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I like how Thrawn showed such anger, disappointment, and disgust when he was forced to use the night troopers. You can tell he didn't want to send his men to that fate.
What are they exactly cause when that one was choking Sabine it looked like a legit zombie
I'm assuming this is being said sarcastically
I also noticed Thrawn said "are these the volunteers" so he didn't even command them
Thrawn:🫤
@howdiihowdle9971 they are volunteers due to the fact Thrawn gave the option to his men. As he didn't want to send then to their fates as they were still living
I’m so hyped for the Night Sister / Aboleth angle. My read is that originally the Sisters were the servants of the Mortis gods and balanced in the force. Then one of their mothers became favored of the Mortis Gods becoming ‘The Mother’ leading to the Aboleth arch. At some point there was a schism in the sisters society with the dark side coming out on top, thus the broken statue of the light side Mortis god.
The war and rise of Aboleth destroyed the planet and turned it into a graveyard wasteland. Not having a way off world the remaining sisters went into stasis.
It's so freaking cool
Aside for the fact that the Ones and The Mother, and The Mother becoming Abeloth, happened about 100,000 years before the Nightsisters even existed. And the same lore states that Abeloth is trapped in the Maw, or Maw Nebulae, near Kessel in the Outer Rims. Not Peridia that's not even in the Star Wars galaxy.
@@jarack3256 None of that stuff is officially stated in canon
@@novustalks7525 I don't recall saying it was canon. Just what the lore surrounding Abeloth was.
@@jarack3256 yeah but what that was in legends
7:20 Morgan’s origins were actually hinted at in the very episode she was introduced in the Mandalorian. I had to rewatch to find this out, but Ahsoka actually explained to Din Djarin that “Her [Morgan’s] people were massacred in the Clone Wars.” Now, while that may not be a dead giveaway, it most certainly is a curious hint when you consider that the attack on the Nightsisters was the biggest massacre/genocide of the Clone Wars, second only, perhaps, to Order 66. And of course, given the language of the dialogue, it would have been unusual for Ahsoka to have referred to the latter of the two genocides.
I’m not familiar with much of legends, but is it possible that Morgan was a child on Dathomir? Perhaps she had not taken this Nightsister initiation rite because she was too young when Dathomir was wiped out.
Merrin in the Jedi games was also a child when her people were wiped out. Not sure if her grey skin and more geometric facial markings are genetic (perhaps Morgan is only a half-breed), tied to some rite she did on herself, animation vs live action, or something else.
Again I’m not super familiar with legends lore, just throwing ideas out there.
General Greivious by orders of Count Dooku wiped them out.. it's in the Clone Wars animation series
While this didn’t take place all during the clone wars, the Geonosian genocide was far worse. After multiple battles during the clone wars, Geonosis was contracted to building the Death Star. In order to keep the plans a secret, I believe their population was sterilized or their queens were somehow eradicated. They fought in an intergalactic civil war for a cause they believed in. They built the largest space station ever constructed. Then they were decimated by the very person who orchestrated the last like 20 years of their existence.
@@natecook06I could see Morgan as being half-Dathomiri, though it might depend on her age and what the lore says on that. Apparently there are some human-like races in SW that can’t mix with humans, and some less human-like races that can. Geetsly’s does a whole video on this sort of stuff, iirc.
The lore can be very confusing or maybe not spelled out very well. The Night Sisters are a clan. Not all the people of Dathomir are a part of that clan. At least that was how I understood it but I might be wrong. In other words Dooku just wiped out that clan not all of Dathomir.
I've been saying this! It has to be an army of night sisters. If they were bodies, there'd be no need to haul them along.
I’ve always found the Nightsisters to be quite unique
And yet they're all alike...
They're one of the most unique parts of star wars
My only question regarding the caskets is are they asleep in stasis or dead? Thrawn awaking the mothers makes me lean towards them not being dead.
The caskets have lights on them and look like friendlier versions of the carbonite Han was frozen in. It also explains how Thrawn was able to "wake" the three leaders. He pushed a button.
It's obvious, why else would Morgan say "for Dathomir" when Thrawn asked her to sacrifice herself.
It's her people in the crates.
yea 100% i know she was a villain but man that was a tear jerking moment " For Dathomir " she knew she would be killed by Ahsoka but she knew this was far more important then her it was about the survival of her people even the great Mothers sensed she died with Honor
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 She knew that she'd either be killed by Ahsoka or be left stranded on that planet, in another galaxy. It was a suicide mission either way.
These are the villains i like. Her and Baylan weren't mustasche twirling "i'm eeeeeviiiilll" villains that has sadly been the staple in the Star Wars movies.
When I first saw these capsules one would assume is was basic cargo such as parts and equipment, but when I saw around the planet that it had very minimal technology I then went to the assumption of the NightSister bodies that were stored into the coffins for transport. Plus Thrawn heading to Dathomir instead of realigning with the Emperial remnants leads to the conclusion of Thrawn finalizing his agreement with the NightSisters to take them all dead and alive to Dathomir to restart the race of NightSisters and Zabraks.
logically its the supply line thats been keeping the army going the entire they have been displaced. a good general wouldnt waste any supplies he might need in case something went wrong. its not like hes going to have a huge force or planet to go back to as the empire has fallen. He may have to live and fight on those supplies for a while. But there are better stories to be told... so its probly not something that practical.
@@JZ-xu3vg You’re very correct about resource management plus the Chimera, although able to travel, doesn’t seem to be in the best space for prolonged combat. After a refit, rebuild, and possible upgrades I’m sure it would help the remnants take back the galaxy from the New Republic.
In Legends, by this time I do believe there’s one SSD still operational and in Emperial hands. I could be wrong since two were destroyed and the others were decommissioned.
if I remember correctly in the old Legends continuity there was one night sister that the emperor feared above all others. if I remember correctly her name was Gethzrrion?
it is the night sister army that will go against luke, shit (mara jade), ezra, and ahsoka in the new movie.
wow surprised to see you here i loved your travel guides over the years
Shit??
How is Shin Hati Mara Jade?
The moment I heard thrawn “woke up” the great mothers, I immediately had the thought that those pods might be filled with living nightsisters in stasis or hibernation and that perhaps they aren’t corpses as we originally thought.
Also based on how the "resurected" stormtrooperd behaved there were non zombie ones too
I think Thrawn said "For the Empire" because he believed the foundations of the Empire, despite its twisted Sith origins, to create a powerful military force to protect the Galaxy from deadly threats. Despite this, the Grand Admiral is also heroic at times because he is helping to revive the "extinct" Nightsister race and cares for those under his service. I believe the Night Troopers are not zombies but soldiers who adapted to Peridea's environment with the help of Magick. Some Night Troopers even volunteered to stay behind to give Thrawn time to escape, with Morgan Elsbeth even being loyal to him despite his status as a Non-Force Sensitive user. The amount of loyalty Thrawn commands is outstanding.
The night troopers weren't originally zombies, they were normal shock troopers who were resurrected after they were felled in combat. Id assume the reason that he asked for volunteers instead of just sending random clone 1 - 30 is because thrawn doesn't believe in much except like the youtuber was saying of "he only cares to protect the ones under him." While he doesn't strike me as a man of science or a man of faith, he does seem like the type to see something like that as unnatural, as he knew about the force immune creatures for a long time in the clone wars. Yet he waited until late in the war where he didn't think the empire had a so solid chance of winning to hybridize them. So I'd say that the night troopers at the end very much were zombies. Though zombies who were controlled by the night mothers, including morgan now since she was fully inducted into the night mothers. In which the last order they were given was "kill" not eat, so they would have no ability to eat Sabine or the others.
When the cargo first appeared, I knew immediately they were caskets of some kind, from the shape, and the fact they were being unloaded from the catacombs. At first I thought they were some of Thrawn's crew, but after seeing just how many of them there were after the transfer was complete made me think they were nightsisters.
In that Cargo Hold scene, where the caskets are all stacked and arranged in columns and rows, on of all of them must contain "The Ark of the Covenant".
I completely agree that the cargo is Nightsisters, I've thought that ever since I watched the episodes. What I want to know is how they will do the whole thing of Thrawn allying with a force user (in legends it was a clone of Jorus C'Boath, though Timothy Zahn originally wanted it to be an evil clone of Obi-Wan Kenobi) and the whole katana fleet thing. What I think would be really cool is if they mixed George Lucas's sequels idea with the Legends sequels and had it be that the Nightsisters are going to focus their magik and maybe do some other kind of magiky thing and resurrect Darth Maul, and have him be the force user that Thrawn uses, and have this Darth Maul though be far more powerful than he was when he died, and have him actually reach more of his potential and learn to use Nightsister magik (Maul actually had a TON of potential, so much so that at his full potential he would have been up there with the likes of Vitiate and Reborn Revan and full potential Luke Skywalker, the level just below full potential Anakin Skywalker, and Maul also would have been a Sith Warlock, as he would have had very strong powers in the force and very strong powers in Nightsister Magik, this is all because Maul is the son of Mother Talzin herself, which a lot of people don't realize)
Edit: I realize you made an entire video about Maul's potential, so obviously you know, but a lot of people who watch some of your videos might not, and I don't know who will read this comment
So, basically, the Great Mothers used the Chimera as a sort of colony ship to revive the Nightsisters culture on Dathomir?
I had a feeling that was the case given how Ezra said Thrawn “woke” the Witches in the fortress it would make sense that more than just the Great Mothers were sleeping in there. Perhaps more Nightsisters and maybe some males (like Zabrak) to keep the gene pool diversified while they repopulate the Nightsisters in the main galaxy.
Awesome. I always felt the night sisters where about as important as the Jedi order in maintaining balance in the force. and yet they were easily wiped out by duku and some droids. lame, but bringing back a bunch mothers to make them stronger than ever will bring a formidable force. Palpatine isnt gonna be happy xD
That's a good guess man. Seems likely!
Any fan who was paying attention knew that the NightTroopers were loading caskets/remains. That’s why “catacombs” were specifically mentioned. What are typically stored in catacombs? THE DECEASED..
Morgan Elsbeth got a raw deal. But she fought well and fought honorably. I’m waiting for Abeloth to emerge in Season 2. I sure want her to appear!!!!
Cargo was totally the remains of the NightSister race. Whether they were deceased or in stasis we don’t know. But we DO know that Thrawn has made three DANGEROUS new friends.
I fall into the “loved it” faction of fans as far as the Ahsoka series is concerned. Yes - it could have just as soon been titled “Rebels Season V - Live Action”. But that’s fine with me!!!! I can even (now) live with Sabine becoming a Jedi. Luke suddenly developed telekinesis on Hoth when a Wampa was about to have him for lunch. He had obvious difficulty, just like he did on Dagobah. And he wasn’t strong enough in this discipline to levitate Anakin Skywalker as he was dying in Death Star II (Luke dragged him). Sabine’s decision to give the map to Baylan is the only head-scratcher for me.
Thrawn's stock portfolio and 401k must be impressive...most impressive. I think you are right on point with it being the remnants of the Night Sister race, however, their loyalty to him may waver after he destroyed their temple with Morgan on it.
yes with the sister reaction
Remember in Rebels the bendu warned thrawn about his defeat from a cold embrace... i predict the dathamiri will get revenge on him for how he used them and destroyed their temple...
they did not look pleased when he gave that order to destroy the temple
If the cargo is indeed the Nightsister race, then this will more likely be where Thrawn holds domain over Dathomir same way he did in "Legends" over the Nogri planet "Honoghr." Where that race of people are in debited to him. The empire "saved" Honoghr from being destroyed in Legends and the people where in servitude to the Empire and they used the people as special ops. Now Thrawn saved Dathomir in canon. Now I can see Thrawn using Nightsisters in the same way
I also believe that Cal and Merrin are on Dathomir and Thrawn doesn't know this. Their child becomes disillusioned with the purging of her people while Cal and Merrin are trying to keep her from following her ancestors. When Morgan reaches her age of understanding her people's history the Great Mother's reach out to her through the force and tell her to leave her family in search of Thrawn and Peridia. They could even explore this in a sequel game to Jedi Survivor which focuses on Cal and Merrin trying to stop their daughter from searching for Thrawn. Cal and Merrin cross paths with Ahsoka at some point who volunteers to stop Morgan to avoid "personal feelings" getting in the way for Cal and Merrin who may not do what must be done (kill her if necessary) to stop her from finding Thrawn. Cal and Merrin return to Dathomir to find the other star map to Peridia. Remember, the Eye of Sion comes out of hyperspace at Dathomir and there is more than one point of transit to Peridia confirmed in the Ahsoka series. This may also be why Ahsoka and Sabine are right where they need to be as I believe Merrin can also sense the great mothers like Morgan. Cal also used to work for the empire at the shipyards in the start of Fallen Order, he knows where to get those hypodrives to modify the Mantis. I have wild theories but I really believe in this one, remember the scene at the end of Jedi Survivor? I'm almost certain about this Morgan is the child of Cal and Merrin. And the two of them transit to Peridia when Ahsoka and Sabine have the "feeling in the stars" right before the Anakin cameo. This is a double meaning and Anakin is smiling because he knows help is on the way. Merrin resurrects and cleanses Morgan at the start of Season 2. They all band together to stop Baylon on Peridia while Hera and Ezra fight Thrawn in the known galaxy. Things become grim for Hera and Ezra. The group on Peridia comes back to save the day just in time during Season 2 finale after Baylon or (Abeloth) is vanquished setting up the Thrawn movie. Ahsoka sacrifices herself to stop Baylon and Thrawn betrays the great mothers in a way similar to how he does Morgan. Morgan helps Sabine, Cal and Merrin get back to the known galaxy and Season 2 ends with them coming back to the known galaxy to fight Thrawn for control of Dathomir the same way season 1 ended only reversed. Most of the action in season 2 is on Peridia with brief updates of Hera, Ezra and the New Republic getting their asses kicked by Thrawn with the turning point happening in the Thrawn movies. Shin Hati was also sacrificed at the start of Season 2 to bring out Abeloth. The raiders have a deal with Baylon and bring her to them to "save the planet." I forgot to include what Shin is up to but she is killed off early... lmk what you think of you can follow my convoluted theory....
Elsbeth flat out said that the "catacombs" were vast. What else do you keep in catacombs?
I absolutely love the idea of Aboleth, even though I barely know who she is, from what I do know, this could be an interesting stoey line (if Kathleen stays out)
Ya know, it kinda bugs me that have Morgan but not Merrin.
I really hope Merrin survived long enough for Ashoka because if it turns out that those are nightsister in that cargo bay, this would serve as a huge test of morality for her.
Would she abandon Cal and the Mantis crew for them or would she still remain where she currently is.
I have a feeling we won't be able to get rid of him, he could be a soul they use as a warrior. A maul type character
3:44 - 3:46 at least roughly 5000 plus possible caskets give or take.
I agree with everything. At first, I believed the caskets to contained the remains of witches, as Morgan referred to how long it will take to accomplish the task of removing the witches from the catacombs. Yet, once I actually saw the caskets had lights (indicating there is a power source), I changed my conclusion. It's more likely they are stasis chambers not catacombs.
I also agree they haven't been in stasis long. Likely this began to occur shortly after the father died, and there was an awakening of sorts on the planet. No doubt, darkness and danger spread throughout Peridea. Night Sisters put themselves into Stasis and concealed themselves in the catacombs.
No doubt Morgan has some connection to the Night Sisters and obviously some training in their magicks. Whether she was with the Empire before the end of the war is an interesting question. Also, of note. Since Morgan did say, "For Dathomir". It will be interesting to find out if she ever found out the connection between the Emperor and Count Dooku. Keep in mind, very few did know even after the war.
Although it was Dooku who commanded the separatist forces behind the Night Witch's destruction, we all know who Dooku orchestrated almost everything through. After the war, any civilization who may have become a threat to Palpatine was pretty much destroyed. Once Palpatine became emperor, it was likely in his plans to eliminate the Night Sisters.
I think you are a 100% right on the money with the nightsisters being in those casket like containers. Love all the deep dives you do.
theres' 1 simple quote to prove it
before Morgan engaged Ahsoka in Battle she said " For Dathomir " symbolizing she was fighting for her people's survival as a race
The Night Sisters appear to have effectively replaced both Noghri (useful species Thrawn can exploit) and Joruus C'Baioth (Force user... that Thrawn can exploit but doesn't exactly trust either) and Thrawn will discard (or they will turn on him) in similar fashion is my prediction.
I think that there are sleeping living Night Sisters inside those caskets. The Night Sisters are all in hibernation, I mean think about it why would there only be 3 Great Mothers alive? Because they all went to sleep until the time to leave the planet presents itself.
Morgan and merrin were the last survivors of dathomir
I understand that, for plot tension, things happened the way they did, but in-universe, why didn’t Thrawn load the cargo early? He didn’t necessarily need to know when or even whether Morgan Elsbeth would arrive. Thrawn could’ve started the transfer weeks, maybe months before Morgan arrived. And then they could very easily just leave when Morgan did arrive.
My guess is he didn’t know the chimera was going to be used and maybe thought that whatever ship Morgan brought would be the one that is loaded up
Fuel. The heavier the load, the more fuel you use.
Shhhhh, don't ask reasonable questions that show flaws in horrible writing. Just consume product, wait for next product. ;)
Because they are the responsibility of the Night Sisters not Thrawn.
Would you dig your family and ancestors out of their crypt disturbing their peace to load them on a ship that might someday somehow be able to transport them somewhere?
The night sisters would likely only disturb their ancestors when the opportunity was real time.
@@JoeyPoolson-lp8vzhey hey, let’s not get too critical lol. Let’s be honest, had Tarkin and Vader not gambled the Death Star by telling their soldiers to intentionally miss and let Princess Leia escape, they would’ve discovered that they also captured the very droid that had the Death Star plans. They literally would’ve saved the Death Star.
I wonder how Merrin would react to seeing the night mothers and Morgan doing what they’re doing considering they’re all involved with the night sisters
Humans actually are part of the Nightsister clan. While there aren’t many human Nightsisters, they do exist so Morgan is not unique. She also was a Nightsister but the Great Mothers christened her allowing her to officially be recognized as a Nightsister
Thrawn has never controlled magic, or force users. It seems like his cargo is one of bodies. Most likely those of the Night Sister People of Dathamir. Plus some or perhaps all of his troopers have green magic in them. Then there is that host of what looks like human or even greater sized caskets loaded onto his ship. So…looks like he has an army of maybe 20,000 magic wielding troops from what we saw in that hanger of his big ship. So he has a very effective assault force.
What else? Some tie fighters, intercepters, and gunships. His big ship needs to put into port for repairs. In order for this to happen he needs a secret location, some place to lay low for a bit. We will see, but I suspect things will be challenging for him before they become better. It also seems strange that Luke hasn’t become involved. May the force be with you!
8:56 im just glad disney actually killed a character from a light saber strike instead of them being completely fine after a patch
In Legends, the y-critters were used to push back the force from the cloning facility (a force-free bubble if you will) so the clones could be grown/matured faster without being driven mad by having a duplicate(s) in the force nearby. C'baoth was the example of the instability that could manifest when a clone was matured too fast. Luke was fine using the force on clones, but he found their signature in the force to be very odd because of the carbon copy effect.
Part of the challenge with the T-Zahn legends material is that it was written before the Clone Wars was fleshed out in the animated series, so the whole duplicate in the force concept really doesn't age well since it never was mentioned w.r.t. any of the clones in any of the animated materials.
It was obvious they are the night sisters sleeping, as soon as they showed the cargo I knew
Right last warning stop peering into my head cannon it's getting me sceard how I watch your vid and you say what's on my mind already 😹
Night Sisters making an undead army for a war makes sense as to why they kept mentioning that if Thrawn returns it will be war.
this does sound super dark and very interesting story.
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When I saw the crates at the end my first thought was that it was dead Nightsisters that would be re-animated or living that they were living ones in stasis that would be woken when they got to Dathomir
I wonder if Thrawn could use the zombies if controlled right to be a 24/7 work force building up his supplies and stuff. I mean them or just use droids lol
I think Thrawn got there and woke the matriarchs from their slumber and made a deal with them, they helped him and he would help them. He could have pointed them to Morgan Elsbeth as a survivor (who could hear their dreams) and also inform them of the fall of Dathomir. As the Matriarchs know Mother Talsin's name, they might have sensed her passing in some way. So Thrawn telling them he knows a survivor, might be crucial to them - for thrawn to escape and for the nightmothers to finally leave that place. I too believe the caskets hold the nightsister race, but not in stasis, but as corpses and that they intend to revive them on Dathomir. They help Thrawn, to restart their civilisation. BUT - they also reacted very negatively to Sabine "reeks of Jedi". Which means they do KNOW the Jedi, and not like Merrin from recent events, but probably from a long-standing feud. I believe the Jedi too have roots in Peridia,(the galaxy) and they might have had a hand in the fall of the Witch-Kingdom (Which would be the classical Knight vs. Witch story). And the Nightsisters want to escape and rebuilt, without getting into trouble with the Jedi again. In the home galaxy the Jedi are all but extinct, and thus they venture there with Thrawn. So I guess it would be a good question whether or not there are dangerous ancient Jedi remnants in Peridia. I also wonder whether or not the Nightsisters will have anything to do with pulling old Palps from the grave.
I want to know if Merrin felt them wake up because she was full a Dathomiri. It will be interesting to see where this goes and if we may see stirrings of this in the Third Jedi game 😊
You've made alot of good points I wonder since we can assume that Jedi like you said also were in thus galaxy if some future story could ever involve them if they are still around. Although if they explore the galaxy more I hope it doesn't feel to much of a copy and Paste from the original star wars galaxy. We already have nightsisters that also happen to exist there. Either way it has alot of potential
I hope it goes In this direction, the shows great he's definitely making all old current new fans happy
He obviously now has firm possession of the Ark Of the Covenant from Indiana Jones/Raiders. Well played Thrawny!
So the Nightsisters channel Abeloths Chaotic use of the force, to form Force Magic?
That is why it is so different from other Force Users, and why it can only be acquired from "infected" worlds, like Dathomir and Paridia?
My money is also that its nightsisters who are still in Stasis. They probably didn't wake them up because it would maybe attract whatever else is on the planet. And all that really only comes into view with Baelen.
I think you are right with everything. Their first stop is Dathomir, and also Morgans "for Dathomir" changed how we look at her entirely.
On top of that I wonder what will become of Shin and her raiders, I guess she will have some sort of arc with Baelen, or maybe she will just continue attacking Ahsoka and the others.
Season 2 will be gud.
Did anyone else notice some of the tanks have lights on them & some don't, I'm wondering since all of them have been put onto the ship if these means the ones with Lights are higher ranking or of more importance were as the ones without lights might be fodder or of lesser importance.
The only superweapon Thrawn would have had any interest in if it was still around would have been the Star Forge.
oh its still around, the star forge was not entirely consumed by its home star, over time it rebuilt itself into the orbital rings around lehon / rakkatta prime.
there it remains to the modern times (galactic empire & beyond) in the SW galaxy, waiting in obscurity to to visit horror & utter conquest upon the rest of the universe.
Note the Purgill husk may trap something there....like a prison. Abeloth does have smile of Purgils
there are 5000+ of those cargo container(or caskets idk) and if they are all night sisters then they will be a force to be reckoned with.
This is what I have thought for several episodes, and when Ezra said Thrawn "woke" them up, I was certain.
I think that's the one huge thing this show messed up with, not giving a 5-10 minute Ezra storytime about what happened to him and thrawn since rebels. It would have let the audiences who aren't into the lore or other shows get why thrawn is so "bad" and set up the threat he is
@@andrewbaskett8581 I don't disagree with you, but I expect that will be happening in Episode 1 or 2 of Season 2. Assuming of course, that comes before the Trawn movie. If so, I think they'll give it some time, as Ezra tells the story to others in order to show them WHY they have to care about Thrawn.
@@TheYuleTube thats a very good point. I just wish the show would have given some payoff to, seeing your lost friend who you came across the galaxy for. IT was almost like they said hey, but then didnt talk about anything else.
@@andrewbaskett8581 My guess is, it was more about runtime. *I* would have liked it, and longer runtime would have been great to me. But some people are whiners, and need nonstop action. /shrug
@@andrewbaskett8581 I think the talk was had, but it was implied only on screen, and happened offscreen for time reasons.
The first two theories could have been thrown out just by pointing that Thrawn was taking aboard the cargo as pre the agreement with the Great Mothers. So the cargo was never Thrawns, and it was in the catacombs all of which we find out in the first 3 minutes of Thrawns appearance. It with Ezra's comment was pretty spelled out form the get go. So long video to say something that was pretty well written in and, I'm not a huge fan of the show as is.
But if this was just to reanimate them then why wait?
Really feel the final 2 episodes crashed and burned. Sabine never earns it, she could not even slightly move a cup and she instantly goes from that to pulling her lightsaber to herself to then doing a force push that would make Yoda blush. I knew this was how it was going to go.
Agreed but like you said these days training discipline none of that matters I liked the show but ya there were many many stupid moments like that and some of the fight scenes choreography I should say was horrendous lol
Just learned about the mother now I’m team abeloth. This movie is gonna be so good
Well, At the very least the is a plan set out. Hopefully whatever is next is a good consistant story that I can follow along with.
Nightsisters are my favourite part of star wars so this is an actual dream come true
Perhaps an army of dead dathomiri with armor made of the gold like material that was used to repair the Chimaera and the armor of the nighttroopers
I do believe that the cargo is sleeping Nighsisters. Thinking they need the water of life &/or other resources from Dathomir. ... But, I don't believe they're loyal to Thrawn. That look given when he ordered the destruction of their temple was very much telling.
It was a deal that neither truly plan on honoring.
What I'm thinking at least. ... And can't wait to eventually find on out 🎉
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Eh destroying of the temple is not that big of a deal, maybe it even releaved the Nightmothers in a way that they now know that their exile is over and they can leave this place. But it also means that they most likely can never return here.
I remember thrawn using the ysalmiri to block clones from the force to prevent clone madness, but I don't remember them being spliced with the clones
I do wonder whether all the great mothers have all been held in stasis...able to project themselves somehow, talzin did a similar thing to marrok when she died.
Imaginen a reborn maul and his bro savage or both in zombie mode with extreme abilities. Would be really cool.
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The cargo could just be old corpses of the natives to Peridia that are well preserved. Maybe they had good techniques of entombing/preserving bodies like the Egyptians did. Ahsoka seemed to be on even footing with Elsbeth both times they fought and she didn’t use the force on her. Maybe because she’s immune to it?
Or they could be nightsisters that are dormant. They mention that Thrawn “awoke” the nightsisters when he showed up on Peridia. So it could be an army of spellcasting witches that he needs to bring to Dathomir to resurrect.
Also the natives to Peridia were said to have come to the Star Wars galaxy and landed on Dathomir first. It’s very possible that there’s some old prophecy or something about needing to make that journey and they believe Thrawn is the one to guide them there. So they may have some cult-like devotion to him.
I think you're right on the money with this. The Great Mothers wish to return to their ancestral home of Dathomir and repopulate it with Night sisters and possibly Nightbrothers as well. Why else would Thrawn go to Dathomir 1st upon returning to the known galaxy. I think the night sisters are originally from the Star Wars galaxy but made their way to the new galaxy and conquered Peridea. Of course they did not realise what terrible evil lay dormant on the planet (Abeloth?) It is interesting because the Zeffo also seem to have been on Peridea at some point possibly prior to the night sisters and maybe they fell prey to the dark power also. I definitely think the crates hold the rest of nightsister race and they are in stasis/sleeping and will be awakened on Dathomir. Of course how much use will they be to Thrawn. We see the Night sister army in clone wars fall to general Grievous and his droid army and they had the assistance of the army of the dead. The Great mothers themselves though will most likely be the biggest asset to Thrawn. Mother Talzin's powers rivalled Darth Sidious's at the time of the clone wars, if these 3 Great Mothers are as powerful or more powerful than her that would make them fantastic allies in Thrawns campaign against the new Republic. I still would like to see Thrawn go in search of the Ysalamari as that would be vital against a jedi as powerful as Luke Skywalker. It will be interesting to see just how powerful the Imperial remnant is and how many forces he will have at his command if they all (as they should) rally to him. I forsee conflict with Bryndel Hux though as I do not think Thrawn will care for his plan to resurrect Palpatine who I'm sure Thrawn secretly blames for the Empires fall. Very much looking forward and hoping to see Thrawn go to the Chiss Ascendancy at some point also. I'd be pretty happy to see Thrawn feature in the next few seasons of the Mandoverse shows and get a trilogy of movies.
I came to the same conclusion.
I thought about it for a second and went "Hold up, why are they panning over these containers- Those are fucking Nightsisters in Stasis aren't they?".
I thought the shot of the creates where coffins of lost troopers
i mean you say it cant be some special resource from that planet or galaxy like a spexial metal or crystals and thrawn disnt put all his eggs in one superweapon , but if they were spexial crystals that could theoretically make many superweapons say a whole bunch of star destroyers with death star lasers on them. If theyre trying to mesh to the new trillogy this could be a thing , i personally hope its not but it is not outside of reason.
Peridia's main export is witches? I guess that's sorta rare.
Such an intriguing theory. I hope it comes true.
Dave Filoni has a hell of a habit of catching us off guard. He said this open one direction and then suddenly it something else. The episode the Jedi in the Mandalorian, for example.
I certainly wasn't expecting to see Ahsoka, especially labelled a Jedi.
But calling Baylan doesn't seem to have bothered the other inhabitants, Abeloth would have had them for lunch. The Night Sisters were really up against the Mortis Mother, they would have allied with her. They do have a very similar philosophy.
Also, according to legends she was imprisoned by her Family in the centre of the galaxy and Luke is going to have to deal with her in the next few years.
All of this may not be canon, a phrase I think we need to be shot of as it seems to be different each week. There are other dark things in the Star Wars universe.
What about the Yuuzhan Vong? Where were they before they came to the Star Wars galaxy? These are all just thoughts of mine. Filoni will no doubt pull something out of his bag of tricks we don't see coming and I'm looking forward to it.
The cargo are the Nightbrothers 😎😎
I can't wait to see what happens next as it sets off to a new story/plot & how the new Republic is going to handle with Grand Admiral Thrawn's return..!?🤯🙀😹😸🙃😬😬
He obviously kicks some ass and eventually goes down with the ship making way for the first order and all that jazz.
@@JZ-xu3vgwas about to say that lol it's obvious how it wil go like always. But still hope it will be great
You have this correct I am virtually certain.
It’s also an incredibly important fact that these caskets were not moved until the very last second. They had years to move these onto his ship. Why couldn’t they be moved sooner? 🤔
Probably didn't view the ship as safe.
I wonder are those boxes child nightsisters to be possessed, or former host of Abeloth in stasis. And where were the other night brethren
This is a really good theory that's also well explained and proven. Even if it doesn't come true, we can appreciate this channel not trashing on the show for having had their bozo theories clowned on, like someone else usually does.
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I want to know about the " gift of shadows" given to Morgan, maybe we see next season.?
It's clearly bodies inside since from the time we saw thrawn he said to transfer the catacombs...
Where does project necromancer come in the star wars story ? WIll Gideon and Thrawn connect in a spin-off/mando S4/Ahsoka S2.
I'm sad that we have to wait for more answers, it's gonna be a long wait lol. Patience...more and more patience 😂
Thing is, the witches primarily stayed on Dathomir. They would not make an effective army for the Empire. Unless they offered to serve some other way.
Ah........ night troopers I was all happy aswell, before we knew what they were and called I said to my friend I think their death troopers, because their was coffins or so I thought being hover crafted across the ship, and used my brain on the troopers suits of armour as their like kylo rens and the Japanese technique of peicing broken things together as logic to thinking it's dead or blown up troops being repaired physically with night sister magic to help them "do the job"
I think it would be awesome if the mother (abeloth) was one of the first nightsisters, or somehow created the first night sisters
Wow! 😮😮😮
Nightsisters are probably a retcon for the nogri in this new story of Thrawn.
Now thrawn has returned with an unstoppable army and the shadow council will join him soon
I wonder if we'll see Cal Kestis and Merrin in live action related to this plotline.
My original thought was: "A Star Destroyer usually has a Trooper compliment between 9-10,000, and we've only seen maybe 50-60 Troopers in action. What if the pods were the rest of these "new" Troopers waiting to be infused with more Nightsister magic."
Perhaps the night sister magic is a direct result of Abeoth’s power. Wicked, sinister green magic from another universe that she gifted them for worshipping her and the mortis gods?
I guess Merrin can go back when the ancestors come back. If Cal and her still together at this time
They also clearly said they need to empty the catacombs before leaving.
What if the night sisters were given their magick by the ones inorder to help contain abeloth...with their passing her powers have leaked out and she's becoming to hard to contain...hence their desire to leave.
Wow!
You have been having a few audio mishaps recently man stay on top of it! Good content nonetheless
Could be possible that Maul, like Marrok is brought back to life? The Sith that's hard to kill? And this bring in the trilogy that George had in mind?
Looks like 9-12 rows, of 9 stacks, of a 3x20 stack(60 containers per stack), roughly 6500 "caskets". Not a scary army of troopers, even if they're zombies. 6500 Night Sisters is enough to wreak some havoc.
Could it be that Morgan Elsbeth is a child/ decendant of Quinlan Voss and Assaj Ventress?
That explaining her half human orgins and connection to the nightsisters. She showed so signs of knowing magick? Neither did ventress from the clone wars. Quinlan is known to have been a survivour and on "the path" in the kenobi series...