I know this is an old video but to comment on the blades coming loose. About a year before you made this video we got the blades flipped as part of the service on our chipper. Its a vermeer 1500. Anyways were about an hour into the day with 1 ton of brush chipped when one of those blades decided it was quittin time. It banged around and blew out the bottom of the machine and shot out pretty far. Thankfully missed everyone and everything but it was absolutely terrifying to run up as it was baging around to shut the machine down. It was after shutting it off when it blew up the bottom
First thing, go in house get a couple of old bath towels and pack around drum, save your self alot of headache's, you never think your going to drop something and then it happens !!!! 🤬
Yeah, if the manufacturer says to use loctite, use loctite and torque it to spec. Because again, you right about a knife coming loose while chipping. There's a few such videos here on YT that show the aftermath and how the hardened blade shot through the side of the chip chamber. Bolt bits kicked out. Whole unit was trash but the operator was fine. Scared em enough to likely wet themselves, but they didn't lose a finger, hand, arm, leg, or their lives when the knives let go. I think there's a video of a really big disk style, like whole tree thirty inch size. When it's flywheel cutter cracked and let go. Made the whole trailer jump up ten feet and twenty to the left. Blew the cover right off the chip chamber housing.
Those bolts are grade 8 right Tim, everything has held up very well, pretty cool to watch you change those, if there's one thing, tree work is always needing done all the time, thanks for sharing Tim god bless 🌲🌲💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hi Tim: Great video! I might suggest (2) things: When you torque bolts, etc, go over them twice..... Re-check the torque. When you are chipping, do you have a metal detector to check suspect tree trunks? I seen an old tree, one time, that someone hung a hammock from this tree, and used a 1/2 inch grade 8 lag bolt screwed into the tree!.. Hit something like that, and the machine may come apart! At any rate, you would be in the market for a new set of underwear! I had a really hard, something, that just about went through the impellor housing on my chipper! Best Wishes And GOD BLESS! Gary
These knifes only have a limited number of sharpening as they aren't adjustable, or unless the anvil is adjustable, great to watch your change of the knifes Tim, 👍👍👍.
I have to believe that you take better care of your equipment than a lot of tree guys out there. There was one taking down a tree accost the street from us that I wondered if his chipper was going to make it! Looked like it had been in a war and ran like crap. My wife had to hold me back from going over there and tuning that thing up!
Keep doing what your doing let no material build behind the knife and replace the bolts after specified torquing you’ll be golden. Also don’t ignore that bed knife, makes it work easy 👍😆
CT3 we ran a 8 blade with 2 stationary knife's, I set up s.o.p to retorque after running a half hour or up to normal operating temperature. We used to have blade's resharpened but found out cheaper to buy new, I don't know if that holds true now. 38 years running " Hog " that's what we called it.
i had a knife come loose my 6.5 hp chipper and thank god i was no near it it threw it through 3/16 steel bent the shaft on the engine and then the vibrations broke the carburator off thank god for warrenty
Interesting they have the knives the other way up vs Vermeer. They run with the bevel towards the drum. On the machine I have, I've used a scraper (like painters) to clean the mating surfaces with the idea to keep them flat as possible.
A tree grew around a piece of rearbar an we sent it into a bandit chipper just like this one and it literally sheered all the bolts off every blade. An the blades went threw the shout an threw the chip box into the cab. That wasn't the worst part the worst part was that loose metal started getting blown threw threw the walls around the drum am shuet. My boss ran to the control panel to attempt to pull the clutch an turn the key off but unfortunately was hit 4 times the worst impact was in his neck an 3 in his chest. Long story short he almost died an bled to death so be very very careful about every piece of anything you send threw them feed wheels...
Tim im shocked that their is still a head on those bolts after all the contact they go thru,and arent counter sunk to protect them,but man am i impressed on how good a condition they are in,good on bandit chipper for good design👍👍👍
I'm unfamiliar with the Bandit drum chipper . Does it also have a shear bar ? Changing knives on drum chippers I"m familiar with meant check/resetting knife/shear bar clearance . Great video work Tim ! Yeah cleaning both knives and drum seats is an essential step as skipping it can cause detorquing of the knife bolts . BTDTGTTS
Nothing like fresh sharp knives ! We run a Bandit 3590xl it’s a 1200HP chipper, a metal paint scraper works awesome to clean the knives and knife holders in the field. We’ve never used Loc tite just 3-4 good uga uga’s with a Milwaukee 1/2 Impact! Cooper Timber Arcadia FL
40 hours is an eternity on knives. When I worked in the woods on a chipping crew we did the knives everyday. You could tell when they were getting full based on how long it took to load a truck. Yeah we definitely didn’t do lock Tite and we just used the airgun. Of course we did it between rounds of trucks and you don’t have that pressure.
That looked about as simple and straight forward as possible.
I used to change blades on the grinders at work. For plastic used a tap and die to clean the old loctite off
They made it easy to change the knives out it looks like 👍
Enjoyed the video Tim have a good one!
I know this is an old video but to comment on the blades coming loose. About a year before you made this video we got the blades flipped as part of the service on our chipper. Its a vermeer 1500. Anyways were about an hour into the day with 1 ton of brush chipped when one of those blades decided it was quittin time. It banged around and blew out the bottom of the machine and shot out pretty far. Thankfully missed everyone and everything but it was absolutely terrifying to run up as it was baging around to shut the machine down. It was after shutting it off when it blew up the bottom
good job that's how you do it the right way.
First thing, go in house get a couple of old bath towels and pack around drum, save your self alot of headache's, you never think your going to drop something and then it happens !!!! 🤬
Yeah, if the manufacturer says to use loctite, use loctite and torque it to spec. Because again, you right about a knife coming loose while chipping. There's a few such videos here on YT that show the aftermath and how the hardened blade shot through the side of the chip chamber. Bolt bits kicked out. Whole unit was trash but the operator was fine. Scared em enough to likely wet themselves, but they didn't lose a finger, hand, arm, leg, or their lives when the knives let go. I think there's a video of a really big disk style, like whole tree thirty inch size. When it's flywheel cutter cracked and let go. Made the whole trailer jump up ten feet and twenty to the left. Blew the cover right off the chip chamber housing.
Those bolts are grade 8 right Tim, everything has held up very well, pretty cool to watch you change those, if there's one thing, tree work is always needing done all the time, thanks for sharing Tim god bless 🌲🌲💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hi Tim:
Great video!
I might suggest (2) things:
When you torque bolts, etc, go over them twice..... Re-check the torque.
When you are chipping, do you have a metal detector to check suspect tree trunks?
I seen an old tree, one time, that someone hung a hammock from this tree, and used a 1/2 inch grade 8 lag bolt screwed into the tree!.. Hit something like that, and the machine may come apart! At any rate, you would be in the market for a new set of underwear!
I had a really hard, something, that just about went through the impellor housing on my chipper!
Best Wishes And GOD BLESS!
Gary
Great video it was good to see how you changed the knives 👍
These knifes only have a limited number of sharpening as they aren't adjustable, or unless the anvil is adjustable, great to watch your change of the knifes Tim, 👍👍👍.
The anvil moves.
@@cotontop3 thank you Tim, that's good to hear, 👍👍👍.
I have to believe that you take better care of your equipment than a lot of tree guys out there. There was one taking down a tree accost the street from us that I wondered if his chipper was going to make it! Looked like it had been in a war and ran like crap. My wife had to hold me back from going over there and tuning that thing up!
Keep doing what your doing let no material build behind the knife and replace the bolts after specified torquing you’ll be golden. Also don’t ignore that bed knife, makes it work easy 👍😆
Good job Tim, Miss Piggy ready for munching duty again:):)
CT3 we ran a 8 blade with 2 stationary knife's, I set up s.o.p to retorque after running a half hour or up to normal operating temperature. We used to have blade's resharpened but found out cheaper to buy new, I don't know if that holds true now. 38 years running " Hog " that's what we called it.
i had a knife come loose my 6.5 hp chipper and thank god i was no near it it threw it through 3/16 steel bent the shaft on the engine and then the vibrations broke the carburator off thank god for warrenty
Dr. Coton, cleaning miss piggy's teeth . Good job 👍 Doc
Interesting they have the knives the other way up vs Vermeer. They run with the bevel towards the drum. On the machine I have, I've used a scraper (like painters) to clean the mating surfaces with the idea to keep them flat as possible.
Good stuff
You haven’t lived until a knife slips and sends the anvil through the chute lol. Had it happen to us a time or two
Harris & Sons Tree Work & Logging. Pinnacle NC
A tree grew around a piece of rearbar an we sent it into a bandit chipper just like this one and it literally sheered all the bolts off every blade. An the blades went threw the shout an threw the chip box into the cab. That wasn't the worst part the worst part was that loose metal started getting blown threw threw the walls around the drum am shuet. My boss ran to the control panel to attempt to pull the clutch an turn the key off but unfortunately was hit 4 times the worst impact was in his neck an 3 in his chest. Long story short he almost died an bled to death so be very very careful about every piece of anything you send threw them feed wheels...
Good video! Bad scabby on the loctite tho...def not sponsored 😄
No lock pin on the drum? My Vermeer has a pin that you use to keep it in place while the knives are torqued.
Oh right. Was watching on my phone and didn't hear the clunk when it hit the pin.
Ford’s tree works out of Jena,LA
Did you check the torque on the bolts after you ran it for four hours?
Tim im shocked that their is still a head on those bolts after all the contact they go thru,and arent counter sunk to protect them,but man am i impressed on how good a condition they are in,good on bandit chipper for good design👍👍👍
The bolts should not be contacting any material due to being in the relief area of the cutter wheel.
How many hours on Miss Piggy now?
I say it in the video multiple times and the first time is at the 1:50 mark.
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I'm unfamiliar with the Bandit drum chipper . Does it also have a shear bar ? Changing knives on drum chippers I"m familiar with meant check/resetting knife/shear bar clearance . Great video work Tim ! Yeah cleaning both knives and drum seats is an essential step as skipping it can cause detorquing of the knife bolts . BTDTGTTS
Is there a shear bar in there also Tim like grass forager has?
I believe so. In chippers they call it a “bed knife “ an adjustable bar that sets depth of cut. At least that’s what we call them in the northeast.
@@stevenwescott1422 do you not need to set the knifes to the bar?
Only after having the blades sharpened a few times. Sometimes adjust for frozen wood too.
Do you have to adjust the anval or is everything pre set
No not as long as the knives are same. Once I start running sharpened knives, I will have to check the anvil.
The only thing killing me, would you cross thread that bolt or not. Please blow out the bolt holes next time.
Are those knives expensive to replace
$60 per knife.
If you have a warranty on miss piggy, then by all means do it just as they say. Ya never know what can happen.
Nothing like fresh sharp knives ! We run a Bandit 3590xl it’s a 1200HP chipper, a metal paint scraper works awesome to clean the knives and knife holders in the field. We’ve never used Loc tite just 3-4 good uga uga’s with a Milwaukee 1/2 Impact! Cooper Timber Arcadia FL
You’re down below Tampa, a good piece from where I am. That’s good to know about just using the Milwaukee impact.
I would take a 4 by 4 drill 4 holes just a little bit bigger than the bolts so you can put them back in the same holes they came out of.
You’re gonna make sure that Ms. Piggy’s teeth are in proper!
Please tell me that's not a Chinese Harbor Freight torque wrench.
It’s not.
I know that you don’t have that many hours on your machine. Did you hit something with it, or was it just necessary to flip your teeth so soon?
Oh man, lesson 1, turn down my volume on head set before Tim starts blowing off equipment... oh man was that loud.
I bet that was rough.
40 hours is an eternity on knives. When I worked in the woods on a chipping crew we did the knives everyday. You could tell when they were getting full based on how long it took to load a truck. Yeah we definitely didn’t do lock Tite and we just used the airgun. Of course we did it between rounds of trucks and you don’t have that pressure.