great video. only two things I would do differently, would be to fill the "gap" which is the space between the back of bullet and powder itself, with a, wad, cream of wheat, or corn meal. try keeping a compression on black powders. Second thing I do, would be, try expanding the case mouth just a little Pryor to seating the bullet. And remember, too much case lube, can actually wrinkle your brass. takes just a tab. your video makes me want one of these again, takeing it slow, and enjoying the reloading process.
I started out this way over 46 years ago. If you add a simple balance beam ot electronic powder scale you can tailor your loads using modern smokless powder, just use a good reloading manual. As was mentioned before slightly flare those case mouths, just enough so that the bullet can barely enter the case then load the bullet....crimp and done. Just don't over due that flare, it will over work the brass case.
Incredible video! I love loading 45 colt. Especially simpler ways. Plus black powder 45 colt is almost therapeutic to shoot at the range. Thanks for sharing. I do some 45 colt ballistics tests and ammo reviews on my channel. I even mess around with roundball 45 colt from my open top conversions. Just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks Jack, nice video! I like these Lee Loaders because they help me to take my time and do each bullet right. Very relaxing way to spend a few hours. I never have had blow up problems like I hear happen. Must be lucky or something.
Man, this brings back memories. I started in handloading 40 years ago with a Lee set like yours in .38 special. One day I was seating a primer with that rod, and the primer went off shooting the rod right out of my hand. I'm also reminded of how much more convenient it was when I went to a simple single stage press. No hammering is good! Many thanks.
We started out the same way but loaded up the 30-06 and when I primed the same way, it to went off. I had a dark ring on my hand, the rod went straight up and landed in a open container of powder.
Nice work! Very informative. I have wanted to start reloading but the initial cost was too steep. After watching your video I looked up the Lee classic reloader for 45 colt. The price is right and your demonstration convinced me I can do it. Thank you.
I hear you are supposed to use black powder lube on your bullet, and that they actually make black powder bullets with extra deep channels for the lube to sit in. Apparently without the extra black powder lube a few shots bakes crud into the rifling of your barrel that is very hard to clean out. Very good info on how to use a simple single casing loading tool though!
First- Always wear a glove on your left hand while setting the primer (sometimes the primer goes off and it can burn your hand), Second- Flare the case mouth before seating your bullet (you can easily destroy the mouth of the case if you don't!), Third -When sizing the case, turn the head down on the hard surface and tap the die using that soft hammer. this will prevent mutilated cases) I learned these things by experience using the Classic Lee Loader
My "anvil" is a 6 inch by 1 inch thick piece of steel. I set it on a piece of dense foam rubber, then cover the steel with a piece of leather. It keeps down the noise greatly. I started using this method back in the early 70s in my barracks to keep from disturbing everyone else. I use Trailboss powder in my 45 Uberti. It measures easily and doesn't build up excessively high pressures.
Looks good to me. I just started this year also. 38special and 45 colt. Great way to spend a rainy day! Will eventually try black powder loads. Good luck and enjoy. BTW I use chap stick as a case lube when resizing.
Glad you love it I got hooked too I jumped right in with Lyman’s brass smith 8 turret press kit never reloaded before but glad I got what I got I’ve done 400 rounds of 30 30 so far picked up a 1851 colt navy in 44 and am now thinking of 1860 colt army with a conversion cylinder and the will start reloading black powder like you get the Lyman gear or something similar it’s an investment for the rest of your life you will be waking up at 2am and going to the reloading bench like me
JackWould work better with a lead bullet properly lubed for black or black substitute. Without lube terrible fouling after one or two shots. Also make sure no air gap between powder and bottom of bullet.
I reload .45 Colt this way using Unique, Trail Boss, or Pyrodex. Press your primers in with an arbor press. No pops. Just learned to reload .45 acp with Unique, a little trickier to do. Case mouth tension has to be just right or bullet setback can happen, increasing pressure.
Deburr the case neck, will ease bullet seat and let the crimp collapse a little more. Fingernail polish will seal the primer from the outside. Nice video, thanks a lot!
Great video, but I have 2 questions. 1) do you need a flaring tool before seating the bullet, and 2) is this loader suitable for lever action rifles?? Some say it is not. Thanks
He forgot the flaring tool. He would not need to hit it that hard if he had used the flaring tool. It`s all good in the cowboy world. We are kind to all.Have a great day.
Wow I never knew it was just this easy… I always thought you needed like a bunch of tools and a special machine to do this but I guess that’s just for the fancy pants guys haha 😂
Is there no provision with your loader for expanding/belling the case mouth prior to bullet seating? Not sure, but I thought I heard you say the bullet was 250 "grams" -- it's actually "grains".
A new Lee Classic Loader for 45 Colt should come with a case lip flaring tool to use before seating the bullet but, I didn't see it being used in the video.
Was there a step missed to flair the cartridge mouth before the powder charge and setting the bullet? The short rod maybe??? It would have made it easier to start the bullet into the top of the cartridge, I think.🤔
Hope you can help me. I purchased a Lee Loader (.45 Colt) and upon opening it, I noticed the Main Body is stamped "LEE - 45 ACP - D2" The kit came with the flaring tool which indicates it is for the 45 colt. Did I receive the wrong Main Body in the kit?
Good job,just ordered the Lee precision 90254 Classic loader 9mm luger,going to try my hand at this,never reloaded a bullet in my life.Now to figure out which powder,which bullet,which primer????? I would like to cast my own bullets one day also,that's probably a whole nother story in this reloading scheme of things.
It seemed that when you were seating the bullet there were several taps that didn't move the bullet. Then the bullet dropped quickly into place. I wonder if you would find it easier if you flared the mouth of the casing first. I think the Lee classic loader for revolver calibers should have a mouth flaring tool included. Mine for .38 sp does.
.45 colt should not have the case flared.If the case is supposed to be flared prior to bullet insertion Lee includes a flaring tool in the classic loader kit.
Another pretty good video. My kit never came with a flaring tool, so I just use an inverted bullet (which is designated as my flaring tool and never loaded into a casing). I then use a bullet puller to dislodge the bullet. Voila, the casing is ready to accept a new bullet. :)
how well does it seat on the powder? everyone knows (that shoots BP) there isn't suppose to be space or its in effect, a pipe bomb. what's used as fill?
That Guy when using Black powder or subs u have to make sure it fills the case up to where the bullet seats. some folks use felt wads to take up space. Nothing like shooting bp out of a 1873 pattern revovler!!
On the 45 colt the powder can fill the entire case or you can use a fill or a wad, but it’s perfectly fine to use 35-40 grains of 3f and depending on bullet weight one of those will fill the whole case with powder.
35gr of BP is a good cowboy load. Depends on what gun your using. If it's for a BP revolver you need to use a cardboard and a lubed wad and another wad on top four your lubed one. Like a sandwich. If it's for a modern 45 your good with just the cased bullet. ALWAYS REMEMBER: A BP load should never have an air gap. Your not using true black powder so I'm not sure but a gap in a BP load = pipe bomb. It's an explosive and not a propellant! That's all they had until 1873. That's when smokeless powder was introduced. Always be careful. I would finish filling your case with cream of wheat or a product called Pufflon. Compress BP. Hate to see ya get hurt.
You need a black powder type lube for *any* revolver used with black powder loads. Doesn't need to be fancy -- a lube sandwich is good, but a cast bullet with a good size lube groove filled with 50:50 mix of lard and beeswax will work pretty well. Even smearing some lube in the open end of the chambers, like with a cap and ball revolver, will work (and will work with jacketed bullets like those in this video). The lube prevents leading and keeps the fouling soft. Same applies with Pyrodex -- it's got sulfur in it, so you need natural lube, and you certainly need lube to keep the fouling manageable. Also same rule for air space -- air space in the load is bad. Won't always cause explosion, but it's a bad habit to get into.
Well if you do things right, you can reload for as cheap as it costs to get/make powder and new primers/ingredients for diy priming compound.. Melt down lead to Mould your own bullets, buy or make gunpowder, get new/or recycled primers, and a few hours to kill, you can stock up on a pretty supply of full power Black Powder cartridges for a fraction of the cost/time of working to buy new underpowered factory 'cowboy" plinkers... ^.-.^
There are instructions with loads in the kit using various powders. There also is a Lee dipper included if your loading by volume which for all the powders listed is .7cc. There are no loads listed for BP or BP substitutes. You will need a reloading manual for BP for that. Lyman makes an excellent BP reloading manual. Spend the few dollars on a manual. Use only published data when reloading. Not something someone posted online.
Depends on how you get your gun powder, primers and bullets really. If you buy new premade bullets, gun powder, and primers, you could cut your ammo costs in half or more. If you make your own bullets from lead/lead-alloy could cut that price in half or more again. If you make your own gunpowder, even more savings. Recycle old primer cups and anvils and make your own priming compound from base ingredients, you can shave your cost to near zero. You can spend several days moulding bullets, mixing up gunpowder and primers (carefully on that last part) and reload hundreds if not thousands of your own full power Cowboy cartridges. Or, you can spend time working a job, and spend your hard earned money on a fraction of factory made, underpowered 'cowboy action" plinkers.. You can do it yourself and save loads of dosh, all it takes is time, a little Cowboy Chemistry and a willingness to do it yourself. ^.-.^
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I really enjoy my Lee loaders in 45 acp, 9 km and 38 special. Its relaxing to load this way.
Great video. Thanks for not jabbering for an hour like so many other youtubers and getting down to business. Subscribed
SPIRITUAL AWAKENINGS thank you I left out a few things ... sorry ... I also hate when people think they have to talk forever ... have a great day !!
thanks jack you couldn’t have done a better job.. it was straight and to the point .nuf said 🤙🏻
First time viewing your posts, thank you. 45 Colt is my favorite.
and thank you i just got the 45 colt loader ..I have used the 35 remington
great video. only two things I would do differently, would be to fill the "gap" which is the space between the back of bullet and powder itself, with a, wad, cream of wheat, or corn meal. try keeping a compression on black powders. Second thing I do, would be, try expanding the case mouth just a little Pryor to seating the bullet. And remember, too much case lube, can actually wrinkle your brass. takes just a tab. your video makes me want one of these again, takeing it slow, and enjoying the reloading process.
I started out this way over 46 years ago.
If you add a simple balance beam ot electronic powder scale you can tailor your loads using modern smokless powder, just use a good reloading manual.
As was mentioned before slightly flare those case mouths, just enough so that the bullet can barely enter the case then load the bullet....crimp and done. Just don't over due that flare, it will over work the brass case.
great video no look at me talk for half the video u got straight to it and taught us something quick and fast well done sir
Incredible video! I love loading 45 colt. Especially simpler ways. Plus black powder 45 colt is almost therapeutic to shoot at the range. Thanks for sharing. I do some 45 colt ballistics tests and ammo reviews on my channel. I even mess around with roundball 45 colt from my open top conversions. Just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks Jack, nice video! I like these Lee Loaders because they help me to take my time and do each bullet right. Very relaxing way to spend a few hours. I never have had blow up problems like I hear happen. Must be lucky or something.
My first was in 303 british never had a problem, great teaching tool.
Great video, Jack. Thanks for taking the time.
Man, this brings back memories. I started in handloading 40 years ago with a Lee set like yours in .38 special. One day I was seating a primer with that rod, and the primer went off shooting the rod right out of my hand. I'm also reminded of how much more convenient it was when I went to a simple single stage press. No hammering is good! Many thanks.
We started out the same way but loaded up the 30-06 and when I primed the same way, it to went off. I had a dark ring on my hand, the rod went straight up and landed in a open container of powder.
Like i said i would buy a Lee challenger press kit for a 130 bucks and be done! Fuk loosing a hand!
I use the reloader now n 38 special. I haven’t had a primer go off but I do wear a glove on my left hand during the priming step
Good instruction video, well done.
Best video on the Lee I've seen yet no reason to search further
Nice work! Very informative. I have wanted to start reloading but the initial cost was too steep. After watching your video I looked up the Lee classic reloader for 45 colt. The price is right and your demonstration convinced me I can do it. Thank you.
You did a great job right to the point easy to watch thank you sir
Great vid, thanks!!!
Thanks for the straight skinny and no frill info. Awesome work sir.
I have the same Lee loader. Today I will doing it for the first time. Thank you.
I hear you are supposed to use black powder lube on your bullet, and that they actually make black powder bullets with extra deep channels for the lube to sit in. Apparently without the extra black powder lube a few shots bakes crud into the rifling of your barrel that is very hard to clean out. Very good info on how to use a simple single casing loading tool though!
Great video, I just got a 45colt and I’ll be buying one of these
Thank you very much great video ! I just bought a 1873 Colt clone. Been wanting to start reloading my own bullets. 😊
First- Always wear a glove on your left hand while setting the primer (sometimes the primer goes off and it can burn your hand), Second- Flare the case mouth before seating your bullet (you can easily destroy the mouth of the case if you don't!), Third -When sizing the case, turn the head down on the hard surface and tap the die using that soft hammer. this will prevent mutilated cases) I learned these things by experience using the Classic Lee Loader
My "anvil" is a 6 inch by 1 inch thick piece of steel. I set it on a piece of dense foam rubber, then cover the steel with a piece of leather. It keeps down the noise greatly. I started using this method back in the early 70s in my barracks to keep from disturbing everyone else. I use Trailboss powder in my 45 Uberti. It measures easily and doesn't build up excessively high pressures.
Looks good to me. I just started this year also. 38special and 45 colt. Great way to spend a rainy day! Will eventually try black powder loads. Good luck and enjoy. BTW I use chap stick as a case lube when resizing.
Glad you love it I got hooked too I jumped right in with Lyman’s brass smith 8 turret press kit never reloaded before but glad I got what I got I’ve done 400 rounds of 30 30 so far picked up a 1851 colt navy in 44 and am now thinking of 1860 colt army with a conversion cylinder and the will start reloading black powder like you get the Lyman gear or something similar it’s an investment for the rest of your life you will be waking up at 2am and going to the reloading bench like me
Never thought of chap stik good idea thanks for the tip ... Be safe and enjoy reloading !!
Use the flaring tool in kit to bevel the cartridge before adding your powder, helps the bullet to start wen your seating it.
JackWould work better with a lead bullet properly lubed for black or black substitute. Without lube terrible fouling after one or two shots. Also make sure no air gap between powder and bottom of bullet.
I reload .45 Colt this way using Unique, Trail Boss, or Pyrodex. Press your primers in with an arbor press. No pops. Just learned to reload .45 acp with Unique, a little trickier to do. Case mouth tension has to be just right or bullet setback can happen, increasing pressure.
Deburr the case neck, will ease bullet seat and let the crimp collapse a little more. Fingernail polish will seal the primer from the outside. Nice video, thanks a lot!
Great video, but I have 2 questions. 1) do you need a flaring tool before seating the bullet, and 2) is this loader suitable for lever action rifles?? Some say it is not. Thanks
He forgot the flaring tool. He would not need to hit it that hard if he had used the flaring tool. It`s all good in the cowboy world. We are kind to all.Have a great day.
Good video, Jack. Thanks for sharing.
Wow I never knew it was just this easy… I always thought you needed like a bunch of tools and a special machine to do this but I guess that’s just for the fancy pants guys haha 😂
Hi Jerry... It depends on the size of bullet that you use ... If you need to fill the air gap I use cream of wheat.
Thank you my man 👍
I didn't see any groove lube go in but with a crimp you may not need it how did they fire?
you forgot to flair your brass
Hey Jack Here a tip keep your hand up top of the rod not over the cylinder had one or two go off scares the crap out of you . LOL Have fun
I would have liked to see the spent primer being removed. Pretty good demo for 45 colt though.
Enjoyed the video.
Good video, Jack.
Is there no provision with your loader for expanding/belling the case mouth prior to bullet seating?
Not sure, but I thought I heard you say the bullet was 250 "grams" -- it's actually "grains".
A new Lee Classic Loader for 45 Colt should come with a case lip flaring tool to use before seating the bullet but, I didn't see it being used in the video.
you ever hit it too hard seating a primer? I have. it's funny but ONLY after it's over. lol.
what type of primers do u use for black powder the large cci 300? jw
That’s pretty cool. Hammering a primer in makes me cringe a bit though 🤣🤣🤣
If you "Love" hand loading, with all of the hammering, you'd REALLY LOVE a single stage press. Be safe & take care.
Was there a step missed to flair the cartridge mouth before the powder charge and setting the bullet? The short rod maybe??? It would have made it easier to start the bullet into the top of the cartridge, I think.🤔
Hope you can help me.
I purchased a Lee Loader (.45 Colt) and upon opening it, I noticed the Main Body is stamped "LEE - 45 ACP - D2"
The kit came with the flaring tool which indicates it is for the 45 colt.
Did I receive the wrong Main Body in the kit?
Thanks for the video! But you didn’t show flare part before bullet insert.
I would put a piece of 2x4 (or thick leather, rubber, or cardboard) under the die so the anvil won't bang it around.
Good job,just ordered the Lee precision 90254 Classic loader 9mm luger,going to try my hand at this,never reloaded a bullet in my life.Now to figure out which powder,which bullet,which primer????? I would like to cast my own bullets one day also,that's probably a whole nother story in this reloading scheme of things.
How did you set the bullet seat measurement?
I have a question that you might be able to help me with
It seemed that when you were seating the bullet there were several taps that didn't move the bullet. Then the bullet dropped quickly into place. I wonder if you would find it easier if you flared the mouth of the casing first. I think the Lee classic loader for revolver calibers should have a mouth flaring tool included. Mine for .38 sp does.
.45 colt should not have the case flared.If the case is supposed to be flared prior to bullet insertion Lee includes a flaring tool in the classic loader kit.
They do? Where the heck was mine?
James Gourlie This guy demonstrates its use. On .45 Colt, none the less!
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Another pretty good video. My kit never came with a flaring tool, so I just use an inverted bullet (which is designated as my flaring tool and never loaded into a casing). I then use a bullet puller to dislodge the bullet. Voila, the casing is ready to accept a new bullet. :)
how well does it seat on the powder? everyone knows (that shoots BP) there isn't suppose to be space or its in effect, a pipe bomb. what's used as fill?
he is not using real black powder.
jerry miller that doesnt mean anything bud lolz subs still act as the real thing. Dont give ppl false info man or ull get that person hurt.
Cory, triple 7 is not supposed to be compressed.
That Guy when using Black powder or subs u have to make sure it fills the case up to where the bullet seats. some folks use felt wads to take up space. Nothing like shooting bp out of a 1873 pattern revovler!!
On the 45 colt the powder can fill the entire case or you can use a fill or a wad, but it’s perfectly fine to use 35-40 grains of 3f and depending on bullet weight one of those will fill the whole case with powder.
I’ve got the new vaquero 45colt, my ? Is that a pretty standard load for shooting SASS
If I could find some primers..........??????
great video
35gr of BP is a good cowboy load. Depends on what gun your using. If it's for a BP revolver you need to use a cardboard and a lubed wad and another wad on top four your lubed one. Like a sandwich. If it's for a modern 45 your good with just the cased bullet. ALWAYS REMEMBER: A BP load should never have an air gap. Your not using true black powder so I'm not sure but a gap in a BP load = pipe bomb. It's an explosive and not a propellant! That's all they had until 1873. That's when smokeless powder was introduced. Always be careful. I would finish filling your case with cream of wheat or a product called Pufflon. Compress BP. Hate to see ya get hurt.
You need a black powder type lube for *any* revolver used with black powder loads. Doesn't need to be fancy -- a lube sandwich is good, but a cast bullet with a good size lube groove filled with 50:50 mix of lard and beeswax will work pretty well. Even smearing some lube in the open end of the chambers, like with a cap and ball revolver, will work (and will work with jacketed bullets like those in this video). The lube prevents leading and keeps the fouling soft. Same applies with Pyrodex -- it's got sulfur in it, so you need natural lube, and you certainly need lube to keep the fouling manageable. Also same rule for air space -- air space in the load is bad. Won't always cause explosion, but it's a bad habit to get into.
Sharps paper cartridge rifle. NO compression of the powder yet they don't blow up! Care to explain?
thanks for the video
That is a neat kit from Lee. Thanks for making the video. Any experience with the Lyman 310 tool?
I would ask if you can come up with how much are you saving on reloading versus just buying 50 rounds at the cheapest price if possible, Thanks
Well if you do things right, you can reload for as cheap as it costs to get/make powder and new primers/ingredients for diy priming compound..
Melt down lead to Mould your own bullets, buy or make gunpowder, get new/or recycled primers, and a few hours to kill, you can stock up on a pretty supply of full power Black Powder cartridges for a fraction of the cost/time of working to buy new underpowered factory 'cowboy" plinkers... ^.-.^
Do the instructions explain how much powder to use for different brands of powder? Does the black powder make a lot of smoke? I like smoke!
There are instructions with loads in the kit using various powders. There also is a Lee dipper included if your loading by volume which for all the powders listed is .7cc. There are no loads listed for BP or BP substitutes. You will need a reloading manual for BP for that. Lyman makes an excellent BP reloading manual. Spend the few dollars on a manual. Use only published data when reloading. Not something someone posted online.
Hi Jack, fantastic video!! Just wondering, could the primer go off with too many taps? With or without the bullet? Thanks!
I used to worry about that but its never happened
Other ? Is how much per bullet are you averaging y reloading
Depends on how you get your gun powder, primers and bullets really.
If you buy new premade bullets, gun powder, and primers, you could cut your ammo costs in half or more.
If you make your own bullets from lead/lead-alloy could cut that price in half or more again.
If you make your own gunpowder, even more savings.
Recycle old primer cups and anvils and make your own priming compound from base ingredients, you can shave your cost to near zero.
You can spend several days moulding bullets, mixing up gunpowder and primers (carefully on that last part) and reload hundreds if not thousands of your own full power Cowboy cartridges.
Or, you can spend time working a job, and spend your hard earned money on a fraction of factory made, underpowered 'cowboy action" plinkers..
You can do it yourself and save loads of dosh, all it takes is time, a little Cowboy Chemistry and a willingness to do it yourself. ^.-.^
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon And it’s a whole lot of satisfaction and fun.
3:49 250 GRAM bullet? That's 3,858 grains !
Yeah. And it’s a jacketed bullet, not plated.
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Do yourself a favor and get a Lee challenger press kit ! It will make ur life easier! 130 bucks that's it! You'll thank me!
You forgot to open the case mouth
"Grain" not "gram"
4 hrs later i have 100 rnds to shoot.
Have you ever used this to load 45 Schofield,