Toronto's Worst Designed Shopping Centre | Stockyards Village Walk
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- A walk through the truly bizare Stockyards Village shopping centre
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I agree it’s a very unattractive looking shopping mall but it’s very convenient for the neighborhood
Good morning every one. Lots going on in the City this weekend. The rain may dampen it a bit. But the show must go on. Wishing everyone a wonderful weekend.
I always look forward to watching Johnnys" videos. ❤
I live about a 10 minute walk away from here. Despite living so close for the past 2.5 years, Nations is the only store that I go to on a semi-regular basis. Finding pretty much anything else in that sprawling abomination is basically impossible, especially if it's on the upper level (and no, the directory DOESN'T help!).
The fact that such a new development (less than a decade old!) was designed in such an auto-centric way despite being located directly on a streetcar line and several bus routes is incredibly depressing. There is lots of new residential development directly to the west of Gunns Loop, and this could have been a great pedestrian-friendly shopping/socialization area for people living nearby in an area that is otherwise pretty suburban. Alas.
Agree - very bad city planning, to allow this type of layout.Inconvenient and confusing. On the plus side, so many "supermarkets" are just grocery stores - that Nations place is truly "super" something!
Nations have a very confused lay out. Don't like
This is not the only one. Toronto is full of these kind of ridiculously designed places.
I live close to The Stockyards and it has a few stores I visit regularly but, you’re right, it’s not inviting at all. I go in the get exactly what I need and get out. I don’t wander around browsing as I would in literally any other mall. It was designed with the parking in the middle and all the stores are on the perimeter making it a hassle to walk from Old Navy to Sportchek the two most opposite corners.
I highly suggest Nations for both produce and hot/prepared foods....not shelf groceries.... expensive....eat there once a week. Beware they stop serving very early though...best time is around 5pm when they mark down prices. Go there after 6pm for dinner and you'll likely be out of luck
CF shops at don mills has similar layout. So empty it looks like liminal space. These days people are buying things online. If a shopping centre doesn’t provide the excitement, the vibe then it’s not inviting.
It was great when Target was there but so many stores have tried and failed at stockyards. It's brutal in the winter time, why they build outdoor malls in a cold country makes zero sense. A few great stores and it feels like it had potential but kinda disappointing. The shoeless Joe's is great tho!
This location of all these big companies are not paying for themselves. All the other locations are paying the rent for this location. This place is awful and dead , very poorly designed and not customer friendly at all. As a small business owner considering opening a place in Toronto , I appreciate you even more Johnny Strides. Thank you.
Have a great weekend Johnny! I really enjoyed this video! Cheers
You too Sepand!
It was a wonderful walk, thank you for sharing this beautiful video, my good friend❤
The video hasn’t even started yet lol
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good morning everyone
Good morning
I like this place. Tones of parking and convenient when driving.
That was an interesting walk, Johnny. I have only been to The Stockyards once ( way before Covid) in the middle of winter to buy a hard to get Sony lens at the Best Buy there. I felt like I was taking a long trip to nowhere on that streetcar! Certainly not worth a special trip but , you have to admit, it has more life than the Shops at Aura's hell hole of a mall.
It does but that doesn't say much lol
The Best Buy is not part of the Stockyards but the store along with Staples, Home Depot etc are located across the street and they are in the same area
When I think of the Stockyards, I think of the area on the north side of St Clair at Keele
THE BEAUTICATION OF TORONTO OHIO MALL ❤ I'M VERY PROUD OF MYSELF
They must be operating this place at a loss - to me it's always seemed empty, plenty of vacant units. I go there for the grocery store and the PetSmart. A few of the meat packing plants refused to sell, so you have one right across from the Timothy's. Not to mention it's pretty brutal/ugly.
I go there for Dollarama and Michaels but that's it and I don't know much about the new donut store which opened on January 27th 2024 to say any opinions about that store
I actually have a card for the games at Nations! 😂 It's a great store also with decent priced hot table
These malls are mostly empty during the winters
I never got to walk around there as it opened up just 2 years after I moved away from the area. It certainly does have that Shops at Don Mills feel but weirder, with lower end stores. I still remember, and have, my Samsung 21" monitor I bought from the BestBuy across the street from there some 14 years ago on a Boxing Day. But seeing the area, for some reason, I can still smell the Stockyards back when it was our slaughter center.
Yeah, I have called it the Stinkyards on a few occassions because of the meat factory which is a few metres west of it
Looking at satelite view, this complex has as much space devoted to multi-level parking lots than it does to stores. Itls a suburban car-centric shopping area with ample parking and without the image of being a "shopping mall". There is also likelt a much lower cost for each shop because they are not in a shopping mall and wonder how different the rent is structure. Also curious on how much of this is one building with regards to HVAC/power/water versus separate buildings attached to each other. Another hint this is car-centric: no park, no outdoor coffee shops/terraces, places to sit. Just the wakways between parking and stores.
From your visit, it does not seem to be a high volume shopping area and if stores persist, it would be due to very low rent.
Hello Sir .. as always beautiful sharing and the settings presentation looks spectacular gorgeous .. TQSM Sir
Go back there in the winter and you'll be annoyed. The only store that i like is Nations. They have a buffet and sitdown area.
I haven't been to this area of Toronto yet even though I've lived in Toronto for over 25 years.I guess I haven't had any business or excuses to visit there but quite an interesting site to look around. Thanks, Johnny for sharing your exploration with us always.
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what i find from the ones i know in Ottawa, 20 years ago.. the Stores are huge, make us feel very small !
Here, looking from the outside looks cool. It is kind of a university campus or going to Disney. It is good to walk outside. Reminds me of Rodeo Drive Beverly Hils .. missing the Palm Trees, though
I literally had no idea all that existed there. I've heard people say Nations was there but i didn't understand where exactly. I used to go to Michael's for work, and when i go to the stockyards area myself I'm there for across the road: Rona home Depot Canadian tire or staples.
Nations is there on the west side on the upper level but the entrance is at street level near the new donut store which is directly below it and which just opened less than a week ago
I visited the place when it was newly opened, and it still had a slight stockyard scent! (I have a sensitive nose: when the wildfire smoke reached Toronto the other day, I could smell something funny in the air...)
I go there regularly and didn't know half of these stores existed. Not really customer friendly trying to find different stores. And it is even worse for the big box stores. They don't get the exposure that is needed and probably pay premium rent.
Hello to all
Best buy is around there somewhere too, winners, marshalls petsmart, I'm always afraid of getting hit by a car crossing to different stores.
Was just there today, my second time shopping there. It’s alright in terms of functionality 🤷🏻♀️ However, trying to locate some of the stores is quite confusing…Love the Asian grocery store there, tho!
You mean Nations which is the name of the store
Need to convert all those parking garages into apartments and replant all those dead trees.
I noted the number of dead "lollipop" trees in planters as well. The areas around those trees are too exposed to heat in the summer and likely receive inadequate water and nutrients to boot. All the pavement will get very hot. The park benches placed in areas with no shade, and located next to garages rather than the restaurants is also just bad. Adding shade canopies over the benches and the occaisional drinking fountain would improve their usefulness.
And absolutely, the southern end of the Stockyards near St. Clair should have no parking garages at all. Replace those with several hundred residential units and add appropriate retail (a bank, laundromat, dry cleaner, convenience store etc.) and you'd get a lot more foot traffic. There is the potential to fix this mess. The brutal exposed concrete elements also need to go.
You can literally be right next to a store and not know you are there. The only thing i like is the view from the top, open to the sky, parking deck. If you shop at the supermarket go all the way to the top level. They have some weird elevators. Look upon it as an urban exploration adventure park. Have fun.
Yeah not the most inviting place to spend time, more like go there for a specific store or two you need something from, get in, and get out. Might of been nicer if they spent the money to bury the parking.
I grew up in The Junction. The slaughter houses had the worst smells. I’m sure they probably couldn’t do anything underground as the soil could still have contaminations. But whoever designed this place really did a poor job.
I’ve only been to the Bulk Barn, Dollarama and the Nations on separate trips. This isn’t a shopping place where I’d say “Hey, I feel like shopping. Let’s go to the Stock Yard Village”!!
between interesting to do a home and home with the Shops at Don Mills and note the differences. In Austin TX, they have something called The Domain which are shops, bars, mixed living. This Stock Yards Village would be brutal to visit in the winter.
i live in that area, when i first down here, from the great wite and it was just finished at that time, but that was when you could get a place for about $500/moth shared usually...............
I went there for the first time ever a few weeks ago, only because it happened to have all the shops ai needed to visit.
I don't know what I expected, but that place certainly wasn't it. Horrible!
Pretty odd. It reminds me a lot of the suburban "Smart Centres" we have scattered all over Durham Region.
😂😂😂😂 RioCan will love your video! Next The Well near the downtown tracks.
The Well is looking excellent so far tbh!
RioCan is great at first. In 3yrs, the Malls are runned down by lack of proper Maintenance.
The Nations used to be a Target
Good morning everyone
I also kinda wish they put the parking/driving on one side so it'd be more pedestrian centric where the shops are.
By way of So. Cal., and a transplant from T.O. You are beloved far & wide, Mr. Strides.
It was clearly designed for purposeful drivers on the go with only one store in mind. Park, shop, and go.
Oh please.
Urban hellscape is more like it ('Lifestyle Centre' - as if). I've been there once, it's just as horrible as it appears. Designed in total service to the automobile (Not Just Bikes would have a field day with this place). You can tell how unsuccessful this place is that on a beautiful June day, the place is practically empty. Imagine walking in there on a rainy and cold November evening. This 'design' is such a missed opportunity to create a welcoming neighbourhood shopping experience. This can't be sustainable, predict in a decade or two it will be repurposed into something more useful.
What should we do if we ever come across you on the streets or in a shopping centre? Whats the code😂
Johnny has said he would be happy if you came up to him and said hello.
Honestly, it's disrespectful to diss on a shopping centre.
You are right, this is yuck, I don't like the layout of this place. Unfortunately, I come here all the time because of convenience. Children's place has closed at Dufferin Mall so this the nearest Children Place for me. You should do Video of Dufferin Mall. It's one of the best malls in my opinion.
I agree ..I feel Dufferin Mall is quite underrated. I went for the first time ever because a friend who lived there said to meet there and was pleasantly surprised by the mall.
Hi,Johnny! Thanks for your vlog in stock yard. I’m enjoy watching you. Even though I’m agree with you it’s a worst design . Not so many people like to hangout. But,love you vlog it. 🙏 thanks.❤❤❤❤❤. Do,I went there sometimes for shopping.
Thanks Johnny for another great video! I agree with your comments that the design of this place is hard to understand. I think I will have to visit now lol
I live 'near' here and its w njghtmare. Even a short trip to one or two stores takes hours. Ive started ordering online when i can get away with it.
It's on the site of the old Canada Packers abattoir and meatpacking plant along with the Swift's plant. Across the street where the big box stores was the old Ontario stockyards where trucks would bring cattle and sheep and pigs from all over southern Ontario and huge unit trains of live cattle would arrive from western Canada. The big packers would buy hundreds of cattle and pigs every day and drive them across St Clair a few times per day until they would be processed into meat products. The place smelled to high Heaven! Once in awhile a more aggressive big bull or steer would break loose crossing St Clair and run away and the packer people and cops would be chasing it in cars and on foot and horseback until they lassoed it and brought it back. You're quite right, it's a seriously weird layout for a mall but it's mostly populated by stores that sell to non-fussy working-class immigrants from a wide range of ethnicities and it's big attraction is that it can be easily reached by TTC by people who don't have private cars and who don't care about it's chaotic and irrational layout. Obviously the developer was high on magic mushrooms and pot when they "planned" this place!
It still smells if you are close to where the current meat factory is which is why I occasionly nicknamed it the Stinkyards
CP and Swift's closed a long, long time ago and then Corsetti (across St Clair just east of Cobalt) stopped its abattoir and finally St Helen's (north end of Gunn's Rd) cut back to meat-cutting only so it's probably SHMP which sometimes gets stinky.. Apparently there's still a Maple Leaf chicken abattoir on West Toronto St just east of Cobalt but it's quite clean and modern plus chickens don't really smell much. In old days the place reeked constantly and depending on the wind direction different parts of the old "west-end" would get a full blast of stink:- my parents lived at Dundas and Dufferin in the 1960s and they would get it down there quite often. We moved later to Dundas and Annette but strangely enough we didn't get it there so much because we were almost directly south and it took an exactly north wind to bring it to us which only seldom happened. Not to worry though:- the fans on the old Robin Hood flour mill were very noisy and of course trains clattered at high speed across the Junction diamond every hour 24/7 and it was like a loud machine gun firing even though we lived a thousand feet away. "Stinkyards" is funny, never thought of calling it that!@@joelsterling1445
I don't know what a "lifestyle center" is (sounds kinda fake), but this isn't really the type of place where you're gonna want to have lunch and then spend the afternoon window shopping.
Look around at the stores that are getting the most traffic: groceries, home goods and furnishing, Home Depot in the plaza just down the way. It's the type of place you drive to for a very specific purpose, get your stuff done, and then you leave.
Could it be nicer with another anchor tenant (department store?), a bigger variety of stores in general, and maybe an indoor food court?
Sure. But it's still nicer than Dufferin mall. 🤮
Come back in January to see how really bad and unappealing it can be there:- even in nice June weather it's a total turn-off and I used to shop there often because of the good access by public transit but it's strictly a "yukky icky" place which will never get better and will eventually be deserted when shoppers have better choices the same as happened to Galleria at Dufferin and Dupont. You go there only if you need to and don't have better choices but eventually the owners will redevelop it for housing or perhaps they will attract custom from extraterrestrials who visit in spaceships (smile!). 😉
You missed the best part. You should have checked out the supermarket. It's a total experience.
Yeah... it's an ugly space and tetting around outside in the mall plaza, watch out for the cars. It should be more like Ala Moana center mall in Hawaii.
With so much surface parking lot, this is an ideal place to build some condo towers.
I don't think you know what surface parking is
@@TheTroyc1982 Oh, the internet, where every self-proclaimed parking guru emerges
Or dedicated event plazas
Its perfect for the modern shopper by owned vehicle...one trip..one store..couple items..home....not deisgned for foot traffic what so ever....!!! Cheers!!!
I don't think "perfect" and this place belong in the same sentence lol but I see your point.
Ummmmm...actually, I know this area because me & my ex gf attended an event called Karen's Diner on the upper floor of Shoeless Joes... Servers yell and insult you lol...as a member of the service industry, I appreciate the fun... I agree the mall is random and is hard to navigate and the transit is BALLS.
I believe the official classification is lifestyle centre.
Totally awesome video 🇨🇦😁
At least it is not overcrowded a n d you have lots of variety❤Not like in my neck of the woods No services or they are copies of the same to fill a retail s p ace😮
I was there for the first time back in April. And yes this is an odd place.
Reminds me of Assembly Square outside Boston ...
When I watch this video I get ads for dealing with constipation:- that's it, this is a bad case of constipated real-estate development in Toronto:- stupid developer had too much money from witless foreign investors so they built an insanely pointless mall with poor layout and no anchor tenant and filled it with second-rank shops owned by companies who also had too much investment money and couldn't think of anything better to do with it. This is definitely an object lesson in the wrong way to develop real estate and its career will be short and unhappy and eventually they will demolish it and crush it into rubble and road-building aggregate:- good riddance! 👎
Funny how the plaza might just have every single name brand store in Canada.
I've never heard of this place.
Thank you for showing us around. I won't be visiting this area. How depressing. I think North Korea might be slightly more interesting to visit.
Nothing wrong with the place. It’s really not that hard to understand. Lots of convenient shops. It’s vital to the area
There is plenty wrong with this dreadful design...
I like this mall
I think people need to remember the developers. They do have paypals.
At least it is better than the Walmart down the street. Noob security
Yes, I remember that Wal Mart at Runnymede and St Clair for the wrong reasons and they were security related
I bet the residents dont miss the smell 😊
For anyone who does, just come by at 6am... I promise that the memories come wafting right back!
You could only have DG or WAWA and nothing else $
Never visited it without my car. Someone's take my elderly father there and I hate walking around it. Hey at least it's better than it was 20 years ago, a slaughter house made the neighborhood smell funkyç
Interesting video. Badly designed shopping center.
first impressions...where the he ,double hockey stick are you!!?
I think its more ugly when you have to take the bus instead of the streetcar hahaha
yeah thats a very depressing looking place =(
Pls take a walk at pride festivities
We want to see
Put a night club there!❤🎉😊
What a mess.
This is a major horror show do they actually have Christmas decorations still up ?
Look at the cheap cement block construction and those stairwells looked like you were in a jail .
Winners , Dollarama,yuk .
This was probably more fun when it was a slaughter house and didn’t stink as much as it does now .
I sure hope who ever designed this disaster has been committed to a hospital for the insane
I will have nightmares after watching this