1955 Chevy - Welding Sheet Metal
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- Welding on my 1955 Chevy 2 door conversion. I'm installing the lower panels and trying some new to me "metal to metal" body filler. Join me as I progress through my 1955 Chevy project and continue with building the 1955 Chevy that I've dreamed of for years.
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You’re getting closer every video. Good Job.
Thanks very much.
When my Dad did his '56 Bel Air convertible, '55 and '56 T- birds, he used a home-made rotisserie and swore by it. Keep in mind he was much older then you at the time, and for ease of welding, accessibility, and preservation of his body, it was the way to go. You probably don't need it for what you are doing, but they do make underbody repairs a lot easier...
I'm still on the fence, I'll have a closer look on the weekend and figure out what I'm doing. Thanks for following along.
Very nice work Ed! Stay tenacious.
Thanks! Will do!
Outstanding job!
Thank you very much!
Buddy , no rotisserie. Use that car hoist get under a nd weld what ya need , raise it and put it on highr stands so you can spit and weld it all lol your doin awesome . I don’t have a bunch of out sid3 work just rockers and floors due. To expense I’m gonna try and just do patch floor pales and rockers but weel see could be complete floor , will keep you posted it’s all gonna star5 this week and weekend . Might not even come in for Super Bowl LOL . Lovin in yer channel
I don't have a whole bunch of welding under left to do. I have the one piece floor already, it's just mostly cleaning, scraping and painting. It's coming along. I'm glad you're enjoying the process.
Nice work!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey Ed man! the 55 has come a long ways looking really good now.
Belair trim would look nice but you are right they want a lot of money for it. Took me awhile to find enough good pieces that I could repair.
If you decide your going with the trim around the side windows I do have the right and left pieces for the C piller. Let me know.
There is a guy on ebay that sells all the rest of the pieces you would need but some of them he thinks they are gold lol.
Keep up the great work!
Your getting it take care 👍🏻
Thanks very much. I'm pretty sure that I won't go with the upper window trim. I really think I want the one that goes under the window and on the door. The spear I guess will depend on what's available. I wouldn't mind buying new, but I don't want to buy shiny new and then sand it to look old. How's the snow there?
@@SlowCarFix well we still have around a foot out in the yard. But it's in the 40s today and melting Yes!!
Hopefully it doesn't snow any more
But it's only February. Come on spring time 😁
Have a good one Ed 👍
Fantastic progress Ed! Coming together nice!
Thanks 👍
Ed, You put out about (two) golf ball size amount out, should have used 24 drops. You will really enjoy working on the car bolted to a rotisserie, it's so nice. My 55 belair is on one now. I bought used one for $700 bucks, I love it, You will too!! Thanks for sharing..
Thanks, I'm still on the fence. I'll give it more thought.
Good job so far that is really a A poxy for your welded areas
Thanks
You can grind down the welds between series and hammer dolly them to let the stress off the welds so it doesn't warp.
that's a good thought but I'm not sure I agree with it. Grinding puts a lot of heat in the panel. I do hammer and dolly as I grind as well because I can see it moving around.
Nice repair on the panel. I like your approach to safety I feel that it's always important. As far as trim I have seen lots of cars with different levels of trim. The Bel Air was always a classic look but even the 150 model looks good. Your car your decision and I believe what ever you choose will be right for your car. I would not do the rotisserie just to much work. You can always clean up the underside as you move forward. Really looking forward to the next step on your 55.
Thanks very much. I'm leaning towards just getting the body off the frame and supporting the body with my scissor lift under the new floor. Then I would have access to the parts in the trunk and wheel wells that I want to work on. We'll see how it goes. I think the trim will depend on what's available. I don't really want to buy new and make it look old, that would be a shame. Thanks for sticking with me.
Nice tips on welding . I am a retired boilermaker tube welder . I cringe at utubers on safety. Cutting with a cutting disc without a guard is scary. I have seen what happens if you flex that disc .they explode . Welding without a hood . Yes I have done it . I have burned my eyes many many times. I like respirators the correct ones . Painting one for painting and pink for welding and grinding . I understand cosmetic welding . Spraying water on hot welds to prevent warping. Then in the next sentence complain about hard metal . Another using wire wheels stainless with a grinder . Those will take your eye out . Wear a faceshield and Eyewear. Your over the top perfection . Like you Malibu and corvairs .
Some of the best welders I've seen are Boiler makers. I'm a Millwright and Electrician. I learned to weld to stay employed in construction. I try to make a habit of using my helmet as intended. I also always have a guard on my grinder, it's a pain, but I've never had an incident. I've seen someone take a zip disc in the belly and it was almost fatal. Insane. I was too hard on myself in construction and I try to do the best I can now so I can enjoy this work for many years yet. I've got a few big projects I want to do yet. Thanks for watching and following along.
Ed use a paint stick to mix the filler , mix it Thorley and use your spreader to clean the paint stick. when you put the filler on all ways put it on as smooth as you can and don't put it where you don't need it at. i used this filler before but, i like short strand fiberglass reinforced filler better i find is much EZR to work with. it uses the same type of hardner as body filler. i have been a bodyman and painter for 48 years so i like what works best for me to get stuff done EZR . your quarters are looking great with the one piece lower quarters welded on. i keep the cars i build for at least 10 years so i do stuff so i don't have to redo it. when the weather warms up i am going to build my 55 ragtop body. it is getting a patina paint job with used trim. i want it to look unrestored , it is way more fun that way. keep up the good work and cool videos. ps i found most of the parts for my 55 on ebay.
Thanks for the tips. I need them. I don't want this to break out, so I'll do my best to seal things up. I have never painted a full car, only parts, so this one will be a first for me. Then I'll sand it all and make it look worn. Looking forward to seeing more pictures of your '55 build.
@@SlowCarFix thanks Ed i started working in a bodyshop when i was 18 . the guy taught me very well , i am so grateful that i worked for him for years. i learned to weld with torches , and he showed me how do bodywork and paint whole cars and spot repairs . we used lacquer back in the 70's. i dont know how many cars i painted since back then. at 66 i cant stop building cool old cars and trucks. im tired of buffing paint so now im more into the weathered patina paint look and old cars that i can drive everyday. i just bought a cool old lenco panel spot welder to put the 55 together with. i figure i will use it on most of of my other builds too. i am going to try to do some videos when i start back on the 55 again . stay warm up there.
Knocking down the highs with a cheese grater file cuts down your sanding time in about half. It also sands easier once you get through the top skin of the puddy.
thanks!
Good Luck I HATE body work. Ive worked many many times without a rotisserie but it ""depends"" on how much work you need to do underneath. You are already wanting to separate the body from the frame so if you put the body on a rotisserie you will find it a lot easier to work on. Specially when you get to my age lol
I'm not looking forward to the body work. I don't have a huge pile underneathe because I have a new one piece floor and the back half of the trunk is all new. That's why I'm on the fence. Looks like a lot of time.
Thanks for the vidio
Thanks for watching!
you want the 210 trim package especially under the windows the belair chrome will cover more but is gaudy
I agree 100%. I've got most of it now. I still want the Belair emblems which is a bit confusing, but we'll see.
The key to using the stranded filler is to knock it down with a cheese grater before it totally sets up. Once it completely hardens it's a bear to sand
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I didn't use the stranded stuff. I like this stuff, it's actually metal and even a week later it sands well. Hopefully I can stay away from the kity hair stuff.
ED , I put my 53 on a light weight rotisserie to get at the frame. That said the only way it helped was to blast the underside because of the evil undercoating on these cars to much flame and scrape and numerous hours just to do the pass, floor underneath. 200 bucks plus the rotisserie. Saved plenty of time and thats money. Don't think for a moment that the cars are light all. and your right about proper attitude and patience...
I have to think about it a bit more. With the new one piece floor, and the new section of trunk floor, there isn't a lot left to scrape. That's exactly my reason to want to gain access though. The wheel wells turned out great. The chassis being off the car is a must I think to be able to properly go through the chassis and suspension and paint the whole frame. I'll figure it out, I usually seem to. Thanks for watching.
Hi Ed. Car is looking good so far. As far as using a rotisserie, if possible, I would try to get a really good look at the bottom side of the car before you decide against using a rotisserie. Better off to be sure that there are no issues first. With the car being a sedan, how much extra bracing would you have to do, to use a rotisserie, considering the new metal and all of the welding that you've already done?
I'm definitely pulling the frame off, but I'm leaning towards picking up the new one piece floor with my scissor lift and having just the body on the lift. This would give me access to the part above the rear axle and the outer wheel wells that I need to work on. I'm on the fence, but need to decide soon.
She's coming along great! Are you planning on making functional side windows in the rear? Most conversion guys usually put fixed windows in them.i would like to see someone make them functional.
Dan with dd speed shop did them functional on his 55 because he had a donor car. I don't intend to because this car will have A/C and likely the only one in the back is going to be our dog.
Two door Post cars with a good floor, side quarter panels like you have now!! you don't need any support braces with a rotisserie. Post cars are much more ridged.. If you had a 2 dr hard top or a convertible, and were cutting out the floors and rear quarters and such, Then YES braces everywhere.. Again thanks for sharing..
Well, this was a 4 door, so there is that. I've replaced the floor with a new one piece floor, which definitely gave the car from structure. I'm not sure yet if I want to bother with a rotisserie. The body has to come off the frame, but really I only need access to the piece of the trunk above the axle. Everything else is new metal. I'll give it more thought. Thanks for watching.
Hey Ed, love your content! I'm a beginner at this, currently working on 4 link into my '56 Chev pickup. I had asked about your Aldan shocks before, thanks. I am curious now to your scissor jack. Do you like it? I'm thinking about getting one as well. I don't really have space for a t post lift as I'm in a house on the golf course! The neighbours don't even like my noise lol! Thanks
My scissor is great. It's an old Snap On unit that I got as part of a deal when I bought a '66 Corvair one time. I have 3 x 4 posts, and they are my preference because you can use them for storage, and have a sliding jack to lift the car off the hoist to do mechanical work. However, they have a pretty big foot print. They can also be moved around on casters. I don't like 2 post lifts for a home shop. It ties up a lot of space, and with it being anchored to the floor, there's 2 big posts in your way all the time when not using them. The scissor is great for things like this '55, or pulling engines out of Corvairs/ VW's as they come out the bottom. It's not great if you need to access anything down the center of the car. Also, you aren't getting full height, so it's a bit tough that way and has it's limitations. For body work, it's fantastic. For exhaust or driveshafts etc, it's useless. It is not easy to move around, but it can be moved but it requires some effort. I like having it for sure, and it gets used every day. The coes and Llama next door don't seem to mind my noise. Thanks for watching.
@@SlowCarFix Thanks Ed, it sounds like I would like a scissor, especially for the body work I have to do. I'd love to have a 4 post, but don't have the room. I tried to talk the wife into moving to an area where I can have a shop, but she vetoes me, she wants to stay a townie! SnapOn is great stuff, albeit expensive, I was looking at Princess Auto out here. I know its China manufactured, but it gets good reviews. Be great when you change over one of your Corvairs to electric!
@@sarblade I don't think there's any issues with the PA ones. I know a few people that have them. I fluked into mine. I don't think I'll be making one of my Corvairs electric. I recently gutted one for a friend/customer of mine and he has another shop converting it to electric. I drive a Tesla to work every day. It's great for what it does, but when I want to drive an old car, I like to hear and feel it. Just a preference.
You should sand the metal with a 40 grit filler needs a rough surface to adhere to. Most people will prime the surface first to seal it then apply the filler. You'll probably want to coat the entire panel first then see how it goes from there.
The metal was all done with 36 grit around the welds. The can of stuff said 40-80 grit I believe. It didn't fall off yet, I guess we'll see. Thanks.
looks like you would spread the filler somewhat like drywall compound with thin coats to the thickness you want. Looks good though for your first time. A for effort.
I will have lots of practice ahead of me.
You should get in touch with DD from Canada he has some parts you might want 😊
I talk to him every now and then. He is about 30 hours away from me, so it's a bit tough for shipping. He likely would have used all his 2 door trim on his stuff. Thanks for the thought though.
My 57 4 door belair which I'm converting to 2 door had a ton of trim, all of it isn't going back on.
I like some trim, but I don't need ALL of it.
Ed,I know a guy who was selling the complete Belair stainless trim for all the side windows only at $850.Its in one of my carshow videos from last Summer 9/11/22 Car show Bald Hill video at 5:20 if you want to take a look. Il double check I think I have his phone number if your interested.I thought was a great price for someone having none of it.. .... Glenn
That could work. Let me know. slowcarfix@outlook.com
@@SlowCarFix I went back and looked at my video its all the Belair window glass side trim complete set only and he was asking $850. I have to work on finding the phone number may see him in the Spring at the first carshow either way in early April....
Proxy the hole car
epoxy you mean? I don't intend to do that. I'll be using direct to metal products first then going from there. thanks.
You need to really mix the filler so that the harder gets into every bit of the mix...and mix it for at least one minute constantly no stopping
Otherwise some filler will NEVER GET HARD
So I've learned!
Thanks, I'll do that next time!
Did ya find a motor and Trans , or a doner , or with all that work yer gonna rotisserie it .. HAVE YA DONE THE ROCKERS AND FULL FLOOR YET . I HEAR YA ON TRIM . My 56 is a the bare bones 150 , minimal chrome not even belt line , side spears that stop just past the door on 2 Door wago cheack with DD SPEED SHO0 IN MANATOBA HE IS A TRI5 guy he mite have some trim in his basement
Rockers are new, and a new one piece full floor already installed. I know Dan with DD Speedshop, he uses 4 door trim on his 2 doors. He's about 30 hours away from me, so shipping would be killer. I'll find something local, I have time. I have an engine and trans lined up, I believe. Thanks for following along.
Talk to DD speed shop
I talk to him semi regularly. He's a good dude. Different approach then me but he totally convinced me to start this channel.
Use it like body filler
Mix less then half up no more
210 with Bel Air emblems will look good...210 includes narrow trim at bottom of side windows and, as you said, the narrower spear.
That's the way I'm leaning. I just have to see what's out there.
I think you should go the extra mile and put the trim on it's supposed to have, even if a little more work. You've put so much into it and it's really coming along nice. Not the time to give up.
@66skate well, define supposed to. It's a 4 door conversion, so the 4 door trim would be what it is "supposed to have". The car will be far from stock and will have a worn in look, so really there's no rules. I'm just trying to decide what looks best. I'm assuming I can count your vote for full Bel air trim? Thanks for watching.
@@SlowCarFix If it was a Bel Air, then I vote for that. I realize it's your car and your vision of what you want to end up with. Just throwing my spare change into the pot.
I appreciate the input. Thanks!
CHECK. OUT. RUST BUCKET. RESO. HIS. ROTTISERY. DOESNT LOOK. EXSPENSIVE. IT MUST BE. RUGGED. IT HAS A. 68. CHARGER ON. CHECK IT. OUT. HE SAYS. HE. TURNS. THE CAR. BY HIM. SELF.
Thanks, I think I'm just going to leave it on my scissor lift.