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I'm absolutely addicted to my forte II with mods. I listen for ten or more hours a day. During covid-19. Zero fatigue. I run a vintage marantz 2285b. Bliss.
I was a proud owner of a pair of Heresy II when I was young like you, and really appreciate your approach to reviews, especially in this "Klipsch dilemma" that splits in two, from decades, the audiophile people. Great job, Jay!
I really like how you clearly outlined the sound of Horn/Klipsch speakers and made clear that many horn speakers nowadays sound way different than what most people think, i.e. better. I hope your video is enough to make some people curious about the sound of Klipsch speakers and maybe even gets some people who don't like Horn speakers to give them another shot and just listen to a modern good Klipsch speaker. I myself haven't owned a Klipsch speaker in quite a long time and was thinking about it the other night, so maybe I'll make the call right now :) Thanks for all the informative, as well as, entertaining videos! Keep up the good work!
I have been looking at Speakers for a while now and today I have Mirage Om-7 speakers and have been looking at Klipsch Forte IV for a while. And now i become even more interested in that speakers. Good review.
Omg if I won those forte 4’s I would absolutely cry. I’ve wanted to hear something from the heritage line for quite some time now. Just out of my price range. But I’ve been listening to klipsch for about a decade and I’m 29.
I am in love with the heritage series, especially the Cornwall IVs. They are the aural equivalent of a hot rod: brutish, American, exciting, engaging. You don't feel neutral about them. Me? I'm obsessed.
I own Cornwall IV's and if you would've told me 10 years ago that I would I would've laughed. I've owned Maggies, Vandersteen, Thiel, Spica, Dahlquist, ESS, Spendor and Manu more. Nothing has provided a more enjoyable sound as have the CW's. Your review is one of the best Heritage reviews I have seen. Well done indeed!
Roy Delgado is doing great things at Klipsch. Nice review, although i would have liked to see more of a comparison to the CWIV and the HIV if you've heard a pair. That's 3 different price ranges and size ranges for people to consider in the non-fully-horn loaded heritage lineup
After over 20 years of being into audio, the Forte IV are the first Klipsch speakers that I’ve liked enough to buy. Also wound up liking vintage late 90’s Rotel integrated amp I have. The slightly rolled highs on vintage amps matched well for me. Only thing I noticed with the Forte’s they can be powered with low wattage but become much more dynamic with more power, my old Rotel is 250 watts per channel, AB, might have something to do with their peak power rating being so high at 400 watts. Tried my tube amp and many other solid states including Naim and Chord, liked the vintage AB solid state best.
I loved this review!!! Insightful and entertaining!! Thanks.I'm 66yrs. old and my current 2 channel system is The Heresy 4s and Naim unity Atom with a Definitive Sub. I absolutely love the sound I get in my listening space. And placement with these speakers is EVERYTHING with these also. Thanks keep up the good work!!
I'd like Klipsch a lot. I have a pair of Cornwall III and I love it. Big realism and live performance. But they demands to adjust to your room accurately; so if you will do it, you will enjoy them so much!
Jay you are an absolutely right on the money buddy. I have a set of Klipsch Chorus and I just went to my music room and pointed them maybe a bit more than slightly towards the room and WOW WOW WOW.
Klipsch and horn speakers in general bring a unique level of realism that other designs don't have. And today's Klipsch speakers are much more refined and forgiving than they've been in the past. And with so many low power tube amps on the market now, their high sensitivity is a nice bonus.
All good points. Only a few watts of tube power & you get wonderfully vivid sounding speaker that's plenty loud enough for home listening scenarios. The Forte IV gives the listener a lot of that room filling La Scala sound at a decent price.
Yes, horns and tubes are both wonderful and very realistic. It goes without saying, ya gotta learn what your room sounds like, which takes some practice.
I have a horn rig at home (Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12) and haven't heard klipsch speakers but am expecting a similar sound with the "rough edges" filed out as I have to EQ the Bill Fitzmaurice quite a bit. I have also played with Eminence APT80 tweeters and they do clean and powerful well in a multi way setup. Paper cone tweeters sound like TH-cam in comparison. They are not a background speaker as the highs are crisp. You can soften the highs with a grille or equaliser. I happen to like this sound. I want to hear the finger snaps and bass twang. I find some speakers a bit boring (vintage KEF passive radiator design I had) where it sounds like the tweeters are barely on - or they are buried behind some laundry.
I have two different systems in my home one with Cornwalls the other Heresy's .They sound different one like being in a studio, the other like being in a music venue. I will always be a Klipsch man !!
Great review!!! I just listened to your Cornwall Iv review and then this one again and my choice is definitely the Forte IV! I was going to spend money on something less expensive but I am going to wait and get these!!! Thanks
The lively editing style of this video rivals the dynamic presentation of the Forte IV! I really like your tips on setup and equipment matching. As a horn lover, I wonder how the Volti Razz speaker compares to the Klipsch Heritage line. Hopefully you can hear Volti speakers some day.
I have Cornwall IV and Razz BUT havent done an A/B yet. The Cabinets and parts used to make the Volti are superior in every way. Wont be surprised if the RAZZ are better bang for the buck.
I'm neither a lover nor hater of Klipsch. I have a pair of bookshelf Klipsch, used them for a time with TV setup, now they sit on a shelf. For day to day music listening I prefer my AR tower speakers.
Compliments for a great review ! No complicated adjectives used to describe the experience which no one understand other than the reviewer himself. I own a pair of Forte III and really enjoy them, and I think that these just take the game forward. So many people complain about build quality of Klipsch, with no internal bracing, inadequate internal insulation, cheaper crossover components, and without any separate chambers for mids & lows (like their own reference floorstanders RF 7 III), but the Forte ‘s still sound great. Really great.
They use compression drivers for the mids and tweeter. Why would they need separate chambers for mids and lows (or highs) when the horns are already isolated from the woofer due to the fact they are horn-loaded.
@@frankvee There could be coatings for the horns themselves, extra bracing that does not rattle itself, more expensive parts, thicker cabinets, special wiring, for a slightly better sound, but the price per speaker would easily go up $500.00 per speaker. This is where DIY mods come into play. I would like to see a premium version for each speaker. I don't know if klipsch is willing to do that. It would require lots more manufacturing space and parts inventory.
Jay I must say very generous of you..I never had the pleasure to listen to the IV's. I've heard the II and older. yes definitely that concert sound naturally do to horns being used in live music. They just didn't have the mid-bass I enjoy. Can't wait to hear the IV's. Great Review. Keeping it real..
Great video Jay. I have an old pair of kg2s; after 33 years I still swear by them. I like vinyl - few other speakers can handle vinyl recordings like Klipsch.
I'm poor and only have the 8000f and well... I LOVE THEM and yes direct them straight into the room no or just a little toe. And when you fire up a atmos movie get ready to be blown away.
THANK YOU! Finally, a thorough Klipsch Legacy overview/review. 1) Spend huge money on audiophile grade solid state gear or use them with tubes, at least a tube preamp if you're using a solid state amp. (Paul Klipsch originally designed for small tube preamp and tube amp systems). If you want lively with solid state go to the Tektron moab (approx same money). 2) Clap your hands hard late at night in your listening room, if it's a ringy, echo bitch don't get Klipsch or treat the room. 3) Other than K-Horns, move them away from the wall behind them, 3 to 5 feet. Keep em' away from side walls and/or treat the damn room. 4) Adjust the toe-in to taste, you can toe-in a bit more after they're worn in. 5) The most important, if you listen to crappy recordings don't buy Klipsch. If you think old rock & roll greatest hit CDs are awesome and all of the music you've downloaded from iTunes is top notch (you gullible, deaf nimrod) don't buy Klipsch. The shrillness, brightness and smearing often accompanying such sources will sound hideous through Klipsch product. 5B) If you're using Klipsch with the proper solid state equipment be prepared to be super selective about source material to avoid brightness, or listen at low, background levels because 6) Klipsch Legacy models excel at micro detail and micro dynamics EVEN at low volumes compared to most other brands. Klipsch cabinets are made in the USA, the rest is Chinese
I recently heard a pair being run with a Peachtree amp and Bluesound Node 2i. They were nearly against the wall in a line of speakers and a few feet from each other. I listened to them about a minute of so and told the salesman I was finished listening - they were dull, flat, not engaging at all, no dynamics. This was just after hearing the KLH Model 5’s and Wharfdale Littons, which both sounded much better. After hearing nothing like anyone has described for the Fortes, I would second the notion that placement and equipment matter a whole lot with these.
I love Klipsch speakers, I have 4 sets of all size ... I don't understand haters... too bad .... I don't hate anything that plays music! I love my RP 8000F .... they make a good clean jazz record sound like you are in the room with the artists.. I have a sort of older set of RB 75 ... you may not know them ... early 2000s ... they are remarkable and still sell very well on Ebay! If you ever get to hear them I would enjoy hearing what you think. Very well done young man... as always!
Everyone that listens to my Klipsch Chorus IIs / Academy (all upgraded with Bob Crites crossover's and diaphrams), with RP250S surrounds and RP500SA loves the sound, some even hunted their own down (like my father when he listened to my Quartet setup...he inherited his Chorus IIs).
Love the Klipsch sound. Legendary. The dynamics are more realistic than 95% of speakers. Not the most accurate but they sound like real live music more than most others.
Would the Forte or Cornwall be a big upgrade, difference and change from the HS8 studio monitor? I love my HS8 for record listening (not just for critical, neutral, flat, studio, music production work). But dreaming to get Klipsch maybe one day.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts (especially with regard to integrity at low volume playback). In my area exposing (easily appraisable) new bought things on sidewalk would be way too dangerous as I already made my experience with burglary within few days afterwards. I usually use black stretch film to hide the contents of whatever I bring in or out. The way to go is talking to delivery guys and apply that black film instantly prior to unloading. In your neighbourhood might be unnecessary, lucky You! BTW Steve Guttenberg just acquired a taste for driving the Cornwalls with high end Class D (e/g Mola Mola). As usual, there are more paramenters or "adjusting screws" to consider and even more of trial-and-error experiments to bear, like it or not.
hello, thanks for your videos, I see that you have the Klipsch CORNWALL IV and the forte 4. Could you tell me if the Klipsch CORNWALL IV would work well in a room of 28 meters 4x7 or would you advise me better the forte 4?
28sqm is a small room for the Cornwalls; you might have problems of standing waves around 125hz and, believe me, that can be a real nightmare. My room measures 3.5mx8m; exactly 28sqm just like yours and the Forte IVs sound fantastic but I needed to acoustically treat the room.
@@davidsagarra9841 Thank you very much for your advice. One more thing please, have you heard the Cornwalls and the forte 4 in a well-treated room, for example, in a store, could you tell me the difference between these two speakers, apart from more output power in the Cornwalls, any difference that can justify spending more money and buying Cornwalls instead of forte 4?
Understand I’ve been Rocking k horns up front and Belle’s Klipsch speakers 🔊 on B-channel in back. Together they are live entertainment. For over thirty years I’ve been Rocking ! You can completely rebuild a Klipsch speaker in about 1/2 an hour. Quality is superb. It’s like having a old friend taking a walk with you.❤
Try toe in with speakers crossing in front of listening position. Depending on room, up to a few feet. Reduces brightness and can yield a very holographic presentation
My 2 forte 1’s are now on each side of my 65” plasma with the horns dead center ..ultimate home theater although in the past added my forte 2 as a center channel…
I don't think they suck, I think lots of audio enthusiasts confuse the better higher end models. With the generic budget colorful klipsch speakers out there. Klipsch made some really good speakers. I had the lascalas on a jadis orchestra tube amp about 15 years ago. I don't miss them, but I do not remember them being build to be refined. Had fun with them.. I always used felt, to line the horns with it would temper them a little (little less amplitude from the source) worth a shot for whomever it concerns
Great review Jay. Looking for a speaker about 38 inches tall. You also review the Totem Tribe. What are the differences and which would you recommend. Thanks.
i just want to say this Jay, thank god you have this channel. The other where we had the three M, was just not in your league. Love your videos. Keep it up.
100% correct about poor recordings! So many of my CD's went into the trash. Mostly 80's rock, a lot of which was compressed and unlistenable. Excellent and thoughtful review BTW. You have yourself a new subscriber
Sadly many pop music CDs are very compressed and utilize many effects. You can hear those issues more clearly on many high quality speakers. Still, if I like the tunes, I listen to them anyway and enjoy the ignore the defects. That's better than listening to crappy speakers that take the soul out of every recording.
I own a pair of these, and I would say the sweet spot is quite large when you point the speakers straight out into the room. It gets smaller the more you toe in towards the listening position.
You really need the space to use the big Klipsch speakers. Ideally two solid corner walls too. Cannot be use like a nearfield monitor. Move 15 to 20 feet away and keep them 8-15 feet apart and you get real depth and dimension.
I wonder which of the Klipsch Heritage series speakers will work best in my dedicated 22-square-meter room. My heart goes out to La Scala because I think that although they are much larger speakers they do not have as much bass below 50 hz and would give me less problems at a listening volume of 85 dB at two meters away from the listening point.
Cool glad they've improved over the years. I always wanted a pair as a kid. Then about 10 years ago got some . Soon after found out I would simply turn it off after a couple hours from fatigue.
They may have improved, but the data on Audio Science Review suggests they have yet to make a competent speaker. They are all ragged peaky messes when it comes to frequency response.
@@stevenswall Nonsense. The Forte IV is one of the best engineered loudspeakers. Look up the first version in Stereo Review, a magazine that actually measured speakers for adhering to sound engineering principles. In dynamics, distortion, in-room bass response, etc, nothing given a similar cabinet size beats it. Proof is in the pudding. I got my IVs after upgrading my IIs. That's how live music sounds
@@quantumdecoherence1289 My Genelec 8260 has better controlled dispersion, flatter frequency response, modern non-lossy crossovers with less distortion, less diffraction, and go to 113dB and extend to 18hz in room with room correction to flatten out the bass. Sure, the Heresy goes to 116 continuous... Which isn't dynamics. The Heresy IV cannot provide excellent in room bass because even if it compensated for bass issues, placement and listening position will be different so it won't be as ideal as it could be. I'd be open to a blind test though. Not sure if they have show rooms in Utah.
@@quantumdecoherence1289 Price wise, a Kali IN-5 and woofer would compete with one of these. Or a Devialet Phantom which might be more dynamic, since it analyzes the incoming audio and matches the output.
I was sitting back reflecting and listening to Conwall II's and a MP 301 tube amp thinking that in 1960 a person could have Cornwalls and a tube amp. Sixty years later we are still listening to almost the same equipment. Think about it.
Prolly not first to point this out, but big difference between the Heritage line and the mass market stuff. I want a big, dynamic speaker.....have become convinced only way to get anywhere close to live sound. But torn between these and offerings from Tekton. Hey Jay......dig the new 'do. Looks good on ya man.
Hey Jay, very nice intro and presentation, thanks! Could you please answer a few questions and advice for me if possible? I now have a pair of Legacy Audio Focus SE floorstanding speakers and running two Mac Monoblock amps 1.25k. However here is my (possibly) next move. I may be able to get my hands on a Gryphon Mephisto Class A amplifier @ 175 W per channel. You may be wondering why I am looking a Klipsch and not a pair of Wilsons or Focals etc. I am ready for a speaker change more than anything and I know you are familiar with the Legacy Audios from the past and what they can do so in your opinion will I have some fun with these Forte IVs or the Cornwall IVs at least for the time being? I am hopeful within a year or two to step up again so this may be temporary but seeing I love hard rock and jazz and electronic I enjoy a more bottom end performance but as you said will the Klipsch be a problem if they "screech" brightness? Is a class A amp well suited? I am also running a Mac MC1100 preamp and a pair of REL 212/SX subs. My listening room is decent so what do you think? Appreciate it dude!
I have profound hearing loss in one ear with severe tinnitus. I woke up one morning about 7 years ago and my good ear was ringing as well. A virus caused my other ear to have tinnitus and high end loss. If it weren’t for Klipsch I’d be really struggling to even care to listen to music anymore. Having the range and option of a good horn tweeter isn’t a bad thing. I just hope I hold on to the hearing I have left. I only wish I could afford the Cornwall.
That sucks dude, I hope your hearing perseveres and you can continue to enjoy music long term; it's one of the little things we can all enjoy throughout life.
Klipsch recommends having them toed in with the tweeters crossing in front of you, i have the Cornwalls and they sound the best when toed in like this.
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So the winner gets a single speaker? Cool I guess. lol.
@@Roof_Pizza I will make sure you get a single speaker if you win :)
I have a feeling you would enjoy the Exposure 2510 amplifier with these speakers
@@Jayiyagi Hi, just 1 quick question, will you ever be reviewing the Willsenton R800i?
@@warfam_clan6933 yes
Jay I’m 64 year old guy great to a young guys perspective. Stay true to your self despite what the naysayers are saying
One of the best Klipsch reviews I've seen. Well Done dude.
I'm absolutely addicted to my forte II with mods. I listen for ten or more hours a day. During covid-19. Zero fatigue. I run a vintage marantz 2285b. Bliss.
I was a proud owner of a pair of Heresy II when I was young like you, and really appreciate your approach to reviews, especially in this "Klipsch dilemma" that splits in two, from decades, the audiophile people. Great job, Jay!
I really like how you clearly outlined the sound of Horn/Klipsch speakers and made clear that many horn speakers nowadays sound way different than what most people think, i.e. better.
I hope your video is enough to make some people curious about the sound of Klipsch speakers and maybe even gets some people who don't like Horn speakers to give them another shot and just listen to a modern good Klipsch speaker.
I myself haven't owned a Klipsch speaker in quite a long time and was thinking about it the other night, so maybe I'll make the call right now :)
Thanks for all the informative, as well as, entertaining videos! Keep up the good work!
I'm here for the win Jay! From one of your fellow lake bros. Minnesota thru to Ontario... Reppin' the invincible Great Lake Empire !!
I have been looking at Speakers for a while now and today I have Mirage Om-7 speakers and have been looking at Klipsch Forte IV for a while. And now i become even more interested in that speakers.
Good review.
Omg if I won those forte 4’s I would absolutely cry. I’ve wanted to hear something from the heritage line for quite some time now. Just out of my price range. But I’ve been listening to klipsch for about a decade and I’m 29.
I am in love with the heritage series, especially the Cornwall IVs. They are the aural equivalent of a hot rod: brutish, American, exciting, engaging. You don't feel neutral about them. Me? I'm obsessed.
How do they compare directly with the forte iv?
@@Artcore103 Paducah Home Theater has a video with the comparison of the Forte IV and the Cornwall IV.
I own Cornwall IV's and if you would've told me 10 years ago that I would I would've laughed. I've owned Maggies, Vandersteen, Thiel, Spica, Dahlquist, ESS, Spendor and Manu more. Nothing has provided a more enjoyable sound as have the CW's. Your review is one of the best Heritage reviews I have seen. Well done indeed!
Haha. You and Steve Guttenberg. 😁😎
Wow. That’s saying a lot!
Very cool! That list contains radically different designs that engage the room very differently. Enjoy!!!
Roy Delgado is doing great things at Klipsch. Nice review, although i would have liked to see more of a comparison to the CWIV and the HIV if you've heard a pair. That's 3 different price ranges and size ranges for people to consider in the non-fully-horn loaded heritage lineup
Nice to see a bigger set of speakers on your channel. Well done.
Klipsck LaScala is one of the best speakers ever made, hands down. They are also so beautiful!!
I had one on a jadis orchestra tube very nice. About 16 years ago now .
Jay great review. What a great gesture to give these away! Keep up the good work!
After over 20 years of being into audio, the Forte IV are the first Klipsch speakers that I’ve liked enough to buy. Also wound up liking vintage late 90’s Rotel integrated amp I have. The slightly rolled highs on vintage amps matched well for me. Only thing I noticed with the Forte’s they can be powered with low wattage but become much more dynamic with more power, my old Rotel is 250 watts per channel, AB, might have something to do with their peak power rating being so high at 400 watts. Tried my tube amp and many other solid states including Naim and Chord, liked the vintage AB solid state best.
The big Klipsch Heritage speakers and McIntosh are a match made in heaven
Hello Jay, could you revisit your Forte IV AFTER having them for a year??? Do you still have them? Please expand on your experience please!
Really thoughtful and informative
video. Way beyond most all "Reviewers." Won't be long before the rest are going this deep.
Congratulations Sir.
I loved this review!!! Insightful and entertaining!! Thanks.I'm 66yrs. old and my current 2 channel system is The Heresy 4s and Naim unity Atom with a Definitive Sub. I absolutely love the sound I get in my listening space. And placement with these speakers is EVERYTHING with these also. Thanks keep up the good work!!
I'd like Klipsch a lot. I have a pair of Cornwall III and I love it. Big realism and live performance. But they demands to adjust to your room accurately; so if you will do it, you will enjoy them so much!
I'm a Klipsch fan thanks for sharing your experience and opinions
Jay you are an absolutely right on the money buddy. I have a set of Klipsch Chorus and I just went to my music room and pointed them maybe a bit more than slightly towards the room and WOW WOW WOW.
Klipsch Chorus ftw!
Klipsch and horn speakers in general bring a unique level of realism that other designs don't have. And today's Klipsch speakers are much more refined and forgiving than they've been in the past. And with so many low power tube amps on the market now, their high sensitivity is a nice bonus.
All good points. Only a few watts of tube power & you get wonderfully vivid sounding speaker that's plenty loud enough for home listening scenarios. The Forte IV gives the listener a lot of that room filling La Scala sound at a decent price.
Most Klipsch speakers are Big Box store/budget. Not exactly the customers of finicky tube amps.
Yes, horns and tubes are both wonderful and very realistic. It goes without saying, ya gotta learn what your room sounds like, which takes some practice.
@@Roof_Pizza most big box stores aren't klipsch heritage dealers. It's a separate line
I have a horn rig at home (Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12) and haven't heard klipsch speakers but am expecting a similar sound with the "rough edges" filed out as I have to EQ the Bill Fitzmaurice quite a bit. I have also played with Eminence APT80 tweeters and they do clean and powerful well in a multi way setup. Paper cone tweeters sound like TH-cam in comparison. They are not a background speaker as the highs are crisp. You can soften the highs with a grille or equaliser. I happen to like this sound. I want to hear the finger snaps and bass twang. I find some speakers a bit boring (vintage KEF passive radiator design I had) where it sounds like the tweeters are barely on - or they are buried behind some laundry.
I have two different systems in my home one with Cornwalls the other Heresy's .They sound different one like being in a studio, the other like being in a music venue. I will always be a Klipsch man !!
Again, solid work! Good relevant content, conveyed via ever increasing production quality.
Digging this, keep it up.
Love your reviews!!!! I am so close to pulling trigger on Forte IV
Best most entertaining review you have done !!! Great job and spot on with the Forte 4s !
You are getting pretty good at this reviewing, I'm enjoying them more and more :-)
Great review!!! I just listened to your Cornwall Iv review and then this one again and my choice is definitely the Forte IV! I was going to spend money on something less expensive but I am going to wait and get these!!! Thanks
forte 2 are much better
The lively editing style of this video rivals the dynamic presentation of the Forte IV! I really like your tips on setup and equipment matching. As a horn lover, I wonder how the Volti Razz speaker compares to the Klipsch Heritage line. Hopefully you can hear Volti speakers some day.
I have Cornwall IV and Razz BUT havent done an A/B yet. The Cabinets and parts used to make the Volti are superior in every way. Wont be surprised if the RAZZ are better bang for the buck.
I'm neither a lover nor hater of Klipsch. I have a pair of bookshelf Klipsch, used them for a time with TV setup, now they sit on a shelf. For day to day music listening I prefer my AR tower speakers.
I own a Klipsch KG 5.2 and RF7 III and seriously considering purchasing a pair of these to add to the collection! Very informative review.
That is a very good description and comparison. This really helps with a purchasing decision.
Compliments for a great review ! No complicated adjectives used to describe the experience which no one understand other than the reviewer himself.
I own a pair of Forte III and really enjoy them, and I think that these just take the game forward.
So many people complain about build quality of Klipsch, with no internal bracing, inadequate internal insulation, cheaper crossover components, and without any separate chambers for mids & lows (like their own reference floorstanders RF 7 III), but the Forte ‘s still sound great. Really great.
They use compression drivers for the mids and tweeter. Why would they need separate chambers for mids and lows (or highs) when the horns are already isolated from the woofer due to the fact they are horn-loaded.
@@frankvee There could be coatings for the horns themselves, extra bracing that does not rattle itself, more expensive parts, thicker cabinets, special wiring, for a slightly better sound, but the price per speaker would easily go up $500.00 per speaker. This is where DIY mods come into play.
I would like to see a premium version for each speaker. I don't know if klipsch is willing to do that. It would require lots more manufacturing space and parts inventory.
Now you just need to convince Pass Labs to let you review the XA25 with these :p
The XA-25 does sound great with the Klipsch Fortes. No doubt. I found though that tubes (namely Line Magnetic LM-508ia) are quite a match!
Surely Steve Gutenberg did that
@@matticeverhoeven6539 He did indeed with his Cornwall IVs but still would love to see Jay's thoughts.
Love the Forte IV!!! Old school look with modern sound.
I would love to be cool and dis them, but I really do like Klipsch. I just can't afford the higher end ones. Lol
I have a pair of Heresy iii’s and Forte iii’s. Love both.
Great vid review. I’ve been considering Klipsch for a while, might have to jump in....
Jay I must say very generous of you..I never had the pleasure to listen to the IV's. I've heard the II and older. yes definitely that concert sound naturally do to horns being used in live music. They just didn't have the mid-bass I enjoy. Can't wait to hear the IV's. Great Review. Keeping it real..
Don't worry about what others think. If your gear makes you smile that's all that counts
Great video Jay. I have an old pair of kg2s; after 33 years I still swear by them. I like vinyl - few other speakers can handle vinyl recordings like Klipsch.
I have a set of heresy 2 from the mid 80's and am in the process of upgrading the tweeters.
This review literally made me laugh out loud. You just got a new fan 👍
I'm poor and only have the 8000f and well... I LOVE THEM and yes direct them straight into the room no or just a little toe. And when you fire up a atmos movie get ready to be blown away.
Nice review! I started out my Klipsch journey with Forte 1s and loved them! I sold them for LaScalas. Even better, but much lower WAF!
THANK YOU! Finally, a thorough Klipsch Legacy overview/review. 1) Spend huge money on audiophile grade solid state gear or use them with tubes, at least a tube preamp if you're using a solid state amp. (Paul Klipsch originally designed for small tube preamp and tube amp systems). If you want lively with solid state go to the Tektron moab (approx same money). 2) Clap your hands hard late at night in your listening room, if it's a ringy, echo bitch don't get Klipsch or treat the room. 3) Other than K-Horns, move them away from the wall behind them, 3 to 5 feet. Keep em' away from side walls and/or treat the damn room. 4) Adjust the toe-in to taste, you can toe-in a bit more after they're worn in. 5) The most important, if you listen to crappy recordings don't buy Klipsch. If you think old rock & roll greatest hit CDs are awesome and all of the music you've downloaded from iTunes is top notch (you gullible, deaf nimrod) don't buy Klipsch. The shrillness, brightness and smearing often accompanying such sources will sound hideous through Klipsch product. 5B) If you're using Klipsch with the proper solid state equipment be prepared to be super selective about source material to avoid brightness, or listen at low, background levels because 6) Klipsch Legacy models excel at micro detail and micro dynamics EVEN at low volumes compared to most other brands. Klipsch cabinets are made in the USA, the rest is Chinese
I recently heard a pair being run with a Peachtree amp and Bluesound Node 2i. They were nearly against the wall in a line of speakers and a few feet from each other. I listened to them about a minute of so and told the salesman I was finished listening - they were dull, flat, not engaging at all, no dynamics. This was just after hearing the KLH Model 5’s and Wharfdale Littons, which both sounded much better. After hearing nothing like anyone has described for the Fortes, I would second the notion that placement and equipment matter a whole lot with these.
I love Klipsch speakers, I have 4 sets of all size ... I don't understand haters... too bad .... I don't hate anything that plays music! I love my RP 8000F .... they make a good clean jazz record sound like you are in the room with the artists.. I have a sort of older set of RB 75 ... you may not know them ... early 2000s ... they are remarkable and still sell very well on Ebay! If you ever get to hear them I would enjoy hearing what you think. Very well done young man... as always!
What you say about the Forte is the same for the Chorus too. It too has a rear passive radiator so can’t be too close to the rear wall.
Still love my Klipsch Quartets, same set up.3 way with passive radiator.
In your opinion, which speaker images best at low volumes, these Forte IV’s or the Cornwall IV’s?
Very good job of the description of the forte five. Good information!
The tweeter waveguide did not change from the Forte 3, it was the tweeter phase plug that was revised.
Everyone that listens to my Klipsch Chorus IIs / Academy (all upgraded with Bob Crites crossover's and diaphrams), with RP250S surrounds and RP500SA loves the sound, some even hunted their own down (like my father when he listened to my Quartet setup...he inherited his Chorus IIs).
Quality and price choice, one of the best in her price range ,not expecting she can beat the B&W 802 or same or higher level speakers
Love the Klipsch sound. Legendary. The dynamics are more realistic than 95% of speakers. Not the most accurate but they sound like real live music more than most others.
Would the Forte or Cornwall be a big upgrade, difference and change from the HS8 studio monitor?
I love my HS8 for record listening (not just for critical, neutral, flat, studio, music production work). But dreaming to get Klipsch maybe one day.
This has to be the best review of this speaker... ever. Well done!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts (especially with regard to integrity at low volume playback).
In my area exposing (easily appraisable) new bought things on sidewalk would be way too dangerous as I already made my experience with burglary within few days afterwards. I usually use black stretch film to hide the contents of whatever I bring in or out. The way to go is talking to delivery guys and apply that black film instantly prior to unloading. In your neighbourhood might be unnecessary, lucky You!
BTW Steve Guttenberg just acquired a taste for driving the Cornwalls with high end Class D (e/g Mola Mola). As usual, there are more paramenters or "adjusting screws" to consider and even more of trial-and-error experiments to bear, like it or not.
Holy crap 🤣, “she will beat the shit out of me”
I have my Klipsch Forte 1 which I bought in 1989...my fortes' still rock the house for 32 years !!!
forte 2 are better
hello, thanks for your videos, I see that you have the Klipsch CORNWALL IV and the forte 4. Could you tell me if the Klipsch CORNWALL IV would work well in a room of 28 meters 4x7 or would you advise me better the forte 4?
28sqm is a small room for the Cornwalls; you might have problems of standing waves around 125hz and, believe me, that can be a real nightmare. My room measures 3.5mx8m; exactly 28sqm just like yours and the Forte IVs sound fantastic but I needed to acoustically treat the room.
@@davidsagarra9841 Thank you very much for your advice. One more thing please, have you heard the Cornwalls and the forte 4 in a well-treated room, for example, in a store, could you tell me the difference between these two speakers, apart from more output power in the Cornwalls, any difference that can justify spending more money and buying Cornwalls instead of forte 4?
When are we getting the KLH Model 5 review. Looking forward to your take on them :)
I'm happy with 70TH Anniversary Heresy III and set amp 2a3.
Greetings from Croatia.
Understand I’ve been Rocking k horns up front and Belle’s Klipsch speakers 🔊 on B-channel in back. Together they are live entertainment. For over thirty years I’ve been Rocking ! You can completely rebuild a Klipsch speaker in about 1/2 an hour. Quality is superb. It’s like having a old friend taking a walk with you.❤
Really great video. I love when you are throwing away your CDs and listening at night on the floor. I can relate in my apartment. Hehe.
Looking like horns needs substantial rooms. Heard Cornwall in a very large open design house it sounded really good, great sounding system.
La Scala...La Scala....La Scala,.....up next perhaps? 🤔
Try toe in with speakers crossing in front of listening position. Depending on room, up to a few feet. Reduces brightness and can yield a very holographic presentation
Glad you mentioned recording quality!!!
How is it comparing to the Double Impact from Tekton ?
I have a Klipsch RM 600 M, and love it!
My 2 forte 1’s are now on each side of my 65” plasma with the horns dead center ..ultimate home theater although in the past added my forte 2 as a center channel…
A great blue-collar review, thank you my friend.
Are you able to measure the “in room” bass frequency response?
How would these differ from a pair of Tannoy speakers?🔊
Like the focus on the placement...seems to be a theme. Thanks.
I don't think they suck, I think lots of audio enthusiasts confuse the better higher end models. With the generic budget colorful klipsch speakers out there.
Klipsch made some really good speakers. I had the lascalas on a jadis orchestra tube amp about 15 years ago. I don't miss them, but I do not remember them being build to be refined. Had fun with them..
I always used felt, to line the horns with it would temper them a little (little less amplitude from the source) worth a shot for whomever it concerns
Have you considered the pure audio project double 15 trio ?
Really enjoyed this review, Jay!
Outstanding review!
Excellent review.
I have a set of 1981 Heresys that have been upgraded.
And a R S L speed woofer.
However I am envious of the Klispch fortes 4.
Great review Jay.
Looking for a speaker about 38 inches tall. You also review the Totem Tribe. What are the differences and which would you recommend. Thanks.
i just want to say this Jay, thank god you have this channel. The other where we had the three M, was just not in your league. Love your videos. Keep it up.
:: ive had a pair of kg 1.5 and those look and sound great! That was the mid 90s, I can only imagine how the forté IVs sound.
Nice review! I will be auditioning these ASAP!
100% correct about poor recordings! So many of my CD's went into the trash. Mostly 80's rock, a lot of which was compressed and unlistenable. Excellent and thoughtful review BTW. You have yourself a new subscriber
Poor recordings sound bad on every thing but if I like the tunes I listen anyway. Enjoy the Forte IVs!
Sadly many pop music CDs are very compressed and utilize many effects. You can hear those issues more clearly on many high quality speakers. Still, if I like the tunes, I listen to them anyway and enjoy the ignore the defects. That's better than listening to crappy speakers that take the soul out of every recording.
Cornwall’s and LaScala’s are my fav. I love my Klipsch speakers.
18:01 😆 This review is good and hilarious all at once. Really digging it.
What about their sweetspot? Is it small as many say about horn speakers?
I own a pair of these, and I would say the sweet spot is quite large when you point the speakers straight out into the room. It gets smaller the more you toe in towards the listening position.
You really need the space to use the big Klipsch speakers. Ideally two solid corner walls too. Cannot be use like a nearfield monitor. Move 15 to 20 feet away and keep them 8-15 feet apart and you get real depth and dimension.
sensitivity and characteristics make those klipsch speakers ideal to pair with tube amps.
I wonder which of the Klipsch Heritage series speakers will work best in my dedicated 22-square-meter room. My heart goes out to La Scala because I think that although they are much larger speakers they do not have as much bass below 50 hz and would give me less problems at a listening volume of 85 dB at two meters away from the listening point.
Cool glad they've improved over the years. I always wanted a pair as a kid. Then about 10 years ago got some . Soon after found out I would simply turn it off after a couple hours from fatigue.
They may have improved, but the data on Audio Science Review suggests they have yet to make a competent speaker. They are all ragged peaky messes when it comes to frequency response.
@@stevenswall Nonsense. The Forte IV is one of the best engineered loudspeakers. Look up the first version in Stereo Review, a magazine that actually measured speakers for adhering to sound engineering principles. In dynamics, distortion, in-room bass response, etc, nothing given a similar cabinet size beats it. Proof is in the pudding. I got my IVs after upgrading my IIs. That's how live music sounds
@@quantumdecoherence1289 My Genelec 8260 has better controlled dispersion, flatter frequency response, modern non-lossy crossovers with less distortion, less diffraction, and go to 113dB and extend to 18hz in room with room correction to flatten out the bass. Sure, the Heresy goes to 116 continuous... Which isn't dynamics. The Heresy IV cannot provide excellent in room bass because even if it compensated for bass issues, placement and listening position will be different so it won't be as ideal as it could be.
I'd be open to a blind test though. Not sure if they have show rooms in Utah.
@@quantumdecoherence1289 Price wise, a Kali IN-5 and woofer would compete with one of these. Or a Devialet Phantom which might be more dynamic, since it analyzes the incoming audio and matches the output.
I was sitting back reflecting and listening to Conwall II's and a MP 301 tube amp thinking that in 1960 a person could have Cornwalls and a tube amp. Sixty years later we are still listening to almost the same equipment. Think about it.
Prolly not first to point this out, but big difference between the Heritage line and the mass market stuff. I want a big, dynamic speaker.....have become convinced only way to get anywhere close to live sound. But torn between these and offerings from Tekton. Hey Jay......dig the new 'do. Looks good on ya man.
Hey Jay, very nice intro and presentation, thanks! Could you please answer a few questions and advice for me if possible? I now have a pair of Legacy Audio Focus SE floorstanding speakers and running two Mac Monoblock amps 1.25k. However here is my (possibly) next move. I may be able to get my hands on a Gryphon Mephisto Class A amplifier @ 175 W per channel. You may be wondering why I am looking a Klipsch and not a pair of Wilsons or Focals etc. I am ready for a speaker change more than anything and I know you are familiar with the Legacy Audios from the past and what they can do so in your opinion will I have some fun with these Forte IVs or the Cornwall IVs at least for the time being? I am hopeful within a year or two to step up again so this may be temporary but seeing I love hard rock and jazz and electronic I enjoy a more bottom end performance but as you said will the Klipsch be a problem if they "screech" brightness? Is a class A amp well suited? I am also running a Mac MC1100 preamp and a pair of REL 212/SX subs. My listening room is decent so what do you think? Appreciate it dude!
I have profound hearing loss in one ear with severe tinnitus. I woke up one morning about 7 years ago and my good ear was ringing as well. A virus caused my other ear to have tinnitus and high end loss. If it weren’t for Klipsch I’d be really struggling to even care to listen to music anymore. Having the range and option of a good horn tweeter isn’t a bad thing. I just hope I hold on to the hearing I have left. I only wish I could afford the Cornwall.
That sucks dude, I hope your hearing perseveres and you can continue to enjoy music long term; it's one of the little things we can all enjoy throughout life.
@@coldcraze Thank you. I appreciate your human kindness. We need more. Thx again.
Klipsch recommends having them toed in with the tweeters crossing in front of you, i have the Cornwalls and they sound the best when toed in like this.