'Foreign influence' law obstacle to Georgia joining the EU, says official | DW News
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- Tens of thousands of people have returned to the streets of the Georgian capital, to protest against a controversial 'foreign agents' law.
Demonstrators blocked streets in Tblisi, a day after parliament approved a second reading of the bill. It requires organizations receiving more than 20% of funding from abroad to register as agents of foreign influence. Opponents say it's similar to a law used in Russia to silence government critics. The UN's human rights chief has urged Georgian lawmakers to withdraw the legislation.
DW correspondent Maria Katamadze in Tbilisi described the scene in the Georgian capital.
00:00 Georgians rally against 'foreign influence' bill
00:41 DW correspondent Maria Katamadze in Tbilisi
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I’d like this founder of Georgia’s ruling party arrested for being a foreign agent.
And a well-funded one, too.
Why shouldn't they protect their country from foreign interference? The US and some EU nations have the same laws.
@@fidodid5721 Oh look, a Russian agent.
@@Awibrahor, and you're ?
@@fidodid5721 I believe you'll find that Georgians on _all sides_ of this dispute believe they are protecting their country from foreign interference; so the point you are making doesn't actually get you very far. The dispute is rather about _which_ potential foreign interference presents the greatest threat, and is least aligned, to the (somewhat diverse) wishes of individual Georgians.
A majority of the Georgian people wants Georgia to be a part of EU. This law will make this very difficult, so of course people protesting... Again...
No, its not the majority ,it's just the brainwashed youth who want to join EU
More countries means more mouths to feed. Europe can't sustain that, lol.
Georgia is a democracy and the people in parliament are the representative of the people. A mob should not decide for the general population who have nothing to do with politics and power struggle.
@@Perun944 Dumbest comment of the day. Can you yourself even take what you just wrote seriously?
@@davidwright5094 Not an argument.
US is not a foreign influence to EU....😂😂😂
Notice that there is no counter protest going on. Really goes to show that this law has nothing to do with Georgia's national interests.
It's not about becoming an EU member or not, it's about remaining an independent country or ending up under Putin's control!
Or ending it under a EU that became even more corrupt than those states they themselves deemend corrupt.
Geeorgia would be wise to not choose a side - or both sides.
thinking of israel as foreign agent in usa 😅
Hypocrisy by the EU - The USA and the EU countries have similar laws. It is in the best interest of Georgia to know which foreign countries (if any) are influencing the NGOs. Why are those NGO against, unless they have something to hide ?
exactly, as a Georgian, I see how opposition side use people to brainwash and put them in a place where they are manipulated
Because many among the greater mass of ordinary Georgians _don't much trust their current or future governments_ to use the information gathered under the proposed law in a manner meeting the approval of those citizens.
According to Georgian MP Nikoloz Samkharadze, Georgia has 20 000 NGOs, that's an NGO for every 148 citizens. 90% of the NGOs receive their funding from foreign entities. To put it into perspective, Georgia has 2000 schools that means they have 10× more NGOs than they have schools. They need such a law so these NGOs can be known who's funding them and what motive they might have. The reason certain people are against this law is because it will expose that a lot of these NGOs are funded by one country which is very suspicious to say the least.
Yes, they protest against against transparency which is quite absurd. You'd think they would like to know who funds these NGO's....
US CIA and NED
"Russian law" but copied from American law. 🤦♂️
Of course Ruzzian, every time I see a comment like it, it is always Russian, guess why?
@@Marimachavariani Why? I don't know, explain it to me. And I'm not Russian. And you know that it is copy of american law. And I thought better of Georgia and Georgian people before but recently you're building your identity as "anti Russian state" not Georgian state with its own rich history and tradition. The world recognize you now only as: "oh, a country that hates Russia - good"...
@@bojanm986 This law is not American, it is exact copy of Russian law, word by word, every single letter, in American and EU law there are mentioned the countries, which are threatening, like Iran and others. In this law, it doesn't matter you get funds from Iran, USA, Japan or EU, you become agent by all means. After that government has right to limit your work or ban your work totally, just because they have doubts. That is what is happening in Russia right now. Even if you post something on the internet that government does not like, they have right to punish you, by fine or even put you in jail. There will be no space for free speech and free media.
Also, of course we hate Russia, 20% of our country is occupied by Russia, So many people died in the wars with them, we have got nothing good from Russia, how can we like it? Would you like somebody who killed your brother, your father and took 20% of your territories?
Even if we are remembered as "a country that hates Russia" it is still waaay better, then "the country that belongs to Russia."
Google Georgian history if you don't like my explanation, but don't read Russian literature, please.
@@Marimachavariani this law makes all organization and people that receive more than 20% from abroad to register as foreign agent. Wouldn't you like to know how many of them are funded by Russia? Or the problem is that we will find out the number of organizations funded by the USA and EU? My country doesn't have this law but I would very much like it to have.
By 20% you mean Abkhazia and Ossetia? They wanted independence, they are not part of Russia what's the problem? And if you have a problem you need to blame your "allies" - NATO and EU. They made the precedent that the region of a sovereign country can proclaim independence if they want to. In February 2008 Kosovo proclaim independence from Serbia with full support of your allies, moreover they bombed Serbia so Kosovo can get independence. The whole world said then that it is dangerous precedent and that regions around the world can use it for their own cause aaaaand 6 months later your regions decided to do the same. Question is: why Kosovo has the right to fo it and Abkhazia, Ossetia, Crimea, Donbass don't have the same right?
@@Marimachavarianiexplain to me why foreign money is required in order to have a democracy??😅
is Georgia a democraric country, or is it a Foreign owned company masquerading as a country?😅😅
Didn't Czechs just ban some website, blaming some Russian funding or something? It was just the other day.
Yes Ivan indeed. We have banned a website from a dictatorship country. What s ur prob?
Im sure there are EU countries with a law similar to that, so why would it make it harder for them to join the EU
You know nothing but still like to slander.
@@DeepJiesel so u are saying that there isn't a Country in the E.U that has a similar law?
@@cwengagilimane2281 I am not aware of one.
@@DeepJiesel We do here in Denmark. The US has similar laws. Don't you find it odd how some people protest against transparency in Georgia?
@@Memovox Faktisk kan jeg forstå dansk. Kan du peger på den loven du mener? Jeg vil meget gerne læse op hvad siges i loven. Tak skal du have.
Well the US couldn't join the EU either since it already has that law:
In 1938, the Foreign Agents Registration Act (22 U.S.C.
§§611-621; FARA) was enacted to require individuals
doing political or advocacy work on behalf of foreign
entities in the United States to register with the Department
of Justice (DOJ) and to disclose their relationship,
activities, receipts, and disbursements in support of their
activities. FARA does not prohibit any specific activities;
rather it seeks to require registration and disclosure of them.
we hear you very clear Ivan 😅
@@forceforceforce You are confused. Ivan means that God is gracious. While Michael asks the question - Who is like the Lord? But at least you did recognize both as Biblical names.
@@michaelwilson9921explain to me why foreign money is required in order to have a democracy??😅
is Georgia a democratic country or is it a Foreign-owned Company masquerading as a country?😅😅
How is this a Russian law. The law is the exact copy of a law the United States has that all people and NGOs getting money from foreign countries and NGOs must report as foreign agents.
This law is a clear example of Georgia trying to establish its sovereignty and independence.
As if you have read any of these laws. Georgian law is a copy of russian law. And the context in Georgia and the EU, US warning clearly shows what kind of law is that.
It's no copy of the US law at all. Georgian Dream isn't helping the country establish sovereignty and independence at all. The ruling party is only helping Russian terrorists infiltrate Georgia/Sakartvelo very quietly and it's time for GD to leave or at least scale down its presence in parliament by 50% thus making way for other parties to fill in.
@@sellenis3 BS
@@Zockopa Russian troll or GD troll
@@sellenis3 Projection.
So the EU threatens a sovereign country with no entry if law is passed?
There are More countries to speak about them. Think about Asia and North Africa
we are in europe, go away
Why did the host repeat the same question ? I have notice he is doing the same in other interviews with other guests recently. It is a kind of annoying.
Ha when will these countries realize, they are buffer zones between EU and Russia, they'll never be full fledged members😂
I even agree with Georgia, as non-governmental organizations are often financed by the EU. some, such as the Red Cross and Caritas, are good; others, such as Amnesty International or the Open Society Foundation, are questionable and politically motivated. most politically motivated should not be funded by a country or a federation like the EU!
Local media outlets funded by foreign organizations should not happen to any country that wants to preserve its independence and sovereignty.
I guess the EU is democratic in allowing elected representatives to perform their duties but the EU is instigating unrest in Georgia.
In Georgia they arrested the owner of the biggest opposition tv station owner and the government tried their best to bankrupt them, almost forbidding advertising on the channel, now that they are getting some financial support from abroad is somehow wrong according to you
The issue is that these kinds of laws have been used for stigmatizing NGOs which are crucial for democratic development of the small Eastern European countries such as Georgia.
@@vakho_shanshaSome western countries actually have the same laws
@@antony6799 in western countries the same laws don't get abused. They have it because they can. In a more authoritarian regime where democracy is fragile the same law can be used to suppress civil society which are usually sponsored by the western democratic nations.
Georgia's Ukraine moment do they keep going possibly war with Russia or stop and accept Russian policy
Это обязанность вступать в ЕС? А сами не могут развивать свою страну? Россия здесь не причём.
Thank you for the video! Спасибо за видео! Future of Armenia, Moldova and Georgia is in EU and NATO!
100%!!!
Will never happen
Reminds me of when former Ukrainian authorities attempted to move closer to Russia and away from EU.
Georgia is still under Russian occupation.
Joining to the EU seems became only political issue and by law you will never good enough for joining. Poland, Hungary, Baltic states and other had issues with freedom and democracy, but it was OK politically at that moment. Now EU is very cautious about expanding, they scare to have another disloyal or economically weak state I think, so only making empty promices.
As Ukranian I see direct references with my country in 2014. Is Ukraine in its international recognized borders and EU member? Maybe rich and happy state?
I wish Georgia wisdom not to get into geopolitical trap between NATO and Russia like it was with my much bigger state and stay neutral country who benefits from all blocks.
As a Georgian I can tell you that these demonstrations are not for getting ourselves into EU but staying away from Russia which we have a tradition for! Georgia is not Poland, Hungary and Baltic states. Slava Ukraini!
To be able to be a neutral country one should be the richest and most armed and of course with no history of being abused for centuries. Let us be clear.. when it comes to choice we better die than choose a Butcher!! At least we die with honor!
I sense you are peddling a Russian narrative.
There is no between it is ruzzia or EU. We chose EU already. I wish all ruZZia's lovers to go and live in it
@@Name-pb7gf Coming from a country with very low corruption (Denmark), I find it absurd how a certain segment in Georgia protests against transparency.
If you want help me do fast because here in Finland is weekend thanks
A Olygarch with ties to Putin who has not been elected and has no formal goverment position pases a law deciding the future for all current and future Georgians... I mean If that dosnt motivate all Georgians to protest and get rid of the law and this goverment I dont know what will.
Btw half of Germany belongs to ussr so it is pure historically russian land
No to Russia Law 👎👎
Yes to EU and freedom more than Russia is no life and suffering 👎
BS
Russia should be worried by the passage of this bill as it disallows foreign interference in georgian affairs...but surprisingly russia supports the bill and instead it's the EU that's against it .....
The Georgian leader is pro-Russian. Draw the obvious conclusions.
Russia...popular everywhere.....LOL
They want to join NATO. So wanted Ukraine
♥️🤍
If we can't bride you, you can't join, we need this bill everywhere
Funny thing, that this is the same law, that US and EU live with.
Except for the fact that us and eu laws were implemented to oppose Russian agents and this law does just the opposite.
@@futurenika it works for both sides.
this is transparently just an excuse to shake up the situation.
no just no
"Вы не понимаете, это другое" (с). А по моему это простое европейское/американское лицемерие.
No, it isn't
We'll probably lose Georgia to the Russians. Which is sad. That country had so much potential. Now we need to concentrate on Ukraine first and foremost.
Do you even know where Georgia is on the map, you’re our sad one🤣🤣🤣
You make it sound like they're going to die. You can still travel to Georgia
Has the mistery of Mikheil Saakashvili been resolved? How does a former president of Georgia pop up as a governor of Odesa?
He was governor between May 2015 and November 2016 just over a year. That's over 7 years ago.
😅😅 the western aka CIA values 😅😅
Problem with small countries is that they have options of only being someone toy. Russia or europe. People dont see option being independent
'It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.' The words from 1320 in the Declaration of Arbroath seem as applicable today as they were then. Slava Gerorgia and her supporters!
Georgia is Russia,save Georgia from West
It is a RUSSIAN LAW
Protests for a right to become the 2nd front against Russia.
Belarus's or Moldova's examples aren't exactly better
@@henriikkak2091 why not? People there don't die in thousands on a daily basis
@@user-tq3vb7vw6b They're dying for freedom. You wouldn't understand it
@@henriikkak2091 I'm Ukrainian, half of family live in Kiev, half in Moscow region in Russia. I know perfectly well what happens with freedom after such protests overthrough the state and the country turns into a 'special purpose vehicle', I mean a wardog against Russia. Human rights cease to exist, even basic things like you can be stopped on a street by police and your mobile phone will be checked for any calls / messages to your Russian family. If any found, you have hard time. On contrast, in Russia such things never happen, you are free to do whatever you want, you can travel (unlike in Ukraine) abroad to any country, you can work abroad etc. People in Russia are totally free. But probably you wouldn't believe or understand it.
@@henriikkak2091explain to me why foreign money is required in order to have a democracy??😅
is Georgia a democratic country or is it a Foreign-owned Company masquerading as a country?😅😅
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Double standards from Georgia 🇬🇪
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Russia is a big petroleum exporter but it CANNOT manufacture anything involving human intelligence.