Here Is How I Use Tags 🏷️ And Links 🔗️ In Obsidian To Manage My Zettelkasten 📝️

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    00:00 Welcome
    00:13 Intro
    00:23 What we're talking about today
    00:56 github.com/BryanJenksCommunit...
    01:32 Context and background
    01:40 / @linkingyourthinking
    02:11 Why and How are links and tags different in Obsidian
    02:52 The reason i use tags as indicators of status
    03:14 tags are soft links
    03:45 Graph view filtering based on status
    04:51 Hard Links link files together
    06:05 Commonly referenced tags getting promoted to MOC
    07:27 Seeing the emerging structure of the vault
    07:46 Avoiding front loaded heirarchical structuring
    08:21 Dealing with a top level organization
    09:43 Tag notes that exist but are not yet MOCs
    11:37 Traversing the linked MOCs
    12:19 Seeing your web of MOCs
    14:24 bryanjenkstech.ck.page/d4ec07...
    14:54 This practice is critical to managing a top level pool of notes
    16:18 Define your structure as you go not front loaded
    19:07 Wrapping up
    20:01 Outro
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  • @BryanJenks
    @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Want to get your hands on my Obsidian templates, Custom CSS, and Mermaid Diagram code? 👉🏻️bryanjenkstech.ck.page/d4ec0713d5
    00:00 Welcome
    00:13 Intro
    00:23 What we're talking about today
    00:56 github.com/BryanJenksCommunity/FAQ/discussions
    01:32 Context and background
    01:40 th-cam.com/channels/85D7ERwhke7wVqskV_DZUA.html
    02:11 Why and How are links and tags different in Obsidian
    02:52 The reason i use tags as indicators of status
    03:14 tags are soft links
    03:45 Graph view filtering based on status
    04:51 Hard Links link files together
    06:05 Commonly referenced tags getting promoted to MOC
    07:27 Seeing the emerging structure of the vault
    07:46 Avoiding front loaded heirarchical structuring
    08:21 Dealing with a top level organization
    09:43 Tag notes that exist but are not yet MOCs
    11:37 Traversing the linked MOCs
    12:19 Seeing your web of MOCs
    14:24 bryanjenkstech.ck.page/d4ec0713d5
    14:54 This practice is critical to managing a top level pool of notes
    16:18 Define your structure as you go not front loaded
    19:07 Wrapping up
    20:01 Outro

    • @learnfromany4064
      @learnfromany4064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bryan! Really useful approach for seeing what structure emerges through links. How do we acces the templates and all the obsidian goodies? I've subscribed to the newsletter but didn't receive them

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@learnfromany4064 depending on which newsletter sign up you may not have gotten them. send me a DM on discord and ill hook you up :)
      discord.gg/MxCVshN

    • @e555t66
      @e555t66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The discord link doesn't work anymore.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e555t66 just tested, it still does

  • @DrDanAllosso
    @DrDanAllosso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I like the workflow process of watching your "uncreated node" tags to see where your interest is clustering, and then promoting that node to being a "topic" in your MOC. Especially as an alternative to forcing a top-down hierarchy. Thanks for sharing!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @glossophone
    @glossophone 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is by far the most flexible system I have seen in Obsidian. It cuts down my anxiety in choosing the "perfect" system

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear!

  • @johnatwood8337
    @johnatwood8337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love the rigor of your thought process, your generosity in providing it, and your compassion in underlining that each person’s path is unique. Thanks!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so welcome!

    • @SamBorgman
      @SamBorgman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Bryan, this is old but if you see this it would help a lot. What if I use tags instead of links to files that don't exist, and then if a tag node becomes big how would I turn it into a MOC file? Guess there is no way to do that. I'm new to Obsidian and still can't feel comfortable with non-existant links. It just feels like I would want to click it expecting that file to have a MOC like content.

  • @GavinFreeborn
    @GavinFreeborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The whole moc thing seems like a really smart way to build up your note. Keep up the great work.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks man :) its all a bit cerebral but its fun 🤣️

  • @hc2159
    @hc2159 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i've been watching obsidian videos and this is the first one where it finally clicked with me. Everyone's examples are turning books they read into content. I work in STEM and your examples with MOCs for an information data not just interpretation of content is perfect...Thank you!!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      glad to help! you might also enjoy my dendron video :)

  • @squidmakesTV
    @squidmakesTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for making this video. It really gave me another perspective as to how to create a space that I like best for the way I like to work. You are doing an amazing job!
    You got my support in patreon :D

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! and thank you so much for your patronage! WOW!

  • @rockxx1974
    @rockxx1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hey Bryan, this is great! This "system" features the Zettelkasten-Principle that order and structure is a bottom-up-process and not a top-down-hierarchy. Very inspiring! Thanks!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @robdalton2
    @robdalton2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow.. just wow. Ive really been struggling with the topology of my notes, mostly being technical in nature (IT/security engineering) and this is absolutely the answer for me. I've struggled to find fellow users capturing similar topics here on YT, but you nailed it Bryan!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      im glad you found it helpful :)

  • @drakek5737
    @drakek5737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was sooo helpful, thank you so much for sharing. I've been haphazardly journalling/linking in Obsidian for a year now and only learned about the Zettelkasten system just recently. It's really intimidating to get started but we're finally getting there :)

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you found it helpful :)

  • @mariokugler1986
    @mariokugler1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best videos in building a second brain in Obsidian - helped me to resolve most of the friction in my system

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome to hear!

  • @carrieben-yisrael8206
    @carrieben-yisrael8206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE IT!! Being new I didn't realize how I can use the graph to locate/visual my reference points. Game changer. Thank you!!

  • @lfegri
    @lfegri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Bryan! Thank you for another great video! Very dense and thought provoking (these are my favorite videos :-)). I will be watching it multiple times for sure!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @adham9828
    @adham9828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw all your videos about obsidian and i can say that i've know everything about it now thanks from Egypt

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always more to learn, glad you find the videos helpful!

  • @deanj6722
    @deanj6722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Bryan! Your pic in the thumbnail is literally me when I watch your obsidian tutorials haha... it's complex but you make it easily understandable! thanks ..Have a good day/night!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad i make it understandable :)

  • @FaradayAcademy
    @FaradayAcademy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the video I have been waiting for!!! Thanks Bryan :)

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh im so glad :D hope you enjoy it!

  • @whatyeahb
    @whatyeahb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Bryan! this video helps me a lot. I use obsidian for less than a month and find it marvelous as a note-taking app.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @JackBeaudoin
    @JackBeaudoin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    First time viewer... The distinction between your "Second Brain" and your Zettelkasten is spot-on. My primary vault is my "Universal Notebook" and my zettelkasten is a subset of that. Using Nick Milo's MOC approach for organic structure makes the whole thing possible.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      most of my ZK is denoted with 4 status tags, everything else is MOC's or other notes like for school or my daily notes.
      #🌱️ seedling ideas
      #🌞️ incubating ideas
      #🌲️ evergreen notes
      #📥️ inputs

    • @AK-ox3mv
      @AK-ox3mv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks im looking for full list of what you mentioned in 4:00 . Can you list all of them, because they don't have name in video and i dont know in which video i can find them.
      Thanks

  • @LuanSRezende
    @LuanSRezende 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting approach to tags and the use of links to create a MOC from bottom-up. Thanks for sharing, you gave me new insights to work on!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are too kind :)

  • @niluferozyoruk7718
    @niluferozyoruk7718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree that having to "decide" which category an information falls when we have information which relate to multiple disciplines is a pain which suffocates the productivity. Thank you for this video. 😊

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My pleasure!

  • @nickjstevens
    @nickjstevens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve watched this twice now - really, really helpful video.

  • @eriksalholm
    @eriksalholm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! Incredibly helpful video. This has really helped me organize my vault.

  • @AbhijeetWankhade
    @AbhijeetWankhade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was really interesting! As someone who is new to Zettelkasten, I would love to see your flow of how you capture something and then put it in your system.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i have several livestreams that are still public and several that are unlisted for patreon patrons only where i do just that :)

  • @snowtrooper005
    @snowtrooper005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was enlightening for me. I'm a Masters student who recently started using Obsidian and I'm trying to implement Zettelkasten in preparation for my dissertation, but I was really struggling in how to structure it in such a way that I do not impose a top-down taxonomy, while also not losing track of notes.
    This links as tags system as well as the MOC trees that dynamically build over time was really the missing link for me. I'm definitely going to implement my own version of this. Thanks for your great videos!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad they helped you!

  • @davidjnevin
    @davidjnevin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, you've made me rethink my current structure and it's potential future pitfalls. 🐄

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful! 🐄️

  • @benjaminsaubolle-camacho9558
    @benjaminsaubolle-camacho9558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bryan, as a Roam refugee migrating into Obsidian (with virtually zero knowledge of Markdown & CSS), your videos have been TREMENDOUSLY helpful to establish an academic workflow as I prepare for doctoral studies. Many thanks many times over 🤘

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thank you! I'm glad they've been so helpful1 :D

  • @konhi-xz5zv
    @konhi-xz5zv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i find this idea so cool!! i instantly implemented this into my vault 💕

  • @fabiansanhueza278
    @fabiansanhueza278 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing us this part of your workflow. Sending hugs from Chile!

  • @irgam81
    @irgam81 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gonna start using Obsidian in the next future, so I'm watching videos here and there to gather different POVs. I've seen Nick Milo's videos and they were pretty good and clear, but this approach is life-changing. Thanks!!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you enjoyed it!

  • @matchanista2762
    @matchanista2762 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is EXACTLY what I needed! Love the way you incorporated a way to file notes that includes spaced repetition, which is going to be SUPER helpful with my programming classes 🫠. And I’m learning I’m not a huge fan of keeping nested folders organized, loved this approach!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you found it helpful!

  • @alanduval4255
    @alanduval4255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I'll need to watch this at least two more times to catch everything.
    I might've got distracted by the local graph thing which I hadn't realised was a thing... super useful.

  • @demiplume
    @demiplume ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind blown!
    I was just looking how people linked and back linked things together I never knew tags were that powerful to organize.
    That now makes me consider using my vault as my daily todo list.

  • @mtzfox
    @mtzfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's very interesting to Bryan's process for creating these nodes. I was drawn to Obsidian because of how it used the Graph view, but several months in my graph view makes very little sense, and I have hundreds of tags that I'm not using in very useful way, so I'm very inspired to take up this method.
    A big problem I face now is how I would actually go about converting all of my note tags to links quickly and avoiding errors. I've previously done this manually for other things (like adding metadata) and it's taken a very long time.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in that case if you were changing a swathe of #psychology tags for books and wanted something like [[psychology]] then i would probably just used the `sed` command like utility to do a bulk replace. you could also do with by opening your vault in something like VSCode and doing a global text replacement

  • @abdulla6741
    @abdulla6741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow, really a useful way of using the graph. Thanks Bryan,

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like it!

  • @jrdrigs
    @jrdrigs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these videos! I'ven been using your channel to polish my PKM system on Obsidian.

  • @fernandafrio8717
    @fernandafrio8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bryan is my Obsidian guru.

  • @carlossoriano4010
    @carlossoriano4010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always Bryan! 🙏

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @v0id_d3m0n
    @v0id_d3m0n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was really interesting! Thanks for sharing your method of working. I have been so trapped in nested folders... I think this might be just the thing I need

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad to help!

  • @chuckblaine8113
    @chuckblaine8113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has seriously leveled-up and changed my vault paradigm!

  • @keikejones5536
    @keikejones5536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, I’m starting using obsidian, most probably I’ll use this approach, it’s great!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @paperlessmovement
    @paperlessmovement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this approach. Very interesting. Thanks!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im glad you enjoyed the video! thank you for being here! :)

  • @RedstoneNinja99
    @RedstoneNinja99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bit when you filtered out the top level tags to create the tiny graph that represents the whole graph blew my mind

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the high level network view too :)

  • @JimParrillo
    @JimParrillo ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooh! I feel so smart - I just started in Obsidian and came to this same strategy. Since I like a bit of hierarchy, I end up having a folder I call 'Concepts & Ideas' and will make a note about some concept that I'm working on, and then I'll backlink from source notes.

  • @chrisrockscode1202
    @chrisrockscode1202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m starting my C++ classes today, I like your connections, trying to implement one similar that will work for me. Thanks for the content will probably watch more videos

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best of luck! Have you seen my C++ Notes?

  • @lukedarmanin3382
    @lukedarmanin3382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is super insightful. Thank you!

  • @netflixandburn
    @netflixandburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sort of what I was doing but not anywhere near as well. This was very helpful.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad it's helped :)

  • @walterwong6970
    @walterwong6970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You have the best zettelkasten interpretation

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well thank you 😅️

  • @Joeducci8
    @Joeducci8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tied it up nicely at the end, well done.

  • @hugocast
    @hugocast ปีที่แล้ว

    14:30 I think having a handful of "real tags" like Moc/Evergreen/Work in Progress/Published/Etc it's a great alternative to folders. Now I get it. Thanks for the great content.

  • @tavaroevanis8744
    @tavaroevanis8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT tip using links as tags! Definitely going to implement this.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you like it!

  • @stephenpaul7499
    @stephenpaul7499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, this is very helpful to me! I was initially confused by MOCs because they seemed to go against the grain of how Obsidian should be used but now, this serendipitous discovery of MOCs makes a lot more sense.
    Also (and this is unrelated) I think hierarchies (such as folder structures) are generally flawed which is why inheritance is so frowned upon in Object Oriented Programming.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      i still think that MOC's are the way to go, i use folders to some degree but they are few and far between and not really for my actual ZK at all

  • @ct8698
    @ct8698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at your graph :) You've created a new Solar System. Love it. Great content.

  • @TheNurseArtist
    @TheNurseArtist ปีที่แล้ว

    the answer to every thing I walked away from Obsidian for. Here's to a creative return, thank you.

  • @1minchess123
    @1minchess123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks that helps,
    I was coming from notion , and was in delimma of how get some form of top down hierarchy.

  • @Solstice42
    @Solstice42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good approach - I use TAGs for categories and status - and now trying to use links more as topics and subjects - MOC is good term/approach

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      check out my 4hr video too on this, lots of content in that one :)

  • @LinkEX
    @LinkEX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:40 Nick Milo definitely popularized the term _MoC_ in the Obsidian Community.
    However, he said that he took the term from a book called "How to Make a Complete Map of Every Thought You Think" by Lion Kimbro.
    I've skimmed over it; it's a chaotic read with lots of interesting ideas.

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here's an online read of the book:
      users.speakeasy.net/~lion/nb/html/doc001.html

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      after i filmed this video like 5 weeks ago i did see him post/talk about that, too late to edit that now lol but thanks for the link! I'll check that out

    • @DrDanAllosso
      @DrDanAllosso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LinkEX Thanks for posting! I'll check this out!

    • @hieu-zf6qq
      @hieu-zf6qq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's also talked about in "how to take smart notes" by ahrens

    • @DrDanAllosso
      @DrDanAllosso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hieu-zf6qq Yes, I've read that once; planning on going back through it again in the near future and extracting permanent notes.

  • @CristinaDias7
    @CristinaDias7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this video pinned and i have been watching it several times 🤣every day! But finally I think I managed to organize my mocs with backlinks. I am studying art theory and this is quite overwhelming at times. I really like your approach to Obsidian: thanks a lot from Lisbon!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful! :D

  • @manueldariocardonaquiceno9286
    @manueldariocardonaquiceno9286 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente video. Es muy útil conocer perspectivas de trabajo con la aplicación.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @timbushell8640
    @timbushell8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good vid too, thanks.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mrkuramoto
    @mrkuramoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a user o Roam Research, but every day I open Obsidian to make some tests to see how to program works and follow all the updates and improvements.
    I'm in a given stage that I feel lost among all the content I have in Roam Research.
    I believe the way to manage all the information I have inside would be to print only the connections among topics - links and tags removing documents with data. For this purpose, they only polluted the graph.
    Roam doesn't offer this feature - it allows only to remove log days (BTW, this feature would be beneficial in Obsidian because if I move all the log days to another folder to disregard them using filters, all the content are ignored)
    Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see a way to meet my needs.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found the video helpful! :)

  • @linezgames3893
    @linezgames3893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:00 going back and forward then going to the graph and unchecking the tags/attachments. Holy shiiitt that was insane
    also this isnt complex at all, its actually common sense.
    the issue for me would be how to set it up and not OVERDO it or underdo it, perhaps even have enough info to even add to it.
    What Im thinking I could do only is keep it as my personal brain instead.
    Was planning for game development but I feel this is way more powerful to only do one thing.
    even then maybe thats the route to take to practice? idk ill think about it.
    LOVE it 100%, thank you so much in showing the potential of creating a library within Obsidian...

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad your enjoyed it :)

  • @kemaila
    @kemaila 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    70% practical demo and 30% philosophy that is really helping me to understand the difference between the zettelkasten method and digital knowledge management system vs nested file organization which is where I’ve lived my whole life and my brain and computer are a mess it’s as if I have no knowledge. Anyway, thank you for this, it has been immensely helpful for this noob. I think I’ll try your structure. Deep breath…let gooo of the folders…

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the folders paradigm is the hardest change to move away from but once i did there's a lot of new flexibility to discover and explore, good luck on your journey! :)

  • @miguelstevens3042
    @miguelstevens3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thank you, do you have an introduction video or work-along type of video to setup a solid obsidian workflow from scratch?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not yet! but i'm cooking up something in that general area of things :)

  • @antintin880
    @antintin880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this concept is particularly interesting because MOCs and tags are essentially the same thing. Im new to PKM and was considering using hierarchical tags as a more flexible replacement to folders, but obviously each level of tag should also have an MOC. Putting them together, then, reduces friction and prevents redundancy. I do wish there was a way to separate normal links and links that you use as tags, though, e.g. being able to link a normal tag to a primary MOC note

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      the way that i use the links as tags, them being one in the same is actually the intention

  • @williamwrenner
    @williamwrenner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This system is so cool and feels like a great long-term investment. It terrifies me to not use folders but I think it's time to take the plunge.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      at 3+ years it has been a long term investment for me haha

  • @yamen1150
    @yamen1150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this informative content!
    Amazing dataview you have there Bryan :) whose apple is it? Adam's, Newton's, or Jobs's?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you enjoyed it!

  • @hooiyan6040
    @hooiyan6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bryan, thank you for sharing all the knowledge around Obsidian, they are very helpful! I am in the process of moving my notes from Notion to Obsidian...
    I just went to the obsidian publish site and read the ADHD article that you shared in this video, and I noticed that there's no status with the evergreen emoji tag now.
    So I wonder if you have removed it or it's just not shown on the publish site?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the tags are in the YAML header and those are not shown on the publish site :) that's all, i should request that they be shown/accessible....

  • @slimepsychic
    @slimepsychic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been about a year since I started using Obsidian and I wasn't sold on this approach, but now I can see the benefits. I like using tags generally, but I dislike how Graph View doesn't show *only* tags, and I dislike how tags link to a search term. Status tags and that sort of thing ftw

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of us, one of us, one of us

  • @timbushell8640
    @timbushell8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🐄 interesting, many thanks

  • @glennjohnson4063
    @glennjohnson4063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video on using tags and building up knowledge. Can you share your method for assigning the emoji tags to notes? Noticed you had a popup dropdown menu of your tags to select from. Is this a javascript dropdown menu that you select items based on each item having a hotkey?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i use an alfred workflow call emoji taco (macOS only app) on windows you can use META+. o open an emoji window and there's also an emoji plugin for obsidian as well

  • @UnholyRenton
    @UnholyRenton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is brilliant!
    Could you expand on what is your "ideas" MOC?
    My understanding is that you use your tags as a hierarchy system in defining the maturity of the note. Going from seedling to evergreen is clear, from tag to MOC as well. But how do you go from evergreen to tag?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      evergreen to tag? i think you're confusing something in my system

  • @jozark5243
    @jozark5243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey bryan, nice content - keep going!
    13:44 Why do you have to decide if you want to link learning to PKM or Interests ? What would be the drawback if you link it to both MOCs? It may destroys the look your "clean " ordered meta map. But imo the flexibility to don't decide whether it is more matching to MOC A or MOC B is one of the powers of MOCs.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i actually do link the MOCs to more than just it's parent now actually, had that epiphany myself recently :) just posted an image of it to the discord server a few minutes ago actually
      discord.com/channels/686053708261228577/709712341066842113/801184855391076353

  • @exitthecircle
    @exitthecircle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing! What are the physics settings on your graph that lets these clusters emerge? My maps are still fairly uniformly messy, perhaps that's because I don't have large enough of node/network hubs yet?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      cant share images here, but if you ask on the FAQ repo i can drop an image :) github.com/BryanJenksCommunity/FAQ/discussions

  • @susanpearson-creativefibro
    @susanpearson-creativefibro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve just watched this one for a second time and it was just the right time to see it, I think I am going to alter my tags and links to this method as I now have, alongside literature notes, notes about JavaScript and notes tracking TV series and even things to do with World of Warcraft. You nailed it on head a second brain is far more than Zettelkasten.

  • @admiralhyperspace0015
    @admiralhyperspace0015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, you are awesome.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well thank you :)

  • @NicoOud
    @NicoOud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bryan, love your video's about Obsidian! What status tags do you use? I couldn't find a list of all of them. Or are they one of you video's? Keep up the good work 💪

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i keep my taxonomy note on my public brain :) publish.obsidian.md/bryan-jenks/Status+Tags

    • @andreaparado38
      @andreaparado38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks the link is giving a 404 error. Is there a new link?

  • @jdcv17
    @jdcv17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the theme you're using. Somehow reminds me of VS Code's Kimbie Dark. Is that Obsidian gruvbox? Anyways, I think I'll have to trim down on my tags because I use a lot. 😆

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep! But with a lot of custom additions :)

    • @jdcv17
      @jdcv17 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Noticed that. Would be nice to see how you customized it to your liking. I might try gruvbox later on. I'm currently using Shiba Inu.

  • @mr22b56
    @mr22b56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the video. What is the color scheme it’s so good 🙂?

  • @MichaelStrong0112
    @MichaelStrong0112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the support! :)

  • @worm3592
    @worm3592 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello there! thx for the explanation, really concise video.
    I noticed that you have Status/Tags/Links/References at the end of a note.
    You've covered status and tags, and I also saw that you use Links to link notes to MOC and MOCs between each other.
    Maybe I've lost it somewhere in the video, but could you comment on what is a "Reference" here in your notation, and how it differs from a "Link"?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      reference and link are meant to be the same thing in this context

  • @dr.braddavis1710
    @dr.braddavis1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video- How do you manage Obsidian publish if you don't have a specific folder for notes you publish do you just publish your entire vault? Or do you go file by file when you update?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      most of my vault is public, there are very few notes i dont push, so at the moment im not struggle with it, but in the long term there will need to be some developments for publish to more easily manage notes on publish

  • @quixoticfallcy
    @quixoticfallcy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is pretty cool. what is the plugin you use to color your tags like that? and how do you get the emojis into the tags? thanks!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are a variety of ways to insert emoji's, obsidian itself now has a plugin to do it, but i use alfred on mac to do it. as for coloring tags its done with CSS :)

  • @betagroobox
    @betagroobox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! What I struggle to understand from my usage but also watching your video is: how do you separate actual facts (a business work like this etc) from your own things/idea/projects (my business projects are these etc)? On your system they would be both linked to "business" moc page. Given you also don't use tags for this separation how do you manage this important distinction?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i do use tags though, my emoji tags.
      if its concrete facts and not my own ideas then they dont get a tag within the zettelkasten workflow. For thing that are part of the zettelkasten it goes from 🌱️ --> 🌿️ --> 🌞️ --> 🌲️

  • @carriolan1
    @carriolan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the video - Thanks. Was wondering whether you had a list of your 9 tags with their definitions please.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it, in my latest video i believe i show the taxonomy of my tags which i keep in a note. the note is also listed here on my publish: publish.obsidian.md/bryan-jenks/Status+Tags

    • @carriolan1
      @carriolan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Perfect! Just what I was looking for thanks

  • @StevenKaeser
    @StevenKaeser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bryan, thx for your efforts! Great value in your videos. Short Question:
    I don't have the little Icon next to "New Note" / "New Folder" / "Change Sort Order" to see my Tags. How do I get that functionallity?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should, never heard of that happening... need images: github.com/BryanJenksCommunity/FAQ/discussions

    • @StevenKaeser
      @StevenKaeser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Hi Bryan I found a solution.
      I had to turn off Safe mode and was then able to move the Tag Icon from the top left menu next to the starred and new folder menu on the top right.

  • @filippoarlenghi6247
    @filippoarlenghi6247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok This is pro level see you next

  • @Sorobai
    @Sorobai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid. Two questions: how to add icons to tags and how to put colour into the graph view? Thank you.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      an emoji insertion tool, on windows its the Win+. key combo. im on macOS so im using Alfred. Linux there's options like Dmenu and xclip. Graph view colors are done through CSS

  • @MarioDanielCarugno
    @MarioDanielCarugno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great great video, thank you Bryan.
    I have to things to point out, if you let me.
    First, I've noticed your notes about C++, all of them starts with 'C++ ...' in their titiles.
    Don't you feel a little friction in having to be redundant like that ?
    Wouldn't be nice to have a 'C++' folder for that ?
    I mean not a structure of nested folders, but just one for each big topic, so you can avoid redundancy in note titles.
    Besides, each of these folders would have a 'moc' note which will relate all the notes in that folder.
    Sounds that like a good strategy for you ?
    Second, is there a really clear reason to have both 'tag' and 'moc' tags ?
    In my mind they seem to have the same purpose (relate or categorize notes), the only difference is having or not links to notes pointing to them.
    I mean, for example why in the graph view would I show only 'moc' and no 'tag' notes (or viceversa) ?
    I really appreciate your work and help on such interesting topics, thank you !!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      old video, workflow has had many changes since this video

  • @andreaparado38
    @andreaparado38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is super helpful! Question: on 12:20 - how are you searing for the tags with emojis? I noticed you wrote map.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its just my way of inserting emojis with the alfred app on mac. there are many ways to insert emojis :)

    • @andreaparado38
      @andreaparado38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Alfred! I'm not using Alfred yet but I guess I am now! It's more effective than having to search in Character Viewer. thank you!

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreaparado38 if you're on mac alfred is essential. its absolutely amazing. it's like the only paid mac app i use it's SOOOO good

  • @hugocast
    @hugocast ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for letting us take a peek at your 2nd Brain 🙏🏼

  • @gingeas
    @gingeas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What's really cool about this system is that you can use `aliases` to mask a tag's "note" under several different names using YAML frontmatter:
    ---
    aliases: ["cuisine", "sustenance"]
    ---
    # Food
    Now if you try to tag [[cuisine]] instead of [[food]], it'll catch it.
    Now, of course, tags are still imperfect, but you can help alleviate the fragmented "tag hell" with aliases.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there are also nested tags as well :)

  • @anonymousjd1807
    @anonymousjd1807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For those of you who don’t get the point of this video, come back to it after making about 30 notes using your own link and tag system. It makes so much sense.

  • @fabianschneider7144
    @fabianschneider7144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One issue I have with the Moc approach is that it leads to nodes that don't need to be articles. For example, I do link the name of my partner in my diaries regularly. This has led to an article the only purpose of which is managing those references. There's no information I would want to put in there that I don't have readily available unless I suffer general amnesia. In other words: the only purpose of that node is to act as a tag. Now, in my graph view, It still stands out as a huge note that seems to scream "create an article here" at me, even though I don't want to because I'm not going to write a dossier about my partner just because I want to fill in a note file in Obsidian.
    The only solution here seems to be to actually work with tags - or is there another way to go about this?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  ปีที่แล้ว

      tags yes, or also just graph filters

  • @locutora9721
    @locutora9721 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @kalacs32
    @kalacs32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your torq.

  • @creative-jammers
    @creative-jammers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One quick question. If you have new [[ tags ]] in the future, how do you upgrade your previous notes? Do you need to go back and add those tags? Just curious

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i dont expend the effort to hunt down things like that, i may hop around randomly through my vault and update things when i see they need it but the name of the game is not perfection

    • @creative-jammers
      @creative-jammers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryanJenks Thanks you for helping me clarify my thoughts! That's a great point! I was so trapped by the structural thinking way...

  • @mvargast
    @mvargast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I need to create a hierarchy in order to have these MOCs? This sounds good if you have it all clear since the beginning of your notes, but how could you set it up once your full notes already exist or are too evolved?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hierarchy and prior planning not needed. Thats why this is the organic antithesis to nested folder hierarchies. you plan nothing, and the structure develops over time.

  • @mvargast
    @mvargast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bryan, this is a question that I have on the subject (2nd day using Obsidian) let's say I have a core note named FOODS, and then I have burgers, pizza, saldad etc etc as notes. I'd like to create a node in between called HEALTHY FOOD which groups all of the healthy ones. What would be the best way to achieve this? How could I differentiate it from a regular note in my graph, so that it has a different color (like the ones in your graph).

    • @mvargast
      @mvargast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also...is there a way to achieve it while writing a new note? Something like: Here is my new note on foods, these are the healthy ones, list them..and then for these divisions to be made in the graph.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      with the 0.11.2 insiders release coming soon you can easily style graph nodes with queries. so that may be of use to you at that point

  • @vladoliinyk5292
    @vladoliinyk5292 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I ask - what is the practical outcome of doing all of this categorisations, linking, seeing how your MOCs are connected, having 10s of statues etc?
    Is there actually anything we can get from it, except a geeky archive of notes?
    I'm not arguing, just curios because I tried to do all of this, and figured out that I keep asking myself a question "waht is the point of me spending time on this?", and couldn't find any practical answer.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are many practical reasons, many of which I’ve mentioned in several videos. Search-ability, a writing aid with reference sources and linked ideas, keeping’s tabs on a large body of work and research, the list goes on

  • @theostalproject
    @theostalproject 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bryan, I was wondering how you tag and manage notes on topics such as Javascript or other types of notes that have a set way of doing things and are not really your own ideas if that makes sense. Do you consider these evergreen notes? How do you organise these in Obsidian?

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      im actually in the midst of porting all my tech/programming notes to Logseq, the mental model of logseq fits for those kinds of notes better in my mind

    • @theostalproject
      @theostalproject 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BryanJenks would love to see a video on how you manage that, Obsidian is not feeling quite right for these type of "Rote learn / these are not my original ideas / here is the info for my future reference" type notes, if that makes sense.

    • @BryanJenks
      @BryanJenks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theostalproject yup, same. Video already planned and likely the very next posing on this channel :)