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How to Set Extra Bass Feature Yamaha AVENTAGE AV Receivers

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  • If you own a Yamaha AVENTAGE AV receiver and want to know what the "Extra Bass" feature does and how you should set it, watch this video! Not only do I explain this setting but I show you with precise measurements what it actually does. In order to get the very best bass response from your home theater system, you'll want to follow the set up advice given herein.
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  • @DwightPouer
    @DwightPouer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I totally had my receiver set wrong. Thanks for the video. I’ve had this yamaha for over a decade, and I never adjusted it correctly because I don’t have a clue about this tech stuff. After watching your video, it’s like having a brand new surround stereo system. This is incredible. Thanks

  • @roscomonk
    @roscomonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi I received my RXA6A and set it up yesterday WOW. I first set the speaker system up manually, I set up my Golden Ears Triton 2+ floor standers to large and frequency cross over to 80Hz. But when I ran the YPAO, the system changed my speakers to small and changed the frequency to120 Hz? ? and yes I had my bass set up with extra bass which I have now turned off. So far very impressed, I have now removed my near new Cambridge CXA81 out of the system and will probably sell it. THOSE WHO SAY YOU CANT GET HIGH PERFORMANCE AUDIO OUT OF AN AVR NEED TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK. This receiver certainly satisfies my audio appetite.

  • @normansoh
    @normansoh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Gene. I had used Extra Bass feature on my old Yamah RXV677 receiver.. But since your previous video relating to Pure Direct, my setup with two channel stereo with subwoofer now involves sending music via external DAC and Phono stage to analogue inputs on the receiver, turning on Pure Direct and connecting a REL T7x subwoofer via high level Neutrik Speakon interconnect cable (hence using my receiver as a power amp only in this setup).. Stereo music is sounding so pure to my ears!!

  • @Rockhurst22
    @Rockhurst22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh wow, I'd be very curious what the Denon products do in comparison and you're the only one that will be able to determine that haha. Thank you.

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Denon "LFE+Main" does it correctly and doesn't do the weird bass boost when the mains are set to small.

  • @leiflofholm712
    @leiflofholm712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can access a web-interface in the receiver by typing the IP-address followed by /setup/. This is a really easy way to make changes on the fly without having to bother with the onscreen GUI. This works for a lot of Yamaha receivers. And no, no problem with the extra bass setting, got the hang of it way back when setting up a (then) brand new RX-V2600.

    • @sg1ds919
      @sg1ds919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My IP address plus setup?

  • @stephenmcgauley
    @stephenmcgauley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Happy to see the aventage getting some love. I did NOT have mine set to small and on. But I am now going to play with setting them up as large with the extra bass on :). Thanks gene. Look forward to the PEQ part cus this is where I need help.

  • @shemsureshot
    @shemsureshot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the A6A and am incorrectly using extra bass. I just assumed the extra bass did something different to what you explained. I’ll correct it when I next turn it on and see if I notice anything. Thank you.

  • @mkhaudio
    @mkhaudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gene . this is from Yamaha RX-V2085 : Extra Bass (Extra Bass)
    Enables/disables Extra Bass. When Extra Bass is enabled, you can enjoy enhanced bass
    sounds, regardless of the size of the front speakers and the presence or absence of the
    subwoofer.

  • @doc666ify
    @doc666ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have yamaha receivers for years and i totally agree with you. I have tower speakers but set them to small i keep the extra bass feature off otherwise the bass sounds like its fighting with speakers.

  • @AlexGtheDon
    @AlexGtheDon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an Aventage rx-a760 receiver, and I had some time exploring this without really having any support, and I immediately noticed that the “large” speaker setting would have the sub off on anything other than using Atmos or surround in general.
    I wound up having to set my speakers to small (B&W CC6 center and DM601’s (for all other speakers) Despite the receiver picking them up as large speakers when I used the Yamaha YPAO.
    It was frustrating, but I finally realized in order to use my subs (2) M&K 75ii 12”s, I had to set them all to small. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @FormMutaed
    @FormMutaed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, awesome explanation. I have listened and be my guest, I heard the difference and i like it. From now on, music large 80 extra bass on, movies small 120. Thanks Gene.

  • @alexgarza6195
    @alexgarza6195 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Gene, with a the confusion on the internet you clearly was spot-on my Avr RXA4A sounds wonderful. Great work Gene,

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is crazy. I thought Extra Bass enabled the subwoofer in Straight 2ch output. WHOA. I had no clue! I've had it on this WHOLE TIME on MULTIPLE receivers.

  • @mcarr416ix
    @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a great video and very informative. I know it's a bit older but just wanted to leave a quick note. I'm only running smaller bookshelves (B&W) on an older Yamaha receiver, but I found this info very interesting. I've had the speakers set to small and crossover set to 80hz for a while. Decided to give this a try and set the speakers to large with extra bass ON, wow, very noticeable difference. Definitely not full range capable speakers, but I really prefer the "fullness" of the sound like this. I also only have a single smaller SVS subwoofer so the extra bass up front really helps with blending the low frequencies into the sound stage. I'm not sure how graphs would measure this but I really like this sound, especially at mid to lower volumes. I also live in a condo so there's no reference levels happening here by any means, and this sounds great at my listening level. Thanks Gene.

  • @KelvinAung95
    @KelvinAung95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another issue I was running into was when I use the YPAO to optimize it, for some reason it always sets my sub to -10db and I don’t understand why. For right now I just have to manually turn it back up to 0 just so I can hear the subwoofer and the subwoofer can do subwoofer things. If not you can clearly hear its not doing anything.
    But this video did answer why my sub was on sometimes and wasn’t at other times. Thought my sub was going out.
    I had the Sony receiver before and it seemed easier to use. At least for the optimization part. Still learning this receiver.

  • @Musicman369
    @Musicman369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Aventage Rxa 3050, when I set my mains to large I couldnt get hardly any bass out of my sub, so I changed to small then it worked well. But I also went into the setting and send all the low signal to the sub. ( 80hrz) So all my mains play highs, mids it sounds great. ( Klipsch rp 280s).
    Figured let the sub handle all low so mains focus on highs & mids on a 2way speaker. Setting the speakers took a time playing with tow in & so on, now great center imaging, I swear sometimes I get up to make sure my center speaker is off and it is but it sounds like it is playing. Wow,
    I havent found the boosted bass but hearing your video on it Im glad I didnt. Specially after seeing the graph you put up, what a mess in measuements. 😱
    I like your channel because its mostly scienced based, not subjective opinion based. Thxs

  • @stirl22
    @stirl22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I have the RX-A2A and yes, I stumbled across this by accident. I had extra bass on and front towers set to small (Mission LX6 MK2) and extra bass on, I found I was over compensating with my SVS SB1000 PRO settings, I tried changing the fronts to large and BOOM!! Back down to normal sub settings and now it sings! (Also running Tibo pa150 power amps)
    Paul. Nottingham. England 🇬🇧

    • @ian.new.life.
      @ian.new.life. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im from sheffield and thinking of getting the a6a its a lot to spend though

    • @stirl22
      @stirl22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ian.new.life. Richer sounds knocked £150 off for me £750 from £900.

  • @parabellum4221
    @parabellum4221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting!! I have a Yamaha AVR RXA4A paired with front Klipsch Towers. I just enabled the Extra Bass along with another setting in the same menu for Clarity, and I found that when I turned the front speakers to LARGE, the speakers lost Bass and gained Highs. When I turned the same front speakers to SMALL, the extra Bass is heard and felt and the Highs are blended in very nice. I kept the front speakers as SMALL as I can definitely hear and feel the difference as opposed to setting them to LARGE. I tried this back and forth and even the Warden (Wife) approved. I like Big Bass and I cannot Lie!

    • @whoofman2013
      @whoofman2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am having the same results with my Klipsch Towers and my Yamaha RX-V479. Music sounds much better with towers set to small and Extra Bass turned on. It seems to tame the highs a bit to a level I enjoy and the bass sounds good to me. It's odd that people think this is wrong as Yamaha clearly states in their manual that Extra Bass offers enhanced low-frequency response even with small speakers.

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whoofman2013 nobody is saying it's "wrong", the video is just showing you what it does to the frequency response. If you like how it sounds with the speakers set to small and extra bass on, use it. Audiophiles like to target a specific frequency response but this isn't always the most appealing sound to everyone. Enjoy your speakers how they sound best to you.

    • @TheFINZFAN
      @TheFINZFAN หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mcarr416ix Yes, he did say it was wrong and could do damage to the speakers.

  • @audiem2924
    @audiem2924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks. After months of experimenting I have found that to be my ideal setting for music, Mains set to large 80hz Extra Bass. Nice to see it confirmed with the graphs. I look forward to seeing your PEQ findings. For music I use Front PEQ

    • @TurboGuy979
      @TurboGuy979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’re setting your mains to large you’re negating the crossover, they are getting full bandwidth. Crossover is only engaged when set to small, i.e. you can’t set to large AND use crossover settings.

    • @Olrosse
      @Olrosse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TurboGuy979 i would imagine it's an LFE crossover, so basically just a lowpass for the sub and not for the mains

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TurboGuy979 I know this is an older comment, but he's telling you in the video how the extra bass toggle on the receiver functions. When you have your main speakers set to large they are receiving full bandwidth, but with extra bass turn ON and the cross over set at 80hz, the frequencies 80hz and below are now being sent your mains AND your subwoofer.

  • @thomasferguson139
    @thomasferguson139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI for some of the older Yamaha receivers like the 2070 it's the "option button" that brings the extra bass option up

  • @ralphgalbraith4142
    @ralphgalbraith4142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a technology genius actually My technology knowledge is basically zero. But this was educational because I am thinking of setting up my own theater/music system in my living room. And you break it down too simplify things very much appreciate it. And I will be a full-time subscriber. Once again thank you.

  • @rolandw181
    @rolandw181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Gene, I totally agree, Extra Bass was not necessary for my Topline Aventages (RX-A3080/3060/3050) since it led to a boomy bass. On the other hand, I have a specific case where it helps: I am driving an 2 way system (4 inch in closed cabinet) in my bathroom with the lower end RX-A660. Speakers are lacking of bass from about 130 Hz and lower and there is no place for a subwoofer. Thus I am using high pass for the small speakers, subwoofer 'on' (though there is no subwoofer connected, but you cannot set main speakers to large without subwoofer) and extra bass 'on'. This kind of compensates the lack of bass. Furthermore 4 inches are protected by a 40 Hz filter which acts like a kind of subsonic filter. Ok, it's not a real audiophile sond in my bathroom, but fun and a much more linear frequency curve than withour extra bass (I should check it with REW).
    Looking forward to seeing the results of RX-A6A measurements, especially about the Low Frequency Mode. I cannot believe what Phil Shea told aboout it: LFM just identifies problematic modes and consumers will have to correct it themselves with REW equipment and PEQ?? That's not user friendly and no fully automatic YPAO.
    Regards, Roland

  • @JReilly83881
    @JReilly83881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I have the Adventage RX-A3080. I admit I have ran extra bass with my right and left RBH towers set to small for music. I have to say I enjoy music the most in Yamahas Pure Direct mode.

  • @tobywenzel8452
    @tobywenzel8452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad I came across this video. I have a RX-A3080 and music just didn't sound good from my front Kef towers. My previous Denon was pretty easy to set up with main+subwoofer, but the Yamaha setup doesn't clearly explain this and it was driving me crazy. I had played with the extra bass feature, but thought it was a simple "loudness" button because it sounded muddy. Now I understand and just have to run through YPAO again. Thanks for the help!

    • @edwardsanchez3708
      @edwardsanchez3708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What settings do you have for your parametric equipment freq? Q? Gain? I have always found the settings fidgety and not as satisfactory as my 15-year-old denon, that has a way easier classic eq to deal with

  • @rainman3269
    @rainman3269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for all the work you do to make our listening experience so much better and easy to setup ... Cheers Gene

  • @marct9587
    @marct9587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back to the old "loudness" button that audio receivers used to have back in the day?! It seems we've come full circle.

    • @VCULoneWolf
      @VCULoneWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loudness boosts more frequencies than just bass.

    • @marct9587
      @marct9587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VCULoneWolf Yeah, I know that. But it seems similar.

  • @mrsittingmongoose
    @mrsittingmongoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, can you please be sure you cover the bass management of ypao and that bass mode of ypao in your review? That’s a very interesting topic to me.

  • @stephenfrancisvoros382
    @stephenfrancisvoros382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I own a 3070 and have never used Extra Base, I've had no need to.
    Looking forward to your take on PEQ.

  • @fenogo94
    @fenogo94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muito bom esses gráficos.
    Em alguns testes realizados com Yamaha anterior e no atual, o Extra BASS deixava o som muito ruim com caixas pequenas!
    Explicado agora com essa análise dos gráficos,

  • @jlg23us
    @jlg23us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stumbled across this when going from auto decoder to 2 channel and my subs didn't turn on.. thought sub gain threshold was being factor in processor, and not enough voltage for turn on.. definitely sounds better in my case from using large front with extra bass on

  • @TheJimi74
    @TheJimi74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video! You can also find the extra bass option in the app.

  • @imanosmand1517
    @imanosmand1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the informations Sir...i've already turned off that 'extra bass' after listening to your advise...god bless..🙏

  • @VGiena
    @VGiena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lets go gene, im waiting on your measurements to decide which AVR to purchase.
    And support gene and audioholics our CDC for audio! 👊🥼🩺🔊🎶😊

  • @timoxx4
    @timoxx4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow. Yes i have the A3070 and have the extra bass set to ON with all other speakers set to small. I have 4 subwoofers, one in each corner. And when i run REW i get a similar response to your measured graph with a dip at about 25-30hz and a peak at about 60hz. I thought it was just my room doing it and just tried to EQ as best i could after time alignment and put up with it. Now i need to go measure my subs again and turn that feature off.

  • @alexgarza6195
    @alexgarza6195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Gene li had my yamaha set to extra bass after watching the vedio an madee the change now I Love it my duel bass, now sounds fan fantastic

  • @stevemott4603
    @stevemott4603 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always very informative. I have front towers set to large and all others small. I did activate extra bass.

  • @mattgiunt
    @mattgiunt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait for your Yamaha PEQ video. Ive had two Yamaha Avantage receivers over the years and I just cant figure it out.

  • @HardRockinRed
    @HardRockinRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the RX-A3070 with an Emotiva A3 on the front stage. I have been using Extra Bass for years with my speakers set to small. I will turn it off tonight and see if the sound is less boomy.

  • @mclement052164
    @mclement052164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an Aventage RXA860. Hoping this knowledge equally applies as well to my receiver.

  • @craigweidenheimer9441
    @craigweidenheimer9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nailed it! So odd that they have the small/large speaker conflict; and why use the term "extra bass" when what you are looking to do is engage the Sub in stereo? I would think most setups would want the sub engaged regardless of speaker size and source. If you have an imbalance in an exceptional case you can always turn the sub off at worst.

  • @JAYWHITEHITHARD
    @JAYWHITEHITHARD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I had extra bass turned on while speakers was set to small at 80hz😬 And after your video i turned it off immediately👍🏻

  • @josephcangelosi4414
    @josephcangelosi4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gene, I have the 3080 set with speakers set to small as you recomend and use Extra Bass only when listening to older vinyl records or CDs that are bass anemic. They sound much better with Extra Bass on (all speaker on). Sometimes I also add the Enhancer to further improve the anemic bass. So better advise Yamaha to leave this function as is. Thanks! Joe C.

  • @raphaelmeillat8527
    @raphaelmeillat8527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video Gene. Very useful and insightful! Thanks for your hard work! Still trying to decide between Anthem MRX 1140 and Yamaha RX A8A. Waiting for your A6A review to help me decide! Cheers from France

    • @wild291
      @wild291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      J'ai lu sur un forum anglais qu'il y a des problèmes techniques avec les MRX Anthem au niveau de la reconnaissance du signal audio HDMI et que tu peux attendre longtemps pour avoir une réponse de leur part. Il y avait un gars qui attendait depuis 10 jours une réponse.J'étais intéressé par le 540 mais après ce que j'ai lu j'attends de voir les tests des Yam où j'irai sur du Marantz.Remarque j'ai lu aussi sur Son-video qu'il y a des problèmes avec l'eArc des derniers Yamaha.

    • @raphaelmeillat8527
      @raphaelmeillat8527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wild291 merci. C'est chiant en ce moment entre les prix qui grimpent, les commandes en attente, les problèmes de "hand shake" hdmi entre TV et AVR, le 8K problématique, etc... On a connu des temps plus simples !

    • @mohammedisaa9952
      @mohammedisaa9952 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is his comment in english......
      "I read on an English forum that there are technical problems with the MRX Anthem in terms of recognizing the HDMI audio signal and that you can wait a long time to get an answer from them. There was a guy who had been waiting for 10 days for an answer. I was interested in the 540 but after what I read I am waiting to see the Yam tests where I will go on Marantz. Note I read also on Son-video that there are problems with the eArc of the latest Yamahas."......
      Dont like the sound of that.......

    • @mohammedisaa9952
      @mohammedisaa9952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here is the reply to the comment...
      "THANKS. It's boring at the moment between rising prices, pending orders, hdmi "hand shake" problems between TV and AVR, problematic 8K, etc... We've seen simpler times!".....
      Seems like the french are as sick of this faulty "new" technology as we all are....

  • @thelonewolf666
    @thelonewolf666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i leave extra bass on 100% of the time as its a great improvement in sound

    • @TheJimi74
      @TheJimi74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree..but i am not yet using a subwoofer...

  • @andrewskaterrr
    @andrewskaterrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After seeing the tear down with you and the Yamaha rep, I was very impressed and it would be at the top of my list of it weren’t for one thing…Dirac. If they had Dirac I’d be getting the RX-A8A. But I also wish it had 13.2 as I want front wides.

    • @mrsittingmongoose
      @mrsittingmongoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coming from a Marantz 7011 with audessy xt32, I think my a8a actually did a much better job with ypao. Everything integrated better, there is better positioning and sound direction, and I didn’t have to mess with levels as much. This is with a 7.2.2 setup, ymmv

  • @jaquestraw1
    @jaquestraw1 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad I saw this vid! I have an RX-A4A coming tomorrow and I could have easily missed this on initial setup!

    • @alexgarza6195
      @alexgarza6195 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Gene what a great vedio

  • @iraweiss517
    @iraweiss517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an RX-A3080 and Definitive Technology BP-2004TL speakers. As the speakers have built in subs I had extra bass set to on.

    • @iraweiss517
      @iraweiss517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also set to Large.

  • @heathatkins2837
    @heathatkins2837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. I think I'm about to go with another brand. It's so hard to find info about settings on this Yamaha. Just seems the sub output is lacking bad on the low end

  • @chriswilson1853
    @chriswilson1853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been doing a sort of halfway house. I set my fronts to small, with crossover at 40Hz, which is about as low as the speakers go anyway. I seem to get better sound that way. They are driven through an active crossover though, which most people's speakers won't be I guess, and as a result they seem to do 40-80Hz better than my sub, perhaps because there are two of them!

  • @krjsports2163
    @krjsports2163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video Gene! You just helped me make a huge improvement to my system. In fact, I’m enjoying it so much I can’t turn it off 😂
    Large fronts with extra bass toggled on. Wow!

  • @Novilicious
    @Novilicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing us the PEQ on the next video Gene 🧬 ! I’m a big fan of running speakers full range, and running subs on top. I have 5200 pre pro so would love to hear your opinion on the pros and cons of running small vs large speaker setting with PEQ

  • @fredrikskonstrand3663
    @fredrikskonstrand3663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I set main 40hz and subs in lLFE mode , Sounds better then fullrange on my big front speakers and use extra bass , but will test more settings on my A8A..

  • @davidrivera2165
    @davidrivera2165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great heads up Gene. I've set up my Yamaha for small on all channels, but cross over at 40 hz on mains ( Deftech ST-L towers), 60 for center, 80 hz for sorround and heighr channels. I dont feed LFE to the built in 10" subs in the Deftechs, just to my two SVS sb13. (crossover at 45 hz, with in room gain 31 hz). I have an additional 10" Deftech sub supercube that I feed LFE at 80 hz for two channel + sub. It works great. I love Yamaha have used them for over 20 years, far more musical and accurate than any Denon or Marantz. Thanks Gene

    • @Harald_Reindl
      @Harald_Reindl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try 60 Hz and 100 Hz for surround speakers - you will be impressed

    • @dr.anthonyforgione4253
      @dr.anthonyforgione4253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mm, Yamaha generally, has a sound signature that’s lighter in bass, but more emphasis on highs/treble.
      Denon and Marantz emphasize bass more than Yamaha, yet are still clear in the highs.
      It’s about sound preference of course.
      Yamaha has always sounded almost sibilant to me,
      and I prefer a warmer sound, with more muscular,
      more substantial and solid bass,
      so I prefer the Denon/Marantz sound signature.
      Build quality is very good in all 3.
      Cheers.

  • @wild291
    @wild291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let say you have tower speakers in front and bookshelfs for the rest,you should be able to use your front sprks in small and the rest in large with the extra bass Yamaha feature without problem imo.don't know if i'm clear.

  • @gteran76
    @gteran76 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is even more amazing to me is that the manual says "you can enjoy sufficient bass sounds,
    regardless of the size of the front speakers and the presence or absence of the subwoofer" which makes me believe the ideal scenario is to turn that on when you DON"T have large speakers... and based on my few days playing with the A6A and now confirming with this video when you have set the speakers to "small" and have a sub working the "extra Bass" option makes it WORSE...

  • @bearzlla
    @bearzlla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Gene, I've been using Aventage receivers for years and never knew of this feature - going to use it going forward!

    • @MovieViking
      @MovieViking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Measurements with REW are highly recommended!

  • @JoshuaDircks
    @JoshuaDircks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. Just got the A4A set up and was wondering about this feature.

  • @frankv7774
    @frankv7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Yamaha RX A880 with Elac debut towers and two Definitive Technology subs. When I set speakers to large the ability to set the crossover on the mains turns off... anyone know why? Great video my assumption was you should always have mains set to small when using a sub....thanks.

    • @TurboGuy979
      @TurboGuy979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’re setting your mains to large you’re negating the crossover, they are getting full bandwidth. Crossover is only engaged when set to small, i.e. you can’t set to large AND use crossover settings.

  • @MrMaxi3140
    @MrMaxi3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Gene, and can't wait for your PEQ for my Yami RX-A3080. Thank you for all you do for us.

  • @jon8888888
    @jon8888888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for such factual knowledge. I shall be double checking my a6a settings and let you know.

  • @mariocamou8814
    @mariocamou8814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would the Yamaha TSR-700 have this same settings on the extra bass feature while main speakers are set to small? Thx in advancr

  • @KillerSneak
    @KillerSneak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always nice to see a new vid being released ❤️

  • @Aragorn62
    @Aragorn62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video from Gene! Waiting on my new Yamaha RX-A8A to arrive 🙏

  • @Laissez_Faire
    @Laissez_Faire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. Now I know how to send the low end to my sub when my stereo speakers are set to large 👍

  • @dpdp006
    @dpdp006 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Yamaha 4850 and I have small lrc speakers and a sub - when i kickin this Extra Base i loose clearity of sound meaning some freq is missed it seem very strange sound.
    May be this explains it and yes i have set speakers to small as they r tiny

  • @wayneross9723
    @wayneross9723 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great advice gene

  • @rickjack78
    @rickjack78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I misunderstood this advice the first time and started turning on extra bass with my speakers set on small with a 60hz crossover. 80hz sounded too high, so I checked with the speaker and sub manufacturers and they both recommend 60hz for my speakers.
    I thought it sounded better with fuller bass. It was perhaps slightly too much bass with bass heavy tracks, but I think better than having it off for my large room for 2-ch music. It was also too nasty bassy setting my speakers to large and using extra bass.
    For HT 5-ch use it sounds like garbage with extra bass turned on.
    This is with the B&W 704 S2 speakers and 2 SP2000 SVS subs. I think I need larger 2-ch speakers for my space.
    But, for a large room that setting helps.

    • @rickjack78
      @rickjack78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Update: I retried my speakers set to large with a 60hz crossover for the extra bass setting and it sounds fine.
      Question: will this setup hurt my 5-ch HT listening?

  • @prayingmantiskung-fu2037
    @prayingmantiskung-fu2037 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a little confusion you mentioned when you had your main set to large you still used an 80hz crossover? Being set to large means full bandwidth to the main channels. Or does that mean that you can have a normal bass configuration all small 80hz crossover for the subwoofers and then if you’re watching a movie you use it that way but then when you want to listen to music switch the extra bass on.

  • @KrzysztofPabich
    @KrzysztofPabich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time such a comprehensive and sensible explanation of Extra Bass feature. Thank you!
    Would you consider similarly detailed video on differences between current receivers lineup and the previous one? I have RX-V2085 and I love it, and I wonder what are the real changes in comparable capabilities in the new series of Yamaha receivers (skipping the exclusive HDMI 8k features, as honestly I'm not even interested in them).

    • @mohammedisaa9952
      @mohammedisaa9952 ปีที่แล้ว

      How far can the human eye distinguish between 4k and 8k.....
      Or is it all about .... "ive got a 64k system and a 200 inch monitor that cost more than the whole of south america put together"......??????

  • @freakin13guy
    @freakin13guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the “Subwoofer Phase” setting please?.. should this be set to (Normal) or (Reverse?)

  • @SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike
    @SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just switched extra bass this morning to "see" what would happen (columns set to large, and no subwoofer). I liiiiiike it a lot. It basically allows me to have more bass at a lower volume (use to crank up the volume to get the space filled with more bass, but no need for that with extra bass). Could it be placebo effect, maybe, but it sounds good with it

  • @nativochileno7091
    @nativochileno7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EXCELENTE TRABAJO
    MUCHAS GRACIAS
    UN FUERTE ABRAZO DESDE SANTIAGO DE CHILE

  • @SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike
    @SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I assume looking at the full range in main speakers is what you want when using high line on a REL Subwoofer as you want the sub to receive the the signal the speakers won’t be able to reproduce?

  • @degortarifitness5874
    @degortarifitness5874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this same principle and setup be applied to my old Advantage 3080?

  • @nothingtoseehere93
    @nothingtoseehere93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I have this set on if I have towers with two 8 inch woofers and I am using 7.2? I would like the extra bass from my towers instead of setting them to small

  • @felixlaboy1453
    @felixlaboy1453 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so happy you did this video

  • @itsdannyftw
    @itsdannyftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait if you ALREADY have a sub and your speakers are set to small, is it better to increase the volume on the sub versus enabling EXTRA BASS?

  • @josephfranzen5626
    @josephfranzen5626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant upload as usual Gene! I’ve been looking for info on Yamaha’s new line as you’ve delivered as usual Obi Wan.

  • @justoreinoso5494
    @justoreinoso5494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow! Thanks man!! I was going crazy about it. Excellent!!

  • @CharleyClose
    @CharleyClose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I'm wanting to get an A8A, however, I can't find one. Any suggestions?

  • @DerekBove
    @DerekBove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this. The entire time I've owned my A3070 I've been confused by the setting. Does it only impact the L/R channels? i.e. I could run the mains Large and the rest of the speakers small crossed over.

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes that is fine to do.

  • @cpa889900
    @cpa889900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, you make it sound like the speakers will be damaged if the extra bass and the small configuration is used together

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The upper bass boost it causes could be problematic for small speakers.

  • @rolandrohde
    @rolandrohde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, Extra Bass in Yamaha AVRs is extra confusion and definitely doesn't do what you think it does...I was very surprised when I measured the results with REW back in the day when I had the RX-A3080

  • @edwardsanchez3708
    @edwardsanchez3708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone have any recommended parametric EQ settings for the Yamaha Avantage???

  • @SwirlingDragonMist
    @SwirlingDragonMist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LoL that graph of extra bass+small, it looks so janky, but I can totally see their summation as being situationally cool. But in the modern age, if the sub isn’t carrying you down to 20hz, it’s really got an identity crisis as a midbass-thumper. This video really drilled right into the bass management, which is a core value for every brand, I like what they put together here, it seems very user accessible and easy to implement the way you want without hacking through the menu weeds to get to it. At first glance it even seems a little more velvety than Sound United’s, time will tell, but I’m stoked to see what other brands bring to the table with their bass management, especially Pioneer of which I’m a fan. I think I’ll wait on getting a Yamaha again, until they make a giant glowing orange…well I was goona say “cube” but I guess a receiver-shaped-box is probably more what I want to be glowing orange.

  • @barrydonald7277
    @barrydonald7277 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your speakes are on the ground
    all my speakers i put onto 2 milk crates to raise them standing height
    good celing height above lounges and people
    try it, raise the front lr
    side lr and rear lr
    large speakers
    on milk crates
    soundes better
    yipo

  • @toddswenson
    @toddswenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the short vids. Thanks.

  • @feeltheburntk9893
    @feeltheburntk9893 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the RX-V6A / TSR-700 also have this issue with the speakers set to small and extra bass enabled? I’m curious because I love my 5.1.2 setup and it sounds amazing in movies and atmos music but as soon as the next song plays in stereo it’s a complete let down that only my front channels play and not my subwoofers. My speakers are all set to small and I was hoping to kick some audio down to the subwoofer during 2ch playback

  • @WoLShiverify
    @WoLShiverify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gene, can you try extra bass small with crossover @ 60 and 40 Hz instead ?

  • @olivierluminais
    @olivierluminais 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On My YAMAHA RX-A1080, I have activated Extra Bass, but all my Speakers are Wide, I don't have a Bass box.
    On the other hand in Option then Volume Adjustment, I succeeded in forcing SubWoofer Trim to +3.5 dB via AV CONTROLER on Android, we can do it via the amplifier by activating the subwoofer output while increasing the Subwoofer option Trim at + 3.5dB, then in the Speakers menu we deactivate the Subwoofer output, then we record the SCENE Modes with the SubWooffer Trim option at +3.5 DB.
    The increase in bass on the Front Speakers and the Center speakers is punchy, even at low volume, like from -25 dB of Volume on the YAMAHA RX-A1080 amplifier.
    Note only do this if you are at least in 5.0 or 5.0.2 or 7.0, because if you are in 3.0 or less, with a Subwoofer Trim at +2.5 dB there is a risk that one of the bass speakers will hit the air gap.

  • @ninimaxx_heimkino
    @ninimaxx_heimkino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you shure that there was no setting aktive with small and extra bass on? i have many expirience with yamaha, and you could not found everything in the menu. For example: i´ve you made a YPAO measuremt: I see changes at the outputs even when i set the peq to "trough".
    So to be shure that there is a bug like this: please make a factory-reset and repeat the test. maybe the result is different.

  • @alexthesaxman6219
    @alexthesaxman6219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay so if my mains are large and the rest of my speakers are small, could I be getting that strange bass boost in my center and surrounds during multi channel output?

  • @wemetoffroad1498
    @wemetoffroad1498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    will the low pass of the sub be set to the same xover point when the mains are set to small or large and using extra bass?
    in other word can I choose to increase or decrease LPF even if they are set large. In your video the sub remains to 80hz

  • @James28R
    @James28R 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wonder what it does to the graph with speakers set to large and no subwoofer. As the description says more bass even without a sub. cheers for the vid

  • @GayleGrantDocGrant
    @GayleGrantDocGrant ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Focal Chorus 5 front towers..should this be set as 'small'? I also have Focal Dome's for surrounds and just purchased 4 ceiling/high speakers for atmos.. I'm running a Yamaha Aventage RX-A3040 receiver..thoughts? THANKS much!

  • @LoZioOscar
    @LoZioOscar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video TY I love Adventage, but I have a question, I have this speakers configuration: B&W - 3 FPM4 front and center and 2 FPM2 for rear. Is it correct setup LARGE the front and center? Ty

  • @XenogearsPS
    @XenogearsPS ปีที่แล้ว

    What about center channel? Should that be set too large or small? I have 6/5 inch bass drivers and on their website they say if they're that size then to leave them as large. I don't know though, because yamaha settings are weird compared to other av receivers.

  • @MovieViking
    @MovieViking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gene, thank you 🙏🏻 Most informative. Do you know if this is also the case with the RX-A3070 series?
    I never measured it with REW but I have tried setiing it on and concluded it sounded bad. My front Triangle speakers handles low frequencies poorly at high levels so they are set to small leaving the hard word to the subwoofers.

  • @JohnBog
    @JohnBog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the extra bass feature on non-aventage yamaha receivers?

  • @arisistible1
    @arisistible1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the “Main Speaker” include the center? I currently have FL+FR to large with extra bass and C+SR+SL+Atmos LR to small. Is that what you are describing here? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly thank you.