There's so much going on here, man. Oz is hard to read, overall. In some sense he feels like an open book, in another sense he feels like he's always putting on the perfect act. To me, it feels like we're getting the most real Oz when he's with Vic. He's a very lonely man who wants to be respected and looked up to. He tries to act like a father figure to Vic, because he sees his past self in Vic - a young kid with nothing, nobody to rely on, and some kind of disability that lowers him in the eyes of his peers - Vic's stutter and Oz's clubfoot. He's projecting so much on Vic, but he feels like he's doing good for Vic and he's genuinely trying. When Vic reveals that fear of leaving, of not knowing what Oz is gonna do, it hurts Oz so deeply. It's always rough when you see how a relationship you thought was good was viewed in an entirely different, negative light, but for Oz, someone so lonely from start, man. He almost starts crying, then hides behind his tough guy persona and "it's not me, it's the world." This is great acting and great writing.
I think what's so fantastic about him as a villain and so disturbing, is the truths and the lies with Oz are indistinguishable. He clearly cares for Vic, he clearly feels bad about betraying Sofia after this. He is so emotional in this scene that he really does have rage at the world for being unfair to honest people and Vic. But ultimately, deep down, he is so selfish, deceptive and amoral that he still commits the worst acts of evil to benefit himself regardless. And he believes his own lies.
"[If] you think your nothin, you are nothin till the day you die. I though you was smart. But that's the life you want Vic then good news, you already got it." Such a good line.
Bro, I came back to this scene to remind myself why I stopped going after some girl who really meant a lot to me. Had to remind myself why I'm trading. I have nothing.
Victor is like bruce, losing his family from anothers motive but not being rich never allowed him to go into hero mode, victor is literally our bruce wayne without the money and i wouldnt be suprise if he becomes the antihero
I think the path ahead is gonna get darker for him. He'll become powerful but it will cost him his innocence, and some of his humanity like how we see with Oz not caring about killing.
0:53 Notice how in the scene before this oz scolds a waiter for rushing victors stuttering. And this scene oz rushes victors stuttering. It shows how he never cared for him. He played him and killed him
I think he cared for him, but in his own unbelievably twisted, sociopathic kind of way. I mean, this is a guy who killed his own brothers after all. Yet he loved them to some degree.
There's a bit of a difference tbf. The waiter cut Vic off and didn't even know Vic. Where Oz knows Vic and has always given him the respect to finish his sentence. But this was a tense situation and Oz didn't want Vic stuttering and feeling nervous. He wanted Vic to come out with it and be truthful and give it to Oz straight. But I get your point.
Tony Soprano and Heath Ledger joker molded into one. Only three episodes and I can stay with confidence, this is the show of the year. That is saying a lot with some of the gems released in 2024.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Colin Farrell literally becomes the penguin just like Heath ledger became joker in the dark knight with make up and prosthetics and great acting same as Colin as penguin
Oz was trying to be that OG gangster back in his day that helped everyone out, lent a hand if you needed it. Like Oz said "there's different kinds of power" Oz had power but was kind to those who earned his kindness and generosity, Vic was one of those people. But I can't blame Vic, Oz did try to kill him in the pilot. Vic just like any of us would have thought Oz would clip you if you were to leave. So I get why both sides feel the way they do, truly a sad and powerful scene.
Every scene Oz was with Vic it felt like he was manipulating him in some way or another, but what he says at 2:54 feels like the most genuine Oswald will ever be
I love how the way Oz talks looks and feels so forced despite controlling his tone enough to routinely sound genuine. Makes complete sense if he has no loyalty, and ultimately no heart.
This scene hits different after the finale, because Oz was right. I know we as audience mourn over Vic. But he made the choice, he chose security and pleasuee over being good and having a nice girl in his life. Just like Jesse Pinkman. Christopher Moltisanti. Victor made a deal with the devil
Little known fact: in one version of the comics an orphan called Jason Todd tries to steal a wheel off the batmobile when Batman catches him. That orphan eventually becomes Robin. Sound familiar? :)
Victor should have just left. And after watching the finale it is clear in this scene Oz was just manipulating Victor and using him. Poor kid didn't deserve what happened to him.
Oz: Vic youll be the bag boy tonight vic. Were all relying on you bagboy. Vic goes to start distributing the new drug. Sophia: You think he bought it? Oz: I sure hope so. Dam vic never stood a chance.
“You are nothing until the day you die.” that line hits even harder after what oz did to Vic.
There's so much going on here, man. Oz is hard to read, overall. In some sense he feels like an open book, in another sense he feels like he's always putting on the perfect act. To me, it feels like we're getting the most real Oz when he's with Vic. He's a very lonely man who wants to be respected and looked up to. He tries to act like a father figure to Vic, because he sees his past self in Vic - a young kid with nothing, nobody to rely on, and some kind of disability that lowers him in the eyes of his peers - Vic's stutter and Oz's clubfoot. He's projecting so much on Vic, but he feels like he's doing good for Vic and he's genuinely trying. When Vic reveals that fear of leaving, of not knowing what Oz is gonna do, it hurts Oz so deeply. It's always rough when you see how a relationship you thought was good was viewed in an entirely different, negative light, but for Oz, someone so lonely from start, man. He almost starts crying, then hides behind his tough guy persona and "it's not me, it's the world." This is great acting and great writing.
He made Vic a driver like him too
Yup you can literally hear how hurt oz got when his voice started shaking a bit with the gun pointing
I think what's so fantastic about him as a villain and so disturbing, is the truths and the lies with Oz are indistinguishable. He clearly cares for Vic, he clearly feels bad about betraying Sofia after this. He is so emotional in this scene that he really does have rage at the world for being unfair to honest people and Vic.
But ultimately, deep down, he is so selfish, deceptive and amoral that he still commits the worst acts of evil to benefit himself regardless. And he believes his own lies.
"They dont give out awards for dying in the projects"
Sheesh
Honestly that line hit like a bag of bricks. Collin Farrell is killing it in this role.
Powerful.
Yeah that line hit hella hard
This scene almost made me tear up. Best show I watch so far this decade
Facts
Whwoever wrote this show needs a raise
You remember when you dumped nacho cheese all over yourself and went down the slip n slide?
This decade had a bunch of better shows like Better Call Saul. But this Penguin show is still solid.
@TawsifEC The Penguin, four episodes in, is already better than BCS.
Colin Farrell completely disappears in this role. The makeup team should've won an Oscar for penguin alone. I hope this show wins an Emmy.
VIC, GET ON THE BUS VIC, VIC!!!
"[If] you think your nothin, you are nothin till the day you die. I though you was smart. But that's the life you want Vic then good news, you already got it." Such a good line.
He’s killing it In this role
@@adamantium4999 Literally…😢
Oz's speech here made me pause and rethink my life, no joke.
Bro, I came back to this scene to remind myself why I stopped going after some girl who really meant a lot to me. Had to remind myself why I'm trading. I have nothing.
Really captures Penguin’s biggest insecurity. His fear of rejection. Perfection.
Victor is like bruce, losing his family from anothers motive but not being rich never allowed him to go into hero mode, victor is literally our bruce wayne without the money and i wouldnt be suprise if he becomes the antihero
prolly this universe's redhood
Great point... 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
I think the path ahead is gonna get darker for him. He'll become powerful but it will cost him his innocence, and some of his humanity like how we see with Oz not caring about killing.
@@Bigcheifer Vic's most likely gonna Die. Due to being involved in the gang life.
This hits different after the finale 😕
Fr. Ep 3 was one of the strongest episodes but ep8 was by far the darkest. We know who Oz is now.
@@standardreplicantKD6-3.7We always knew what Oz was, people just gave him the benefit of the doubt and forgot that he was a snake.
The hurt when you realized Victor could live if he didn't came back to Oz😢😢
The Penguin was the devil man he was always tempting and manipulating Victor
I never thought I would hear such life truth from a Batman villain
Its like jesse leaving walter white all over again
"You're not leaving, because IF YOU LEAVE YOU GET NOTHING!"
@@joseluis5055"if you believe there's a hell...we're pretty much going there. But I'm not gonna lie down til I get there!"
aged horribly... shouldve left
Penguin did him so dirty after this. He came back and made sacrifices for the penguin promises. Vic should've just left
The Bagman. I was laughing so hard here. xD
Kinda cool nick name tbh 😅
0:53 Notice how in the scene before this oz scolds a waiter for rushing victors stuttering. And this scene oz rushes victors stuttering. It shows how he never cared for him. He played him and killed him
I think he cared for him, but in his own unbelievably twisted, sociopathic kind of way. I mean, this is a guy who killed his own brothers after all. Yet he loved them to some degree.
He cared for him the most a psychopathic killer could, but at the end of the day it wasn't enough
Colin Farrell deserves an award for this.
"That's the guy, Graciela. Oswald Cobblepot, the guy I went to hell for."
Honestly Oz has a point he wasn’t holding a gun to Victor‘s head and said you work for me now he chose to be his friend and help him with his errands
Oz is a great manipulator don't ever forget that
After watching the last episode, Vic should have left when he had the chance😢
Glad victor decided what he wants to be finally
He will probably be back with the penguin when he needs help lol
@@xAwesomeGamershes already back at the end of the episode
@@xAwesomeGamers did u not finish the episode?
@@jarrodedson5441nah mfs just watch clips and shorts these days since the attention span is gettin smaller.
He shoulda left
They will for sure end up like Tony and Chrissy.
You called it…
Dang, even the suffocating part you got. Crazy haha
welcome to the real world kid
Reel woiiild
It makes me laugh when Penguin loses his patience with Victor's stuttering, but earlier in the episode he checked the waiter for doing the same thing.
There's a bit of a difference tbf. The waiter cut Vic off and didn't even know Vic.
Where Oz knows Vic and has always given him the respect to finish his sentence.
But this was a tense situation and Oz didn't want Vic stuttering and feeling nervous.
He wanted Vic to come out with it and be truthful and give it to Oz straight.
But I get your point.
It was not the stuttering...The Penguin trusts very few...and felt betrayed by Vick wanting to leave him
Tony Soprano and Heath Ledger joker molded into one. Only three episodes and I can stay with confidence, this is the show of the year. That is saying a lot with some of the gems released in 2024.
haven't seen the show how's he like ledger's joker
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259I think what he’s saying is Colin feral is penguin what Heath ledger is to joker
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Colin Farrell literally becomes the penguin just like Heath ledger became joker in the dark knight with make up and prosthetics and great acting same as Colin as penguin
@@jaimeherber8353 oh OK that makes sense
@@omarcarlos537 thanks
Oz was trying to be that OG gangster back in his day that helped everyone out, lent a hand if you needed it. Like Oz said "there's different kinds of power" Oz had power but was kind to those who earned his kindness and generosity, Vic was one of those people. But I can't blame Vic, Oz did try to kill him in the pilot. Vic just like any of us would have thought Oz would clip you if you were to leave. So I get why both sides feel the way they do, truly a sad and powerful scene.
Every scene Oz was with Vic it felt like he was manipulating him in some way or another, but what he says at 2:54 feels like the most genuine Oswald will ever be
I love how the way Oz talks looks and feels so forced despite controlling his tone enough to routinely sound genuine. Makes complete sense if he has no loyalty, and ultimately no heart.
I think the road ahead will get dark for Victor. He will have to lose his humanity and do terrible things.
2:54 he wasn’t so much talking about Vic as he was talking about himself here. Great writing in this show
This scene hits different after the finale, because Oz was right. I know we as audience mourn over Vic. But he made the choice, he chose security and pleasuee over being good and having a nice girl in his life. Just like Jesse Pinkman. Christopher Moltisanti. Victor made a deal with the devil
"IT WAS SWEET!!"
brah i laughed so hard for the way he said that
Thank God Vic came to his senses and got on that bus with his gf. I'm so happy he's living the high life in California now
Should have left 😂
I don't know whether to laugh or cry
The older you and get and the more bills you pay you realize Oz is right 😮💨
The Gotham city coroner knows Vic was right
Little known fact: in one version of the comics an orphan called Jason Todd tries to steal a wheel off the batmobile when Batman catches him. That orphan eventually becomes Robin. Sound familiar? :)
"good news, you've already got it"...
Walt: "Jessie!"
I hate it when sons and fathers argue. C'mon Vic!
Damn that spech really hit me hard….
was there someone like victor in the comics
Not that I recall.
Jason Todd, in a way. He was trying to steal a wheel from Bruce Wayne car
That rooftop is somewhere in the Spiderverse. I wonder in which verse Vic becomes a Spiderman.
Whot ⁉️
“Sweet”
Victor should have just left. And after watching the finale it is clear in this scene Oz was just manipulating Victor and using him. Poor kid didn't deserve what happened to him.
💔
This is a tough fatherly love. This is what most fathers would say to their sons and daughters.
you haven't seen the last ep have you ?
@@Utilizador-gs3lxI have and he had a choice and we all know what he choose.
@@AndrewTheVikings Oz is such a cutie do
He must feel stupid right
Although kind of a clichéd scene (like a lot in this show so far), it features some great acting and good writing.
L Take
go watch agatha all along probably suits you better.
@@ghostapostle7225idk how you turned a constructive criticism from a fan of the show into just some mcu fanboy that hates dc...
It's not a cliche scene. This happens in real life.
@@mattycampy there is plenty of media with cliches that can be good, kinda like there are many generic songs that can be good
Real
whats the name of the song
Oz: Vic youll be the bag boy tonight vic. Were all relying on you bagboy.
Vic goes to start distributing the new drug.
Sophia: You think he bought it?
Oz: I sure hope so.
Dam vic never stood a chance.