I just bought this exact bike about two weeks ago. First brand new bike I’ve ever bought. My friend also picked up an MC 250. I know a lot of you guys say you missed the carb bikes, but no carbureted two-stroke I’ve ever had has run better than these TBI two strokes. Only Mitch Payton himself could ever get a two-stroke to run on the same level with a carburetor. I know of multiple people who have put over 100 hours on their KTM TBI bikes already. They are pretty dead nuts, reliable from what ive seen so far.
I just bought a Beta 300 Race Edition. Looked at this bike, but still want a carburetor. Cool bike, but I still like being able to work on my bike without all the new tech. I'm 53 so that may be why.
I’m 65 and have had four WR 450’s over the last seven years and bought a 2024 Beta 300RR last year to compliment the one WR that I still have. The nice thing is, it also has a Keihin carb, so jetting adjustments were easy and similar. Power valve adjustments were also very easy, and with the map switch there is a power delivery setup for every situation. Love the Beta!
If you understand how fuel injection works you can still work on it yourself. Its much easier and less frequent than carburetors. I grew up with carbs, points, adjustable timing etc so i get it but fuel injection is really nice. I have a 23 TPI and i love it, zero issues.
I wish that ktm decided to let gasgas continue with a carburetor setup. They already have two companies with the FI models, let gas gas which is already intended to be the cheap brand continue with the low tech carb engine. I know it will never happen but i would still rather have a carb two stroke over FI for now. Hell give it its kickstarter back too.
I agree with the other comments. GasGas should always be carbureted to separate it from the other bikes. For that matter give it the 2017 TX300 engine and just keep updating the frame, suspension, etc. People will put Lectrons, etc. on them and live happily.
in the weekly feed: "The production versions of KTM’s new four-strokes arrived in 2000. They had electric start, which eventually caught on with other manufacturers, but it would take 10 years." is it me or this not true? crf450x and the wr450f for example, had electric start. the wr in 2003 and the crf in 2005 on its debut. the caption was shown under a 400 exc. ktm motocross bikes didnt have electric start for about 12 years.
This bike being a cross country race bike would not have PDS i don't know why you mentioned that. Of the 3 KTM brands, the bikes with Lights have the PDS but only from KTM not from Husky or GASGAS.
Seems very complicated, an air-cooled engine in the frame with a carburetor would be a great bike. A cheap 10.000 dollar bike? I wonder what sales are like.
Yea...go buy an xr 250 then...and go ride it in arizona while you're at it in the summer....please don't have any contact with bike manufacturers for everyone's sake
@@bjarman125 My experience(in AZ) is that air-cooled bikes work fine, two and four strokes, and few people ride during the day, maybe early morning or in the evening during the summer. I used to ride at night since my bike had a headlight. Watercooling is a gimmick. Every year, the manufacturers claim some new thing to sell bikes. None of my air-cooled bikes ever broke. I see plenty of videos of newer water-cooled bikes with reliability problems. When water-cooled bikes appeared they claimed less power loss during a forty-five minute moto, I haven't seen many people hold the throttle wide open for that long. Those bikes that didn't break, they were using conventional oil. I did run my premix kinda rich. 32/1 for my 250, 20/1 for my 125. Nice smoke and a great smelling exhaust. I'm probably a lot older than you, new doesn't necessarily mean better. carburetors work just fine. Fewer electronics to go wrong. The ability to adapt to major changes in elevation is the only good thing about non carb bikes, for those who can't jet a bike. It's really not that hard. Sorry to ramble on.
@ronwest7930 enduro riding would cause them to overheat within seconds. But yeah imo 4 strokes killed the sportm... manufacturers charged more money for them and bikes got more complicated....2 strokes had half the cc's to compete and so r and d had to go through the roof coupled with the epa regulations which forced the Austrian bikes to do efi
@@ronwest7930you’re on drugs boomer. Water cooling pulls heat from the combustion chamber much faster and allows for a ton more power per cc. Just look at how much more power a 250 water cooled makes compared to air, especially on the 4 strokes. It’s no contest. Air cooled bikes are for kids and women learning to ride these days. Water cooled has been the norm since the mid 80’s and have very few problems in reality which you obviously aren’t in.
@@windsofchangehome274 Yet so many like them. Most bikes with lots of suspension travel have a tall seat height. I've never had a dirt bike with an electric start, people have grown soft.
I always liked the look of coffin tanks on Maicos. The Sand spider models were really nice. I wish I had one now. Maicos always stood out since the owners all seemed to use Castor oil.
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I just bought this exact bike about two weeks ago. First brand new bike I’ve ever bought. My friend also picked up an MC 250. I know a lot of you guys say you missed the carb bikes, but no carbureted two-stroke I’ve ever had has run better than these TBI two strokes. Only Mitch Payton himself could ever get a two-stroke to run on the same level with a carburetor. I know of multiple people who have put over 100 hours on their KTM TBI bikes already. They are pretty dead nuts, reliable from what ive seen so far.
That's killer! Thanks for sharing with us!
I just bought a Beta 300 Race Edition. Looked at this bike, but still want a carburetor. Cool bike, but I still like being able to work on my bike without all the new tech. I'm 53 so that may be why.
I’m 65 and have had four WR 450’s over the last seven years and bought a 2024 Beta 300RR last year to compliment the one WR that I still have. The nice thing is, it also has a Keihin carb, so jetting adjustments were easy and similar. Power valve adjustments were also very easy, and with the map switch there is a power delivery setup for every situation. Love the Beta!
You made the right choice
If you understand how fuel injection works you can still work on it yourself. Its much easier and less frequent than carburetors. I grew up with carbs, points, adjustable timing etc so i get it but fuel injection is really nice. I have a 23 TPI and i love it, zero issues.
I wish that ktm decided to let gasgas continue with a carburetor setup. They already have two companies with the FI models, let gas gas which is already intended to be the cheap brand continue with the low tech carb engine. I know it will never happen but i would still rather have a carb two stroke over FI for now. Hell give it its kickstarter back too.
I just Bought the 2024 EC 300. This bike scares the hell out of me!! I love it! I hope it kills me. " It's better to burn out than to fade away."
Pilot flew that drone right into the tree... 🤣🤣🤣 10K for an injected 2storker dirt bike, Good God... and its computer controlled... YIKES
I agree with the other comments. GasGas should always be carbureted to separate it from the other bikes. For that matter give it the 2017 TX300 engine and just keep updating the frame, suspension, etc. People will put Lectrons, etc. on them and live happily.
rieju beta etc
How does this bike compare to the KTM 300XC?
KAPLAN AMERICA. JUST SET A 500 KIT ON THIS BIKE. 🎯
in the weekly feed: "The production versions of KTM’s new four-strokes arrived in 2000. They had electric start, which eventually caught on with other manufacturers, but it would take 10 years." is it me or this not true? crf450x and the wr450f for example, had electric start. the wr in 2003 and the crf in 2005 on its debut. the caption was shown under a 400 exc. ktm motocross bikes didnt have electric start for about 12 years.
I just feel like gasgas lost It's soul when KTM bought it
Atleast Rieju still makes the pre KTM gasgas bikes
This bike being a cross country race bike would not have PDS i don't know why you mentioned that. Of the 3 KTM brands, the bikes with Lights have the PDS but only from KTM not from Husky or GASGAS.
Seems very complicated, an air-cooled engine in the frame with a carburetor would be a great bike. A cheap 10.000 dollar bike? I wonder what sales are like.
I got my 24 ex 300 on sale for 8500
Yea...go buy an xr 250 then...and go ride it in arizona while you're at it in the summer....please don't have any contact with bike manufacturers for everyone's sake
@@bjarman125 My experience(in AZ) is that air-cooled bikes work fine, two and four strokes, and few people ride during the day, maybe early morning or in the evening during the summer. I used to ride at night since my bike had a headlight. Watercooling is a gimmick. Every year, the manufacturers claim some new thing to sell bikes. None of my air-cooled bikes ever broke. I see plenty of videos of newer water-cooled bikes with reliability problems. When water-cooled bikes appeared they claimed less power loss during a forty-five minute moto, I haven't seen many people hold the throttle wide open for that long. Those bikes that didn't break, they were using conventional oil. I did run my premix kinda rich. 32/1 for my 250, 20/1 for my 125. Nice smoke and a great smelling exhaust. I'm probably a lot older than you, new doesn't necessarily mean better. carburetors work just fine. Fewer electronics to go wrong. The ability to adapt to major changes in elevation is the only good thing about non carb bikes, for those who can't jet a bike. It's really not that hard. Sorry to ramble on.
@ronwest7930 enduro riding would cause them to overheat within seconds. But yeah imo 4 strokes killed the sportm... manufacturers charged more money for them and bikes got more complicated....2 strokes had half the cc's to compete and so r and d had to go through the roof coupled with the epa regulations which forced the Austrian bikes to do efi
@@ronwest7930you’re on drugs boomer. Water cooling pulls heat from the combustion chamber much faster and allows for a ton more power per cc. Just look at how much more power a 250 water cooled makes compared to air, especially on the 4 strokes. It’s no contest. Air cooled bikes are for kids and women learning to ride these days. Water cooled has been the norm since the mid 80’s and have very few problems in reality which you obviously aren’t in.
tm sherco got carb beta rieju to chinese kayo gpx thumpstar
The YZ250X is still my bike of choice.
That's a great bike!
Cool story bro.
Can it power lights to make it street legal?
Why? Vibrates, rich from factory and tall seat height. It's outdated, had one and hated it.And for god sakes Yamaha. Put electric start on it already.
@@windsofchangehome274 Yet so many like them. Most bikes with lots of suspension travel have a tall seat height. I've never had a dirt bike with an electric start, people have grown soft.
Save $700 at purchase, lose $1500 on resale. Buy a KTM, get the better bike, and the lower cost of ownership.
2 3 k less w disount
Make gasgas carb brand !!!
or maico lol
I always liked the look of coffin tanks on Maicos. The Sand spider models were really nice. I wish I had one now. Maicos always stood out since the owners all seemed to use Castor oil.
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