what sienna mae did to me

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  • @Ms-ue6kp
    @Ms-ue6kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91343

    Assault has no gender. We are here for you. Beyond proud of you for speaking out.

    • @ebogar42
      @ebogar42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Gender is a social construct so I guess not.

    • @Cloudybxnnie
      @Cloudybxnnie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2043

      @@ebogar42 not the time

    • @Sza4L
      @Sza4L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1309

      @@ebogar42 get out of here

    • @Dark-dc4qi
      @Dark-dc4qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +590

      I'd hope it will be like this, in my country a guy accused a girl of assault, with evidence, and he got arrested. It sucks that sometimes with assault type of things men are seen as the agressor

    • @introvertedintrovert
      @introvertedintrovert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +510

      @@ebogar42 read the room

  • @ginimew
    @ginimew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11746

    No idea why we're discussing "cancelling" her when what she really needs is jail time.

    • @raymondtravels9949
      @raymondtravels9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    • @madisontaylor8117
      @madisontaylor8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +302

      honestly glad i’m not the only person thinking that!

    • @leylaniwharton5551
      @leylaniwharton5551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Exactly what she did was horrible she does deserve it it’s horrible

    • @maddawg02
      @maddawg02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      I wanna see her COVERED in a nice orange jumpsuit 😌

    • @BrookeBeverlyMUA
      @BrookeBeverlyMUA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      I think because the sad reality is most rapists and abusers never face any jail time. (James Charles, Tony Lopez, Curtis Lapore etc. The list is endless. And that’s just in the online world of influencers.) While it does come across distasteful to simply say “cancel her” I don’t think people are trying to play this off lightly. But cutting her off from social media, her fan base and ways to use her image and platform to make money it will force her to eventually go away. If we as viewers keep her actions known and hold her accountable brands and sponsorships will walk away and refuse to work with her. The trick is to not allow her back like so many other ”cancelled” creators somehow manage to weasel in. They take a break from the internet until the heat dies down then somehow return and everyone just forgets. 😕
      In hindsight even if this case ever makes it to court Sienna’s lawyers will fight for reduced sentences or even take a plea deal to avoid her seeing any jail time. That’s if she’s found guilty to begin with. The justice system is so messed up. It really is our only way to help Jack from the sidelines by pushing Sienna off the internet while Jack and his team decide their next course of action.

  • @outcamethesun
    @outcamethesun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14652

    she doesn’t need to be canceled she needs to go to jail

    • @evelynefdl
      @evelynefdl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      THANKS

    • @gabriellaavilabo8041
      @gabriellaavilabo8041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Yes

    • @youngty_tv9972
      @youngty_tv9972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You need to take this ratio

    • @skyguysXD
      @skyguysXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +404

      @@youngty_tv9972 you are so fatherless read the room

    • @alyssa3828
      @alyssa3828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      @@youngty_tv9972 L

  • @ChaChaman2
    @ChaChaman2 ปีที่แล้ว +806

    I’m male, I’ve been sexually assaulted and harassed by woman before. Almost no one would believe me & also be like “what are you gay?” But ppl don’t seem to realize that you can just not want sex or physical intimacy, and still be nice

    • @jennyortega621
      @jennyortega621 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I’m really sorry

    • @ConstantDerivative
      @ConstantDerivative ปีที่แล้ว +22

      oh god, i'm so sorry that happened to you

    • @annelisemartin
      @annelisemartin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      literally it is equally violating for anyone to have to experience.

    • @KombuchaDrinker
      @KombuchaDrinker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@annelisemartin absolutely, the way this was even a question is beyond me. I once saw a reddit post about a guy who got molested by his female teacher at 13, and he was talking as if it was normal. It's so disgusting and vile to even accept something like this.

    • @priyankamohan3910
      @priyankamohan3910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm so sorry

  • @ladychelseatheundead
    @ladychelseatheundead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8784

    The fact that this man is crying about assault, and yet still giving her credit for making him a stronger person who can stand up for himself, is so sad and speaks volumes about what a good human he is.

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @minsun4046
      @minsun4046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      I agree! Though I think it was more learning through the experience and growing and finding out how to find a voice because of what he went through not because of the person who hurt him, he grew on his own! /pos

    • @shod22229
      @shod22229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @fabrice8940
      @fabrice8940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      BELIEVE ALL MEN

    • @teresac3187
      @teresac3187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@fabrice8940 wtf is wrong with you???

  • @Rumeiyuh
    @Rumeiyuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5345

    She doesn’t need to be cancelled, she needs to be in jail because that’s a literal crime what she did

    • @kaleydixon3903
      @kaleydixon3903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Yeah so many other tiktokers need to🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @mtcdylan
      @mtcdylan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Committed multiple crimes, breaking and entering more than once, sexual assault many times. She needs to be in jail for along time.

    • @yikesgina
      @yikesgina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It's considered sexual assault.

    • @sumeyyekyz5339
      @sumeyyekyz5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessss

    • @iiam.didiii3132
      @iiam.didiii3132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@yikesgina which is a crime..

  • @ethanfpl9678
    @ethanfpl9678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12458

    No one should ever be scared to fall asleep. What sienna did was truly disgusting. We love you jack.

    • @raymondtravels9949
      @raymondtravels9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @Teddy_G10d
      @Teddy_G10d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@raymondtravels9949 really?? Read the room

    • @leviackermann543
      @leviackermann543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @angelic dove Jack literally has proof of Sienna raping him and you are saying he is suspicious???

    • @mzzsoldier25yearsago65
      @mzzsoldier25yearsago65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @angelic dove it’s funny when a girl gets caught y’all make plenty excuses 🤣

    • @michaelmyers327
      @michaelmyers327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @angelic dove he doesn’t seem suspicious, what 💀 You Are only trying to find a way to defend her bruh

  • @Shooketh__
    @Shooketh__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7503

    That woman is absolutely disgusting. I'm so sorry for what happened to you. You're very strong for opening up. Absolutely none of this is your fault, I promise. More power to you.

    • @ZoungWaing
      @ZoungWaing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      True

    • @GitoOoOoOo
      @GitoOoOoOo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sienna straight up raped him and she still has a platform 💀💀💀

    • @cyerk
      @cyerk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 ??

    • @enagrubesic6080
      @enagrubesic6080 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659blaire white is transphobic so don’t use her as an example

    • @sagesage2576
      @sagesage2576 ปีที่แล้ว

      The woman deserves to go through All stages of suffering

  • @robertthe19th
    @robertthe19th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5462

    The fact that in sienna's apology she 1. Did not adress the problem. 2. Didn't apologize. 3. Danced to a song with the lyrics, "I did nothing wrong."

    • @isabellatorresin
      @isabellatorresin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is there a link of it?

    • @raviolius5969
      @raviolius5969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@isabellatorresin i think she deleted the video bc of the backlash but there are many comentary vids about it and you can watch it there

    • @dominicadominique8757
      @dominicadominique8757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, if she did nothing wrong where is a problem? This boy is a lier and I hope everybody will know it soon.

    • @raviolius5969
      @raviolius5969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@dominicadominique8757 yeah no

    • @terribrannon9999
      @terribrannon9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@dominicadominique8757 he has video proof and witnesses, how is he lying. Sienna needs professional help

  • @bijousayss
    @bijousayss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4986

    Never dismiss male victims . She needs to take accountability. I’m so sorry you went through this Jack!

    • @jackolanternwillsufferands1277
      @jackolanternwillsufferands1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Exactly. People are fucking sexist when it comes to men. “Oh no deal with it. She is just having fun with you.” The most disgusting thing I have ever heard about men: “Men can’t get raped.” Literally makes my blood boil.

    • @imsotox
      @imsotox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@jackolanternwillsufferands1277 It’s actually a lot of men who make the statement “men can’t get raped.” And because of it, men feel so embarrassed to come out when it comes to situations like this.

    • @stella9414
      @stella9414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@jackolanternwillsufferands1277 sad thing is its a lot of men who are saying this to other men.

    • @Eminemz13
      @Eminemz13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      accountability? bro she needs to be in prison 😭

    • @imsotox
      @imsotox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Eminemz13 I wish the police could use videos like this to arrest people imo

  • @nya2383
    @nya2383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5599

    i am so sorry. she needs to be put in jail. this isn’t “tiktok tea” this is a literal crime. i am so proud of you for speaking up jack

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    • @nooneloloof
      @nooneloloof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Frrrr

    • @stephkahale9177
      @stephkahale9177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ikr she should be in jail now she had 14 m

    • @user-fc6wc3mf6o
      @user-fc6wc3mf6o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes . Sounds like she would find another person to do too next . So disturbing

    • @nooneloloof
      @nooneloloof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-fc6wc3mf6o Fr. Poor guy :(

  • @moinschatz777
    @moinschatz777 ปีที่แล้ว +1023

    A girl tried to rape my younger brother when he was 17 years old after she fed him tons of alcohol and he wanted to lay down to sleep. When he woke up she was taking off his jeans and tried to force herself on him. Afterward, he tried to confess this to his friends which kept making fun of him. He felt alone, shameful, and not validated in his feelings. Since then he never wanted to be alone with a woman again, he don't want a woman to even hug him of in any way touch him besides a friendly handshake. He's traumatized and is currently in therapy due to this. Good that you speak out! Stay strong and god bless you!

    • @jdcarcosa_9393
      @jdcarcosa_9393 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      oh my god that's horrible, I hope he's somehow doing better now😔

    • @nayeonvfx7413
      @nayeonvfx7413 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      That’s so terrible and sad that people think men that are SA survivors are weaklings…

    • @applesaretasty2.099
      @applesaretasty2.099 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      That is abhorrent, I am sorry that he went through that
      No one should feel unwanted or invalid ever

    • @smileyface8057
      @smileyface8057 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Oh dude I hope your younger brother is in a better place, I hope you continue to support him through that!!

    • @FrancistheBrave
      @FrancistheBrave ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Man im sorry to read that man i hope your brother doing okay 😢

  • @xxstephsupernaturalxx
    @xxstephsupernaturalxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5068

    sexual assault is sexual assault. the people who are siding with sienna saying that jack's ""lying"" because he's a guy who was violated by a girl are more than stupid. just because men aren't the majority of SA victims doesn't mean they're immune to experiencing it

    • @airgamesyt9725
      @airgamesyt9725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      they might be majority tbh since this stereotype makes them afraid to speak out which is honestly really sad

    • @thegreatdevourer1020
      @thegreatdevourer1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea but men don’t really matter in comparison, this guy is only an exception because he’s desirable to some people you know. Cases like these are rarities where the only reason people like jack are getting any form of support is because he’s desirable.

    • @justsomegirllivinginpain2829
      @justsomegirllivinginpain2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      who cares whether females or males are assaulted more? this isn't a competition by any means y'all. the fact here is that sexual assault is happening, and it shouldn't. this is humans doing these things to other human beings. also, jack isn't able to speak out only because he's "desirable" it's because this whole situation was put out on the internet and social media from the beginning. and jack deserves to speak out his truth after all this.

    • @mementomori9844
      @mementomori9844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      how do i retweet a youtube comment

    • @aza5685
      @aza5685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Anoneemus Noename if it wasn’t previously agreed upon it’s still sexual assault. if he didn’t consent the night prior it sexual assault. he may not have been comfortable with getting woken up by that. she should’ve asked. you are different from him. you do not get to play down HIS experience because YOU liked it. just because you and your partners liked it doesn’t mean everyone else will. and just because it’s his girlfriend doesn’t change ANYTHING. consent doesn’t just go away when your in a relationship. doing that could also lead to a panic attack if they’ve had past traumatic experiences…

  • @evyjay8139
    @evyjay8139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4738

    It doesn’t matter that Jack is a man, he was SA’ed & he deserves to be listened to, understood & believed! I believe you Jack.. we believe you

    • @MElixirDNB
      @MElixirDNB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it does actually, hes behaving like a pathetic coward

    • @yonisapir6270
      @yonisapir6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's not a man, he's a kid.

    • @bugmane6958
      @bugmane6958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@MElixirDNB I mean I wouldn’t say that

    • @Tyrosine0910
      @Tyrosine0910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      @@MElixirDNB No, he's opening up to millions of people about something that happened to him, despite knowing there will be many thousands of lowlifes like you who will lambast him. I'm betting you'd be far too cowardly to do the same in such a position.

    • @evyjay8139
      @evyjay8139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@MElixirDNB mmmm.. no, but go ahead & project your fragility all over

  • @arianne2164
    @arianne2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2692

    what sienna did isn’t drama, it’s a crime . we’re all here for you jack! stay strong 💕

    • @charlottevanparys1998
      @charlottevanparys1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @mayakokash4494
      @mayakokash4494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Literally

    • @unknownoblivion2417
      @unknownoblivion2417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fr, it’s also a big sin

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn Sienna really tried to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @mr23457
    @mr23457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3935

    The fact that people actually support her now sickens me

    • @ranip7644
      @ranip7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      People forget stuff like this. Like honestly nobody stays canceled.
      Look at Logan Paul. He was able to bounce back within a year as well.

    • @starpink1
      @starpink1 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      She deletes comments

    • @Supervegetafan
      @Supervegetafan ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@ranip7644 no one forgot this, last night I saw a comment on one of her TikTok’s saying “I don’t care what you did, your beautiful” they didn’t “forget”, they just don’t care cuz she’s a woman

    • @7avdes
      @7avdes ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Supervegetafan that's sad bro..

    • @dronecone6987
      @dronecone6987 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      what happens when you're female.

  • @lanaelleperez7513
    @lanaelleperez7513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2957

    “I feel like no one believes a man”… I have so much respect for him speaking out on what took place, he deserves better.

    • @amandamosteller1371
      @amandamosteller1371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Both men and women are affected by the patriarchy. I hate that we live in a society that doesn't believe men and ignores women. His story is horrific but sadly other men have experienced the same. Hopefully this encourages other men to come forward, if they're comfortable.
      Imagine if he had called the police after she had assaulted him. The cops would laugh and she could lie and say he had been violent with her.

    • @tootie6944
      @tootie6944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      don’t most of y’all believe him? even then that’s not why no one believed him, it’s because there was barely proof. stfu lmao. y’all acting like she raped him or sum

    • @izabela8045
      @izabela8045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fr and the way that he didn’t even wanna push her or try to hurt her after doing that just shows he’s a good person

    • @urlov1rr605
      @urlov1rr605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tootie6944 basically did though weirdo sexually assaulted him multiple times

    • @winkwonk3864
      @winkwonk3864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tootie6944 she did. She did it to other men too. And back when this video didn’t exist and he wasn’t answering as much probably because he felt awful. The amount of people who believed sienna was ridiculous, whilst preaching about ‘believing the victim’ if you don’t know shit, don’t talk about it

  • @j_smrtt48
    @j_smrtt48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2052

    she wasn’t sorry. she was sorry she got caught. we are so proud of you for coming out
    about this.

    • @CristianRodriguez-jw6ch
      @CristianRodriguez-jw6ch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      nah she wasn’t even sorry for that, all she did was keep denying 😭😭

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      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow Sienna reallyy tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @mylifeaseva
    @mylifeaseva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54035

    As a SA survivor myself this is so heartbreaking because it’s so -honest- to how this trauma can hurt someone. I’m so proud of you for speaking up, it’s so hard, but you’re making it a little easier for someone else to be brave to share their story ❤️

    • @cyclonedes4417
      @cyclonedes4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +821

      Thanks for this comment Eva🤍

    • @shartstack
      @shartstack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +725

      i'm so glad there are people with as good of a soul as you on this platform.

    • @enaj009
      @enaj009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +263

      I'm very sorry

    • @sombersdigestiveissues6105
      @sombersdigestiveissues6105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      ily eva

    • @carm9078
      @carm9078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      So sorry this happened you are amazing and so strong

  • @Internethorror660
    @Internethorror660 ปีที่แล้ว +1407

    The fact that she still has a platform and isn’t in prison is disgusting, TikTok really is the biggest pool of garbage ever created

    • @waldosplace3119
      @waldosplace3119 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Facts did you know toosi put her in his music video like smh

    • @aalaciaaker7120
      @aalaciaaker7120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Litteraly.

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Fr. This wasn't even a controversy over content or something, this is literally a criminal offense. She needs to be tried and thrown into prison

    • @ahintofhish07
      @ahintofhish07 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fr though the last time something like this happened but the other way around in gender there was literally an entire country movement called #metoo

    • @cugglymonster
      @cugglymonster ปีที่แล้ว

      Look everyone, it’s the male Amber Heard! Always lying about SA! 🤮🤢💩🤡Jack was bitter that Sienna messed with his business; she left his toxic ass & that hurt his views when they stopped making videos together. Jack also quickly and quietly settled the matter when Sienna got lawyers involved! 🤣 he had no case and he knew it. He never filed any SA charges. Sienna’s legal team destroyed his credibility! That 2.5 sec video was proven HEAVILY altered. That’s why Jack settled this quietly w/Sienna’s lawyers. Jack is gay & Sienna was his cover. She ghosted him after realizing he was using her & he felt like he MADE her a ⭐️ so he wanted revenge. He’s a liar! 😂 Jack’s lying gaslighting narcissist manipulative ass is the one that should be in jail. What a sick person to lie about SA! 🤮

  • @kylieepps6898
    @kylieepps6898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4816

    The fact that no one believed him awful. He didn’t deserve that.

    • @beyo6870
      @beyo6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      exactly i believed him immediately

    • @yikesgina
      @yikesgina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I definitely believed him. I think the video was out by that time. I feel awful for him though.

    • @dina2240
      @dina2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      i always believe the victim.

    • @desj0nes
      @desj0nes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rightttt

    • @56centvs
      @56centvs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@yikesgina yeah I feel like it’s not often that a man comes out and says that a girl did these things to them and also the fact that she was being aggressive and wasn’t denying that she did it and also tried to switch the blame onto him that’s what a lot of females do. In any situation they always try and take the blame off of them. He deserves justice and she deserves to be in jail as if she was a male.

  • @vitaniwasnthere
    @vitaniwasnthere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7141

    Jack partly blaming himself is heartbreaking. No one who went through this, should feel that way. I'm so glad that you are getting help, and support. We are here for you.

    • @OFFICIALXZV
      @OFFICIALXZV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Honestly the fact that he blames himself Means they gaslit him… it’s not his fault

    • @Love-xe8lt
      @Love-xe8lt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wake up Read the Bible i care about you❤️ Jesus loves you repent before it’s too late -john 3:16 Matthew 24:12

    • @jacobdecker2564
      @jacobdecker2564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That’s the worst part of being abused or assaulted. When I dealt with abuse and assault, I blamed myself a lot for it and I was too afraid to tell anyone for awhile since I didn’t want the persons family to find out what he did to me. I also didn’t want sympathy from people or people to talk about it. It’s the worst part about being assaulted as you feel like you are at blame for what happened or that you shouldn’t report since you don’t want the abuser to get in trouble. I pray for this man and hope he’s able to heal from this

    • @marinamansfield5872
      @marinamansfield5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Love-xe8lt im never joining your religion because of you

    • @kiiimmmx
      @kiiimmmx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@marinamansfield5872 no one needs to know that

  • @ravon
    @ravon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19774

    The truth always prevails. We hear you Jack 🧡

    • @MeisAaron
      @MeisAaron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hi revon

    • @MeisAaron
      @MeisAaron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Oh shit it’s ravon

    • @mayaisback
      @mayaisback 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Ravon!

    • @MarsASM-R
      @MarsASM-R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      ❤❤❤ seeing Ravon in the comment section is a whole another level of blessing.

    • @Brianna2008m
      @Brianna2008m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PERIOD😍

  • @HxrtYT21
    @HxrtYT21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    here in 2024 but looking back at this is lowk crazy

    • @ilovemydogalways
      @ilovemydogalways 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      real. and she STILL has so many followers, and people just forgot about it. it's actually crazy how nothing terrible happened to her.

    • @gyeszt
      @gyeszt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@ilovemydogalways EXACTLY AND EVERYBODY BELIEVES HER ARE PEOPLE REALLY THAT DUMB😭

    • @etsunara.
      @etsunara. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ilovemydogalwaysgod, that infuriates me.

    • @urmom-hs4uy
      @urmom-hs4uy หลายเดือนก่อน

      same

    • @GETBACKHEREISLA
      @GETBACKHEREISLA หลายเดือนก่อน

      i’m still tearing up at everything

  • @Janellesantos4470
    @Janellesantos4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2939

    The fact that people still have the nerve to support her after what she did to this innocent man is so fucking sad.

    • @cassidytruman3175
      @cassidytruman3175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I blocked her and reported her on all my TikTok accounts and all my socials

    • @raquelj.330
      @raquelj.330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cassidytruman3175 🥳🥳🥳

    • @clarabarnes676
      @clarabarnes676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true

    • @creativechild9175
      @creativechild9175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      it’s very sad :(, but not surprising, I watched the night stalker series and saw that people disgustingly supported Richard Ramirez even after he was convicted as a serial k*ller and r*pest. People are just sick

    • @PULULOLE
      @PULULOLE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She litterly got hated already and a few days later people act like nothing happened then she disrespected culture’s on tiktok and then she got hated and later people still act liked nothing happened LIKE!??!?…..BiTcH✨wHaT✨?

  • @alexd4566
    @alexd4566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7541

    SA against men is often not taken seriously and just laughed away, whether the perpetrator is a man or a woman. I’m glad you came forward with your story so that other victims may find the courage to do the same. Take care

    • @iinjwections
      @iinjwections 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I feel like if jack read this he would feel a lot better

    • @emoneydev8684
      @emoneydev8684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hm

    • @shyjay808
      @shyjay808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      True. I've heard some disgusting people say that men can't get assaulted because "they like it". like wtf?

    • @eternalgh0st848
      @eternalgh0st848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Her response is disrespectful.
      th-cam.com/video/9Z4hr5IuFcQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @Bestbuilt04
      @Bestbuilt04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not taken seriously cuz of feminists

  • @leila_alexis_
    @leila_alexis_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2240

    This girl is physhotic. No one should ever have to go through what Jack went through I feel so bad for him.

    • @mango6195
      @mango6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      she needs to get locked up

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow Sienna really tried to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @phoebelim6027
    @phoebelim6027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    the fact she's back at social media like this never ever happen. it's just disappointing that people take this so lightly and make it into like an entertainment. fucking hate society seriously.

    • @jennifermoriarty2188
      @jennifermoriarty2188 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't hate it will ruin you. Online drama is just that ..an online soap opera with things taken out of context to manipulate you....

  • @aalexismarie
    @aalexismarie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125659

    im so sorry people didnt believe you at first, it’s disgusting how much people neglect male victims in these situations. i know how hard it is to come out and speak out about your abuser and everyone is so proud of you.

    • @christopherreyes2390
      @christopherreyes2390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +711

      My girlfriend likes you more than me

    • @josselynacevedo9286
      @josselynacevedo9286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +583

      glad ur supporting alexis!

    • @alyssapena672
      @alyssapena672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      what she said!! so sorry about this and so proud of you for this

    • @cheezitz3846
      @cheezitz3846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@christopherreyes2390 we have the same last name lol

    • @cheezitz3846
      @cheezitz3846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ❤️

  • @saniyadai
    @saniyadai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2512

    the fact that people don’t believe him disgusts me.

    • @tiffany4991
      @tiffany4991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mhm

    • @jenlel2707
      @jenlel2707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Exactly it infuriates me so much.

    • @JuliaFerreira-rn6yj
      @JuliaFerreira-rn6yj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fr

    • @benjaminhence
      @benjaminhence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Exactly. She even turned off her TikTok comments and adjusted her privacy settings so she can’t be mentioned in a video

    • @vafito44
      @vafito44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea it’s messed up smh

  • @paulettejordan8505
    @paulettejordan8505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2361

    You're so brave. Sexual assault needs to be taken seriously regardless of gender.

    • @ripxgdott27
      @ripxgdott27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Life Sucks 💯

    • @narutosraman
      @narutosraman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Life Sucks it’s really not. But it’s not a competition either way

    • @swagking4848
      @swagking4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@narutosraman I get it’s not a competition but it should still be known that men aren’t taken seriously so that people are aware

    • @Loonaurtheworld
      @Loonaurtheworld 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swagking4848 Sadly agree...

    • @OReily08080
      @OReily08080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swagking4848 right, because it's disgusting how they could be laughed at

  • @samuelito25146
    @samuelito25146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    The fact that she still isn’t detained or being charged is absolutely disgusting and makes my blood boil, I pray that Jack is coping well nowadays and has found peace 🙏🏽

    • @garrethutchington1663
      @garrethutchington1663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason is he's speaking out of his ass. The prick is doing a disservice to real abuse survivors.

    • @smileyface8057
      @smileyface8057 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s cuz he won’t press charges, which is totally his choice, if he doesn’t want to go through those experiences I can support that

    • @tinntinnamp
      @tinntinnamp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smileyface8057 I think it's because the one video he has as proof is her just standing over him being passed out. Not really proof at all. unless they had pics of her grabbing his penis, yeah, but that's how it works. You can't say someone harrassed you if they didn't (not saying she didn't 100 percent I see she did) but the proof was one image of a person standing and him sleeping. Not really proof at all. His emotional dialogue makes me believe him, but that's not what matters in court. I WANT TO POINT OUT I TOTALLY BELIEVE him I experienced abuse as well. Just stating there are "standards" in court no matter how bad that seems

    • @cugglymonster
      @cugglymonster ปีที่แล้ว

      Look everyone, it’s the male Amber Heard! Always lying about SA! 🤮🤢💩🤡Jack was bitter that Sienna messed with his business; she left his toxic ass & that hurt his views when they stopped making videos together. Jack also quickly and quietly settled the matter when Sienna got lawyers involved! 🤣 he had no case and he knew it. He never filed any SA charges. Sienna’s legal team destroyed his credibility! That 2.5 sec video was proven HEAVILY altered. That’s why Jack settled this quietly w/Sienna’s lawyers. Jack is gay & Sienna was his cover. She ghosted him after realizing he was using her & he felt like he MADE her a ⭐️ so he wanted revenge. He’s a liar! 😂

    • @aishaaa._
      @aishaaa._ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Y’all are being so dumb in these comments talking “why ain’t she in jail ?” that’s probably because she’s not guilty

  • @marjoriecordova8029
    @marjoriecordova8029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1923

    The fact that he was trying to be gentle with her while she was literally assaulting him is just SO heartbreaking. He really cared for her as a friend and she was so unhealthily obsessed and selfish.

    • @natashakenani
      @natashakenani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      no seriously and watching him cry is sooo sad cause he’s trying to be so kind yet you can see that, that rly hurt & effected himmm 😣😣 i feel so horrible & he’s a boy so sometimes people done treat males the same way they would treat a girl in the situation so he must be nervous to even film & release this.. sorry if my comment didn’t make sense i’m not the best at typing what i mean :).

    • @morg6045
      @morg6045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sexually assaulting someone while they are asleep, or in general especially when boundaries have been clearly stated numerous times, is not obsession. And the fact she tried to do it MANY times, even while there were other people in the room with them, shows she finds some type of weird pleasure out of sexually assaulting men when they are vulnerable. That isn't obsession, that sounds like a jail sentence, but sadly she is a woman and more than likely won't be prosecuted.

    • @marjoriecordova8029
      @marjoriecordova8029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morg6045 well she was OBSESSED the assault wasn’t because of her obsession she’s just fucked up and disgusting but she was unhealthily obsessed with jack

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sienna reallyy tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @SilverBluud
    @SilverBluud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4113

    This is EXACTLY why people don't take men who were SA seriously, the people who are defending her are so disgusting. I'm proud of you for speaking out

    • @shaniam2045
      @shaniam2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      EXACTLY!!! she deserves to go to jail for whatever she has done to Jack and the other men she had SA before...

    • @dinaalq
      @dinaalq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@shaniam2045 EXACTLY.

    • @ohno7153
      @ohno7153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      the amount of victim blaming ‘they seemed close..’ on sienna mae’s “are me and jack wright dating?” video is appalling

    • @mattsabean
      @mattsabean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean if you think about the actions after it happens? that girl ain’t canceled she’s getting praised every video if it was the other way around jack would be canceled for lyfe

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

  • @abbytaff7263
    @abbytaff7263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5440

    society needs to realize women can be toxic and that men can be assaulted too. sienna is a horrible human being and what she did was absolutely disgusting. none of this was jacks fault and it breaks my heart that she made him think that it was all his fault. so happy you shared your story. I am on your side

    • @princess_selfimprovement
      @princess_selfimprovement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Also the fact that just because you think that someone looks pretty or good or is popular/famous like sienna, doesn't validate everything they do. I've seen ppl do this with characters in tv shows, and it slowly turned into how they view people in real life too.

    • @matthewcrome5835
      @matthewcrome5835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      For some reason, so many people have this sexist mental block where they think that women can't be abusive, sexually predatory, or even just bad people in general. Women are not these innocent angels, and they have sex drives, and sometimes they use their sex drives to hurt other people, just like male predators do. Yes, the majority of women (and men) are good people, but there are a minority of people who are scumbags. Also, there's also the whole "he should have wanted it" idiocy that comes up whenever a man is sexually assaulted by a woman. (Or "where was she when I was a kid" when it comes to pedophilic relationships between teachers and students.) Your gender does not mean you "wanted" an assault. No one "wants" to be sexually assaulted. And men don't want sex all of the time, they are allowed to have boundaries just like women do.

    • @mrsaep-ck2de
      @mrsaep-ck2de 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@matthewcrome5835 well that’s the thing actually majority of men have either sexually assaulted, harassed, slut shamed, r@ped, etc. so i don’t think majority of men are good people but some are but other than that everything your saying is completely valid and i agree with

    • @princess_selfimprovement
      @princess_selfimprovement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@matthewcrome5835 Yeah honestly, assuming women don't have sex drives is honestly damaging and sexist to men, but also women too. It makes women act in crazy ways to prove that they have a sex drive which damages them, and it also makes people think that they can't be sexually predatory which damages men.

    • @potatosalesman1056
      @potatosalesman1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@matthewcrome5835 I think it also comes from misogyny. That suppresses men from their emotions and its hard from them to come out with trauma they experience. People will blame men saying he's a man, he's strong enough to defend himself, or say " did u like it". It's common with men with teacher scenarios. It's sad really, that people still support this girl even when evidence and multiple people coming forward as witnesses. She posted a statement and all It sounded like (to summarize) , saying how she just turned 18, making it out she's a little girl and she's sad all these things came out. She kept bringing up her age, and how sad she is for sympathy points.

  • @jayn2i
    @jayn2i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    And people still Support her?! Wtf is wrong with People🤦‍♀️ so sorry that you have to go through that.. thank you for speaking up!

    • @MrMontreal
      @MrMontreal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Society is just cursed at this point 💀

    • @starpink1
      @starpink1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She filters comments and deletes the negative and calling out ones

    • @starpink1
      @starpink1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrMontreal she deletes the negative and calling out ones

    • @Not_Lewis
      @Not_Lewis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because we live in a society of double standards. Had a guy done this he would have already been in jail.

  • @amayahh.2126
    @amayahh.2126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5689

    People don’t understand about how long this takes to talk about and how painful it is. We are so proud of you Jack. I definitely believe you. Nobody deserves to go through that.

    • @isabella-ig6hp
      @isabella-ig6hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This was so hard to listen to. We’re all so sorry It’s so difficult to get out of those situations, you don’t see the reality of it because it’s so normal.. take time to heal and process. Focus on urself❤️

    • @beyoncebop198
      @beyoncebop198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No Beyoncé painful 😤

    • @waltuhhartwellwhitesr.4630
      @waltuhhartwellwhitesr.4630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@beyoncebop198 truth!

    • @TheVillageBeast
      @TheVillageBeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      !!!!!!!

    • @O123-d9w
      @O123-d9w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      after seeing Jack’s video, I didn’t just conclude “omg she’s a rapist”. If this was taken to court she’d still have a hearing… I read her article and did some other research to come up with my conclusions… I don’t just go off what tea blogs/one person says… there’s also 3 sides to every story

  • @adadaddada1226
    @adadaddada1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7688

    i hope this doesn't just get solved as an internet problem. what sienna did to you and other men is horrible and she deserves jail time for it.

    • @raymondtravels9949
      @raymondtravels9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html.

    • @Vince_Cuh
      @Vince_Cuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Oh but she's a woman and for some reason they can falsely accuse men with no evidence and ruin their lives but you can have evidence of a woman and nothing happens

    • @swimawaylittlefish1542
      @swimawaylittlefish1542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      @@Vince_Cuh this is some pointless what-about-ism :/ she defo deserves jail time, as does anyone who has SA’d someone, but your point is not relevant to the issue here 😬

    • @Vince_Cuh
      @Vince_Cuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@swimawaylittlefish1542 it's not what about ism. You see so many men with no evidence on them get reported to the police falsely and over here we have evidence of her doing it but all she has to do is deny it and everyone is on her side

    • @jocelynflowers
      @jocelynflowers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      men don’t even get jail time for sexually assaulting women. she’s probably just gonna have to pay money and then her career image will be ruined.
      edit: of course i believe sienna needs to pay, just like any other sexual predator (male or female, or whatever). unfortunately our justice system is corrupt and has proven all throughout history to not stand for the people. they’re greedy and only care about money=power. harsh reality.

  • @IssaH437
    @IssaH437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4268

    The fact that he’s calm and she was all defensive says it all. I believed him from the start. I always believe the victim once I know more about it. I feel very sorry for jack. I hope (disrespectfully) Sienna gets what she deserves.

    • @Its420somewheree
      @Its420somewheree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      EXTREMELY disrespectfully

    • @charlottevanparys1998
      @charlottevanparys1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html...

    • @giant_rat7781
      @giant_rat7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I read some of her statement she posted on her Instagram story, it’s ridiculous she’s still denying everything

    • @ghostrecon3834
      @ghostrecon3834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Facts. I feel horrible for the guy. He seems like a genuine person who never deserved any of this.

    • @addkeifspsdcvl
      @addkeifspsdcvl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Dk_Thefirst you need to find a better way of promoting your worthless content instead of polluting a comment section on a video about SA.

  • @garrurus9084
    @garrurus9084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Just got out of a 10 month long toxic relationship, due to her sexually assaulting and manipulating me to having sex with her, I kept saying no, we were at a party with alcohol and she kept saying "you don't love me, you hate me". Nobody is alone with sexual assault, all types of assault have no gender and everyone's voice deserves to be heard and given support, I'm always here for anyone going through this.

    • @garrurus9084
      @garrurus9084 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Beloved I'm so sorry to hear that love, I'm here to talk and it's scary how people you love can manipulate you and you don't even notice. My way of healing was to reach out to my family and develop habits that benefit myself. Don't worry about building that trust okay, it may feel like you can never trust again and I feel that too, however I hope one day we can both find someone who helps us heal. Thank you for sharing your story 💙

    • @garrurus9084
      @garrurus9084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Beloved waking up to this reply is certainly the highlight of my day, sending you love, kindness and healing too 😊🙏

  • @abeetheperson1
    @abeetheperson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4349

    A LOT of male victims don’t come out because LITERALLY no one believes us or even tries too. Proud of you my boy‼️💯💯💯

    • @fuzzlyproductions7410
      @fuzzlyproductions7410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      FOR REAL! proud if u jack

    • @jacob6645
      @jacob6645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      THIS.

    • @sandrafidler3548
      @sandrafidler3548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I’m so sorry for you male victims, may your voices be heard.

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html......

    • @quietworld2267
      @quietworld2267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sorry for the male victims out there, you don't deserve what you went through. Your feelings are valid and you deserve better (:

  • @caramelizedcarrot8164
    @caramelizedcarrot8164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4014

    I’m a male. I haven’t told anyone. It’s physically impossible for me. Even writing this anonymously I can’t say it. So I couldn’t imagine doing this. So much respect for you.

    • @casvhs
      @casvhs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      i’m so sorry.

    • @sternaldragon58
      @sternaldragon58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      Mad respect for even implying it, stay strong 💪🏾

    • @skivfuis
      @skivfuis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      im so sorry

    • @rayney1950
      @rayney1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      i’m so sorry love :( stay strong

    • @spike__
      @spike__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Im sorry that happened to you, stay strong 🙏

  • @oliviahignell7095
    @oliviahignell7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5601

    My heart goes out to this man , he was put into such horrible situations. She is a sick person who clearly had an obsession. I’m so happy he was able to cut out such a toxic person out of his life . I hope she is overwhelmed with guilt .

    • @ngirlsdiary
      @ngirlsdiary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      💚Jesus lived the life we couldn't live and died the death we deserve. Repent of your sins and trust in Him💙

    • @tinax2216
      @tinax2216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Dontannoyme34894 oh shut up

    • @vilheim4753
      @vilheim4753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dontannoyme34894 everything will come to light hopefully

    • @subaruimpreza3676
      @subaruimpreza3676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      This fucker is knocked out, and you want him to walk away? Think about what you just said.

    • @sira9054
      @sira9054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      you obviously have no idea what sexual abuse is or how people react during abuse. educate yourself on that before you make untrue statements that can harm others.

  • @abbylaska3828
    @abbylaska3828 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Over a year later and I still feel soooo bad for him 💔

    • @cugglymonster
      @cugglymonster ปีที่แล้ว

      Look everyone, it’s the male Amber Heard! Always lying about SA! 🤮🤢💩🤡Jack was bitter that Sienna messed with his business; she left his toxic ass & that hurt his views when they stopped making videos together. Jack also quickly and quietly settled the matter when Sienna got lawyers involved! 🤣 he had no case and he knew it. He never filed any SA charges. Sienna’s legal team destroyed his credibility! That 2.5 sec video was proven HEAVILY altered. That’s why Jack settled this quietly w/Sienna’s lawyers. Jack is gay & Sienna was his cover. She ghosted him after realizing he was using her & he felt like he MADE her a ⭐️ so he wanted revenge. He’s a liar! 😂

  • @SugaStarr
    @SugaStarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1948

    Bottom line: “no” and “stop” are a full sentence. If anyone, man or woman, tells someone to “stop” or “no”, that’s that. It doesn’t matter if you’re friends, lovers, or strangers. No explanation is necessary. Anything further is assault and abuse. We need to normalize and accept that boys/men can be a victim of assault and rape. It doesn’t make a man “gay” or “weak” it means they have boundaries that need to be respected. Sexual abuse is not only a man against a woman. It also sounds like aside from the assault she’s guilty of breaking and entering. Hopefully she gets the mental health help she needs and He gets justice.

    • @Whosnari
      @Whosnari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YESS THIS

    • @anymarcos2355
      @anymarcos2355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      most women are fully aware of consent, this girl has a problem. she is wrong in the head

    • @TheChosen217
      @TheChosen217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sexual assault also happens between men and men.

    • @naomis9225
      @naomis9225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And women on women.. what’s your point??

    • @hasanadaze5735
      @hasanadaze5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@naomis9225 their point is people are sick and people who do stuff like she did needs to be held accountable

  • @jason_sythedasilva5859
    @jason_sythedasilva5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3561

    I didn't know this dude till today, but this is a sharp sting in the male community that no one believed him and so you know I'm there for jack and sienna deserves no love at all

    • @LunarEleven
      @LunarEleven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      It's so difficult for any SA victim to speak and be heard but it's undoubtedly much harder for a male. I have known far too many guys who have suffered horrible sexual abuse and never got help because they knew society was not on their side. Heartbreaking!!

    • @sailormoon243
      @sailormoon243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It should never matter if someone is male or female, no means no. It's really sad that she did something like that to her friend. Sad...

    • @maxtaetle420
      @maxtaetle420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      while you are right that male rape cases tend to go uncovered i feel like people really supported jack here and i’m very happy about that

    • @Southparkfan598
      @Southparkfan598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxtaetle420 Same, but idiots think otherwise

  • @cnsdj215
    @cnsdj215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1866

    the fact that she still posts tiktoks like nothing happened is horrifying

  • @nscott2590
    @nscott2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Her “apology” video is disturbing and reeks of narcissism and apathy.

  • @briannaa7008
    @briannaa7008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2451

    just by his body language you can tell he is so nervous & afraid to speak out… i admire your bravery & courage. hopefully this inspires other male victims to come & speak out against their abuser.

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html......

    • @00pium4u
      @00pium4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True 🤞🏾‼️

    • @AbdulRaheem-wi8bq
      @AbdulRaheem-wi8bq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That what the first thing I realised

    • @Ads.loves.him.
      @Ads.loves.him. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AbdulRaheem-wi8bq yea same

  • @fluke2404
    @fluke2404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2050

    to this day, i still don’t understand how sienna is out here living lavishly with this shit left unresolved.. u deserve so much better man

    • @staryaryy
      @staryaryy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      rightt

    • @oatmilk4breakfast
      @oatmilk4breakfast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      right!! she needs consequences she can't just walk away like wtf

    • @rainefyre6750
      @rainefyre6750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oatmilk4breakfast agreed

    • @Joyfulliess
      @Joyfulliess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right

    • @Caughtbymikey
      @Caughtbymikey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Facts. If the roles were reversed bet u boy would locked up

  • @maaatss
    @maaatss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4042

    this isn’t fair. she’s out there acting like nothing happened. but i’m sure you’ll get some justice, everyone is here for you, we’re so proud of you, and i’m sure that it took a lot of courage to say this and post it. stay strong jack, much love

    • @kogumahaechan
      @kogumahaechan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      wishi could repost a comment , the situation is truly disgusting

    • @mialeorux3584
      @mialeorux3584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even I am an to cry to this comment, it’s so sweet. (I’m very emotional cuz it’s late at night lol

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

    • @Forca_Barca
      @Forca_Barca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg she's LaTiNa guys so she isnt guilty 🥺🥺

    • @xavierplymptonstongue54
      @xavierplymptonstongue54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Forca_Barca ?

  • @telepathicalserendipity.ot1728
    @telepathicalserendipity.ot1728 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Honestly being able to be strong enough to be able to speak up and say your part is so fucking strong. Please stay strong

    • @juanitamorgan5475
      @juanitamorgan5475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She wasn't just sexually assaulting him she was stalking him like crazy and nobody did anything to even put her behind bars just because she's a woman

  • @margaridabaldini
    @margaridabaldini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9234

    SA is genderless, and can happen to anyone. You are so strong for speaking out about it and spreading awareness!

    • @mannaogunseye9112
      @mannaogunseye9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bro wnat

    • @honeybear5792
      @honeybear5792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      @@mannaogunseye9112 Many people turn a blind eye when it comes to men being SA'd because of many stereotypes put on men.

    • @puppiestgirl
      @puppiestgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@honeybear5792 simply not true at all. this is a rally cry that i keep seeing in the comments.

    • @amelie9032
      @amelie9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      @@puppiestgirl no it’s true. It’s mostly other men who invalidate male SA and they say stuff like “you’re lucky”

    • @aronphilip2782
      @aronphilip2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      @@puppiestgirl grow up ok ???! It is true that majority of the time men gets falsely accused and when a man gets assaulted he is said to stop whining and man up. U can't pretend to live in ur world shutting out the truth and this is the fkin truth

  • @ZephanClark
    @ZephanClark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89036

    for a man to be brave like this is inspiring. so much respect for you jack

    • @Ginny-k8t
      @Ginny-k8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      I believe Jack 🙏

    • @rileykozikuski3313
      @rileykozikuski3313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@Ginny-k8t L

    • @cassidyash7404
      @cassidyash7404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +561

      @@Ginny-k8t defending her for wut ?🤣 she don’t care bout u at all

    • @AshenSage.
      @AshenSage. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +514

      @@Ginny-k8t believe the victim until it’s a guy right? 🤨

    • @ashya678
      @ashya678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      @@AshenSage. this person literally said they believe jack, why are y’all getting mad at them

  • @hellokittybean
    @hellokittybean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4146

    i still can’t believe people support her because shes “pretty”. people are beyond sick.

    • @boop99
      @boop99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      She's not even that pretty, imo

    • @Embodiedbykarma
      @Embodiedbykarma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      She’s not even that pretty either in my opinion especially now

    • @Biruk006
      @Biruk006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      fr, she mid but even if she was pretty that still dont make shit like this right at all, if it was a man that popular he would immediately be slandered, cancelled, threatened and jailed for a long time

    • @boop99
      @boop99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Biruk006 Exactly

    • @hugs4cupid
      @hugs4cupid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Biruk006 it’s not a matter of gender lmao
      I have seen tons of male influences do disgusting crap like this and they still are being admired at.
      Though what she’s done is very disgusting, I really hope Jack can get better he doesn’t deserve to go through this.

  • @melodyrose4291
    @melodyrose4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I'm a SA survivor, I had a similar relationship with my abuser. I was 10-12 at the time, It was very manipulative and it was just a constant loop of them apologizing for the abuse and then repeating it. I'm very glad that your friends spoke up about it. It helps to have support. 💙💚
    Edit: I was only halfway through the video when I typed this. I just relate to you so much, the situation just starts to normalize itself and it's hard to break away from that. It takes a lot to tell your story. I told my best friend at the time and she told her parents and I don't know how much longer I would have been dealing with the abuse if I hadn't spoken out at all. You are strong 💙💜🌸

  • @thepassionatebeing3691
    @thepassionatebeing3691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2364

    This is absolutely horrifying to hear about. Stay strong, Jack. Sienna must be stopped

    • @user-rk9go5vb8s
      @user-rk9go5vb8s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Wesney--💞 you're a terrible person for commenting something like this on such a personal subject

    • @precious6303
      @precious6303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@user-rk9go5vb8s it’s a bot mate dw

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sienna really tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @vivianspitzer4554
    @vivianspitzer4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1630

    “nobody would believe a male in that situation” made my heart hurt. as someone who has experienced harassment and assault it is such a horrible and humiliating experience that nobody deserves to go through. i believe you jack

    • @uniqueenz3697
      @uniqueenz3697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @lanyc1013
      @lanyc1013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe males 100 percent! i believe females 100 percent! yes people lie but u can tell a lying sa victim to the real victim. he’s telling the truth 100 percent and she should be in jail

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sienna really tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @alexanderadams9008
    @alexanderadams9008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3644

    Holy shit, she’s a predator, as a pretty woman she gets a huge pass, as a guy we are expected to be “ok” with it. We deserve boundaries as much as women do, no means no regardless. It takes an exceptionally strong person to talk about it.. you’re a good guy

    • @LunarBoba
      @LunarBoba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This!

    • @breannalynn1809
      @breannalynn1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I came on here because I thought it was crazy it's all over my side of tiktok and I support him.

    • @Artificial_Idiot
      @Artificial_Idiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Reminds me of the girl who jumps on the random strangers lap (who are boys obv) for TikTok views thinking that it’s ok to “prank” them. in reality it’s obviously sexual harassment and obviously not ok regardless of which gender you’re in.
      I don’t really use TikTok btw and those videos was long ago I’m not sure if I’m remember correctly

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Artificial_Idiot aw man, i read this post on reddit about male victims of sa a couple of months back, and one of the experiences that was shared said the same thing. the guy said that he didn't know if he was being irrational and exaggerating, but that his sa was this girl he didn't know well sitting on his lap all night. he said that guys are supposed to be okay with that, like they're just expected to be, but that she didn't even ask him first. he just had to sit there, because he couldn't push her off. he said she was heavy and hurting his lap but he didn't know what to do. it's horrible. honestly, i don't understand the whole thing. i prefer to sit in a chair, but if i'm hanging out with my guy friends and one tugs me onto his lap, i don't complain. i wouldn't actively seek that from friends or acquaintances though, especially without knowing they were okay with it. some people believe they're entitled to the whole world.

    • @mansrevenge
      @mansrevenge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not exactly be okay with it, but handle it. He's a man. I won't deny she gets a pass for pretty privilege, but how does him allowing stuff like this to happen over and over to himself then coming out about it make him brave? Makes it sound like he made some mistakes in choosing friends and who to be around, because this was totally preventable. I hope they both learned valuable lessons

  • @SASHA_CMUSIC
    @SASHA_CMUSIC ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I’m late I know, but as a victim of sexual assault, it’s so big that you came forward about this. Huge respect for you. It’s so difficult when people start lying about all of that, especially when people start using their platform against the victim (she was using her platform, not you) gender is no exuse to sexual assault and I hope it gets better soon

    • @juanitamorgan5475
      @juanitamorgan5475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's very handsome man will spoken I hope he's doing well even if I don't personally know him as someone who was sexually assaulted I understand that woman should be in prison for what she did just because she's a woman doesn't give her an excuse to assault anyone

  • @zymphyr
    @zymphyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2169

    the fact she was breaking into his house and picking his locks is truly psychotic behaviour

    • @avapea24
      @avapea24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@saery4523 What you see on instagram or tiktok is not a representation of people at all. You only see a few minutes of their life every day. There are plenty of celebrities who have been arrested for similar offenses.

    • @itsmekjt
      @itsmekjt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@saery4523 i thought the person who assaulted me was nice and then they did something to me

    • @zoe-mv6ji
      @zoe-mv6ji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@saery4523 you literally don’t know her loool ofc u won’t know if someone is psychotic from their tiktok ?! Whereas rhis guys is literally shaking and it’s embarrassing for a guy to be public about sexual assault so he wouldn’t gain anything from lying

    • @saery4523
      @saery4523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@itsmekjt I’m sorry that happened to you

    • @saery4523
      @saery4523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoe-mv6ji he would gain fame, I’m not saying he is lying but he would definitely gain fame and attention from lying which sienna said he used her for fame so it’s not too far off.

  • @yomnaislam948
    @yomnaislam948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2772

    Sexual Assault does not happen to one gender, it can happen to anyone. Thank you for being honest, Jack. She will get what she deserves.

    • @yourlocalxx
      @yourlocalxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly.

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

    • @nsinnokrot
      @nsinnokrot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keanoaerssens9765 AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA THATS HER LAST RESORT LMFAOOO

    • @user-ix8lf6tm3c
      @user-ix8lf6tm3c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She's a woman, they always get away with this kind of stuff, even if it does go to court i doubt they would even give her jail time.

    • @yomnaislam948
      @yomnaislam948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@user-ix8lf6tm3c no no no, don't bring her gender into this.

  • @thescrubkid
    @thescrubkid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    It is truly fucking disgusting how people reacted to this. We are here for you.

  • @shayZero
    @shayZero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    As a survivor of domestic violance and a male, I can completely empathise with how hard it is to talk about it. A good friend of mine (my ex's mother) told me that thry knew what she was like and I did the right thing leaving her and they were sorry.
    And that was it.
    If the tables were turned I would have ended up in Prison, and thats the big issue really.
    I have no familiarity with yourself or sienna mae but all I can say is how brave it is to publically talk about it. The difference between women victims and male victims it seem is the support and the lack of backlash for the offending women, this is hard enough to talk about without having to deal with the very real laughter reaction that is unique to male victims.
    Imagine if a girl was abused for 18 months and people laughed in her face when they tryied to get it off their chest. It sucks, but the worm is turning now. Its starting to be seen. And that is Thanks to people like yourself.
    Thanks mate. I dont know who you are as i am 35 but what youre doing it important and making waves.

    • @joisspeaking
      @joisspeaking ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How did the men in your life and men in general react? Like, the ones you have spoken to. Do you feel like you have been taken seriously more by men or by women? I'm just curious. Whenever women talk about being SA by men, there are these dudes whose only response is, "This happens to men too." But when men like Jack Wright speak out about their SA, these same dudes call him a p***y and make fun of him. So, I don't get it.

    • @hikkyhaihikkyho318
      @hikkyhaihikkyho318 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've seen it happen to women too a disgusting amount of times. This shouldn't be a war between the genders when women are also so often sexually assaulted and not believed and their abusers continue to get support. it's unfair to say female victims have it easy when so often their allegations are completely dismissed and laughed at. You can support and uplift male victims without putting down female victims.

    • @marcus3173
      @marcus3173 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joisspeaking How do you know it's the same dudes, or is that an assumption?

    • @joisspeaking
      @joisspeaking ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcus3173 They out themselves in the comments all the time. It's the same dudes.

    • @cugglymonster
      @cugglymonster ปีที่แล้ว

      Look everyone, it’s the male Amber Heard! Always lying about SA! 🤮🤢💩🤡Jack was bitter that Sienna messed with his business; she left his toxic ass & that hurt his views when they stopped making videos together. Jack also quickly and quietly settled the matter when Sienna got lawyers involved! 🤣 he had no case and he knew it. He never filed any SA charges. Sienna’s legal team destroyed his credibility! That 2.5 sec video was proven HEAVILY altered. That’s why Jack settled this quietly w/Sienna’s lawyers. Jack is gay & Sienna was his cover. She ghosted him after realizing he was using her & he felt like he MADE her a ⭐️ so he wanted revenge. He’s a liar! 😂

  • @keishastewart8392
    @keishastewart8392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3731

    as a victim myself, he is telling the truth. his body language, and everything. we will all be here for you, and we will believe you no matter what.

    • @micahjungers7351
      @micahjungers7351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      "the look"

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html........

    • @L._._
      @L._._ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      100% believe him !

    • @megandonovan9418
      @megandonovan9418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I was thinking the same thing…. It hurts seeing people go through what you went through

    • @MM-zc6qv
      @MM-zc6qv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Definitely more legit than Sienna's vid. She sounded more like she was reading a statement (based on the evidence vid only, I didn't see her full vid)

  • @ilove_elephants1238
    @ilove_elephants1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1868

    her picking the lock is absolutely horrifying. I would be so terrified. You're so strong. I hope you stay well

    • @SofiaAgnew
      @SofiaAgnew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      fr that's psycho behavior

    • @ana6508
      @ana6508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SofiaAgnew exactly I mean her crying after doesn’t make me feel bad at all

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sienna reallyy tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @aespaeries
    @aespaeries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4987

    this is so sickening, she’s literally insane and i can’t believe she got away with this for so long. jack deserves sm better and i hope you know we’re here for you jack. 💕💕💕

    • @romanbatson47
      @romanbatson47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      She should be in jail

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sienna attempted to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html.

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      @Gabrielle-xp7xl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @strs.h
      @strs.h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Itsnotme_ travis scott💀

  • @Fruity.pebbles1
    @Fruity.pebbles1 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    By the end I was crying. You have such a beautiful soul and did not deserve this at all. I’m so glad that you have been able to grow and talk through this. Telling your story empowers both you and the other victims that hear it and I am so proud of you for speaking up against this horrible person. We love you💗

  • @vivianfoster5007
    @vivianfoster5007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2683

    This is not only going to open eyes about the truth of Jack & Sienna. This is going to open eyes of the youth and/or males who didn’t even know they were SA’d. My heart dropped when he told the story of her sneaking in and putting her hand there….& said he thought it was normal. I’m so sorry Jack. Awful.

    • @bobthebuilder8223
      @bobthebuilder8223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He a fruitcup

    • @rockorletleeknowme9302
      @rockorletleeknowme9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@bobthebuilder8223 ???? read the room weirdo

    • @naylee2813
      @naylee2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobthebuilder8223 you are disgusting, i hope you never have to go throught that, men can be victims too.

  • @Jessica__Vel
    @Jessica__Vel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3578

    I teared up when you said “No one believes a male… especially in that situation.” I can’t imagine how much all this hurts and traumatized you. You will get through this, truly. This is a long healing process but you will heal soon, we all supported you since the beginning of this situation and will continue to throughout your healing 🖤

    • @animesenpai1163
      @animesenpai1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah, I think in some countries you can't accuse a woman of r***
      only minor offenses.

    • @slambotv1334
      @slambotv1334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      How people are so much more skeptical when its a male victim, it just sucks.

    • @animesenpai1163
      @animesenpai1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @aquemini where did I insuiate that men are being oppressed?
      Tf I was talking about what happened in Israel where they were voting on a law which allows women to be charged with r***...
      But tons of feminist gathered, protested and stopped that law from passing.
      It wasn't even about the men, it was those underaged boys/teens.
      Also r*** is r*** no matter the context or country...
      You can charge your own marital partner with rape. in other countries it won't be considered one, so you think they're right?

    • @animesenpai1163
      @animesenpai1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @aquemini yep that's literally it, they were trying to change the definition of r*** to allow women to be persecuted with it. but feminist activists didn't want to change it. and I believe SA is a more gender neutral version of r*** at the start, but it became a broader term for anything that could also be categorized as S Harassment. As such non consented kissing or touching is also included in SA.

    • @ciarafleming2485
      @ciarafleming2485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It broke my heart when he started crying, he deserves so much better

  • @laneydragsbaek3811
    @laneydragsbaek3811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2006

    i feel so so terrible for him. men being sexually assaulted is something that is not spoken about enough. i am so sorry this happened to jack or anyone with a similar experience.

    • @LVN_JAY
      @LVN_JAY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No such thing as sexual assault for a man unless it was by another man but if its female doing it to a man u should enjoy it tf u mean

    • @laneydragsbaek3811
      @laneydragsbaek3811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@LVN_JAY no one regardless of gender is allowed to touch someone without consent

    • @LVN_JAY
      @LVN_JAY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laneydragsbaek3811 idc bro if a man doesn’t like to be touched by a female wouldn’t that make u sound gay and if u think it doesn’t then u must be gay your dam self.

    • @wwesean03
      @wwesean03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@LVN_JAY you’re definitely 15

    • @boyswithluv7077
      @boyswithluv7077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@LVN_JAY not wanting affection is completely fine cause they’re called BOUNDARIES. I guarantee that if they don’t want to be touched by a woman they don’t want to be touched by a man either. It doesn’t matter the gender, it matters what they’re DOING. You’re goofy asf for invalidating this man’s story because his is as perfectly valid as anyone else’s.

  • @raphaelrobles8104
    @raphaelrobles8104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    She deserves jail time. Let's be honest.

  • @ansleyspinks1
    @ansleyspinks1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31031

    I’m so proud of you jack for sharing your story.

    • @Ginny-k8t
      @Ginny-k8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah

    • @Ginny-k8t
      @Ginny-k8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      He's definitely telling the truth

    • @jacobmogg2097
      @jacobmogg2097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Ginny-k8t no

    • @yrasdump
      @yrasdump 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      @@Ginny-k8t how would he be lying?

    • @mariantavarez1937
      @mariantavarez1937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      @@Ginny-k8t and where’s sienna proof, she only “just talked about it” as well

  • @soda_sparkss
    @soda_sparkss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1562

    The way she acted towards you was straight up creepy and obsessive. You didn't deserve to live that nightmare. You're incredibly strong and we're all here supporting you.

    • @keanoaerssens9765
      @keanoaerssens9765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

  • @im.del_usional
    @im.del_usional 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1891

    jack, NEVER blame YOURSELF for what SHE did. i’m so proud of you for speaking up and i am truly sorry for what sienna did.

  • @pikachuthebananasplit9061
    @pikachuthebananasplit9061 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm so sorry you had to go through all that terror.
    I'm proud of you for speaking out and revealing the demon Sienna is.
    We are all here for you buddy!
    She dosen't have an army, but you have us, we're your army!

  • @NegativeAccelerate
    @NegativeAccelerate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1569

    I know a lot of men that have had women rape them while unconscious. Society laughs at them when they speak out. No one takes it seriously. They themselves think nothing is wrong with it. Jack will hopefully inspire a lot of men to acknowledge the fact that it is rape and it’s ok to say it was wrong and that they deserve better. Jack sharing his whole story on the internet is pretty courageous and it will do a lot of good.

    • @pixility5612
      @pixility5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      It’s always the people that think like: “But your a man, you could’ve done something.”
      Those are the same people that don’t take this seriously… It’s disturbing tbh..

    • @laurynparris11
      @laurynparris11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Unfortunately with cases with men women cannot get the same charge as the definition of rape is penetration she can only be charged with serious sexual assault and harassment it’s messed up but it’s the world we r currently living in hopefully something about that can change because honestly this is just like a female rape victim telling her story the constant stalking is emotional abuse especially considering she was his friend to begin with she abused that trust and when abused like jack said the victim ends up allowing some of the behaviours because they become so normalised after repeatedly happening u start to believe they aren’t abusing you because of the love you have for them based on ur relationship with them in this case it was his friend who he trusted and allowed into his life like this so he probably felt somewhat to blame as he explained in the video and why it went on for so long but this is defo things that need to be spoken about I’m 21 learnt all this in secondary school and was disheartened back then to find out the law behind it bu also couldn’t figure out why there weren’t so many men speaking out about it and so many women stepping forward especially after the me too movement the world is a safe space for all victims to speak up not just women I know there’s some who ruin it with their beliefs but I think we live in a world now where things we’ve known have needed to change r starting to and these issues can and should be dealt with this just angers me tho because it brings gender to something that doesn’t even deserve gender to be involved it’s like murder u don’t change the charge from male to female abuse is abuse and it hurts and traumatises ppl regardless of anything to with their gender and it affects all rape victims women included when gender is what defines rape still up to now

    • @raven-chan2071
      @raven-chan2071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laurynparris11 Yeah thats really sexist and scary

    • @horstgunther5574
      @horstgunther5574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately this is not true as the definition and persecution of rape depends on the country it happened in. A lot of countries have non-gendered definitions of rape, as in “rape is an unwanted and/or forceful insertion of a penis/an object into another’s body without their consent/against their will” or sth like that. Additionally, if a woman is prosecuted for sexual assault because of gendered laws she cannot rape and there is no maximum jail time/punishment for sexual assault, often times the judges will harshly punish the perpetrator, even if it is “only” for secual assault and not the “full” rape.

    • @laurynparris11
      @laurynparris11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@horstgunther5574 regardless of different laws in different countries and states it still boils down to the reason rape means penetration which is why the law is the way it is in certain places the actual definition of rape is penetration it takes penetration to rape someone so if the female used a strap on it rape I’m not saying this is right or the right system but if a girl puts a mans penis inside her he can easily get out of the situation unless she’s stronger or using his weakness as a point to strike whereas if a guy rapes a girl they will feel like they can’t move or do anything u may see some try to fight but the ultimate power is in the strong mans hands and fighting whilst having a dry downstairs with unwanted dick in it isn’t easy I’m not saying the laws right but there are different charges for a reason although in some countries they do ppl for rape even when it’s sexual assault it doesn’t mean that becomes rape as well the English language is created in a complicated way but it’s not hard to understand that rape and sexual assault/ serious sexual assault are 2 different things I don’t think the charges should be different in this case this girl is definitely what I deem a rapist and probably gonna end up hurting a lot more if she hasn’t already but the actual word rape/rapist and meaning behind it have nothing to do with this case as there was no penetration it’s crazy that that is the case but I weren’t stating what I agree with and like in this comment I’m explaining the English language regardless of how other countries might like to play with it

  • @Okkitsyniah
    @Okkitsyniah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7859

    She is absolutely disgusting. The fact that she's able to just walk freely on this is bothering me so much. Im so sorry jack. You're amazing to speak on this, this may have inspired so many people. We love you jack.❤️

    • @bootyeater
      @bootyeater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      playboicarti

    • @braylanflorence7744
      @braylanflorence7744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bootyeater fr

    • @katkay9923
      @katkay9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bootyeater What?

    • @Cashe0
      @Cashe0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh no even if the law won’t take a stand. The internet won’t let her live with herself watch💯happens all the time.

    • @bambamdagoatgodwright7638
      @bambamdagoatgodwright7638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro she thought it was a movie

  • @jonmosslol
    @jonmosslol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4613

    This had to be Painful and I’m so glad that the truth is finally prevailing

    • @marcorecio6252
      @marcorecio6252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      jon!

    • @isabeldominguez9829
      @isabeldominguez9829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @mr nobody read the room

    • @charlottevanparys1998
      @charlottevanparys1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sienna attempted to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

    • @raymondtravels9949
      @raymondtravels9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/B7gEoPXyO-I/w-d-xo.html.

  • @dariabalashova2665
    @dariabalashova2665 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    thank you so much for speaking up. i was assaulted by my ex bf and never had the courage to speak up, so seeing other people doing it is so important, especially for awerness about s.a. i hope you will be able to heal

  • @rkid4228
    @rkid4228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4526

    This kind of behaviour not immediately leading to her arrest disgusts me, she’s disgusting and pathetic and you’ve handled this with incredible care and courtesy, we are all here for you Jack

    • @aisxhar
      @aisxhar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I really hope she gets what she deserves. No one deserves to go through something like this

    • @lucaswb7387
      @lucaswb7387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It’s because she’s a girl, if a man did it he wouldve been in jail even before he broke in

    • @riff_lord_6955
      @riff_lord_6955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Manifesto yeah that is the case a lot of the time but this has literal video proof not to mention all the people who have seen it and back him up. If the situation was reversed I guarantee a man would be in jail the night it was filmed or the next day at latest, but I see what you’re saying and it definitely isn’t false

    • @camishavilme7402
      @camishavilme7402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Riff_Lord_69 don’t guarantee it because I’ve seen cases like this for women not end up in a charge. I’ve seen cases where men even confessed and judges have reversed decisions because the men “had bright futures ahead of them.” People are really inept and truly believe women get justice when most of the time THEY DO NOT.

    • @lucaswb7387
      @lucaswb7387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@camishavilme7402 “I’ve seen cases like this for women not end up in a charge” Well yeah but the truth is that a higher percentage of women are believed than men. So fuck off.

  • @bella-ch5kj
    @bella-ch5kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1123

    the fact that while trying to tell her no he still was worried about hurting her shows the good type of guy jack is. it also shows how she took advantage of a very good person in multiple ways.

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html.

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn Sienna really tried to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @MacTac141
    @MacTac141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2647

    As a male victim of sexual assault I just want to thank you. After 3 years seeing this finally gave me the courage to tell my friends and family about what happened to me and seek help. It sticks with you and messes with you but we’ll find a way to deal with it. I just honestly hope this video helps other people change their opinion, cause I’ve met many who don’t believe a woman can rape or sexually assault a man

    • @winn_rar
      @winn_rar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      you are so so strong and i'm so proud of you for having the courage to talk to your friends and family about it

    • @SN-vn6wb
      @SN-vn6wb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      stay strong!

    • @ilovenickwilde
      @ilovenickwilde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      you are so strong and i am so proud of you ❤️

    • @disliker7813
      @disliker7813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yayy! Your sexual assault experiences are NEVER any less valid because of your gender. Good job for talking about it, that’s really, REALLY tough and please know how incredibly strong you are for doing it!!!

    • @oneaeeeeopenwhenimsleeping4664
      @oneaeeeeopenwhenimsleeping4664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i hope your doing ok and staying strong. I also hope you found justice, its disgusting to see how people invalidate men's feelings as if they aren't human and don't have emotions? I hope the person that did this to you faced consequences for their terrible actions.

  • @sandierads4223
    @sandierads4223 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jack you will be ok. I know this was a year ago, but you will be ok. I’m so proud of you for being able to stand your ground and know your truth and confront it. I was too afraid to do that. I held it in for a lifetime. Welcome to being a survivor. This video popped on my feed out of nowhere and I knew I had to watch. This will only make you stronger. I am happy to hear you have a wonderful support system.

    • @juanitamorgan5475
      @juanitamorgan5475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel like she was obsessed with him or something like that and she couldn't get over the fact that he didn't see her as anything more than just a friend she wanted more and he just wanted to be friends but she took it too far by assaulting him and she also couldn't take no for any answer but no means know whether it's coming from a guy or girl

  • @zoeyencinares8956
    @zoeyencinares8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1600

    “Accountability feels like an attack when you’re not ready to acknowledge how your behavior harms others."
    Perfect example of Sienna Mae.

    • @chrisfarah5396
      @chrisfarah5396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html.

    • @lilfrench2898
      @lilfrench2898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @shamma4762
      @shamma4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow well said

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow Sienna reallyy tries to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @juju.2018
    @juju.2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2879

    People don’t talk about how sexual assault happens to men too. So proud of Jack for sharing his story. ❤️

    • @ke-rureizen4174
      @ke-rureizen4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html......

    • @Palesaa.Phoebee
      @Palesaa.Phoebee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can uu please explain to me what's going on😭 please

    • @gyz3r_273
      @gyz3r_273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Palesaa.Phoebee did u watch the vid?

    • @Palesaa.Phoebee
      @Palesaa.Phoebee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gyz3r_273 I'm watching it rn...ty

    • @peterstoops5683
      @peterstoops5683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sexual assault happening to a man would mean a large man assaulted a smaller man. this is not sexual assault, this is sexual fantasy come true

  • @flowerfreaks3961
    @flowerfreaks3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    “I was used to it” that broke me sienna is a horrible person.

  • @erikamohrmann7986
    @erikamohrmann7986 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think it's really brave of you to speak up like this. I've never heard of you till today, but it sounds like you're super genuine. I worry that there's an uptick in guys being taken advantage of, but i think you're helping a lot of people by being brave like this and speaking out. I hope you get the care you need and heal from this.

  • @Gracelouuisee
    @Gracelouuisee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2150

    She’s a disgusting human being, no one deserves what happened to u and we’re all so so proud of you jack

    • @name850
      @name850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro please word it differently next time😭

    • @lincolnpratt8221
      @lincolnpratt8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought u were talkin bout jack at first

    • @MattOceanz
      @MattOceanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mandem clicked copy and paste 💀

    • @ArnavCovers
      @ArnavCovers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@name850 why? If the genders were reversed the whole world would be in uproar. Op didn't say anything wrong.

    • @سلاوو
      @سلاوو 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hh

  • @taliameeker4675
    @taliameeker4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +643

    She doesn’t need to be cancelled, she needs to be sent to prison.

    • @elijahmay704
      @elijahmay704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah I feel like men in general are said to be the bad people when I comes to things like this

    • @captainghostlyranger
      @captainghostlyranger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ^^^

    • @crycrycry8529
      @crycrycry8529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elijahmay704 i agree but tbh a lot of other males downplay male victims of these types of situations, like all i see is “damn he gets more than me” or “you should be proud” “you should be happy” it’s fcking sick. This is why lot of male victims aren’t taken seriously because other men like to make sickening “jokes”

    • @alwayshardbeinganarsenalfan
      @alwayshardbeinganarsenalfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crycrycry8529 that’s true actually, but people that say that don’t know what true love is

  • @maddiewelbornx
    @maddiewelbornx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19928

    this is so raw and real. you cant make this up if you tried.. this is HUGE for a man to do. the world is behind you.. and anyone who isn’t SERIOUSLY needs to reevaluate.

    • @ggcol101
      @ggcol101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      this!!!

    • @Ginny-k8t
      @Ginny-k8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Shut up

    • @Ginny-k8t
      @Ginny-k8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You only want likes

    • @haiaza9424
      @haiaza9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +638

      @@Ginny-k8t this is actually sad you have 53 comments on this just one video

    • @sarahm2130
      @sarahm2130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +286

      @@Ginny-k8t u shut up theyre just being positive and theyre right

  • @trick2jee
    @trick2jee ปีที่แล้ว +40

    pretty sad how this was just forgotten about, she’s still making tik toks and playing a victim, and what’s worse is people still support her. this person is dangerous and should be in JAIL

    • @trick2jee
      @trick2jee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theperson-sp7zu just watched. absolute gold😂

  • @tarliahpaulsen17
    @tarliahpaulsen17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4387

    this is absolutely DISGUSTING. the things she did, are hard to forgive. who in the right mind would do such things. im thankful that you're speaking out about this very sensitive and hurtful subject. im sure your story helps/helped a lot of people, finally wanting to speak about their terrifying experience. can't believe people actually do such things. wish you all well.

    • @wek404
      @wek404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ur cute

    • @currentlyexisting4994
      @currentlyexisting4994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@wek404 tf

    • @leahkafeero3943
      @leahkafeero3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ur right but he can forgive her because if he can’t he won’t have peace

    • @sammysage1757
      @sammysage1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sandy_Water the hell did they do 💀

    • @TisLita
      @TisLita 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wek404 did you even read what they said 😭💀

  • @lilac.orchid316
    @lilac.orchid316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2570

    the fact that you didn’t want to be aggressive and hurt her even when she acted like she did just shows how good and pure of a person you are. i’m sorry you had to go through this

    • @pompengames2118
      @pompengames2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/fM9bRTezkwI/w-d-xo.html

    • @bubbletea6320
      @bubbletea6320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The King no one cares

  • @kathleensuarez2084
    @kathleensuarez2084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2417

    Being a victim to SA, you are giving people a voice that didn’t have one before. We are so proud of you, & appreciate you sharing this with everyone. Praying for your healing ❤️

    • @Itsnotme_
      @Itsnotme_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow Sienna really tried to apologize sounds like a Travis Scott apology, she lame frfr, been lame, I only supported her because I saw him hanging out with her :th-cam.com/video/Qjo7xCr92kU/w-d-xo.html

  • @Lilyanna298
    @Lilyanna298 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s very important that people understand that it’s normal to stay friendly with someone after abuse. People often take time to process trauma and often blame themselves or believe abuse myths. When I reported my sexual assault a lot of people, the entire friend group called me a liar and turned against me because I didn’t call it assault right away

  • @marpookie
    @marpookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4188

    We support 100%, male victims DO exist and are valid, no one should victim blame him for clear solid evidence and Sienna Mae's horrible apology video and excuses. We support you 100%

    • @mileycosplay9273
      @mileycosplay9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Even sienna stated it wasn’t an apology video. She said it was more of a statement. Not even apologising, people like her make me sick

    • @marpookie
      @marpookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@mileycosplay9273 thats more god awful, brooo what the hellll 😭

    • @legendjordan6936
      @legendjordan6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      it wasn't even an apology, just an excuse. "i'm young and I'm still learning" like what???

    • @mileycosplay9273
      @mileycosplay9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@legendjordan6936 exactly. Jack left it till she was 18 to put it out into the The public, she had plenty of time to learn. Although I’m not sure if she was educated in anything at all with her lack of brain cells.

    • @legendjordan6936
      @legendjordan6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mileycosplay9273 exactly, I feel like for the time she was "taking a break" she was just in denial, telling herself that she wasn't wrong even tho she quite literally is

  • @toshab.8361
    @toshab.8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2999

    I'm so sorry people didn't believe you. It's sad that male victims are never taken seriously and im proud of you for speaking your truth. I wish you all the best and hope you are healing well.

    • @kenaeavetelino522
      @kenaeavetelino522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      💯💯💯

    • @conspiracybarbie
      @conspiracybarbie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're never taken seriously because it's not believable

    • @TechRenaissance
      @TechRenaissance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those male victims go thru nothing women actually go thru. What woman still sees a man that’s breaking into her apartment and doing that? No woman would. Why is he not dumb?

    • @SpritualTima
      @SpritualTima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel bad I didn’t believe him

    • @toshab.8361
      @toshab.8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@conspiracybarbie well they should be taken seriously...men get sexually assaulted all the time and sadly people never believe them just bc their men

  • @user-nc8wc5mn4i
    @user-nc8wc5mn4i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4652

    It is never “too late” to talk about sexual assault. What sienna did was obviously terrible but the fact that people kept forcing him to talk about it after his friends talked about it and post literal video evidence is shitty too!

    • @adieupourtoujours4854
      @adieupourtoujours4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Isn't it obvious he's using something serious to gain views? Decides to talk about just because it's flopping

    • @myatolentino9854
      @myatolentino9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      @@adieupourtoujours4854 or is he genuinely speaking about something close and important to him to let people know his side of the story. Stop invaliding others trama and story’s for you own gain. Do better

    • @honestly2757
      @honestly2757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@adieupourtoujours4854 why arent u believing him?

    • @myatolentino9854
      @myatolentino9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@honestly2757 exactly any attention on this small minded human being is necessary to call them out, thank you

    • @marciamorgan3510
      @marciamorgan3510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@adieupourtoujours4854 he was sexually assaulted on multiple occasions & it took him so long to break out of the cycle of sienna abusing him. when info like this comes out it takes time to for the victim to process what was really going on. dont act dense.

  • @FourDozenEggs
    @FourDozenEggs ปีที่แล้ว +231

    It's disgusting that SA against men isn't taken nearly as seriously as SA against women.

    • @thealbinochimp
      @thealbinochimp ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Real, it is as women get the more softer treatment than men when it comes to this topic...

    • @mirrrstery
      @mirrrstery ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It’s barely taken seriously for women so I can’t imagine for men

    • @mirrrstery
      @mirrrstery ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thealbinochimpno

    • @ImmSpiderman2428
      @ImmSpiderman2428 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Both need to be taken equally seriously, SA has no gender

    • @ivorylightning4985
      @ivorylightning4985 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Neither is taken seriously, and these sorts of comments just make this an “us vrs them” argument and it doesn’t help anyone get the help and support they need.