabama IWB kydex holster that I carry at 5 o'clock and I can get it out every time without an issue. The frame IS a little fat but it doesn't print at all carried in that position (BTW, Alabama holster makes an awesome holster that fits this gun like a glove but their customer service is beyond deplorable- 14 weeks to delivery and an obnoxious attitude to a single email status request doesn't cut it). The weight is very nice and the gun is well balanced. Magazine prices ARE ridiculous and CZ should do something about that. Still, my favorite carry and a GREAT gun to own.
I have one in 9mm the only problem I found is DO NOT CLEAN WITH HOPPS #9!!! I found that the cleaner will make the plastic soft. My mags stick now also I have a CXP4 and had to replace the buffer in that because of the cleaner messed it up. Other than that still shoots great and is a wicked little firearm.
I have this in 9mm. It is my sidearm for 3 gun matches ( till I get a P-09). Mine has been 100% reliable and quite accurate. Mine came with a lighter trigger 7 lbs double 3 single. I tried my regular CZ-75 mags in it and they work. A little bit of play side to side as the width of the P-07 mages are a bit wider. They lock back after each round. Fed with 100% reliability with any and all bullet types and weights. they do stick out a bit longer as well. These in 9mm are great pistols!!
Maybe this has been pointed out already, but if you use a corner of the plastic magazine base to push out the takedown pin, you can usually push it in far enough to pull it out with your fingers from the other side. Love your reviews! Thanks!
I, too, have a P-07. It works just fine for me at the range. The shorter barrel (compared to my 1911 and CZ SP-01 Tactical) is a little more challenging. I am totally satisfied with this pistol. I opted for an older model, mainly because mine has night sights, front and rear, an extended barrel (not threaded), and a trigger I just love (more of a hook shape compared to the 2014 model).
I haven't read through all five hundred or so comments or anything so this may have been mentioned, but the floor plate of the magazine works perfectly for taking the slide pin out. Also another mention for one in 9mm with zero problems
Funny story...I watched this review when it came out. A short time later I bought a P-07 in .40 Just re-watched the review 12/2015, and based on your final comments, I asked myself why I bought it in the first place! Oh well, mine primarily serves as home protection. It only has 50 to 100 rounds through it, with no malfunctions. I occasionally travel with it, as it's less expensive to replace.
Just a little something I found useful in disassembling CZs without tools: use one hand to prop back the slide by drawing back on the rear sight with an index finger, while preventing movement by using the beaver tail as leverage with that same hand's thumb, (squeezing the slide to the frame). Then use the side or under-side of an off-hand knuckle to press out the slide stop, (the underside of my thumb knuckle works well for me). The trigger guard can be grasped for pressing-hand leverage.
Longtime subscriber, 1st time commentor. I really enjoyed the review/comments on the P-07. I'm a big CZ fan but don't own one yet. I've been debating whether to purchase the P-07 or a Glock in .40S&W. The debate is ongoing after this review. Another issue I have is magazine compatibility. P-07 magazines won't fit it any other CZ handgun. Glocks allow this across the board, compact to subcompact included. Hopefully CZ works out the kinks & makes a subcompact P-07. I'm in the market for both.
I had the 9mm and no problem with any factory rounds the whole time I had it. Everything else you said was correct on extra magazines, etc. I gave it to my brother as a gift since he needed a pistol and the PO-7 was my cheapest pistol.
I have the P07 in 9mm. Pure perfection. I have only ran 250 rounds through it so far (50 of those being H.P) and 0 failures of any kind. That sucks that the .40 is so non- reliable. Bummer.. I was actually thinking of getting one in 40 as well; having been so happy with the 9mm. Thanks for the informative vid. You just saved me 450.00 and a whole lot of frustration. If anyone is looking for a DA/SA Midsized 9mm; check out the P07. That one DOES run- unlike its .40 sibling.
I have the CZ 75 p07 duty and love it! Zero malfunctions. Cz manual recommends using the mag to push out the takedown pin. Field striping not bad once you get use to it. I highly recommend this pistol.
I have to agree with Angus, the P-07 in 9mm is superb. The only problem I had was the paint on the front sight chipped off after a couple of years, I went to a red fiber optic and now I like the P-07 more than ever. I've run it in all weather and never once had any kind of failure, I can't say that about my Glocks or my H&K USP. The ergonomics of this gun inspires confidence which becomes evident on your target, give the P-07 9mm a try and I'm sure you'll enjoy similar success.
Nice review. Thanks for the detail. I bought a P-07 in the 9 mm variant because of the failure to feed issue in the .40 cal. I read a couple of articles that stated they had an issue with certain FMJ angles. That being said, I have really enjoyed my 9 mm. Shoots very nice and accurate. First shot out of the box at 25 yards was dead center bulls eye. I plan on buying an inside waistband holster that is molded for this gun. There are a number of them on the market now. Overall good gun.
Nutn, I was JUST thinking about this gun this afternoon before I knew this Vid was posted. I shot a .40 cal S&W SD for the first time and now i see this video by you. You sir have just made my day. ~TJ
Thanks for the review. I have a p-07 in 9mm and have not had a single feed problem yet after about 1000 rounds, though it's all been brass-cased ammo. As usual, the rest of your review is spot-on. It's comfortable to shoot with ergos similar to a 1911. Mags are painful to load and expensive. Overall, it's been a positive purchase for me.
Might be that tight spring then. Otherwise - some spray teflon just to ease the motion. This should dry up and detract said powder residue, if indeed it already has such problem, hence FTF. Not sure, I'm not a gunsmith. I deal more with aeroplanes, but this sh*t is fun!!!
About the failure to feed issues: I owned a CZ 2075 RAMIP in .40 s&w. I had the exact same issues. It would fail to feed at least once per magazine. I finally realized that the lips on the sides of the magazine were cutting into the case of the round causing it to hang up. It seems almost as if the top of CZ's .40 cal magazines is not wide enough. I purchased the P07 in 9mm afraid i would have the same problems but to my relief i have fired 800 rounds through it with zero failures. Great Gun!
I am so glad I picked up the Phantom instead of this p-07. The sp-01 is much sexier! Thanks again for the great advice and thorough reviews, and they are never too long.
I recently purchased a CZ P06 and had problems with the magazine dropping about every other round. I sent it in to CZ to be fixed. So far it has not had any other problems. I think CZ has yet to figure out how to make a good .40 pistol. BTW my CZ 85b in 9mm is great with no problems whatsoever.
I love my P07 duty! I just had to work out the kinks. Deburr and smooth out slide, extractor, and take a little off the slide stop so it doesn't touch the rounds. Runs flawlessly and super accurate!
Hey Nutn! Another great vid. Glad to see you with a myriad of pistols on the table. I was surprisedand not surprised to see a G17 Gen 4. Can't wait for that vid to air!!!! Thanks for all you do for the outdoors/firearms community. And for your service and sacrifice in the USAF.
The reason they call these midsize auto loaders like the Glock 19 and the p07 duty dates back a long time. When most automatic handguns consisted of a 4.5"-5" barrel and had large grips. People didn't use to conceal handguns and didn't really care about their size. The word compact means "smaller than" so they are compact. Just not by much. I can say though. A Glock 19 is easier to carry than a Glock 17. Then we get into the term "sub-compact" which is a difficult definition that basically means "smaller than smaller" that's where the Glock 26, PM9 and other such actual compact pistols fall into. I personaly usually call a Glock 19/23 a midsize though. If you say compact to someone, they usually assume 2 finger grip pocket rocket pistols.
You can take a file to the notch at the end of the slide stop to make it removable with a thumb. What you want to accomplish is changing the "U" where the retention springs rests into a ramp with a half-notch at the bottom so the spring can still do its job. Making a ramp as opposed to just filing it down straight will ensure that the massive tension of the spring will keep the slide stop in the gun even if it is somehow knocked loose.
Great video. I was looking at the CZ P-07 and the CZ 75B both in 9mm and you gave me a lot of good info if I decide to purchase. BTW, I had a PPQ .40 and it failed to go into battery as your P-07 .40 did "all the time." I got so frustrated with it that I traded it to my local gun dealer for a XDs 9mm. that gun has it's own issues but that is another story..
Huge sigh of relief when you said that no problems reported were reported on the 9mm version. I just bought one two days ago, extended barrel and factory night sights. It feels amazing in the hand and the trigger is top notch.
Just got this blue gun in a week ago for the CZ P07 Duty as I design custom concealment kydex holsters and even the blue gun makes you want to have one. The looks are amazing
I have the 9mm version of this, purch in Dec '11, approx 400 rds through it as of today, all cheap target FMJ loads, 100% reliable. No FTE, FTF, bang every time. Shoots low & left for me, need to adjust the windage. Crossbreed makes a good IWB Supertuck which I'm very happy with for occasional carry. Been very happy with it, paid in the high $300 range + FFL fee NIB. I can recommend it in 9mm.
I carry my p-07 off And on switching with glock 27 the width honestly is not bad at all! If your used to carrying glock it's a breeze.. The reliability is awesome!! And trigger is sick
Got a CZ P07 in OD Green, after the fix to frame bulge and mag-drop. I went for it cuz I wanted something more carriable over the CZ 75B which has always been solid for me. CZ compact and P01 just aren't easy to find around here. P07 vs G19 was my debate when purchasing, I went CZ cuz it's what I favored in my hand. Good gun.
I'm buying my first full size pistol because i have a Bersa thunder .380 which you gave a 10/10 on your review and also i have a 20 gauge Remington 870 express mag and i am buying the normal p-07 not the reduced length duty.
I found for my purposes that if you push the corner of the rubber base plate against the pin, it will push through about 1/4 inch and the you can just pinch with your fingers and pull out, no tools required.That's me on my P 01 but all the CZs are the same.
Just an observation: (The lady in the videos uses the "tea cup & saucer" grip when shooting a hand gun.) I've wanted a CZ of some sort for years. The fit my hand like no other handgun I've held. Another great review. Thanks.
CZ P-07 takedown tip: I have owned several CZ75 variant pistols and to field strip I eject the magazine, line up the notches, then use the back side of the bottom of the magazine (metal corner) to push the slide lock out. It works perfect as the slide locks have a recess dimple in the side you push on to get it out.
***** This is true and here is another tip. You can pull the slide back till it's touching the hammer in half cocked position and the lines on the slide and frame line up perfectly. Makes it very easy to keep the slide in position while flipping the firearm over to push out the slide lock. In addition , I read this somewhere.
I own the gun as well for almost a year now. Put more than a 1000 rounds through it. I love it. Previously I owned a 1911. I really was worried about how it would be to move to the duty, but it's an awesome gun, very accurate very light weight. I love it. so far, more than 1000 rounds and not even a hiccup (NO FTF/FTE) all smooth. BTW, I have the 9mm gun.
To those looking, both my son and I have the P07 in 9mm and love it. No problems at all. I have owned the Sig 226, 2022, many S&Ws, Rugers, Taurus, etc. This gun rocks. out shoots everything else. BTW I won't be boarding the Glock train. If you don't like holding it in your hand, then why hold it at all.
Nutn, I love your reviews... Like the mostly unbiased "exception to glocks" reviews. I wish you had done one on the 9mm Out of all my pistols USP, PPS, P239 my duty is my absolute favorite, probably because I shoot it well. Here's another " please review the 9mm" Comment.
Thanks formthe honest and complete review. I never see anything negative in gun magazine reviews and you know all new guns aren't perfect. It is so good to get an honest review with a year of testing to support it. Aside, if you don't like Nutn's political views, comment about it in the political videos and NOT HERE. Ranting throughout his entire project is childish, misguided, and not constructive.
I have never experienced a failure to go into battery malfunction with my 9mm CZ 75 P-07 Duty. I've only fired about 500 rounds so far but have been extremely satisfied with the 9mm to this date. Aside from the affordable price tag other selling points for me were the traction on the grip, overall light weight, plentiful sight radius, and crisp trigger were primary selling points. Down sides are expensive magazines and lack of holsters (aside from CZ holsters).
As always, you make perfect sense on this firearm. CZ tried to make the CZ-75 better by turning it into something it's not. I'll stick with my M&P 9mm, and if I'm looking for something a little smaller, I'll pick up a CZ-75 P-01… and if I'm looking for something a LOT smaller, I'll get a PF-9.
I would have gone with the P-06 over the P-07 in .40 s&w. P-06 has an alloy frame and only weighs .12 lbs (1.92 oz) more than the p-07. Likewise for 9mm P-01 over P-07 any day, the P-01 has an alloy frame and only weighs 0.01 lbs more than its polymer framed counterpart. The weight distribution and tactile sensation with a metal frame "feels" better to me. The P-01 is currently my favorite pistol and edc.
Held this gun at a gun show and just loved how it felt in my hand. I don't think I've ever found one that felt better. I've had all kinds on pistols, qualified with the M9, Glock-22 , M&P, Bersa 9UC and I just loved the P-07. I'd love to get one in 9mm ( 18 million dead Russians can't be wrong). Not very practical for CCW though. I opted for an M92A1 instead. I figure there will be plenty of M9 mags lying around when the bottom falls out.
field stripping is a lot easier than you would think. Use your magazine to push pin and pry from the other side. I NEVER had a jam problem with the gun. Maybe cleaning and adding some oil could help!
The P-09 magazines (19-round capacity) *do* fit the P-07 very nicely. When I'm shooting my P-07, I take my P-09 mags with me to get a few extra shoots between reloads. They extend below the grip a little (like about as much as the G21 mags do when used with the G30), but not much.
Nutn, I got my Christmas present, the TLR-4 (light and laser), installed on my .40 CZ P-07 Duty. The on/off/momentary switch has maybe 1/16" before it makes contact with the trigger guard. Love it. Picked up some Fiocchi 165gr JHP.
Sorry to hear about the unreliability in the .40 because the 9mm does not have feed problems at all, or really any other issues. I LOVE this gun. Shoots dead accurate out of the box and what's not to love about the threaded barrel. I agree accessories ARE a pain to find. I bought an Alabama Holster offside which works like a dream for concealed carry and it does not print at all, even with a thin T-shirt. For more video watch Hickcock45's review of this gun with suppressor- want!
I agree... TNP always does a great job with a combination of "real use, practical shooting, and table top review" They will always be haters, if you think you can do better, start your own channel... with a combination of Hickok and TNP, there should be plenty to get from these guys...
The P07 is becoming more popular and a updated 2014 model is available, I have the Duty in 9, no problems, yet, i'm not going to go out of my way to get the 2014 p07, I will do some manual break in just for posterity, but if an opportunity arises to review the improved version that would be cool, mags are still overpriced and fobus and blade tech have dedicated holsters as well as a variety of IWB crossbreed types, and hi-vis sights are available, and some cz custom shop sights. I carry OWB not really trying to hide it but it is covered or in an edc sling bag. works good, strap a light to it when you go nitey nite, and sleep well. semper fi and thanks for the review.
I have this in 9 and can load the mags just fine. I did trim the corners of the sight with a blade so it would not poke me. It is a plastic sight and trimmed just great. It is so accurate. I can put a full mag under a quarter at 10 yards. (Under controlled conditions:) But love this gun. BTW I push the pin out with the corner of the mag. After a few hundred rounds it loosens up. That little tidbit is in the "destructions"
Anything based of the 75 series guns, you are correct. This is a new wider body frame gun. Standard mags won't work in it. They are only compatible with themselves.
I have this gun in 9mm it works great havent had any problems with it the only thing i dont like is the price of extra mags they were 42 bucks other wise the price was good got it for 450 with free tactical light you should try it in 9mm think it will run good keep up the good videos!!
Nice i was going off their website.. as the site says *prices may vary from store to store*.. hopefully CZ figured out the slide rail problems, happy shooting to ya
It's a pretty well known fact that CZ had some issues with the .40, however the 9mm is a fantastic handgun. This thing will run just a tight a group as my P229 Scorpion. I'll recommend the 9mm to anyone that's looking for a economical sidearm.
CZs tend to not like the aluminum cased rounds as well as brass cases. Also, a lot of CZ guys say that CZs need a break in period of a least a few hundred rounds. A lot like a non-custom/low end 1911. The CZ guys tend to be tinkers like the 1911 guys as well. I think you are right about 40 cal, seems the CZs run better as 9mm until you get over 500 rounds though it at least. I did have one FTF with my CZ in 40, none with my 9. Polished up the feed ramp and breech face and have not had another.
Picked up my P-07 Duty (.40 cal) yesterday. First mod: swap that silly magazine release over to the right side for my left thumb. :) Man, this pistol feels awesome in my hands.
Nutn, I don't know about your state laws, but where I am, in Montana, I can purchase a gun from the gun counter at a 'BX'on an airforce base and not pay taxes. The P-07 Duty is available for purchase through the BX I live close to.
Nutn, I think you personally are having a subtle but noticable effect on handgun design. "Coincidentally" many of your preferences are becoming more and more common in modern designs, either via you directly or your viewers voting with their wallets. My guess would be the latter. Keep up the good work.
Today, I picked up the "Blackhawk Nylon Ambidextrous holster with mag pouch" at a sporting goods store. It is black and comfortable. I chose the size '05'. I like that it is ambi since I am left-handed when firing.
Nutn, as others have said you seriously need to revisit this pistol in the 2014 model. Pretty much everything you disliked they have fixed, rounded corners different hammer configuration with sights, low profile rounded sights, etc.
My, first gen, P07 9mm has had zero issues. I shoot nothing but the cheapest FMJ's at the range. Never had an issue. Maybe it is the 9mm doesn't have the issue like you said.
I just bought the p07 and I don't think its that hard to take apart. The cz manual says use the mag to push the pin, then I can pull it out with my hands no problem.
I have a P-07 Duty chambered in 9mm and I have never had even one hiccup in nearly 1000 rounds. Also my CZ-75b, also chambered in 9mm has never missed a beat either. That has nearly 2500 rounds through it with NEVER a misfire. As far as holsters the Bianchi 105 Medium minimal is a decent holster for this gun.
Yes, my family has gone through 4 CZ pistols, all were oily, even the poly ones. I wish you luck with your p07, but if you have issues with it CZ-USA will take care of you.
Nutnfancy, did you not have any magazine release issues? I got one for my brother in 9mm. The mag would sometimes drop free and sometimes not. CZ sent him a new gun. It does the same thing. I think the reason for this is the polymer walls of the grip are too thin and flex when gripped, preventing the mag from falling out. The 9mm version was rather notorious for this when it came out.
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I'm the biggest glock fan ever but the accuracy of this gun is amazing. Glad I made this purchase. Also this is my first hammer fire pistol.
CZ is one of the best kept secrets in firearms.
Time for a test/review on the new PO7 gen 2?
Indeed. That would be cool.
I won't keep a gun in my inventory that can't cycle factory ammo properly. There is just no reason to put up with that. Some guns need to be broken in, but after that it must run reliably otherwise it's a lemon. Thanks for yet another great review Nutn!!
I think CZ watched this video when they made the gen 2. I love my CZ P-07.
The po7 in 9 mm cycles flawless. Never had one failure. And cz offers plenty of site choices as well as nite sites I have them. There customer service is outstanding. Also a leather Tagua belt slide holster for a xd fits like a glove
I'd like to see an updated review of the 2014 version of the CZ P-07. They fixed a lot of things that Nutnfancy talked about and also added some stuff. Smoothed edges, user replaceable back straps, steel sights with luminova dots, reduced mag capacity by one round(easier to load now), new slide finish, new trigger(not as curved), front and rear slide serrations.
ive heard the 9mm version is fine but the 40 has or had issues. i dont know if that is true or still stands to this day. just food for thought.
l3arrett82 I had the 40, never had any problems
Justin Ledford i got the 9 on the 23rd. it was my bday gift.
CBRNe8310 Just Picked up a new P-07, haven`t got taken it to the range yet. The magazines are 15 rounds, but it came with 2 magazine extensions which look like they should increase them to 17. Haven`t loaded them up yet.
l3arrett82 Well isn't that special...
Three years down the road and I still love my CZ 75 P07 Duty (9mm). It is a very accurate soft shooter.
Very comfortable for EDC.
Hey +nutnfancy can you do a review on the new CZ P07 (2014 Model) in 9mm?
Damn bro, you read my mind.
Just a heads up, the USPc serpa holster does fit the p-07, retention functioning flawlessly for those interested in purchasing holsters. I've used this combo for IDPA extremely successfully. I'll add a model number for the correct version at a later date. Good to see this video finally up!
Would love to see an updated review with the new model of P07 in 9mm
From working at a large-retail store that sells this model (in 9mm), customers who hold the gun really like the way that this gun feels in hand. A lot of people are bugged by the low slide when they try to charge it, but their love for the ergonomics tends to outweigh this.
Also something interesting to note is that the safety can only be engaged when hammer is cocked. The safety does not decock the pistol either.
I have a .40 p07 that I've put over 2k of Win white box through,as well as other loads. No failures or problems. Got a IWB holster from Crossbreed tat is great, love this gun.
My guess to why you're having failures to go into battery is because in almost all over those scenes, it appears that you just can't handle the recoil. Many times it appeared that you were barely holding it, and it was flying around in your hands. Obviously, the bench shooting scene, it was jumping around terribly, and it didn't go into battery one of those times you showed. The guy at 9:20 was showing the least recoil, so let him or someone else test it out for a year and then see what happens.
There are not extended mags specific to the P07 Duty, But you can use the P09 mags which are 19rds. . . or you can get mag extensions from CZ or CZ Custom shop which will take your factory mags to 20rd mags.
I have the PO7 Duty in 9mm and absolutely love this gun. Extremely accurate out of the box. I'm a big guy with big hands and I love the grip. Was surprised to hear smaller hands like it as well. Having said that, all of Nutn's comments about sharp edges, sights, lack of accessories are all true. However, I've had no problems with the edges snagging on anything in real use. For concealed carry, I have an Alabama IWB kydex holster that I carry at 5 o'clock and I can get it out every time without an issue. The frame IS a little fat but it doesn't print at all carried in that position (BTW, Alabama holster makes an awesome holster that fits this gun like a glove but their customer service is beyond deplorable- 14 weeks to delivery and an obnoxious attitude to a single email status request doesn't cut it). The weight is very nice and the gun is well balanced. Magazine prices ARE ridiculous and CZ should do something about that. Still, my favorite carry and a GREAT gun to own.
I have one in 9mm the only problem I found is DO NOT CLEAN WITH HOPPS #9!!! I found that the cleaner will make the plastic soft. My mags stick now also I have a CXP4 and had to replace the buffer in that because of the cleaner messed it up. Other than that still shoots great and is a wicked little firearm.
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I have this in 9mm. It is my sidearm for 3 gun matches ( till I get a P-09). Mine has been 100% reliable and quite accurate. Mine came with a lighter trigger 7 lbs double 3 single. I tried my regular CZ-75 mags in it and they work. A little bit of play side to side as the width of the P-07 mages are a bit wider. They lock back after each round. Fed with 100% reliability with any and all bullet types and weights. they do stick out a bit longer as well. These in 9mm are great pistols!!
Maybe this has been pointed out already, but if you use a corner of the plastic magazine base to push out the takedown pin, you can usually push it in far enough to pull it out with your fingers from the other side.
Love your reviews! Thanks!
I, too, have a P-07. It works just fine for me at the range. The shorter barrel (compared to my 1911 and CZ SP-01 Tactical) is a little more challenging. I am totally satisfied with this pistol. I opted for an older model, mainly because mine has night sights, front and rear, an extended barrel (not threaded), and a trigger I just love (more of a hook shape compared to the 2014 model).
damn right mate. got the same model and love the shit out of it.
I haven't read through all five hundred or so comments or anything so this may have been mentioned, but the floor plate of the magazine works perfectly for taking the slide pin out. Also another mention for one in 9mm with zero problems
I bought one of these in 9mm. Love it to bits!
Funny story...I watched this review when it came out. A short time later I bought a P-07 in .40 Just re-watched the review 12/2015, and based on your final comments, I asked myself why I bought it in the first place! Oh well, mine primarily serves as home protection. It only has 50 to 100 rounds through it, with no malfunctions. I occasionally travel with it, as it's less expensive to replace.
I love this pistol. Cant say anything for the .40, but the 9mm is 100% reliable and deadly accurate.
Just a little something I found useful in disassembling CZs without tools: use one hand to prop back the slide by drawing back on the rear sight with an index finger, while preventing movement by using the beaver tail as leverage with that same hand's thumb, (squeezing the slide to the frame). Then use the side or under-side of an off-hand knuckle to press out the slide stop, (the underside of my thumb knuckle works well for me). The trigger guard can be grasped for pressing-hand leverage.
Hey nutn, the Czech Police uses the P01, not the 07. Just a friendly heads up.
Longtime subscriber, 1st time commentor. I really enjoyed the review/comments on the P-07. I'm a big CZ fan but don't own one yet. I've been debating whether to purchase the P-07 or a Glock in .40S&W. The debate is ongoing after this review. Another issue I have is magazine compatibility. P-07 magazines won't fit it any other CZ handgun. Glocks allow this across the board, compact to subcompact included. Hopefully CZ works out the kinks & makes a subcompact P-07. I'm in the market for both.
I had the 9mm and no problem with any factory rounds the whole time I had it. Everything else you said was correct on extra magazines, etc. I gave it to my brother as a gift since he needed a pistol and the PO-7 was my cheapest pistol.
I agree. Just felt like putting that info out there since quite a few pistols w/ hammers and safeties have the safety decock the weapon.
I have the P07 in 9mm. Pure perfection. I have only ran 250 rounds through it so far (50 of those being H.P) and 0 failures of any kind. That sucks that the .40 is so non- reliable. Bummer.. I was actually thinking of getting one in 40 as well; having been so happy with the 9mm. Thanks for the informative vid. You just saved me 450.00 and a whole lot of frustration. If anyone is looking for a DA/SA Midsized 9mm; check out the P07. That one DOES run- unlike its .40 sibling.
How about a P09 review?
I have the CZ 75 p07 duty and love it! Zero malfunctions. Cz manual recommends using the mag to push out the takedown pin. Field striping not bad once you get use to it. I highly recommend this pistol.
I have to agree with Angus, the P-07 in 9mm is superb. The only problem I had was the paint on the front sight chipped off after a couple of years, I went to a red fiber optic and now I like the P-07 more than ever. I've run it in all weather and never once had any kind of failure, I can't say that about my Glocks or my H&K USP. The ergonomics of this gun inspires confidence which becomes evident on your target, give the P-07 9mm a try and I'm sure you'll enjoy similar success.
Nice review. Thanks for the detail.
I bought a P-07 in the 9 mm variant because of the failure to feed issue in the .40 cal. I read a couple of articles that stated they had an issue with certain FMJ angles.
That being said, I have really enjoyed my 9 mm. Shoots very nice and accurate. First shot out of the box at 25 yards was dead center bulls eye.
I plan on buying an inside waistband holster that is molded for this gun. There are a number of them on the market now.
Overall good gun.
Nutn, I was JUST thinking about this gun this afternoon before I knew this Vid was posted. I shot a .40 cal S&W SD for the first time and now i see this video by you. You sir have just made my day.
~TJ
Thanks for the review. I have a p-07 in 9mm and have not had a single feed problem yet after about 1000 rounds, though it's all been brass-cased ammo. As usual, the rest of your review is spot-on. It's comfortable to shoot with ergos similar to a 1911. Mags are painful to load and expensive. Overall, it's been a positive purchase for me.
Might be that tight spring then. Otherwise - some spray teflon just to ease the motion. This should dry up and detract said powder residue, if indeed it already has such problem, hence FTF.
Not sure, I'm not a gunsmith. I deal more with aeroplanes, but this sh*t is fun!!!
About the failure to feed issues: I owned a CZ 2075 RAMIP in .40 s&w. I had the exact same issues. It would fail to feed at least once per magazine. I finally realized that the lips on the sides of the magazine were cutting into the case of the round causing it to hang up. It seems almost as if the top of CZ's .40 cal magazines is not wide enough. I purchased the P07 in 9mm afraid i would have the same problems but to my relief i have fired 800 rounds through it with zero failures. Great Gun!
I am so glad I picked up the Phantom instead of this p-07. The sp-01 is much sexier! Thanks again for the great advice and thorough reviews, and they are never too long.
p-07 does have 32 round extended clips available thru pro-mag. They are easier to load, but have issues with feeding when over 27 rounds
im loving the amount of videos out lately, just need time to watch them all
I have a CZ 75-SP01 Tactical in 9mm and have had not one mis feed or failure to return to battery, has been extremely reliable
I recently purchased a CZ P06 and had problems with the magazine dropping about every other round.
I sent it in to CZ to be fixed. So far it has not had any other problems. I think CZ has yet to figure out how to make a good .40 pistol. BTW my CZ 85b in 9mm is great with no problems whatsoever.
Your honesty and thought put into your reviews never disappoints me. Thank you for another great review nutnfancy.
I love my P07 duty! I just had to work out the kinks. Deburr and smooth out slide, extractor, and take a little off the slide stop so it doesn't touch the rounds. Runs flawlessly and super accurate!
Hey Nutn! Another great vid. Glad to see you with a myriad of pistols on the table. I was surprisedand not surprised to see a G17 Gen 4. Can't wait for that vid to air!!!! Thanks for all you do for the outdoors/firearms community. And for your service and sacrifice in the USAF.
The reason they call these midsize auto loaders like the Glock 19 and the p07 duty dates back a long time. When most automatic handguns consisted of a 4.5"-5" barrel and had large grips. People didn't use to conceal handguns and didn't really care about their size. The word compact means "smaller than" so they are compact. Just not by much. I can say though. A Glock 19 is easier to carry than a Glock 17. Then we get into the term "sub-compact" which is a difficult definition that basically means "smaller than smaller" that's where the Glock 26, PM9 and other such actual compact pistols fall into. I personaly usually call a Glock 19/23 a midsize though. If you say compact to someone, they usually assume 2 finger grip pocket rocket pistols.
You can take a file to the notch at the end of the slide stop to make it removable with a thumb. What you want to accomplish is changing the "U" where the retention springs rests into a ramp with a half-notch at the bottom so the spring can still do its job. Making a ramp as opposed to just filing it down straight will ensure that the massive tension of the spring will keep the slide stop in the gun even if it is somehow knocked loose.
Great video. I was looking at the CZ P-07 and the CZ 75B both in 9mm and you gave me a lot of good info if I decide to purchase. BTW, I had a PPQ .40 and it failed to go into battery as your P-07 .40 did "all the time." I got so frustrated with it that I traded it to my local gun dealer for a XDs 9mm. that gun has it's own issues but that is another story..
Huge sigh of relief when you said that no problems reported were reported on the 9mm version. I just bought one two days ago, extended barrel and factory night sights. It feels amazing in the hand and the trigger is top notch.
Just got this blue gun in a week ago for the CZ P07 Duty as I design custom concealment kydex holsters and even the blue gun makes you want to have one. The looks are amazing
I have the 9mm version of this, purch in Dec '11, approx 400 rds through it as of today, all cheap target FMJ loads, 100% reliable. No FTE, FTF, bang every time. Shoots low & left for me, need to adjust the windage. Crossbreed makes a good IWB Supertuck which I'm very happy with for occasional carry. Been very happy with it, paid in the high $300 range + FFL fee NIB. I can recommend it in 9mm.
NEED a P-09 review ASAP. You're the best!
I carry my p-07 off And on switching with glock 27 the width honestly is not bad at all! If your used to carrying glock it's a breeze.. The reliability is awesome!! And trigger is sick
Got a CZ P07 in OD Green, after the fix to frame bulge and mag-drop. I went for it cuz I wanted something more carriable over the CZ 75B which has always been solid for me. CZ compact and P01 just aren't easy to find around here. P07 vs G19 was my debate when purchasing, I went CZ cuz it's what I favored in my hand. Good gun.
I'm buying my first full size pistol because i have a Bersa thunder .380 which you gave a 10/10 on your review and also i have a 20 gauge Remington 870 express mag and i am buying the normal p-07 not the reduced length duty.
Nutn, great review. Thanks for the info on the reliabilty issue/slide coating.
I found for my purposes that if you push the corner of the rubber base plate against the pin, it will push through about 1/4 inch and the you can just pinch with your fingers and pull out, no tools required.That's me on my P 01 but all the CZs are the same.
Just an observation: (The lady in the videos uses the "tea cup & saucer" grip when shooting a hand gun.)
I've wanted a CZ of some sort for years. The fit my hand like no other handgun I've held. Another great review. Thanks.
CZ P-07 takedown tip: I have owned several CZ75 variant pistols and to field strip I eject the magazine, line up the notches, then use the back side of the bottom of the magazine (metal corner) to push the slide lock out. It works perfect as the slide locks have a recess dimple in the side you push on to get it out.
***** This is what the Manufactures tell you to do. So anybody who reads up on how to take down the gun from CZ's website will see this.
***** This is true and here is another tip. You can pull the slide back till it's touching the hammer in half cocked position and the lines on the slide and frame line up perfectly. Makes it very easy to keep the slide in position while flipping the firearm over to push out the slide lock. In addition , I read this somewhere.
I own the gun as well for almost a year now. Put more than a 1000 rounds through it. I love it. Previously I owned a 1911. I really was worried about how it would be to move to the duty, but it's an awesome gun, very accurate very light weight. I love it. so far, more than 1000 rounds and not even a hiccup (NO FTF/FTE) all smooth. BTW, I have the 9mm gun.
To those looking, both my son and I have the P07 in 9mm and love it. No problems at all. I have owned the Sig 226, 2022, many S&Ws, Rugers, Taurus, etc. This gun rocks. out shoots everything else. BTW I won't be boarding the Glock train. If you don't like holding it in your hand, then why hold it at all.
Nutn, I love your reviews...
Like the mostly unbiased "exception to glocks" reviews.
I wish you had done one on the 9mm
Out of all my pistols USP, PPS, P239 my duty is my absolute favorite, probably because I shoot it well.
Here's another
" please review the 9mm"
Comment.
I liked the video without even watching because I've been waiting since late October for this review, thanks!
CZ recommends using the base of the magazine to push out the slide stop when field stripping.
P-07 9mm take CZ75 mags, the larger P-09 does not because the CZ75 mags are too short to seat in the longer P-09 mag well.
Thanks formthe honest and complete review. I never see anything negative in gun magazine reviews and you know all new guns aren't perfect. It is so good to get an honest review with a year of testing to support it. Aside, if you don't like Nutn's political views, comment about it in the political videos and NOT HERE. Ranting throughout his entire project is childish, misguided, and not constructive.
Love your vids nutn! You do a fantastic job!
I have never experienced a failure to go into battery malfunction with my 9mm CZ 75 P-07 Duty. I've only fired about 500 rounds so far but have been extremely satisfied with the 9mm to this date. Aside from the affordable price tag other selling points for me were the traction on the grip, overall light weight, plentiful sight radius, and crisp trigger were primary selling points. Down sides are expensive magazines and lack of holsters (aside from CZ holsters).
As always, you make perfect sense on this firearm. CZ tried to make the CZ-75 better by turning it into something it's not. I'll stick with my M&P 9mm, and if I'm looking for something a little smaller, I'll pick up a CZ-75 P-01… and if I'm looking for something a LOT smaller, I'll get a PF-9.
I would have gone with the P-06 over the P-07 in .40 s&w. P-06 has an alloy frame and only weighs .12 lbs (1.92 oz) more than the p-07. Likewise for 9mm P-01 over P-07 any day, the P-01 has an alloy frame and only weighs 0.01 lbs more than its polymer framed counterpart. The weight distribution and tactile sensation with a metal frame "feels" better to me. The P-01 is currently my favorite pistol and edc.
Held this gun at a gun show and just loved how it felt in my hand. I don't think I've ever found one that felt better. I've had all kinds on pistols, qualified with the M9, Glock-22 , M&P, Bersa 9UC and I just loved the P-07. I'd love to get one in 9mm ( 18 million dead Russians can't be wrong). Not very practical for CCW though. I opted for an M92A1 instead. I figure there will be plenty of M9 mags lying around when the bottom falls out.
Agree! for what it is I.E. full sized .45 service pistol, it truly is an amazing CZ variant.
field stripping is a lot easier than you would think. Use your magazine to push pin and pry from the other side. I NEVER had a jam problem with the gun. Maybe cleaning and adding some oil could help!
i have it in 9, great gun, comfortable, super reliable, pretty balanced, trigger is really smooth.
The P-09 magazines (19-round capacity) *do* fit the P-07 very nicely. When I'm shooting my P-07, I take my P-09 mags with me to get a few extra shoots between reloads. They extend below the grip a little (like about as much as the G21 mags do when used with the G30), but not much.
Nutn, I got my Christmas present, the TLR-4 (light and laser), installed on my .40 CZ P-07 Duty. The on/off/momentary switch has maybe 1/16" before it makes contact with the trigger guard. Love it. Picked up some Fiocchi 165gr JHP.
Sorry to hear about the unreliability in the .40 because the 9mm does not have feed problems at all, or really any other issues. I LOVE this gun. Shoots dead accurate out of the box and what's not to love about the threaded barrel. I agree accessories ARE a pain to find. I bought an Alabama Holster offside which works like a dream for concealed carry and it does not print at all, even with a thin T-shirt. For more video watch Hickcock45's review of this gun with suppressor- want!
I agree... TNP always does a great job with a combination of "real use, practical shooting, and table top review" They will always be haters, if you think you can do better, start your own channel... with a combination of Hickok and TNP, there should be plenty to get from these guys...
The P07 is becoming more popular and a updated 2014 model is available, I have the Duty in 9, no problems, yet, i'm not going to go out of my way to get the 2014 p07, I will do some manual break in just for posterity, but if an opportunity arises to review the improved version that would be cool, mags are still overpriced and fobus and blade tech have dedicated holsters as well as a variety of IWB crossbreed types, and hi-vis sights are available, and some cz custom shop sights. I carry OWB not really trying to hide it but it is covered or in an edc sling bag. works good, strap a light to it when you go nitey nite, and sleep well. semper fi and thanks for the review.
I have this in 9 and can load the mags just fine. I did trim the corners of the sight with a blade so it would not poke me. It is a plastic sight and trimmed just great. It is so accurate. I can put a full mag under a quarter at 10 yards. (Under controlled conditions:) But love this gun. BTW I push the pin out with the corner of the mag. After a few hundred rounds it loosens up. That little tidbit is in the "destructions"
Have had no problems with my P-07 Duty in 9mm.
Anything based of the 75 series guns, you are correct. This is a new wider body frame gun. Standard mags won't work in it. They are only compatible with themselves.
I have this gun in 9mm it works great havent had any problems with it the only thing i dont like is the price of extra mags they were 42 bucks other wise the price was good got it for 450 with free tactical light you should try it in 9mm think it will run good keep up the good videos!!
Your review made me want to buy the Gun, until I saw the problems it was having with the slide. Your reviews rock dude!
Nice i was going off their website.. as the site says *prices may vary from store to store*..
hopefully CZ figured out the slide rail problems, happy shooting to ya
It's a pretty well known fact that CZ had some issues with the .40, however the 9mm is a fantastic handgun. This thing will run just a tight a group as my P229 Scorpion. I'll recommend the 9mm to anyone that's looking for a economical sidearm.
CZs tend to not like the aluminum cased rounds as well as brass cases. Also, a lot of CZ guys say that CZs need a break in period of a least a few hundred rounds. A lot like a non-custom/low end 1911. The CZ guys tend to be tinkers like the 1911 guys as well.
I think you are right about 40 cal, seems the CZs run better as 9mm until you get over 500 rounds though it at least. I did have one FTF with my CZ in 40, none with my 9. Polished up the feed ramp and breech face and have not had another.
Picked up my P-07 Duty (.40 cal) yesterday. First mod: swap that silly magazine release over to the right side for my left thumb. :) Man, this pistol feels awesome in my hands.
Nutn, I don't know about your state laws, but where I am, in Montana, I can purchase a gun from the gun counter at a 'BX'on an airforce base and not pay taxes. The P-07 Duty is available for purchase through the BX I live close to.
Nutn, I think you personally are having a subtle but noticable effect on handgun design. "Coincidentally" many of your preferences are becoming more and more common in modern designs, either via you directly or your viewers voting with their wallets. My guess would be the latter. Keep up the good work.
Today, I picked up the "Blackhawk Nylon Ambidextrous holster with mag pouch" at a sporting goods store. It is black and comfortable. I chose the size '05'. I like that it is ambi since I am left-handed when firing.
I've got the new model P07 and its a great gun.
Nutn, as others have said you seriously need to revisit this pistol in the 2014 model. Pretty much everything you disliked they have fixed, rounded corners different hammer configuration with sights, low profile rounded sights, etc.
My, first gen, P07 9mm has had zero issues. I shoot nothing but the cheapest FMJ's at the range. Never had an issue. Maybe it is the 9mm doesn't have the issue like you said.
I love the "Allie, shut up!" in the middle xD Great review!
I just bought the p07 and I don't think its that hard to take apart. The cz manual says use the mag to push the pin, then I can pull it out with my hands no problem.
I have a P-07 Duty chambered in 9mm and I have never had even one hiccup in nearly 1000 rounds. Also my CZ-75b, also chambered in 9mm has never missed a beat either. That has nearly 2500 rounds through it with NEVER a misfire. As far as holsters the Bianchi 105 Medium minimal is a decent holster for this gun.
Yes, my family has gone through 4 CZ pistols, all were oily, even the poly ones. I wish you luck with your p07, but if you have issues with it CZ-USA will take care of you.
Nutnfancy, did you not have any magazine release issues? I got one for my brother in 9mm. The mag would sometimes drop free and sometimes not. CZ sent him a new gun. It does the same thing. I think the reason for this is the polymer walls of the grip are too thin and flex when gripped, preventing the mag from falling out. The 9mm version was rather notorious for this when it came out.