The Most Gangster Politician Ever | The Chill Zone Reacts
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I think of Cassius Clay as basically what it would look like if every stereotypical bloodthirsty psychopath in action movies, were actually conscious enough to steer that violence in the right direction lmao
he is literally the progenitor to true American action film heroes, he just is that guy fr fr
@karsoban9150 that's not allowed now. Guns and knives are evil, no matter if the person using it is a good person and doing a good deed, it's evil because weapon
@@charlesrodden4019that's stupid
''perhaps no the best book to say that''. Dude just showed how ignorant he is lol.
@@kraven7655it was also the book that the overwhelming majority of pro-slavery figures used to justify their position, so it’s not exactly ignorant to say that there might be better alternatives for arguing against slavery than the book literally being used as it’s main proponent. Regardless, leave your own comment instead of replying to mine when it has absolutely nothing to do with what you wanted to say.
Cassius Clay:
Speech: 100
One Handed: 100
Light armor: 100
Cassius is a game ending character, has all stats maxed with passives and legebdary items.
If Ubisoft ever makes an American 1800s Assassins Creed, this man is 100% gonna be the leader of the Order.
His more like assassin but more forward and doom style
Screw that, i wanna play as him. Power fantasy fulfilment level 100
Nah, he's an assassin for sure
At the very least he must be in the game. Maybe an associate and supporter of them.
They should make it where you play as Cassius, an assassin of the Order, and you're fighting slavery because it's a Templar scheme to amass power and wealth in preparation for something bigger and more sinister.
The number of home defense canons in this story leads me to believe that the "2nd amendment copy pasta" is largely based on Clay.
my thoughts Exactly!
Casius Clay is literally the inspiration for the copy pasta of “Own a musket for home defense because that’s what the founding fathers intended”.
Here it is:
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Amen brothar.
and then i fired, and i missed, and then i fired again, but i missed.
@@terrarianfailure4420 Then I ate a popsicle.
Tally Ho Lads!
Amen brother
Cassius Clay was so good at his perseverance that Kentucky literally said: "He's too dangerous to be left alive!!"
UN-LIMITED... POWAH!!!!
What is with the Clay family's genes? His dad was the wealthiest slave owner, his cousin was the best lawyer, and he was the best duelist! Did he have any relatives that WEREN'T prefect at something?
The Clay blood is the blood of anime protagonists
Saying he was simply "the best lawyer" is underselling Henry Clay's achivements. He impressed people so much that they appointed him to the Senate in 1806 at 29(the Constitution requires you to be 30), after that stint he was elected to the House where he became the 2nd youngest Speaker of the House in US history at 34, was de facto head of the Whig Party(one of the 2 major parties, along with the Democrats at the time), and is known to history as "The Great Compromiser" because of 3 compromises he created on slavery that kept the Civil War from happening in the decades before it actually did.
EDIT: Also, forgot to mention that he would be Secretary of State under John Quincy Adams. Unfortunately, that would haunt him for his entire political career as his political rival, Andrew Jackson accused him of a "corrupt bargain" where he used his significant influence in the House to swing the 1824 election(nobody got an Electoral College majority) to Adams. There's no evidence of a backroom deal though. Jackson and Clay also viscerally hated each other so I doubt he would've needed the position to tank Jackson's chances.
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@HistoryNerd808 Are there any ordinary people in this guy's bloodline?!
@jesterbrown90 No. He's a crazy badass, his dad was a super wealthy person, and Henry is one of the most important politicians in American history to never be president. It's frankly insane that all 3 of them came out of the same family.
Cassius Clay is one of the few people who's life has to be toned down to make the biopic realistic.
Well said 😅
Let's have some fun, who are we gonna cast to play Cassius Clay?
@@JCGverThe crazy part is I believe a film actually was made about this guy. Dramaticized, of course, but it's out there. It's on the older side, though
Edit: So, did a little digging. For some reason I got wires crossed and was thinking of a film called The Iron Mistress, about Jim Bowie
@@JCGverhe slightly looks like Mark Ruffalo. That would have potential. Ruffalo also looks to be showing some more depth than we've seen from him in Poor Things
@@thorkagemob1297no mark is absolutely not enough of a man to play clay
Cassius Clay would be a wild character to meet in an Assassin’s Creed game.
Wouldn’t even need to help him. Templars attacking him? He will fucking end them himself.
Templars pull out the hidden blade and he goes full "That's not a knife, *this* is a knife!" and just goes wild with the Bowie Knife.
Man he be opening up Assassins and Templars like an Amazon unboxing video.
The whole game is you taking out a few targets but 95% of the time finding out Clay already got to them before you lol
He let his intrusive violent thoughts manifest "LEGALLY. "
Yeah the name change is crazy once you know of the origin. Muhammed Ali's ancestors were most likely freed by Cassius Clay since they have the name and he was from Louisville, KY. His family gave him the name as an honor of the badass man that fought for freedom of others his entire life.
He is also a relative. John clay is a great great grandfather of Mohammed ali
"Modern statutes in the U.S. define mayhem as disabling or disfiguring, such as rendering useless a member of another person's arms or legs."
And this case probably set a precedent that when done in the pursuit of self defense, mayhem is not a criminal offense.
Fat electrician knows an entertaining story when he sees it. Best part is it's all real.
That GTA "Mission Passed + respect" was so perfect and hilarious 😂
You want an anti hero? He has a great story about a man named "Jake McNasty" from ww2. Crazy stuff
I LOVE this one! This guy gave zero F's. Just wanted to fight in the war!
Guy and his men killed like 700 enemy troops? They had situational advantages, but good god.
@@grimsladeleviathan3958It takes an intelligent person to use advantages.
"What do you do when half the population hates your guts? You run for public office." 😂
the newspaper part had me thinking, This guy is doing side quests! He's the main character leveling up to fight the final boss, doing side quests all on the way there. Dude was level 50 fighting level 5s and 10s! xD
defintly recommend his "soldier on meth - becomes unkillable" video that's a special one
Both Fat electrician and Dankula did fantastic videos about him
@@SeanHirukiTime to rewatch some Dankula, been a long time.
When he was describing the printing office plan, I just started imagining the long take hallway scene from Old Boy
When he used the Bible and the Constitution as arguments against slavery, they were just about the same thing.
"The Bible is pro- slavery" well the Constitution was at that time the law code of a nation of slave owners. But even though it made allowances for slavery, you could use the principles in the Constitution to conclude that freedom should not be denied to anyone.
In the same way, the Bible has allowances for slavery, but there are principles in the Bible that show that all humans have equal standing in the sight of God, therefore you can argue slavery is wrong.
And since it went there, Muhammed Ali's name change was extra ironic because Muslims did not end the Arab slave trade, western countries FORCED them to stop. The Arabs never wanted to stop purely based on conscience. So I think he changed his name from an anti- slavery name to a pro- slavery name.
Right. Likewise it's worth noting slavery was the default in pretty well the entirety of the world, and the Torah was already asking for a lot of restraint vs. what was considered normal behavior in the world at the time.
It's like the eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth verse. That wasn't condoning revenge, it was limiting it. The standard was, you take my eye, I murder your family. The purpose of the verse was to establish that if you pursue retribution it must never be in excess of what was taken from you. It doesn't say don't go for revenge, because that's too inhuman and just isn't going to happen. So more realistically, it sets limits on it.
Same thing with slavery. There was the assumption that it was simply going to happen. However, the biblical rules on slavery acknowledge the humanity of the slaves far more than almost any other culture of the time and establish all kinds of conditions in which they could be freed, even limiting how much an owner could punish them. Up until the last few centuries, there was no major world culture that even questioned if slavery might be wrong, and it was largely a biblically driven argument.
Thank you, I just commented the same thing. The Bible is the best argument against slavery. If we didn't have the Bible then explain to me why slavery is wrong?
@chrisbardsley9290 So true. Secular people these days say that it's self- evident that slavery is wrong, but that's coming from a long historical legacy of Christian morality. People aren't aware of the roots of their worldview, like fish aren't aware of water.
@@chrisbardsley9290 The idea that religion is required for morals to exist is retarded. If your only reason for thinking something is wrong is the fear of God's judgement, then you are not a moral person. You're just a fearful and obedient one. And any God that asks to be feared is not a God worth following.
Let's give Ali a break. I mean, the got punched in the head for a living. Not healthy for the I.Q.
I think the main reason we have so many dumb lawsuits in the US is that anyone with the resources can START one, regardless of whether they have a reasonable case or not. 9/10, the Sam Browns of the world know that they're gonna get laughed out of court, they just want to force their opponent to waste the time and money defending it.
Part of the problem is you have to go through the process to determine the validity of the claim. If you make it harder to start the suit, you run the risk of locking people with legitimate grievances out of any recourse. Personally I lean towards the losers should almost always have to reimburse fees.
It should be the case that when someone sue another, they have first to go alone to court and prove that his claims are true or backed by strong evidence. Only later the person accused should be notified and has to waste time and money defending himself.
@@kraven7655 That just lengthens the process and biases in favor of the accuser, because then the accuser gets to make their case to the court without the other party to defend themselves and then they have to go through all of it again after the normal court process.
If you're asking for a process to see if the tort is valid, that already exists. To initiate the lawsuit, they have to claim to have an actionable cause and show at least some evidence of it or it doesn't get very far.
Not really, because the dynamic i presented implies that if there is no strong evidence, the accused party wont even need to go to court. The only one that will have to expend money and huge amounts of time, is the person accursing. @@joshuawillingham6363
13:50 because public education has spent so long writing him out of history as a result of him seemingly glorifying violence and borderline vigilantism as an effective means of ensuring long term social progress that basically everyone that even knows about him are not in a position to actually make or even propose a large scale movie production about him
The uneducated get to watch an antihero duel slave owners and assassins as he fights for abolition - they just need to think he's cool. The educated might learn a thing or two about the simple and irrefutable fact that not all problems can or even should be solved peacefully. Pacifist ideologies do not survive through the ages for a reason. Non-pacifists make short work of them.
Ah yessss what a perfect reaction to get today lol. Glad to see more people watching this
Jack, I need to ask you a question. How would _anyone_ be able to spice up Clay's life for a movie?
The man's documentary would look like a freaking Action Movie. XD
Cassius Clay was someone I did a report on in highschool social studies but due to some unfavorable people at the top of my class I got removed out of the presentation line up instead people learned about Nikola Tesla and Che Guevara, me personally I feel as if they missed out on the oppurtunity to learn about a truly interesting man who didn't ask for much.
Don't apologize for that at the end of the video, one of the reasons I (and probably more people) keep comming back to your reactions is that you always give some knowledge of your own along with the reactions, it's kind of a double treat that not all reaction channels have.
Honestly. Too many blank useless reaction channels on this platform. We need more Jacks.
If life was a table top RPG, Cassius Clay would be the person that found a specific build that would allow him to spec in basically everything with (at least) a 20 in charisma! And the fact that that sounds like something Cassius Clay would do IRL out of spite to the DM speaks VOLUMES about the type of character he was!
Cassius Clay would be the kind of person to choose Fighter as his starting class and then min max it to the extreme.
With an alignment of: “Chaotic Good”. 😊
Imagine if cassius clay joined john brown on his raid on Harpers Ferry. Oh god I think they would've won
I respect Ali for having the balls to change his name... But for me, if I have the same name as this guy, I'M NOT CHANGING MY NAME.😂
The point he was making was it was rather ironic for Ali to change his name from a famous and righteous abolitionist to a literal save owner
But its a white name. White bad brown good. - Cassius Clay (I don't recognize the name change as it is moronic. Clay would be bigoted against me for several reasons. But he would still treat me as human. Mohamed would make me a concubine if he deemed me worthy of life. Otherwise just kill me.
I respect Ali for being a badazz in the ring. Outside of the ring he was a f’n moron.
Historically accurate biography movies of Cassius Clay would be in action genre.
holy hell this man just wanted all the smoke people need to talk about him more he did so much crazy ass shit
Just found your channel and I agree. Cassius Clay should either be an AC protagonist or one of the main side characters.
Why isn't there a movie? This guy stands for everything Hollywood is against, and there is no way they are going to make a movie about someone about him.
Exactly why there ain't a movie about it.
Which is crazy considering he was the most progressive guy of his time and willing to put anyone in the ground that didn't agree with him. Which is what Hollywood is also about
@@Taygon45problem is, he had progressive principles _and a remotely fucking worthwhile spine at the same damn time._
That's a combo that we have been forbidden _the capacity_ to compute for decades.
Y'know, lest we do _literally anything_ but "shut up, sit down and let those who prove their qualifications for their positions _just by being_ in said positions _maybe actually bother_ to """reach across the aisle""" to the clear, present, and _actual_ psychotic write-offs"...
@@seand.g423
Him and Abe Lincoln set a pretty good tone right at the start of the Republican party.
Someone should call the Daily Wire.
That picture of Col Sanders had me cuttin up and laughin so hard I had to pause the video to get my laughter under control before unpausing the video
I have seen a couple of reactions to this video. Yours is the best by a huge margin because you clearly understand more historical context.
I knew this video was a banger when I heard ‘I want problems always’
Speaking about dueling, Otto von Bismarck was quite the prolific duelist in his younger days. 26 wins out of 27 duels and the one he lost he kept insisting it only happened because his rapier broke
Henry Clay was probably the most powerful Speaker of the House there's ever been, for his entire life.
I agree, I want to see this movie.
Also, it isn't that weird to have a "home defense" cannon.
That’s it, I’m changing my name to Cassius Clay
In the Bible, slavery is treated as lawful but awful. You willingly entered into slavery in order to pay back a debt. And in exchange, your master had to treat you well and take care of you. There were severe punishments for those who did not. After seven years, when your debt was paid, you went free with a clean slate. Unless you chose to remain a servant. Then, while you were treated as a member of the family and had the authority to act on your master's name, you were pierced through the ear as a punishment.
It was considered a disgrace to stay after your term was up. Slavery in the Bible was never meant in the same way as the Romans enslaved the Jews, the Egyptians enslaved the Jews, or Africans enslaved and sold each other to the Europeans. They aren't the same
Thank you
Thank you sir, too many people don't understand anything about the Holy Bible and just parrot idiots.
I just commented the same thing. I've asked so many people to explain why slavery is wrong without Biblical views. Nobody has been able to do it
The bible also took slaves after wars not just debt slaves... so yes the Bible does* in fact like it's slaves and it's genocides
Because there was no Greek word for "endentured servitude," the word "slav" was used. Slav is where we get the English word slave. Also in the Bible, after 7 years, all debts were considered paid whether it was in fact paid off or not, because it was not preferable to keep people in such servitude.
The absolute unit couldn't be killed until he chose to die because he had already fought and defeated the grim reaper as a young man. Prove to me otherwise.
Death can have Me when it Earns Me!
The only American polticians I can think of that are close to that level of based is John Quincy Adams and James Garfield.
James Garfield. Andrew Garfield is an actor.
Oh hell yeah Spider-Man is awesome
Teddy Roosevelt
Clay is a once in a millennium type of man.
A group of people tries to assassinate Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay "Oh...It looks like I'm going to be leveling my one handed weapon skill again aren't I?"
O_O
Well done young man! Enjoyed this immensely.
FE here doesn't have an episode on Mad Jack so far, but if that is a thing you want to do an episode on, Count Dankula has a Absolute Mad Lads episode about the man.
The most gangster Marine would be a great video to keep with the trend
Went to school in Kentucky we learned a lot about this wonderful man
If Ali had seen this video, he would have never changed his name.
Holy shit, usually people doing reaction videos are like Jon Snow and "know nothing". Despite not knowing about this guy beyond his existence (which tbf, is more than most people. Nobody knows he exists. I didn't know he existed until Fat Electricians video myself) you know your shit. Thats refreshing. And ontop of that your sense of humor is legit. You got yourself a new sub my dude.
Congrats on your baby girl. It is indeed an amazing feeling to hold them for the first time.
I like that you go beyond basic history when you decide to debate a subject.
Two things my government teacher taught me in high school were. 1 learn all sides of an agreement to support your side and 2 there are three sides to ever story/accident (yours, mine and what really happen)
To your dismay I can tell you that this kind of thing still happens in America. Here's a long story cut short. My baby mama was living in Tucson Arizona and not on a good path. Her man at the time went to the bus station to go to work and forgot his headphones. When he got back home to get them he found two men trying to wrap her up in a blanket (she was out cold coming down from drugs or on them). Boyfriend beats one of them unrecognizable while the other one runs off. He then chases that dude down, tackles him and ends up cutting him open ear to ear like the joker. Cops show up and they actually commend him because the guy he cut open is well known by them in the sex trafficking circuit and they've been trying to find him for years. This scumbag turns around and from prison presses charges and boyfriend goes to jail for 2 years.
Am from Kentucky. Can confirm, we got some crazy motherfuckers that are oddly inspirational.
It is likely that Ali's family were slaves at the Clay plantation being that they are from Kentucky (Ali is from Louisville, KY) and slaves often took the last name of their master
Exactly what part of this actual comic book superhero's story needs to be "EMBELLISHED???"
Love your enthusiasm and insight, good reaction brother 🙏✌️
Oh, Harlan Sanders was kind of a bad-ass, too. According to the History Channel's "The Food That Built America", Sanders got in a couple of gun battles with a rival business competitor, before the founding of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Nothing like Cassius Clay, though.
Cassius was the actual literal embodiment of "Fight me about it"
Cassius Clay had that *dawg* in him 🐕
loven the fat electrician reacts please keep it going he has many great videos
"home defense canon" ... my brain: "how bout a homedefense Nuke xD
When he talked about the iron corridor, I thought of Peter Griffin when they had a podcast and asked the question of how many fourth graders they could fight. Peter said he’d stand in a narrow hallway and take them on one at a time. The stood up and kicked the air repeatedly and saying. Dead, dead, dead.
I can imagine Cassius formulating a similar thought.
Cassius Clay at any given time: MORTAL KOMBAT
You should look up the story of Bass Reeves if you haven't already. First black U.S. Marshall west of the Mississippi during the height of the Wild West, single handedly captured over 3,000 armed and dangerous fugitives, all but 14 ofbthem alive. He had such a reputation as being an unstoppable badass that fugitives that even caught rumor of Reeves coming for them would be snough to turn themselves in because they didn't want to go to jail tired.
Let's go! Gotta do the Dan Daly video next
FYI berea college still exists in berea Kentucky and is free. When I say free I mean every student there is on a complete free ride. Books tuition housing food. Paid for. Grades help to get you in however it’s the application process that actually wins you a spot. They want students that are actually dedicated to their education not just ones with amazing grades. Your application can get you in to the door for an interview and B student can win out over an A student if they can show the dedication to their own education. These places are numbered each year and they are looking for the most dedicated deserving individuals that will be most likely to stay their course and complete their degree. And the college is respected among other colleges and businesses and alumni from berea are known to be successful. It’s worth investigating if you know anyone that is looking to go to college. It seems to me that this school is one of americas best kept secrets that’s not a secret. I am always surprised that most people don’t know of this school.
I recommend the music video the unkillable soldier by sabaton if you havent already watched it
Oh, my, he is a comic character! The O.G., O.G Batman! 😂🤙🤙
You may not know this, even Thomas Jefferson killed a man in a duel.
This brother has max charisma
The reason why they didn't make a movie about him is because he was fighting against Democrats.
Hollywood and the government is terrified it will unite the country. They have worked too hard to divide the country to allow that to happen..
Whay we have not a fucking movie about this guy!. He literally him!
Everyone needs a home defence cannon
20:47 he literally began the copypasta.
It’s not only a sin there hasn’t been movies made about this man, but if he was even mentioned in my history classes here in the US it was extremely brief and I totally missed it. I really never heard about the man for years and I’ve literally asked pretty much everyone I know and nobody really knew the history of the man and it’s a damn shame..
Cassius clay needs to be featured in Baki
Or Record of Ragnarok
The part I like most about him standing up for his men in the POW camp is the fact that his command was made up of soldiers from Kentucky. I.E. His men likely hated his guts, and I'm sure they made him aware of it. He did what he did despite that. That's pure speculation of course, just seems likely to me.
Ah a fresh chill zone upload. Hell yeah
I am STILL mildly unhappy I wasn't told about this guy as a little kid at school.
You are right on. Black people didn't know about about clay because of politicians
It’s clear that Cassius was the main character of the 1800’s slavery era.
Please keep that mustache forever i love it :3
Your mustache is fantastic
9:00 Perfect!
Cassius Clay did not die, he Reincarnated to Chuck Norris
Sounds like a Tarantino film
Cassius Clay
I wouldn't necessarily call him the good guy, but he's definitely the Bad Guy's Bad Guy.
Thanks for this reaction.
Hello! Average fat electrician viewer, dunno your main community but as an american, the school systems we have didnt even MENTION this guy once. If i had a history teacher like nick, i would have graduated high school XD
He really is a great real world modern example of the paladin archetype, he WILL do the right thing and has no qualms about spilling blood in the name of good whether it's his or yours if you're stupid enough to oppose him.
Also yeah so many people don't realise just how many African slaves the Islamic world has taken over the centuries, largely because they don't have a large modern black population in those places that you would expect from places that previously kept them as slaves, the reason being that they would castrate them when they took them. So there are few to no descendants of enslaved people to speak out for those taken and the modern peoples there aren't exactly going around letting everyone know what their ancestors did.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE COPYPASTA OF THE CANNON ON THE STAIRS IS A REAL STORY????????
He is the nuke
He’s the main character
That is the beauty of Amrericans. We have the choice to make a choice. Even if that choice is not right to others. But you do have to follow your faith which ever way it goes. As long as that choice does not hurt others.
You wouldn't even need to embellish anything in a film about Cassius Clay. His life was just that insane. If anything, Hollywood would probably have to downplay some of the stuff in his life just to give the other action films a chance.
11:20 Sadly, Colonel Sanders would not perfect his recipe until 1939.
Well, under current U.S. law you CAN face criminal charges in a self defense case if you go too far. Clay's situation is a bit murky, but if the assassin was already trying to escape and the threat against his life was over, then theoretically today's courts would likely view Clay as guilty of attempted murder and multiple counts of assault with a deadly weapon. In the modern day, legal self-defense only covers the immediate situation and the immediate threat. The second your life/health is no longer in danger, any extra damage you do to you assailant is considered a criminal act, as you are no longer defending yourself from harm, but instead going out of your way to attack someone else.
7:12
Yeah, that's like throwing down an all meat cookbook to talk about the benefits of veganism
His mama blessed him with a great name. I wonder if he knew the history of his name?
Count dankula has a video on mad jack Churchill. It's pretty good