We can all say one was this, the other was that, or one’s better.... but BOTH these guys were proper hard men, that 99.9% of fellas would get knocked the fuck out by....
@@karld83 That is very true but if you do use a football to throw in to the tree in order to try and free your kite, the ball may then become stuck as well, leaving you with no ball or kite!
Roy took 31 heavy blows to the head just before the first knock down. Then some how got back up to take some more off Lenny. He's a braver man than 99.99% of the world because there isn't even many would step into the ring with an animal like a prime Lenny. Fack that.
@@michaelb4538 God take your Lenny Posters down from your bedroom wall mate, he got done loads of times over the years, Shaw even did him as well but you are right, Shaw took a battering and still stood up when almost everyone would have been dead
@@chooselife5863 I think you need to do some research pal ..your ignorance isn't my fault ..it's yours..even his own daughter said she was scared of him because of his violent outbursts at home..roy shore himself has said multiple times len was a bully. He beat his own friend half to death over a disagreement ..I'm sure he had his nice side .but the guy was unhinged .and his book was written by him .he lost many fights yet he says he lost none ..so incredibly bias..frank warren also said he was a terrible bully ..
@@hotpotat0es Frank talks absolute waffle. Lens daughter loves him dearly regardless of his outbursts. She's already forgiven him and knows he was like that because of his stepdads beating. Try harder.
@@chooselife5863 I never said she hadn't forgive him .what part of she was scared of his violent outbursts don't you get ..yeh everyone's lying about him .but you knew him personally..jeeze the level of logic you have is none existent..lol yeh violent outbursts in front of your family isnt bullying ..and Roy Shaw is lying because unlike you, knew him well .I'm sure his mate enjoyed getting beaten to a pulp ..I'm sure you would av been there to lick his ar.e clean fanboy..until you said summat that he didn't like and he ran over your head .violent men are so wonderful arnt they fangirl...ooooooh big violent men ooooh lol
djsuploaded no it's not Lenny bashed people who recorded it like the other 6 times he got knocked out fuckin useless he was in the ring and only bashed young lads on street he never had one bare knuckle fights on USA he was a liar bully hated he was hated
Insane crazy shocking Bruce lee He bashed Roy Shaw twice so I wouldn't say he was useless. I bet he would have bashed you too so give over talking shit about him.
MegaScumbucket shaw was 16 yrs older much smaller & 3st lighter the only name Lenny beat ..believe me McLean was just a bully who made his own myth all he done was terrorise people he knew he could beat , he was hated around hoxton absolutely hated because he was a horrible nasty bully ..he beat no one with a a name his book is myth I know because I used to live in hoxton ..he would start on anyone even if you looked at him for 2-3 seconds he would just come over and hit you ..many were glad when he died .
Watch the documentary on Netflix about him, his son presents him. I was a fan of lenny until his son unearthed a few truths about him. Shame but he was bully.
Can you do me a favour mate and block all the trolls who keep writing shit about Lenny and Roy and the likes, saying they are other people and its all a cover up. It really spoils the enjoyment of the great Vids when these muppets start commenting, cheers,am sure everyone feels the same
stevey w get a grip McLean was a horrible bully hated around hoxton ..Shaw half his size 3st lighter and 42 to lennys 26 haha Guvnor my arse a self made myth full of shit like his book
Lenny was 13yrs younger than Roy n both where Good Men in their own way yet both where called bullets usually by people who had acted the big I am then got punched on the hooter
Roy won the first fight, destroyed lenny! After the 3rd roy wanted another fight but lenny said he was to old🤣...lenny was the same age as roy in the 1st fight. Roy shaw all the way!!!
He,d already batterd shawry twice Roy weren't a fine wine son Lenny had blown up a bit and probably damage Roy really damage him love em both but cmon best part of 15 years between em and by the 5,6 stone ffs cmon!%%%
@@jamieoliver3262 roy won the first fight? Its not a secret mate. He got destroyed in the second & 3rd. Still wanted lenny at his ripe age of 43. Lenny was 29 & too old🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 come on son!!
@@ba-doubble5199 he,d already put him away twice at 15 stone never mind 18,19 stone and after 35 years old your not getting any better ffs as I've said before Roy didn't need any of it sometimes a bulldog needs raining in for it's own good both legends but Roy didn't need anymore lenny !%%%
Until he suffered his usual prominent eyebrow cut, 13 stone 13 lbs Henry Cooper battered Ali for 6 rounds each in both their 2 fights. In the first fight, Henry knocked Ali flat on his back completely dazed, from a single left hook. Something that no one else did before or since. & he was only saved from a certain knockout because the punch came in the last 10 seconds of the round. My point, is that there are no certainties or guarantees in fights, or in life. No one expected Buster Douglas to bring the fight of his life after his mother's death, & knock out Mike Tyson. Was Tyson a streak of piss too? In life, sometimes we are the dog, sometimes we are the lamppost.
Well it's very possible, after watching the way Roy was lumbering around in that ring it did look very suspicious to be honest, he did look very sluggish and not in focus at all
@@5eurocups2005 up to a point. It doesn’t matter how fit you are at 42, your reactions are still going to be a fraction of a second slower than when you’re in your 20s And that fraction of a second in boxing can make all the difference Not my words, Muhammad Ali’s
Read all their books, but I couldn't help but think what would someoneone like Bas Rutten would do to these two lol. And he was full power bareknuckle (what gloves in 90s pancrase?)
My dad John beat both of these, Lenny wouldn't let my dad in a club so my dad headbutted him and knocked him out, My dad beat Roy Shaw up in bethnel green ,
Bygone selector is the best he beat zelenoff shaw and lenny on the same morning before his breakfast then had a stella a smoke and a shit and he was only 14 months old wait til hes 6 hes gonna beat everyone...
Why wasn't Lenny a real pro like Frank Bruno Mike Tyson etc? Was it due to criminal convictions that prevented him from fighting pro? He looks a right hard bastard but looks can be deceiving.
Just-ice in my uneducated assessment Lenny was not a good boxer, you can see in his unlicensed fight with shaw where he was all arms, just a big powerful dude, probably like all the tough dudes where I grew up. They were dangerous people that had no boundaries and had a inflated reputation, but as fighting goes actually not that good tbh. What I mean is, if you took away the fear of repercussions there are a lot better fighters out there that would/will make all the “hard men” look pretty normal
+tatchy1001 Roy won the first one didn't he? And as far as I'm aware, in the second, Roy was 42 and Mclean was 28 or 29....not saying the result would have been different had Roy been younger, but who knows.
Lenny was a thug Roy was a real hard Man Lenny the big goon was jealous of Roy Shaw , Ha and with a name like Shaw and a Face like his in all honesty what was Roy's heritage
@@raleighburner1589 your opinion is good by me m8 that's what it's all about. I watched some of Roy Shaw's stuff he was a dangerous man no doubt about it.
What he took was a right hander 😂😂😂
Fucking brilliant comment that. I was roaring 😂
This was 1978, McLean was 29 and Shaw 42 years old.
Yeah right that's a factor good to know
Correct.But didnt Shaw knock MClean out in the first fight?
What does age have to do if he's in shape willing and of sound and signed the contract he can be 82
Roy Shaw 42 crazy big difference fair play to Roy
Literally defined talking like a Boss
We can all say one was this, the other was that, or one’s better.... but BOTH these guys were proper hard men, that 99.9% of fellas would get knocked the fuck out by....
All i can say is, shut up you tart
@@Jessebella1 all I can say is there's more than one way to skin a cat.. But why would you want to? Strange saying that...
@@karld83 I dunno but why would you use anything other than Daz washing up powder after all those adverts?
Talk sense man, wtf
@@Jessebella1 the daz doorstep challenge was surprisingly easy and not a challenge at all...but the advert was there to distort the truth
@@karld83 That is very true but if you do use a football to throw in to the tree in order to try and free your kite, the ball may then become stuck as well, leaving you with no ball or kite!
Why they didn't make a movie about his life before now is surprising, he was definitely larger than life character.
A bully?
He was a notorious bully. He was a nightmare in his local .even his own daughter was scared of his violent outbursts..
Movie about who? They have about Lenny. Not sure about shaw
@@dee_-_The Lenny McLean film was horrible though. Even though his Family signed off on it it was terrible.
@@keepitreal897Wrong, he only bullied people taking a liberty.
As a educated man. Len did him with terrible heartburn or indigestion.
Lenny was quite a bit bigger than Roy as well ... he totally destroyed Shaw in the 3rd fight.
The Velo In The Vale much bigger and younger. Massive mismatch.
Roy took 31 heavy blows to the head just before the first knock down. Then some how got back up to take some more off Lenny.
He's a braver man than 99.99% of the world because there isn't even many would step into the ring with an animal like a prime Lenny. Fack that.
@@michaelb4538 God take your Lenny Posters down from your bedroom wall mate, he got done loads of times over the years, Shaw even did him as well but you are right, Shaw took a battering and still stood up when almost everyone would have been dead
For me Lenny was the best 👌GUVNOR R.I.P
Lenny the real deal rip legend
Rip ..notorious unhinged bully..do some research .
@@hotpotat0escry about it puff
@@hotpotat0esWrong, he only bullied people taking a liberty.
@@chooselife5863 ask Frank warren ,Roy Shaw, his own friend who he battered ..his own daughter .who was scared of his violent outbursts ..
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All he took was a right hander 😂😂😂
How old is Lenny there? 15, 16?
😂😂
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Late 20’s
1978 so Lenny was 29 years old. Roy Shaw was 42.
lol shaw said he had too much herble tea...😂..more like 2 much fist 2 the face...lenny was the real hard man..
Roy battered him in the first fight
@@3socksmorgan485didn’t in the two others though did he
Love this man
Yeh no one else did .. notorious bully and unhinged .do some research
@@hotpotat0esYou're talking absolute bollocks. Len only bullied people taking a liberty.
@@chooselife5863 I think you need to do some research pal ..your ignorance isn't my fault ..it's yours..even his own daughter said she was scared of him because of his violent outbursts at home..roy shore himself has said multiple times len was a bully. He beat his own friend half to death over a disagreement ..I'm sure he had his nice side .but the guy was unhinged .and his book was written by him .he lost many fights yet he says he lost none ..so incredibly bias..frank warren also said he was a terrible bully ..
@@hotpotat0es Frank talks absolute waffle. Lens daughter loves him dearly regardless of his outbursts. She's already forgiven him and knows he was like that because of his stepdads beating. Try harder.
@@chooselife5863 I never said she hadn't forgive him .what part of she was scared of his violent outbursts don't you get ..yeh everyone's lying about him .but you knew him personally..jeeze the level of logic you have is none existent..lol yeh violent outbursts in front of your family isnt bullying ..and Roy Shaw is lying because unlike you, knew him well .I'm sure his mate enjoyed getting beaten to a pulp ..I'm sure you would av been there to lick his ar.e clean fanboy..until you said summat that he didn't like and he ran over your head .violent men are so wonderful arnt they fangirl...ooooooh big violent men ooooh lol
Would love to see the first fight. I have never seen lenny lose before. If anyone has a link it would be much appreciated.
I think if any film exists it is missing.
It’s on his documentary on Netflix.
djsuploaded no it's not Lenny bashed people who recorded it like the other 6 times he got knocked out fuckin useless he was in the ring and only bashed young lads on street he never had one bare knuckle fights on USA he was a liar bully hated he was hated
Insane crazy shocking Bruce lee He bashed Roy Shaw twice so I wouldn't say he was useless. I bet he would have bashed you too so give over talking shit about him.
MegaScumbucket shaw was 16 yrs older much smaller & 3st lighter the only name Lenny beat ..believe me McLean was just a bully who made his own myth all he done was terrorise people he knew he could beat , he was hated around hoxton absolutely hated because he was a horrible nasty bully ..he beat no one with a a name his book is myth I know because I used to live in hoxton ..he would start on anyone even if you looked at him for 2-3 seconds he would just come over and hit you ..many were glad when he died .
Great clip
Roy Shaw = will Ferrell.
You were a shit idea.
LOL its the eyes.
😂😂
Roy couldn’t possibly beat Len, far too big and strong, that’s why we have weight divisions
Roy won their first fight
Lenny is the man
Lenny was the Guvnor 🇬🇧🙏
Its good to see muppets knock each other out
0:54 When someone burps while they are making that statement that Lenny made, they must mean business :-))))
Great interview. I wish there was an English language version.
Lenny is the real thing, not like those other cockney twins
Unfortunately he was a massive bully
What the hell do you no ??? I’ve heard from numerous people from the area that he was .. type in frank warren on Lenny and see what he says u cock
And the krays wernt gangsters !! It’s been known that they had dealing with young boys .. so you need your head checked if you praise them
Watch the documentary on Netflix about him, his son presents him. I was a fan of lenny until his son unearthed a few truths about him. Shame but he was bully.
Can you do me a favour mate and block all the trolls who keep writing shit about Lenny and Roy and the likes, saying they are other people and its all a cover up. It really spoils the enjoyment of the great Vids when these muppets start commenting, cheers,am sure everyone feels the same
stevey w well said mate I fully agree their morons n attention seeking idiots
Don't read there stupid suff then.
stevey w get a grip McLean was a horrible bully hated around hoxton ..Shaw half his size 3st lighter and 42 to lennys 26 haha Guvnor my arse a self made myth full of shit like his book
Lenny was 13yrs younger than Roy n both where Good Men in their own way yet both where called bullets usually by people who had acted the big I am then got punched on the hooter
stevey w tart
He was a boss ❤
Paul Sykes beat Shaw twice in Prison
Says who ?
Rubbish!
@@superflyjimmysnucka9068no haha hull jail roy even said himself Paul was just too big for him. Hahahah
Roy won the first fight, destroyed lenny! After the 3rd roy wanted another fight but lenny said he was to old🤣...lenny was the same age as roy in the 1st fight. Roy shaw all the way!!!
He,d already batterd shawry twice Roy weren't a fine wine son Lenny had blown up a bit and probably damage Roy really damage him love em both but cmon best part of 15 years between em and by the 5,6 stone ffs cmon!%%%
@@jamieoliver3262 roy won the first fight? Its not a secret mate. He got destroyed in the second & 3rd. Still wanted lenny at his ripe age of 43. Lenny was 29 & too old🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 come on son!!
@@ba-doubble5199 he,d already put him away twice at 15 stone never mind 18,19 stone and after 35 years old your not getting any better ffs as I've said before Roy didn't need any of it sometimes a bulldog needs raining in for it's own good both legends but Roy didn't need anymore lenny !%%%
@@ba-doubble5199 think u crossed wires pal !%%%
@@jamieoliver3262 ok 😂 lenny won them all
Hi im your new nabour lol
Lennie was only in his early 30’s here,looked shocking
he looks pretty young wdym
29
People did back then. The smoked like chimneys from the age of eleven
@@ColmPadraigI did exactly the same and I'm older than Lenny was when he passed away. He did appear older than his years.
Lenny Vs Neddy Smith , that would have been a good scrap
Proper men.
Lenny got beat twice by cliff fields he never mentions that yet paul sykes knocked fields out sykes would of battered him
in a ring yes no way on the street theres a big difference i remember people saying sykes couldve beat Bruno really??? lol
The only man in history to swim the straight of jaho as well wasn't he? Same day he beat cliff field up no doubt haha fantasy Island 😂
@@andrewatkin2629 yeah and was scrapping with sharks as well. 😆
Until he suffered his usual prominent eyebrow cut, 13 stone 13 lbs Henry Cooper battered Ali for 6 rounds each in both their 2 fights. In the first fight, Henry knocked Ali flat on his back completely dazed, from a single left hook. Something that no one else did before or since. & he was only saved from a certain knockout because the punch came in the last 10 seconds of the round. My point, is that there are no certainties or guarantees in fights, or in life. No one expected Buster Douglas to bring the fight of his life after his mother's death, & knock out Mike Tyson. Was Tyson a streak of piss too? In life, sometimes we are the dog, sometimes we are the lamppost.
@@hiyadroogs that's a very insightful comment , sometimes the dog sometimes the lampost" they should put that on a T-shirt 👍
proper tough guys, dont know if its true but i heared shaw was drugged in one of the fights? anyone else heared this?
FastPuma very likely
Well it's very possible, after watching the way Roy was lumbering around in that ring it did look very suspicious to be honest, he did look very sluggish and not in focus at all
He said he Overdosed on ginseng 😂
age difference must have been a factor
Yes there was a difference I agree but 29 and 42 isn't that bad of an age gap, you should be still fit and strong at 42.
@@5eurocups2005 up to a point. It doesn’t matter how fit you are at 42, your reactions are still going to be a fraction of a second slower than when you’re in your 20s
And that fraction of a second in boxing can make all the difference
Not my words, Muhammad Ali’s
Are there any videos of Lenny getting beat
No because they don't want you to see he's a bum with 0 skill
Read all their books, but I couldn't help but think what would someoneone like Bas Rutten would do to these two lol. And he was full power bareknuckle (what gloves in 90s pancrase?)
My dad John beat both of these,
Lenny wouldn't let my dad in a club so my dad headbutted him and knocked him out,
My dad beat Roy Shaw up in bethnel green ,
My dads Bruce lee
@@Libertine700 no he wasn't, more like Christopher Lee,
My dad John beat up lenny
@@tysonfury2380 lol
My dad beat up all your mums and dads, my dad was captain Morgan
@@tysonfury2380 Lenny Henry?
Who was the best tho....
Cliff Field. Did Lenny twice and Shaw wouldn't go near him!
I am the best end of
Bygone selector is the best he beat zelenoff shaw and lenny on the same morning before his breakfast then had a stella a smoke and a shit and he was only 14 months old wait til hes 6 hes gonna beat everyone...
Why wasn't Lenny a real pro like Frank Bruno Mike Tyson etc? Was it due to criminal convictions that prevented him from fighting pro? He looks a right hard bastard but looks can be deceiving.
He wasnt good enough to be a boxer streets abit different tho
Because he's a bum who got ko'ed by bums imagine what a pro boxer would have done to him
Just-ice in my uneducated assessment Lenny was not a good boxer, you can see in his unlicensed fight with shaw where he was all arms, just a big powerful dude, probably like all the tough dudes where I grew up. They were dangerous people that had no boundaries and had a inflated reputation, but as fighting goes actually not that good tbh.
What I mean is, if you took away the fear of repercussions there are a lot better fighters out there that would/will make all the “hard men” look pretty normal
Probably because he was a crap boxer...being a tough bully doesn't mean you can make it in a boxing ring
They would not give him a licence to box
McLean was 10 of shaw...everyone knew it...
there's 50% off people that will disagree with ya lol
+ldnhammer what was the result of each of their 3 fights again?
+tatchy1001 Roy won the first one didn't he? And as far as I'm aware, in the second, Roy was 42 and Mclean was 28 or 29....not saying the result would have been different had Roy been younger, but who knows.
Yes Shaw won the first through a Mclean submission which he later claimed was due to something being wrong with his gloves.
+tatchy1001 send me the link where lenny admitted defeat by Roy Shaw.............
I know a man aka Baba Yaga, aka Keyser Soze, aka Thannos. You probably know him by his Christian name, Ronnie Pickering ... I rest my case!
Hmm?
Everyone knew Lenny was tough but he would admit he'd run a mile if Ronnie Pickering came after him!
th-cam.com/video/i6NtXKE7yn0/w-d-xo.html
*Ronnie pickering fighting*
Bullshit anyone in the topp 10 in Britain would chim em as Leenny found out in Canada John Tate 1 round I know my boxing history
the guv
Lenny was a thug Roy was a real hard Man Lenny the big goon was jealous of Roy Shaw , Ha and with a name like Shaw and a Face like his in all honesty what was Roy's heritage
Lenny battered Shaw! Twice! He went down like Norman wisdom on Valium .. and blamed it on ginseng 😂 embarrassing
@@andrewatkin2629 a year later ...wow ..anyhow Roy was four stone lighter and 4 inches shorter
@@raleighburner1589 just seen it m8 , better late than never I love the old stuff. A good biggen usually beats a good small one
@@andrewatkin2629 nice one kid peace bro ..but Roy Shaw was harder. ..pound for pound ...
@@raleighburner1589 your opinion is good by me m8 that's what it's all about. I watched some of Roy Shaw's stuff he was a dangerous man no doubt about it.
Shaw smashed him in the first bout