I know the recent uploads this last month have been a bit lack luster, so I’ve decided to spend the time to make a nice lengthy compilation! Which moment was the most iconic to you? Next video will likely be “underrated players part 2”!
The Mutiny is so underrated.. it literally only got better with each episode, with Candice going to exile every single time thereafter, and the Aitu 4 becoming the final 4... just so poetic
Cerie will go down as one of the best players of Survivor ever. She was so good the only reason why she got eliminated was because the game itself was faulty with too many idols at play. A true queen.
Cirie was great, but it’s on her and not the game that she lost. I’ll give you an example. In Micronesia at the final three they had to deal with the final two twist. Some might say, well, if she had gone to the final tribal she might have been able to pull it off. But she didn’t. And it wasn’t because of the game. It was because Amanda used a superior strategy in the final immunity challenge. By switching her grip back and forth as opposed to using the same grip every time, she was able to out last Cirie. In Game Changers, you can say that the game was faulty because there were too many idols and advantages, but I don’t agree. In fact, I think the way Sarah obtained and used those was a testament to how good she was. And, if that’s the case, Cirie’s lack of advantages can’t be a testament to how bad the game was in that season. Cirie didn’t get the upper hand in the game but that’s on her. Everyone else did. I think that she’s possibly the greatest non-winner in the show’s history, but she doesn’t have a place amongst the actual greats in my opinion. Because, at the end of the day, the people that won played the best game in their season. Even if they were goats. Because the game isn’t about being a mastermind. It’s about winning. And if you found yourself with that million dollar check in your hand, you outplayed everyone. You made it to the end with the right people sitting next to you and the right people on the jury. So, in a world where there are 38 people that played more effective games than Cirie, I can’t in good faith rank her over a single one of them.
Bro, Nah... it’s all because the stupid over complication and twist in the game. It’s stupid. If players knew it was a final two, I promise you cirie would’ve split up Amanda and parv
@@StacheBigote Wtf You think players like Fabio from survivor Nicaragua or Ben from Heroes Vs Healers Vs Hustlets are better Cirie. Survivor is a very complicated game because there is only so much that is in a players control.With so many twists in modern seasons there's a lot of luck involved. I believe that if you find yourself with the million dollar check you played a hell of a good game but not neccesarily the best or the most deserving one. Idk much about Cirie's first time playing but every other time Cirie has had extremely bad luck and things that went wrong were out of her contol. Cirie is not only the best non winning survivor player but definetly among the best survivor players.
I adore how much Jeff loves Cirie. It literally does feel lke its an honor to be inher mere presence. When she played Celebrity Wheel of Fortune with Survivor players from all seasons, Jeff was fan-boying big time. He was like, "Look everybody, its Cirie!"
Im sorry but everytime Fairplay says "My grandmothers sitting at home watching Jerry Springer" I absolutely crack up. I remember watching that episode with my dad and we just looked at each other and the look on my father's eyes... Lmfao.
Sue's speech is the most iconic and amazing speech ever. I'm glad someone brought it in the first season and it is a moment that has never been topped by anything in the next 39 seasons. It was full of spite and anger and cut deep. Perfect
I always thought Sue's speech was over the top drama. Her bitterness at Kelly is just hard to watch. Girl played a better game and just like everybody else had good reasons to want that money. I always thought that Josh's speech in FTC San Juan del Sur was better.
@@jenniferconstantine9041 exactly, i dont really like that speech cuz its so stupid, its a game, did she though she was going to a family convention or what.....Kelly should have won
Sue was a legitimate delusional who contributed nothing and thought more of herself than she gave to the actual game. When giving her speech you could smell the sour grapes from the television she was so bitter. She didn't deserve to be in all stars and she certainly doesn't deserve to be in all the highlights she's in for the show
@@trololololol1111 LMAO CANNOT LIE I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE SHOW 💀 i started with cagayan and I'm on that rn, i honestly don't even know what season its from so don't listen to me 💀
I didn't love immunity train, but I did call it like a month before it happened. I even said on twitter "there's gonna be so many idols that almost everyone will be immune" it happened.
I feel like Cirie is truly a robbed survivor, it seems like when she loses it's because of the show's discrepancies and they end up changing the rules right after (other than heroes vs villains ofc).
Yeah and in Heroes vs Villians she had no chance of making merge. If they voted Candice out she would be next so she was screwed with bad luck even then.
But I dont think they changed the rules much after the immunity train. Season 41 just had 3 idols in the game at a time. Theoretically, all 3 could have still be in play at the final 5 with 1 people winning immunity. By default the last person would be gone again.
I don't understand the hate , the idols and advantages are a part of the game. Its Cirie's fault she does not have an idol! I know she's a fan favourite, but still!!
The woman in the blue tight top giving the speech about snakes and rats was absolutely brutally ruthless! “I would let you die and let the vultures kill you” wow 😮
Are we not going to mention the double idol play by Parvati or Sandra's "I'll write your name again and when I'm up there in the f3 you'll still give me the million dollar vote". HvV was a legendary season.
Parv’s double idol play was boss level stuff. The fact that she used Russell’s idol without his knowledge (and her own that he didn’t even know about) and didn’t have him go scorched earth on her just shows you how legendary her social game really is. I really wish she had won that season. But, she fell victim to the other worldly game play of Sandra - the queen of idgaf and I’m gonna win by letting you think that I haven’t even played.
@@StacheBigote ok let me know if i’m wrong, but the only reason sandra won 20 was because no one wanted to vote for russell, and since parvati was russell’s ally, no one really wanted to vote for parvati as well. the only extremely smart move i remember sandra making was when she told russell that coach was trying to vote him out (which wasn’t true), and russell got all hot headed and was like “how dare he think such a thing”. coach ended up getting voted out and sandra was able to keep her alliance alive just a little bit, but other than that genius move, what else did she do?
@@sidharthkammili Well, for one, she worked the Heroes. She was also able to work with Russell while making it known that she didn’t like him. She distanced herself from him and then told him she was actively against him and got away with it, which is no small feat. Sandra’s game wasn’t about making big moves. In fact, her gameplay moves usually blew up in her face. The reason she won was because her social game was just better. It really revealed the game for what it was at the time. Don’t get me wrong, Sandra was mediocre at best at almost everything but the social game. And even there, her temper was a bit of a problem. There were elements of luck and improvisation that brought her to the end. But the biggest reason she was able to get to the end was that her opponents had underestimated the extent to which she had ingratiated herself. They didn’t see her as the threat that she really was. Sandra is the only “goat” in the show’s history that was actually a huge threat to win based on her own actions. She wasn’t really playing the same game. She was playing a game where she made people want to vote for her based on real life criteria, not the game’s criteria. How she got to the end didn’t matter. Once she was there, the game was hers. Both of her wins were clinched before the final tribal ever happened. That’s some seriously fire social game if you ask me.
@@StacheBigote yeah that makes a lot of sense now. i watched 20 before 7 so i didn’t know who the hell sandra was, and to be honest, she seemed like she was going to go home pretty soon. now i’m starting to see how powerful she was. thank u!
She was in a really bad spot strategically. If cirie didnt go at f6, she for sure would have gone home at f5 or f4. It didnt make that big a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Maybe but she could've won immunity. Who knows. All I know is if she made it to the finale 100% she wins by a landslide. Which makes her non vote out that much more horrible IMO! When they 100% take it out of your control and u can't do a thing to save yourself they ruin the game IMO.
I just wish Cirie also had an idol or an advantage. What would happen? Would Jeff Probst himself be eliminated by default? Would he have to retire from the show?
@@patdewar2262 if she made it to final three with those two Cirie wins by a landslide. Cirie had votes from Hali, Ozzy, Andrea, Debbie, michaela and Aubry. Possibly Tai as well. She’s definitely a force to be reckoned with.
Honestly, the immunity train is one of the only problems I have with survivor. I feel that there are too many advantages now floating around and so yes it mixes up the game but maybe puts less emphasis on strategy and players can now simply rely on these sometimes arbitrarily won advantages or idols.
production interfere too way too much , they love to 'script' and episode and keep their favourite player for drama , at times it just so blatent , those camera crews wait till golden boy/girl is wandering alone and smak an idol right it their path to fix the outcome of the votes , idols are part of the show but so blatantly abused .
@@realmccoy69 they don't do that. they legitimately hide the idols. unless you know any of the production personally, you shouldn't have any idea of how any of it works. just so you don't come back at me, I don't know anyone, so stop assuming a script is present and get a job. if you have a job, quit it and get another one.
I think Idols and advantages are there to counter boring one sided seasons like Redemption Island where Boston Rob's followers voted the other team one by one after the merge leading to weeks of sweet nothing happening.
@@realmccoy69 Russell Hantz said that he knew where to find the idols because the closer he got the more the camera people would follow him. Not because production gave them to him
I've seen a majority of the seasons but there's still a handful I've not been able to see. I actually cried for the last guy because it's awful to lose a family member even more so when you weren't able to say goodbye. My jaw dropped so hard when I realized he played them. And look I get it, you got to play hard for that money, and like Voldemort said, "There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those to weak to seek it." I don't necessarily agree with that but I think it applies in this moment very well. feel bad for the other players who had to give up time with there own family for that but hey, that's just how the game goes.
It’s such a cop out when ousted Survivors resort to personal insults of character on the Finale nights. Lying and deceit is a part of the game. The notion that the game can be played without lying, cheating, and backstabbing is delusional or just doesn’t understand the game.
It was the first season, the game wasn’t fully developed yet and a lot of people didn’t know to play the game, that’s why the jury speeches in the early seasons were kinda personal, especially in All Stars.
“My grandmas at home watching jerry springer right now” that cracked me up so hard the first time I saw that and again just now. I was so caught off guard
I would put the Parvati double idol play in HvH in the top 5. I would put Rob proposing to Amber also in the top 5. Also like the Rat ‘n Snake speech, the lie about the Grandma dying, and Cirie being “idoled out” too.
That wasn't even the best play of that season. Russell playing the idol for Parvati given how the voting actually turned out was far more iconic. But because he's not a pretty white girl, it's not recognized.
Immunity train was such a bummer. Survivor is supposed to be a social game and there were way too many advantages and idols floating around. Love the show to death but producers should have seen this coming at some point
i love everyone's reactions to the immunity train because its the quintessential fan reaction lol every survivor lover loves to see that kind of stuff go down, you can't help but be excited
The most poetic justice ever: Ozzy: If they don't have the backbone to stick with their tribe, that's fine. I'm sure they'll get their fate sooner or later. AND THEY DID
Cirie getting screwed by the immunity train highlights the problem with modern survivor. Waaaaay, too many idols and advantages. Don’t leave the game up to luck, please and thank you
You could tell Jeff new something was up with the whole "my grandmas dead" thing cause he was really non chalant with the apology and his face said it all.
Cirie was robbed so much she has to come back atleast one more time hands down Cirie is the best player to never win I mean sure Russell was a good strategist but his social game is so bad he can never win Cirie is Greg best player to never win
The difference between Cirie and Russell is that Cirie was actually liked by the jury, meanwhile, Russell did everything to piss them off and then demand a vote.
“You didn’t get the letter?” .. No one has communication to the outside world during the show so that grandma lie was amazing being that everyone fell for such a cheesy move 🥴😂
Todd shutting up John-Robert was perfect. JR was a narcissist. He thought he was the smartest person on planet earth, but he got outsmarted by Todd and it ate him alive. So Todd knew this and played exactly the way you play a narcissist, tell them how amazing and important they are, regardless of if it is true. JR had nothing to say because all he really cares about is proving to everyone that he is the greatest person to ever live, so when Todd just lied and told JR exactly what he wanted to hear, JR didn't know how to react. Todd was an incredibly smart player, and that was his best move of the whole game. JR's vote is what broke a tie and gave Todd the million dollars.
You'd think the immunity train would be an indicator that there are too many advantages at play in modern survivor. Instead, they keep ramping it up to the point of nonsense. Someone shouldn't get out simply because every other person has an advantage. It's supposed to be a game of social politics, not a scavenger hunt. It's really disappointing to see
Am I the only one that thinks that the rat and snake speech lady is just salty,what she said about the water part was just harsh! (this is my opinion no hate,no shade)
@@hlama1018 what else was kelly supposed to do? Risk drawing rocks for a person who told you they no longer want you in the final 2? No! And Sue went too far when she got personal by saying she'd let Kelly die in the hands of nature with no guilt of doing so. That's what @AnimeLover2021(in her/his comment) and Gervase(in his confessional) meant about Sue's speech. Kelly had every right to change her vote, besides-Sue was the reason Kelly had to rack up immunities, otherwise she wouldn't be in the finale. Don't forget what Sue said to Kelly in game when you choose to defend her. Peace✌
I remember watching the Cook Islands mutiny for the first time and about halfway through Jeff explaining, around when he says "maybe change your fate", I said out loud "omg what if they all just do it?? What would happen?! Would they have to merge???!!" and I couldn't believe that none of them thought of it.. I especially would've thought that Yul or even Penner would have been like "everyone step forward!" lol
It is not up there with Sue but season 30 when Jen who was on the jury went off on the rest of the jury for being so bitter that Mike made it to the end. That was classic and I never get tired of watching it.
What happened to Cerie is totally f’d up. It’s clear proof that there are too many idols and advantages in the game now. It’s annoying, difficult to keep up with and feels like the producers have a hand in the outcomes.
Cirie, I am so proud of you for winning “The Traitors.” You deserved so many better outcomes in “Survivor.” I’m glad you finally walked away with a pot of well-earned reality gold.
I wish he read the votes on immunity train. I wonder if anything would have gone different if one of them had known they would have been voted out that night
Idols are seriously broken these days of survivor. We saw how horrible it was in season 38. Rick Devens had absolutely zero social or strategic game so every day he just ran off into the woods to find an idol. And then there was Chris dear god what a horrible winner
How in the world however edited this video didn’t include Sandra’s “ FairPlay’s buddy” and Lill’s crying face saying “His grandma just died, Sandra!” This is pure gold, nice vid still tho
I feel like Jeff should have said “for the first time in survivor history I can’t say ‘the tribe has spoken.’” Two reality TV truths: Helen was Pushed and Cirie was ROBBED!
He set up the lie before he even left to be on the show. He knew that if he did that, he would get a lot of sympathy and the rest of the cast would let him win the challenge so that he could talk to his loved one, which they did (except for Sandra because she’s the ultimate boss). In winning the challenge he got a leg up in the next challenge, and in telling the lie he got a leg up for the rest of the game. He knew the power of sympathy and how he could subtly play on that for the rest of the show. That’s why he swore on his grandmother multiple times after that. So that people would think “this dude is swearing on his dead grandma, he must be telling the truth.” It was a truly vile moment, but he played it to absolute perfection (as far as we saw he never actually said she is dead, but that she’s “not here” lmao) and ended up making it to day 38 in large part because of it. That’s why it was brilliant. Nobody had ever thought to do something like that on the show before him. People had back stabbed and acted like villains (Boston Rob comes to mind...), but no one had ever orchestrated a moment in the game before the show even started that was that ridiculous and effective. Vecepia had done something with as much forethought (bringing a journal and taking notes on everyone to win the “how well do you know your cast mates challenge”) but that’s not nearly as creatively disgusting as what Fairplay did, imo. He knew nobody would question it. He knew he’d get away with it and he knew it would help him. Pretty smart.
I know the recent uploads this last month have been a bit lack luster, so I’ve decided to spend the time to make a nice lengthy compilation! Which moment was the most iconic to you? Next video will likely be “underrated players part 2”!
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The Mutiny is so underrated.. it literally only got better with each episode, with Candice going to exile every single time thereafter, and the Aitu 4 becoming the final 4... just so poetic
Who won ?
@@jjgallardo02 Yul
Ozzy carried the challenges and Yul solidified the team, and broke down the other team socially. Best combo ever
@@patapon646 Yul was a really talented strategist, but he benefited a lot from the particular season he played on.
@@StacheBigote So did Ozzy
Cerie will go down as one of the best players of Survivor ever. She was so good the only reason why she got eliminated was because the game itself was faulty with too many idols at play. A true queen.
Cirie was great, but it’s on her and not the game that she lost. I’ll give you an example. In Micronesia at the final three they had to deal with the final two twist. Some might say, well, if she had gone to the final tribal she might have been able to pull it off. But she didn’t. And it wasn’t because of the game. It was because Amanda used a superior strategy in the final immunity challenge. By switching her grip back and forth as opposed to using the same grip every time, she was able to out last Cirie. In Game Changers, you can say that the game was faulty because there were too many idols and advantages, but I don’t agree. In fact, I think the way Sarah obtained and used those was a testament to how good she was. And, if that’s the case, Cirie’s lack of advantages can’t be a testament to how bad the game was in that season. Cirie didn’t get the upper hand in the game but that’s on her. Everyone else did.
I think that she’s possibly the greatest non-winner in the show’s history, but she doesn’t have a place amongst the actual greats in my opinion. Because, at the end of the day, the people that won played the best game in their season. Even if they were goats. Because the game isn’t about being a mastermind. It’s about winning. And if you found yourself with that million dollar check in your hand, you outplayed everyone. You made it to the end with the right people sitting next to you and the right people on the jury. So, in a world where there are 38 people that played more effective games than Cirie, I can’t in good faith rank her over a single one of them.
Bro, Nah... it’s all because the stupid over complication and twist in the game. It’s stupid. If players knew it was a final two, I promise you cirie would’ve split up Amanda and parv
To be fair she never found a idol or advantage which is a big weakness in modern survivor due to moments like these as it is a advantage heavy era
HahA
@@StacheBigote Wtf You think players like Fabio from survivor Nicaragua or Ben from Heroes Vs Healers Vs Hustlets are better Cirie. Survivor is a very complicated game because there is only so much that is in a players control.With so many twists in modern seasons there's a lot of luck involved. I believe that if you find yourself with the million dollar check you played a hell of a good game but not neccesarily the best or the most deserving one. Idk much about Cirie's first time playing but every other time Cirie has had extremely bad luck and things that went wrong were out of her contol. Cirie is not only the best non winning survivor player but definetly among the best survivor players.
Loved how Jeff gave Cirie a little speech after though.
And how he allowed her to say "The Tribe Has Spoken"
@@awesumwasum7228 only true legends are allowed to say jeff lines
I adore how much Jeff loves Cirie. It literally does feel lke its an honor to be inher mere presence. When she played Celebrity Wheel of Fortune with Survivor players from all seasons, Jeff was fan-boying big time. He was like, "Look everybody, its Cirie!"
Number 1 is one of the most evil, brilliant, and commendable moves ever.
Evil ? .... hyperbole much ?
Its a game ... its not like he really killed someone ... even his grandma did not mind it abit ..
Biggest lie in the history of Survivor.
@@88feji followed by "brilliant and commendable" lmao but go on and hyper fixate on the negative
@Abby from wii sports didn't he like get arrested
I was surprised the production didn't tell him before. But I didn't think much more into it.
Im sorry but everytime Fairplay says "My grandmothers sitting at home watching Jerry Springer" I absolutely crack up. I remember watching that episode with my dad and we just looked at each other and the look on my father's eyes... Lmfao.
Sue's speech is the most iconic and amazing speech ever. I'm glad someone brought it in the first season and it is a moment that has never been topped by anything in the next 39 seasons. It was full of spite and anger and cut deep. Perfect
I always thought Sue's speech was over the top drama. Her bitterness at Kelly is just hard to watch. Girl played a better game and just like everybody else had good reasons to want that money. I always thought that Josh's speech in FTC San Juan del Sur was better.
@@jenniferconstantine9041 exactly, i dont really like that speech cuz its so stupid, its a game, did she though she was going to a family convention or what.....Kelly should have won
Talking about dignity then goes on to say if you were in need of a drink I wouldn't give you water was so effed up but still iconic
Sue was a legitimate delusional who contributed nothing and thought more of herself than she gave to the actual game. When giving her speech you could smell the sour grapes from the television she was so bitter. She didn't deserve to be in all stars and she certainly doesn't deserve to be in all the highlights she's in for the show
@@TiagoSilvaESC I wouldn't go that far.. Rich still had better game overall imo
Cirie handled the immunity train like a trooper! She’s such a classy player
She really did that was insane
It’s because she just really loves the game and has a fun time doing it, you can tell on each season she’s been on
I teared up when Cirie got “ voted out” she’s soo sweet and her story is amazing
@@trololololol1111 bro what???
Fr! She was an amazing player and person
@@trololololol1111 bro r u tripping 💀
@@trololololol1111 LMAO CANNOT LIE I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE SHOW 💀 i started with cagayan and I'm on that rn, i honestly don't even know what season its from so don't listen to me 💀
@@trololololol1111 why are you so rude and racist?
I hope Cirie comes back to play one more time. Shes one of my favorite survivors of all time.
Idc that shes not a winner she should have come back in winners at war.
@@mitjamackenzie1219 would’ve won or been bullshitted out
She’s on the traitors
She’s the most useless and most sneaky human being ever on survivor.
@@TheGreatest1974no that would be your mom
I didn't love immunity train, but I did call it like a month before it happened. I even said on twitter "there's gonna be so many idols that almost everyone will be immune" it happened.
Jordan Maze OMG I was so happy when Tai played his Idol on Aubry, I was so happy that she stayed
@@tomas3608 then voted out right after cirie
Wow she said it on twitter guys wow 😮
“That was a brilliant performance” Really? ‘She died dude’ is one of the least sympathetic ways to tell someone that a close relative has died😂
She's here, broheim
*Hands him a zip lock bag of ashes*
I feel like Cirie is truly a robbed survivor, it seems like when she loses it's because of the show's discrepancies and they end up changing the rules right after (other than heroes vs villains ofc).
exactly. like the whole final two switchup in micronesia. she would’ve easily won if they didn’t do a final two and just kept it at final three.
Totally agree. And seems like Jeff was rooting for her to do well but they still found a way to screw her
Yeah and in Heroes vs Villians she had no chance of making merge. If they voted Candice out she would be next so she was screwed with bad luck even then.
More than once!
But I dont think they changed the rules much after the immunity train. Season 41 just had 3 idols in the game at a time. Theoretically, all 3 could have still be in play at the final 5 with 1 people winning immunity. By default the last person would be gone again.
I love Sue's speech, it was long, dry and filled with salt.
i laughed so much
Immunity train is just sad and depressing for the current state of the show
Madd Kamaruzz fakes they had 2 much advantges
They fixed it by limiting the idols/advantages much shorter
I don't understand the hate , the idols and advantages are a part of the game. Its Cirie's fault she does not have an idol! I know she's a fan favourite, but still!!
@@Gamboanoah I wouldn’t hate the immunity train so much if it were anyone else but cirie
I wish Sarah or Troyzan didn't have an idol. Would much rather have seen Cirie, Aubry and Tai in the final 3
I miss days with less hidden immunities, more REWARD challenges (food, movie night. Yacht trips, soap, etc) and less advantages
She died, dude.
Johnny Rotten ....... to the core.
Once a liar always a liar. It's addicting.
The woman in the blue tight top giving the speech about snakes and rats was absolutely brutally ruthless! “I would let you die and let the vultures kill you” wow 😮
Are we not going to mention the double idol play by Parvati or Sandra's "I'll write your name again and when I'm up there in the f3 you'll still give me the million dollar vote". HvV was a legendary season.
Parv’s double idol play was boss level stuff. The fact that she used Russell’s idol without his knowledge (and her own that he didn’t even know about) and didn’t have him go scorched earth on her just shows you how legendary her social game really is. I really wish she had won that season. But, she fell victim to the other worldly game play of Sandra - the queen of idgaf and I’m gonna win by letting you think that I haven’t even played.
@@StacheBigote ok let me know if i’m wrong, but the only reason sandra won 20 was because no one wanted to vote for russell, and since parvati was russell’s ally, no one really wanted to vote for parvati as well. the only extremely smart move i remember sandra making was when she told russell that coach was trying to vote him out (which wasn’t true), and russell got all hot headed and was like “how dare he think such a thing”. coach ended up getting voted out and sandra was able to keep her alliance alive just a little bit, but other than that genius move, what else did she do?
@@sidharthkammili Well, for one, she worked the Heroes. She was also able to work with Russell while making it known that she didn’t like him. She distanced herself from him and then told him she was actively against him and got away with it, which is no small feat. Sandra’s game wasn’t about making big moves. In fact, her gameplay moves usually blew up in her face. The reason she won was because her social game was just better. It really revealed the game for what it was at the time. Don’t get me wrong, Sandra was mediocre at best at almost everything but the social game. And even there, her temper was a bit of a problem. There were elements of luck and improvisation that brought her to the end. But the biggest reason she was able to get to the end was that her opponents had underestimated the extent to which she had ingratiated herself. They didn’t see her as the threat that she really was. Sandra is the only “goat” in the show’s history that was actually a huge threat to win based on her own actions. She wasn’t really playing the same game. She was playing a game where she made people want to vote for her based on real life criteria, not the game’s criteria. How she got to the end didn’t matter. Once she was there, the game was hers. Both of her wins were clinched before the final tribal ever happened. That’s some seriously fire social game if you ask me.
@@StacheBigote yeah that makes a lot of sense now. i watched 20 before 7 so i didn’t know who the hell sandra was, and to be honest, she seemed like she was going to go home pretty soon. now i’m starting to see how powerful she was. thank u!
My dad met the lady who gave the rat and snake speech. She lives like 30 minutes away and he noticed her while she came into his pharmacy😂
Isaac Barker I’ve never heard someone call sue the lady who gave the rat and snake speech😂
That speech was good
@@caramcwade5591 Awww . . .He must be a young one that's all. :-)
ooo wisconsin :3
That speech was brutal!!
I’m still so salty about the game changers thing. I think Cirie could have finally won if this didn’t happen
Actually, Im pretty sure Aubry had a better chance, most likely if the legacy advantage didn't happen
:(
Cirie should have won Micronesia too
Abbey Barnhart Ik it’s pretty stupid but idols are a part of the game now we have to face it
She was in a really bad spot strategically. If cirie didnt go at f6, she for sure would have gone home at f5 or f4. It didnt make that big a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Immunity train was iconic but pissed me off at the same time. Poor Cirie. But without this, I think she would’ve been out at Final 4
Maybe but she could've won immunity. Who knows. All I know is if she made it to the finale 100% she wins by a landslide. Which makes her non vote out that much more horrible IMO! When they 100% take it out of your control and u can't do a thing to save yourself they ruin the game IMO.
I just wish Cirie also had an idol or an advantage. What would happen? Would Jeff Probst himself be eliminated by default? Would he have to retire from the show?
Best Theory
That wouldn’t have happened as survivor made sure there’s enough advantage or idol for 1 person to be eliminated. Not more.
THE TRIBE HAS SPOKEN! And now here comes Drew Carey to fill in! *Millions of people cry out in anger*
I just imagined Probst saying "Tribe has spoken. Aight, I'mma head out" with his classic shit eating grin on his face
@@Esonar "Welcome to Whos Idol is it anyway, where the rules are made up and the votes do not matter"
Cirie would have won Game Changers had the Immunity Train not happened.
@Rachel Mayer this just made me even sadder
She would not have won she could not compete with Sarah or brad
@@patdewar2262 if immunity train didn't happen, she wouldn't have had to.
she was playing a better game anyways and she would have won a ftc.
I hate to say it but idols are in the game now Ik it sucks but it’s survivor now face it
@@patdewar2262 if she made it to final three with those two Cirie wins by a landslide. Cirie had votes from Hali, Ozzy, Andrea, Debbie, michaela and Aubry. Possibly Tai as well. She’s definitely a force to be reckoned with.
Cerie’s elimination will forever be iconic, no one else has ever and probably will never have to leave like that 💀🤚🏻
Honestly, the immunity train is one of the only problems I have with survivor. I feel that there are too many advantages now floating around and so yes it mixes up the game but maybe puts less emphasis on strategy and players can now simply rely on these sometimes arbitrarily won advantages or idols.
production interfere too way too much , they love to 'script' and episode and keep their favourite player for drama , at times it just so blatent , those camera crews wait till golden boy/girl is wandering alone and smak an idol right it their path to fix the outcome of the votes , idols are part of the show but so blatantly abused .
Hence Australian survivor is my fav now … I don’t like them shorten the days on American Survivor and the advantages
@@realmccoy69 they don't do that. they legitimately hide the idols. unless you know any of the production personally, you shouldn't have any idea of how any of it works. just so you don't come back at me, I don't know anyone, so stop assuming a script is present and get a job. if you have a job, quit it and get another one.
I think Idols and advantages are there to counter boring one sided seasons like Redemption Island where Boston Rob's followers voted the other team one by one after the merge leading to weeks of sweet nothing happening.
@@realmccoy69 Russell Hantz said that he knew where to find the idols because the closer he got the more the camera people would follow him. Not because production gave them to him
*She died, dude*
Who died
He lied, dude
I've seen a majority of the seasons but there's still a handful I've not been able to see. I actually cried for the last guy because it's awful to lose a family member even more so when you weren't able to say goodbye. My jaw dropped so hard when I realized he played them. And look I get it, you got to play hard for that money, and like Voldemort said, "There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those to weak to seek it." I don't necessarily agree with that but I think it applies in this moment very well. feel bad for the other players who had to give up time with there own family for that but hey, that's just how the game goes.
The Rats and Snakes speech is my absolute favorite.
Her accent and the music/birds in the background made the entire speech 😭
Xander, Evvie, and Tiffany really just said, “Hold my baby turtle.”
That movie isn’t anywhere close to being in this video lol
Not even close
It’s such a cop out when ousted Survivors resort to personal insults of character on the Finale nights. Lying and deceit is a part of the game. The notion that the game can be played without lying, cheating, and backstabbing is delusional or just doesn’t understand the game.
benhenjr remember that this is season 1. Lying, cheating and so on wasn’t a thing until Richard Hatch made it a thing
It was the first season, the game wasn’t fully developed yet and a lot of people didn’t know to play the game, that’s why the jury speeches in the early seasons were kinda personal, especially in All Stars.
Rich did shit that wouldn't be allowed now, like walking around naked and the producers didn't give a crap. Sue had a right to feel angry.
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra pretty sure walking around naked is allowed and lots of player have done it
It was never a thing until corrupted people were chosen to play the game
Poor cirie. And not one vote went towards her. That's always rough to watch
My top 5
1. Dead Grandma
2. Sue's Snake and Rats Speech
3. Erik gives up immunity
4. Rob proposes to Amber
5. Parvati's double idol play
Wentworth will not count is up there too
When Malcom and Eddie play idols to get rid of Phillip, too!
“My grandmas at home watching jerry springer right now” that cracked me up so hard the first time I saw that and again just now. I was so caught off guard
I would put the Parvati double idol play in HvH in the top 5. I would put Rob proposing to Amber also in the top 5. Also like the Rat ‘n Snake speech, the lie about the Grandma dying, and Cirie being “idoled out” too.
That wasn't even the best play of that season. Russell playing the idol for Parvati given how the voting actually turned out was far more iconic. But because he's not a pretty white girl, it's not recognized.
Who Else remembers how ozzy was so good that they made the challenges more puzzle based?
Todd's response 😂 especially after watching Courtney and Amanda getting cooked.
Thank you for this unexpected gift! 😄
ava :)
Loved the video as always!
Imagine if his Grandma actually died whils he was doing this
Immunity train was such a bummer. Survivor is supposed to be a social game and there were way too many advantages and idols floating around. Love the show to death but producers should have seen this coming at some point
Owen Lewis lol are you really a fan
Lexa Com Trikru yes
i love everyone's reactions to the immunity train because its the quintessential fan reaction lol every survivor lover loves to see that kind of stuff go down, you can't help but be excited
The most poetic justice ever:
Ozzy: If they don't have the backbone to stick with their tribe, that's fine. I'm sure they'll get their fate sooner or later.
AND THEY DID
Cirie getting screwed by the immunity train highlights the problem with modern survivor. Waaaaay, too many idols and advantages. Don’t leave the game up to luck, please and thank you
Amen to that
You could tell Jeff new something was up with the whole "my grandmas dead" thing cause he was really non chalant with the apology and his face said it all.
Sues rat and snake speech was insane. Changed my life honestly seeing that as a kid haha
Cirie was robbed so much she has to come back atleast one more time hands down Cirie is the best player to never win I mean sure Russell was a good strategist but his social game is so bad he can never win Cirie is Greg best player to never win
The difference between Cirie and Russell is that Cirie was actually liked by the jury, meanwhile, Russell did everything to piss them off and then demand a vote.
have her & her boy that came for the family visit be in a blood vs water season.
She’s back on the season they released on Netflix
I think we can agree the top 3 is (no particular order other than 1)
Cirie
Russell
Ozzy
@@sethkettel263 not ozzy… Amanda
“You didn’t get the letter?” .. No one has communication to the outside world during the show so that grandma lie was amazing being that everyone fell for such a cheesy move 🥴😂
Todd shutting up John-Robert was perfect. JR was a narcissist. He thought he was the smartest person on planet earth, but he got outsmarted by Todd and it ate him alive. So Todd knew this and played exactly the way you play a narcissist, tell them how amazing and important they are, regardless of if it is true. JR had nothing to say because all he really cares about is proving to everyone that he is the greatest person to ever live, so when Todd just lied and told JR exactly what he wanted to hear, JR didn't know how to react. Todd was an incredibly smart player, and that was his best move of the whole game. JR's vote is what broke a tie and gave Todd the million dollars.
Exactly. People argue that Amanda or Courtney should have won but Todd completely deserved the win
the immunity train highlights why they need to have 1 idol pre merge and 1 after or simply 1
I feel bad for Ciri, but I’m glad she still answers me when I ask my iPhone questions.
You'd think the immunity train would be an indicator that there are too many advantages at play in modern survivor. Instead, they keep ramping it up to the point of nonsense. Someone shouldn't get out simply because every other person has an advantage. It's supposed to be a game of social politics, not a scavenger hunt. It's really disappointing to see
the mutiny and the aftermath is my favorite moment of survivor ever
Got to love Johnny fair play
I will never ever get tired of Greg Buis's reaction at 8:30 where he is just rubbing his head and thinking out loud "Just STFU, Sue"!!!!
Am I the only one that thinks that the rat and snake speech lady is just salty,what she said about the water part was just harsh! (this is my opinion no hate,no shade)
AnimeLover_2021 ya she said if she was laying there dying she wouldn’t help like wtf
I'm with ya girl, Sue was just a sore LOSER.
@@hlama1018 what else was kelly supposed to do? Risk drawing rocks for a person who told you they no longer want you in the final 2? No! And Sue went too far when she got personal by saying she'd let Kelly die in the hands of nature with no guilt of doing so. That's what @AnimeLover2021(in her/his comment) and Gervase(in his confessional) meant about Sue's speech. Kelly had every right to change her vote, besides-Sue was the reason Kelly had to rack up immunities, otherwise she wouldn't be in the finale. Don't forget what Sue said to Kelly in game when you choose to defend her. Peace✌
James is hilarious man😂
I’ve watched 40 seasons and I still remember the sue speech
I lovit original Survivor .Boston Rob is my favorite player. A fan from the Czech Republic ..
I remember watching the Cook Islands mutiny for the first time and about halfway through Jeff explaining, around when he says "maybe change your fate", I said out loud "omg what if they all just do it?? What would happen?! Would they have to merge???!!" and I couldn't believe that none of them thought of it.. I especially would've thought that Yul or even Penner would have been like "everyone step forward!" lol
The immunity train BS
yep
the survivor 43 move that jessie executed was one of the best, if not the best, strategic moves I've ever seen in survivor imo
survivor is such an interesting show
For ONCE, a Survivor list that I completely agree with. KUDOS!!!
Omg the last one is soo evil 👿
and yet so brilliant
Cirie’s advantage-geddon is a PERFECT example of too many twists and idols being in play in Survivor
i want to know what jeff was thinking when sue came through with the greatest roast ive ever heard in my entire life
It is not up there with Sue but season 30 when Jen who was on the jury went off on the rest of the jury for being so bitter that Mike made it to the end. That was classic and I never get tired of watching it.
James is the king of Survivor he’s just too nice to win I really hope he comes back again
James, nice?
Dude was a total PoS in hvv
I’ve always wondered if Jeff secretly says “Holy *expletive*” when he goes to tally the votes and sees the results…
I loved when Ozzie made the fake immunity idol
LMAO " Let the vultures decide" 😭😭😭
Cirie in GC will continue to hurt more than you know. 😭😭😭😭😭❤❤
i remember watching the dead grandma thing with my mom and we were both absolutely flabbergasted LMAO
i was so done with that dude
What happened to Cerie is totally f’d up. It’s clear proof that there are too many idols and advantages in the game now. It’s annoying, difficult to keep up with and feels like the producers have a hand in the outcomes.
Cirie, I am so proud of you for winning “The Traitors.” You deserved so many better outcomes in “Survivor.” I’m glad you finally walked away with a pot of well-earned reality gold.
Damn shit getting real!!!
Sues speech is epic.
fun fact the immunity train was a 3*-2*-1* vote
chloe the ghost girl ironic
More top 5’s!
Good video!
MelodyChills Thanjs!
Cirie - production has spoken
The way Circe got out really just is iconic
#4 that lady took it way too seriously. It's a game!
Damn the infamous mutiny and snakes and rats both are legendary
Of Cirie has an idol!
#5 makes my blood boil
Eliminating strong players out of fear is meant as strategy 😪
I wish he read the votes on immunity train. I wonder if anything would have gone different if one of them had known they would have been voted out that night
God damn, I love Cirie! She deserved a better end to her Survivor career but she’ll always have a place in its history!
Idols are seriously broken these days of survivor. We saw how horrible it was in season 38. Rick Devens had absolutely zero social or strategic game so every day he just ran off into the woods to find an idol. And then there was Chris dear god what a horrible winner
I fucking love survivor
How in the world however edited this video didn’t include Sandra’s “ FairPlay’s buddy” and Lill’s crying face saying “His grandma just died, Sandra!” This is pure gold, nice vid still tho
I feel like Jeff should have said “for the first time in survivor history I can’t say ‘the tribe has spoken.’”
Two reality TV truths: Helen was Pushed and Cirie was ROBBED!
Helen was robbed.
wait I’m confused why did he lie about his grandma and why is it called a brilliant move 😅
People felt bad for him so he got free food
It was to gain sympathy
He set up the lie before he even left to be on the show. He knew that if he did that, he would get a lot of sympathy and the rest of the cast would let him win the challenge so that he could talk to his loved one, which they did (except for Sandra because she’s the ultimate boss). In winning the challenge he got a leg up in the next challenge, and in telling the lie he got a leg up for the rest of the game. He knew the power of sympathy and how he could subtly play on that for the rest of the show. That’s why he swore on his grandmother multiple times after that. So that people would think “this dude is swearing on his dead grandma, he must be telling the truth.” It was a truly vile moment, but he played it to absolute perfection (as far as we saw he never actually said she is dead, but that she’s “not here” lmao) and ended up making it to day 38 in large part because of it. That’s why it was brilliant. Nobody had ever thought to do something like that on the show before him. People had back stabbed and acted like villains (Boston Rob comes to mind...), but no one had ever orchestrated a moment in the game before the show even started that was that ridiculous and effective. Vecepia had done something with as much forethought (bringing a journal and taking notes on everyone to win the “how well do you know your cast mates challenge”) but that’s not nearly as creatively disgusting as what Fairplay did, imo. He knew nobody would question it. He knew he’d get away with it and he knew it would help him. Pretty smart.
because getting sympathy to win a challenge is a genius move lol
The Jonny FairPlay one is classic
The fake dying grandma is classic. Nasty as hell but still classic!
Damn cerie you were a total badass and fate was crazy that night
Number 2 is still my favorite though 🤣