I loved the video and the presentation of Christopher Riopelle I am loving this channel, I am absorbing a lot of content about art, so continue with this wonderful work, a hug to all involved of The National Gallery. Big hugs from Recife, Brazil.
I'll never forget the amazing lecture Christopher Riopelle delivered at the Sainsbury Wing Theatre in October 2014 and which also dealt with this stunning painting by Bellows, which at that time, was the latest acquisition by the National Gallery. This talk is equally brilliant, thank you so very much Dr Riopelle and the National Gallery !
I thoroughly enjoyed that video! Mr. Riopelle was a terrific presenter and I commend him for this most interesting lecture. The picture itself is, it seems to me, of outstanding quality, and details pointed to by Mr. Riopelle, of the Brooklyn and Manhattan waterfront, of the buildings, the shipping line and the historical context made for a truly excellent story.
This was an excellent presentation and I'm glad he didn't shy away from the controversy. It's a pity an American institution didn't step up and purchase it, so it could stay in the US.
It would be marvellous to present all the great presentations on the pictures in the National Gallery to children at schools, public and private schools. What are museums for ? A privilege for enjoying the rich and nobels ?
The classification of the great interpretation experts using words as impressionists is very nice and perhaps also the evaluation of who is the greatest painter of this and that classified sections. For me this is not the way, art should be described. In its essence art is beyond the mental capacities.
Bellows proves the rule that as long as your values are right and you maintain abstraction you can paint quite ugly and get away with it. It’s the magic of art
You guys are all current viewers and thus real art lovers, bravo! Bellows boxer paintings are much better and worth getting if they ever come up. This comment line is interesting, maybe us in the US can not send our thought....I have printed this a few times and it will not send every time I try!
What is in the European tradition mean. At some point in history of art influences from all parts of the world have mixed and overlapped making it hard to say that things like realism or perspective define a painting as in the European tradition. Is a Modigliani in the African tradition because he drew from african art.
The National Gallery, for all its marvellous paintings, is still too narrow in its outlook and appreciation. There's a whole world of wonderful art. Oh, and contrary to the beliefs represented by various media and institutions in UK and USA, most of the greatest films, like most films in general, are not in English.
It's specifically for European paintings before 1900. Not sculptures, drawings, mosaics or art after 1900, outside Europe and generally not British artists (unless they are showing it as part of the narrative). It doesn't leave a lot left.
@@dmmw125 London (unlike Paris) has a plethora of Galleries each dealing with their own thing. The Two Tates and the V&A do an admirable job covering much of the rest
@@dmmw125 it doesnt have to though. Its very good at its limited remit and there are others to take up the slack outside it. Otherwise the duplication of roles and collections would be expensive and confusing
if you think about billionaires today and art patrons, I find it strange Les Wexner a patron of anything Ohio State and a giant art collector...couldn't find a few more million in his pockets to bring the painting back to his birthplace of Columbus. I mean I do kind of wish he talked about where the money came from to purchase the painting, Sir Paul Getty; the coincidences between American and the British seem intertwined in a lot of ways; even patrons.
Riopelle says just one sentence in which he makes a guess at what the men are doing and thinking, that he thinks it is about one person missing out on a day job. he figure on the left is surely just as likely to be a scab who the other men are shunning? Riopelle does not think it is worth finding out exactly what Bellow's wanted the painting to show politically.
Im always amazed at how much experts get wrong. Robert Henri was pronounced "Hen-Rye" because his last name was changed after his American born father was involved in scandal. Their original name was Cozad, They were never French. Hen-Rye was how the famous artist always pronounced his name. What else do experts get wrong?
I was standing next to less zoomed in camera and was really aware of this. They prefer not to film people's faces but that became impossible at one stage (you can see through into the adjacent room).
@@ezicarus8216 The speaker is American, That is why I made the comment that no American would pronounce the word "caricaturist" as he does. Just as no American would say Ur-EYE-nal for Urinal or skel-EE-tal for sketetal. Maybe he is playing to a British audience by pronouncing it as he believes a Brit would.
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The composition is amazing.
I loved the video and the presentation of Christopher Riopelle
I am loving this channel, I am absorbing a lot of content about art, so continue with this wonderful work, a hug to all involved of The National Gallery. Big hugs from Recife, Brazil.
It is so important to understand the circumstances in which each painting is born, thank you so much!
I'll never forget the amazing lecture Christopher Riopelle delivered at the Sainsbury Wing Theatre in October 2014 and which also dealt with this stunning painting by Bellows, which at that time, was the latest acquisition by the National Gallery.
This talk is equally brilliant, thank you so very much Dr Riopelle and the National Gallery !
I thoroughly enjoyed that video!
Mr. Riopelle was a terrific presenter and I commend him for this most interesting lecture.
The picture itself is, it seems to me, of outstanding quality, and details pointed to by Mr. Riopelle, of the Brooklyn and Manhattan waterfront, of the buildings, the shipping line and the historical context made for a truly excellent story.
Wonderful painting. A great example of realist painting of the period
Terrific lecture - thank you for making it available to everyone!
He's a great speaker!
Jonathan Hemming. Agreed. He chooses his words carefully, respectfully.
This was an excellent presentation and I'm glad he didn't shy away from the controversy. It's a pity an American institution didn't step up and purchase it, so it could stay in the US.
There have been many outcries from the British when Americans have bought their art treasures so maybe this is a little come uppence.
Excelent explanation! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Excellent video, very interesting and concise presentation which as an MA art history student I truly appreciate, huge thanks!
It would be marvellous to present all the great presentations on the pictures in the National Gallery to children at schools, public and private schools. What are museums for ? A privilege for enjoying the rich and nobels ?
Thank you sir. I learned a lot.
clear and informative. thank you!
Excellent video. Really well explained.
That was brilliant💐 thank you
You’re welcome 😊
amazing
Robert Henri was born in Ohio and spent summers in Cozad, Nebraska where there is now a museum.
excellent video
Loved the presenter.
The classification of the great interpretation experts using words as impressionists is very nice and perhaps also the evaluation of who is the greatest painter of this and that classified sections. For me this is not the way, art should be described. In its essence art is beyond the mental capacities.
Bellows proves the rule that as long as your values are right and you maintain abstraction you can paint quite ugly and get away with it. It’s the magic of art
How serendipitous that the NG should buy its first American painting where the major subject, without knowing it, is a United Kingdom owned ship.
Atm the vast majority of these cruise ships were run by British companies. Many coming from Liverpool and Southampton
You guys are all current viewers and thus real art lovers, bravo! Bellows boxer paintings are much
better and worth getting if they ever come up. This comment line is interesting, maybe us in the US
can not send our thought....I have printed this a few times and it will not send every time I try!
What is in the European tradition mean. At some point in history of art influences from all parts of the world have mixed and overlapped making it hard to say that things like realism or perspective define a painting as in the European tradition. Is a Modigliani in the African tradition because he drew from african art.
I think it means they saw it as reasonably priced (which it was at $25m) with the justification for it being in the European canon an after thought.
The National Gallery, for all its marvellous paintings, is still too narrow in its outlook and appreciation. There's a whole world of wonderful art. Oh, and contrary to the beliefs represented by various media and institutions in UK and USA, most of the greatest films, like most films in general, are not in English.
It's specifically for European paintings before 1900. Not sculptures, drawings, mosaics or art after 1900, outside Europe and generally not British artists (unless they are showing it as part of the narrative).
It doesn't leave a lot left.
@@dmmw125 London (unlike Paris) has a plethora of Galleries each dealing with their own thing. The Two Tates and the V&A do an admirable job covering much of the rest
That's sort of my point. It's got a specific remit which it has to stick to, it can't be that broad given the limitations of that remit.
@@dmmw125 it doesnt have to though. Its very good at its limited remit and there are others to take up the slack outside it. Otherwise the duplication of roles and collections would be expensive and confusing
I'm not disagreeing.
👏👏👏😊
There’s a face in the smoke from the tug.
BTW, wearing backpacks in a museum????....interesting policy.
if you think about billionaires today and art patrons, I find it strange Les Wexner a patron of anything Ohio State and a giant art collector...couldn't find a few more million in his pockets to bring the painting back to his birthplace of Columbus. I mean I do kind of wish he talked about where the money came from to purchase the painting, Sir Paul Getty; the coincidences between American and the British seem intertwined in a lot of ways; even patrons.
Riopelle says just one sentence in which he makes a guess at what the men are doing and thinking, that he thinks it is about one person missing out on a day job. he figure on the left is surely just as likely to be a scab who the other men are shunning? Riopelle does not think it is worth finding out exactly what Bellow's wanted the painting to show politically.
Bellows boxing paintings are much better pieces and worth getting if they ever come up!
Unlikely to be purchased at current exchange rates.
Im always amazed at how much experts get wrong. Robert Henri was pronounced "Hen-Rye" because his last name was changed after his American born father was involved in scandal. Their original name was Cozad, They were never French. Hen-Rye was how the famous artist always pronounced his name. What else do experts get wrong?
There, I've noticed other mispronunciations of names by curators at NG.
Is this really a problem that people pronounce names differently? Never heard such a lot of nonsense over the way van Gogh is spoken.
The fact that he claimed Henri was French indutibly was quite stupid and upsetting in an otherwise decent lecture.
Ducking and weaving ,keep the camera person on their toes!
I was standing next to less zoomed in camera and was really aware of this. They prefer not to film people's faces but that became impossible at one stage (you can see through into the adjacent room).
Do we believe in “innate talent “?
And about his pronunciation of caricature!
No American would stress the second syllable...ever.
His covers been blown.
@@ezicarus8216 The speaker is American, That is why I made the comment that no American would pronounce the word "caricaturist" as he does. Just as no American would say Ur-EYE-nal for Urinal or skel-EE-tal for sketetal. Maybe he is playing to a British audience by pronouncing it as he believes a Brit would.
He is Canadian.
@@elizabethtoews7866- Ah. Interesting.So, am I to understand that all Canadians also pronounce urinal, skeletal and caricature as the British do?