Thanks for this one. I also just commented in one of your video on doing bike conversions and said that my project bike is a 35 yr old Bridgestone hardtail MTB. I take it out on trails and load up with my camera gear so this power assist is just to help out my 70 yr old knees without breaking the bank. I’ll update when my project comes to fruition
I've had a fat tire ebike for 5 years and it handles great as long as you've got the tire pressure high. On road I run typically around 30 psi and it handles similar to a motorcycle, but once you get the pressure below 15 psi, which is great for trails and loose stuff, you can really start to feel the sidewall flex when turning and it's not fun to ride on asphalt, especially at high speed.
Frankly at "overpressures" the rolling resistance and handling on pavement is really not far off from regular MTBs, I was really shocked at how high I could get the average speed even on trips of more than 20 miles. Its only 15% less than my "normal" bikes. I regularly use my unpowered fatbike that has 4.8s when i go for mixed surface trips, its totally acceptable when on the pavement during transitions and so nice on the corrugated to hell and back dirt roads. I'm not much of a off-roader so my technical routes are always fairly tame so i can't speak on that aspect with authority. Also if there's really extreme surfaces its best to have a battery powered compressor on you to quickly adjust pressure.
I have a bosch gen 4 fatbike. I think it's great. On asphalt it's not the smoothest ride however since most tires have pretty aggressive tread patterns. Much smoother when riding offroad or on gravel roads. It's also awesome in the winter with studded tires. Riding on extremely slippery ice is like riding on gravel.
Absolutely… I’d say don’t get a fat bike if you life in perfectly paved flat lander city with no curbs, never plan on off road or adventure trails, don’t care about aggressive appearance…. Otherwise GET a fat tire bike 😂
I love how short and to the point some of these videos are. I put a Curry Electric bike kit with a 24 volt lead acid on to my Schwinn hybrid 21 years ago. I think it is time to revisit my interest in this! Subscribed!
Excellent! I'm getting ready to do a diy ebike and have several old bikes I am currently restoring for a refugee center. Thanks for the help in navigating this new world of ebikes!
I have a folding e-bike and I have almost 2000 miles on it It works great with no problems. There may be some folding bikes that would not work out as a home build however. The one I have was made to be electric.
What do you have , I need to buy an ebike ASAP and not sure what to buy , I don't need to travel with it as I'll be using it to ride on the road for exercise and everyday shopping trips , but I am just thinking that if something was to go wrong with it I have no way of getting it to a shop for repair ? You help appreciated 🙂
I find this short video amazingly helpful, though I'm planning to buy an ebike for my daily work commute. Just subbed to your channel. Great info you put out. Looking forward to more vids.
I have a bafang ultra on my fatbike just keep the 4" tires on it and got studded terene cake eaters for winter Just add a bit more psi to the tires for street and they feel normal After 2 weeks I sold my non fatbike it felt so unstable and the bar width was so much shorter I think that was the main issue
Ohh well, I just spend 2 hours looking for an ebike that fits in my trunk - foldable + fat tires ; ))) now you got me wondering ... I guess I ve to watch some of your videos to learn more about conversion and bafang motors. Thx a lot for your videos!!
Fat bikes with mid drives... They’re kicking on canal and river paths. Great in the woods and on mountains and hills too! I love the extra traction and confidence on rocky or shingly mountain and hill tracks (getting old... injuries don’t heal well). In my opinion, mid drive motors on fat bikes makes a lot of sense... a little help getting over the rolling resistance. 😊 also makes my Surly Pugsley towing a trailer a lot easier. Of my three bikes the ebike Pugsley is the most pleasurable to ride. Keep up with the good vids dude 👍
@@davidelliott5843 I agree! I have a BOB Ibex, Burley Coho and Burley Nomad. For narrow canal and river tow paths single wheel trailers rule! The Burley Coho is the only single wheel that fits perfectly behind the offset Pugsley. The Extrawheel Mate is another great option.
Johnny, thanks so much for your opinions. What you’re talking about makes perfect sense. I’m trying to decide what’s best for me, thanks to your vids I’m becoming educated on what’s what in ebikes.
i will say after riding my DIY fatbike for now 2 years as a commuter, after changing some things it has been great. im using thinner rims that make the tire profile more round so handling isnt too bad. thou i am 6'6" and 300lbs, so i feel better on it than most MTBs. its not for everyone but its not something that should be avoided completely. also u can do 3.5" tires (currently run 4in mammoths in back, and 3.5" vee speedsters in front). handles 35mph really well especially after swapping the front fork for a doublecrown rigid fork :D
@@kazhankazhanovych6895 more rigid, less flex under heavy braking or turning, better transmittion of road feel to the bars. But be aware double crowns can stress a cheap frame with low quality welds.
I second both of your opinions , with all due respect I love my full size fat bike , because it gets attention of the drivers on the road just because its huge , secondly I love my folding rad runner because its got 3.3 inch wide tires and i have taken it everywhere in my cars trunk and it can go places.
this is a very important review since I am not familiar with all bike designs. I almost bought a used folding e-bike since it looked like a quality bike, it would be easy to store/transport in my car without a bike rack (a quality bike rack is expensive), and the price for the ebike I saw for sale was reasonable. But I will be riding on roads with potholes and even dirt/gravel trails. So I will exclude those types. The fat bike I might consider because I am not using an bike for commuting and I have tall and heavy.
I converted a free-to-me full aluminum, with shocks front and back. It was far too late to realize I should have gotten something with disc brakes and somewhere to actually put the battery and controller. It seemed a perfect coincidence until I actually started to try and get everything to fit well.
I agree with the advice regarding folding electric bikes I have one which was store brought. The handle bar stem snapped while I was cycling which caused me too crash hurt a bit
I'm thinking about the model of bicycle to get for a conversion, specifically a 750w mid-drive per your recommendation. And I sort of came to the conclusion that a mountain hardtail would be the best bet, but I'm thinking that since most of these come with 21 or 24 speeds I'm hesitating, because the front derrailur is going to be removed, therefore, it'd render some of the cogs essentially useless. so...what is the solution there? is it maybe better to find like a simpler 7 speed bicycle? or change the sprocket?
I know you recommended a Hardtail mountain bike, but I have a track top fuel seven that I am thinking about converting. Mostly because my fat ass still struggles with pills. Any thoughts on this specific bike?
The electric motor kind of offsets the disadvantages of fat bike wheels and tires. Your totally right about folders and i feel that full sus has a lot of the same issues. Also 700c wheel bikes that don't have room for at least 32c tires and fenders are probably best for people who already really know what they are doing and don't need our help.
Ive got a nice bike to convert into electric with the bafang motor kit. My only question is, will my handle bars work with it? They are not straight but the traditional curved style.
My Dahon Mariner D8 converted well. It has the mounting points in the right places for the battery and the motor was an easy install. My only complaint is that the bike is top heavy because of the very large battery and rack I used. Also I wish it had front and rear suspension but it is a stiff frame. Also it is pretty light weight which is a problem because if a semi-truck or large pick up truck passes me the drag force almost knocks the bike over and if I am going 30mph already that can be hard to recover from.
Been watching all your vlogs over the last 2 weeks since I was diagnosed with a second brain tumour after 15 years. I've bought 2 old skool mountain bike frames a Marin a Scott and a bdshd kit which would have been built today if the seller of the spacers hadn't used the cheapest post ! Hopefully this week I'll feel the power of the bdshd. Then it's in hospital on Friday for the big operation the bike will be priceless during my recovery you will have saved my life.
I swapped 26 inch cruiser wheels with a front disk brake onto a cheapo Walmart fixie bicycle frame. Then I installed a double springer front fork and north road handle bars. It's a great stable platform with a 500 watt geared hub drive kit and a triangular 48 volt 20 amp hour battery.
You are making some important points. I can't really use a fat bike. The tires don't fit on the bike carrying racks on the busses either. Thanks for the great advice.
I’m interested in upgrading a tandem cruiser bike to electric per your recommendations. I’m 76 so I like the idea of a bit of help pedaling. I’m not looking to climb mountains etc. I have not bought the bike yet and I don’t know if you’ve done one or have any insight on doing this. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
totally agree,if you go off road there is to much flex when you are going down pot hole filled farm tracks, this the beauty of a well built ebike you will want to explore ,any spring or flex you will end up over the handlebars
Even though the handling is a little worse on E fat bikes than normal mountain bikes, the stability at higher speeds is way better and I think it would serve perfect for an all season commuter, and that is worth it to me. I dont like feeling the shakiness on thinner tires when maintaining higher speeds.
Yeah I make custom ebikes as a side hobby, not just upgrading a hard tail mountain bike. I find fat tires annoying for road use but 2.8 3 inches I find are both good for on and off road totally agree.
I liked this video. I need to move to a step-thru/step-through/low-step frame. I want to use a mid drive motor. What criteria should I use when selecting the proper frame. Thank you.
Hi Johnny ... I'm glad I found your videos. I'd like to ask you if a 7 speed adult tricycle would be hard to convert to an e-trike. I'm a senior and would like to do some peddling but almost as soon as I get out my door there's a fairly long steep hill that I'll need full power to get me up. The other places I want to ride are mostly flat but I'm not totally sure because I haven't been able to walk more than an hour either way on the repurposed old railway line (CNN trail). If a tricycle could be converted, what size of battery would you recommend (I've shrunk to 5'.3" and widened to 160 lbs). I'd really appreciate your recommendations if you have the time. Thanks so much.
Not trying to step on our hosts toes but if the mid Drive fits it works with all of your existing gears and isn't the problem when you have to replace the tire or tube and from what I understand the newer ones with the torque sensors are definitely the way to go and if I understand them as well as I think I do they will inevitably displace all of the Cadence Sensor types that have been predominant up until now. That said I've never owned an ebike before for disclosure but I do excessive amounts of homework before I purchase anything because I'm unemployed and probably will remain that way so everything I do has to be well thought out due to my financial inability to redo it again if I get it wrong
Johnny, your videos are so helpful! I'm planning on converting my single-speed road bike to have a mid-drive motor for commuting on mostly flat terrain with a couple of big hills, does anybody reading see this being an issue with a single speed, the gears that will be on it initially when I go ahead will be 42t chainring and 16t sprocket. Speed is my priority as the commute is currently 1hr 45 minutes 😂
This is perfect! I have an older Rocky Mountain hard tail that I’ve been contemplating attempting a conversion… your videos are giving me abit of confidence to try it… I would be using it to commute to work which is about 13 kms each way. I would like to get there as quick as possible with the option of throttle only.( for those days I am tired on my way home) what would you suggest as a good combo? Was thinking 1000w Bafang mid drive… not sure about controller and battery for max speed… what are your thoughts!? Love your videos!
I drive an hard tail mtb with a 750w mid drive 52v 14ah battery, a full charge easily makes me go 13km to go and 14 km to come back. Max speed is about 40kmph. Only issue is that sometimes you feel the lack of suspension, example when riding on flagstone (very common here in Italy) or very uneven roads, and it sometimes makes my lower back hurt. Consider I am a pretty athletic 22yo.
The biggest bike in my arsenal is my Surly BFD. Yes it's a fat bike, yes it's a cargo bike, and yes the handling is something that takes getting used to. BUT the fat tires aside, it's one of those bikes that is specific to what you're looking to achieve ...like the difference between buying a F150 vs a F250(w/a 6.7 powerstroke). It is just what it is. But I'm currently in the market for getting an e-bike conversion and according to JNO's other vidz, I'm going with the Bafang Mid-Drive and NOT the Bafang Hub. Thanks JNO ;)
I looked and don’t see a video where you mention Carbon Fiber frames. I have a mid-level carbon fiber hardtail ($3500 msrp). I am thinking about adding a BBSHD to it. Your thoughts @JohnnyNerdOut? Is there any reason I shouldn’t convert a nice carbon fiber hard-tail? If not are there any installation issues to look out for? Thanks!
Haven't started my build yet, but I guess I'm doing everything right so far. That's exactly the bike I got for my conversion. Schwinn Axum 29 with 2.6" tires and mechanical discs. The reviews say it's comparable to bikes that sell for twice the price.
Hi Johnny, in regards to the Hailong Battery cases, if you are going to purchase the empty case and install your own 18650,s does the case come with a BMS or do i need to purchase that separately? if so do you have a go to brand? Cheers..
you would have to buy your own BMS unless they state it comes with one usually. I don't have a go to brand, I usually get them from the OEM to replace when I need to
My favourite part about this video is when he says "unless you need it". These aren't hard and fast rules, if you need a bike for the snow or sand, get a fat tire bike, if you need a bike for your limited space camper, get a folder. Fantastic short video, and valid points.
I'm looking for a "donor" bike now. I'm thinking about a 750 watt mid drive conversion. What do think about a medium size Trek duel suspension mountain bike? I'd like to ride payment and some easy trails, gravel, grass etc. I RV fulltime and I never know where I'll be or what type of riding I'll be doing. I'm 5'6" 29" inseam and 210lbs. Looking to invest around $200 or less for a donor bike. And using a china made conversion kit off Ali Express. What are your thoughts?
Hey boss what do you think about juiced city scrambler bikes? That's what I am currently riding lol already have a month and a week with it I put around 870miles already. But yeah what do you know about these bikes? Would like to hear from you man 🥲
They don't handle or rude well and basically don't work as an assist, but a scrambler is all about fun and that's its Forte in spades! Would be great intercity short commuters bumping up and down curbs and fitting in tight spaces.
65 with bad back .. I used an Electra Townie 7D "step thru" I can touch the ground from the seat and getting off and on with the step thru is easy .. Paired with wider Kenda tires and my own seat and handlebar setup made a great cruiser/exercise bike for me ... 1000 watt Magic Pie front hub motor with 52 volt 14 Ah battery
Folding bikes and fat bikes have specific purpose, if you need it get it but dont get it for the cool factor, I got a folding ebike from fiido and it's ok but not great, I did consider a fat bike but decided the downsides outweighed any advantages it might have, in the end i just converted standard full suspension mountain bikes and am very happy, comfortable enough and great range.
What's your take on the left side drive conversion kits for somebody working within very tight budget constraint and in desperate need of alternative Transportation mode
im thinking putting a bafang e motor mid drive on my Santa Cruzv10 (weight 16kg) but i dont know how many watts should i buy 750w or 1000w, can a 750watts run my heavy bike, thank you?
I have an old Mountain Cycle Shockwave that doesn't see much use anymore. Would this be an acceptable candidate for a conversion like this? Would be used mainly as a grocery getter on the back of an rv.
Continue . You are calling like it is . I just a built a E Bike Mongoose Mack . 750 watt E Drive. 52 volt battery Pac. It is taking me farther . Plus enjoying riding . I would be not Biking , If not for this new technology Not saying age is a issue . This is the reason I got back into Biking. Thank You!! I'm 54 years of age.
Am interested in converting my current bike to an e-bike cuz lets face it, my stamina for hill climbing is not what it used to be in my 30's (I will be 61 soon) lol Is my bike, 14 yr old Giant 24 speed, a good candidate for an upgrade to electric? Anyways, awesome videos. Just subscribed and am off to your website! LOL
Nice thing about installing bbs02/hd on fat bikes and plus sized bikes with the wider bb shells and rear hubs, is that you can easily get your chainline straight, even with a small chainring with no offset. On a 68mm bbs02 with normal 2”ish rear tire, even a lekkie 42t does not totally correct the chainline, with no bottom bracket spacers on the drive side. Which sux cuz I like being able to use different chainrings. On my 120mm bbshd fat bike, i can configure the bb spacers and move the motor to correct my chainline, and use any chainring i want, lekkie is not absolutely required. I agree though with the 4” fat tires, i think its a bit much (also there are very few options for 4” tires). something closer to 3” is better.
What are you referring to when you say 42t, what does that designation represent? I've seen that several times now but have no idea what it's referring to which makes it completely useless for decision making purposes so I'm hoping maybe somebody can tell me so I make a good choice when the time comes
Great video! I think I’m ready to build an e-bike conversion. I found a full suspension fat tire bike on Amazon that’s designed with lots of room in the “triangle” and a water bottle mount (where the battery bracket would attach). Do you have a FB page where I can post the bike and get your expert opinion?
What ebike kits fit a hardtail MTB? 110mm/148mm front/rear dropout spacing, 15mm/12mm axle diameters and a 34T max chainring. The crank kits I've seen want 44T or more chainrings, motor hits the chain stay, wheel motors want you to squeeze the droputs from 148mm to 138mm and have a10mm axle.
I'm only 5'4 150 lbs and my fat tire ebike handles great. Doesn't feel like I'm trying to wrestle a pig. It is a very big bike but handles good. I did get it for hunting and trail riding mostly but it's great for daily riding in the city too. Way more comfortable than a mountain bike
Not at all an expert on ebikes, but nice to know I made a good choice as per this video. I am older, 65 years old, 260lbs, 2 prior back surgeries. I will be using this bike to ride the trails of our national parks in support of my wildlife photography hobby. So, going on my mechanical common sense I chose the Aventon Aventure. Thing is a beast at 73lbs, 26" X 4" fat tires. The motor has lots of power. Wasn't even sure if my back would be able to handle a bike again after a 27 year hiatus from a road bike (The result of 2 back surgeries). I have had the Aventon now for three weeks, attempting to get back into riding shape and to try and determine if getting back on a bike is even feasible for me. So far, my back is holding up and I am very excited about that (Didn't believe I would ever be back on a bike after my surgeries). The bike rides heavy bc of all the tread gripping the road. Not at all like my 10-speed road bike back in the day. But now I need help traversing my 260lb body loaded down with camera gear thru miles of national parks. So far I think I made a wise choice.......time will tell once I get out there in the parks and put the bike thru its paces. Excellent video, thanks for all of your expert advice. BTW, I am very happy with this ebike just cruising the neighborhoods. The bike has a bunch of power, lots of fun.
I’ve had a mongoose ctossway850 1995, it’s a 24.5 frame with great rake angle, I ❤️ it, thing is being a tall hefty fella, I butterflied the rear wheel doing a simple pram dip gutter, here in australia they’re like little half cups in shape. Do I go a rear wheel motor assy or mid hub drive, 7speed twist grip and STX rd m-series brakes which stop very good, moneys not really a issue, turned old 60 yr just last august, never got into bicycle engineering, I’m aero
Hey man i built a Cannondale ebike after watching your videos and im loving it. My buddy has some mobility issues and he wants a 3 wheel ebike. thinking about building one with him if we cant find a prebuilt one he likes... i dont have much knowledge of quality trike makers, could you recommend any ? i dont think Cannondale makes a trike.
JohnnyNerdOut I need a little help.... tore the wires coming out of rear hub motor, where to buy the set of wires, or do I just make up my own set? I think there will be 3 heavy wires... What Gauge? 1500 Watt motor.... (Voilamart hub). and maybe 5 smaller wires?? What gauge do I make these? I know the scope of this repair and well within my expertise, I just would like to know before getting to work on it, don't want to stop and go wire shopping & then come back to it. Thanks, me and my son have watched many of your Great Videos !!!
Great question, you should be able to bring the wires with you no? The phase wires are usually thicker but vary from motor to motor so I can’t give you an answer there, you will have to make it match what you currently have. It should be a pretty straightforward solder job. Just probably pretty time-consuming cracking open a motor etc.
First time subscribers. Great information. I am a senior who is in good shape. Looking for a trail EV bike that not too heavy for me to lift to carry in my truck.what brand do you recommend, Please.
Look at the trek marlin, they start at about $600. I’d need to know more information though to really guide you. I do consultations for this exact situation over at my website 👍 Johnnynerdout.com
Hoping I can get an answer to this question fairly quickly. The bafang mid drive motor basically just has a dogged braket that clamps to the bottom braket on the bike. For an aluminum framed Mt bike, does this mounting style damage the threads on the bottom braket where it bites into the bottom braket? If I ever wanted to convert back to a standard crank on my bike will I be dealing with damaged threads on my bottom braket from mounting the bafang with basically a clamped, dogged, friction mounting system? Obviously this is all still so new, probably not too many people have considered converting back to a standard crank. 🤔
Best bikes are a good T6 alloy bike with hydraulic disc, you may have to file the rear dropouts a little from a 9mm gap to a 10mm gap and that's about it, fits some nice big washers to spread the load and keep the nuts tight. I run a 1000w rear with the shunt mod with wire instead of solder so I can go back to 30amps instead of approx 40amp, with a 55v 15ah lion battery 🔋, you get a good 35mph which takes some stopping even with disc brakes
Yea, I am a hunter and travel miles up and down hills. I am looking for a good donor bike which is a fat bike. The question to you, I am looking at a 3K watt or 4K watt since I will have a trailer which when full of boned out elk with head will weight about 350 lbs.
The width of the tire does create more rolling resistance but any difficulty in maintaining stability had little to do with the width. It's likely the offroad style tread (and uneven wear of the trad) caused the sensation you're experiencing, and the width most likely helped from it being worse. A road/pavement style tread would definitely fix this issue --albeit, at the expense of offroad performance. Thinner tread widths are more susceptible to tracking inconsistencies (ruts, grooves, etc.,) than a wider tire. Anyone riding a motorcycle on concrete highways (popular in California) where grooves have been pressed into the concrete can attest to this. There's a constant shifting (lateral incursions perpendicular to forward momentum) that is typically resolved by installing a wider tread.
Hello sorry If I repeat the question already ask but how about double suspension bike? will it would be a problem to put like a bafang 750w on it? Thanks
I have a full suspension 500DS Motobecane and I'm struggling where to put the battery and controller. Controller might fit in the very small triangle. Putting the battery underneath may be a bad idea though.
Can I use a mid drive motor on a Felt XCity with eccentric bottom bracket? I’ve watched a few of your videos but not all. I’m not sure if you’ve addressed this. Thanks for all the great info.
Thanks for your help. I’ll do some more research. I’m not in love with the bottom bracket, but loved the bike when I got it ten years ago. Now it’s the one you described that sits collecting dust.
I want to add a Bafang headlight to my mid drive conversion. Bafang wants $80 for one. I can seemingly get the same light off of Amazon for $16. But it only has two wires, not the plug as found on a Bafang. Could I buy the extension cable and then solder the leads from the light onto that?
This one? www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/bafang-front-rear-horn-turn-signal-light-kit Or this one? www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/6v-headlight-for-bafang-bbshd-motor-systems www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/6v-headlight-for-bafang-motor-systems
Any suggestion for a light weight alu frame hardtial MTB? I already converted my trek marlin 4 with a bafang bbshd but it kind of weighs too much in my opinion...Now Im looking for a light aluminium hardtail MTB
And 3rd..... Never try to convert a workout bike...!
I uhh just put some scooter wheels on mine and it works fine for me so far
(lifts welding hood) "god damn it, I told you this was stupid Jerry!"
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Great now you tell me , me and my peloton shot out of a fourth story window
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Thanks for this one. I also just commented in one of your video on doing bike conversions and said that my project bike is a 35 yr old Bridgestone hardtail MTB. I take it out on trails and load up with my camera gear so this power assist is just to help out my 70 yr old knees without breaking the bank. I’ll update when my project comes to fruition
I've had a fat tire ebike for 5 years and it handles great as long as you've got the tire pressure high. On road I run typically around 30 psi and it handles similar to a motorcycle, but once you get the pressure below 15 psi, which is great for trails and loose stuff, you can really start to feel the sidewall flex when turning and it's not fun to ride on asphalt, especially at high speed.
20 psi is fine on my 4 in. stiff enough on pavement. yeah it said put ten in the tires. i could not even make a turn at that pressure.
Frankly at "overpressures" the rolling resistance and handling on pavement is really not far off from regular MTBs, I was really shocked at how high I could get the average speed even on trips of more than 20 miles. Its only 15% less than my "normal" bikes. I regularly use my unpowered fatbike that has 4.8s when i go for mixed surface trips, its totally acceptable when on the pavement during transitions and so nice on the corrugated to hell and back dirt roads. I'm not much of a off-roader so my technical routes are always fairly tame so i can't speak on that aspect with authority. Also if there's really extreme surfaces its best to have a battery powered compressor on you to quickly adjust pressure.
the trick is to keep correct inflation, anything under is bad for the tyres and your pocket.
I have a bosch gen 4 fatbike. I think it's great. On asphalt it's not the smoothest ride however since most tires have pretty aggressive tread patterns. Much smoother when riding offroad or on gravel roads. It's also awesome in the winter with studded tires. Riding on extremely slippery ice is like riding on gravel.
Absolutely… I’d say don’t get a fat bike if you life in perfectly paved flat lander city with no curbs, never plan on off road or adventure trails, don’t care about aggressive appearance…. Otherwise GET a fat tire bike 😂
I love how short and to the point some of these videos are. I put a Curry Electric bike kit with a 24 volt lead acid on to my Schwinn hybrid 21 years ago. I think it is time to revisit my interest in this! Subscribed!
battery technology especially has come a long way, you might be able to make your old kit work well just by getting a new battery.
The difference is like aodel t ford vs a Ferrari ,you should try again ,lipo batterys and brushless motors have made a world of difference
Greatest ebike channel for real information, for me. Cheers.
Excellent! I'm getting ready to do a diy ebike and have several old bikes I am currently restoring for a refugee center.
Thanks for the help in navigating this new world of ebikes!
I have a folding e-bike and I have almost 2000 miles on it It works great with no problems. There may be some folding bikes that would not work out as a home build however. The one I have was made to be electric.
What do you have , I need to buy an ebike ASAP and not sure what to buy , I don't need to travel with it as I'll be using it to ride on the road for exercise and everyday shopping trips , but I am just thinking that if something was to go wrong with it I have no way of getting it to a shop for repair ? You help appreciated 🙂
Yeah, pretty sure he's talking about converting a folding bike to an ebike. Not buying a folding ebike.
What model is it?
Post a video of this build Ted, I have never seen a folding bike build and would love to see yours.
@@Emilio0587....I put on bbso2 on Dahon 26 inches. Looks cool
I find this short video amazingly helpful, though I'm planning to buy an ebike for my daily work commute.
Just subbed to your channel. Great info you put out. Looking forward to more vids.
I have both 3" tires 27.5" wheels for summer and 4" tires 26" wheels for winter snow riding. I love my fat bike!
I have a bafang ultra on my fatbike just keep the 4" tires on it and got studded terene cake eaters for winter
Just add a bit more psi to the tires for street and they feel normal
After 2 weeks I sold my non fatbike it felt so unstable and the bar width was so much shorter I think that was the main issue
Been looking for a bike to put 3" ties on and convert. What are you riding?
Ohh well, I just spend 2 hours looking for an ebike that fits in my trunk - foldable + fat tires ; )))
now you got me wondering ...
I guess I ve to watch some of your videos to learn more about conversion and bafang motors.
Thx a lot for your videos!!
If that foldable e-fat-bike is Danish, go for it!
Fat bikes with mid drives... They’re kicking on canal and river paths. Great in the woods and on mountains and hills too! I love the extra traction and confidence on rocky or shingly mountain and hill tracks (getting old... injuries don’t heal well). In my opinion, mid drive motors on fat bikes makes a lot of sense... a little help getting over the rolling resistance. 😊 also makes my Surly Pugsley towing a trailer a lot easier. Of my three bikes the ebike Pugsley is the most pleasurable to ride. Keep up with the good vids dude 👍
Bob trailers are expensive but single wheel trailers are the best bet for bike towing.
@@davidelliott5843 I agree! I have a BOB Ibex, Burley Coho and Burley Nomad. For narrow canal and river tow paths single wheel trailers rule! The Burley Coho is the only single wheel that fits perfectly behind the offset Pugsley. The Extrawheel Mate is another great option.
Johnny, thanks so much for your opinions. What you’re talking about makes perfect sense. I’m trying to decide what’s best for me, thanks to your vids I’m becoming educated on what’s what in ebikes.
Great advice. I wondered about building ebikes for both of these.
i will say after riding my DIY fatbike for now 2 years as a commuter, after changing some things it has been great. im using thinner rims that make the tire profile more round so handling isnt too bad. thou i am 6'6" and 300lbs, so i feel better on it than most MTBs. its not for everyone but its not something that should be avoided completely. also u can do 3.5" tires (currently run 4in mammoths in back, and 3.5" vee speedsters in front). handles 35mph really well especially after swapping the front fork for a doublecrown rigid fork :D
Bruhh we have a similar set up I have a downhill fork style with 3.5 speedsters on front and 4.0 vee zigzag tyre on back with two 60v dual battery s
why double crown rigid is better?
@@kazhankazhanovych6895 more rigid, less flex under heavy braking or turning, better transmittion of road feel to the bars. But be aware double crowns can stress a cheap frame with low quality welds.
I second both of your opinions , with all due respect I love my full size fat bike , because it gets attention of the drivers on the road just because its huge , secondly I love my folding rad runner because its got 3.3 inch wide tires and i have taken it everywhere in my cars trunk and it can go places.
Thank you for explaining why the “loaner” is so squirrely in turns, and feels unstable at speeds above 12 miles an hour!
Had that experience with a $100 steel solid Walmart bike. A $1000 folding Tern should be fine.
this is a very important review since I am not familiar with all bike designs. I almost bought a used folding e-bike since it looked like a quality bike, it would be easy to store/transport in my car without a bike rack (a quality bike rack is expensive), and the price for the ebike I saw for sale was reasonable. But I will be riding on roads with potholes and even dirt/gravel trails. So I will exclude those types. The fat bike I might consider because I am not using an bike for commuting and I have tall and heavy.
I converted a free-to-me full aluminum, with shocks front and back. It was far too late to realize I should have gotten something with disc brakes and somewhere to actually put the battery and controller. It seemed a perfect coincidence until I actually started to try and get everything to fit well.
What does it look like, what does it look like. I'm trying to do the same thing just mid drive
I agree with the advice regarding folding electric bikes I have one which was store brought. The handle bar stem snapped while I was cycling which caused me too crash hurt a bit
Stumbled onto your channel. Your videos are great! Thank you for making them.
I'm thinking about the model of bicycle to get for a conversion, specifically a 750w mid-drive per your recommendation. And I sort of came to the conclusion that a mountain hardtail would be the best bet, but I'm thinking that since most of these come with 21 or 24 speeds I'm hesitating, because the front derrailur is going to be removed, therefore, it'd render some of the cogs essentially useless. so...what is the solution there?
is it maybe better to find like a simpler 7 speed bicycle? or change the sprocket?
I know you recommended a Hardtail mountain bike, but I have a track top fuel seven that I am thinking about converting. Mostly because my fat ass still struggles with pills. Any thoughts on this specific bike?
A friend of mine had a business selling a brand of e-bike and his most popular model was a folding 20 inch. Lotsa fun in the city sans potholes.
The electric motor kind of offsets the disadvantages of fat bike wheels and tires. Your totally right about folders and i feel that full sus has a lot of the same issues. Also 700c wheel bikes that don't have room for at least 32c tires and fenders are probably best for people who already really know what they are doing and don't need our help.
Ive got a nice bike to convert into electric with the bafang motor kit. My only question is, will my handle bars work with it? They are not straight but the traditional curved style.
My Dahon Mariner D8 converted well. It has the mounting points in the right places for the battery and the motor was an easy install. My only complaint is that the bike is top heavy because of the very large battery and rack I used. Also I wish it had front and rear suspension but it is a stiff frame. Also it is pretty light weight which is a problem because if a semi-truck or large pick up truck passes me the drag force almost knocks the bike over and if I am going 30mph already that can be hard to recover from.
Been watching all your vlogs over the last 2 weeks since I was diagnosed with a second brain tumour after 15 years. I've bought 2 old skool mountain bike frames a Marin a Scott and a bdshd kit which would have been built today if the seller of the spacers hadn't used the cheapest post ! Hopefully this week I'll feel the power of the bdshd. Then it's in hospital on Friday for the big operation the bike will be priceless during my recovery you will have saved my life.
Keep biking and get well soon. Enjoy life.
god bless!!!
I hope your operation went well and you can enjoy the bike rides!
Love your videos-I commute in the winter...so I'm totally rocking a fat bike-but I appreciate your perspective!
I swapped 26 inch cruiser wheels with a front disk brake onto a cheapo Walmart fixie bicycle frame. Then I installed a double springer front fork and north road handle bars. It's a great stable platform with a 500 watt geared hub drive kit and a triangular 48 volt 20 amp hour battery.
You are making some important points. I can't really use a fat bike. The tires don't fit on the bike carrying racks on the busses either. Thanks for the great advice.
I’m interested in upgrading a tandem cruiser bike to electric per your recommendations. I’m 76 so I like the idea of a bit of help pedaling. I’m not looking to climb mountains etc. I have not bought the bike yet and I don’t know if you’ve done one or have any insight on doing this. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
totally agree,if you go off road there is to much flex when you are going down pot hole filled farm tracks, this the beauty of a well built ebike you will want to explore ,any spring or flex you will end up over the handlebars
Even though the handling is a little worse on E fat bikes than normal mountain bikes, the stability at higher speeds is way better and I think it would serve perfect for an all season commuter, and that is worth it to me. I dont like feeling the shakiness on thinner tires when maintaining higher speeds.
Yeah I make custom ebikes as a side hobby, not just upgrading a hard tail mountain bike. I find fat tires annoying for road use but 2.8 3 inches I find are both good for on and off road totally agree.
Thank you so much for sharing so much of your knowledge and experience with the world!
I agree. Get a Day 6! They’re so cool!
Very timely vid for me, thanks.
I just put a Swytch kit on my 24 in folding tern node. It works great. Yes I did need to MacGyver a couple things. It works great.
I liked this video. I need to move to a step-thru/step-through/low-step frame. I want to use a mid drive motor. What criteria should I use when selecting the proper frame. Thank you.
Hi Johnny ... I'm glad I found your videos. I'd like to ask you if a 7 speed adult tricycle would be hard to convert to an e-trike. I'm a senior and would like to do some peddling but almost as soon as I get out my door there's a fairly long steep hill that I'll need full power to get me up. The other places I want to ride are mostly flat but I'm not totally sure because I haven't been able to walk more than an hour either way on the repurposed old railway line (CNN trail). If a tricycle could be converted, what size of battery would you recommend (I've shrunk to 5'.3" and widened to 160 lbs). I'd really appreciate your recommendations if you have the time. Thanks so much.
Not trying to step on our hosts toes but if the mid Drive fits it works with all of your existing gears and isn't the problem when you have to replace the tire or tube and from what I understand the newer ones with the torque sensors are definitely the way to go and if I understand them as well as I think I do they will inevitably displace all of the Cadence Sensor types that have been predominant up until now. That said I've never owned an ebike before for disclosure but I do excessive amounts of homework before I purchase anything because I'm unemployed and probably will remain that way so everything I do has to be well thought out due to my financial inability to redo it again if I get it wrong
Johnny, your videos are so helpful! I'm planning on converting my single-speed road bike to have a mid-drive motor for commuting on mostly flat terrain with a couple of big hills, does anybody reading see this being an issue with a single speed, the gears that will be on it initially when I go ahead will be 42t chainring and 16t sprocket. Speed is my priority as the commute is currently 1hr 45 minutes 😂
Be careful and safe brother, I'd definitely wanna speed up my commute but you don't wanna show up to work dead.
This is perfect! I have an older Rocky Mountain hard tail that I’ve been contemplating attempting a conversion… your videos are giving me abit of confidence to try it… I would be using it to commute to work which is about 13 kms each way. I would like to get there as quick as possible with the option of throttle only.( for those days I am tired on my way home) what would you suggest as a good combo? Was thinking 1000w Bafang mid drive… not sure about controller and battery for max speed… what are your thoughts!? Love your videos!
I drive an hard tail mtb with a 750w mid drive 52v 14ah battery, a full charge easily makes me go 13km to go and 14 km to come back. Max speed is about 40kmph. Only issue is that sometimes you feel the lack of suspension, example when riding on flagstone (very common here in Italy) or very uneven roads, and it sometimes makes my lower back hurt. Consider I am a pretty athletic 22yo.
The biggest bike in my arsenal is my Surly BFD. Yes it's a fat bike, yes it's a cargo bike, and yes the handling is something that takes getting used to. BUT the fat tires aside, it's one of those bikes that is specific to what you're looking to achieve ...like the difference between buying a F150 vs a F250(w/a 6.7 powerstroke). It is just what it is. But I'm currently in the market for getting an e-bike conversion and according to JNO's other vidz, I'm going with the Bafang Mid-Drive and NOT the Bafang Hub. Thanks JNO ;)
I looked and don’t see a video where you mention Carbon Fiber frames. I have a mid-level carbon fiber hardtail ($3500 msrp). I am thinking about adding a BBSHD to it. Your thoughts @JohnnyNerdOut? Is there any reason I shouldn’t convert a nice carbon fiber hard-tail? If not are there any installation issues to look out for? Thanks!
If you search my channel for carbon fiber it should be the only video 👍
Haven't started my build yet, but I guess I'm doing everything right so far. That's exactly the bike I got for my conversion. Schwinn Axum 29 with 2.6" tires and mechanical discs. The reviews say it's comparable to bikes that sell for twice the price.
Question: Will your hardtail 2.6-3.0" tire handle snow/winter road. Or should I go 4.0" rather than 5.0" on a fatty :\
Hi Johnny, in regards to the Hailong Battery cases, if you are going to purchase the empty case and install your own 18650,s does the case come with a BMS or do i need to purchase that separately? if so do you have a go to brand?
Cheers..
you would have to buy your own BMS unless they state it comes with one usually. I don't have a go to brand, I usually get them from the OEM to replace when I need to
My favourite part about this video is when he says "unless you need it". These aren't hard and fast rules, if you need a bike for the snow or sand, get a fat tire bike, if you need a bike for your limited space camper, get a folder.
Fantastic short video, and valid points.
I actually really appreciate that you noticed that as most people, it seems, think I condemn them blanket-style
I have two Schwinn cruisers, no gears. Would you recommend converting? Will only be used for recreational neighborhood riding, some rolling hills.
As long as they are in decent shape and you understand their shortcomings
I'm looking for a "donor" bike now. I'm thinking about a 750 watt mid drive conversion. What do think about a medium size Trek duel suspension mountain bike? I'd like to ride payment and some easy trails, gravel, grass etc. I RV fulltime and I never know where I'll be or what type of riding I'll be doing. I'm 5'6" 29" inseam and 210lbs. Looking to invest around $200 or less for a donor bike. And using a china made conversion kit off Ali Express. What are your thoughts?
Hey boss what do you think about juiced city scrambler bikes? That's what I am currently riding lol already have a month and a week with it I put around 870miles already. But yeah what do you know about these bikes? Would like to hear from you man 🥲
They don't handle or rude well and basically don't work as an assist, but a scrambler is all about fun and that's its Forte in spades! Would be great intercity short commuters bumping up and down curbs and fitting in tight spaces.
Dude, where have you BEEN! Thanks for this.
65 with bad back .. I used an Electra Townie 7D "step thru" I can touch the ground from the seat and getting off and on with the step thru is easy .. Paired with wider Kenda tires and my own seat and handlebar setup made a great cruiser/exercise bike for me ... 1000 watt Magic Pie front hub motor with 52 volt 14 Ah battery
Those are incredible with a torque sensing mid-drive.
Where can we see it.
I Forget I have Goggle
Folding bikes and fat bikes have specific purpose, if you need it get it but dont get it for the cool factor,
I got a folding ebike from fiido and it's ok but not great, I did consider a fat bike but decided the downsides outweighed any advantages it might have, in the end i just converted standard full suspension mountain bikes and am very happy, comfortable enough and great range.
Cheers bud have been considering both of what you were talking about . What do you think about shock absorbing seat stems with a hard tail?
Great, just don’t cheap out on it 😀
What's your take on the left side drive conversion kits for somebody working within very tight budget constraint and in desperate need of alternative Transportation mode
im thinking putting a bafang e motor mid drive on my Santa Cruzv10 (weight 16kg) but i dont know how many watts should i buy 750w or 1000w, can a 750watts run my heavy bike, thank you?
I have an old Mountain Cycle Shockwave that doesn't see much use anymore. Would this be an acceptable candidate for a conversion like this? Would be used mainly as a grocery getter on the back of an rv.
Continue . You are calling like it is . I just a built a E Bike Mongoose Mack . 750 watt E Drive. 52 volt battery Pac. It is taking me farther . Plus enjoying riding . I would be not Biking , If not for this new technology Not saying age is a issue . This is the reason I got back into Biking. Thank You!! I'm 54 years of age.
Riding perhaps, but if you are not pedaling, it ain't biking.
Seriously, with that set up it's a motorcycle.
Am interested in converting my current bike to an e-bike cuz lets face it, my stamina for hill climbing is not what it used to be in my 30's (I will be 61 soon) lol Is my bike, 14 yr old Giant 24 speed, a good candidate for an upgrade to electric?
Anyways, awesome videos. Just subscribed and am off to your website! LOL
I have a full suspension 27.5 MTB that I was thinking about converting. Why do you prefer hard tail?
Nice thing about installing bbs02/hd on fat bikes and plus sized bikes with the wider bb shells and rear hubs, is that you can easily get your chainline straight, even with a small chainring with no offset. On a 68mm bbs02 with normal 2”ish rear tire, even a lekkie 42t does not totally correct the chainline, with no bottom bracket spacers on the drive side. Which sux cuz I like being able to use different chainrings. On my 120mm bbshd fat bike, i can configure the bb spacers and move the motor to correct my chainline, and use any chainring i want, lekkie is not absolutely required. I agree though with the 4” fat tires, i think its a bit much (also there are very few options for 4” tires). something closer to 3” is better.
What are you referring to when you say 42t, what does that designation represent?
I've seen that several times now but have no idea what it's referring to which makes it completely useless for decision making purposes so I'm hoping maybe somebody can tell me so I make a good choice when the time comes
Great video! I think I’m ready to build an e-bike conversion. I found a full suspension fat tire bike on Amazon that’s designed with lots of room in the “triangle” and a water bottle mount (where the battery bracket would attach). Do you have a FB page where I can post the bike and get your expert opinion?
message me it @ johnnynerdout.com
In your experience will three inch fat tires fit on a typical 29 inch mountain bike or cruiser style hybrid?
What ebike kits fit a hardtail MTB? 110mm/148mm front/rear dropout spacing, 15mm/12mm axle diameters and a 34T max chainring. The crank kits I've seen want 44T or more chainrings, motor hits the chain stay, wheel motors want you to squeeze the droputs from 148mm to 138mm and have a10mm axle.
Best Vids I've seen about E bikes. Would you recommend a 2019 Trek 69er? 29 front 26 rear tires?
Sorry, 2009 with Shimano 11-42 10 speed cassette
I'm only 5'4 150 lbs and my fat tire ebike handles great. Doesn't feel like I'm trying to wrestle a pig. It is a very big bike but handles good. I did get it for hunting and trail riding mostly but it's great for daily riding in the city too. Way more comfortable than a mountain bike
Not at all an expert on ebikes, but nice to know I made a good choice as per this video. I am older, 65 years old, 260lbs, 2 prior back surgeries. I will be using this bike to ride the trails of our national parks in support of my wildlife photography hobby. So, going on my mechanical common sense I chose the Aventon Aventure. Thing is a beast at 73lbs, 26" X 4" fat tires. The motor has lots of power. Wasn't even sure if my back would be able to handle a bike again after a 27 year hiatus from a road bike (The result of 2 back surgeries). I have had the Aventon now for three weeks, attempting to get back into riding shape and to try and determine if getting back on a bike is even feasible for me. So far, my back is holding up and I am very excited about that (Didn't believe I would ever be back on a bike after my surgeries). The bike rides heavy bc of all the tread gripping the road. Not at all like my 10-speed road bike back in the day. But now I need help traversing my 260lb body loaded down with camera gear thru miles of national parks. So far I think I made a wise choice.......time will tell once I get out there in the parks and put the bike thru its paces. Excellent video, thanks for all of your expert advice. BTW, I am very happy with this ebike just cruising the neighborhoods. The bike has a bunch of power, lots of fun.
Any recs for a flywheel single speed 700c bike that's more low profile? Any pitfalls to the install? Thanks in advance and great vid.
I’ve had a mongoose ctossway850 1995, it’s a 24.5 frame with great rake angle, I ❤️ it, thing is being a tall hefty fella, I butterflied the rear wheel doing a simple pram dip gutter, here in australia they’re like little half cups in shape. Do I go a rear wheel motor assy or mid hub drive, 7speed twist grip and STX rd m-series brakes which stop very good, moneys not really a issue, turned old 60 yr just last august, never got into bicycle engineering, I’m aero
I would solicit your opinion in keeping the three front chain rings with a bafang 250w mid drive
Hey man i built a Cannondale ebike after watching your videos and im loving it. My buddy has some mobility issues and he wants a 3 wheel ebike. thinking about building one with him if we cant find a prebuilt one he likes... i dont have much knowledge of quality trike makers, could you recommend any ? i dont think Cannondale makes a trike.
Catrike. Check out Utah trikes too
JohnnyNerdOut I need a little help.... tore the wires coming out of rear hub motor, where to buy the set of wires, or do I just make up my own set? I think there will be 3 heavy wires... What Gauge? 1500 Watt motor.... (Voilamart hub). and maybe 5 smaller wires?? What gauge do I make these? I know the scope of this repair and well within my expertise, I just would like to know before getting to work on it, don't want to stop and go wire shopping & then come back to it. Thanks, me and my son have watched many of your Great Videos !!!
Great question, you should be able to bring the wires with you no? The phase wires are usually thicker but vary from motor to motor so I can’t give you an answer there, you will have to make it match what you currently have. It should be a pretty straightforward solder job. Just probably pretty time-consuming cracking open a motor etc.
What about beach cruisers? Which are okay, which to avoid?
Would you think that an old Trek Hybrid Bike with 700c (32 inch) road wheels with flat handle bars make a good bike for converting into an E-Bike ?
thx for sharing your opinions on it
I am looking to build an electric bike for hunting. What would be a good fat tire bike to convert into an ebike?
I have a Huffy with a single crank. The diameter is larger, do I need to reduce the diameter in order to install the HUB motor?
First time subscribers. Great information. I am a senior who is in good shape. Looking for a trail EV bike that not too heavy for me to lift to carry in my truck.what brand do you recommend, Please.
Look at the trek marlin, they start at about $600. I’d need to know more information though to really guide you. I do consultations for this exact situation over at my website 👍
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I’m 245 pounds what bike do you recommend purchasing ?
What two good bike names do you recommend for electric bikes?
what about a bmx? I've only seen a couple, is there a reason for that or do people just prefer mountain and road bikes?
Hoping I can get an answer to this question fairly quickly. The bafang mid drive motor basically just has a dogged braket that clamps to the bottom braket on the bike. For an aluminum framed Mt bike, does this mounting style damage the threads on the bottom braket where it bites into the bottom braket? If I ever wanted to convert back to a standard crank on my bike will I be dealing with damaged threads on my bottom braket from mounting the bafang with basically a clamped, dogged, friction mounting system? Obviously this is all still so new, probably not too many people have considered converting back to a standard crank. 🤔
It does not damage the threads. It clamps on from the outside. Onto the frame.
Best bikes are a good T6 alloy bike with hydraulic disc, you may have to file the rear dropouts a little from a 9mm gap to a 10mm gap and that's about it, fits some nice big washers to spread the load and keep the nuts tight. I run a 1000w rear with the shunt mod with wire instead of solder so I can go back to 30amps instead of approx 40amp, with a 55v 15ah lion battery 🔋, you get a good 35mph which takes some stopping even with disc brakes
Interesting idea about fat bikes. Any opinion on these cafe style racers?
Yea, I am a hunter and travel miles up and down hills. I am looking for a good donor bike which is a fat bike. The question to you, I am looking at a 3K watt or 4K watt since I will have a trailer which when full of boned out elk with head will weight about 350 lbs.
Where do you live. State ? I have 2 Costco fat tire bikes with the 26” 3.75 tire size. I would Loooove your expertise on converting them
I have a paselec g9. It has a hub motor and an internal battery. What do you think of putting a bafang mid drive motor on it?
The width of the tire does create more rolling resistance but any difficulty in maintaining stability had little to do with the width. It's likely the offroad style tread (and uneven wear of the trad) caused the sensation you're experiencing, and the width most likely helped from it being worse. A road/pavement style tread would definitely fix this issue --albeit, at the expense of offroad performance. Thinner tread widths are more susceptible to tracking inconsistencies (ruts, grooves, etc.,) than a wider tire. Anyone riding a motorcycle on concrete highways (popular in California) where grooves have been pressed into the concrete can attest to this. There's a constant shifting (lateral incursions perpendicular to forward momentum) that is typically resolved by installing a wider tread.
Hello sorry If I repeat the question already ask but how about double suspension bike? will it would be a problem to put like a bafang 750w on it? Thanks
I have a full suspension 500DS Motobecane and I'm struggling where to put the battery and controller. Controller might fit in the very small triangle. Putting the battery underneath may be a bad idea though.
Any kit recommendations on a kit for a bmx bike
How about a recumbent bike like the Sun EZ Classic SX? Are there good ebike conversion kits for them ?
Your the chit juanito nerdout . Thank you for keeping it straight up and down. Like 6 o'clock. About these bikes !!!
Can I use a mid drive motor on a Felt XCity with eccentric bottom bracket? I’ve watched a few of your videos but not all. I’m not sure if you’ve addressed this. Thanks for all the great info.
You “should” be able to. Just need to get an accenteic bb adapter 👍
Thanks for your help. I’ll do some more research. I’m not in love with the bottom bracket, but loved the bike when I got it ten years ago. Now it’s the one you described that sits collecting dust.
How about using a mini velo for bafang mid drive conversion with 20x2.5 tires?
I want to add a Bafang headlight to my mid drive conversion. Bafang wants $80 for one. I can seemingly get the same light off of Amazon for $16. But it only has two wires, not the plug as found on a Bafang. Could I buy the extension cable and then solder the leads from the light onto that?
This one?
www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/bafang-front-rear-horn-turn-signal-light-kit
Or this one?
www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/6v-headlight-for-bafang-bbshd-motor-systems
www.johnnynerdout.com/product-page/6v-headlight-for-bafang-motor-systems
@@JohnnyNerdOut The second one.
@@roamic curious what kind of plug ebike essentials had put on there? They are all just two wire. You can make whatever connection you want.
I have been riding skinny tires off road for years.A fat tire sucks up a lot of energy with little rewards to overcome the energy consumption.
Any suggestion for a light weight alu frame hardtial MTB? I already converted my trek marlin 4 with a bafang bbshd but it kind of weighs too much in my opinion...Now Im looking for a light aluminium hardtail MTB