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qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all. What does Xiaomi really offer ? For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops. So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB. At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the TH-cam channels are ignoring the brand
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case. One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone Samsung just can't complete with these brands
There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate. Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets) (Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
I only care about speed. Once you get used to a 120W wired charger, there's no going back. 15W would seem equivalent to not charging at all. So unless I get 80W+ wireless, I am sticking to my 120W wired charger.
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
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Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process. Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem. So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe? And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere. And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top. As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit. At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient. And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers). 1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery). 2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging? 3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters. --> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
the time wireless charging matters is only if your port gets wet, or if the connector is wrong. if your phone has usb-c then qi allows you to still charge. 'it is 25 watt' i use 65 watt wireless charging and have for 2 years. if qi2 has less than half of the charging speed that is pretty big. another problem is that there are new phones who don't necessarily ship with wireless charging. i bought a phone for my mom thinking it had it, but it doesn't. not sure if a case for it would help mount it in a car.
Long term battery life and safety are some percentage of the answer. There’s a lot of waste heat in wireless charging, which reduces component life for the battery and the CPU.
@@JasonJrake The heat is only an issue if you let it build up in the device. If you have a charger with a fan built in, the over temperature of the device stays lower, and no more damage is done than with a wired charging. The damage comes from the temperature achieved, not the amount of heat generated. Charging your phone in direct sunlight with a cable will do far more damage than charging wirelessly while it is in front of an air conditioner. That is why any phone will charge slower if it is already hot, and charge much faster if you keep the temperature lower. The power being delivered wirelessly makes no difference, the only thing that matters is the temperature of the battery.
@ this makes sense, good to know. I generally only wireless charge if I get water in the charge port (I have to use my phone for work tasks that drain it quickly), while it dries out.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
One reason why Samsung may also still not support it is because the S Pen has issues with magnets on the back. It basically stops working. And I guess it would be too big of a hassle to fix this for them
I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly. I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe. You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days. But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger. I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying. Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also. My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc. It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
Chinese brands are popular in Asia Pacific and even Europe. They support way higher charging speeds. Qi2 has no use case basically in this market. As the American market doesn't have access to Chinese brands, they are happy with slow 15W charging
@@MegaLokopo Xiaomi is their direct competitor and because of how they`re launched Xiaomi is better than samsung for 6 months of the year and then samsung takes the crown for another 6 months. Really cool cuz you can experience best of the 2 worlds(Xiaomi launches with best cpus earlier than samsung but then samsung comes out with better zoom, screens and battery life). I just bought last years Xiaomi 14(one of a few small flag ships. Not ultra level flagship but very decent snap 8g3 etc.) and I hope she`ll enjoy it. I`ll buy myself galaxy S25 ultra probably when it comes out but I`m not shure though for now at least. Xiaomi UI looks almost like apple so it`s very easy to transition from ios to android here (looks very similiar but supports universal back button which is a total game changer)
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
IF most Android phone manufacturers DON'T want to add Qi2 inside their phones, then yeah, WHY NOT had two small contact pads on th back of the phone back plates, and have cases with the Qi2 coils built in (that then have two associated pins contact the phones two pads)??? Heck Motorola did the contact pad system for their 'Z series' phones that had various different cases - Battery, SLR camera case and more! 🤔😏 😎🇬🇧
Honestly, wireless charging is the most inefficient form of charging. Essentially you are going from AC-DC-"AC-like"-DC before you can even charge your phone. And as someone who lives in an area with high crime rates, an accessory loosely secured to the back of my device via magnets is the last thing I would want.
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though. Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
I think that most people don't really care about fast wireless charging standards because it's really quite useless. It's slower, you basically can't use your phone while charging it, and if yes (with those little pucks that hold onto the back of the phone), there is still a cable coming out of it.
Magsafe is the only feature that I think makes iphones interesting. I just got a magsafe case for my pixel pro xl so I can use some of my partners iphone stands
If it needs to be magnetically aligned I wonder why Apple didn't push magsafe to be standard for their products. It could help them to make charging faster without needing USB-C at all, most of iPhone users are using Air Drop anyway for data.
I am not intereted in wireless charging But the circle magnet form is actually very fancy to make some exclusive add for phone I got a magnet on usb dac so I dont need rubber band to bind them together
Had been using OnePlus series, right now the 12. It has 100W charging and it does it fast. Even the previous ones were 30 to 50W charging. For me to consider the Qi or other universal wireless charging, not proprietary, standard should be at least close to 50W.
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
i used magsafe maybe three times in three years lol forgot i had it until i watched this video. HMD is doing some cool things in the budget space, thank you for mentioning the skyline
Some xiaomi phones even have 90W charging. But it's not as good as it sounds, it's not that much faster than like a 33W charging for some reason. Still, 33W is still much higher than 25W.
I still think wireless charging is a total waste of powerbanks since you lose a lot of energy in the transfer. Also the additional heat and impact on battery life do not make it worth it.
Wireless charging is still slow . 15 watt is not good enough . There is the concern about the heat generated from wireless charging can affect battery life .
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
I was very excited when Qi2 was announced but not for the faster charging speed and instead just for the magsafe compatible magnets because it would've sucked so much to have two different iPhone and Android magnetic charging standards. With Qi2 I can benefit from the good apple magsafe ecosystem without having to use an iPhone.
Waiting on samsung to adopt Qi2. I like minimizing wires where I comfortably can, obvs I still use wired charging on the nightstand. But on the go, really like just having a slim anker wireless charger and phone.
My S23 Ultra at night charged fully on my nightstand with a Qi charger from 12 years ago. Before that Note 4, S7 Edge and S10+ were treated the same by me. What is the reason you use a cable at the nightstand? I have cables only for charging tablets, watches, power banks and if I need a full charge fast on the phone. Correction: My Note 4 had no Qi, used the charger with a Nexus 4 till I upgraded to the Note 4.
@@MaxPower-11 Then still the functionality named Standby on iOS is missing from OneUI. Any apps that would provide that functionality? As I moved to a Mac the Android device wasn’t fit for my use anymore anyway and using an iPad showed me that I like iOS and iPadOS more. For me this problem is solved by a hardware switch. Even my earbuds have magnets which is nice.
@@MaxPower-11 I use it as alarm clock that also displays current weather. It can also be used to show photos. When it is dark the display turns off and only turns on when there is movement nearby in front of the phone. In darkness the display - when it is on - is a dark red to be friendly to the eyes. So I can easily read the time without having to grab the phone, tap the display or do something besides moving in my cosy bed.
This is an awesome analysis. Especially the influence that Apple has over the wireless consortium by dedicating more employees (rare), stay ahead and standardize, then donate it to make other solutions irrelevant is something I did not think about. I thought they did that to expand the accessory and compatibility market so that it would make it better for iPhone users (it might be one reason but I thought it was the ONLY reason).
My thought is that wireless charging is just really dumb and everyone should stop wasting resources on it. You still have a cable running to where your device is charging, you just saved yourself a literal second by not plugging it in at the cost of your phone charging like, half as fast, while still putting more wear on the device due to the tech's inefficiency.
I didn't care about wireless charging at all. However the magnetic aspect i can't live without now. I added a esr ring to my P9P Fold and i refuse to take it off. Even if it shuts off my screen after attaching something
I feel 'wireless' chargers are like a bad joke. Many wireless chargers have wires for power outlets, which defeats the 'wireless' ethos. Only Power Banks with Qi charging should boast wireless charging, until technology develops contactless charging through air.
All my phones have 15 Watt wireless charging capability - they are a Pixel and an xPeria 1, plus a Chinese one, a TCL. I also have a couple of 15 W charging pads. But I don't use wireless charging usually; the phone gets too hot, and the high temperature is kryptonite for the phone battery. In few occasions in some specific places, like into an airport or while riding some friends' new car, I utilised the wireless charging pads available in loco...
I couldn't care less about wireless charging. I connect all my devices via USB-C and they charge quickly. They don't heat up. What is the problem that Qi is supposedly solving?
I have a case with magsafe magnets and a apple leather wallet on my S23 ultra. Not having the magnets in the phone is completely fine with me, but the magnets break the S-pen functionality... If Samsung offered a s25 ultra without the s pen or made it work properly, that would be great. Now I'm just carrying around this pen that costs money in r&d and takes up space in my phone for nothing.
Would the title be better if it was "Where are all the Qi2 phones?" or "Why is no one making Qi2 phones?" or "Why are Qi2 phones still nowhere to be found?" It's probably just me, but for some reason, but "Why are Qi2 phones still nowhere" just feels like an incomplete sentence haha
Unfortunately, car manufacturers have been extremely slow to adopt magnetic attachment in built-in car wireless chargers, even though it’s a perfect use case in a moving vehicle. Anyway, I don’t know of a single car that has it. That said, the car makers don’t actually make those chargers themselves, they source them from contracted automotive components manufacturers and then integrate them into the vehicle and the component makers only recently started making Qi2 kits so hopefully maybe starting in the 2026 model year we’ll begin to see some vehicles with this feature finally included.
I have a iphone 13 mini and what I found is that it doesn't work well with ANY case. So I had to buy a case with that metal ring attached to it making anything related to it on a phone relevant. So if I can add magnets to hold a phone in a car to any phone fairly cheaply than yeah, why bother about implementing it on a phone itslf
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My Pixel 7A is compatible with magsafe.
qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all.
What does Xiaomi really offer ?
For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops.
So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB.
At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the TH-cam channels are ignoring the brand
I don't care about the wireless charging speed. Using the magnets for a dock, car mount or wallet is what people seem to value more.
You can get the Magnetic Case
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Yes
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
Yeah i use it to watch stocks at work @sodapone
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My brother has a card between the case, which basically blocks MagSafe.
That's just so sad.
@@oevers it might block wireless charging but the metal ring on a case still work with magnets.
Andoird gay boys can't stop talking about apple. What losers.
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case.
One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
What an american part (as an american)has to do with it? Finnaly discovered that Huawei doesnt have backdoors,but your expensive iFruit has them? 😂😂😂😂
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
@@trolslovenski American phones have at best 25-33W "fast" charging.
@@israellewis5484 American phones don't exist.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me
It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple
Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone
Samsung just can't complete with these brands
There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate.
Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets)
(Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
I am using a MagSafe case for my Ultra and it doesn't disturb the pen. So there is definitely a possibility to implement that together with a pen.
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
@@Asgar06 Me too, it's never been a problem.
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
I only care about speed. Once you get used to a 120W wired charger, there's no going back. 15W would seem equivalent to not charging at all. So unless I get 80W+ wireless, I am sticking to my 120W wired charger.
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
That is the view of most people I know.
I always forget about reverse wireless, I've gone whole days without earbuds and then remembered on my commute back when it's too late to matter 😂
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
To add on to this, it never really seemed wireless, like Bluetooth or WiFi. You still have to keep your device in one place.
Well, it is a safer alternative in public charging spaces since you don't have to plug in a random wire and risk your phone getting breached
@@Muhsin-ox1vj I think the technical term is juice jacking.
Bro, how can you tell if it's good or bad if you've never tried it before?
*guy in a donut store*
"Jeez, what are they doing with all these silly flavors? Éclairs are so much better! I don't know why they had to go so far inventing all of this crazy stuff, who cares about that? And it's got a hole in the middle, how inefficient!!"
It's just, like, not for you, man.
Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do
really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
@@divitkarekar5803 Oneplus is awesome. I love charging my phone wirelessly faster than most people charge with a cable.
I actually recently tried putting my Nexus 5 on my new Qi2 stand and found it hilarious that it stuck!
@@divitkarekar5803well they're not the ones improving the chips, Qualcomm does it for them
Rule of thumb: Apple never invented anything.
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process.
Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem.
So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
Can you give examples of phones that are available outside china please
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@drajitshekherMost Xiaomi flagships that come out of China have 50w wireless charging though... Mi 14 had 50w and Mi 14 ultra had 80w.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe?
And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere.
And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top.
As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit.
At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient.
And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
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theyre burning through vc monies, it has to go somewhere
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
if there is magnet for alignment why do we need wireless? can be done with just pogo pins? no power loss and even can build for mods accessories.
great thinking!
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
some sort of pins, sure. pogo pins are notoriously unreliable long term.
Like those ipad connector for keyboard
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
What is this, second video of the week?
Daaaaamn, you’re on fire
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers).
1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery).
2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging?
3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters.
--> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
Exactly! I have MagSafe chargers on my deck and in my car. I rarely go out of my way to charge my phone because it’s always being passively charged
the time wireless charging matters is only if your port gets wet, or if the connector is wrong. if your phone has usb-c then qi allows you to still charge.
'it is 25 watt'
i use 65 watt wireless charging and have for 2 years. if qi2 has less than half of the charging speed that is pretty big.
another problem is that there are new phones who don't necessarily ship with wireless charging. i bought a phone for my mom thinking it had it, but it doesn't. not sure if a case for it would help mount it in a car.
The bigger question is why do they insist on having charging be so slow when oneplus has much faster wireless charging?
Long term battery life and safety are some percentage of the answer. There’s a lot of waste heat in wireless charging, which reduces component life for the battery and the CPU.
@@JasonJrake The heat is only an issue if you let it build up in the device. If you have a charger with a fan built in, the over temperature of the device stays lower, and no more damage is done than with a wired charging. The damage comes from the temperature achieved, not the amount of heat generated. Charging your phone in direct sunlight with a cable will do far more damage than charging wirelessly while it is in front of an air conditioner.
That is why any phone will charge slower if it is already hot, and charge much faster if you keep the temperature lower. The power being delivered wirelessly makes no difference, the only thing that matters is the temperature of the battery.
@ this makes sense, good to know. I generally only wireless charge if I get water in the charge port (I have to use my phone for work tasks that drain it quickly), while it dries out.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
The main benefit for me is when the main port isn’t working, either from being worn out or because there’s water in there.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
What phone are you using? Samsung, google, apple? Well, thats all you americans have 💀
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
Proprietary?????
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
…nope that ain’t it
One reason why Samsung may also still not support it is because the S Pen has issues with magnets on the back. It basically stops working. And I guess it would be too big of a hassle to fix this for them
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I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly.
I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe.
You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days.
But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger.
I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying.
Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also.
My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc.
It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
Chinese brands are popular in Asia Pacific and even Europe. They support way higher charging speeds. Qi2 has no use case basically in this market. As the American market doesn't have access to Chinese brands, they are happy with slow 15W charging
You can still buy oneplus phones online in the us although almost no one does.
@@MegaLokopo Xiaomi is their direct competitor and because of how they`re launched Xiaomi is better than samsung for 6 months of the year and then samsung takes the crown for another 6 months. Really cool cuz you can experience best of the 2 worlds(Xiaomi launches with best cpus earlier than samsung but then samsung comes out with better zoom, screens and battery life). I just bought last years Xiaomi 14(one of a few small flag ships. Not ultra level flagship but very decent snap 8g3 etc.) and I hope she`ll enjoy it. I`ll buy myself galaxy S25 ultra probably when it comes out but I`m not shure though for now at least. Xiaomi UI looks almost like apple so it`s very easy to transition from ios to android here (looks very similiar but supports universal back button which is a total game changer)
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
IF most Android phone manufacturers DON'T want to add Qi2 inside their phones, then yeah, WHY NOT had two small contact pads on th back of the phone back plates, and have cases with the Qi2 coils built in (that then have two associated pins contact the phones two pads)??? Heck Motorola did the contact pad system for their 'Z series' phones that had various different cases - Battery, SLR camera case and more! 🤔😏 😎🇬🇧
Honestly, wireless charging is the most inefficient form of charging. Essentially you are going from AC-DC-"AC-like"-DC before you can even charge your phone. And as someone who lives in an area with high crime rates, an accessory loosely secured to the back of my device via magnets is the last thing I would want.
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
iPhones have good Magsafe, but still they can't be able to wireless power share (reverse wireless charging).
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
Yeah, we have the comfort of not having our phone battery being fried up
If "fiddling around with a cable" is anything remotely approaching an issue for you, I'm sorry but you need to have your mental faculties examined
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
@@hellishsavitar7522 That doesn't happen with well made wireless chargers.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
The skyline screen having curves but the phones not is super weird
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
I like the part where he does a insta 360 sponsorship segment but doesnt speed in a school zone
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
@@TechAltar Even charging at
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
I think new pixel phone (at least some of them) have the new ultrasonic fingerprint reader
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though.
Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
I think that most people don't really care about fast wireless charging standards because it's really quite useless. It's slower, you basically can't use your phone while charging it, and if yes (with those little pucks that hold onto the back of the phone), there is still a cable coming out of it.
I rarely use wireless charging,but i relly love using other magsafe gadgets like cardholder and stand❤
Wireless is too inefficient. Every phone charger should just have a trip-free magnet like MacBook chargers.
Magsafe is the only feature that I think makes iphones interesting. I just got a magsafe case for my pixel pro xl so I can use some of my partners iphone stands
If it needs to be magnetically aligned I wonder why Apple didn't push magsafe to be standard for their products.
It could help them to make charging faster without needing USB-C at all, most of iPhone users are using Air Drop anyway for data.
I am not intereted in wireless charging
But the circle magnet form is actually very fancy to make some exclusive add for phone
I got a magnet on usb dac so I dont need rubber band to bind them together
I would like it in my phone but only for mounting it somewhere.
Like near the pc, car, bed.
I don't know if I would use it for charging
i got 60w on my gan... i connect the phone by the time my ocd asks me to pick it up again it charged 50% of the battery
Had been using OnePlus series, right now the 12. It has 100W charging and it does it fast. Even the previous ones were 30 to 50W charging. For me to consider the Qi or other universal wireless charging, not proprietary, standard should be at least close to 50W.
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
i used magsafe maybe three times in three years lol forgot i had it until i watched this video. HMD is doing some cool things in the budget space, thank you for mentioning the skyline
Some xiaomi phones even have 90W charging. But it's not as good as it sounds, it's not that much faster than like a 33W charging for some reason. Still, 33W is still much higher than 25W.
Using magnetic cable is more convenient than using wireless charging
and it is better for your battery too.
I have magnetic charging deck on my desk for when I'm going to sleep. Great to wake up to a fully charged phone without having to plug it in
I still think wireless charging is a total waste of powerbanks since you lose a lot of energy in the transfer. Also the additional heat and impact on battery life do not make it worth it.
Wireless charging is still slow . 15 watt is not good enough . There is the concern about the heat generated from wireless charging can affect battery life .
It looks like Apple did the same thing with Magsafe that Google did for RCS
i really want the magnets
Wait, so is the new Apple Magsafe charger already Qi 2.1?
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
To abort ports. Why need a charging port which can break over time?
@@ThePianist51 Why break your battery faster while your charging port could last the whole life of the phone theoretically and is replaceable?
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
Nobody is forcing it on you, it’s called having options.
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port
my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
I have an Infinix Note 40 Pro. It has Qi2 wireless charge, with the base included in the box. Not a common feature.
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
I was very excited when Qi2 was announced but not for the faster charging speed and instead just for the magsafe compatible magnets because it would've sucked so much to have two different iPhone and Android magnetic charging standards. With Qi2 I can benefit from the good apple magsafe ecosystem without having to use an iPhone.
If you love your hard earned phone and dont want your battery to degrade, dont use wireless charging. Heat and battery are not friends
I seriously wouldn't buy a phone without magsafe, it's so convenient.
Waiting on samsung to adopt Qi2. I like minimizing wires where I comfortably can, obvs I still use wired charging on the nightstand. But on the go, really like just having a slim anker wireless charger and phone.
My S23 Ultra at night charged fully on my nightstand with a Qi charger from 12 years ago. Before that Note 4, S7 Edge and S10+ were treated the same by me.
What is the reason you use a cable at the nightstand? I have cables only for charging tablets, watches, power banks and if I need a full charge fast on the phone.
Correction: My Note 4 had no Qi, used the charger with a Nexus 4 till I upgraded to the Note 4.
Assuming you put a case on your device then you don’t need to wait for Samsung. Just buy a “MagSafe-compatible” case for your device.
@@MaxPower-11 Then still the functionality named Standby on iOS is missing from OneUI. Any apps that would provide that functionality?
As I moved to a Mac the Android device wasn’t fit for my use anymore anyway and using an iPad showed me that I like iOS and iPadOS more. For me this problem is solved by a hardware switch. Even my earbuds have magnets which is nice.
@@Netzwerkdose what does "standby" on iOS do?
@@MaxPower-11 I use it as alarm clock that also displays current weather. It can also be used to show photos.
When it is dark the display turns off and only turns on when there is movement nearby in front of the phone. In darkness the display - when it is on - is a dark red to be friendly to the eyes.
So I can easily read the time without having to grab the phone, tap the display or do something besides moving in my cosy bed.
This is an awesome analysis. Especially the influence that Apple has over the wireless consortium by dedicating more employees (rare), stay ahead and standardize, then donate it to make other solutions irrelevant is something I did not think about. I thought they did that to expand the accessory and compatibility market so that it would make it better for iPhone users (it might be one reason but I thought it was the ONLY reason).
My thought is that wireless charging is just really dumb and everyone should stop wasting resources on it. You still have a cable running to where your device is charging, you just saved yourself a literal second by not plugging it in at the cost of your phone charging like, half as fast, while still putting more wear on the device due to the tech's inefficiency.
I didn't care about wireless charging at all. However the magnetic aspect i can't live without now. I added a esr ring to my P9P Fold and i refuse to take it off. Even if it shuts off my screen after attaching something
Thoughts on the HMD Skyline as a phone?
Its price is trash for its specifications, don't buy it.
I feel 'wireless' chargers are like a bad joke. Many wireless chargers have wires for power outlets, which defeats the 'wireless' ethos. Only Power Banks with Qi charging should boast wireless charging, until technology develops contactless charging through air.
All my phones have 15 Watt wireless charging capability - they are a Pixel and an xPeria 1, plus a Chinese one, a TCL.
I also have a couple of 15 W charging pads.
But I don't use wireless charging usually; the phone gets too hot, and the high temperature is kryptonite for the phone battery.
In few occasions in some specific places, like into an airport or while riding some friends' new car, I utilised the wireless charging pads available in loco...
I couldn't care less about wireless charging. I connect all my devices via USB-C and they charge quickly. They don't heat up. What is the problem that Qi is supposedly solving?
When Apple 'donates' something, you need to be ready to pay them more 🤣
Two uploads back to back just 3 days apart?
Awesome!
Android is already doing 50W/ 80W wireless charging. Apart from the western regions nobody seems to care about magnetic wallets anyway.
this was very insightful. I've been wondering about the absence of magnetic wireless charging in android for a while now.
41C not alarming?
The panorama shots you made are excellent. Highly recommend that place you took them at to get an amazing view of Berlin.
I have a case with magsafe magnets and a apple leather wallet on my S23 ultra. Not having the magnets in the phone is completely fine with me, but the magnets break the S-pen functionality... If Samsung offered a s25 ultra without the s pen or made it work properly, that would be great. Now I'm just carrying around this pen that costs money in r&d and takes up space in my phone for nothing.
Consider battery life preservation algorithms might be interfering with the maximum charging speeds. Was the battery optimization setting off?
Would the title be better if it was "Where are all the Qi2 phones?" or "Why is no one making Qi2 phones?" or "Why are Qi2 phones still nowhere to be found?"
It's probably just me, but for some reason, but "Why are Qi2 phones still nowhere" just feels like an incomplete sentence haha
I'll try that, thanks!
I have a magsafe case on my pixel 8 pro. But never use it for charging. I use it for the accessories, wallet, car, tripod attachments.
hi from Hellersdorf 😂
thanks for the content
Still dont really understand the point of wireless charging when you could just plug the cable in and get better efficiency already
I have an infinix phone with magsafe wireless charging. It charges with 20w wireless
106 is not bad considering fast charging my iPhone 15 pro max will reach 111°f in a 80° room. (Used imazing to see the temps)
What standard is on cars? I think that's where magnets would benefit the most to avoid sliding.
Unfortunately, car manufacturers have been extremely slow to adopt magnetic attachment in built-in car wireless chargers, even though it’s a perfect use case in a moving vehicle. Anyway, I don’t know of a single car that has it. That said, the car makers don’t actually make those chargers themselves, they source them from contracted automotive components manufacturers and then integrate them into the vehicle and the component makers only recently started making Qi2 kits so hopefully maybe starting in the 2026 model year we’ll begin to see some vehicles with this feature finally included.
@MaxPower-11 wow, thanks mate that's insightful.
I dont need wireless charging, but the magnets are cool and i need it daily on my s23u
I find it funny since the iPhone 12 support Qi 2 and that’s over 4 years old
I have a iphone 13 mini and what I found is that it doesn't work well with ANY case. So I had to buy a case with that metal ring attached to it making anything related to it on a phone relevant. So if I can add magnets to hold a phone in a car to any phone fairly cheaply than yeah, why bother about implementing it on a phone itslf
Right, and that’s why there are a ton of MagSafe cases available for Android phones too.