Finally someone said it . Their loss wasn't solely on Rudy it was more so on the guards and wings who couldn't stop a snail from blowing past them. And Quinn Snyder for not make the correct adjustments.
if there is something to blame rudy for is his offense..clippers were playing small ball and he cant post up..they stop jazz pick and roll and rudy lost his offense...his defense is good just bad rotation for the team..
@@kanarip8798 yeah exactly, plus it’s easy to hate on Rudy because of the whole covid thing, but that’s how you can tell they didn’t watch the games lmao
yeah just from watching, personally, my first thought was the wings and guards looked lost on rotation. I think that's why rudy kept hesitating towards the paint because he was expecting someone to rotate to the corner and it just didn't happen
Other than Gobert, the rest of the Jazz are not good defenders--they're short, slow, and not athletic, which means Gobert has to try to guard multiple players and stay close to the paint.
@@emileconstance5851 Donovan is the only fast guard and he can block shots on other guards but at 6,1 that's all he can kinda do gobert is the slowest on the floor and is forced to a mismatch and with mann now a threat and the clippers having decent defenders and player all around gobert was fucked. Tbh that man got abused by the clips and the coach ain't give a fuck
@@emileconstance5851 yeah it's crazy people's hate in geberts defence when you look at jazz's team and see a couple decent defenders but no one truly elite besides gobert and yet that had such a good defensive rating. There issue is a lack of 3 and d player who actually helps gobert maybe a bridges style player would help someone who can defend the perimeter but also is good at help defence a player who is also big eko to play sg or sf would be necessary as you really want someone with size and length to help incase someone beats conley on the perimeter
Maybe if Gobert had a SINGLE post move to punish small ball he could offset the horrible perimeter defense by his team. I've never seen such a dainty and ineffectual center in the paint outside a PnR.
@@mrsky67 So you took 1 game to tell me he was good offensively during his whole career? Nah Gobert also had some big offensive games but he ain't a good offensive player just like Mutombo or Wallace and that's all
Thanks for the post, many people were ragging on Gobert when others were not checking their assignments. A fun follow-up video would be, how you would address against these 5 out spread offense if you were quin synder
@@clipseo drop coverage isn't the issue heck both teams in the finals played drop coverage it's when you only have 1 good defender in gobert and maybe conley if you count him but he is old and out of his prime. Bucks have the best perimeter defender in the league, a good help defender in gian, and I guess some other great defensive role players. Heck the suns run more drop coverage that Bucks from memory shame that there was so many injuries on both sides up to that point but man do I want to rewatch that with everyone being fully healthy I miss watching giannis try and bully Ayton only for ayton to not move
Yeah like take a look at history and DPOYs and elite defenders also had good to great to elite defensive teammates. Ben Wallace? Tayshaun and Billups. Rodman? Dumars and Zeke. MJ? Scottie, Horace and Rodman. Draymond? KD, Klay, Iggy. Now what about Rudy?... yeah exactly!
Not ben simmons or draymond green though, they have very little weaknesses on defense. All their weaknesses is on the orher side Gobert had a hole on defense and a bigger hole on offense
@@derictan12xx Ben Simmons got cooked by Trae yung both of them can't guard legitimate bigs. Draymonds defense like goberts relies on their teammates help defense to make it work
Glad to see the video - this analysis is totally correct. Us Jazz fans know this and know that it's not Rudy's fault. In the post-game interview they stated their defensive gameplan was to leave Mann and Beverly open which they did, and they just made the shots. The backcourt could NOT prevent people from penetrating to the rim, so Rudy was forced to rotate to prevent a layup.
But you can’t leave them as open as they were… any NBA player can shoot like Curry if they are just completely open. Daniel just said Mann shot 39% from three that season albeit on low volume. If that was the plan it was a terrible one and it’s the coach’s fault
Great video. There were also times in the clippers series where the Jazz did pass to Rudy but it was never in a good enough spot for him to do anything.
yeah definitely Snyder's fault, as a coach he should've seen that easily, and make adjustments, the Clippers ran it like 10 straight times, Snyder choked.
Snyder definitely failed the Jazz just like when he designed a defense against James Harden/Houston where he wanted the defensive player to stand behind harden at the three point line. SMH
what else can coach Snyder do, *tell the defense to actively rotate?* I mean, we are talking about the NBA playoffs, the players are supposed to know that shit. Rudy's primary job was to defend the paint, but his teammates kept letting him down by leaving players along the perimeter open.
What I got from your video is the solution may for Rudy to become more of an offensive threat, then teams can't take the risk to play small ball anymore. Great breakdown. Hopefully Rudy is working on his shooting and ballhandling this offseason.
My personal gripe with Rudy is that he has been in the NBA for several years but we haven’t seen a significant jump in his offensive skillset since he entered the league. In no way should guards be able to stop a 7’2 man from scoring inside.
I think for some possessions that's definitely okay because Paul George is not the quickest guy, but definitely getting his guys to continue rotating after dribble penetration is important especially since there's gonna be guys opposing teams can attack like Clarkson, Mitchell and Bogdanovic. This series, no one was rotating to the corner and whoever was there was getting wide open shots.
There's a difference between guarding him on switches and guarding him all game. On switches when pg tries to iso him he did fine, but if that's all game it'll be a problem. He wants to help, so he'll sag off and give him open threes. They'll just put pg off ball, pull Rudy into the paint, then kickout. It's a fundamental problem with their defence, it doesn't matter who he guards. The jazz always have a weak link to attack, Rudy will overhelp because he has to, and they'll find his man wide open
some people are saying its not his fault, its the coaches'/gamplan's fault. you made a good point though, the whole reason the 5 out even worked is because rudy can’t score on smaller defenders. he needs to work on his offense if he wants to avoid that trap again
Brilliance, of course you cannot blame a 7 footer for not being able to quickly cover from paint to the three point line lol that's pure coaching and PG fault, someone has to see that and I am glad you did because now I know everyone ripping him for this is very much out of line. This even proves his potential is even higher than we thought as well, with the right mentorship he will definitely be a top 10 player in the league.
Gobert will never be a top 10 player lmao, he is paid 200m to be basically what deandre jordan was for the clippers years ago. Both dont even have any offensive game outside of 3 feet
Just watched the mavs beat the jazz with no luka and it’s interesting they did the exact same thing. Had kleber play small stretch 5 and just rained it from deep because gobert needs to stay to guard the paint.
One more point to add to Rudy not being a threat on offense. I think the Jazz wings/guards didn't look for him, or utilize him. They mostly looked for their own shot. So if they looked for him then he would be causing more problems for the clippers and they would have had to go big.
I'm a Celtics fan who enjoyed watching this series this past spring. Thanks for the vid. Based on your analysis, if I had to guess, I'd say that the result of that series was: 10% Gobert 20% Utah's perimeter personnel/matchup issues 25% Defensive game planning issues on Snyder's end (team was not making basic rotations to corner) 45% Conley's health (and Mitchell's to a lesser extent). While Conley is a smaller player, his defensive IQ would've helped a lot imo. Mitchell was a step slow on a lot of rotations and this had to have been at least partly related to his health, even though he's not a great defender.
What most people don't get is that the Jazz have extremely poor defensive personnel, they are full of good offensive player that are below average at best on defense. Rudy is the only reason they have been a top defense in the RS. But right offense can always scheme against one defender, whoever this person is. It's not like Davis, Giannis, Dray or whoever could have done any better, they would have been put in a corner the same way Rudy was, not in position to help and recover. Give Rudy more defensive talent and you'll see.
Yep, this is pretty much what I saw, especially on the offensive end. They weren't even looking for him or trying to force the Clippers to bring Zubac back into the game. Very very bizarre coaching by Snyder. If you aren't going to feed him on the offensive end, you can't even have him on the floor in those situations, DPOY award (which we have put WAY too much stock into in recent years) or not.
Sorry not sorry, but I've watched a bunch of the tape, and blaming Gobert for every other jazz having the absolute worst perimeter defense I've ever seen. When Gobert helps, nobody rotates to cover. Its abysmal all around Robert, he's the only one doing anything useful defensively. Then they take him out of the paint like that's somehow going to help. They need perimeter defense. Gobert can't cover all 5 dudes.
Dirk, chandler, and Bron didn’t have a post game. When he used to drive they would pack the paint so the adjustment next year was to post up lebron more and punish help defenders with shooters.
Finally, people kept telling me Gobert was overrated and couldn't guard near the perimeter. He's not a regular 90s center that can't guard the perimeter. He can decently guard players
Exactly--when he has other good defenders around him, he doesn't have to stay in the paint as a rim protector and can defend opposing players on the perimeter, which he can do really well. The Jazz system doesn't allow him to do this, because the other Jazz players have trouble staying in front of other players, guards in particular, so Gobert has to stay close to the paint.
The small ball 5OUT offense wouldnt happen if he had a single post move to expose the smaller Batum. Theres a huge reason to why this wouldn't be possible with an embiid or even ayton
People don’t understand that rudy has 1 of 2 options when someone drives the paint. He either lets them get an EASY layup, or he makes them kick it out for an open 3. The chances of them missing an open 3 are much higher than missing an open layup so he has to force them to kick it out. What the jazz need are guys who can prohibit players from getting to the paint at will so Rudy can stay on the perimeter and not have to crash the paint every possession. Not a coaching issue, not a Rudy issue, but a jazz issue.
White forwards can't play defense? You ever heard of AK-47? I do agree we should upgrade at both wing positions but not because they're are white they're aging and didn't perform well.
I've been telling people the jazz team as a while weren't playing hard enough on defense. Gobert patrols the paint better than any center in the league. The perimeter guys have to hustle, close out and switch. Gobert erases their mistakes when the other team drive the ball, they've got to do all they can to switch and close out
The Gobert hate came out of nowhere during the second half of that Clippers series (not counting when he stopped the league in 2020). Lol. I knew people were hating for no reason and this video shows why. While Gobert has his limitations on offense, he more than makes up for it on the defensive end. He's not a good enough offensive player to make the opposing Center (Morris) pay for being a much smaller defender but he does well in defending the paint and the pick-and-roll. His job is to protect the paint and the wing Jazz players were the ones who were supposed to rotate and pick up his man. A good perimeter defender can also prevent opposing players from penetrating which this video mentioned that the Jazz don't have.
Imo. When going against a 5 out... The defender should play up the the offensive player to their weak hand, forcing the drive. Then When the first man gets beat, instead of trailing, he immediately switches to closest man, as the the 2,3,4 back switch to seal up the open 3. Thus if when the offensive player looks to pass out of the one v one on a set up gobert, The passing lanes are either sealed or taken away. The nba's switching is very weird to me
If there in a 5 and out ,the last guy in the 5 which is the center , has to play help D on the weak side (which is the corner is Rudy’s case) always. Then when the center moves to weak corner have every body switch and move over a position to address the weak side where the ball gets moved. Rudy is slacking giving up on the 3 ball like that when you damn well know that’s a team that can shoot open 3’s all day during the regular season. In my opinion I’d rather contest the three and make him drive and work for it or make him pass. But letting him shoot a wide open 3 without barely even throwing up your hands is wild.
It should have been obvious that Rudy's defense is not the issue. The guards and wings don't worry about blowing assignments because Rudy does of good job of cleaning up all of their mistakes. That gets exposed when teams start attacking their rotations. However, Rudy should be working on one or two moves that can take advantage of small defenders. He doesn't need to be dynamic post scorer, he just needs enough to keep them honest.
Regular season: efficiency. Playoffs: abbility to adapt. Utah showed none. Do you agree that Utah in the playoffs abandoned their regular season style of play (flowing offense), for more iso havy offence, and if you do, why do you think this even happened?
@@mark-one6511 no the problem is nobody on the team can drive when the 3s are not falling outside of Clarkson they just settle for 3s and it hurts then when they’re not falling
@@yanyansalvilla958 if it wasn’t for Mitchell they wouldn’t have won a game Mitchell tries to be the man when other can’t do anything the jazz don’t drive or anything they just jack up 3s Mitchell is the only one that will drive into the paint outside of Clarkson sometimes maybe if his teammates stepped up he wouldn’t have to do everything 9 ast 9reb game 6 and still lost guess that’s his fault
The Jazz were missing their point guard in Conley, who was injured, along w/ Mitchell. W/ Conley out, Mitchell tried to take over--which isn't a good idea because the Jazz are best when they spread the floor and get open shots for everyone. Given that Mitchell was injured, it made it even worse that he was trying to play so much isolation ball.
Exactly. Rudy didn’t get exposed on defense. He got exposed on offense. That’s what Shaq was talking about when he was making fun of the contract. The objective of basketball is to get buckets and you can’t call yourself a start if you’re incapable of getting buckets.
I remember going into the playoffs and telling myself I'm not falling for that 1 seed ish and I was right. The jazz lost to Terrance mann and the 76ers lost to Kevin huerter, people get fooled by the 1 seeds alot. The jazz is just going to be like the 2019 and 2020 bucks, get the 1 seed just to lose over and over again in the second round.
The reality is that it’s never just one player’s fault. That’s a media driven narrative to stir stuff up. The problem is that Utah built everything around one style of play and compounding that is the problem that Robert can’t punish small ball units when he has dudes 5 inches plus shorter than him on him. We see the same thing offensively with kp but at least kp can really shoot it. We’re seeing a real shift towards bigs that can’t get played off the floor anchoring teams. Ayton, AD, bam, even brook, and of course Joel and jokic have been able to have success because their bigs can stay on the floor and punish teams for switching on the glass and through quick post moves. Gobert doesn’t do that which means Utah needs a small ball option when gobert gets played off the floor. Maybe Rudy gay can help with this (I doubt it) but that’s the only way to solve this problem
This is literally just a coaching issue. Snyder should've adjusted his defense. If Gobert is gonna come to help you have to be able to rotate on the perimeter.
That's a small sample size with him in the ISO. You can tell he looks incredibly uncomfortable. Kyrie, Steph, or Harden would easily expose him with handles on those switches.
The reason the rotations were bad was what you said at the end, match ups. Rotating is fine until you end up giving someone like pg and Reggie wide open looks. Out of all the clippers you wanted t mann and batum taking those shots.
Doing so would have decreased the amount of open shots the clippers had from the corner 3 yes. But tbh, the jazz would have been caught either way. The only teams I’ve ever seen successfully stop the 5 out offense is Lakers, bucks, and Heat. The rest get rolled over tbh.
Lol just another casual.. You do know Utah was the only team who could compete with MJ and forced some of his worst games EVER.. right? #1 seed last season for the ENTIRE NBA.. difference between Utah and other places is we don't need 3 over-paid, underplayed, superstars to win. It's a matter of time. #TakeNote
@@cameronralston2507 that was 2 decades ago , but keep having hope . Hope is a good thing really. Btw are you employed by espn or do you write sports articles for some website or print? Or are you just a guy watching sports shows and posting comments? Because I’m sorry to break it to you buddy , that means you casual bro. You don’t do this for a living .
Quinn Snyder didn't make relavant adjustments, Gobert was the sole defensive anchor. Without him they drifted in terms of defence. Long story short. Jazz needs more defensive options, they can't always out-score opponents in the playoffs.
The person getting beat off the ball handler should've immediately ran to the 2nd weakside perimeter player as the player guarding that one should replace Rudy, guarding Mann, as he's going to contest the driver at the rim as a rim protector. It was a poor defensive scheme that should've been adjusted seeing it's the playoffs.
You can't be the defensive player of year if you are only good at guarding pick and rolls and isolation match ups. You have to be dynamic in the defensive end, and that includes closing out on the shooters. Rudy had to know when to switch to the wing shooters, but instead he stuck to his only knowledge of defense which is to guard the paint. Rudy has to know that he has to influence the wing shooters with his size by at least trying to close out on them. Rudy is an old school "big" who is just big, but can't shoot (no offense). Quinn Snyder had to make adjustments too not just Gobert.
Finally someone said it . Their loss wasn't solely on Rudy it was more so on the guards and wings who couldn't stop a snail from blowing past them. And Quinn Snyder for not make the correct adjustments.
if there is something to blame rudy for is his offense..clippers were playing small ball and he cant post up..they stop jazz pick and roll and rudy lost his offense...his defense is good just bad rotation for the team..
@@kahusay5379 This, he needed to abuse the guards in the post but he didn't...too tall to not have a 20 pt game vs smalls
@@kahusay5379 yeah I agree with that
@@gc1087 ,
he can't abuse no one if he doesn't get the ball.
@Bronsexual Police Department true but imagine hating on bronsexuals
i appreciate the analysis, it helped me realized that gobert was not the sole problem for the jazz's early exit
Yeah, rudy has those tendencies to rotate towards the basket, there was a flaw in the defensive gameplan for utah and they paid for it
Honesty only casuals will say that it’s Rudy’s fault the Jazz lost, there were so many more issues on top of Rudy’s poor offense
True. It’s easy to make gobert the “fall” guy, but if the Jazz weren’t getting beat off the dribble so much he wouldn’t have needed to rotate.
@@hypo773 casuals always go with narratives because they can’t create their own ideas.. because they’re casuals
@@kanarip8798 yeah exactly, plus it’s easy to hate on Rudy because of the whole covid thing, but that’s how you can tell they didn’t watch the games lmao
yeah just from watching, personally, my first thought was the wings and guards looked lost on rotation. I think that's why rudy kept hesitating towards the paint because he was expecting someone to rotate to the corner and it just didn't happen
Other than Gobert, the rest of the Jazz are not good defenders--they're short, slow, and not athletic, which means Gobert has to try to guard multiple players and stay close to the paint.
@@emileconstance5851 Donovan is the only fast guard and he can block shots on other guards but at 6,1 that's all he can kinda do gobert is the slowest on the floor and is forced to a mismatch and with mann now a threat and the clippers having decent defenders and player all around gobert was fucked.
Tbh that man got abused by the clips and the coach ain't give a fuck
@@emileconstance5851 yeah it's crazy people's hate in geberts defence when you look at jazz's team and see a couple decent defenders but no one truly elite besides gobert and yet that had such a good defensive rating. There issue is a lack of 3 and d player who actually helps gobert maybe a bridges style player would help someone who can defend the perimeter but also is good at help defence a player who is also big eko to play sg or sf would be necessary as you really want someone with size and length to help incase someone beats conley on the perimeter
Maybe if Gobert had a SINGLE post move to punish small ball he could offset the horrible perimeter defense by his team. I've never seen such a dainty and ineffectual center in the paint outside a PnR.
I guess you never saw Ben Wallace and Mutombo
@@paquinraino8180 Nah th-cam.com/video/kstxcpbXHG0/w-d-xo.html
@@mrsky67 So you took 1 game to tell me he was good offensively during his whole career? Nah Gobert also had some big offensive games but he ain't a good offensive player just like Mutombo or Wallace and that's all
@@paquinraino8180 I’m not saying that, what I’m saying is Wallace would’ve punished the small ball, and not been ran off the court like Gobert
@@mrsky67 Gobert don't even got that much often the ball, and you sure didn't see France during these olympics to tell me he can't punished small ball
Thanks for the post, many people were ragging on Gobert when others were not checking their assignments.
A fun follow-up video would be, how you would address against these 5 out spread offense if you were quin synder
The bucks play the same drop defense with Brock Lopez and they just won a championship, so it can be done
@@clipseo Their team also has historically great defense. Having jrue and giannis and even Middleton helps them alot
@@clipseo drop coverage isn't the issue heck both teams in the finals played drop coverage it's when you only have 1 good defender in gobert and maybe conley if you count him but he is old and out of his prime.
Bucks have the best perimeter defender in the league, a good help defender in gian, and I guess some other great defensive role players.
Heck the suns run more drop coverage that Bucks from memory shame that there was so many injuries on both sides up to that point but man do I want to rewatch that with everyone being fully healthy I miss watching giannis try and bully Ayton only for ayton to not move
So basically....Gobert is a legit DPoY, but there is only so much one can do.
He ain’t legit lol
@@daniell5740 Elaborate more on why
Yeah like take a look at history and DPOYs and elite defenders also had good to great to elite defensive teammates. Ben Wallace? Tayshaun and Billups. Rodman? Dumars and Zeke. MJ? Scottie, Horace and Rodman. Draymond? KD, Klay, Iggy. Now what about Rudy?... yeah exactly!
Yes. The problem is that they asked him to guard the entire Clippers team at once.
@@daniell5740 thank you smfh
Every dpoy has a weakness. Their weakness usually gets covered by their team defense. This was the coach's fault.
Not ben simmons or draymond green though, they have very little weaknesses on defense. All their weaknesses is on the orher side
Gobert had a hole on defense and a bigger hole on offense
@@derictan12xx Ben Simmons got cooked by Trae yung both of them can't guard legitimate bigs. Draymonds defense like goberts relies on their teammates help defense to make it work
zhian every defense requires their team to make it work.
@@ToastedToddler Yes and I'm saying it's the coaching Staffs fault for not adjusting their defense which makes Rudy basically useless
Kawhi does not have a weakness in defense
This analysis feels mind blowing.
The way you pronounce Film as "Fil-em" reminds me of my Grandpa. Love it.
Is your grandpa Irish hy any chance?
Love the analysis, I appreciate you dissecting what happened in that series instead of just chalking it up to "Rudy can't guard Terrance Mann"
Glad to see the video - this analysis is totally correct. Us Jazz fans know this and know that it's not Rudy's fault. In the post-game interview they stated their defensive gameplan was to leave Mann and Beverly open which they did, and they just made the shots. The backcourt could NOT prevent people from penetrating to the rim, so Rudy was forced to rotate to prevent a layup.
It was on gobert if ur 7ft you would think u could score on a little guard wearing goggles right ???
But you can’t leave them as open as they were… any NBA player can shoot like Curry if they are just completely open. Daniel just said Mann shot 39% from three that season albeit on low volume. If that was the plan it was a terrible one and it’s the coach’s fault
Great video. There were also times in the clippers series where the Jazz did pass to Rudy but it was never in a good enough spot for him to do anything.
Post move baby! A little hook shot would be great for him.
Thanks, this needed to be explained for the casuals.
They cover their ears and try to talk over you, when you have a valid point.
yeah definitely Snyder's fault, as a coach he should've seen that easily, and make adjustments, the Clippers ran it like 10 straight times, Snyder choked.
Snyder definitely failed the Jazz just like when he designed a defense against James Harden/Houston where he wanted the defensive player to stand behind harden at the three point line. SMH
what else can coach Snyder do, *tell the defense to actively rotate?* I mean, we are talking about the NBA playoffs, the players are supposed to know that shit. Rudy's primary job was to defend the paint, but his teammates kept letting him down by leaving players along the perimeter open.
It was on gobert if ur 7ft you would think u could score on a little guard wearing goggles right ???
Valid analysis, can you breakdown game 1 of AIs 76ers vs the lakers
No
What I got from your video is the solution may for Rudy to become more of an offensive threat, then teams can't take the risk to play small ball anymore. Great breakdown. Hopefully Rudy is working on his shooting and ballhandling this offseason.
Nah he's literally ass pg literally owns him💀
My personal gripe with Rudy is that he has been in the NBA for several years but we haven’t seen a significant jump in his offensive skillset since he entered the league. In no way should guards be able to stop a 7’2 man from scoring inside.
THANK YOU. I thought people saying it was all on rudy getting exposed just didn’t watch the games at all or were just hating.
In that case, what do u think of Gobert guarding PG against clippers 5-out offense?
I think for some possessions that's definitely okay because Paul George is not the quickest guy, but definitely getting his guys to continue rotating after dribble penetration is important especially since there's gonna be guys opposing teams can attack like Clarkson, Mitchell and Bogdanovic. This series, no one was rotating to the corner and whoever was there was getting wide open shots.
If you put gobert on Pg all game, he would draw a lot of fouls and get him in foul trouble.
There's a difference between guarding him on switches and guarding him all game. On switches when pg tries to iso him he did fine, but if that's all game it'll be a problem. He wants to help, so he'll sag off and give him open threes. They'll just put pg off ball, pull Rudy into the paint, then kickout. It's a fundamental problem with their defence, it doesn't matter who he guards. The jazz always have a weak link to attack, Rudy will overhelp because he has to, and they'll find his man wide open
@@nickthejack they really need a 3 and d sf or pf tbh
@@silverfang4583 them and every other team lol. But yeah, it'd help for sure
some people are saying its not his fault, its the coaches'/gamplan's fault. you made a good point though, the whole reason the 5 out even worked is because rudy can’t score on smaller defenders. he needs to work on his offense if he wants to avoid that trap again
Brilliance, of course you cannot blame a 7 footer for not being able to quickly cover from paint to the three point line lol that's pure coaching and PG fault, someone has to see that and I am glad you did because now I know everyone ripping him for this is very much out of line. This even proves his potential is even higher than we thought as well, with the right mentorship he will definitely be a top 10 player in the league.
Gobert will never be a top 10 player lmao, he is paid 200m to be basically what deandre jordan was for the clippers years ago. Both dont even have any offensive game outside of 3 feet
Just watched the mavs beat the jazz with no luka and it’s interesting they did the exact same thing. Had kleber play small stretch 5 and just rained it from deep because gobert needs to stay to guard the paint.
DPOY is a regular season award. Post season struggles have no barring on award given for regular season play.
@The truth shall set Bronsexuals free they cast votes before the post season even starts.
One more point to add to Rudy not being a threat on offense. I think the Jazz wings/guards didn't look for him, or utilize him. They mostly looked for their own shot. So if they looked for him then he would be causing more problems for the clippers and they would have had to go big.
5:18 - (talking about potential teams running a 5 out against Utah in the playoffs) "... and the Lakers"
Lakers: *immediately trade for Westbrook*
I'm a Celtics fan who enjoyed watching this series this past spring. Thanks for the vid.
Based on your analysis, if I had to guess, I'd say that the result of that series was:
10% Gobert
20% Utah's perimeter personnel/matchup issues
25% Defensive game planning issues on Snyder's end (team was not making basic rotations to corner)
45% Conley's health (and Mitchell's to a lesser extent). While Conley is a smaller player, his defensive IQ would've helped a lot imo. Mitchell was a step slow on a lot of rotations and this had to have been at least partly related to his health, even though he's not a great defender.
What most people don't get is that the Jazz have extremely poor defensive personnel, they are full of good offensive player that are below average at best on defense. Rudy is the only reason they have been a top defense in the RS. But right offense can always scheme against one defender, whoever this person is. It's not like Davis, Giannis, Dray or whoever could have done any better, they would have been put in a corner the same way Rudy was, not in position to help and recover. Give Rudy more defensive talent and you'll see.
Our eyes are not lying! He have been abused in every series in the playoffs!! Without him they were awesome defensively
At this point y’all just making shit up lol
@@X02Overdose you must be on dope for real?
Great analysis. Has anyone heard what Snyder had to say about this?
Yep, this is pretty much what I saw, especially on the offensive end. They weren't even looking for him or trying to force the Clippers to bring Zubac back into the game. Very very bizarre coaching by Snyder. If you aren't going to feed him on the offensive end, you can't even have him on the floor in those situations, DPOY award (which we have put WAY too much stock into in recent years) or not.
Sorry not sorry, but I've watched a bunch of the tape, and blaming Gobert for every other jazz having the absolute worst perimeter defense I've ever seen. When Gobert helps, nobody rotates to cover. Its abysmal all around Robert, he's the only one doing anything useful defensively. Then they take him out of the paint like that's somehow going to help. They need perimeter defense. Gobert can't cover all 5 dudes.
nice video and good points !
If you see this, probably breakdown what really happened to LeBron in 2011 in terms of what went wrong, or i would to see the 80s Pistons offense
Dirk, chandler, and Bron didn’t have a post game. When he used to drive they would pack the paint so the adjustment next year was to post up lebron more and punish help defenders with shooters.
Lmfao dirk would cook in the post fym💀
great analysis, keep up the good work
Pg and reggie kept beating their defenders 1on1. If that happens. Any defense is screwed.
YESSS, some throwback stuff would be nicce. 80s, 90s and especially 2000s!!!
The lack of defensive rotation in these clips is absolutely startling. Imagine if they rotated like the Lakers or Raptors
pg would still still smoke 💀
love the short and good videos keep it up
This dude has to blow up. These are such good analytical video’s!
Finally, people kept telling me Gobert was overrated and couldn't guard near the perimeter. He's not a regular 90s center that can't guard the perimeter. He can decently guard players
He also kinda solid on perimeter if u guys have seen the international games
Exactly--when he has other good defenders around him, he doesn't have to stay in the paint as a rim protector and can defend opposing players on the perimeter, which he can do really well. The Jazz system doesn't allow him to do this, because the other Jazz players have trouble staying in front of other players, guards in particular, so Gobert has to stay close to the paint.
The small ball 5OUT offense wouldnt happen if he had a single post move to expose the smaller Batum. Theres a huge reason to why this wouldn't be possible with an embiid or even ayton
Great vid subbed thank you
Very informative perfect video analysis. Thought u had million subs man, u deserve a million , this video was perfect well said . Subscribed!!!
People don’t understand that rudy has 1 of 2 options when someone drives the paint. He either lets them get an EASY layup, or he makes them kick it out for an open 3. The chances of them missing an open 3 are much higher than missing an open layup so he has to force them to kick it out. What the jazz need are guys who can prohibit players from getting to the paint at will so Rudy can stay on the perimeter and not have to crash the paint every possession. Not a coaching issue, not a Rudy issue, but a jazz issue.
More to defense then just blocking shots. That award needs to start going to wing defenders more or separate center award and have a wing trophy
playoffs are won on adjustments. good coaching from ty lou for maximizing the potential for five out. Jazz just run out time to make correction.
Good analysis! Thanks.
Dude your analysis is another level! Great to learn from you
I don't even watch basketball but these break downs are entertaining.
Great analysis
Great piece
This is everything I was thinking! Thankyou so much for this video
The big problem is Jazz guards and two white forwards can't play defense. It makes Gobert need to cover from inside to 3point lane.
White forwards can't play defense? You ever heard of AK-47? I do agree we should upgrade at both wing positions but not because they're are white they're aging and didn't perform well.
Also when it comes to guards.. Butler, Spida.. and maybe Conley if he decides to come back.
Rudy didn't get exposed, his teammates' laziness did.
you are a hell of a content creator
Great job once again
I hope the Jazz can make some improvements to the roster in the offseason
Probably not, they're so limited on cap space
@@iamsharks Looking good so far. Conley, Gay and listening to trade offers from GS.
That’s a really good way to look at it; to the naked eye Rudy seems to be at fault. But you made perfect sense
I've been telling people the jazz team as a while weren't playing hard enough on defense. Gobert patrols the paint better than any center in the league. The perimeter guys have to hustle, close out and switch. Gobert erases their mistakes when the other team drive the ball, they've got to do all they can to switch and close out
Great video
The Gobert hate came out of nowhere during the second half of that Clippers series (not counting when he stopped the league in 2020). Lol. I knew people were hating for no reason and this video shows why.
While Gobert has his limitations on offense, he more than makes up for it on the defensive end. He's not a good enough offensive player to make the opposing Center (Morris) pay for being a much smaller defender but he does well in defending the paint and the pick-and-roll. His job is to protect the paint and the wing Jazz players were the ones who were supposed to rotate and pick up his man. A good perimeter defender can also prevent opposing players from penetrating which this video mentioned that the Jazz don't have.
He is 7'2 how can he guard 3 point shooters. Show me someone dominating him in the paint and your point is valid
Imo. When going against a 5 out... The defender should play up the the offensive player to their weak hand, forcing the drive.
Then When the first man gets beat, instead of trailing, he immediately switches to closest man, as the the 2,3,4 back switch to seal up the open 3.
Thus if when the offensive player looks to pass out of the one v one on a set up gobert,
The passing lanes are either sealed or taken away.
The nba's switching is very weird to me
2 thing
1. terrible coaching on Utahs end for not adjusting.
2. no one expected T Mann to become prime Ray Allen
ty lue is underrated as a coach
Before watching I figured out his weakness is on 3s coz he's great at guarding the paint. Great breakdown tho and seeing adjustments Clippers made
It won't be his weakness if those wing players can defense
At that point the Jazz should've ran a zone offense to stop the Clippers but Quin never made the adjustments nessesary
If there in a 5 and out ,the last guy in the 5 which is the center , has to play help D on the weak side (which is the corner is Rudy’s case) always. Then when the center moves to weak corner have every body switch and move over a position to address the weak side where the ball gets moved. Rudy is slacking giving up on the 3 ball like that when you damn well know that’s a team that can shoot open 3’s all day during the regular season. In my opinion I’d rather contest the three and make him drive and work for it or make him pass. But letting him shoot a wide open 3 without barely even throwing up your hands is wild.
As a Jazz fan, I and every other Jazz fan I’ve talked to pins this on Snyder. No adjustments whatsoever. Only the National media blames Rudy
It should have been obvious that Rudy's defense is not the issue. The guards and wings don't worry about blowing assignments because Rudy does of good job of cleaning up all of their mistakes. That gets exposed when teams start attacking their rotations. However, Rudy should be working on one or two moves that can take advantage of small defenders. He doesn't need to be dynamic post scorer, he just needs enough to keep them honest.
Regular season: efficiency.
Playoffs: abbility to adapt. Utah showed none.
Do you agree that Utah in the playoffs abandoned their regular season style of play (flowing offense), for more iso havy offence, and if you do, why do you think this even happened?
Michell want to have that superstar moment of take over a game and it gets him numbers but makes it harder to win
exactly. playoffs is all about adjustments
@@mark-one6511 no the problem is nobody on the team can drive when the 3s are not falling outside of Clarkson they just settle for 3s and it hurts then when they’re not falling
@@yanyansalvilla958 if it wasn’t for Mitchell they wouldn’t have won a game Mitchell tries to be the man when other can’t do anything the jazz don’t drive or anything they just jack up 3s Mitchell is the only one that will drive into the paint outside of Clarkson sometimes maybe if his teammates stepped up he wouldn’t have to do everything 9 ast 9reb game 6 and still lost guess that’s his fault
The Jazz were missing their point guard in Conley, who was injured, along w/ Mitchell. W/ Conley out, Mitchell tried to take over--which isn't a good idea because the Jazz are best when they spread the floor and get open shots for everyone. Given that Mitchell was injured, it made it even worse that he was trying to play so much isolation ball.
Exactly. Rudy didn’t get exposed on defense. He got exposed on offense. That’s what Shaq was talking about when he was making fun of the contract. The objective of basketball is to get buckets and you can’t call yourself a start if you’re incapable of getting buckets.
3:35 That was badass
DPOY is a regular season award. The playoffs don't matter. It's the best defender of the regular season. Snyder got out coached in that series
I remember going into the playoffs and telling myself I'm not falling for that 1 seed ish and I was right. The jazz lost to Terrance mann and the 76ers lost to Kevin huerter, people get fooled by the 1 seeds alot. The jazz is just going to be like the 2019 and 2020 bucks, get the 1 seed just to lose over and over again in the second round.
Lmfao nah pg smoked they're ass Terrance mann has one good game lmao pg carried the whole series
Their*
See this is how super teams are made people gonna trash gobert out of Utah and be mad when he join a star team
They rely too much on him honestly when they can’t really defend
This what was I exactly shouting watching that game live!!!
I lost $300 on that game... fxck!!!
I've been saying it's the coach all along. Quinn made bad adjustments vs the Clippers, he got outcoached by Ty.
Thank u I was tired of the rudy slander
Is drop coverage and catch hedge are the same?
Rudy Go-Burt a casual
Would love to hear your prospect analysis. My OKC got Josh Giddey but I don't know anything about him other than poor shooting and master passer.
Well said
Man I love the Clippers.
Yessir
now Dpoty is a regular season award
The reality is that it’s never just one player’s fault. That’s a media driven narrative to stir stuff up. The problem is that Utah built everything around one style of play and compounding that is the problem that Robert can’t punish small ball units when he has dudes 5 inches plus shorter than him on him. We see the same thing offensively with kp but at least kp can really shoot it. We’re seeing a real shift towards bigs that can’t get played off the floor anchoring teams. Ayton, AD, bam, even brook, and of course Joel and jokic have been able to have success because their bigs can stay on the floor and punish teams for switching on the glass and through quick post moves. Gobert doesn’t do that which means Utah needs a small ball option when gobert gets played off the floor. Maybe Rudy gay can help with this (I doubt it) but that’s the only way to solve this problem
This is literally just a coaching issue. Snyder should've adjusted his defense. If Gobert is gonna come to help you have to be able to rotate on the perimeter.
That's a small sample size with him in the ISO. You can tell he looks incredibly uncomfortable. Kyrie, Steph, or Harden would easily expose him with handles on those switches.
The examples in this video are a good representation of how well he did on ISO all year. He's much better than he was when Curry had him spinning.
The reason the rotations were bad was what you said at the end, match ups. Rotating is fine until you end up giving someone like pg and Reggie wide open looks. Out of all the clippers you wanted t mann and batum taking those shots.
I get the principle but actually Batum is money on catch and shoot threes. Reggie is much more inefficient except in the clutch
So the solution would've been for the defender at the wing to rotate over to the corner and gobert float near the rim?
Doing so would have decreased the amount of open shots the clippers had from the corner 3 yes. But tbh, the jazz would have been caught either way. The only teams I’ve ever seen successfully stop the 5 out offense is Lakers, bucks, and Heat. The rest get rolled over tbh.
His main issue is he can’t utilize the size mismatch on offense so the other team just go small ball without any consequences
It’s funny how Utah Fans ALWAYS think they have a chance 😂😂😂
it’s funny how you’d expect sports fans to think otherwise
Lol just another casual.. You do know Utah was the only team who could compete with MJ and forced some of his worst games EVER.. right? #1 seed last season for the ENTIRE NBA.. difference between Utah and other places is we don't need 3 over-paid, underplayed, superstars to win. It's a matter of time. #TakeNote
@@cameronralston2507 that was 2 decades ago , but keep having hope . Hope is a good thing really.
Btw are you employed by espn or do you write sports articles for some website or print?
Or are you just a guy watching sports shows and posting comments? Because I’m sorry to break it to you buddy , that means you casual bro. You don’t do this for a living .
Quinn Snyder didn't make relavant adjustments, Gobert was the sole defensive anchor. Without him they drifted in terms of defence. Long story short. Jazz needs more defensive options, they can't always out-score opponents in the playoffs.
The person getting beat off the ball handler should've immediately ran to the 2nd weakside perimeter player as the player guarding that one should replace Rudy, guarding Mann, as he's going to contest the driver at the rim as a rim protector. It was a poor defensive scheme that should've been adjusted seeing it's the playoffs.
It's not Rudy's fault he can't guard the rim and the three-point line at the same time
Pg cooked his whole team back to cancun in 6💀
@@splashps3441 they were lucky Mitchell and Conley were hurt
@@ChewyChicken589 hurt my ass Mitchell just threw and choked and Conley is washed
You can't be the defensive player of year if you are only good at guarding pick and rolls and isolation match ups. You have to be dynamic in the defensive end, and that includes closing out on the shooters. Rudy had to know when to switch to the wing shooters, but instead he stuck to his only knowledge of defense which is to guard the paint. Rudy has to know that he has to influence the wing shooters with his size by at least trying to close out on them. Rudy is an old school "big" who is just big, but can't shoot (no offense). Quinn Snyder had to make adjustments too not just Gobert.
i love you daniel li
The jazz defense be looking unusual in the playoffs lol