Biff went from being a measly upper middle management employee to a self-employed owner of an auto detailing business. Yes small business, but still his own boss
I like the theory that Biff recognized that Marty was Calvin Klein and had ingratiated himself to the McFly family to figure out the mystery. He had all the pieces, but it didn't come together until he was an old man. In his own rudimentary way, he intuited time warfare and managed to checkmate two timetravellers without prior knowledge of time travel or owning a time machine.
exactly it was odd that he gave Marty extra attention as soon as he came back. for George and Lorraine, it makes sense that they wouldn't recognize him as Calvin; considering George thanked "Marty" at the end of the film. he likely just thought it was a lost McFly (bc Martin and Seamus are Marty's namesake) but for biff he would have a decent idea and wouldn't have much of a picture of Marty growing up, he would recognize Calvin Klein once he reached the age and then for the week or two Marty was gone, that's when he realized something was up
Old Biff had certainly wised up over the years.He did pretty well to put 2 & 2 together & work out the entire scenario of what had been going on. & he almost turned the tables on Doc Brown & Marty. Young Biff was always portrayed as a dumbass, but it turned out Doc & Marty underestimated him. With age (sometimes) comes wisdom. & Biff's character probably had the most development of any character in the franchise. He lost in the end, but boy did he give Marty & Doc a run for their money!
& it's particularly impressive that Biff was able to work out how to use the time circuits to travel to 1955 & back again, with no prior training. Being from 2015 he'd probably have known how to refuel Mr Fusion & how to pilot a flying car though, which would've made things easier.
marty isn't the Villain,biff is the villain,everything bad that happened to biff was just apart of fate,the tanan family has a history of being cruel and nasty,take kid tannen's biff's father for example,kid was mob boss and a gangster of the 1930's era(if you consider the telltale game canon to the movies,I do)he killed, bullied and intimidated people including marty's grandfather. Madd dogg tannen(biff's ancestor)was a bank robber in the wild west...another tannen who also bullied and treated people(including the mcfly's)like trash.
Yeah Marty is no villan he was Literally trying to save his own timeline and stop himself from dying im sure everyone would do the same in that position Biff is the real villan here
If you lolk at anyone in detail they could be a villain in a way, Lorraine hits on a guy who was hit by a car, stalks him, undresses him without consent, wont let him be even when hes trying to turn her to someone else.
Yeah, except the Daniel's the real bully theory was more believable than this. Biff was clearly the instigator here, Marty didn't walk into any of Biff's business outside of defending his own mother and father, such as Marty intervening on Biff harrasing George in the diner and intervening on Biff harrasing Lorraine in the school cafeteria. This was quite different from Daniel chiming in on Johnny arguing with a girl he just met that night on the beach, and they were arguing more than Johnny just straight up harrasing Ali like Biff was to Lorraine. And this guy in this video sayng that Marty was the antagonist for wanting the almanac back so he could save his own life and his mother's from an awful Biff controlled sesspool future and literally save his dad's life which would've ended with a bullet if Marty had failed to get the almanac back and return to 1985 without Biff's hands on the almanac. Yeah, I can see how Marty's the bad guy for wanting that, lol
"biff was bullying george as you can see" he was trying to teach him to be more independent and stand up for himself, but Goerge couldn't take a hint. " and hes got his own gang" it's bad to have a group of friends now?
@kevinammann5042 We've now had two generations without school bullying - Millennials and Zoomers - and look how they ended up: Assholes on Twitter and other social media. Maybe bullying, within reason, had its purposes...
@@foljs5858 And who is Biff to decide that George must "get more independent and stand up for himself", and that bullying him relentlessly is the right way to achieve that? Also, let's not kid ourselves, he bullied George for his own benefit--getting his homework done by a better student and feeling good about himself.
An interesting theory but I don't think that in the original timeline Lorraine was parking with anyone, she was most likely already dancing with George at that point
She's an alcoholic because she is in an unhappy marriage. Nothing to do with Biff. In the original timeline Biff wasn't involved there, she just went to the dance with George directly.
@Tatiana_Palii the original time line she took george to the dance, as thry explsin because she hit george with the car. Although it is weird, that she stayed with him, if she's not happy
I thought of this when I rewatched all three movies a few days ago and It’s just more realistic that Biff is a bad guy with his ancestors probably bullying him into being a bully himself.
the irony is though, and i have always said this. when biff says "you stole my stuff/ referring to the book" no sir. he did not . Marty was in the future, and used his own money to purchase that book and got teh reciept. marty paid ofr the almanac and therefore it is legally and rightfully his. biff from 60 years in the future stole it form marty. marty was just getting his rightrfuly paid for merchandise back
In theory this is correct. In actuality tho the book was thrown in the trash. So old biff didn't steal it, he acquired it from the trash receptecal. Then in 1955 when old biff gave his younger self the book to 1955 Biff that book was a gift from the mysterious stranger so to him it was indeed "his stuff" as young biff didn't know the history of how the book came to be his in the first place. But nevertheless that book didn't belong in his hands it was destined to be destroyed to keep the fabric of the space time continueum in tact.
In fairness, Old Biff didn't steal it. Marty/Doc threw it away. If you throw something away and someone gets in from the garbage, they didn't really steal it.
@@aarona1895 no however, it still belongs t marty legally. marty didn't throw it away, Doc took it and threw it out without marty really wanting him to. but it is sitll actaully martys stuff
I wonder if seeing Lorraine let herself go a bit in the original timeline, Biff thought 'Man, I dodged a bullet. Her attitude sucks now and she looks bad compared to high school.'
@WhiteG60 With his poor attitude and sexist ways I would imagine, yeah. And I bet you any any any any amount of money he could look in the mirror and go.You are one hot bastard, you are. Delusion thy name is biff.
This is one of the best fan theory videos I've ever seen. I thoroughly enjoyed that. So much so I went back 8 hours later and watched it again. It never dawned on me that Biff didn't know Marty and continually gets pummeled by this random little dude. I met Tom Wilson once. I wish I would have known this theory back then so I could have asked him.
That's right. George would've been already eloping with Lorraine from the night he was hit by the car, since there was no Marty to push him out of the way and get hit instead. However, since George now would never stand up to Biff, Biff would now continue to use him as a pushover like he did in the diner, and which he would continue to do so straight til 1985 when he's still using George as a pushover at work.
The thing is, almost everyone in that movie comes out ahead as a result of Marty's time travel shenanigans. Marty's family is rich, the Doc doesn't get shot by Libyans, Chuck Berry gets to invent rock and roll (well, he probably would have done that anyway. Marty had to have learned that song from somewhere), Biff goes from a lower management job he appears to hate to owning his own successful business, even the kid Marty stole the skateboard from got it back in a more awesome form. The only real victim was Mr Peabody, and his reaction to witnessing a car crash was to grab a shotgun and try to murder the driver, so he probably deserved to lose a pine tree.
This point of view really changes things, but you have to remember that the reason his book was being stolen was because the whole town was destroyed and ruined by Biff in the alternate timeline, where Biff was also a murderer for killing Marty's father. Biff was a villain half of the time. Cool video though!
Biff's situation is problematic, but it's not George and Lorraine's responsibility to fix it by letting him exploit them, they are just regular kids with their own issues to work on. Biff MAYBE was saving for college, but 1) it's unlikely he was interested, as he was more of a hands-on type of guy who would have thrived as a mechanic or plumber or something like that, especially in the 1950s in which it wasn't that common or necessary to get a college degree, and 2) he was getting his grades by cheating all the time, so he academically didn't deserve to get into any college.
Besides, the second movie shows us what Biff would have done if he had had better opportunities... would he have opened a medical center to research cancer? Would he have opened a support center for neglected kids? Would he have even just opened a successful and honest car dealership? No. He would have killed George--after all the homework he did for him, the money Biff stole from him, etc.--and created an empire of corruption.
@@alicedamiano7718 And if we need more evidence of what Biff done with a better opportunities.....there is a whole 6 volumes of official comic called "Biff to the future" for that.(Which the plot is "what happened between 1955A and 1985A")
Marty wasn’t supposed to go through all of this the real “villain” is doc for stealing plutonium and getting killed for it leading to every event in the trilogy
I could so a whole video on Doc Brown. Why did they have to go FIX THE FUTURE...Just tell Marty to take the family on vacation that week or something...
@jacobtommer-1653 I agree. Doc Brown is a genius and a man of science. Him causing unknown butterfly effects in the timeline just to settle personal grudges is beyond reckless and irresponsible for such a man.
On facebook some page made a challenge: "Write the plot of a movie as a reddit AITA post", and I chose to write Back to the Future as an AITA post written by Doc 😆
This was an absolutely tremendous opinion that's worded wisely and goes down like a ice cold glass of Doctor Bombay. Thank you, Adonis for this wonderfully worded masterpiece in which you reveal your greatest of tastes and discernment. Bravo! Stay Awesome and Frosty!
Apparently there is a deleted scene (or an easter egg, i cant remember), where the mechanic is still chasing down Biff for that $300 in 2015. So the little bit about Biff blowing his college fund on the repairs is a bit off. Enjoyed the video though.
@gregorydensford7185 You were a 🐱in high school who grew up to be a Twitter Bully and perpetual victim who tries to cancel people for not using preferred pronouns, weren't you?
Biff is the villain because realize a car it’s expensive but not worth a life. Marty was fighting for his own existence at this point. At least Biff would get to live after word but Marty could’ve had to stop existing.
You seem to be missing the point that 1955 Biff had mo idea who Marty was. He pops out of nowhere, tries to steal a stupid book which Biff has every reason to believe is his own, using very extreme methods. He fades out of existence, becomes two people, and flies! He probably appeared to Biff as some form of hypernatural cryptid. That's why he tried to k*ll him in the tunnel. Remember, he has no idea yet that time travel is involved, and has no idea that he's living in the 'wrong' timeline.
I actually not sure if I agree on some stuff, but one thing that does stick out to me. Why doesn't Biff realize that Marty looks just like that kid from years ago.
Even if he thought he looked like the kid from years ago, his first thought would not have been that there was some kind of time machine that took him back to 1955. He probably would have thought that it was just a coincidence and that his memory of the kid from 30 years might be a little fuzzy and he probably just thinks he looks like him but he couldn't be the same guy.
You also forgot the best reason why Marty deserve beating up by Biff in the 50s... for scooting around on that girls hoverboard. It was obviously a girls hoverboard. They music Pink should only be a girls hoverboard in fictional 2015. So they definitely knew it in that 1985 era. The 80s, and the actual modern era are just an aberration of idiocy. This real men wear/hover on pink nonsense is BS!
Marty is also a creature of his traumatic childhood, then he goes back in time 30 years and take it all off in a younger version of a Biff that he knows but doesn't even exist yet.
Biff went feom working in a mechanic and towing company as Supervisor to George who also worked there To owning his own Autodetailing business and George works for the government as an appraiser
Plus Buff didnt have $2000, he had atleast $300 or more in 1950. Adjusted for inflation means $300 is equivalent to $2000. Doesn’t mean he had $2000. Biff barely had $300. And he lost his opportunities working in that mechanic towing company because of Marty, but he owns his own Auto Detailing business
I had the idea for an alternative BTTF Part 2, in which Doc mistook Marty Junior for Marty after the hoverboard chase, stranding young Marty Senior in 2015 while giving Marty Junior the opportunity to deliberately erase Biff's son/Griff's father (whom I named "Cliff") from existence. So it would have been a dark mirror to the first film: Doc has to ensure that Griff's parents meet because Marty Junior was purposely trying to prevent that happening. So the "Marty" character would have been the villain, and the "Biff" character would have been the good guy.
@Adonis Paul Good video, all the reasons for the alternate point of view were explained well... Except, could you further explain the hypothesis/assumption that the money was originally meant for Biff Tannen's college education? On another train of thought, what are your thoughts about "Back to the Future 3"? I know it's supposed to explain and better fortify the story of Doc Brown. However, it feels as if they had to make another sequel and it simply doesn't have the same sizzle or urgentcy the the other films have. They (the filmmakers) had to deliver a third episode... The quality of the third installment drops off a cliff in comparison to the other two films in the franchise. The film just seems to drag on. The Western cinematography was good I guess, but still. Thoughts...?
Biff didnt pay for his car to be fixed though, in part 2, when he was complaining to Terry about the cost, Terry told him to call Old Man Jones for a refund and not only did he get his car fixed free, but 4 cans of Valvoline Oil too. "4 cans for a $300 job? I could get a whole case for a $300 job!!!" (Thern Terry continues ranting about the smell of the manure that'll never go away and it's the last time he does Biff a favor)
@@AdonisPaulAre all of your videos a joke? Just curious? Like the Ali is trash video. We’re you Sirius about what you said in that video? Again just curious? Was this video about Marty just a joke? You’re not serious? Again just questions?
Pardon me, the timeline was destroyed when Marty saved George from being hit, and probably earlier, as soon as Marty arrived in 1955. Marty shouldn't have suckerpunched Biff in the cafe, and borrowed the kid's toy, I agree. But nothing was virtuous about Biff and his gang chasing Marty and trying to ram him. And Marty didn't cause the collision, Biff did. And Biff was intimidating George and extorting money from him. Was auto detailing such a bad job for Biff, as a small business owner? He was probably happier there than as low-level or mid-level management, terrified of being caught about having outsourced his reports. The producers could have gone another route and made Biff a nicer man in parts 2 and 3, but that was their choice.
This is wonderfully reminiscent of Patton Oswalt's "Johhny Lawrence is the Hero of Karate Kid" analysis...which was totally redeemed through Cobra Kai later on. Maybe Biff can get his redemption show on TH-cam/Netflix
This was a great take on this classic 80's movie. More often, we only see the story through one perspective. Great work on pointing out the other side of the story. 👍
george mc fly is fred trump jr who wanted to become a pilot that is why his name is mcFly (mcleod was the name of the Trumps mother), biff tanen is donald trump and lyon estates is fred trump's first big business.
All great except alternate timeline Biff does specifically say that he couldn't see the resemblance between himself and the elderly Biff who gave him the Almanac.
I can literally hear myself dying in this video. Creepy. How did I not know how terrible I sounded and that there was something horribly wrong healthwise. Compare it to anything I have done since. It's uncanny. Even my voice was dying.
Wow, THANK YOU for finally being the one to graciously share to the public what you, me, and many of us have known for a long time. 😂(Great video buddy, got a good laugh!)
After part 3, Marty would need to go back to the 50s again to repair any damage his actions did in the 1800s. Then check in on 2015, and then go back to compensate any mistakes made, ad infinitum...
Do you know what was the big fault in your theorizing here, like something that you missed... And it was also a fault in the original movie? No one ever addresses the fact, like the reason Marty what is who he was is because he grew up kind of angry and disappointed and unfulfilled by what a pantywaist his dad was and how much of an asshole adult Biff was. It obviously had a huge effect on it right? And that's obviously a large part of why he was willing to take all these risks and do all this stuff to screw over Biff in the past. Like not just to make his life better but because he was disgruntled at how Biff had an effect on him personally in his present original timeline. And THAT'S how the movie screwed up. Because the Marty we knew from the beginning would never have existed still... If he hadn't been pissed off at his family life and everything like that. He probably would have been a little jerk off loser if he had not been faced with all that adversity in his personal life from the get-go, but somehow that one didn't get erased and replaced. He got to stick around. So why was he getting erased in the first place when his parents never met? Doesn't make sense. The Langoliers would have shown up and eaten that guy.
@i.am.not.herbert To be fair, Marty basically did end up as a loser in 2015. Keep in mind, this is the 2015 after he just got back from 1955, meaning the McFlys are successful and rich. So you're kind of right in that once Marty lost his grit, he ended up being pathetic, which is why his kids ended up being snobby little jerks, as well.
Marty didn't just murder his parents and siblings he erased them from ever existing so everyone they had any contact with even as simple as they got inline in front of them changes which will ripple out over the whole world over time.
"A Relative with a pretty believable resemblance of me in 50 years." EXCEPT - In the alternate 1985, Biff tells Marty "He says he's a distant relative. I don't see any resemblance." And, Biff HAD to say that, otherwise, seeing his older self and recognizing him as such would have caused the same "pass out effect" of the 2 Jennifers in 2015.
I don't see this interpretation picking up as well as that of cobra kai... And you forgot to blame Marty for the joke he played on his dad that alien's wear hazmat suits which is plastered on the front cover of his book that took him 30 odd years to compose.
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I uploaded this just for you chuck.
@@AdonisPaul Description is true, you have bad taste depite making this funny video. He knoweth not what he do, he just doeth.
@@chuckmangione1552 bad taste? Curious.
@@i.am.not.herbert Don't make him explain. My buddies all have a dossier on why I suck.
@@AdonisPaul I mean, those are call blackmailers usually. But hey, if that's your prerequisite on friendship, I'll be your buddy. 😁
Biff went from being a measly upper middle management employee to a self-employed owner of an auto detailing business.
Yes small business, but still his own boss
Considering how often his car was completely ruined by shit tons of manure
The narrator of the video sounds exactly like the actor who played Biff Tannon. Lol.
I like the theory that Biff recognized that Marty was Calvin Klein and had ingratiated himself to the McFly family to figure out the mystery. He had all the pieces, but it didn't come together until he was an old man. In his own rudimentary way, he intuited time warfare and managed to checkmate two timetravellers without prior knowledge of time travel or owning a time machine.
exactly it was odd that he gave Marty extra attention as soon as he came back.
for George and Lorraine, it makes sense that they wouldn't recognize him as Calvin; considering George thanked "Marty" at the end of the film. he likely just thought it was a lost McFly (bc Martin and Seamus are Marty's namesake)
but for biff he would have a decent idea and wouldn't have much of a picture of Marty growing up, he would recognize Calvin Klein once he reached the age
and then for the week or two Marty was gone, that's when he realized something was up
Old Biff had certainly wised up over the years.He did pretty well to put 2 & 2 together & work out the entire scenario of what had been going on. & he almost turned the tables on Doc Brown & Marty. Young Biff was always portrayed as a dumbass, but it turned out Doc & Marty underestimated him. With age (sometimes) comes wisdom. & Biff's character probably had the most development of any character in the franchise. He lost in the end, but boy did he give Marty & Doc a run for their money!
& it's particularly impressive that Biff was able to work out how to use the time circuits to travel to 1955 & back again, with no prior training. Being from 2015 he'd probably have known how to refuel Mr Fusion & how to pilot a flying car though, which would've made things easier.
marty isn't the Villain,biff is the villain,everything bad that happened to biff was just apart of fate,the tanan family has a history of being cruel and nasty,take kid tannen's biff's father for example,kid was mob boss and a gangster of the 1930's era(if you consider the telltale game canon to the movies,I do)he killed, bullied and intimidated people including marty's grandfather. Madd dogg tannen(biff's ancestor)was a bank robber in the wild west...another tannen who also bullied and treated people(including the mcfly's)like trash.
Did you watch the video? you completely missed the point. lol
Yeah Marty is no villan he was Literally trying to save his own timeline and stop himself from dying im sure everyone would do the same in that position Biff is the real villan here
This went way over your head bud...
No shit. This is from Biff's point of view.... He has no idea who this Calvin Kline is that keeps fucking with him constantly.... @@nickbusby9920
Biff is Horrible!!
If you lolk at anyone in detail they could be a villain in a way, Lorraine hits on a guy who was hit by a car, stalks him, undresses him without consent, wont let him be even when hes trying to turn her to someone else.
This reminds me of the theory that the Karate kid was the bad guy and someone actually explained it on TH-cam. In fact the new series addresses it
Yeah, except the Daniel's the real bully theory was more believable than this. Biff was clearly the instigator here, Marty didn't walk into any of Biff's business outside of defending his own mother and father, such as Marty intervening on Biff harrasing George in the diner and intervening on Biff harrasing Lorraine in the school cafeteria. This was quite different from Daniel chiming in on Johnny arguing with a girl he just met that night on the beach, and they were arguing more than Johnny just straight up harrasing Ali like Biff was to Lorraine.
And this guy in this video sayng that Marty was the antagonist for wanting the almanac back so he could save his own life and his mother's from an awful Biff controlled sesspool future and literally save his dad's life which would've ended with a bullet if Marty had failed to get the almanac back and return to 1985 without Biff's hands on the almanac. Yeah, I can see how Marty's the bad guy for wanting that, lol
Yeah even Barney breaks it down on how I met your mother
That's probably where he stole the idea for this video
one slight problem, biff was bullying george as you can see. and hes got his own gang. hes still a bully and the leader of a bully gang.
"biff was bullying george as you can see" he was trying to teach him to be more independent and stand up for himself, but Goerge couldn't take a hint. " and hes got his own gang" it's bad to have a group of friends now?
@kevinammann5042
We've now had two generations without school bullying - Millennials and Zoomers - and look how they ended up: Assholes on Twitter and other social media. Maybe bullying, within reason, had its purposes...
@@foljs5858 And who is Biff to decide that George must "get more independent and stand up for himself", and that bullying him relentlessly is the right way to achieve that?
Also, let's not kid ourselves, he bullied George for his own benefit--getting his homework done by a better student and feeling good about himself.
This was a clever piece, thank you. I must say I laughed a number of times.
I think in the original timeline he assaulted Lorraine too. That's why she's an alcoholic.
An interesting theory but I don't think that in the original timeline Lorraine was parking with anyone, she was most likely already dancing with George at that point
She's an alcoholic because she is in an unhappy marriage. Nothing to do with Biff. In the original timeline Biff wasn't involved there, she just went to the dance with George directly.
@Tatiana_Palii the original time line she took george to the dance, as thry explsin because she hit george with the car. Although it is weird, that she stayed with him, if she's not happy
@@wwerules000Lorraine probably gets more control of the marriage as a result of her husband being passive not able to stand up for himself?
@@yiannisdanatzis2889 yeah but that isn't attractive to a woman
Back to the future from Biffs perspective would be crazy.
That would make a nice fan flick.😅
Every good villain is the hero of his own story.
Biff Tanen is a bully, a true villan
I thought of this when I rewatched all three movies a few days ago and It’s just more realistic that Biff is a bad guy with his ancestors probably bullying him into being a bully himself.
the irony is though, and i have always said this. when biff says "you stole my stuff/ referring to the book" no sir. he did not . Marty was in the future, and used his own money to purchase that book and got teh reciept. marty paid ofr the almanac and therefore it is legally and rightfully his. biff from 60 years in the future stole it form marty. marty was just getting his rightrfuly paid for merchandise back
In theory this is correct. In actuality tho the book was thrown in the trash. So old biff didn't steal it, he acquired it from the trash receptecal. Then in 1955 when old biff gave his younger self the book to 1955 Biff that book was a gift from the mysterious stranger so to him it was indeed "his stuff" as young biff didn't know the history of how the book came to be his in the first place. But nevertheless that book didn't belong in his hands it was destined to be destroyed to keep the fabric of the space time continueum in tact.
In fairness, Old Biff didn't steal it. Marty/Doc threw it away. If you throw something away and someone gets in from the garbage, they didn't really steal it.
@@aarona1895 no however, it still belongs t marty legally. marty didn't throw it away, Doc took it and threw it out without marty really wanting him to. but it is sitll actaully martys stuff
Marty left with Doc. Had Old Biff not intervened, it would have been picked up by the garbage man.
wrong doc threw the book in the trash which makes it fair game
AND THATS THE LAW
This theory failed the first time Biff said ‘Tell your mom I said hi’.
He actually said, "What are you looking at Butthead? say hi to your ma for me".
I wonder if seeing Lorraine let herself go a bit in the original timeline, Biff thought 'Man, I dodged a bullet. Her attitude sucks now and she looks bad compared to high school.'
@WhiteG60 With his poor attitude and sexist ways I would imagine, yeah. And I bet you any any any any amount of money he could look in the mirror and go.You are one hot bastard, you are. Delusion thy name is biff.
5:32 This wouldn't have happened at all if Marty didn't attempt to take the sports almanac home in the first place.
That ‘85 Toyota 4x4 hasn’t depreciated in value. All was worth it. Just wish the Pinheads didn’t sign that contract with Geffen.
If only the pinheads could of made it!
This is one of the best fan theory videos I've ever seen.
I thoroughly enjoyed that.
So much so I went back 8 hours later and watched it again.
It never dawned on me that Biff didn't know Marty and continually gets pummeled by this random little dude.
I met Tom Wilson once. I wish I would have known this theory back then so I could have asked him.
Dude you are wasting your life away
Well what about the whole casino thing in 2? Also the fact Biff tried to kill Marty several times? What about the fact he bullied George for years?
You forgot that he killed George McFly in 2
Old biff made a 2nd pit stop and stopped by TH-cam in 2021 and changed his name to Adonis Paul
After losing his reelection as President Biff.
The 50s PSA happy go lucky music is a nice touch.
2:55 if it was not for Marty then George would not have been in the café in the first place
That's right. George would've been already eloping with Lorraine from the night he was hit by the car, since there was no Marty to push him out of the way and get hit instead. However, since George now would never stand up to Biff, Biff would now continue to use him as a pushover like he did in the diner, and which he would continue to do so straight til 1985 when he's still using George as a pushover at work.
The thing is, almost everyone in that movie comes out ahead as a result of Marty's time travel shenanigans. Marty's family is rich, the Doc doesn't get shot by Libyans, Chuck Berry gets to invent rock and roll (well, he probably would have done that anyway. Marty had to have learned that song from somewhere), Biff goes from a lower management job he appears to hate to owning his own successful business, even the kid Marty stole the skateboard from got it back in a more awesome form. The only real victim was Mr Peabody, and his reaction to witnessing a car crash was to grab a shotgun and try to murder the driver, so he probably deserved to lose a pine tree.
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You forgot to mention the alternate timeline beff and his grandson.
Interesting take. Looking back at it I, and (I assume) most people simply accept Biff as the antagonist. Thia was pretty neat nice work AP
This point of view really changes things, but you have to remember that the reason his book was being stolen was because the whole town was destroyed and ruined by Biff in the alternate timeline, where Biff was also a murderer for killing Marty's father. Biff was a villain half of the time. Cool video though!
Biff's situation is problematic, but it's not George and Lorraine's responsibility to fix it by letting him exploit them, they are just regular kids with their own issues to work on.
Biff MAYBE was saving for college, but 1) it's unlikely he was interested, as he was more of a hands-on type of guy who would have thrived as a mechanic or plumber or something like that, especially in the 1950s in which it wasn't that common or necessary to get a college degree, and 2) he was getting his grades by cheating all the time, so he academically didn't deserve to get into any college.
Besides, the second movie shows us what Biff would have done if he had had better opportunities... would he have opened a medical center to research cancer? Would he have opened a support center for neglected kids? Would he have even just opened a successful and honest car dealership? No. He would have killed George--after all the homework he did for him, the money Biff stole from him, etc.--and created an empire of corruption.
@@alicedamiano7718 And if we need more evidence of what Biff done with a better opportunities.....there is a whole 6 volumes of official comic called "Biff to the future" for that.(Which the plot is "what happened between 1955A and 1985A")
Marty wasn’t supposed to go through all of this the real “villain” is doc for stealing plutonium and getting killed for it leading to every event in the trilogy
I could so a whole video on Doc Brown. Why did they have to go FIX THE FUTURE...Just tell Marty to take the family on vacation that week or something...
@@AdonisPaul yeah he goes from telling Marty not to alter history but then goes to the future bc his kids get arrested pretty stupid IMO.
@jacobtommer-1653
I agree. Doc Brown is a genius and a man of science. Him causing unknown butterfly effects in the timeline just to settle personal grudges is beyond reckless and irresponsible for such a man.
On facebook some page made a challenge: "Write the plot of a movie as a reddit AITA post", and I chose to write Back to the Future as an AITA post written by Doc 😆
This was an absolutely tremendous opinion that's worded wisely and goes down like a ice cold glass of Doctor Bombay.
Thank you, Adonis for this wonderfully worded masterpiece in which you reveal your greatest of tastes and discernment. Bravo!
Stay Awesome and Frosty!
Are you serious? Or is this one of your other accounts Mr TH-cam guy
Apparently there is a deleted scene (or an easter egg, i cant remember), where the mechanic is still chasing down Biff for that $300 in 2015. So the little bit about Biff blowing his college fund on the repairs is a bit off. Enjoyed the video though.
You were a bully in high school. Weren't you?
I am one now. Run.
@gregorydensford7185
You were a 🐱in high school who grew up to be a Twitter Bully and perpetual victim who tries to cancel people for not using preferred pronouns, weren't you?
You forgot to mention the alternative 1985 Biff aka rich man Biff.
Biff is the villain because realize a car it’s expensive but not worth a life. Marty was fighting for his own existence at this point. At least Biff would get to live after word but Marty could’ve had to stop existing.
What?! lol
You seem to be missing the point that 1955 Biff had mo idea who Marty was. He pops out of nowhere, tries to steal a stupid book which Biff has every reason to believe is his own, using very extreme methods. He fades out of existence, becomes two people, and flies!
He probably appeared to Biff as some form of hypernatural cryptid. That's why he tried to k*ll him in the tunnel.
Remember, he has no idea yet that time travel is involved, and has no idea that he's living in the 'wrong' timeline.
I actually not sure if I agree on some stuff, but one thing that does stick out to me. Why doesn't Biff realize that Marty looks just like that kid from years ago.
Even if he thought he looked like the kid from years ago, his first thought would not have been that there was some kind of time machine that took him back to 1955. He probably would have thought that it was just a coincidence and that his memory of the kid from 30 years might be a little fuzzy and he probably just thinks he looks like him but he couldn't be the same guy.
You also forgot the best reason why Marty deserve beating up by Biff in the 50s... for scooting around on that girls hoverboard. It was obviously a girls hoverboard. They music Pink should only be a girls hoverboard in fictional 2015. So they definitely knew it in that 1985 era.
The 80s, and the actual modern era are just an aberration of idiocy. This real men wear/hover on pink nonsense is BS!
I enjoyed this perspective.. oddly, I’ve met school bullies years later. Changed guys.
This is better than the " Daniel is the real bully " theory.
Never looked at the movie from this point of view. This is really interesting.
Marty is also a creature of his traumatic childhood, then he goes back in time 30 years and take it all off in a younger version of a Biff that he knows but doesn't even exist yet.
Biff went feom working in a mechanic and towing company as Supervisor to George who also worked there
To owning his own Autodetailing business and George works for the government as an appraiser
This is the best back to the future video I’ve ever seen 😂😂
Lol AP. You can't BS me...I know you loved back to the future too.
Plus Buff didnt have $2000, he had atleast $300 or more in 1950.
Adjusted for inflation means $300 is equivalent to $2000. Doesn’t mean he had $2000. Biff barely had $300. And he lost his opportunities working in that mechanic towing company because of Marty, but he owns his own Auto Detailing business
10 minutes and 27 seconds of gaslighting😂😂😂
I had the idea for an alternative BTTF Part 2, in which Doc mistook Marty Junior for Marty after the hoverboard chase, stranding young Marty Senior in 2015 while giving Marty Junior the opportunity to deliberately erase Biff's son/Griff's father (whom I named "Cliff") from existence. So it would have been a dark mirror to the first film: Doc has to ensure that Griff's parents meet because Marty Junior was purposely trying to prevent that happening. So the "Marty" character would have been the villain, and the "Biff" character would have been the good guy.
@@marrychrismas306 This is in my imaginary alternative version of BTTF 2, not the real one.
I grew up watching this n this video was very interesting. Bravo Bravo man
This is a hilarious take, I love it!
@Adonis Paul
Good video, all the reasons for the alternate point of view were explained well...
Except, could you further explain the hypothesis/assumption that the money was originally meant for Biff Tannen's college education?
On another train of thought, what are your thoughts about "Back to the Future 3"? I know it's supposed to explain and better fortify the story of Doc Brown. However, it feels as if they had to make another sequel and it simply doesn't have the same sizzle or urgentcy the the other films have.
They (the filmmakers) had to deliver a third episode... The quality of the third installment drops off a cliff in comparison to the other two films in the franchise. The film just seems to drag on. The Western cinematography was good I guess, but still. Thoughts...?
Biff didnt pay for his car to be fixed though, in part 2, when he was complaining to Terry about the cost, Terry told him to call Old Man Jones for a refund and not only did he get his car fixed free, but 4 cans of Valvoline Oil too. "4 cans for a $300 job? I could get a whole case for a $300 job!!!" (Thern Terry continues ranting about the smell of the manure that'll never go away and it's the last time he does Biff a favor)
Glad you made this video got me falling out laughing keep up the jokes on movies not just BTTF.😂😂😂
I'm just glad you got a laugh. Some people come to these comments trying to take a joke way too seriously.
@@AdonisPaulAre all of your videos a joke? Just curious? Like the Ali is trash video. We’re you Sirius about what you said in that video? Again just curious? Was this video about Marty just a joke? You’re not serious? Again just questions?
Pardon me, the timeline was destroyed when Marty saved George from being hit, and probably earlier, as soon as Marty arrived in 1955.
Marty shouldn't have suckerpunched Biff in the cafe, and borrowed the kid's toy, I agree. But nothing was virtuous about Biff and his gang chasing Marty and trying to ram him. And Marty didn't cause the collision, Biff did. And Biff was intimidating George and extorting money from him.
Was auto detailing such a bad job for Biff, as a small business owner? He was probably happier there than as low-level or mid-level management, terrified of being caught about having outsourced his reports.
The producers could have gone another route and made Biff a nicer man in parts 2 and 3, but that was their choice.
When did Biff ever say he was going to college? When did any character say/imply this?
On of the best BTTF videos ever
Biff the tragic hero
Sounds like Marty is bullying a bully
Funfact: in 2010 video game we meet Biff's father, and accidentally Save him from going to prison which leads to another two Tannens being conceived
That was great, thank you! I enjoyed it, I can’t say that I agree, and I think you’re just kidding, but it was fun to watch!
This is wonderfully reminiscent of Patton Oswalt's "Johhny Lawrence is the Hero of Karate Kid" analysis...which was totally redeemed through Cobra Kai later on. Maybe Biff can get his redemption show on TH-cam/Netflix
😏Think of this as a PRIMER to "Enjoy your Movie". It's not that bad so there is no need to really hate it.😏
Absolutely agree!! Great analysis
Looks like your trying to argue a Cobra Kai twist here?
I always assumed Biff was overcompensating for having absentee partnes, and that Marty was the reason he became an asshole to George in 1985.
So if you saw someone doing that to your mom, you would have done what exactly?
This reminds me of flat earthers explaining how the Earth is flat.
Yes! MORE PLEASE!
You must of been the bully in high school to side with the bully and think the hero is the villain
This was a great take on this classic 80's movie. More often, we only see the story through one perspective. Great work on pointing out the other side of the story. 👍
i have a challenge. i would like to see someone do a Empror palaptine /sidious is the real victim
george mc fly is fred trump jr who wanted to become a pilot that is why his name is mcFly (mcleod was the name of the Trumps mother), biff tanen is donald trump and lyon estates is fred trump's first big business.
idk why u hated this video, i thought it was hilarious 😂 whole video had me rollin'
like bruh, "twitchy midget"☠☠
All great except alternate timeline Biff does specifically say that he couldn't see the resemblance between himself and the elderly Biff who gave him the Almanac.
I can literally hear myself dying in this video. Creepy. How did I not know how terrible I sounded and that there was something horribly wrong healthwise. Compare it to anything I have done since. It's uncanny. Even my voice was dying.
Bitch Moves Final Counter: 23
Videomaker blunder: Young Biff didn't see any resemblance.
What was it OB-Wan said about "a certain point of view"
Bro Marty is the best character in the movie why you giving him crap he doesn’t do any bad things
This was awesome and a fresh perspective...you should be a lawyer
No, seriously. 👏👏 This is awesome. 😂 Make more of these. 😂❤
This made my day! I couldn't stop laughing!
It is all about viewer AND character perspective, as Truffaut once said (or wrote) that.
Wow, THANK YOU for finally being the one to graciously share to the public what you, me, and many of us have known for a long time. 😂(Great video buddy, got a good laugh!)
well, when you put it all like that … yup, i’m convinced!
In reality, if the law worked in Hill Valley... Marty should've been arrested for Assault + Battery and Biff for Attempted Murder
After part 3, Marty would need to go back to the 50s again to repair any damage his actions did in the 1800s. Then check in on 2015, and then go back to compensate any mistakes made, ad infinitum...
Do you know what was the big fault in your theorizing here, like something that you missed... And it was also a fault in the original movie?
No one ever addresses the fact, like the reason Marty what is who he was is because he grew up kind of angry and disappointed and unfulfilled by what a pantywaist his dad was and how much of an asshole adult Biff was. It obviously had a huge effect on it right? And that's obviously a large part of why he was willing to take all these risks and do all this stuff to screw over Biff in the past. Like not just to make his life better but because he was disgruntled at how Biff had an effect on him personally in his present original timeline.
And THAT'S how the movie screwed up. Because the Marty we knew from the beginning would never have existed still... If he hadn't been pissed off at his family life and everything like that. He probably would have been a little jerk off loser if he had not been faced with all that adversity in his personal life from the get-go, but somehow that one didn't get erased and replaced. He got to stick around. So why was he getting erased in the first place when his parents never met?
Doesn't make sense.
The Langoliers would have shown up and eaten that guy.
Wasn't it explained that they keep the memories from the previous timelines?
@i.am.not.herbert
To be fair, Marty basically did end up as a loser in 2015. Keep in mind, this is the 2015 after he just got back from 1955, meaning the McFlys are successful and rich. So you're kind of right in that once Marty lost his grit, he ended up being pathetic, which is why his kids ended up being snobby little jerks, as well.
In 1955 that car would not have $2309 worth of damages is because the car would not even cost that new.
Marty didn't just murder his parents and siblings he erased them from ever existing so everyone they had any contact with even as simple as they got inline in front of them changes which will ripple out over the whole world over time.
"A Relative with a pretty believable resemblance of me in 50 years." EXCEPT - In the alternate 1985, Biff tells Marty "He says he's a distant relative. I don't see any resemblance." And, Biff HAD to say that, otherwise, seeing his older self and recognizing him as such would have caused the same "pass out effect" of the 2 Jennifers in 2015.
8:14 let's not ease over the fact that biff could've obliterated Marty at this point.. Marty got off easy with two boots to the gut.
Biff hired a pr team
What about were boff threw kids ball balcony and knock kid hat off
We're ALL the villain in someone else's story.
nice doing the "Daniel from Karate kid is the real bully" bit
What about assault and r word
Haha hilarious video. Reminds me of a video like this but on the karate kid movie
Now we need Cobra Kai-esque Back to the Future series from Biff’s point of view 😂😂😂
8:41 Lol “flying asshole”
Trying to be like “the guy who said ralph machio was the villain in karate kid”lol
I don't see this interpretation picking up as well as that of cobra kai...
And you forgot to blame Marty for the joke he played on his dad that alien's wear hazmat suits which is plastered on the front cover of his book that took him 30 odd years to compose.
So many people are missing the whole joke and satire lmao
I was ready to say you're crazy for claiming Marty is the villain. But after watching the entire video, I think you're on to something. Great video!