John I've been watching you since the BMX days andan I just want to let you know that your a dope a dude man.. and you have a great personality I like that about you bro frfr.. just sayin cuz I don't comment much. But yea much love from Florida my brotha!
@hustlasstory E-Ride Pro SS 2.0 aka ERP does 60 and I got mine up to 59 and I have it on the Relive app as well. I never said Surrons go 5 miles slower learn to read.
@@watermelonaxe I don't think they wanna deal with it since it's just a prototype bike that everyone thrashes around. Plus I heard these bikes don't have chain tensioners so doing maintenance is a pain.
@@YouT860 It's another thing to break off and potentially hurt you. You're not supposed to have them on mountain bikes. I have one on my surron just for convenience. But yeah just lean it on something or lay it down on the left side
Wow... This video just made me cancel my order. I was excited, but the bike’s weight of 203 lbs (up from the original 185 lbs), the chain slapping around under heavy throttle, and the likelihood of it being even heavier with the new, reportedly heavier forks and chain guard make it a no-go for me. The weight is edging closer to Stark Varg territory. Yeah, I know the Stark is more expensive, but let’s be real-most people will still end up putting a few thousand more into this bike once they get it. At that point, the weight and price gap start to narrow, making the Stark a more compelling option for me.
You are making the right move. I don't have a Varg but the only other real option is an upgraded Ultra Bee, which spirals out of control with blowing $$$ fast.
If it's truly over 185lbs my order will be canceled also. Every new video on this bike makes me wanna cancel my order even more. Looks like I'll be ordering another mx5
@@JohnHicksFilm i bet it's been stretched out beyond its life span being demo'd by every youtuber in the past month. Surprised they gave it to you like that.
From what I saw on the video, both passes briefly hit top speed of 106kph=65.865 mph(65.865346377 exactly) Pretty awesome considering what it is. Ridden bikes before that hit 130+. Seems that would be plenty enough speed to get around town on, but maybe not quite enough for freeway. Thanks for the great videos, John!
Good luck to the people who pre ordered one, I can only hope they fix all the problems. That tiny dirt bike seat doesn't look like a good time 😂 E Ride Pro SR with it's larger seat is more my Style.
Bought one of your bikes back in 2017 lasted until 2021 great bike almost had the 180's down gear and center sprocket broke after all those years of riding had great time with it had it fixed a couple times, I think the first time I fixed it I messed it up ended up buying a bike off ebay too small to use so I bought a mountain bike from the store going great
@@hustlasstory7611 a CRF450 is 244 lbs and thats a 4 stroke so idk why people are saying its light as shit its pretty normal nothing wrong with its weight
@@Autoblox0its like half the size as a 450 but almost the same weight. It is a little on the heavy side. Literally Same weight as ultra bee which is way bigger
Lol, no. And if it does come like that or get loose over time (totally normal on any bike) you can and should definitely tighten it (and its easy, wo not sure why he didnt do that asap)
You said what Hicks? That you’re giving this 1 away too? 😁 🤫right here bro! The both🤫 all jokes aside!… love the content & your feedback on everything!🙏🏼
One of the main reasons that this is better than the Eride is that the Eride is old technology because it still uses the jack shaft and belt drive. The Talaria and this bike do not. Also, it seems that you have been around these bikes long enough that you would know how to tighten the chain in a few minutes???
Yes...just like the other comments. The chain is skipping teeth, to lose. Will need a new sprocket and maybe chain and take out the slack. It's a wild little bike.
When john mentioned throne serpent bike we still have not seen that bike yet, only new thing shown was the scooter he had so guess we will soon see the throne serpent soon. the lcd on this bike does not have a category titled games like snake or cards lol. the company might give you a surprise return the one you borrowed and gift is new one in post coming in few days with money refunded you spent on it. bike heavy so it dont fly away at top speed.
All SurRon’s clone are not Ebike by category , they are eMoto- off-road motorcycles not street legal until required modifications to be street legal added . These bikes Must be registered and insured as same as motorcycles to legally ride on public roads. Ebike is a motorized bicycle with 750W motor power or less and no more then max speed of 20-28MPH depending of the state regulations and must be operated by pedals with electric motor assist. If Ebike have more then 750W and speed more then 20-28MPH but not exceed 45mph is considered as Moped ( motorized bicycle operated by motor and/or pedals ) or Low Speed motorcycle -Motor Driven Cycle ,scooters and motorcycles with less then 5 brake horse power and required registration and license plates
You should just tighten the chain if you can if you have the tools, I’m sure you do, but you should tighten the chain. The driver train is the same as a bicycle and a motorcycle. It basically needs a chain with some resistance. They all work like that so technically that chain just needs to be tight and there’s nothing different with this bike to all the other E bikes that also need their chains to be have a little tension
Love your maniac laughs! Flaws: Squeaky front brake Horrendous chain slap Weight No side-stand Display not very readable. Mostly fixable. PEVs must be under 132 lb (60 kg) where I am. 200 lb? That is a bit crazy.
How come they do not use dual discs on the front? specially for a bike that can do between 65-70.. that single disc i assume will have some serious fade in an emergency situation. None the less thats a sick bike!!
@ that’s a good point. I guess I was thinking more about street bikes. But even most or some of those have single discs. Oops guess this comment is stupid.
yo on tho wheelies you have to compress the front shock to but the bike to lift for you a lot of people are like once you get to 40% its like im posible to pick the bike up but thATS NOT TRUE most of the people who do a lot of wheelies dont really now of to get into the lift proper
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How tall are you bro, I'm 6'8 and I don't see myself being able to ride even a Suron
any updates on this bike yet I want to buy one but idk if.I should and what website can deliver it to my door step???
the speedometer is obviously in kph but still should probably mention it. top speed was about 65mph if it's accurate
He does mention its in km/h in the video
This is also the 16/19 which has a lower top speed cuz of the gearing
John I've been watching you since the BMX days andan I just want to let you know that your a dope a dude man.. and you have a great personality I like that about you bro frfr.. just sayin cuz I don't comment much. But yea much love from Florida my brotha!
15:19 cops dgaf hahah
I’d still get an e ride pro ss or a Surron due to it being more popular and tested imo
And the ERP is only 5 miles slower while being 60 pounds lighter.
@PathtoYahawah that's cap. Surrons can't do 60 out the box
@hustlasstory E-Ride Pro SS 2.0 aka ERP does 60 and I got mine up to 59 and I have it on the Relive app as well. I never said Surrons go 5 miles slower learn to read.
I’m getting the SR sigma looks like it’s built poorly
ERP got tons of issues, they should've fixed those before releasing 2 new bikes.....
ANOTHER BANGER!!!! LOVE WATHCING THESE VIDEOS AT WORK
There is no legitimate reason for a chain that loose, its a blatant rider safety issue.
Bruh, he literally said the bike has been getting tons of use by other youtubers. There's a good chance the bike just need maintenance.
@@limbergsaucedawhy wouldn’t voromotros fix it?
They don’t care
@@watermelonaxe I don't think they wanna deal with it since it's just a prototype bike that everyone thrashes around. Plus I heard these bikes don't have chain tensioners so doing maintenance is a pain.
@@limbergsauceda I meant to say would care. They don’t need to fix it they don’t care. Since it is a prototyoe
2min job just tighten it
No kickstand in a 200 lbs bike is silly
Well yeah motocross bikes dont have kickstands
@ so y’all just lean them on something. Is there a reason why? I mean bicycles and motorcycles have them.
@@YouT860u leave them in the floor
@@YouT860 yeah lean it on someting or use a seperate stand
@@YouT860 It's another thing to break off and potentially hurt you. You're not supposed to have them on mountain bikes. I have one on my surron just for convenience. But yeah just lean it on something or lay it down on the left side
Wow... This video just made me cancel my order. I was excited, but the bike’s weight of 203 lbs (up from the original 185 lbs), the chain slapping around under heavy throttle, and the likelihood of it being even heavier with the new, reportedly heavier forks and chain guard make it a no-go for me. The weight is edging closer to Stark Varg territory. Yeah, I know the Stark is more expensive, but let’s be real-most people will still end up putting a few thousand more into this bike once they get it. At that point, the weight and price gap start to narrow, making the Stark a more compelling option for me.
You are making the right move. I don't have a Varg but the only other real option is an upgraded Ultra Bee, which spirals out of control with blowing $$$ fast.
If it's truly over 185lbs my order will be canceled also. Every new video on this bike makes me wanna cancel my order even more. Looks like I'll be ordering another mx5
@@adrenaholic1Soyboy 🤣🤣
Chain slapping deal breaker 😅 hilarious.
The chain slapping is definitely just because it’s a pre production model. Surronsters video had zero chain slapping
Why didnt you tighten the chain😂
Its supposed to be that loose
It wasn't tightenable, links needed to be removed
@@Jajeweet no its not lol
@@JohnHicksFilm i bet it's been stretched out beyond its life span being demo'd by every youtuber in the past month. Surprised they gave it to you like that.
@@lithiumbizkit need room for the suspension to be able to move through the entire travel
sounds more like the chain is sliding on the sprockets because its so loose. that sprocket is probably fckd already anyways lol
Looks like a lot of fun!! Crazy speeds though that's gonna get someone in trouble!😲
It’s only illegal if you get caught 😂 (for legal reasons this is a joke)
2 of the buildings in this video @ 12:57 on the upper right hand corner, I helped build those 2 towers. Ran a lot of electrical in those buildings
From what I saw on the video, both passes briefly hit top speed of 106kph=65.865 mph(65.865346377 exactly) Pretty awesome considering what it is. Ridden bikes before that hit 130+. Seems that would be plenty enough speed to get around town on, but maybe not quite enough for freeway. Thanks for the great videos, John!
65 is definitely enough for the freeway
Feining for more videos of this thing, glad a new one dropped😂
1 kmh = .621 mph. 100 kmh = 62 mph.
It goes 62 mph ?
I dont think thats the chain slapping im pretty sure thats the chain skipping teeth on the sprocket bc its so loose
More of this bike on the channel when you get yours , hicks! Shii CRAZY🔥
If you had to choose one bike, would you choose the ultrabee or altis? Thinking of getting the ultrabee as it is a proven bike, but this is tempting
These new releases always have problems that these youtubers dont really talk about. Ultrabee probably is a less risky buy.
Can you cover or create a list of where the bikes are made what country?
90 sumn percent will be China. Parts wise, assembly might be different
Chinia
Wow loved the speed you puled of by this iconic bridges at full speed
I don't know which e-bike I will be getting. But I enjoy watching you review them 23:41
That chain is skipping teeth, not slapping.
that chain slack was scary lol but love the review altis is fire
Should try a stark varg
That tunnel was where surronster tested his gas bike
That's not chain slap, it's skipping teeth on the sprocket
Isn’t that more concerning?
@mreverything7975 yes
@@mreverything7975no, because chain tension should have been addressed before riding. Literally takes a few minutes
Good luck to the people who pre ordered one, I can only hope they fix all the problems. That tiny dirt bike seat doesn't look like a good time 😂 E Ride Pro SR with it's larger seat is more my Style.
I would ride street but also bayou would be my go to riding
Lowkey about to make some totinos pizza rolls and enjoy these 48mins 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This video should be titled "Chainslap!"
The brakes sound horrible.
It's brand new Karen
Another interesting video, best part is when you’re laughing with delight! Be safe 🙏
The suspension is soooo much quieter on the Throne Serpent especially descending stairs.
Bought one of your bikes back in 2017 lasted until 2021 great bike almost had the 180's down gear and center sprocket broke after all those years of riding had great time with it had it fixed a couple times, I think the first time I fixed it I messed it up ended up buying a bike off ebay too small to use so I bought a mountain bike from the store going great
That bike is HAWT. Love the red!
Exactly the review I was looking for
That’s the chain not being able to grip onto the teeth of the sprocket. You’re just eating the sprocket and chain up at this point.
203 pounds is wild
I wouldnt want to be going 65 on a paper bike.
@@hustlasstory7611 a CRF450 is 244 lbs and thats a 4 stroke so idk why people are saying its light as shit its pretty normal nothing wrong with its weight
@@Autoblox0it’s the kids that can’t handle the weight
@@Autoblox0its like half the size as a 450 but almost the same weight. It is a little on the heavy side. Literally Same weight as ultra bee which is way bigger
I want one of these but do they all come with lose chain like that????
Lol, no. And if it does come like that or get loose over time (totally normal on any bike) you can and should definitely tighten it (and its easy, wo not sure why he didnt do that asap)
I got the new 2024 surron light bee x bike I weigh 265 and im 6 feet tall I go max speed is 51 MPH!!! IS THAT PRETTY G00D?
Now this is the only ebike I would ditch for my Kent Hardtail. Great content
You said what Hicks? That you’re giving this 1 away too? 😁
🤫right here bro! The both🤫 all jokes aside!… love the content & your feedback on everything!🙏🏼
One of the main reasons that this is better than the Eride is that the Eride is old technology because it still uses the jack shaft and belt drive. The Talaria and this bike do not. Also, it seems that you have been around these bikes long enough that you would know how to tighten the chain in a few minutes???
Yes...just like the other comments. The chain is skipping teeth, to lose. Will need a new sprocket and maybe chain and take out the slack. It's a wild little bike.
its your polarized lenses preventing you from seeing the display. Pilots dont wear polarized for this reason.
As a motorcyclist that chain lash is making me wince, cool vid as always John.
Great vid great bike ToP JoB Mister Hicks 👌🏻💯
You could probably take a chain link out of that by now. Too funny! lol
I would have had a test ride on the final product before purchasing. Chain slap and poor seating could be a major problem if not addressed.
When john mentioned throne serpent bike we still have not seen that bike yet, only new thing shown was the scooter he had so guess we will soon see the throne serpent soon. the lcd on this bike does not have a category titled games like snake or cards lol. the company might give you a surprise return the one you borrowed and gift is new one in post coming in few days with money refunded you spent on it. bike heavy so it dont fly away at top speed.
10:42 HOPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at 105mph
105 Kmh= 65 mph
@@edgurash834 crusher of dreams!!!!!
It was in kmh
@@OfficialMonk69 duh!!!!! there's no Easter Bunny either.
@@alphapred actually 😮😮😮😮
Why don’t you tighten the chain? There’s no way they meant to leave that chain loose like that.
All SurRon’s clone are not Ebike by category , they are eMoto- off-road motorcycles not street legal until required modifications to be street legal added . These bikes
Must be registered and insured as same as motorcycles to legally ride on public roads.
Ebike is a motorized bicycle with 750W motor power or less and no more then max speed of 20-28MPH depending of the state regulations and must be operated by pedals with electric motor assist.
If Ebike have more then 750W and speed more then 20-28MPH but not exceed 45mph is considered as Moped ( motorized bicycle operated by motor and/or pedals ) or Low Speed motorcycle -Motor Driven Cycle ,scooters and motorcycles with less then 5 brake horse power and required registration and license plates
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Kings In Cali 👊🏾🎤🏁⚡️
speed is mph or kmh? btw that maniac laugh was amazing 23:35
You should just tighten the chain if you can if you have the tools, I’m sure you do, but you should tighten the chain. The driver train is the same as a bicycle and a motorcycle. It basically needs a chain with some resistance. They all work like that so technically that chain just needs to be tight and there’s nothing different with this bike to all the other E bikes that also need their chains to be have a little tension
It's the same size as a 85cc motocross bike the modelled it off that size platform and it's probably the same speed as that too
Man the speed is crazy on that bike
You are my favourite TH-camr
I say the reason they have that chain like that is too keep u from riding wheels because rite at the power band
The idea of "Our team won! Let's destroy the city!" is so American 😂😂😂
dam the chain slapping man that's like will smith slap lol!!!!
I have a question what helmet do you use and were can I buy it thanks too.
This bike is almost 6,000 and they are doing pre-orders 😎🔥
I have one on order for city riding. Hopefully the hype leads to supporting mods because I’m worried I’ll be too tall for it
I order one and I am 6'6". Im probably going to look ridiculous, but I don't care. I desperately need this in my collection.
This 😂will definitely be my street warrior lol
A bike this small topping 200lb is wild lol
The battery can account for the weight I had a zero dsr dual sport and that bike was 500lb
Love your maniac laughs!
Flaws:
Squeaky front brake
Horrendous chain slap
Weight
No side-stand
Display not very readable.
Mostly fixable.
PEVs must be under 132 lb (60 kg) where I am. 200 lb? That is a bit crazy.
"🤲🤷🏼♂️🙏🤲🤷🏼♂️🙏🤲🤷🏼♂️🙏" 😂🔥
John, please put on some body armor(gear) and mirrors on the e-bikes that reach 60mph+
Could a 13yr 5’4 fit on this bike?
youre cooked
@ lol
@@drivingtoadYou be fine just don’t push your limits
@@scum6354 it’s not like I can afford it anyways😭
is the sigma suitable for short riders like 5'5"?
yo bro, r u gonna do a vid on the e ride pro sr?
@johnhicks, no bike now, experienced motorcycle rider. If you only got one bike you taking this or the ultra bee?
Really depends on your height, for me honestly either I would enjoy!
These are sweet but I still want a stark lol
Damn that thing goes 106 Mph. That's crazy.
It's not mph it's kph you need to convert it 😂
THANK YOU FOR THE WEIGHT COMPARISON!!!!!
nah 96 volts is wildd
Dayummmm 105mph is fucking insane yooo for that price as well compared to other bikes 🔥💪
not mph
@@Acerezsoh 😂 dam that hoe still seem fast af 💨
What was that strava app?
Noooo I thought this was the stark varg 😂😂
Not an bike, no pedals. Battery dies you push it. It's an electric motorcycle.
That was fun!
J H outside MOBBING 😳
Wheres john...? No video in a month?
How come they do not use dual discs on the front? specially for a bike that can do between 65-70.. that single disc i assume will have some serious fade in an emergency situation. None the less thats a sick bike!!
Do Honda dirt bikes use dual disk brakes? Why would you want or need that on a dirtbike.
@ that’s a good point. I guess I was thinking more about street bikes. But even most or some of those have single discs. Oops guess this comment is stupid.
Just pre ordered 2 of them.
god leee what job do you have???
yo on tho wheelies you have to compress the front shock to but the bike to lift for you a lot of people are like once you get to 40% its like im posible to pick the bike up but thATS NOT TRUE most of the people who do a lot of wheelies dont really now of to get into the lift proper
These bikes are super cool but I'm just worried about getting flats and trying to get it home. You will need. Pickup truck to transport this.
We miss the mountain bike videos man 😢
A little mayhem from the Dodgers winning World Series last night. Did you see anything John??
This bike will need some work after all the youtuber abuse
Review the storm bee 🐝
bruh the name of it kills it for me tho, whats with these goofy terms i thought they were just internet jokes lmao
any updates on this bike yet I can't buy it anywhere man not even voro motors has it now I had to ask help on there website is no good.
When you going to open up a E-Bike/Scooter Shop my guy?
The eride battery is almost that heavy...Lol
lol the dodgers fans partied so hard they burned a bus in echo park
Im waiting for that sr but i almost bought ts