Well clearly not, he talked about Ali for so long after their careers. Ali only talked about Fraizer to promote the fight, in which Fraizer earned millions. He said after the Thrila in Manila that he was the greatest fighter ever next to me. Ali even apologized to Fraizer which he didn’t need to do, Ali talking like that made Fraizer rich.
Absolutely! I know people from Philadelphia that idolize a fictional boxer? Rocky! But they have one of the greatest fighters of all time from their city and they don’t give a crap!?!?!?!? 🤯🤬
“Ali overrated as boxing ability, when he hit you it was like getting hit by a butterfly, When Joe Frazier hit you it was like getting hit by a bee.” Larry Holmes
Joe came up with the greatest performance on the most important night of the HW championship ever in March 8, 1971. Two undefeated champions (two of the best of all time) went at it and Joe emerged as champion.
Exactly! They can never take that away from him. Joe Frazier won one of the most important fights of all time and beat one the greatest fighters of all time. R.I.P. Joe
It's not because he was in an era full of great talents. When you think Ali, you think Frazier, when you think Foreman, you think Ali. Those 3 were the top of the heap in a heavyweight division that hasn't been rivaled since. Closest it's got was in the 90s but in terms of quality it's nowhere near where it was then
@@sleazyfellow yeah Ali was the Better boxer when you have to pick one of those 3 to compete against each of the other 2 (Although I wish Foreman wouldn’t have taken that break cuz I believe he would have beaten Ali in a Rematch & he would have been labeled as the hands down best of the Era & You can Argue that Foreman was because he was able to become heavyweight champion as an old man[in boxing],..Ali wasn’t able to be a success like Foreman was later in his career (out of his prime) ......but when it come to Ali & Frazier I do think heads up, Smoking Joe Frazier is the slightly better than Ali..... but since Joe’s style & skill wasn’t conducive to fighting Foreman & he got completely beaten down so that’s why I say you wouldn’t pick him for a Tournament type with the 3 of those guys..... .. & it drives me absolutely Crazy when people say that a prime Ali would win vs a prime Tyson, [even Ali says Tyson would have destroyed him], Tyson was basically a quicker, Faster, Stronger, & more technical & Better defensive version of Joe Frazier, Ali couldn’t really handle Frazier & it took every ounce of his being to keep up & be awarded 2 razor close victories, Now imagine a way better version of Joe Frazier in every category (except for Maybe Heart), Everyone Says how fast Ali was But Tyson was faster than Ali & The Prime Tyson peek-a-Boo style would give Ali Such problems...... If you want to pick any of the past ALL-TIME Greats (at Heavyweight) who has the ability to be great in any Era, I would say it’s Foreman because he has such an incredible power in general & he has the height & potential to compete with anyone, All Tyson is a complete package too but against All Time great heavyweights (who have tremendous skill) his height disadvantage is an issue like vs Lewis, but I would have loved to see what Levels Tyson could have reached if he stayed completely dedicated & didn’t abuse his body, I Already think on his best day he beats all other Heavyweights on their best day....... the Guy who really has a chance to be the GOAT is Tyson Fury Cuz he has the size, skill, ability, & Heart of a Ali/Frazier, Vitaly Klitschko also was underrated but it’s hard to see where he stands among the Alltime greats Cuz he was awesome as well but the he didn’t necessarily have other greats to test him, Lewis wouldn’t Rematch him as Lewis knew Vitaly was better than him & Beating The Breaks off of Lewis & Lewis caught a lucky break when a cut forced a stoppage in a fight he was emphatically losing LOL I know I rambled 😂
You make multiple questionable statements, too many to pick apart here but I will challenge one of them. You state (falsely) that the second fight vs Joe Frazier was “razor close”. This is not true. At the end of 12 rounds the judges scorecards read as follows: 7-4-1, 7-5 and 6-5-1. While the fight was close, it was certainly NOT “razor” close. Sports Illustrated magazine wrote that Ali “easily” won the fight. You say other things that are not backed up by facts but it would take too much time to take them all on here. Be careful. Words matter. Stay safe and enjoy the upcoming holiday season.
People do not readily know that while Ali was struggling after his license was striped he was unsuccessful running a burger joint and on Broadway The Champ (Frazier) dropped by to hand Ali cash to help him and his family along. The Champ also fought tirelessly and was instrumental in Ali getting his license back. Ali swore if The Champ beat him he would crawl across the ring and declare that The Champ (Frazier) was the greatest fighter ever. Not only did he brake his word, he attacked and attempted to humiliate Frazier. Joe Frazier is thE REAL
@@Renwoxing13 There's trashtalking & then there is blatant cruelty, especially to your fellow brother who helped you & your family out when you were down & out. Sonny Liston & Frazier had it 10 times worse than Ali, when they grew up, and Ali basically gave MLK Jr. the middle finger when he asked Clay/Ali to join him in his Civil-Rights-Movement Protests. It was always about Ali and ironically the people and the religion that he sacrificed everything for, were essentially thugs & terrorists that preached death to the "Whites," and anyone that wouldn't convert to their radical religion which disrespected women. Elijah Muhammad created the Nation of Islam when he was locked up in prison & he fleeced Ali out of his earnings, almost as bad as his ex-wifes.
To Cool Rush: I come from a place where we do what we say or we are considered STers. That’s not a thing to be proud of. Having said that anyone who was around for that fight or has seen that fight were treated to to Great Champions giving everything they had to win the WCship! Legendary fight, legendary Fighters, legendary time! God Bless the Lions!
Lol please ,that stuff is exaggerated about Joe and his license, he might well have said a few things but he didn't make a difference ,it was a politician in Atlanta he got him one ,which doesn't cover all states.stop making out that Joe was altruistic and selfless ,he needed Ali back because the majority didn't recognize him as the champ
True Ali was so wrong in doing what he did to Frazier. I'm a white man but I know enough not to call a black person a gorilla or make fun of his nose & bigness of his lips. You don't do that!!!
Joe Frazier was a Philly great - I loved when Bill Burr rips the people of philly saying they have a boxing statue for a fictional hero - Rocky and yet don't even have one for their hero Joe Frazier!
Thank you so much for giving Frazier the credit he deserves, he didnt get a cumb of Ali's fame, and he was indeed a better man than Ali just respectfully.
@@rakim6466 “Muhammad Ali a great man but as far as boxing ability overrated, when Ali hit you it was like a butterfly when Frazier hit you it was like a bee.” Larry Holmes
@@patrickgray5633 lol..so peanut head holmes is now the authority on who was the greatest? i think i could find a 1000 boxing historians that would say otherwise....try it sometime, its called education....
This man is so great! R.I.P Joe. You are the true champion. He beat Ali in 71. He brought himself to an unstoppable force against the Greatest and Joe won. What a nice humble man.
Beat Ali by a knock down but got put in the hospital for thirty days😂😂 Frazier got punched around the ring by foreman yet Ali ate foreman up. Ali was too great
Good for Howard. Joe grew up in the same context Ali grew up in but unlike Ali, Joe acted honorably. Robin keeps making excuses for Ali for some reason.
You don't win a fight sitting on your stool. Whether people think Ali wasn't getting up for the 15th round or not. Guaranteed he would have, he had too much guts and heart not to. And Ali won the first fight as well. No question.
Joe was a simple man and I mean that in a good way. I have learned to love Joe Frazier, a good man, person and human being. What Ali said about Joe over a period of 4 years was well beyond selling the 3 fights they had, Ali didn’t care how it effected Joe or his family, in fact - he wanted the reactions the derogatory comments brought. To me now looking back, it showed the fear Ali had of losing to Joe that he would say or do anything that may give him an edge in those fights. Whereas, Joe let his fists do his talking in the ring. I say this as a person who looked at Ali as a hero as I was growing up but, on reflection, I can now see the true hero in Joe Frazier. The person who over come physical disabilities, with a damaged left arm and nearly blind in one eye and yet went on to become “heavy weight champion “ of the world. Ali was special in lots of ways to lots of people, including me but, as a fighter and a selfless person - Joe stands head and shoulders above Ali to me. RIP Ali - Joe
Agreed, Joe should be ranked higher than Ali in my opinion. Joe beat him once and was leading on points in another-it was pure luck for Ali that Joe’s manager threw in the towel before Ali could
@@Ditka-89 what was lucky about it? He had lost sight in his one good eye. You cannot send the guy out there like that. They made a good call. If Joe had died that night, the corner would be under severe scrutiny. No doubt Joe was up there but Joe's only opportunity to win was Ali not getting up from his stool. Had Ali walked out there, it would've been a finish. Ali didn't wanna go back out there because he was being forced to work and was taking punishment. When he realised Joe couldn't see, I'm sure he wouldve been in better condition than Joe was. Great fight and great story but the best man won.
@@Ditka-89 how should he be ranled higher than Ali? Ali had him stopped in the second fight and the ref gave a standing 8 count in about round 2 because Joe was getting his ass whooped. That fight wasnt even close. The 1st one was close and so was the 3rd fight. I dont remember Ali getting absolutely obliterated by Foreman in 2 fights in a row. Frazier was 1 of 2 of Ali's toughest opponents but never ever on any planet better than him.
He shouldn't be ranked over Ali, that's absurd. However he was completely wrong for that. Do you guys know if the taunting was the same thoughout the 3 fights?
@James Williams No shit! If 1998, like, Private Parts-era Howard could've seen what 2020 Howard would become? I believe he'd have invented a time machine, just to come here & spit on himself. 🤣
he probably did say _ stop the fight - as many fighters have this passing thought... but look at what he actually - If you look at the footage Ali is slumped on his side in the corner waiting for the 15 round to start ...he was not fighting to stop the fight . In the 1st Liston fight he actually got up to leave the ring ( when he was blinded ) at one stage but was pushed back by Angelo ... and ended up wining the fight ... So just cause he said stop the fight - lets not put so much emphasis on that. Plus Frazier was loosing big time anyway
You are over generalizing Tell me a couple good things about his boxing. Was he slow? Give me your top 5 fighters Do not mention Ali Thank you I just want to know about your knowledge of boxing
I always felt the same way Howard felt about this. Smoking Joe helped Ali in so many ways when he was down and he was so ungrateful. He was so vile and evil towards Joe Frazier.
Love Joe no doubt that he is one of the best of all times but no need to bash Muhammad Ali like that. I prefer Ali no doubt but take nothing from Joe what a great fighter he was. RIP both legends
They have always told the side of Muhammad Ali but Joe's story was never told. I have seen time after time Ali making fun of Joe calling him dumb so many times. Joe tried to get along but Ali always tried to make Joe look bad. Finally Joe got that documentary telling his side for once.
I loved Joe, but let’s be clear…he lost two of three against Ali. For those who think Ali wouldn’t have come out for the 15th in Manila, stop. If he was going to quit, it would have been after round 10. Besides, Dundee would have shoved him out.
Obviously Ali was boxings golden boy and got the benefit of the doubt in any close rounds. Ali held Joe the 2nd fight. Only Ali would get away with it. I think it's 2 to 1 for Frasier. Ali was a great fighter but he never could beat Norton nor rematch Foreman.
Obviously Ali was boxings golden boy and got the benefit of the doubt in any close rounds. Ali held Joe the 2nd fight. Only Ali would get away with it. I think it's 2 to 1 for Frasier. Ali was a great fighter but he never could beat Norton nor rematch Foreman.
Ali went too far with the insults, however Ali was using gamesmanship over Frazier, which actually worked against Foreman. Ali was a clown, but Ali entertained the media, which brought excitement to boxing and that's why Ali brought Joe his biggest payday during that time period!
I don’t fault Ali any for his trash talk & Head games, as it is actually part of the fight & is a tool that is a legal tool [basically it doesn’t involve cheating to gain an edge] as Trash talk can be utilized to manipulate your opponents mentality which is the biggest weapon a person can have in a battle....... I don’t think any boxer/Fighter/MMA/Combat/Athlete(or any Competitive thing) , they shouldn’t be punished or judged for using the mental warfare but the point that they do have with Ali is the things they brought up that he did outside of the ring such as being an Ally with the Klan & his philanthropy in general, normal it shouldn’t matter as A lot of greats are crazy in general but Ali is looked at as this Legendary icon who stood up for injustice & is seen & heralded in the same way MLK is, when in reality Ali was actually detrimental in trying to have equality & love amoung all people here in the USA, which tends to happen a lot & a lot of times the people who actually do try to help are often labeled as a racist, but that’s all part of the propaganda machine
What he continuously said to Joe Frazier was way beyond sportsmanship. And I'm not sure it worked? He arguably lost twice. And I love Ali, the greatest.
While it certainly worked on Foreman, it totally backfired on Frazier. Ali taunts and mean spirited jibes generated such hatred, bitterness and betrayal in Frazier that spurred him on to efforts that he probably would not have been able to give, had he not had the emotional fire that was lit by Muhammad Ali in the most unfair way by misrepresenting him to the American public. During their fights, Joe went at him with such determination and fury, that no doubt did lasting damage, and more so than would have been otherwise had the buildup to the fight been less personal. Frazier was willing to die and go to the very limit of his endurance to punish Ali as much as he possibly could.
I appreciate the love that he gave joe all the credit he well deserved. But I don't like they way he spoken about ali, to say Ali can't say anything because he in lala land is fucked up.
I've never really liked Howard Stern, but he was absolutely correct describing Mr. Joe Frazier and he is still considered the champ to me. As for Robin, I've never liked her and everything is not that cookie cutter the way she explains her views about Joe Frazier and Ali. Joe Frazier was a man's man and yes, he was very loved by many people. Don't downplay his legacy like that ever! Rest in peace, Sir!
Howard was right about what he said about Ali, however that was young Ali. I hated Ali back then , then I ended up liking him later. To quote Ali " if you think the same at 20 as you do as 50 you just wasted 30 years". When I got older as well I've never seen an athlete give up his prime years for his beliefs. The government ruined Joe Louis when he was in the military doing boxing exhibitions all the money he donated to the war effort they decided he had to oay taxes on all the money he raised for the government. Then with Ali after he was originally 4f'd for the draft another typical Democrat lead administration screwed Ali and stripped him of his title.
Howard, you disrespected Ali. Ali loved Frazier like a brother. And I love Frazier, but Ali was a greater fighter. Both were Champions, and you need to respect that. RIP to both legends.
Howard remembers how Ali treated Fraizer. Joe supported Ali when he was ostracized. He gave Ali money when he was down and lobbied for Ali to fight again after his license was revoked. Muhammad Ali paid him back with vile. He disrespected Joe and turned black people against him.
@@gregoryillinivich5328 Yes he did because Joe Frazier was a threat . He apologized Joe Forgave him before he died . Marvis talks about it . Its on youtube Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier rivalry. I AM ALI
Muhammad Ali &. Joe Frazier are two great champions God bless both men....... Muhammad Ali 🥊 is a hero....Joe Frazier is also a hero... the real Greatest is the ALMIGHTY GOD...!!!!
You should watch the Muhammad Ali Documentary that was just released by Ken Burns! It was so much more complicated than a quick explanation! Howard is telling a lot of truth but there’s things he doesn’t know! Even Ali late in life knew that the two of the big mistakes he made in life, was the way he treated Joe and the way he kicked Malcolm X to the curb! He did a lot of those mean things because he was scared and that was his way of trying to convince himself but even after all the horrible things he said he would turn around and be one of the greatest guys in the world! So giving of his time and money. There was times while watching I loved him and then hated him but at the end after seeing his whole life, you realize he was once in a lifetime kind of guy and will be missed FOREVER. Ali was the greatest! But having said that Joe is also one of the BEST boxers too, he was a real class act!
Muhammad Ali talked the talk. Howard is so wrong. When it came down to it, Ali's favorite was Joe Frazier. He respected and loved his brother. Ali and Frazier two of the Greatest. Facts💯
If anyone was a traitor to his own people it was Ali, he courted favour from the white man and white media,while calling Frazier things like a gorilla.What a hypocrite.
@@shinybeast8946 This is an idiotic argument they both appeared on the same media, Frazier is appearing on a WHITE racist, bigoted, trashy shock jock's show on THIS video. You need your head examined. By your logic they must BOTH be hypocrites. Personally I don't think either of them were.
Howard is one of the very few people who disrespect Ali. Howard acts like he loves Joe but he hates Ali. Even Joe Jazier didn't agree what he said about Ali. ALI was the greatest of All the time. And we All know dat Joe frazier was a great and fine champion. People from whole world different colours, religion, races loved Ali too much and u can't change Howard. Everybody loved joe even Ali loved Joe. I didn't liked dat Ali named joe a Gorilla. But Sure Ali was the greatest.
@@rakim6466: His real birth given name by his parents is Cassius Marcellus Clay you doorknob. Muhammad Ali is his "pussy dodge the draft cause I'm now muslim" name. LOL. As for Cassius Clay being the greatest? That one takes the cake! LMFAO!!! Smokin'Joe > Cassius Clay. RIP Smokin' Joe.
I loved Joe Frazier, I was entertained by Muhammad Ali. And I love Stern for telling it like it is in this interview. He also degraded many of his guests in the past, before his now polished interview style and image. Muhammad Ali insulted everyone that he was going to fight but with Joe I don’t know why? He hit way below the belt like he never did with any other fighter or man? And I never understood why? Joe Frazier was handsome and pure class.
A simple man who does his talking with his fist. Real brother .
Legend
Well clearly not, he talked about Ali for so long after their careers. Ali only talked about Fraizer to promote the fight, in which Fraizer earned millions. He said after the Thrila in Manila that he was the greatest fighter ever next to me. Ali even apologized to Fraizer which he didn’t need to do, Ali talking like that made Fraizer rich.
Howard Stern giving Joe Frazier the credit Joe deserves. Thank you Howard.
Your right
Agreed, although Howard was way too into Joe's sex life questions but strangely only about Joe physically!
Absolutely!
I know people from Philadelphia that idolize a fictional boxer? Rocky!
But they have one of the greatest fighters of all time from their city and they don’t give a crap!?!?!?!? 🤯🤬
Horrible interview. Howard is really ignorant about a lot of things.
“Ali overrated as boxing ability, when he hit you it was like getting hit by a butterfly, When Joe Frazier hit you it was like getting hit by a bee.”
Larry Holmes
No two ways about it Ali's behaviour to joe was just wrong
Joe came up with the greatest performance on the most important night of the HW championship ever in March 8, 1971. Two undefeated champions (two of the best of all time) went at it and Joe emerged as champion.
Exactly! They can never take that away from him. Joe Frazier won one of the most important fights of all time and beat one the greatest fighters of all time. R.I.P. Joe
Glad Ali redeemed himself twice after the first fight
71 was absolutely peak frazier, I don't know of many who would of beat him that night.
@@sleazyfellow That left hook was a missile. Ali said that hook hit harder than any Foreman punch. That's huge props.
What a great man, smoking Joe🥊
Smokin’ Joe Frazier is my champ!!! I LOVE SMOKIN’ JOE FRAZIER!!!!!!! 🥊🥊
March 8th 1971 Joe Frazier was the Greatest Fighter who ever lived.
When ordinary people think *_BOXING_* ........ it’s a crime that Smokin’ Joe Frazier is not the first name that comes to mind.
It's not because he was in an era full of great talents. When you think Ali, you think Frazier, when you think Foreman, you think Ali. Those 3 were the top of the heap in a heavyweight division that hasn't been rivaled since. Closest it's got was in the 90s but in terms of quality it's nowhere near where it was then
@@sleazyfellow yeah Ali was the Better boxer when you have to pick one of those 3 to compete against each of the other 2 (Although I wish Foreman wouldn’t have taken that break cuz I believe he would have beaten Ali in a Rematch & he would have been labeled as the hands down best of the Era & You can Argue that Foreman was because he was able to become heavyweight champion as an old man[in boxing],..Ali wasn’t able to be a success like Foreman was later in his career (out of his prime) ......but when it come to Ali & Frazier I do think heads up, Smoking Joe Frazier is the slightly better than Ali..... but since Joe’s style & skill wasn’t conducive to fighting Foreman & he got completely beaten down so that’s why I say you wouldn’t pick him for a Tournament type with the 3 of those guys..... .. & it drives me absolutely Crazy when people say that a prime Ali would win vs a prime Tyson, [even Ali says Tyson would have destroyed him], Tyson was basically a quicker, Faster, Stronger, & more technical & Better defensive version of Joe Frazier, Ali couldn’t really handle Frazier & it took every ounce of his being to keep up & be awarded 2 razor close victories, Now imagine a way better version of Joe Frazier in every category (except for Maybe Heart), Everyone Says how fast Ali was But Tyson was faster than Ali & The Prime Tyson peek-a-Boo style would give Ali Such problems...... If you want to pick any of the past ALL-TIME Greats (at Heavyweight) who has the ability to be great in any Era, I would say it’s Foreman because he has such an incredible power in general & he has the height & potential to compete with anyone, All Tyson is a complete package too but against All Time great heavyweights (who have tremendous skill) his height disadvantage is an issue like vs Lewis, but I would have loved to see what Levels Tyson could have reached if he stayed completely dedicated & didn’t abuse his body, I Already think on his best day he beats all other Heavyweights on their best day....... the Guy who really has a chance to be the GOAT is Tyson Fury Cuz he has the size, skill, ability, & Heart of a Ali/Frazier, Vitaly Klitschko also was underrated but it’s hard to see where he stands among the Alltime greats Cuz he was awesome as well but the he didn’t necessarily have other greats to test him, Lewis wouldn’t Rematch him as Lewis knew Vitaly was better than him & Beating The Breaks off of Lewis & Lewis caught a lucky break when a cut forced a stoppage in a fight he was emphatically losing LOL I know I rambled 😂
When I hear Boxing I think Mayweather or Tyson
You make multiple questionable statements, too many to pick apart here but I will challenge one of them. You state (falsely) that the second fight vs Joe Frazier was “razor close”. This is not true. At the end of 12 rounds the judges scorecards read as follows: 7-4-1, 7-5 and 6-5-1. While the fight was close, it was certainly NOT “razor” close.
Sports Illustrated magazine wrote that Ali “easily” won the fight.
You say other things that are not backed up by facts but it would take too much time to take them all on here.
Be careful. Words matter.
Stay safe and enjoy the upcoming holiday season.
@@yourroyalhighness7662 ali the great clincher of all times
People do not readily know that while Ali was struggling after his license was striped he was unsuccessful running a burger joint and on Broadway The Champ (Frazier) dropped by to hand Ali cash to help him and his family along. The Champ also fought tirelessly and was instrumental in Ali getting his license back. Ali swore if The Champ beat him he would crawl across the ring and declare that The Champ (Frazier) was the greatest fighter ever. Not only did he brake his word, he attacked and attempted to humiliate Frazier. Joe Frazier is thE REAL
Yes but that’s just the type of nonsense someone speaks when they think it is impossible for them to lose, there was no weight behind his words!
@@Renwoxing13 There's trashtalking & then there is blatant cruelty, especially to your fellow brother who helped you & your family out when you were down & out. Sonny Liston & Frazier had it 10 times worse than Ali, when they grew up, and Ali basically gave MLK Jr. the middle finger when he asked Clay/Ali to join him in his Civil-Rights-Movement Protests. It was always about Ali and ironically the people and the religion that he sacrificed everything for, were essentially thugs & terrorists that preached death to the "Whites," and anyone that wouldn't convert to their radical religion which disrespected women. Elijah Muhammad created the Nation of Islam when he was locked up in prison & he fleeced Ali out of his earnings, almost as bad as his ex-wifes.
No way would a fighter really crawl across the ring and bow to another fighter, Ali was just talking crazy, that was Ali
To Cool Rush: I come from a place where we do what we say or we are considered STers. That’s not a thing to be proud of. Having said that anyone who was around for that fight or has seen that fight were treated to to Great Champions giving everything they had to win the WCship! Legendary fight, legendary Fighters, legendary time! God Bless the Lions!
Lol please ,that stuff is exaggerated about Joe and his license, he might well have said a few things but he didn't make a difference ,it was a politician in Atlanta he got him one ,which doesn't cover all states.stop making out that Joe was altruistic and selfless ,he needed Ali back because the majority didn't recognize him as the champ
Howard destroying robin in this. Love it
Nah
True Ali was so wrong in doing what he did to Frazier. I'm a white man but I know enough not to call a black person a gorilla or make fun of his nose & bigness of his lips. You don't do that!!!
@@patrickgray5633Y’all hung emmit till based off a lie , so words vs actual violence is severely outweighed.
Stern should stick to what he knows best. Pervertion...
Joe Frazier was a Philly great - I loved when Bill Burr rips the people of philly saying they have a boxing statue for a fictional hero - Rocky and yet don't even have one for their hero Joe Frazier!
I think Ali and Frazier have the same amount of streets named for them in Philadelphia. 1 each.
rocky movie is phillys most iconic movie
and fraizer has a street named after him
You know he’s a good man just based on his son
Frazier believed in morals and principles. That’s all you need to teach a child and he’ll grow up polite.
@@sanchez5963 lol...sure..thats why serial killers love their parents
@@jadezee6316 I don’t even know what that means let alone what I want to reply to it with.
Awfully awkward questions, Joe is great!
Its sad to realize he moved on from this earth 2 years after this interview
Thank you so much for giving Frazier the credit he deserves, he didnt get a cumb of Ali's fame, and he was indeed a better man than Ali just respectfully.
Fax
A lot that Howard is saying is true
Accept that he is thee greatest of all time.
Prove Ali was the greatest cause as soon as Joe sat down Howard started talkin about Ali.
@@rakim6466 “Muhammad Ali a great man but as far as boxing ability overrated, when Ali hit you it was like a butterfly when Frazier hit you it was like a bee.”
Larry Holmes
@@patrickgray5633 lol..so peanut head holmes is now the authority on who was the greatest?
i think i could find a 1000 boxing historians that would say otherwise....try it sometime, its called education....
@@jadezee6316 cause your opinion is worth more than Larry Holmes. GTFO here 🤡
This man is so great! R.I.P Joe. You are the true champion. He beat Ali in 71. He brought himself to an unstoppable force against the Greatest and Joe won. What a nice humble man.
The ali beat him twice after. respect to both these goats tho
Beat Ali by a knock down but got put in the hospital for thirty days😂😂 Frazier got punched around the ring by foreman yet Ali ate foreman up. Ali was too great
@@rakim6466 Ali,foreman, and frazier are all absolutely legends. Lets not disrespect. but Ali is the greatest in my eyes.
Ali's manager won the 3rd fight. Ali wanted to quit and Joe didn't want to quit. Eddie Futch threw in the towel and Ali wanted to throw in the towel.
@@williamfrawley1175 cmon u and I know Ali would have never quit like that. Go back to sleep
I agree with Howard on this.. Cassius clay was half the man Joe Frazier was..🤣
Nope.
And his name was Muhammad Ali.
You are a complete fool- with no respect - can’t even call
Him
By his name - screw you !!
Love Smokin Joe Frazier RIP a great champion & a man of honor.
Love joe R.I.P brother.
I really LOVE Smokin’ Joe Fazah, too, Paul Cooper! Smokin’ Joe is the real CHAMP!!!
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 He sure is.👍🥊
RIP Joe Frazier! Paul Cooper i see you everywhere :D god bless you bro :D
@@Diesel32 Thanks you too brother.👍
A Lot Of Truth Spoken About Ali And His Short Comings Very Good Interview!!!
Dude Marvis 😂😂😂 looks so uncomfortable 😂😂
@KesselRunHero that was almost murder
Honestly, he was thoroughly embarrassed.
At least he's awake here! He was asleep vs tyson
Joe Frazier never got the credit. God bless his family.
Good for Howard. Joe grew up in the same context Ali grew up in but unlike Ali, Joe acted honorably. Robin keeps making excuses for Ali for some reason.
RIP Smokin Joe you WON the third vs Ali
You don't win a fight sitting on your stool. Whether people think Ali wasn't getting up for the 15th round or not. Guaranteed he would have, he had too much guts and heart not to. And Ali won the first fight as well. No question.
I've never wanted to slap a woman before. Today is different
Facts
Facts
🤔 No, on second thought...
"I never wanted to slap a woman before. The day I was introduced to Robin Quivers was different."
*fixed
@@asicsjohnson real talk
Legend. Rip 🥊
Joe and Ali were two of the toughest men to ever box
Joe Frazier was a very likable person, impossible to say anything negative about him. RIP CHAMP!
Joe was a simple man and I mean that in a good way. I have learned to love Joe Frazier, a good man, person and human being. What Ali said about Joe over a period of 4 years was well beyond selling the 3 fights they had, Ali didn’t care how it effected Joe or his family, in fact - he wanted the reactions the derogatory comments brought. To me now looking back, it showed the fear Ali had of losing to Joe that he would say or do anything that may give him an edge in those fights. Whereas, Joe let his fists do his talking in the ring. I say this as a person who looked at Ali as a hero as I was growing up but, on reflection, I can now see the true hero in Joe Frazier. The person who over come physical disabilities, with a damaged left arm and nearly blind in one eye and yet went on to become “heavy weight champion “ of the world. Ali was special in lots of ways to lots of people, including me but, as a fighter and a selfless person - Joe stands head and shoulders above Ali to me. RIP Ali - Joe
Agreed, Joe should be ranked higher than Ali in my opinion. Joe beat him once and was leading on points in another-it was pure luck for Ali that Joe’s manager threw in the towel before Ali could
@@Ditka-89 what was lucky about it? He had lost sight in his one good eye. You cannot send the guy out there like that. They made a good call. If Joe had died that night, the corner would be under severe scrutiny. No doubt Joe was up there but Joe's only opportunity to win was Ali not getting up from his stool. Had Ali walked out there, it would've been a finish. Ali didn't wanna go back out there because he was being forced to work and was taking punishment. When he realised Joe couldn't see, I'm sure he wouldve been in better condition than Joe was. Great fight and great story but the best man won.
He hated and feared the fact Joe was a Real Threat!
@@Ditka-89 how should he be ranled higher than Ali? Ali had him stopped in the second fight and the ref gave a standing 8 count in about round 2 because Joe was getting his ass whooped. That fight wasnt even close. The 1st one was close and so was the 3rd fight. I dont remember Ali getting absolutely obliterated by Foreman in 2 fights in a row. Frazier was 1 of 2 of Ali's toughest opponents but never ever on any planet better than him.
He shouldn't be ranked over Ali, that's absurd. However he was completely wrong for that.
Do you guys know if the taunting was the same thoughout the 3 fights?
This is the howard I like.
They can still make a damn good interview
@James Williams No shit! If 1998, like, Private Parts-era Howard could've seen what 2020 Howard would become? I believe he'd have invented a time machine, just to come here & spit on himself. 🤣
He dresses like he has no money. Haha the first 15 minutes is epic
R I P Joe Frazier
Joe had made some peace with ali at that point in his life and didn't want to beat on ali to much
I wish Robin would’ve called in sick on this day. Sheesh...it’s impossible to hear Joe’s answers while she’s defending Ali all the time.
Talentless bigmouth. Her voice sickens me.
You wish you had called in because she speaking the truth and facts Howard Stern's speaking pure bs!!
@@sinbad4887 and you'd know more that Joe Frazier ? Because of a few youtube videos ? Right right
I wonder how much of Ali's and Joe's brain damage was caused by their brutal fight in Manila.
Howard is spot on here. Especially the part about Ali's image being whitewashed to make him seem like a saint.
The Legend!!!!! Joe!!!!!!!!
I smoke on the mic like "Smokin' Joe" Frazier //
The hell raiser, raisin' hell with the flavor
R.I.P SMOKIN JOE FRAZIER
That's the gayest thing I have ever heard
@@beet1508 not knowing inspecktah decks lyrics is beyond homosexual.
@@beet1508 it's better then your lame comment....
Robin fishing for answers to fit her narrative.
15:01 Joe Frazier on Howard (2009)
Thank you because I couldn’t stand another second of listening to that dumb chick Robin. 🤦🏾♀️
Poor Marvin listening to this.
“Read what I say in my boook “ !! LMOA
SMOKEING Joe Frazier 🥊
10 times the man.. exactly! Joe is classy
Nope, Ali the greatest! Sony might be great but he will leave in 8, if he wants to go to heaven I'll get I'm in 7
he probably did say _ stop the fight - as many fighters have this passing thought... but look at what he actually - If you look at the footage Ali is slumped on his side in the corner waiting for the 15 round to start ...he was not fighting to stop the fight .
In the 1st Liston fight he actually got up to leave the ring ( when he was blinded ) at one stage but was pushed back by Angelo ... and ended up wining the fight ... So just cause he said stop the fight - lets not put so much emphasis on that. Plus Frazier was loosing big time anyway
Howard always has to be inflammatory 🤣
5:43 *WTF* 😡🥊…
Robbin claiming ali came on to here when she was begging for a picture 😂😂😭😭
What kinda fighter holds onto his opponents all the fight. What kinda fighter sits on the ropes and dubs himself the “Greatest”?
Ur a fool. U know Ali is thee Greatest😂😂
You are over generalizing
Tell me a couple good things about his boxing. Was he slow?
Give me your top 5 fighters
Do not mention Ali
Thank you
I just want to know about your knowledge of boxing
Thank you for speaking the truth!
Yo im dead. When Robin starts chompin at the bit and Howard Stern says “oh boy” @ 7:08. 💀
I always felt the same way Howard felt about this. Smoking Joe helped Ali in so many ways when he was down and he was so ungrateful. He was so vile and evil towards Joe Frazier.
I love this man!
Howard interviewing Ali in the 70S ? Sorry Howard.
Oh man do I miss classic Stern
Love Joe no doubt that he is one of the best of all times but no need to bash Muhammad Ali like that. I prefer Ali no doubt but take nothing from Joe what a great fighter he was. RIP both legends
The bashing wasn’t necessary but there is some truth to what he says
That wasn't bashing, it was just truth.
They have always told the side of Muhammad Ali but Joe's story was never told. I have seen time after time Ali making fun of Joe calling him dumb so many times. Joe tried to get along but Ali always tried to make Joe look bad. Finally Joe got that documentary telling his side for once.
Robin was also right on Howard not being qualified to really speak on such touchy subject matter..you know several times in black face Howie
I agree with Robin at the beginning. Hows she supposed to feel? Is she supposed to forget her own experience just to follow a popular narrative?
I loved Joe, but let’s be clear…he lost two of three against Ali. For those who think Ali wouldn’t have come out for the 15th in Manila, stop. If he was going to quit, it would have been after round 10. Besides, Dundee would have shoved him out.
Joe wasn’t ahead on the scorecards. Ali was by a slight margin after the twelve round.
Obviously Ali was boxings golden boy and got the benefit of the doubt in any close rounds. Ali held Joe the 2nd fight. Only Ali would get away with it. I think it's 2 to 1 for Frasier. Ali was a great fighter but he never could beat Norton nor rematch Foreman.
Obviously Ali was boxings golden boy and got the benefit of the doubt in any close rounds. Ali held Joe the 2nd fight. Only Ali would get away with it. I think it's 2 to 1 for Frasier. Ali was a great fighter but he never could beat Norton nor rematch Foreman.
the viagra conversation was epic
25:10 If Howard Cossell was interviewing Ali like that, he would say what are you trying to do agitate???
Ali went too far with the insults, however Ali was using gamesmanship over Frazier, which actually worked against Foreman. Ali was a clown, but Ali entertained the media, which brought excitement to boxing and that's why Ali brought Joe his biggest payday during that time period!
I don’t fault Ali any for his trash talk & Head games, as it is actually part of the fight & is a tool that is a legal tool [basically it doesn’t involve cheating to gain an edge] as Trash talk can be utilized to manipulate your opponents mentality which is the biggest weapon a person can have in a battle....... I don’t think any boxer/Fighter/MMA/Combat/Athlete(or any Competitive thing) , they shouldn’t be punished or judged for using the mental warfare but the point that they do have with Ali is the things they brought up that he did outside of the ring such as being an Ally with the Klan & his philanthropy in general, normal it shouldn’t matter as A lot of greats are crazy in general but Ali is looked at as this Legendary icon who stood up for injustice & is seen & heralded in the same way MLK is, when in reality Ali was actually detrimental in trying to have equality & love amoung all people here in the USA, which tends to happen a lot & a lot of times the people who actually do try to help are often labeled as a racist, but that’s all part of the propaganda machine
Your right. It was about getting in their head..it worked
What he continuously said to Joe Frazier was way beyond sportsmanship. And I'm not sure it worked? He arguably lost twice.
And I love Ali, the greatest.
While it certainly worked on Foreman, it totally backfired on Frazier. Ali taunts and mean spirited jibes generated such hatred, bitterness and betrayal in Frazier that spurred him on to efforts that he probably would not have been able to give, had he not had the emotional fire that was lit by Muhammad Ali in the most unfair way by misrepresenting him to the American public.
During their fights, Joe went at him with such determination and fury, that no doubt did lasting damage, and more so than would have been otherwise had the buildup to the fight been less personal. Frazier was willing to die and go to the very limit of his endurance to punish Ali as much as he possibly could.
" happy birthday 🎂 " 😆 🤣 😂 😂😂😂
"Light, bright, damn near white". Haha always had to chuckle when Joe said that. Also I always respected Howard for liking Joe more than Ali.
you know joe is the truth when robin resists howards spiel about the champ and ali.
I appreciate the love that he gave joe all the credit he well deserved. But I don't like they way he spoken about ali, to say Ali can't say anything because he in lala land is fucked up.
Howard Stern is totally embarrassing and inappropriate while talking to a dignified Joe Frazier. Cringeworthy throughout!
All 3 fights were close. And the first fight was the best. No way Ali quits on his stool before the 15th round. Thats nonsense.
I've never really liked Howard Stern, but he was absolutely correct describing Mr. Joe Frazier and he is still considered the champ to me. As for Robin, I've never liked her and everything is not that cookie cutter the way she explains her views about Joe Frazier and Ali. Joe Frazier was a man's man and yes, he was very loved by many people. Don't downplay his legacy like that ever! Rest in peace, Sir!
What a find here 😲
Joe best legacy = Family man
1967 ali had the stamina to stay away from joe for most part but not in 70s. Frazier was one of toughest sobs ever
Howard was right about what he said about Ali, however that was young Ali. I hated Ali back then , then I ended up liking him later. To quote Ali " if you think the same at 20 as you do as 50 you just wasted 30 years".
When I got older as well I've never seen an athlete give up his prime years for his beliefs.
The government ruined Joe Louis when he was in the military doing boxing exhibitions all the money he donated to the war effort they decided he had to oay taxes on all the money he raised for the government. Then with Ali after he was originally 4f'd for the draft another typical Democrat lead administration screwed Ali and stripped him of his title.
Ali went too far with joe, called him the worst, an '' uncle tom ''.
"Still Smoking!!!!!"
Stern a phoney, if he was interviewing Ali he'd be kissing butt
Ali sold tickets with the shucking and jiving put ass in the seats they were both great for boxing god bless smokin joe
Howard, you disrespected Ali.
Ali loved Frazier like a brother. And I love Frazier, but Ali was a greater fighter. Both were Champions, and you need to respect that.
RIP to both legends.
If god ever calls me to a Holly war I want jo Frazier on my side “ Mohammad Ali
Howard remembers how Ali treated Fraizer. Joe supported Ali when he was ostracized. He gave Ali money when he was down and lobbied for Ali to fight again after his license was revoked. Muhammad Ali paid him back with vile. He disrespected Joe and turned black people against him.
@@gregoryillinivich5328 Yes he did because Joe Frazier was a threat . He apologized Joe Forgave him before he died . Marvis talks about it . Its on youtube Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier rivalry. I AM ALI
He was only telling the truth about what Clay did.
Top 10 boxers and Frazer not in the mix. Ali! Ali! Rumble young man Rumble.
Joe was a class act and a great representation of the Heavyweight Champion ....and Marvis a true gentleman. Howard talks alot of garbage.
"how you feelin joe?"....baw za wa..e ahh all datime...za e o k
"When you hit Joe Frazier he liked it."
George Foreman
Muhammad Ali &. Joe Frazier are two great champions God bless both men....... Muhammad Ali 🥊 is a hero....Joe Frazier is also a hero... the real Greatest is the ALMIGHTY GOD...!!!!
Agree 100% with Howard.
Howard doing the same thing to Trump as Ali did to Frazier. Howard turned into a big dummy.
Robin was mad annoying as usual.
@@StandupShowcase she looked just as good in 2009 as she did 1999. Just older.
"..... robin, stay in 'yo lane!"
She knows what she's talking about this time
Long live Smokin Joe 💪
You should watch the Muhammad Ali
Documentary that was just released by Ken Burns! It was so much more complicated than a quick explanation!
Howard is telling a lot of truth but there’s things he doesn’t know!
Even Ali late in life knew that the two of the big mistakes he made in life, was the way he treated Joe and the way he kicked Malcolm X to the curb!
He did a lot of those mean things because he was scared and that was his way of trying to convince himself but even after all the horrible things he said he would turn around and be one of the greatest guys in the world! So giving of his time and money.
There was times while watching I loved him and then hated him but at the end after seeing his whole life, you realize he was once in a lifetime kind of guy and will be missed FOREVER.
Ali was the greatest!
But having said that Joe is also one of the BEST boxers too, he was a real class act!
Maybe survival mode and it is built into you genes
Muhammad Ali talked the talk. Howard is so wrong. When it came down to it, Ali's favorite was Joe Frazier. He respected and loved his brother. Ali and Frazier two of the Greatest. Facts💯
If anyone was a traitor to his own people it was Ali, he courted favour from the white man and white media,while calling Frazier things like a gorilla.What a hypocrite.
@@shinybeast8946 He didn’t screw white girls, did he?
@@shinybeast8946 This is an idiotic argument they both appeared on the same media, Frazier is appearing on a WHITE racist, bigoted, trashy shock jock's show on THIS video. You need your head examined. By your logic they must BOTH be hypocrites. Personally I don't think either of them were.
Howard is one of the very few people who disrespect Ali. Howard acts like he loves Joe but he hates Ali. Even Joe Jazier didn't agree what he said about Ali. ALI was the greatest of All the time. And we All know dat Joe frazier was a great and fine champion. People from whole world different colours, religion, races loved Ali too much and u can't change Howard. Everybody loved joe even Ali loved Joe. I didn't liked dat Ali named joe a Gorilla. But Sure Ali was the greatest.
Marvin was such a siff neck
Joe reminds me of my father in law.
What was Frazier doing the Howard Stern show, anyway?
Smokin' Joe > Cassius Clay.
RIP Smokin' Joe....
Call the man by his name idiot his name is Muhammad Ali. Yall hate eem cause he is the greatest😂😂😂
@@rakim6466: His real birth given name by his parents is Cassius Marcellus Clay you doorknob. Muhammad Ali is his "pussy dodge the draft cause I'm now muslim" name. LOL. As for Cassius Clay being the greatest? That one takes the cake! LMFAO!!! Smokin'Joe > Cassius Clay. RIP Smokin' Joe.
Wow robin surprised me.. 👏🏽👍🏽
Hilariously entertaining video..loved it
The lady should be a bit quieter. Let uncle joe talk easily.
Nice thank You & I try to do my part with Stern Uploads but I only got Audio no vid lol
I loved Joe Frazier, I was entertained by Muhammad Ali. And I love Stern for telling it like it is in this interview. He also degraded many of his guests in the past, before his now polished interview style and image. Muhammad Ali insulted everyone that he was going to fight but with Joe I don’t know why? He hit way below the belt like he never did with any other fighter or man? And I never understood why? Joe Frazier was handsome and pure class.