Ask Dungeon Masters 2: Seth Skorkowsky & Dungeon Craft
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The feats being limiting idea reminded me of a phrase I heard somewhere, but don't remember where.
"Nobody fell off their horse until we added the Riding skill."
Fair warning I'm going to steal that. Makes a great point.
Timestamps for questions.
1:50 - "How do I introduce the concept of hirelings?"
5:19 - "Given a blank check, what is the most experimental RPG product you'd try to create?"
9:55 - "Do you prefer one-shots, mini-campaigns, or years-long grand campaigns?"
16:30 - "Looking at character sheets to solve problems"
27:35 - "What was one of the best sessions you've ever played, and what stood out about it?"
33:34 - "What are the best single-dungeon zines or books that can be dropped into a campaign with minor tweaking?"
36:20 - "What is your opinion on level 0 funnels?"
39:14 - "How do you mobilize players to take more risks?"
42:00 - "Do you use factions? If so, how do you use them?"
44:44 - "Do you use miniatures in your game? What do you think minis would add/subtract from your game?"
48:17 - "How do you handle a mid-session character death?"
52:34 - "What is your favorite thing to see in a RPG supplement?"
Thank you for doing this.
Thank you!
Thank you.
You are a saint.
Oh, snap. The three D&D channels I watch all in one video. Instalike
exactly what i thought xD
x 3
Same here.
This is a bad ass crossover!
Iknowright?
Seth: First level just stinks
Professor DM: *Confused in player death*
I feel like "old school" campaigns were able to go for years because they _weren't_ about the characters per se, they were about the world itself. Your particular PC (assuming you limited yourself to one) was simply your way of interacting with the world rather than this deeply-interdependent thing woven into prophecies and such. Changing characters meant shifting focus to another part of the setting, but the actions of the new group were no less impactful than the previous campaigns - and as a bunch of treasure hunters, there weren't usually apocalyptic threats popping up every single campaign.
I think that changed when we start being interested in the world itself and more in the heroes journey in that world.
I agree that it was about the world and not necessarily about the characters, but I'm of the opinion that the reason old school games went on for years is simply because there were less things competing (computer games especially) for player attention and time. The focus gradually shifted to being on the characters because that's what players generally want - so that better competes for grabbing and holding player attention and dedication these days.
@@Chuckler127 probably doesn’t help that most modern games are stuck to a very short level span, case and point fifth edition only has a 20 level spread.
There's a big difference in the end game, too. Look at AD&D 1e for example. The end game is building a Stronghold. Your level 8+ Fighter becomes a new powerful NPC patron for the next generation of adventurers. You leave a permanent impact on the world. The map is changed forever, but your first character's story ends. This is diametrically opposed to modern D&D.
And then everybody stood up and clapped as the grognard was vanquished forever, right?
But nah. I ain't wrong. The tone and expectations of the 1e campaign were fundamentally different, and it doesn't make anyone smart or enlightened to spew Rule Zero like it's a new or interesting observation in 2021. Thanks for playing anyway.
Seth, Professor Dungeon Master & Questing Beast all together? Talk about the coolest Avengers moment on TH-cam!!!
Supergroup
It's fun how seth seems uncomfortable at the beginning. Lack of a script?
Actually still missing Hank from RuneHammer !
I would also add Dave Thaumavore
To summon Runehammer I believe there must be an exotic ale offered to receive such a boon.
WHAT SORCERY IS THIS??? My three favorite content creators... TOGETHER?
That chicken dungeon had me cracking up. I love that the genesis of it was from a player's character's background. That to me is when D&D is best.
This is like when Captain America says 'Avengers Assemble!', but better.
Because it’s actually good?
Watching Prof. DM take time out of a show to hug someone off camera is about the most wholesome thing I've seen this week. Awesome!
Good to know if he kills one of my PCs, at least I could get a hug.
But first he nods a no. Probably the person insisted lol
How will Jack the NPC cope with being a footman? Viewers need to know.
More like Baldrick I imagine :-)
Loved it, it's really cool that you guys actually had differing opinions on multiple questions and yet respected and listened to each other. Much better than an echo chamber of similar styles, or a shouting match of "One true wayism".
this is exactly what i needed and i didn’t even know i needed it
Hey, I know ALL these fellas!
Dungeon Craft and Seth literally the two best DM TH-camrs, can't believe seeing them in the same call.
Seth and the Professor are two of my favourite D&D youtubers. You're not so bad yourself, Questing.
"I like one shots... you don't have to worry about if everyone is dead at the end." - Quoth the Professor. Base.
I would be happy to speak if you want to do an episode approaching the game from a "terrain" perspective.
@@richmcgee434 Even though I am known for terrain gaming I still use plenty theater of the mind in my games. To me it is all about practicality and what is the best way to deliver the goods.
A lot of cool insights
Also is so cool to have someone like Seth who knows the old stuff but usually plays new stuff. You can have a different prospective on things
Have them both back on please! You're basically my 3 favorite RPG-tubers!
The only thing missing is Hankerin Ferinale.
Please, do this again, with Seth and the Professor, and other guests. That would be great!
three of the best RPG youtubers together! This is excellent!
Seth, thank you for introducing me to these two channels. They have lots of good insights, just like you!!!👍
Hope y'all do more collaboration videos like this. Very entertaining and informative
Whoa! Three of my favorite DMs, all in one package! This is a great surprise ! I love it already!
Hello Seth Skorkowsky, internet here
Three of you should make a podcast! If you do that, you will win the internet! :D
Board games and video games: "You can do these things."
RPGs: "You can try anything."
Crunchy RPGs: "Actually you can only try these things, and if you try the ones that aren't YOUR thing, you're doing it wrong."
This is a trio I could get used to watching. Great stuff!
FYI Castle Greyhawk the farcical version is the adventure with the Dough Boy and Gummy Werebears.
This is an AMAZING module that everyone should read and run a level or two of now and again!!!!
13:20 when low-level is mentioned as a way to lengthen campaigns, or keep them running by limiting or avoiding overpowered PCs, it reminded me of the Cyberpunk 2020 (and Red) core book's suggestion to "keep it street level". I hadn't thought of its plot-lengthening effect, but if all the players are Keanu Reeves, no one is, in a sense. 🤔
@@kevinsullivan3448 nice concept, "Epic 6". I managed to find the Enworld thread etc about it. Could they have picked a harder to use search term though 🤣 without search-fu most of the results were either about a theoretical "6e", "episode 6" of various shows and podcasts, and all manner of "epic" things. At least they didn't call it "level 6", but it's close.
I watch all three great channels and love them, but cant say Ive ever seen a D&D episode on Skorkowsky? Did I miss anything?
He has done several D&D videos. Usually talking about older adventure modules. If you want a really good epic laugh watch his video called "For Thor". It is based on events that happened in a 1e AD&D game Seth ran.
McDeath, Professor? Is that not rather based on the 2nd edition warhammer scenario pack by the same name, then? Granted, that was in turn very much a funny adaptation of the work of The Bard, but with more orcs, chaos hounds and log-throwing crazed Caledonians. I remember having 1st ed AD&D characters in my parties leveling up way beyond level 10, but only a handful made it to 18-20 if any at all. We all got a chance to see how that would hve looked, though, in the brilliant SSI AD&D game series (I believe you had characters that went way beyond 30 in some of the titles). Even at that level, in the games at "hard" difficulty, they would always (and it is not just a way of saying for "pretty often") fail their hold person sve and get autokilled by giant rats or centipedes.
Three of my favorite RPG content guys all in one place! Thanks so much for putting this together.
I don't want to be this guy Ben, but ..... But is will never really be done. Find your friends and start them online. While it's not exactly the same as around the table, it's still good gaming. Then if things are good again after a couple years you bring them on over .
I thought nothing could top this crossover, and then QB went and dropped a Teen Girl Squad reference and kicked it into 5th gear
"They're basically the same thing, but one is round..."
Oooooooh.
Totally different centers of gravity, different weights putting stress on your wrist differently, different angles for attack. It's like saying "You've got a steak knife, a butter knife, and a spoon. They're all the same thing, just different amounts of roundness." Doing kendo, if I tried to swing a hammer or mace at someone the way I swing a sword, I'd probably break my wrist. :p
This ^
the three come together, illuminati confirmed
5e Archer: “I don’t have the ‘climb tree’ feat so I can’t climb this tree to get a good vantage point in combat”
I think there is another reason besides that. A lot of players don't want their PC to get injured unnecesserily or look foolish doing something they clearly aren't good at. So if there is a roll associated with climbing that tree (or the player assumes that) they look at their odds and likely skip that option.
If you're a new player used to board or computer games you are used to "games" having a fixed menu of things you can do and nothing else is allowed, and so players tend to look at their character sheet as providing that list, and if its not there you assume its breaking the rules to do it. Once you've been playing a while you come to understand the rules are there to help not to restrict your options, but it takes a while to get into that mindset.
You also get DMs who fall into the same mindset going for "roll an intimidation check" rather then getting the player to roleplay that out, which doesn't help the players learn.
@@kevinsullivan3448 I use feats, and don't have the mindset that you need the feat to do the thing. But that's just me.
I do require tool profeccencys to craft thoguh.
Excellent video, gents. It is very useful to hear the opinions of three well respected GMs. Both to learn alternate ways of approaching common situations and supporting the algorithms of all three. This is also of tremendous value to the young GMs who may perhaps feel overwhelmed by the breadth and depth of skills and techniques and knowledge that are part of the GM's tool kit. Ben doesn't use grids. Seth doesn't use factions. PDM adapted Bill Shakespeare. To see that a GM can be an expert without knowing and mastering ALL the SKILLZ is very encouraging. You can be excellent, too. You don't need to know and use all of it. Don't be overwhelmed. Everything is going to be okay.
Well done, gentlemen. You make our hobby look good. Especially PDM-- excellent tie and waistcoat, sir! Excellent moderation, Ben. Keep up the good work! I look forward to more collaborative videos.
Wow!! check out the all star panel... and to answer Prof's question, the zombies destroyed all the leather jackets before attacking. They are smart, they eat brains.
wow, awesome to see Seth and Dungeon Craft on here!
I love Seth quality videos, with Jack the NPC and the rest of the crew, but I realize my playstyle fits more with ProfDM. I couldn't help but agreee with everything he said (especially factions and slow XP). In any case, that was an awesome video. Thank you!
Props to Ben at 37:22 - Teen Girl Squad!
This was an awesome conversation with three of my favorite gaming vloggers. I'd love to see the three of you play in a game together some time.
Love DCC funnels! however many peasants survive get the reward of gaining level one! such an awesome idea!
9:45 there is a company that makes pencils with ashes, also comes with a box and built in sharpener to catch all the pencil shavings
You guys really made a good argument for not having classes. With my own rpg I was working without class but I was thinking of adding them later - essentially giving bonuses to certain things. But you convinced me it might be a bad idea.
My 3 favorite RPG youtube channels...This is just great. You guys really should do this more frequently, or maybe a podcast, or live play...
I know I'm not the only one
Ah my favorite channels in one. I just want to tell all three of you that youre doing a fantastic job to inspire me in my own game mastering ambitions
Three of my favorite DnD / Roleplaying youtubers! I tend to agree that feats and skills are great, but they do cause the PCs to pigeon hole themselves too much. The added game mechanics tend to slow things down as well. Like the professor I’ve had the same group since the very late 80s / early 90s. we’ve taken back to an amalgam 1/2e campaign with some home brew in there for good measure because the computer game feel of Pathfinder and 5e were wearing us down. Big fan of minis and maps but Covid has us online so we’re doing our best with Zoom meeting interactive screens
Skills in 5e seem so out of place. So funny to see characters that are calling down lightning and teleporting during battle have to roll 15 or higher to do comparably mundane tasks out of battle.
Well, in 5e, there aren't really set parameters for pretty much any application of a skill that isn't Medicine. So if you want to make a player make a skill check at all, it's entirely up to the DM to decide how difficult that is. Which is both good and bad.
where can i get that petty heresy generator?
!!! The Triumvirate of Masters !!! Joy. You made a lot of people happy today!!
I highly disagree that fighting with a sword is the same as fighting with a mace
Right? RIGHT!?!?!
Thank you!
😀 Well that's obviously right but I agree on the point that your fighter should know how to fight with it. And spear as well. And sword and buckler. And wrestle!
Two great tastes that taste great together! Ugh, that came off wrong.
Oh wow! I love Seth and Prof. Dungeon Master both so much! Really excited to listen to this :)
This is awsome, I am a fan of all three you guys, please do more episodes like this on either of your channels, thanks!
Superb I love this format! Very interesting!
Seth's Greyhawk module reference sounds like "Greyhawk Castle" which is this hilarious spoof dungeon. I've run the first level, Seth's sounds like the second level with a bit of modification.
Hey! Thanks for answering my miniature questions! Love your stuff, guys!
I wrote a level zero adventure meant to be the preface for new and experienced players set before Waterdeep Dragon Heist. I even laid out rules for creating classless level zero characters. Went over very well on the DMs Guild. I think level-zero is still so under utilized.
gr8 video. so much valuable info here. Factions - iv used them and have had pcs as members of rival factions before. It added good layers of intrigue but you need to know your players and the pcs motivations well to pull this off imo. inter party conflict is good in small doses but can create too much tension between players so use with caution.
I also just noticed Beast’s sigil poster map. I’d love to see some old planescape content on here!
I'm cool with human bone dice. It was donated, it was used for its purpose and retired. What else ya gonna do with it? Better than the torch.
One of the main reasons skills work in CoC and Runequest, is that players only get better at the skills they use!
I like the substantive disagreement on characters looking down for the skills and how it slows play. I think Professor Dungeonmaster is onto something. It really seems to work for CoC but I hate it in dnd, and am really drawn to B/X as a result. I lean more towards liking players interacting with the fiction as opposed to relying on skills like Beast was saying.
@@kevinsullivan3448 That honestly doesn't help, because once you tell them that, they will choose the option they know has the best chance of success. The only way to prevent it is either make checks easier or waive them entirely more often.
@@kevinsullivan3448 I believe that's in almost every TTRPG. People just forget it sometimes.
"The Wizards Three" in video format. Please do more of this, Ben! You guys are different enough in your approaches and preferences that it makes for really engaging conversation.
Fun video! It’s interesting to see 3 grand Dungeon masters talking about gaming
First ever OSR super-group!
Love the polite cold shoulder to the DCC funnel, "Cute once."
This was great to listen to! I especially liked the hirelings and chicken cults hahaha
When my fav DnD youtubers meet...
I got… 1d12 kids to feed!
Roll that at a +2 for fertility
we in 5e these days it'd be at advantage
@@schmecklez That doesn't really work in this instance.
@@NecromancyForKids yes it does
@@schmecklez Advantage is only applied to d20 rolls, and usually you add modifiers to the rolls anyways. You don't have "advantage" on damage rolls, even if there are some abilities which give a similar bonus.
Seth Skorkowsky & Dungeon Craft in one video! Don't let the beams cross!!!
I just love how they are both long-term GMs. So relaxed and chill. These are my kind of GMs. Just sitting back and talking shop.
Regarding the gemstone dice, I remember the store I used to visit as a wee lad had genuine emerald, saphire, gold and the cheaper crystal dice that were between a hundred to basically a thousand bucks. I don't think they ever sold them in the 30 years but it sure was pretty in the cabinet. I know some gold were bought and I heard the mass of them damage everything they're thrown on. Pretty tho.
I love the bulletin board idea!
Yay! My 2 favorite D&D youtubers!
Super big props QB on the Teen Girl Squad reference!
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone caught this. Was a real blast from the past!
Thank you for putting this together, the contrast in style, and the discussion were amazing.
This is the best stuff ever. I want MORE of this. A podcast a series of you guys.
These three are my absolute favorite RPG TH-camrs. Add in Hank from Runehammer and you really have a supergroup!
That's a STELLAR lineup!
Where’s Hank from RuneHammer ?
He would be good on a terrain building discussion.
@@dirus3142 have you seen all his videos of game mechanisms and DM advice? After all, he created Index Card RPG.
That was always one of those things I never understood about non-humans, particularly Elves in 1st Edition AD&D, is you have this person who lives 400-1000 years compared with a Human, but the Elf has a level cap? -- I never played with Racial level limits. All these groups that outlived Humans, (in the case of Dwarf and Elf in particular) who had level caps between 7-10th level, depending on their class choice.
Feats dont add options, feats limit options, they act as a barrier. This is what happens with rules heavy systems.
I agree
Insane collaboration of my favourite channels, awesome!
The Holy Trinity!
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Seth.
Gygax diamond dice is a great idea. :D
37:30 HOMESTARRUNNER!!!!!!!!!!
Is it Christmas again, or is this an early Valentine's day gift?
Regarding skill-based games, the 2nd game system I was ever introduced to was the Heroes Unlimited (1st Edition, later 2nd Edition) game that utilizes the Palladium Megaverse character sheets for drawing up Super Heroes and Super Villains. I have always been used to games that utilize "skill" systems, considering 1st Edtion AD&D Thief class had percentile-based skill systems for the specialized things they were able to do that other classes could not. When I found Zweihander recently, I really dug the idea that the Ability Scores were also generated using Percentile Dice!
Prof DM: "But Chickens are flightless birds."
Player: "Flightless bird? That MF Fly as hell!"
Seth, that were a couple of levels in the Castle Greyhawk book, one had the the Gummi Werebears and Poppinfarsh, and one later adventure that had soda elementals and Colonel Sanders! One level also had stuff stolen from other RPG's! I usually have a backup character, but i like making characters!
great idea on the book questing beast, an entire compendium of cut away isometric buildings would be an incredible way to run an adventure, "id buy that for a dollar!" (-Robocop)
You wouldn't use a mace by default, you'd use a Polearm usually (including a Lance if mounted). A mace is a sidearm used by nobles not a primary weapon of normal soldiers. The way to take out someone in plate who is unmounted is to get four of your friends to tackle them cut away their helmet and stab them through the eye.
@@kevinsullivan3448 seems like there are many historical accounts of this kind of thing from all around the world. There's a reason why wrestling was the default hand to hand training for nearly every historical warrior. I personally know nothing about sca stuff, just what was recorded in historical documents.
King Richard III was killed in this exact way at the battle of bosworth btw.
@@kevinsullivan3448 my main point was that a Polearm is the go to weapon on the battlefield, and that if you aren't equipped to damage the armor you have to overwhelm them with numbers and try to knock them off their feet. Usually you'd ransom a knight anyway rather than kill them. In Japanese 14th c warfare they have a lot of descriptions of fighting in groups of five or so and getting three guys on one opponent, or using a Polearm shaped similar to a rake to knock the opponent down while an ally uses a short weapon to finish them off and decapitate them. There are tons of grappling techniques against armored opponents in fechtbucher as well both mounted and unmounted. It's clearly a historical technique to wrestle opponents to the ground in some manner used larger numbers and then capturing or dispatching them.
@@kevinsullivan3448 really a goedendag is more accurate than a mace. Basically a short spear /club hybrid. But a mace is a specific kind of club.
@@kevinsullivan3448 yeah, that's what I've said from the beginning. Lacking a Polearm you would try to knock the opponent down. Even if you have a Polearm it's still good if you can manage to knock them down, as in a frontline press they're in serious trouble. The other main point is that maces which have a one foot haft were not the immediate go to against heavy armor.
Mid level death have them at zero and kill them later at the end of the session. Either fast forward them to their deathbed or the monster cripples them to the point of death.
Thank you so much for answering my question! You guys are the best. My three favorite D&D channels. Stars without Numbers is a gem, already working on a way to homebrew their faction system into my game.