That sounds really good! When you rev it, sounds like a new engine. I have an Elgin in my shed I found on the curb. Looks clean, just needs a pull rope.. Maybe more.. idk. Yet.
These are great videos. I’m from Wisconsin & remember seeing all these old fishing motors as a kid. The simplicity & engineering that went into all these products back in the day are a testimonial to how products were made with common sense & simplicity to last for decades. My dad had a Johnson sea horse 7.5hp & a Sears Ted Williams 7.5hp fishing motor. The Sears was really cool. Pound for pound was the lightest motor I ever seen. Only weighed 41 pounds. Had a weedless propeller & an auto siphon bailer hose connected to the lower unit near the water pump impeller to suck excess water in bottom of the boat. We’re talking Elon Must style engineering in the 1960’s.🤓🧐
@MrNorm-Ir5iv Thanks for watching the “golden age” of outboard innovation on my channel and I’m glad you also appreciate the products of the era. I have two videos of one of the Sears engines you mentioned on the channel though they are badged as an Elgin and a Wizard.
@@GearHeadJP custom? Do tell! I get 18/19 on my Sea Nymph 14R. It's got a 64" beam and 32" maximum depth. Weighs 270# empty. But the prop I'm running I believe to be the original and it's 'chunky'. I'd love to find something better!
I use propellers from all different brand engines and propeller manufacturers and adapt the hubs to the prop shaft and then scratch my head a lot and start cutting, beating, shaping, thinning, testing and repeat… on a very good day, I get it first stab. Pitch gauge measurements at crucial points will get you in the ballpark, the rest is way to much to even type here.
Had one a 12HP Elgin was given to me in the mid 1960S as a kid ran great. West Bends were really good motors when Chrysler bought them out then changed to Force they seemed to go down slowly in quality somewhat. They are strong runners had a 7.5HP Elgin eggbeater style that motor ran like a 10HP .. shes in nice shape & sounds great and probably putting out 15HP at the prop..
@GearHeadJP Where could I source a coil for one of these? I have a 1958 West Bend Barracuda 12hp with a cracked coil; I assume it uses the same ignition parts as this Elgin. I know some people swap with universal OMC coils or something like that but I'm not sure with the process or anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated! The serial number on my West Bend is S1. Model is 12802
The coils were the same on all of the 12’s that I’ve worked on. I too have converted a couple to the OMC coils and they ran great. However, you really have to pay attention to wire routing so as not to let any one of them be rubbed by the flywheel.
@skiphinson8620 The actual purpose wasn’t advertised, but my best guess is either for rental stations that used these engines and wanted to limit certain clientele, OR for the average user to limit speed with 5hp for their kid whose just learning boating, or limit with 7.5hp for your neighbor that thinks he knows how to operate a boat. 😂
Sweet motor! How important is cavitation plate height/depth to reach those speeds ? My setup is 3.5 to 4 inches below the back of the boat and 8 mph is max with my 15 that runs good but hit the speeds you do. Btw your channel is awesome!
Thank you for your input. I ran this engine right on the transom. I have a Sea Nymph 12K which probably weighs about 110lbs. However, unlike a lot of people do, I never put any weight in the bow, and I don’t adjust the engine for negative trim. If the engine is running right and it has a good design propeller, and engine trim angle is adjusted properly, the boat should handle fine and reach higher speeds.
It likes the12 hp setting! Great job!
Haha, it sure does!
That’s got to be the coolest motor I’ve seen.
It’s one of my favorites! It does everything you could ask of it on a small boat.
i really like that motor,it runs nice and quiet for 66 years old is a champ,hello from florida
Hello from northern country. You can’t beat these WB 12’s!
That looks like a motor that was ahead of its time. Sweet.
Yes it was
That sounds really good! When you rev it, sounds like a new engine. I have an Elgin in my shed I found on the curb. Looks clean, just needs a pull rope.. Maybe more.. idk. Yet.
@whathappened2230 These things are great! Get yours ago, you’ll like it.
These are great videos. I’m from Wisconsin & remember seeing all these old fishing motors as a kid. The simplicity & engineering that went into all these products back in the day are a testimonial to how products were made with common sense & simplicity to last for decades. My dad had a Johnson sea horse 7.5hp & a Sears Ted Williams 7.5hp fishing motor. The Sears was really cool. Pound for pound was the lightest motor I ever seen. Only weighed 41 pounds. Had a weedless propeller & an auto siphon bailer hose connected to the lower unit near the water pump impeller to suck excess water in bottom of the boat. We’re talking Elon Must style engineering in the 1960’s.🤓🧐
@MrNorm-Ir5iv Thanks for watching the “golden age” of outboard innovation on my channel and I’m glad you also appreciate the products of the era. I have two videos of one of the Sears engines you mentioned on the channel though they are badged as an Elgin and a Wizard.
That thing is impressive. Lots of power and sounds awesome too.
California banned two stroke boat engines a lot of lakes here wont let you run them dam government.
@bassbustingman The government takes the fun out of everything.
@@erocker78 That's a bingo
Waterskied behind one of them on a12' aluminum jon boat when I was 85# 12 yr.old back in the day!
Nice!
Y. As a kid, I had the Elgin 12 on a 12 ft. plywood skiff, 1960. Very fast & reliable. 63 lbs.
@chrisconsidine4322 Wow, that must have flown!
What a neat motor.. Murica
Running on a 14' or a 12' boat? I've got the '59- 12hp and man does it surprise! Awesome performance JP
12’. These things are great! I made a custom propeller for it.
@@GearHeadJP custom? Do tell! I get 18/19 on my Sea Nymph 14R. It's got a 64" beam and 32" maximum depth. Weighs 270# empty. But the prop I'm running I believe to be the original and it's 'chunky'. I'd love to find something better!
I use propellers from all different brand engines and propeller manufacturers and adapt the hubs to the prop shaft and then scratch my head a lot and start cutting, beating, shaping, thinning, testing and repeat… on a very good day, I get it first stab. Pitch gauge measurements at crucial points will get you in the ballpark, the rest is way to much to even type here.
Had one a 12HP Elgin was given to me in the mid 1960S as a kid ran great. West Bends were really good motors when Chrysler bought them out then changed to Force they seemed to go down slowly in quality somewhat. They are strong runners had a 7.5HP Elgin eggbeater style that motor ran like a 10HP .. shes in nice shape & sounds great and probably putting out 15HP at the prop..
I haven’t found a West Bend that I don’t like. I agree with your points about build quality over the years.
I like that turn key power motor. Seems to run good too.
You just can’t beat those West Bends!
The horse power switch is very interesting. Does it just limit throttle?
Yes
@GearHeadJP Where could I source a coil for one of these? I have a 1958 West Bend Barracuda 12hp with a cracked coil; I assume it uses the same ignition parts as this Elgin. I know some people swap with universal OMC coils or something like that but I'm not sure with the process or anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated! The serial number on my West Bend is S1. Model is 12802
The coils were the same on all of the 12’s that I’ve worked on. I too have converted a couple to the OMC coils and they ran great. However, you really have to pay attention to wire routing so as not to let any one of them be rubbed by the flywheel.
Lovely little motor
Thank you
Super cool outboard.
What was the purpose of switching the HP settings?
@skiphinson8620 The actual purpose wasn’t advertised, but my best guess is either for rental stations that used these engines and wanted to limit certain clientele, OR for the average user to limit speed with 5hp for their kid whose just learning boating, or limit with 7.5hp for your neighbor that thinks he knows how to operate a boat. 😂
Thanks. That makes sense.
@skiphinson8620 👍
Don't understand the hp switch. Maybe if you rented these, you could charge based on setting?
I think it may have been for safety concerns dependent on intended user.
through prop exhaust?????
No
@@GearHeadJP that why is sounds so good , love two stroke anything
Sweet motor! How important is cavitation plate height/depth to reach those speeds ? My setup is 3.5 to 4 inches below the back of the boat and 8 mph is max with my 15 that runs good but hit the speeds you do. Btw your channel is awesome!
Thank you for your input. I ran this engine right on the transom. I have a Sea Nymph 12K which probably weighs about 110lbs. However, unlike a lot of people do, I never put any weight in the bow, and I don’t adjust the engine for negative trim. If the engine is running right and it has a good design propeller, and engine trim angle is adjusted properly, the boat should handle fine and reach higher speeds.
So dam cool !
@marcchaffee7751 one of my favorites.
Огромное спасибо за информацию первый раз вижу такое чудо техники мотор бомба вам здоровья и удачи привет из Харькова
There’s more where that came from! Thanks for tuning in and all the best to you.
Sharp unit.
Thanks. I agree. One of those hidden gems.
I love it❤
One of my favorites!
👍👍.............
you should repaint it the same original colors
It’s too clean to repaint.
Mine was white & teal
Sounds just like a omc 8-10 hp
Just about right!?!
that preforms like a 20 hp
They are great!
I could keep up with OMC 18 easy
You literally running as fast as a 25hp
They are amazing!