There's another reason, I think, for the aggressively lesbian trope. Part of Japan's particular flavor of homophobia is that girl on girl relationships are something done when you're young, as practice for when you find a guy you like. So the aggressive lesbian is acting, by society's standards, as childish and needing to grow up. In Seiko's case, as she had to practically raise all her younger siblings, it might be the one place she allows herself TO act childish, because everywhere else she has to be the adult.
Thanks for explaining why you like this series, because it's the reason I like it. Not everything has to be bloodless, descent-into-madness, allegorical A24 horror. Sometimes you just want splattery, uncomfortable fun, and that's Corpse Party. Also yes, Yoshiki definitely should have been the hero, not generic harem protagonist dude. Also also, I can't wait for the analysis of HIM. That creep. That weirdo. 😱
Spoiler ahead: When it comes to the reason for the different dimensions, it has been kinda hinted at in the games. I have to preface, it has been a long time since my personal deep dive into the lore of the games. Since the Sachiko ever after charm requires the same group of kids to find each other and redo the the ritual the right way (As explained in Book of Shadows, Naho wrote on purpose the way to fail the ritual on her blog), the dimensions in my rememberence are a way for the kids to never find their way out. Keep them separate, and exhaust them mentally and physically to what Heavenly Host offers them. I do not remember exactly the reasons why the dimensions collaspe and let them regroup, but I think in part it was due to them solving the mystery clue by clue. The dimensions made sense in the games, and without explanation can be confusing. I remember the OVA with only 4 parts, did have a hard time explaining the intrigue of the school. Hope it help a bit clear up! It is a pretty important part of the lore, since so many events are related to them being separated :) Great video! I never went deep into the manga so its really cool to find these! Keep the amazing work!
Hello! I'm pretty late, But I think one of the reasons that the Dimensions within heavenly host collapsed was because of the 3 Ghost children being appeased. As in the game/story, it was explained that they were made to be the cogs that holds the dimensions together. Personally, I do like the idea of all of them splitting up forcefully.
I loved the breakdown, I would say my only real note is that I'd actually say that Ayumi Shinozaki is probably the actual real main character - with Yoshiki right behind her as in the series she's the one (with Yoshiki often but sometimes alone) actually doing the plot progression and most crucial to the overall story.
Enjoy! This actually began life as a much shorter script, but it ended up being something of an analysis of the horror genre in general. It was creeping up to over an hour at one point, as I went into some Japanese mythology and urban legends connected to it, but that's all been moved to part 2.
7:14 And a bit before I think you've switched Naomi's and Ayumi's names but otherwise great video. I didn't even know that there was Corpse Party manga until now, loved the games though :D
@@frightranker no seriously. I’ve been looking for a safe way to engage with corpse party for awhile now😆 your calming voice was really helpful. This is my last childhood fear to overcome! Thank you for helping me🥰
Oho, another person who found this series when they were initially too young. I didn't get a fear of it, aside from the school itself being added to my nightmare settings, but I did get a strong affinity to the series that resulted in me playing it again recently and making it one of my favorites. The rest of the games aren't really as good, imo, but the community and the projects they make around the games are
It's pretty common in Japanese media to make a gay or lesbian character overly aggressive and immature. I think it's a combination of fanservice while simultaneously making a subtle jab at lgbtq people. It's no small surprise that these characters don't tend to win out in the end, often losing in favor of a heterosexual partner. It would be cool to see that trope flipped in a mainstream Manga.
I mean... Their 100% canon in the games with confession scenes, and Naomi and Satoshi never end up together. LGBTQ representation in this series isn't bad, though it can be a little misguided by stereotypes. At least it's one of those series where the characters can be openly LGBTQ instead of being only implied at best.
First the single scariest thing in this entire franchise, is the fact that there is a ritual these kids perform...a ritual which curse the participants to be forced to see the people they went to highschool with forever....just...thats fucking sadistic man. To me the different iterations or dimensions of the school kind of served as means to separate and isolate the kids without having to immediately jump on the trope of " We should split up for a better chance at finding a wy out of here / finding our friends / finding clues / escaping the killer". They do still use the "hey gang, lets split up!" cliche, but its at least somewhat less egregious. I cant speak to Japan, but in the states all 4 of my kids various schools have always structured classes like this. Having the youngest kids on the lower floors is a safety measure first and foremost. They want the littler ones to have the shortest clearest exit in say a fire (or any other types of life threatening emergencies you might have in American schools, cant imagine what those might be.) You also dont typically want to put the little kids up top because theyre more likely to get lost/have tripping and falling accidents. AWesome start though! Have you ever considered a deep dive covering "/Drifting Classroom"? I know you've mentioned it briefly in other vids already. Cuz as it stands the only long form video on the platform right now is a dude summarizing each page of the book, without ever showing panels...its just watching him read it and kind of summarizing it...its very...weird, even for a manga channel.
Drifting Classroom...hmm. Let's just say - it's interesting that you should mention that one. I don't know...something about the title just screams 'November' for some reason :). The ritual isn't that out of place in Japan - there are tons of weird little pseudo-occult things like that (you should see kids before entrance exams man).
Hah. I was actually in school during the original Satanic Panic, which was even crazier in South Africa. Our school straight up banned a lot of things, particularly musicians, including Nirvana, Oasis and The Offspring. Which naturally led all the kids to start listening to The Offspring. It was an...odd time.
@@frightranker considering the front man of the offspring ended up getting a phd in molecular biology and still plays in the band, a school banning their music is delightfully nonsensical. I was only 5 when it started but by the time i was old enough to care I was banned from reading Harry Potter or helping catch pokemon (which come on, im CATCHING them, thats less demons running a muck!)
so recently discovered your channel watched a bunch of your content including the vid on vitiaitors your content is amazing quality and you do good work, I look forward to seeing ya channel grow, May you prosper from your astounding work good sir.
Aww, thanks! Yeah, really trying to turn this into a small business to help myself and the missus out, so hopefully patrons and subs will come in time. Thus far, slow but steady and at least I'm having a lot of fun.
@@frightranker I remember on a different channel I wanted to upload a probably hour an a half video but split it in two 40 minute parts to make the process faster
@@frightranker I’ve been binge watching your videos non stop for the past two days, diving into both your new and old stuff. Normally, I don't subscribe to channels unless they really bring value to my life, but your content has truly been a lifesaver for me. Coming to your channel helps me escape from the stress of college, studies, work, coding, exercise, and relationships. Your passion for horror, the occult, and somewhat Japanese culture is something I deeply connect with, and it’s so refreshing to see someone as enthusiastic about these topics as I am. I really respect the hard work, passion, and research you put into your videos. It's clear how much you care, and that means a lot to viewers like me. I’ve watched enough of your content to confidently say all this. I know this might sound a bit cringy, but it’s genuinely how I feel. Thank you so much for making these videos. p.s. This is the best english I have ever written 🤣🤣
Ok I’m OBSESSED with your videos. I’m going to hint to my husband I want these volumes for my bday! Just in time for spoop season! Also- what is that terrifying clip you used right in the beginning when you say” amateur occultism what could go wrong”? It’s sooooooo creeeepy. Might not be able to close my eyes tonight! LOL
The trope of "aggressively lesbian" in Japanese media is a depiction of Class S relationships. I'm no expert and this is just what I heard from another TH-camr Hazel in her video Vlad Love Is A Disaster ~35 minutes in for those curious.
Yeah, we're going to do a video announcement (we've been planning to for the past two days) but stuff kept happening, and we're still ironing out the kinks.
Part 1 of...at least 2, quite possibly 3 XD. Script for part 2 is already halfway, and I went on a bit of a bender talking about Japanese urban legends and onryo mythology. Hope you enjoy!
I grew up in Brooklyn ny on a notorious street and the lovers lane where the son of sam shot his last sacrifice, it their. Haha Anywho I researched and found out it was called Gravesend. And illegal slave Port in the 1800s. I had a big introduction to the other, some unexplainable, but when it is in my face everyday especially nights. I believe that there is a lei line there. But they had to call it Gravesend, Cropsey wasn't creepy enough.?!
I could not keep the characters straight when watching the anime either… It didn’t help that they kept switching between calling each other by their first and last names and onii/onee chan as well! 😖
Also I found Yuki a little annoying in the anime. She reminded me of Satoko in Higurashi when she starts whining for her brother “niiii niii!” (Ok maybe not quite as annoying.)
The reason the hyper aggressive lesbian or gay guy exscest in anami and monga is not because of Manga being supversive. It mainly does to the fact most straight people create gay characters for there straight readers with out contest or understand. This results in a sexual pandering character
Yeah the Game? Was fun. Fire even. It felt more like a moving Visual Novel than a video game. The mangaa.....not so much. P.s. Can I come to the Higurashi wedding?
SPOILER I've got a question. Does anyone know 𝘄𝗵𝘆 Yoshiki Kishinuma and yuka gets killed in Corpse Party animated series, even though he survives in the game and manga ? And is anyone else pissed as well
The violently sexual lesbian is actually a real thing and is not a commentary on anything. I've had a few lesbian friends in my life and some are extremely aggressive with other women. Shockingly so
There's another reason, I think, for the aggressively lesbian trope. Part of Japan's particular flavor of homophobia is that girl on girl relationships are something done when you're young, as practice for when you find a guy you like. So the aggressive lesbian is acting, by society's standards, as childish and needing to grow up. In Seiko's case, as she had to practically raise all her younger siblings, it might be the one place she allows herself TO act childish, because everywhere else she has to be the adult.
Huh. That's actually a very interesting way to look at it.
Yeah Japan believes lesbianism ends when they find the right man and thus they're more "accepting" of it while also not being that at all.
Thanks for explaining why you like this series, because it's the reason I like it. Not everything has to be bloodless, descent-into-madness, allegorical A24 horror. Sometimes you just want splattery, uncomfortable fun, and that's Corpse Party.
Also yes, Yoshiki definitely should have been the hero, not generic harem protagonist dude.
Also also, I can't wait for the analysis of HIM. That creep. That weirdo. 😱
Oh yeah. Working on the script already...THAT CHARACTER. Ugh. The trope to end all tropes in survival horror.
Spoiler ahead:
When it comes to the reason for the different dimensions, it has been kinda hinted at in the games. I have to preface, it has been a long time since my personal deep dive into the lore of the games.
Since the Sachiko ever after charm requires the same group of kids to find each other and redo the the ritual the right way (As explained in Book of Shadows, Naho wrote on purpose the way to fail the ritual on her blog), the dimensions in my rememberence are a way for the kids to never find their way out. Keep them separate, and exhaust them mentally and physically to what Heavenly Host offers them.
I do not remember exactly the reasons why the dimensions collaspe and let them regroup, but I think in part it was due to them solving the mystery clue by clue.
The dimensions made sense in the games, and without explanation can be confusing. I remember the OVA with only 4 parts, did have a hard time explaining the intrigue of the school.
Hope it help a bit clear up! It is a pretty important part of the lore, since so many events are related to them being separated :)
Great video! I never went deep into the manga so its really cool to find these! Keep the amazing work!
Hello! I'm pretty late, But I think one of the reasons that the Dimensions within heavenly host collapsed was because of the 3 Ghost children being appeased. As in the game/story, it was explained that they were made to be the cogs that holds the dimensions together. Personally, I do like the idea of all of them splitting up forcefully.
For your question about the basins we have water fountains to drink out of but if you wanna wash your hands your gonna have to go to the bathroom
Ah, yeah - that's sort of similar to where I'm originally from then.
I loved the breakdown, I would say my only real note is that I'd actually say that Ayumi Shinozaki is probably the actual real main character - with Yoshiki right behind her as in the series she's the one (with Yoshiki often but sometimes alone) actually doing the plot progression and most crucial to the overall story.
Another long video?! I am pogging out of my mind.
Enjoy! This actually began life as a much shorter script, but it ended up being something of an analysis of the horror genre in general. It was creeping up to over an hour at one point, as I went into some Japanese mythology and urban legends connected to it, but that's all been moved to part 2.
7:14 And a bit before I think you've switched Naomi's and Ayumi's names but otherwise great video.
I didn't even know that there was Corpse Party manga until now, loved the games though :D
The names and characters in this manga, I swear. At least I didn't call her Nanachi!
40+ minutes? God, You're so underrated!!
I accidentally clicked on a compilation of the animes deaths as a kid. It traumatised me. And I’m gonna use this to fight my fears!
No promises! Note the jumpscare warning at the start XD.
@@frightranker no seriously. I’ve been looking for a safe way to engage with corpse party for awhile now😆 your calming voice was really helpful. This is my last childhood fear to overcome! Thank you for helping me🥰
My pleasure lol :)
I know exactly which one too .. they got me too
Oho, another person who found this series when they were initially too young. I didn't get a fear of it, aside from the school itself being added to my nightmare settings, but I did get a strong affinity to the series that resulted in me playing it again recently and making it one of my favorites. The rest of the games aren't really as good, imo, but the community and the projects they make around the games are
It's pretty common in Japanese media to make a gay or lesbian character overly aggressive and immature. I think it's a combination of fanservice while simultaneously making a subtle jab at lgbtq people. It's no small surprise that these characters don't tend to win out in the end, often losing in favor of a heterosexual partner. It would be cool to see that trope flipped in a mainstream Manga.
I mean... Their 100% canon in the games with confession scenes, and Naomi and Satoshi never end up together. LGBTQ representation in this series isn't bad, though it can be a little misguided by stereotypes. At least it's one of those series where the characters can be openly LGBTQ instead of being only implied at best.
First the single scariest thing in this entire franchise, is the fact that there is a ritual these kids perform...a ritual which curse the participants to be forced to see the people they went to highschool with forever....just...thats fucking sadistic man.
To me the different iterations or dimensions of the school kind of served as means to separate and isolate the kids without having to immediately jump on the trope of " We should split up for a better chance at finding a wy out of here / finding our friends / finding clues / escaping the killer". They do still use the "hey gang, lets split up!" cliche, but its at least somewhat less egregious.
I cant speak to Japan, but in the states all 4 of my kids various schools have always structured classes like this. Having the youngest kids on the lower floors is a safety measure first and foremost. They want the littler ones to have the shortest clearest exit in say a fire (or any other types of life threatening emergencies you might have in American schools, cant imagine what those might be.) You also dont typically want to put the little kids up top because theyre more likely to get lost/have tripping and falling accidents.
AWesome start though! Have you ever considered a deep dive covering "/Drifting Classroom"? I know you've mentioned it briefly in other vids already. Cuz as it stands the only long form video on the platform right now is a dude summarizing each page of the book, without ever showing panels...its just watching him read it and kind of summarizing it...its very...weird, even for a manga channel.
Drifting Classroom...hmm. Let's just say - it's interesting that you should mention that one. I don't know...something about the title just screams 'November' for some reason :).
The ritual isn't that out of place in Japan - there are tons of weird little pseudo-occult things like that (you should see kids before entrance exams man).
@@frightranker yea in the states that would just result in Satanic Panic 2: Electric Boogaloo
Hah. I was actually in school during the original Satanic Panic, which was even crazier in South Africa. Our school straight up banned a lot of things, particularly musicians, including Nirvana, Oasis and The Offspring.
Which naturally led all the kids to start listening to The Offspring.
It was an...odd time.
@@frightranker considering the front man of the offspring ended up getting a phd in molecular biology and still plays in the band, a school banning their music is delightfully nonsensical. I was only 5 when it started but by the time i was old enough to care I was banned from reading Harry Potter or helping catch pokemon (which come on, im CATCHING them, thats less demons running a muck!)
@@cheerfulsatanist Haha we never had the Pokemon thing. It was DnD, a lot of music, Diablo and Doom.
so recently discovered your channel watched a bunch of your content including the vid on vitiaitors your content is amazing quality and you do good work, I look forward to seeing ya channel grow, May you prosper from your astounding work good sir.
Aww, thanks! Yeah, really trying to turn this into a small business to help myself and the missus out, so hopefully patrons and subs will come in time.
Thus far, slow but steady and at least I'm having a lot of fun.
I uploaded Corpse Party here on TH-cam. But this is the series. I have been wanting to get a hold of this 🧟♀️
6:47 7:19 **Ayumi
I grabbed my phone just to find this was uploaded 6 minutes ago!
Hah! Nice timing.
It was actually uploaded a bit back, but the HD rendering on YT's end can take *hours*.
@@frightranker I remember on a different channel I wanted to upload a probably hour an a half video but split it in two 40 minute parts to make the process faster
That's literally how I did the final two parts of Made in Abyss.
the intro is fucking good, new sub added
Thanks! This is a very old (and bad) video of mine, please watch something newer :)
@@frightranker I’ve been binge watching your videos non stop for the past two days, diving into both your new and old stuff. Normally, I don't subscribe to channels unless they really bring value to my life, but your content has truly been a lifesaver for me. Coming to your channel helps me escape from the stress of college, studies, work, coding, exercise, and relationships. Your passion for horror, the occult, and somewhat Japanese culture is something I deeply connect with, and it’s so refreshing to see someone as enthusiastic about these topics as I am. I really respect the hard work, passion, and research you put into your videos. It's clear how much you care, and that means a lot to viewers like me. I’ve watched enough of your content to confidently say all this. I know this might sound a bit cringy, but it’s genuinely how I feel. Thank you so much for making these videos.
p.s. This is the best english I have ever written 🤣🤣
Also Battle Royal high school. I only have 1 of this series of horror art films.
Ok I’m OBSESSED with your videos. I’m going to hint to my husband I want these volumes for my bday! Just in time for spoop season! Also- what is that terrifying clip you used right in the beginning when you say” amateur occultism what could go wrong”? It’s sooooooo creeeepy. Might not be able to close my eyes tonight! LOL
I think it's a game called 'Light As A Feather Stiff As A Board'.
Silent hill ost was a nice choice
I use it a lot, it's so versatile.
Ah, I'm late! I ain't get a notification. But let's go! 😆
I never trust series that appear initially cute/moe, Higurashi warned me enough that the bigger the eyes the BIGGER they can get 😭
The trope of "aggressively lesbian" in Japanese media is a depiction of Class S relationships. I'm no expert and this is just what I heard from another TH-camr Hazel in her video Vlad Love Is A Disaster ~35 minutes in for those curious.
Interesting.
I had no idea the Discord server was made
Yeah, we're going to do a video announcement (we've been planning to for the past two days) but stuff kept happening, and we're still ironing out the kinks.
@@frightranker Oh okay it's a cool server
I like the song at the beginning of the video
What's the name
Back to School. I forget the artist.
44 min video? Hallelujah
Part 1 of...at least 2, quite possibly 3 XD. Script for part 2 is already halfway, and I went on a bit of a bender talking about Japanese urban legends and onryo mythology. Hope you enjoy!
@@frightranker thanks again bro
(By chance did you manage to find the song link from 31:45?)
It's called 'Lisa's Theme', from the original Silent Hill game.
@@frightranker much appreciated bro, hope you & the misses had a great trip 💪🏿🔥
Ta mate, we did!
How'd I miss this!? Ahah. Almost at 2k brother!
Getting there, thanks!
Yeah, TH-cam notifications can be weird at times. Make sure the bell is highlighted.
I grew up in Brooklyn ny on a notorious street and the lovers lane where the son of sam shot his last sacrifice, it their. Haha
Anywho I researched and found out it was called Gravesend. And illegal slave Port in the 1800s. I had a big introduction to the other, some unexplainable, but when it is in my face everyday especially nights. I believe that there is a lei line there. But they had to call it Gravesend, Cropsey wasn't creepy enough.?!
Been watching all your videos and "Violently Lesbian" caught me off guard 😂
Haha, it's the best term I could think of to describe that character trope.
I could not keep the characters straight when watching the anime either… It didn’t help that they kept switching between calling each other by their first and last names and onii/onee chan as well! 😖
Also I found Yuki a little annoying in the anime. She reminded me of Satoko in Higurashi when she starts whining for her brother “niiii niii!” (Ok maybe not quite as annoying.)
The reason the hyper aggressive lesbian or gay guy exscest in anami and monga is not because of Manga being supversive. It mainly does to the fact most straight people create gay characters for there straight readers with out contest or understand. This results in a sexual pandering character
Yeah the Game? Was fun. Fire even. It felt more like a moving Visual Novel than a video game. The mangaa.....not so much.
P.s. Can I come to the Higurashi wedding?
Nope....nope nope nope!......had to pause and chuckle for a bit on that one!
Aw, why they killed off the teacher that early.
Yeah, it's an annoying death.
Yes! Also, can't wait to see how they gonna do that 'splat' in the manga :)
Prepare for disappointment!
Aww... :')
Yeah, it's one of the sequences that was substantially more graphic in the anime, for some reason.
W video
Enjoy mate!
SPOILER
I've got a question. Does anyone know 𝘄𝗵𝘆 Yoshiki Kishinuma and yuka gets killed in Corpse Party animated series, even though he survives in the game and manga ? And is anyone else pissed as well
the anime is using one of the bad endings from the game:P
Bad ending from the game gets used for several character deaths.
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The violently sexual lesbian is actually a real thing and is not a commentary on anything. I've had a few lesbian friends in my life and some are extremely aggressive with other women. Shockingly so
Aggressively L take
Life imitating art.
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