The REAL MOMENT Man United Fell Off | The Eye Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2024
- Over 15 years on from Man United and Chelsea going toe to toe for Europe's major honours, the two clubs couldn't be further from that reality as both struggle to refind their identity. But post Sir Alex's retirement, what was the one moment Man United fans really realized.... it was over?
All this and more in the latest episode of The Eye Test w/ @brfootball
The two guys with the best ball knowledge making a podcast, this is perfect
Bro fr almost everyone on the platform has flaws but these two are on a pedastle on their own
Two rich kids who’ve never kicked a ball
Missing out on klopp when he took a sabbatical in 2014 and knowing that lvg was old and didn't get that success..yet the club couldn't even get a pre-agreement for klopp
Agreed
this is EXACTLY what i want and need in one podcast! Not too long but not to short, great ball knowledge not to many people and voices imo great project and podcast
Missing out on Klopp 2015 was a massive miss imo
Agreed
He rejected us cos he didnt like the structure. We stood no chance
Honestly the moment The Glazers and Woodward gave Mourinho (after finishing 2nd with 81 pts) a Dalot, Fred and Lee Grant in 2018 summer transfer window. That was insane to see, considering who we were linked with...
Top 10 best players in the world video idea currently
Great point about Ragnick.His role was layed out when he was hired but never mentioned again once he started coaching.I suppose he should have reminded the press that he was only interim (or was he starting to believe he should remain full time?)
this duo’s just one of the best man😤
Amazing video guys keep it up Insha'Allah u will reach even higher levels ❤
Mourinho not coming in 13/14, it's a whole different decade for Jose and United
Regarding the question about "who dictates the game, the player or the manager"
I believe that it has shifted from the players to the coach, and the reason is Pep Guardiola, who in my opinion is the most influential figure in football history and the first time in the sport's history that a manager dictates the game. However, that doesn't imply that his influence is solely credited to him, there are few key factors to note - accessibility in the modern era when compared to the past, industrialization of football and success of the most influential managers in terms of how the game is played.
1. Accessibility - While this could be a long discussion I think everybody has an idea, that as we go forward, in the information age, everything including football gets more accessible. More people in the world right now watch football than they ever did, and as we move forward it only keeps increasing. So there is more of everything - watching, discussing, analyzing; for all parties - fans, media, football fraternity.
2. Industrialization - A lot more is at stake in football than it ever was. In the hyper capitalistic age that we are in, football is a multi-billion dollar industry. We as football fans do know how much money is involved but we do not consciously experience it while watching the game. The development of sports science, advancement in medicine, attention to aspects we aren't even aware of, make football a very dynamic product. With billion dollar parties involved, the facilities that players are privileged to is also at an all time high. What I am trying to say is that everything is organized, it is a process, the way academies function, the way data about players is collected, etc. Everything is more mechanical than it ever was. Making football a very organized industry.
3. Success of the past managers - Now combining the above two aspects, about how football in the modern day looks like - it is an organized experience for all parties involved. Hence, the conditions we are in has massively helped Guardiola to be the most influential figure in football. This is to say that a Guardiola in the 1980s wouldn't be as influential as he is today. He needs to be in this era to be this influential.
Now to the conclusion. What sets Guardiola apart from other greats over the years apart from the things that I have mentioned above?
One important aspect is prolonged success. Innovative managers from the past did not have the consistency of trophies that Guardiola has. Again, to specify very clearly, success in this context implies trophies.
Helenio Herrera - Peak years(1958-1966), 2 Champions League titles and 5 league titles.
Johan Cruyff - Peak years(1986-1994), 1 Champions League title and 4 league titles
Arrigo Sacchi - Peak years(1987-1990), 2 Champions League titles and 1 league title
Rinus MIchels - Peak years(1965-1974) 1 Champions league title and 5 league titles. Also won the Euros with Netherlands in 1988.
Pep Guardiola - Peak years(2008-ongoing) at Barcelona, Bayern, Manchester City, 3 Champions League titles and 11 league titles.
So, apart from being innovative as the above managers, Pep has emulated the success of a Sir Alex Ferguson and is likely to surpass him as well. His constant success has been the reason why nearly every top manager right now wants to replicate his style. Because apart from being one of the most innovative tacticians of the game, he averages 2 trophies every year. However here lies a certain irony, that despite the success, trophies aren't the first thing that comes to mind when we talk Guardiola, his identity has always been of a tactician. However, the influence of his constantly evolving style and tactics is due to his success. Because there have been managers who were innovative, and there has been Sir Alex or Ancelotti who have been successful but not the most innovative. Guardiola is the only manager in history that has footprints in both territories. Of being arguably the most innovative manager of all time as well as being arguably the most successful manager of all time. And that is only possible in such an era.
This podcast is brilliant, keep up the good content Kams and Lyes! As a suggestion, can you also make this accessible on audio like Spotify/Apple music as I tend to listen to podcasts when I'm working or driving
Really have enjoyed broth of your thoughts on the game over different channels but this podcast is very special. Both of you have created a space to have deep discussions about the game which feels very fresh compared to a lot of the fluff out there
I think ole gunnar was a great manager this is coming from an arsenal fan i don't think he could ever compete with pep like arteta is, but he was somewhat maximising the squad he had. Ole probably needed leaders and an ambitious crop but he did want a bunch of talented players which are now setting the world on fire
In my personal opinion
Man united’s downfall was not all at once, but bit by bit… But for me personally, i remmember when rooney left and they gave rashford the number 10 shirt. Its then i knew if we are at a level that rashy is z face of the club we were finished. And i love rashy but i watched united for around 30 years and he would be an impact player in our glory days!
Not a united fan but I personally always thought if Rashford is your "best player"/ "face of the team" you'd never win consistently at the highest level. Nothing against rashford but if the face of the team is inconsistent then your screwed against a guardiola
Chelsea aren't confused. Young players improve.
ragnick wanted alverez , diaz , enzo and nkunku
What do you think about rashford this season people are talking about sacking the manager but it will only get worse what do you think
Great Podcast.
Have two teams ever lost in the same game....
Bro has ben stumbling for 10+ years
Yep!
What do you think about rashford this season I think if you sack the manager it gets worse what do you think kams Lyes
We need to get rid of the shit players before the manager, and if the manager doesn’t perform with his players than we can replace him
Like who?
Sell Rashford, Bruno, and Maguire at least. Bring Sancho back, get a new cam more suited for possession/technical play, and Todibo. That’s a start
@chadrampersad wow and bring who if you replace those players
United fell off when they sold Ronaldo and lost Tevez in 2009 and did not replace them.
Best teams ever like real Madrid 16/17 barcelona 10/11 Milan 05 in your life time tho
First. Love your channel 👍
18 months before Fergie retired... its not that deep... the United team fergie left was the worst squad and worst XI they had in decades... add that to the deals signed before he left, that's why the debt has increased, and thr standards have dropped... since then its just been a game of hot potatoes passing blame onto others... go and remind yourself of the Chevrelot and Adidas deal Fergie signed the year before he left... ask yourself what Keane means when he laughs about the idea Fergie ever put the club first... the fact remains Mourinho is the best coach you've had since Fergie signed Djemba Djemba... facts are facts
Someone fell off
first
Our loss against Sevilla in the champions league under Jose🥲
Sevilla were a much better team