Will Man Utd build a new stadium? | BBC Sport
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- BBC Sport visits Old Trafford to find out why Manchester United are exploring options for renovating or expanding their home - could they even build a completely new stadium?
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From a season ticket holder - this stadium would be hugely improved if they sorted out the basic things. It doesn't need a massive revamp, it needs the roofing fixed so it doesn't leak onto the supporters. The card machines need to be reliable so people can actually buy food and drink when they're not taking cash. It needs, and I can't believe I'm saying this in 2022 - WIFI! There is NO signal in the entire stadium. If you got regularly and experience these issues, you are left thinking why is a huge revamp being talked about when just the basic necessities that half of league 1 stadiums have aren't in place at OT.
Stadium would be better if filled with proper Utd an big firms in every part of the ground like yrs ago 🔧🍺
@@redflag8970 ‘Big firms’….haha you are a wet lettuce!!
@@Laptopdog78 haha
What if, they:
extended the South Stand
made all stands 3-tiers
spaced out the seats (I see everyone looks cramped)
new roof
improved lighting
wifi
improved hospitality and more bars
Samsung, Apple, Google and NFC-pay
@@Clark_Kent_ZA ………and brought back Ole to manage the team?
What the glazers should do is sell the club to someone who actually will spend money and care about the club
bruv they spent hundreds of millions we just had awfull scouting of players,but yeah we need them out
yes they have not spent enough on players recently :/
@@LocalNoob_2 I’m not saying they haven’t spent money but bro they can’t even bargain properly Manchester United get scammed all the time the scouting is shit the problem with the club is the owners
Sell it to the arabs
@@hasanabdi3536 truss me bro I agree they had a chance to sell it before to the Arabs but refused they need to do a huge protest for them to sell the club
Unfortunately, owners that we have, have totally ruined the reputation and legacy of this great club... This stadium was such a fortress for us, where dreams used to come through.. No matter if we should build a new stadium, it'd still be old as long as the Glazer's are still running it... We can only have a rebuilt by getting rid of the head..
Not true
They are talking about physical stadium
It always makes me laugh when they talk about dreams in regard to Old Trafford and sing Glory, Glory Man United! A man should try to fulfil his own dreams rather than seek vicarious glory in the successes of some football club. Football is only a game however seriously some people take such circuses which distract the masses from more serious issues. And someone using a username like yours should note that, as William Anderson tells us in 'The Face of Glory', that true glory is attainment of Divine Illumination through meditation.
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 agreed! Well done sir
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 Always makes me laugh when some supercilious Arsewipe, talks shite
Renovate! It's Old Trafford! You wanna move stadiums so you can have beer come up through your cup? The ground needs renovating and updating for sure. But that ground is special, make it work without tearing it down.
It’s been neglected too long for it to be even updated
Fans doesnt need a fcking new stadium , they need renovate the team .
Theatre of dreams. Why would you knock it down. 100% there is a way to renovate it.
@@chaisesamargis3149 no it hasn’t. I doubt you’ve ever been there
@@chaisesamargis3149 that's not true the whole thing was rebuilt during the 90s and 00s
Do what Real Madrid done to theirs upgrade but don’t demolish it.
We need to do that and move from 7500 to 9000
@@ranolcrooks4321 agree 100% 95k seating even would create such an amazing atmosphere 🔥👌
@@paddylast5839 facts need to give old Trafford a do over top to bottom 95 to 1000 go be fantastic cause it have so many more fans who would love to come watch games and can't
@@paddylast5839 we need this done it will be so beautiful to see it happen maybe in the next 2,3,4 year's if it's the same ppl or new owners
If it comes to it and they decide to build a new stadium I expect 100,000 seats,a large family area and overall for the stadium to look nice made out of quality material like red brick.
I would love to see stadium rebuild again while keeping the iconic roof design and traditional rectangular shape of the stadium&three tier on all sides . Don't really like the toilet bowls designs of modern architecture.
Issues that must be addressed- enough knee space between seats and height to not cause obstruction of views. Roof leaks should be fixed and roof should not obstruct view. Well developed concourse. Stretford end should have rail standings ( cheap tickets for more locals in Stretford end) to improve atmosphere. Facade should have influence of traditional English architecture designs with bricks(anfield main stand design)and not like it is now.
Sir Jim could help
Imagine having 100,000 disappointed fans every week 🤔
@@allanp865 tee hee. Imagine having twenty thousand empty seats in your council house. Stockport dwellers
@@allanp865 You lot cant even fill your own stadium and your about to win the fucking league 🤣
Gotta keep that iconic exterior… New stadiums look amazing but feel sterile, just fix the stadium, increase the capacity and we move
The exterior is a mess and needs a total revamp but can be done in phases over 3-4 seasons.
Iconic exterior? Looks like a 90s council estate
Needs to be 100k at least
Iconic lmao it needs to be like Madrid and barcas new stadiums
@Phil The world is ever evolving, move with the times otherwise we will fall far behind. Whether we like it or not it's what modern football is and we can't afford to let sentiments get in the way.
I think it would be pretty sick if they expanded the stand over the railway line and put a station inside the stadium, and have it so you scan you match or season ticket to get straight through
That would be an awesome feature but the cost would be astronomical because they would be building it around an active section of the rail network as they couldn't just close the line for 12-18 months during construction.
@@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 you get engineering hours so u can work when the trains ain't running every night
@@bradjeffs7122 I'm not saying it's impossible but the logistics of it plus the length of time it would take would make it way more expensive than if the railway lines were, say 10meters further back. This is part of the reason the current owners won't do it.
@@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Well the Emirates Stadium is built on top of two underground train lines, so it should be possible considering the money we have.
@@goldie8501 definitely possible, and the club definitely has the money for it. Doubt it will happen tho
NO! OLD TRAFFORD IS BLOODY ICONIC! JUST CLEAN THE WHOLE PLACE UP!
It’s been neglected for too long to update it
Yeah blame the glazers
It needs a face lift and expansion.
It needs knocking down and rebuilding…..nostalgia is one of the biggest killers of success, I don’t have time for it. Respect and remember the past, absolutely, but being brave enough to embrace change is often the key to being successful in the future.
@@rufdymond i want a football ground not an American style arena where they sell hot dogs at your seat
Wow! Juventus’ stadium looked awesome!
It's nice but it's too small
@@XXDETENTIONXX it’s because they’re smart. They want to have it always filled up for the atmosphere and it worked.
@@FatTodd You can have a big stadium and a good atmosphere..
@@XXDETENTIONXX Yes that’s possibly what they need the previous ground they had was way too big. It was awful.
@@NoName-jq7tj i liked the delle alpi....but I understand why they moved.... however 40k is way too small for club that size
Aviva Stadium, originally Lansdowne Road, in Dublin had a very busy rail line running under the west stand. Rebuilt with minimal effect on the line.
The old Trafford on of the most iconic stadium in the world. Just dreaming to be there once in my life so that i can die peacefully.
it really is an incredible place as a football fan you can feel something special in the air there all the history some of the greatest men who ever played the game walked on that field 112 years of History not even the Luftwaffe could completely destroy our home
Great video, i'm a United fan from The Netherlands and it's nice to get a few of the stadium from this point of view. I can understand the struggles. Thank you BBC Sport
I'm a Liverpool fan and Old Trafford is a proper old school ground,the name is famous throughout the World.who cares about comfy seats and nice food and beer..it just needs a bit of work doing on it that's all..I'm so glad we redeveloped Anfield..it's were my Grandad went in the 1920s till he died,it's were my dad went in the 40s up till he stopped going..it's were I been going since the late 70s to the present day,it's were my lads have been going since the late 90s..the old pubs like the Flat Iron,The Park,The Arkles,The King Harry and the Sandon..the whole area is a part of history and you should always keep it sacred.
top man spot on 👍👍👍
👏🏻 👏🏻 Respect to you Colin 👍🏻
It would be sacrilege if United were to play anywhere else than Old Trafford. Just like I couldn’t see Liverpool ever playing anywhere but Anfield. Both clubs & grounds are iconic, steeped in history & known everywhere. It just wouldn’t be the same. You hear many fans of Arsenal, West Ham etc say how it’s not the same at their respective new stadiums. If we did, I also wouldn’t put past glaziers to sell naming rights of ground to line their pockets further. Sadly, they have no care for history of club.
All the best Colin
I agree with everything, we need a new stadium
I’d love for us to have a new stadium or improve on OT but if we do it shows the glazers won’t be selling any time soon. Hopefully Jim Ratcliffe makes a did for us and they accept Glazers Out!
Need to build a new team first 😆 🤣 😂
Yh but the stadium needs to improve great iconic stadium but there is holes off and on the pitch
@@abdubinyaameen6188 there's holes in your team mate and it's like a having a car before a house just doesn't add up lol
@@1200montana i said we need to sort it on and off the pitch
Would like both to be honest
Old Trafford should be the biggest stadium in England. Just add one more layer
And keep that roof leaking and what about the seating that has been shite.
OT is already the biggest club stadium in England.
@@keithmullins78 But so outdated man. Cramped seat barely fit for a 5'9 person, leaking roof and rats problem. We need a new modern stadium.
The North stand with its triple tier holds about 71 people per liner foot. If United had done the Stretford end, South stand and K stand in the same design as the north stand (triple tier) that would give united a 96,000 capacity, and that is without the quadrants. With triple tier quadrants, that would give Old Trafford a 120,000 capacity, or one of the largest stadiums in the world.
The old Landsdowne Road ground in Dublin had a train line running under one of the stands literally while the main stand at Villa Park has a big road going under. Surely they could box the train lines into a big tunnel and then build on top of it to create additional volume and the start of the art hospitality that other clubs experience?
yea but doing so would require a SuperStructure you are talking about some THICK concrete and steel and reinforced steel and concrete
The underground literally travels underneath the Emirates Stadium so yh, they can make it happen
@@goldie8501 Interesting because so does the underground in Newcastle at St. James Park.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 With today's engineering it is possible though and probably cheaper than a full stadium redevelopment.
But Utd already have large capacity
We do need a brand new stadium. If you consistently visit you'll realise how cramped the seating is and how poor the facilities are.
Build it on the same footprint.
Its a football ground. Seats are always cramped.
@@stretfordender11 that's not necessarily true, someone told me Spurs' and City's stadium seating is more spacious...
@@nickraoyj thats because citys stadium is empty
@@nickraoyj that's because spurs stadium is the most modern stadium now
@@JAG-xf2hm 😂
Is that jay! Good on you lad.
Expand over the railway line so it's like the opposite side and in the new quadrants put a big screen in both new quadrants.
As a spurs fan a new united stadium would be amazing. I see restriction with space but that’s not a problem. If you buy the land on the other side if the railway tracks then incorporate a train station into the new stadium. That’s how it should be done
THE GLAZER'S DESTROYING THIS CLUB FROM THE INSIDE!!
As a Man United fan, I now understand why Arsene Wenger is a legend.
there's so much land around the stadium that has so much potential to build annexes and facilities as the extension of the stadium.... utilising the river side is a big plus
My cousin's wife works in the offices at Old Trafford.
On match days all the office is covered in plastic sheets.
The toilets are above the office and it leaks through.
Imo we have to keep Old Trafford. Yeah other teams have built new stadiums but no other club has a stadium quite like ours in terms of its history, prestige and meaning. It does look incredibly cramped where it currently is though and that train line gotta go. Major Refurb is the best option
@taken knight123 Agreed
Mate the stadium looks like absolute shit. All that ugly white scaffolding built around it looks like some shitty 1970’s shit
Mmm Annfield
@taken knight123 oh fr what they are doing with the Bernabeu is insane same with Camp Nou that is the direction we should be heading in
Don't get me wrong - ferguson was awesome, but full respect goes to wenger over his overseeing of the move to the Emirates stadium. He brought revolutionary plans for diet, training, skilful link-up play as well as having to financially absorb such a move, to the detriment of his squad latterly.
One thing I always say about the two is fergie dominated English football where as wenger revolutionised it
Yous both are an example of TH-cam commentators with no clue stop talking about what you know nothing about, if you think fergie didn’t revolutionise football then just piss off eh like fucking hell lad sir Alex built Man Utd’s academy from the ground up and made us the biggest club in the world he revolutionised what we call man management . Yous are embarrassing
Although he had input, the move wasn't up to Wenger. Such things are always decided at boardroom level.
I’m for the Real Madrid approach
oh for real a nice 5 year plan to build up the stadium
Honestly the issues with Old Trafford are over exaggerated at times. I was there a few times this season and it's still a very impressive stadium. The Sir Bobby stand needs renovation to increase the capacity but other than that it's actually fine.
its fine but its not modern like other stadiums being built today.
True. Man United fans may as well be greatful that they aren’t playing at fedex field or owned by Dan Snyder
@@erictowns7553 And I don't want it to be. Its an old unique ground with rich history. The new stadiums are soulless bowls that all feel the same
It’s just another dig that’s all . Arsenal fans an West Ham say they prefer old grounds. To many modern fans with modern expectations
Mate the stadium looks like absolute dog shite with all that white scaffolding looking bollocks going on tear the fucking thing down and build something new for fuck sake
Went there as a kid in the early 00s to watch Chelsea play Liverpool in the fa cup semi whilst Wembley was under construction, and the view from the top tier seems so far away compared with other stadia of similar capacity. Iconic stadium, yes. Great views, na mate
Thats how you know the Glazers dont give a damn, the stadium has been like this since around 2015
Since 2007
I have been to Old Trafford so many times down the years it really is a Magical place but is also so tired now but redevelopment for me is the way forward but it has to be a huge upgrade as when visiting places like Spurs or Arsenal it is clearly so far behind the times, we need Old Trafford back where it belongs as the most iconic and best Football Stadium in the world.
I plan on going to England this year visiting a friend in birmingham, and i am making a quick stop in manchester on my way back to Portugal, i need to visit old trafford and make my younger self happy before this piece of history goes away.
I'd do what they said in the 4:36 mark and just build a bigger 88-99k stadium where the car park is and just make the current stadium into a new training stadium or the women's stadium plus where the youth games can happen,after the new one is completed anyway and until it's not completely built, they can keep playing their games there
Ot needs to be on the same location
@@ibrahimmahmood8821 doesn't need to but it should. The railway line is ruining the stadiums potential of a proper expansion and also proper rebuild similarly to spurs. Its best to just build a new stadium where the car park is and make sure its as big as it can get. Wembley may be 90k but that doesn't have to be the biggest stadium in England, if it does, they can expand that past 100k and make Old Trafford bang on 100k because the stadium always sells out
They need to take Reall Madrid's approach...
@@FirstnameLastname-cp9lr they won't
@@mohammedfaiisal with moderate day technology the railway line is no longer and issue. There is a railway line at the back of the Aviva Stadium here in Dublin but they have manage to build the stand around it
No mention of the swathes of land the club own. This shouldn’t just be about a new stadium or redevelopment, it should be about a master plan for Trafford not just United. Missed out on getting in on the Quays developments or media city, didn’t want the metro link expansion - there truly is some short sighted ambition-less muppets running United.
My preference would be a new stadium and reconfiguring OT into a quality venue for the Women’s and Youth sides. Make the current structure the genesis of everything we do and retain the history that way. OT could be a 52 week a year destination if the owners had some ambition. Ultimately they have never known the size of the opportunity they stumbled upon.
One thing fans never comment on is if United add 16000 seats upto 90,000 do they think they will go to new ST holders or tourists paying £50 a pop? The glazers want tourists not new ST holders because they will almost double their take per seat. Plus the away allocation will go up. United need to be ambitious - and we will never get that with the Glazers.
Totally agree my nightmare is given the glaziers are real estate people? how much is the swathes of land owned by MUFC worth to a real estate/developer salford/manchester is being gutted & redeveloped the prospect is frightening anyone who wishes to compare MUFC & the shopping malls owned in america by guess who? are being left to rot......
Lies again? National Stadium Arena
For me Old Tradfford reminds me of the 24th October 2021 afternoon premier league match and fans flocking out of there
Hard one for me. I remember the revamp in the 90s and it being the most modern stadium in the country. 30 years has fly by so quickly and it does look a bit tired in places. A new Bobby Charlton stand that somehow bridges that railway line . The railway like would have to be sunken deeper down and that's where all the financially go silly.
Its easy for teams to just say rebuild the stadium from the ground up and tear it down. But for clubs that have made sporting history these grounds are almost like a historical landmark for visitors, tourists. The infrastructure has to be rebuilt from within. The ground can look old school and vintage but the facilities inside have to be improved, seats, venues inside the ground for tourists and match goers.
we cannot tear old trafford down.
oh for real and i would hope even rival fans can recognize the incredible history of this stadium because as much as i don't like Liverpool i would say tearing down Anfield would be Sacrilege to Football and would strongly be opposed to such a move like Old Trafford Anfield is an incredibly iconic stadium stacked full of history we need to save the iconic stadiums of England we sadly already lost White Heart Lane and Upton Park Maine Road and Highbury
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 absolutely agree Kurt 👍🏻
The problem is the stadium structure. Is the structure strong enough for upgrades? If it's not, it will be more difficult and cost more time and money than building the new stadium.
Jay motty looking all shiny in the manchester sun😜
as a leicester fan who went this year, it needs so much work. Concourses are shocking, where we were sat just had nothing to it. Away end with a 5-10ft height shift in the middle. Its a historic ground, one i dreamed of going to since i was a kid, but now ive done it im disappointed. Need a new stadium with better fan services and supporter areas.. Atmosphere cos of its size isnt great so something like Spurs with steep seating would work to direct noise down to the pitch, not out into the surrounding areas
I’m not against a new stadium ,however
It would have to be something truly beautiful and amazing with the biggest attendance to get me fully on board
I think United can still fill a 80k or 90k seater capacity.....hopefully the developers consider expansion
they have over 120.000 people on the waiting list for season tickets.
Reading all the comments from United fans about renovating reminds me of when we moved out of Maine Road. There was a history there, too (don’t laugh!) and it was a sad day when it got pulled down. But that said, I don’t miss it as much as I thought I would. The Etihad is roomier, safer and has better facilities. Plus you don’t get your fellow fans relieving themselves on the stands because getting to the toilets is just too much like hard work (which it was). Not that you’d want to use them anyway, it wasn’t much fun having your jeans soaking up puddles of stale pee…
I'm not laughing you are spot on Maine Road was the real Manchester City before they were poisoned with Oil Money we already lost Highbury and Upton Park and White Heart Lane we cannot lose the Theater of Dreams
If the Glazers leave and new owners come in who are willing to provide the funding then I can see Old trafford getting a revamp, I get see a new stadium happening though. Similar situation that Liverpool were in with Anfield I reckon.
Only idea I can think off for expanding the Bobby charlton stand is maybe a tunnel for the trains to still operate but it would cause major disruption while in development.
2:07 okay that's just crazy 🔥🔥
Keep the ground, just remove the scoffolding and modernise the place. Hopefully they can build over the railway line and make that stand larger.
What will do for the seats they are too close one could hardly sit not good enough for the kids.
@@ankitrawat4736 its a football ground, not first class on a plane.
@@stretfordender11 It's a stadium.
It's first job is literally seating spectators.
Tear down and build a new, no sense putting bandages on a limb that needs amputating.
Arsenal and Tottenham have a new ground, the Milan clubs are getting one, the Madrid clubs have a new ground.
Attachment to sentiment will impede progress, all those clubs had historic grounds and memories but they and they're fans have no issue with a new path
@@mzakaria10 first job is so people can support the team. Stay at home if you want a comfy seat
I would like old Trafford to be modernised but will people stop saying it 120 years old. It’s not. Take a look at Old Trafford from 1919, 1958, 1992,2005. It don’t look the same. Each stand has been knocked down from the 1919 one to now.
Trigger's broom comes to mind...
Do what Real Madrid did and expand with new levels of stand above the railway. It's not that difficult to turn the railway into a tunnel and build the best and biggest stand of Old Trafford on top of that. Old Trafford's architecture is the most beautiful in England, we must preserve that. we can innovate on the Sir Matt Busby Stand. Build the second smaller stadium on the other side of the parking lot.
It is nice that former Liverpool captain Sir Matt Busby still has a stand named after him ...I eagerly wait for the day when the south stand would be renamed the Steven Gerrard stand after he ends the trophy drought (both european and British) .
At present The Old Trafford Stadium is still incomplete & needs to be completed first before you can sort out the roof.
This Stadium has a lot of potential & can be one of the best Stadium in Europe with an original design cos it has authentic look & character with the potential capacity of at least 90K, all it needs is a complete refurbishment & some TLC.
Talk Note: The Stadium Expansion should Not Exceed the rail way line.
Manchester United's Old Trafford is 'The Super Bowl' of stadiums is known as The Theatre of Dreams is unique & a Colossal of a Stadium.
It's an iconic stadium and instead of spending fortunes building a completely new stadium it would be a much better idea to renovate the current stadium with all that money.
Never build a new stadium, Old Trafford is iconic it can never be demolished it just need to be renovated
Even Barcelona are doing a total rebuilt of the Nou Camp. Man Utd could do the same as Spurs and move out of Old Trafford for a season while doing a build, they could play home games at Wembley, t they would closer to their fan base.
I think a new stadium, somewhere near the current stadium is the cheaper option. But I think fans would rather ground share at City or borrow Goodison Park if Everton moves into a new stadium and tear down and rebuild Old Trafford. Adding in some of the modern conveniences is a must as well as preparing for future technology and building for people with disabilities.
Sad state of affairs unfortunately at the club I love we are being left behind on and off the pitch .
Does it sell out at every home match? If yes then expand over the railway line and fix all the issues ie leaking roof. Every stadium had seats rammed in every stadium has queues for the bogs and a pint at half time. Old Trafford can't be replaced. Just improved
yeah it sells out every game plus they have over 120.000 people on the waiting list for season tickets that's why expansion is not enough . they should build a 125.000 seater.
As a season ticket holder & many of my friends who go regulary we cant see any major issues apart from the south stand needs attension & more food & drink options at the kiosks. as for its falling down ?? give me a break its solid material not plastic like the new stadiums being built. as of over crowding on the concourses this s an issue with a lot of grounds not just ours, as for the 2 leaks in the roof come on not every ground is without its minor repair problems & as for the card machines are reliable they went down once since being installed.
Grlory - Glory Manchester United ❤️
For me the ideal would be to build the second, smaller stadium for the women's, reserve and youth team first. That way, whether Old Trafford is knocked down and rebuilt or just significantly renovated, United can play in the secondary stadium while the work is being done and not have to go to City or anywhere else for 5 years for a ground share.
Womans football is shit brings no money why should they get a new stadium, woman’s football has got to come a long way u dont see derby building a new stadium or smaller team simply because they simply cant afford it and woman’s teams dont bromg any where near what derby brings in that the scale of how low womans football is it’s Sunday league stuff with a shiny badge
@@dannydyer2879 they don’t understand and say you’re “sexist” it’s like investing in 💩
Waste of money on womens football! Not enough women like football
@@dannydyer2879 in epl they get attention if not them for the youth then because people will definitely watch the youth
@@Realcordy honestly investing in women's football isn't actually a bad thing. Sports are supposed to be inclusive after all, and its showing signs of growth
One of my big problems is I’m not in the least bit sentimental - I’ve met loads of sentimental people in my life, many of which are still in the same position today as the were in 20 years ago. Constantly dreaming of how great the past was, is a road to nowhere. In my opinion (and most will disagree) we should build a completely new stadium - one that’s befitting of the club we are. Make it sympathetic to the history of the club, and keep the name.
I’m 60 now, almost 61 - had many great memories at Old Trafford going all the way back to watching my first game as a 10 year old, but we need to move on. Whether us old timers like it or not, the game has changed, but we are not moving with that change - as I said, sentimentality is the road to nowhere, we’ve been on that road for the past 10 years.
It's not sentimental it's sacred ground we are taking about for football I want Old Trafford to become the Eternal Stafium that in 1,000 years people will still come to Old Trafford to watch football In the Theater Of Dreams imagine the kids walking around Old Trafford as their Dad's tell them this stadium was built over 1,100 years ago generation after generation of our people have visited this land this stadium was here long before we came along and will be here long after we are a small part of a rich glorious history millions of people have visited our home if you are a real football fan you can feel it in the stadium the Magic
Agree, to still be the best, we need to accept the changes, plan and move on without forget the history.
Id keep the same ground however id just do the Stadium up making basic things better and improving the capacity, like Liverpool are doing. So we can keep the nostalgia of the stadium and also do the smaller stadium as well on the same site
could u improve the capacity to 120.000. because united could easily sell that many every game, they are locking out far to many supporters a new super stadium is the answer the biggest in the world.
The stadium is fine, just needs doing up. As for Leigh Sports Village, it’s a fantastic facility for the U23s/Women.
None of these are reasons to build a new stadium. Renovate the studium for a fraction of the cost.
Need to build a new one next to and keep the old one for training and other events
Definitely needs a rework, you can barely see the game from the top of The Stretford End!
no, never don't rebuild it. just improve and clean it.
I want a stadium better than Tottenhams
What u think old trafford aint? Spoilt kid you old trafford holds value and history more than any other club its a dream id stay here another hundred years it just needs a revamp from the inside
I want a team better than Tottenham. It's crazy hearing people say lets abandon our history. They can renovate just like RM did no problem, but abandon the Glory behind the stadium is insane. It's easy for Tottenham or City to move on to a new stadium because they don't have history.
@@strangerpeace4444 exactly mate spot on
Tottenham built a better stadium becoz they know they cant keep their fans happy for next 20yrs as they will be trophyless while we wont be happy if our team doesnt win trophy in 2 to 3 yrs
It is a better stadium, old Trafford has the sort of history and emotional value that only a few stadiums have. More to a stadium than looks.
I don’t think they should knock it down because of all the history I just think it need a few upgrades or if they was to build a new one I would say keep the old one and build a new one near it
There's only one part of the ground what a, bit original anyway I used to stand on Stretford end all the nostalga bollox went years ago
Man I love that football Club
They better not before we are back at the top again, once we are there and have been there for 2/3 years…then talk about a new stadium. Just do maintenance for now
No guarantee that you will get back to the top in 3 years, things could get worse. I bet 3 years ago with 3 years worth of signings you wouldn't think the team would be worse but here we are.
@@SuperMagnum83 you need to read my comment again 😂 I never said we would be there in 2/3 years
Why they need to build any other stadium? They got a historic stadium. I would rather prefer to have a proper renovation of Old Trafford. That's it.
Trust me all thes fake supporters wanting a shiny new stadium i dont get it there shit with no atmosphere going on about Tottenhams new stadium its dead go to it no history or trophies
@@dannydyer2879 bruv there have been some Pl player that said spurs have the best atmosphere. Its cuz the bowl shape of their ground and they have the best ground in UK in terms of food, drinks, facilities, seat, toilet, all that stuff.
@@talkaboutfootball5206 and?
As much as i love utd & love old Trafford, it is beginning to live up to its name so my opinion is start again....a new stadium is a must. I appreciate some fans may think that is crazy and keep old Trafford and just renovate but i think the club needs to move forward and build a new stadium....to me renovating would be just papering over the cracks, yes it would take time to adjust playing somewhere new and create new memories and new history....would it still keep its name, who knows?
They need to think about new stadium after they win some silverware. Till then focus on fixing the issues of team. If you became a team which lives in lower side of league table and can't achieve anything then how modernized-facilitated stadium you build, you will stay same like that. Fix what positions are critical and focus to rebuild the team spending on better coaches, players which can bring success in couple of years then sit with architects to build a new stadium.
The problem with just putting on new roof on the stadium is the inside is too old. OT looks good from the out side but the inside is soo old it's embarrassing so we can't copy Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is renewing the inside. They give the stadium a complete bigger shelf. So not only the the roof, but every side as well. So what they do is expanding the space of every part of the stadium for facilities and better ways to come in en out of the stadium.
We need a new team
Yeah and a new Stadium with a proper owner you get both Real still spent money while rebulding their stadium
No this stadium is a iconic stadium
The Legendary Jay Motty!
I'm surprised at Jay Motty bangin on about new stadiums when we already are in 500m debt. Let's expand Bobby Charlton using crane technology over rail track like The Bombanera or Bernabaeu at 200m and sponsor it for 5 years at 25m per year. Spend the rest on the squad and training facilities. Truth is, when all said and done - we need Jim Ratcliffe to remember where he is from and his boyhood team and buy Man United from the Glazers.
It's not for sale he said, so I would like a part ownership
moving to the local area myself (media city|) I hope that united remain at Old Trafford and just modernise the stadium. The biggest issue is the rail line behind the South stand, however with modern engineering there's no reason why they couldn't build around that. There are a few locations they could potentially move to, however I think a stadium modernisation would be the better option, or a complete rebuild on the existing site
they need a 100.000 plus stadium Old Trafford cant be upgraded to any where near that.
@@jimstirling8120 why do they need 100k plus? ,if you built on the existing site (complete rebuild) you could probs get an 85/90k seater. With upgrading south stand that would take capacity to about 80/85k. The problem is glazers would still make money out of united if the ground was empty every week. Gate receipts are only a small part of the income so there is no justification from their point of view of such a massive outlay when it would take them years to recoup, when they can just continue milking the cash cow.
@@lol-pz1ni Because they have over 120.000 people on the waiting list for season tickets . build say a 120.000 seat stadium u can also build into the new stadium hundreds of corporate boxes 45.000 extra paying customers every game 3 x as many corporate boxes plus naming rights to the biggest and best football stadium in the world could easily bring in an extra 100 million plus every year. the stadium would pay for itself plus give extra spending for players. plus it would make it much easier to sign the best talent because who wouldn't want to play in front of crowds that size.
Man Utd's Old Trafford stadium that a bit if TLC won't cure.
All it needs is the Upgrade of the Sir Bobby Charlton's Stand with a 2nd tier to complete the original design & the removal of the 3rd tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson's Stand & replaced by TV Screens for all 4 corners.
We also want a levelled new Roof + modern refurbishment of the rest of the stadium to warrant a 90K capacity in comfort.
SBCS 25K +
SAFS 25K +
SES 20K +
ES 20K = 90K.
The expansion should not exceed the rail track.
Old Trafford known as 'The Theatre of Dreams' unique in style is the Super Bowl of stadiums & is potentially The best Stadium in the country, possibly the world.
Growing up in New Jersey I've been to probably 200 games at Yankees Stadium, a stadium with a history at least on par with Old Trafford. It was hard to swallow when they tore it down but you move on. However, one quality that is missing from the new stadium is the atmosphere. Watching a game at the old stadium on the tv was completely different. The shape of the stadium created a buzz that doesn't exist in the new stadium. I don't think that would be a; problem if they rebuilt Old Trafford simply because of the shape of the playing surfaces requires a stadium that is closed all around. Baseball stadiums can have eclectic shapes that dull the atmosphere.
The other thing you need to avoid is building some sort stadium/meeting place, which is exactly what they did with the new Yankees Stadium. If you want to hangout, go somewhere else. The place should be filled with seats, not lounges and areas to play games. I think that's called either a bar or an arcade. It's supposed to be a stadium and you ought to be there to watch what's going on down on the field.
Although I've never been to Old Trafford I've been a United supporter for over 30 years and I can relate to anyone who hates the idea of tearing the place down. My hope with the old Yankees Stadium was they would preserve a piece of it and turn it into a museum. They didn't do that and it's a real shame. My suggestion for everyone over there in Manchester is if they decide to build a new stadium, which I believe they should do, fight to preserve a good chunk of the old stadium and turn it into a shrine to the club's history. If you do that you'll never miss the old stadium like many of us here miss the old Yankees Stadium.
I was a Yankee fans and feel sad about what happened to the old stadium. What is happened to the old stadium area now?
If you curious why I say I WAS because baseball isn't fav sports here so no TV broadcast for baseball game and I'm too busy to watch a long game like baseball now.
If I was offered a stadium like Tottenham tomorrow I’d accept it wouldn’t just bring football to the stadium if would bring live events concerts NFL and many more within the next ten years it would of made it money back easily
Probably does mean tamper bay buccaneers will be coming over every year which is the glazers NFL team
All the band that does a stadium tour already go to City's stadium. So building a stadium for concerts would be foolish.
The Glazers won’t do up Old Trafford, why?
Because you would need to put your hand in your pocket.
Think we do that every week there a joke all it needs is a new lick of paint
Theatre of Dreams... what a ground.
Share a season ticket at Utd; what a ground.
So much better than the Etihad... although the Etihad is new(er) I love old Trafford
NO! Not atm. Speaking as a Utd fan, our focus at the moment should be to spend our budget on getting the right players into the club through transfers. Upgrading the stadium is unrequired when there are bigger problems on hand I think. Tottenham didn't have the spending power of the other big clubs due to building a new stadium. It can really set you back imo.
so just neglect the stadium forever then? We have more than enough money to refurbish the stadium and still ensure we have a large enough transfer budget. Unlike Fifa where you never have to worry about your stadium, in real life your stadium plays a massive role.
@@jamminright4384 No, not neglect the stadium forever, but I feel as if we have bigger priorities at this current moment in time such as getting back into the top 4 and finding our identity again. I think the time to be improving the stadium should be when the club is in a healthy position again on the pitch. Don't forget Old Trafford is still a great stadium even if it does need a bit of modernising.
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Manchester United isn't Tottenham we can get deals to help build the stadium
A new stadium would be paid for over the next 25 years with the increased revenue that the new stadium generates, it pays for itself. You can still have a high transfer budget to waste on bad signings.
Can barely get a lick of paint for the stadium out of these owners
Old Trafford to New Trafford here we go
Surely they can build over that rail way line or even move it. Then build the Stand which is letting down the rest of the stadium. And make it the 21st Stadium for the North of England. Because something needs doing very quickly you have the money.
Develop the right squad first. If it stays like this, No one will bother seeing a maguire sort of displays at Newer trafford. Infrastructure issues should be bandaged for now instead of uprooting the whole thing. History is the only vibe keeping Manu fam still intact. Respect it !
both can be doen
It doesn't need an entire rebuild. You can do so many clever things around it with the space they have + the current stands can definatly get upgraded. It makes more sense, would cost less money and gives us an option to keep the history going in the same spot.
Facts
Yes build the stadium like the badge the first club in the world to have the stadium as the badge would look sick
Definitely need to, beginning to live up to its name now though.
Do what Real Madrid did revamp and update current stadium. What spurs did. What Chelsea is going to do.
Nostalgia only holds you back . Its important to remember the past but more important to move with the times. It's time to build a new stadium.
without Old Trafford we do not have a team this is not just some random block of steel this is our home the vast vast majority of our history has been in that stadium do you young people have no respect for History
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Do you old people not understand the importance of the future? The stadiums falling apart and needs a complete rebuild. Same fans same badge same history new stadium. We r currently getting left behind.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 It's cramped. The roof has leakages. There are rat infestations. The media facilities and WiFi is not up to date. There is a lack of investment. It has not been modernised since the Glazers took power. I say it needs to be rebuilt.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 The fans make Man Utd . If the ground didn't need as much work I'd be first to say refurb the ground and stay put . But the sad reality is it needs a ridiculous amount of work that would take 100s of millions to get it where it needs to be . Again while it's sad to potentially bid farewell to the home of Manchester United and all the memories it has gave millions of people through the years ... we can't just be nostalgic. We could build a massive stadium worthy of our great club and the envy of the rest of the clubs !!!!
@@NoName-cl1ob that is all you plastic fans care about " what other people think " screw what other people think i really do not care what anyone says Old Trafford is our home and the greatest stadium in the world my god you people are stupid wanting to destroy our home to get a pat on the back from other fans spoiler alert " history and pride >>>>> looks / closed " the whole point about what Makes Old Trafford special is the history you sit anywhere in the stadium and you can feel the Magic knowing that this is the land where some of the greatest footballers to ever play the game played from Billy Meridith to Duncan Edwards to Georgie Best to Roy Keane to Wayne Rooney generation after Generation of our team played in this land please everyone i strongly urge you not to destroy our history
They should focus on building the team first.
I guess utd and Liverpool should never move on from Old Trafford and anfield just look the charm of Arsenal has gone since they demolished Highbury and being a utd supporter i would love club to modify the stadium rather building a new one. At the end this is more than playground for many people.
In my opinion it just needs a major increase/development to keep history with the stadium and to refurbish it and make it bigger without spending too much
It needs knocking down and starting again it’s had its day - there is no way to bring the ground up to standard without spending too much. The ground is so bad UEFA have now delisted it as a category one stadium which means unlike in the past we cannot host champion league finals etc. I love the ground, first went there 50 years ago, but sometimes you have to move on.
@@rufdymond you are not a real football fan
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 - Don’t be daft, I have a different opinion to you, which I’m entitled to. In every single major European league (except maybe Italy where they’re really broke) clubs are building new stadiums, what makes us so different that we shouldn’t do the same? This isn’t a short term thing, what do we do, leave it another 20, 30, 50, years, until the place literally falls down? The ground is now so poor it’s even been delisted as a category 1 UEFA venue, which means we can’t even hold games like the Champions League final - and there would be a reluctance to even host Euro games there too. We once had the best stadium in the country now we’re nowhere close. Holding onto the past never got anyone anything except to go backwards….its about making great memories of the future.
Besides the ground I first went to in 1972 doesn’t even exist now…it’s been completely rebuilt since then…..
@@rufdymond are Liverpool building a new stadium ? Real Madrid ? Barcelona ? Chelsea ? oh wait a second there not because they actually respect the history of their stadiums also yes you are right this will not be a shorterm project the answer is what Real Madrid are doing a 5 Year Plan to build up our stadium instead of destroying it relating to the 1972 comment yes you are correct because we built up our stadium since then but we didn't destroy it also as far as category 1 games go and ? why would you want other teams playing on that Pitch it's our home for Manchester United
@@rufdymond you can literally keep the stadium the way it is, because it's history and build a new one somewhere else without having to knock it down.
Old Trafford is Old...A NEW Trafford is needed