What pisses me off with the Capchas is that they don’t even want human answers. They’ll ask for the squares with traffic lights but won’t accept the ones with like a corner of the traffic light or one in the far off background.
Well, yeah, because it's trying to more closely align what Google's AI thinks a traffic light looks like and what most humans do. You're actually probably helping by getting wrong answers through selecting those whackier edge cases like a corner of one square with the traffic light they wanted because eventually once enough people make that "mistake", Google's AI will be better at recognizing that a corner of a traffic light is still part of the traffic light. As we don't work at Google (unless you do, I guess I can't know whether you or anyone reading this does or doesn't work at Google lmao), we won't know exactly what they're using this data for at what times, but to be honest, while I definitely agree that the image tests are super annoying especially when I'm just trying to login to a website and I fail the test 4 times in a row because I couldn't find the last picture of a fucking fire hydrant, if the payoff for those image tests is a feature like Google's AR walking guide thing on Google Maps where it can immediately orient you (something Google maps often struggles with, especially with walking directions, I was once nearly 10 minutes late to a class because Google Maps thought I was facing a completely different direction) and give you real-life "camera-overlayed" directions with just a quick ~2 second camera view of any nearby street signs or landmarks, I'd say it's worth it.
I always question what it wants me to do when it's "bicycles" - If someone is riding a bike, is the person part of "bicycles" in addition to their bicycle? I usually decide they are.
If the object moved into another square by a couple of pixels, that means it's in that square too, so I select it as well. I don't think too hard about it and just solve this quick so even if I need to do it three times it still will only take less than 5 seconds...
I've had some issues with Captcha on a couple of websites while using a VPN to such a point the Capture would keep repeating the test until I turned off the VPN. Infuriating.
Back when reCAPTCHA was still about helping to digitize public domain books for public benefit, and not about providing free labour for Google's proprietary AI system...
reCaptcha is using mouse movement and if the movement is not straight the captcha is accepted due to the unprecize movement thats why i am making circles one or 2 before hiting the square box
Journalist: "What has motivated you, on a personal level, to develop image recognition software?" Software engineer: "Well, I was constantly failing at those annoying captcha tests..."
Automatically google image search each image and have google tell you what the image contains. UNLIMITED POWERRR. But for real AI and Machine learning will be able to do anything any human with a brain can do.
It already can. At least for specific ones. The one you used to see with letters distorted or full of particles... there's a reason we don't use them anymore. I believe they could solve the checkpoints 'select all the pictures with...' as well, but it would be slower. It's going to have to read the words, image search for that word, combine all 9 pictures, select the target word, split the picture back into 9 and select the boxes marked 'true'.
The absolute irony: Captchas used to repel bots. Captchas simultaneously used to train bots how to do the very thing that the Captcha is supposed to stop the bot from doing. Now bots know how to beat Captcha, so it has to try a different method.
What really makes me mad is that they're stealing human labor (you're training their AI _for free,_ without them even disclosing it to you) to train an AI that will eventually replace even more human labor. Google is getting free labor from you to train a bot that is going to give them more free labor. I'm starting to slightly wonder if the luddites were right. It's the grapes of wrath all over again.
The worst part of the picture captchas: It takes 30 seconds for a new picture to replace the one you just clicked And it ends up taking 5 minutes even if you dont fail.
These captchas trained me well. In the last few month I really try to add a few seconds before clicking 'Verify' (or what it is called in my language). It's really irritating, there are times when just the checkmark appears at a lot of captchas and three hours later I have a nerve breakdown because it's the fifth, sixth, seventh attempt (again!!!) and I don't know what I did wrong. Should I have added this very very little corner of the car? One problem is really the speed with which you move the mouse over the squares after thousands of captchas or recognize images while they are still fading in. Not only AIs can be trained. But they can better pretend to be stupid and wait before continuing, the captchas only hold me up and I want to move on quickly, apparently too fast for the set program parameters.
I've had where it continuously rejects my selections to the point where I go somewhere else after sending the website admins some complaints about the captchas not working. I also hated those word ones as I would get words that were so garbled I had no idea what they were or I would get non English words that had symbols above them. The worst are the audio captchas with so much static I had no clue what was being said. I also don't like the ad captchas where you have to watch an ad to get the phrase needed to get through. The worst ones are where you have to keep clicking certain images until none are showing the item. They take way too long.
2:13 I think it’s somewhat ironic that we are imputing data to help build AI’s for self driving cars, except we let an Ai determine if our input is correct or wrong even though we are literally training it to know what’s right
Also, to add to what Nabeel said, one or two of the correct choices will be known beforehand. You'll only be providing info on the third one the AI isn't certain about. Unlike the text ones where sometimes you could very easily tell which word was generated and which was a scan (so you could just write 'apostrophe butts' when it was 'apostrophe unicorn' for example), these are all just photos, so working the one the Captcha is unsure of is a lot harder.
@@tharsis I had one where it was just wrong. I was supposed to select parking meters and one of the pictures was of a Taco Bell sign. At a glance the sign resembled a parking meter. The captcha wouldn't let me progress until I selected the sign. Guessing enough people selected it at a glance that it was trained to think it was a parking meter. When self driving cars avoid parking at Taco Bell, I guess I know why.
@@tharsis Not really, sometimes the captcha gives you a question without knowing the answer. In that case it will fail regardless of what you type and show the next, real captcha. Those always fail captchas are what is used to to train the AI's An interesting fact, back in the old times captchas were mostly house numbers. Google used those to figure out addresses on google maps using pictures from street view. The AI figured out where the number is, and let 20 humans read it, if most of them agreed, then that's the address
I've noticed for the past 4-5 years those "arcane picture puzzles multiple times" have been a thing on certain sites. It's really annoying, especially when you do them properly but they still say you "failed" lol.
There is extensions which bypass much of this. I like Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans Basically, if you click the headphones on the bottom then you get audio. The thing uses speech to text which inputs what it heard. All you see is you click a button and it does everything on it's own.
It's been this way since they purchased Re-CAPTCHA. Re-CAPTCHA itself had a negative reputation for end user exploitation. EDIT: apparently "Re-CAPTCHA" without the added dash is a naughty word according to TH-cam. Really reinforces confidence in these AI systems.
@@TheOneAndOnlyOuuo are you refering to the word that starts with an N and is used to discribe the color that results from lack of any other color of light?
I was in charge of OCR sorting machines for the Royal Mail back in 92. Could read 50k an hour of either typed or hand written envelopes. To be honest I think it's been slow finding it's was to the world.
@@user-ie6xv6lu9h Now someone is talking! Those assholes that write those things. You see half of a tire on a car, and they ask you to click if there is a car. You waste 14 seconds to get it wrong so you can spend another 14, and maybe MORE. Those assholes can screw themselves.
I had a captcha that told me to click all the boxes with a fire hydrant in it. But it was just one picture of a mail box and nothing else. I worried that if I clicked the mailbox, then some future AI would think that a mailbox was a fire hydrant and vise versa.
This is the other thing. In the UK, fire hydrants are rectangular slabs of iron on the pavement / road that you can walk or drive over without noticing they are there. The fire fighters have a big 1.2m key thing that they use to open them.
I’m severely visually impaired so the visual puzzle captures are impossible for me, fortunately the audio ones that normally come with these seem to be reasonable but I’m surprised they’re not an easier attack point for bots.
Some months ago, I tried to make a new github account. But the captcha was so hard that I couldn't solve it after hours. (In this captcha you had to decide, what image has dices that shows the number 14 together. The hard part is, that if you make one mistake you have to start from the beginning and you have to make it fast, because there is a time limit (that doesn't even makes sence for me, because if I was a bot, I would be faster at doing this) and as more attemps I failed, as more puzzles I had to solve (starting at 10 but increasing by 5 everytime)) At this time it was easier to make a bot to solve that captcha. And now is the captcha very easy thankfully.
Some of these new captchas are unsolveable on a tiny phone screen. Sure, I can see that bicycle in the background on a big screen, but sometimes those things are not big enough to see clearly on a phone. If you could zoom in it would be great, but zoom is usually not available.
I have a picture CAPTCHA once that was wrong. One of the pictures required was not the requested item. It wanted parking metered but a mailbox was also required.
I have had enough of those captcha boxes since they were overwhelmingly repeating on my chrome on my laptop, indicating an "Unusual Network Traffic" and an Abuse from a chrome extension.
Someone once said: In the future, you tell humans and robots apart by humans failing badly at those tests. Robots are so advanced then, they do those with absolute ease. 😁
That's just what I was thinking. In theory it should be possible to design a captcha that is almost impossible for a human to solve correctly, but which a bot will pass 99.9% of the time. Kinda like reverse psychology?
The worst things about the newer picture ones are definitely the crappy, poor resolution and sizes which makes it a struggle for even people with super vision (who cares about accessibility, right?), and the complete lack of localisation. In the UK we have aeroplane, not airplane; bus, not motorbus; fire engines that carry their own damn water, not fire hydrant. Etc.
Finally someone listened to me and replaced the white background. Now its easier for me to watch the video with all the lights off. How hard was that ?
There's an accessibility feature in settings (at least on Windows) that you can use mouse with a numpad, so following movement that way wouldn't be feasible for those users. Most simple bots just jump from one form field to another without actual mouse movement involved. Timing pattern can usually tell apart bots from even keyboard only users.
@@killear1 Yeah, online stores kinda don't actually use recaptcha. Why don't they? Because eeeeh, who cares, we're selling GPUs anyway, doesn't matter if it goes to bots :D
I always make sure to overshoot the checkbox or spira/curve towards it when i get near it, just to look authentic and not have to do image captcha afterwards. Works most of the time
So we do captcha tests to prove were not robots to a computer and then our answers are used to train robots to know which image contains a traffic light?
The most annoying ones are those that so bloody random, that they ask you to select pictures of things - that aren't ever there!!!. It's like "select a number between 1 - 99" and then it gives you two choices: "0" & "100". And then "you failed! try again!"
"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."
I hate those captchas where the images disappear if you click them. Takes ages for a image to reappear so you can check if it has that object youre trying to find
I had one the other day that was "identify all parking meters", but one of the pictures was a mailbox. Have fun with your self driving car that parks in front of mailboxes.
I intentionally answer quite a few captchas incorrectly (and using firefox plus a vpn, google gives me a lot) When information is power, disinformation or saying "I don't know" are the only forms of resistance
In the future, captcha will be an automated Turing test where an AI will be used to check if you are a robot. Those AI will be checked monthly if they are a robot and regularly checked by a congressional hearing if they are a robot. All these done automatically.
I remember a few months ago I was a logging into steam and I guess there was a server error somewhere, cuz I had to do the “the pictures with that “ thing a lot, I grabbed my buddy and we did it like 30 times before rebooting the modem
A pharmacy I go to has a QR code online contact tracing form that they require before allowing entry, so I would be standing in front of the store filling up the form on my phone. The form finishes with a Captcha. Why would a store think the person filling up the form in fromt of said store could potentially be a robot? 🙄🙄🙄
I thought it was just me getting older who was getting frustrated with the increased difficulty of captchas. Comforting to find that's not the only cause.
then there is the problem of when you are too good and get 110%... like when they missed a fire hydrant in the back at the other side of the street but you did not and clicked on it.
The DNA sample collector, much like current fingerprint sensors, would still be able to get botted though, lol. You could still always fake the output of the damn thing.
IIRC, the "I am not a robot" prompt also checks if you're logged in with a google account. If you are, you pass the initial screening and can proceed. Not sure if this is a Chrome(ium) exclusive thing, though.
it's not hard... but more like confusing. When they give 16 division of 1 picture saying "chimney" I don't know whether if few pixel out of the border count or not.
As someone who deletes cookies and cache a few times a day, the CAPTCHAs get annoying. And I refuse to stop deleting my history just to allow them to more effectively track me.
should just browse in incognito/private mode only; then you don't have to delete cookies or cache. With that said, you're going to have to do more than that if you want to seriously prevent tracking
When ever I see a Google captcha I just spam click around the screen randomly and then click the tick box. Most of the time it works. What if a robot did the same thing and just was coded to click randomly and then click the tick?
It's not that captcha is hard it's that it never fucking functions the way it's supposed to and thusly it shits the bed and we somehow think that we're mistaken in what we're doing when no it's simply not fucking working.
You guys should cover any and all VR news. I know it’s probably not going to benefit you as a company to cover that topic but, VR is still growing and the tech will only get better. I follow a lot of tech channels so having LTT (the one I watch the most) cover that type of news would be awesome!
I think we should use the 2 source and or 4 source I.D.; (one) is your facial recognition and or password, and (two) is alpha / numeric code emailed and or texted. It will be many, many, years before bots can assimilate and master all 4 methods. Windows 11 will also help with the TPM 2.0 modules.
Well. You have to get the captcha correct in order to go to the page so for those text based captchas someone would have had to answer it and make the database know the answer so how does our answers help the ai?
In the state where I came from ppl hired to do captcha puzzles at the rate of ~0.2USD/100 puzzles for specific websites (Such as shopping websites to diss competitor s / pro themselves).
Any program or site that uses Captcha get the lowest score and gets deleted/banned. I not been shopping at a local store for 2 years since they use captcha.
Yea, I hate that crap. I still don't know if you're supposed to click the pole parts too or just the actual traffic light box part. Or when there's a tiny one or two pixel corner of the fire hydrant in an adjacent box... do I click that too? Sometimes it's hard to tell if those few pixels are really overhanging into the next box or not as well.
last year until this february I got these captcha really often when I use vpn, but weirdly from then on maybe they exclude some vpn ip so I don't get captcha anymore, maybe only 2-3 times a week now :')
Suggestion of subject: why videoconference software are so bad? - >2sc of audio lag - very low bitraite ( 200ko/s maximum) - old codec , never saw some X265 - maximum 720p when we have 4k webcam - no 60fps ...... after 1.5 year of pandemic with a high usage of these app, it still crap, looking like what we expect from 2007
captcha: the "friend" of every TOR user (or "browse the web securely with our very special VPN, -20% now!" customer with too many customers accessing the same sites with the same exit IP). tl,dr: it's a symptom, not a problem per se.
I believe LMG is at the point where they can create tech documentaries for some good and deep titles or questions maybe you guys should think about it?
I fail the "I'm not a robot" check box almost every time. Have no idea what I do wrong. Click the damn box, and process but nooo. The multi-selection fuckers are even worse, you have to do 10 sets just to proceed.
OK, but how do they actually train A.I. using captchas? Because if we get the captcha wrong we get a message "Hey you got it wrong". For that to happen they would have to categorize the images (this is a bicycle, this is a cross-walk, etc), for the system to know what it is. So what's the point of me actually getting it right?
Neil deGrasse Tyson has said that reality is most likely a simulation. This means we are potentially the AI being trained. Reality is weird. Once you accept that things get easier to deal with when they don't make sense. 😁🐿️
I hate traffic light since i never know if the thing with the actual lights is enough of the whole post.Also,i hate it when there is 99,99% of the crosswalk on one picture and 0,01% on the other,does that count then???
What pisses me off with the Capchas is that they don’t even want human answers. They’ll ask for the squares with traffic lights but won’t accept the ones with like a corner of the traffic light or one in the far off background.
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Well, yeah, because it's trying to more closely align what Google's AI thinks a traffic light looks like and what most humans do.
You're actually probably helping by getting wrong answers through selecting those whackier edge cases like a corner of one square with the traffic light they wanted because eventually once enough people make that "mistake", Google's AI will be better at recognizing that a corner of a traffic light is still part of the traffic light.
As we don't work at Google (unless you do, I guess I can't know whether you or anyone reading this does or doesn't work at Google lmao), we won't know exactly what they're using this data for at what times, but to be honest, while I definitely agree that the image tests are super annoying especially when I'm just trying to login to a website and I fail the test 4 times in a row because I couldn't find the last picture of a fucking fire hydrant, if the payoff for those image tests is a feature like Google's AR walking guide thing on Google Maps where it can immediately orient you (something Google maps often struggles with, especially with walking directions, I was once nearly 10 minutes late to a class because Google Maps thought I was facing a completely different direction) and give you real-life "camera-overlayed" directions with just a quick ~2 second camera view of any nearby street signs or landmarks, I'd say it's worth it.
I always question what it wants me to do when it's "bicycles" - If someone is riding a bike, is the person part of "bicycles" in addition to their bicycle?
I usually decide they are.
If the object moved into another square by a couple of pixels, that means it's in that square too, so I select it as well.
I don't think too hard about it and just solve this quick so even if I need to do it three times it still will only take less than 5 seconds...
@@Arek_R. every seconds counts when you’re getting verified to put a ps5 in your cart
I've had some issues with Captcha on a couple of websites while using a VPN to such a point the Capture would keep repeating the test until I turned off the VPN. Infuriating.
I have the same issue, to fix it i just google a google product then what every i was after, after that. Nice bypass
Try going to google while using a VPN
Impossible
@@Solonggulle that's why I stopped using Google ages ago.
@@cdpointless6819 wait, that works?
@@Solonggulle having 0 issues with that to be honest, you using pia?
Oof those old captchas hit me right in the nostalgia bone
xd
They hit me in the head and stole my '46 inch plasma screen
Back when reCAPTCHA was still about helping to digitize public domain books for public benefit, and not about providing free labour for Google's proprietary AI system...
reCaptcha is using mouse movement and if the movement is not straight the captcha is accepted due to the unprecize movement thats why i am making circles one or 2 before hiting the square box
I didn't know I had that bone until you mentioned it gosh
Journalist: "What has motivated you, on a personal level, to develop image recognition software?"
Software engineer: "Well, I was constantly failing at those annoying captcha tests..."
Automatically google image search each image and have google tell you what the image contains. UNLIMITED POWERRR. But for real AI and Machine learning will be able to do anything any human with a brain can do.
At some point only AI will be able to do the CAPTCHA
Next step will be AI doing all the LTT store orders for us; along with bulk toilet paper purchases…
Maybe we already are AI...........
@@mycosys Nope, we are BI.
Biological Intelligence.
It already can. At least for specific ones. The one you used to see with letters distorted or full of particles... there's a reason we don't use them anymore. I believe they could solve the checkpoints 'select all the pictures with...' as well, but it would be slower. It's going to have to read the words, image search for that word, combine all 9 pictures, select the target word, split the picture back into 9 and select the boxes marked 'true'.
Nah, it'll be an exam and we'll need an Internet user License after a 1 years course
favorite thing about captchas is old people saying "Why is it making me do this? Of course I'm not a robot!!!"
thats what a robot would say
@@lsoldeMaduschen _sus_
The absolute irony:
Captchas used to repel bots.
Captchas simultaneously used to train bots how to do the very thing that the Captcha is supposed to stop the bot from doing.
Now bots know how to beat Captcha, so it has to try a different method.
So more like Captcha-22
What really makes me mad is that they're stealing human labor (you're training their AI _for free,_ without them even disclosing it to you) to train an AI that will eventually replace even more human labor. Google is getting free labor from you to train a bot that is going to give them more free labor.
I'm starting to slightly wonder if the luddites were right. It's the grapes of wrath all over again.
Captcha: In the event of a robot uprising, where would you, as a human, be most likely to hide?
i built a digital covid to infect the terminators
Im not stupid you are an institute spy
"Damn those slightly off object to the adjacent image CAPTCHA"
SunTzu, the art of frustration
The worst part of the picture captchas: It takes 30 seconds for a new picture to replace the one you just clicked
And it ends up taking 5 minutes even if you dont fail.
These captchas trained me well. In the last few month I really try to add a few seconds before clicking 'Verify' (or what it is called in my language).
It's really irritating, there are times when just the checkmark appears at a lot of captchas and three hours later I have a nerve breakdown because it's the fifth, sixth, seventh attempt (again!!!) and I don't know what I did wrong. Should I have added this very very little corner of the car?
One problem is really the speed with which you move the mouse over the squares after thousands of captchas or recognize images while they are still fading in. Not only AIs can be trained. But they can better pretend to be stupid and wait before continuing, the captchas only hold me up and I want to move on quickly, apparently too fast for the set program parameters.
You’re not fooling anybody, Robot.
Pro tip: the audio captchas are way less frustrating
Bruh, i never used jt
Oh my god, I completely forgot about the audio captcha
And you can easily write a Phyton-script, wich uses Google AI, to solve it
@@matthias_2125 with a little help of NVIDIA RTX background noise cancelling
@@matthias_2125 Easily? Hardly SMH.
I've had where it continuously rejects my selections to the point where I go somewhere else after sending the website admins some complaints about the captchas not working. I also hated those word ones as I would get words that were so garbled I had no idea what they were or I would get non English words that had symbols above them. The worst are the audio captchas with so much static I had no clue what was being said. I also don't like the ad captchas where you have to watch an ad to get the phrase needed to get through. The worst ones are where you have to keep clicking certain images until none are showing the item. They take way too long.
2:13 I think it’s somewhat ironic that we are imputing data to help build AI’s for self driving cars, except we let an Ai determine if our input is correct or wrong even though we are literally training it to know what’s right
And nobody said you can't skip correct answers and select wrong ones when its unsure
It matches your answer against what other people have said
Also, to add to what Nabeel said, one or two of the correct choices will be known beforehand. You'll only be providing info on the third one the AI isn't certain about. Unlike the text ones where sometimes you could very easily tell which word was generated and which was a scan (so you could just write 'apostrophe butts' when it was 'apostrophe unicorn' for example), these are all just photos, so working the one the Captcha is unsure of is a lot harder.
@@tharsis I had one where it was just wrong. I was supposed to select parking meters and one of the pictures was of a Taco Bell sign. At a glance the sign resembled a parking meter. The captcha wouldn't let me progress until I selected the sign. Guessing enough people selected it at a glance that it was trained to think it was a parking meter. When self driving cars avoid parking at Taco Bell, I guess I know why.
@@tharsis
Not really, sometimes the captcha gives you a question without knowing the answer.
In that case it will fail regardless of what you type and show the next, real captcha.
Those always fail captchas are what is used to to train the AI's
An interesting fact, back in the old times captchas were mostly house numbers.
Google used those to figure out addresses on google maps using pictures from street view.
The AI figured out where the number is, and let 20 humans read it,
if most of them agreed, then that's the address
I've noticed for the past 4-5 years those "arcane picture puzzles multiple times" have been a thing on certain sites. It's really annoying, especially when you do them properly but they still say you "failed" lol.
There is extensions which bypass much of this. I like Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans
Basically, if you click the headphones on the bottom then you get audio. The thing uses speech to text which inputs what it heard. All you see is you click a button and it does everything on it's own.
Sounds like CAPTCHAs have just been turned into a way for google to get people to train its AI for free.
It's been this way since they purchased Re-CAPTCHA. Re-CAPTCHA itself had a negative reputation for end user exploitation. EDIT: apparently "Re-CAPTCHA" without the added dash is a naughty word according to TH-cam. Really reinforces confidence in these AI systems.
Yeah thats why i just don't do captchas anymore or at least googles ones im fine with other captchas
This is why I intentionally fail them intermittently. If they want free labor, they could make it more convenient.
@@TheOneAndOnlyOuuo are you refering to the word that starts with an N and is used to discribe the color that results from lack of any other color of light?
The red "recaptcha" used back in 2010 brought back a lot of memories. I miss those.
I was in charge of OCR sorting machines for the Royal Mail back in 92. Could read 50k an hour of either typed or hand written envelopes. To be honest I think it's been slow finding it's was to the world.
"And that, my dear children, is how skynet came up."
its not Skynet its Legion now
Exterminate!
@@user-ie6xv6lu9h Now someone is talking! Those assholes that write those things. You see half of a tire on a car, and they ask you to click if there is a car. You waste 14 seconds to get it wrong so you can spend another 14, and maybe MORE. Those assholes can screw themselves.
Skynet came to be because of fully automatic neuclear launches.
@@RFDN0 like the ones that Russia has?
I had a captcha that told me to click all the boxes with a fire hydrant in it. But it was just one picture of a mail box and nothing else. I worried that if I clicked the mailbox, then some future AI would think that a mailbox was a fire hydrant and vise versa.
This is the other thing. In the UK, fire hydrants are rectangular slabs of iron on the pavement / road that you can walk or drive over without noticing they are there. The fire fighters have a big 1.2m key thing that they use to open them.
I’m severely visually impaired so the visual puzzle captures are impossible for me, fortunately the audio ones that normally come with these seem to be reasonable but I’m surprised they’re not an easier attack point for bots.
A *lot* less people have done the audio ones, so they're learning slower - they'll get harder over time too.
Some months ago, I tried to make a new github account. But the captcha was so hard that I couldn't solve it after hours.
(In this captcha you had to decide, what image has dices that shows the number 14 together. The hard part is, that if you make one mistake you have to start from the beginning and you have to make it fast, because there is a time limit (that doesn't even makes sence for me, because if I was a bot, I would be faster at doing this) and as more attemps I failed, as more puzzles I had to solve (starting at 10 but increasing by 5 everytime))
At this time it was easier to make a bot to solve that captcha.
And now is the captcha very easy thankfully.
Some of these new captchas are unsolveable on a tiny phone screen. Sure, I can see that bicycle in the background on a big screen, but sometimes those things are not big enough to see clearly on a phone. If you could zoom in it would be great, but zoom is usually not available.
I have a picture CAPTCHA once that was wrong. One of the pictures required was not the requested item.
It wanted parking metered but a mailbox was also required.
I have had enough of those captcha boxes since they were overwhelmingly repeating on my chrome on my laptop, indicating an "Unusual Network Traffic" and an Abuse from a chrome extension.
Maybe you shouldn't use chrome then
Someone once said:
In the future, you tell humans and robots apart by humans failing badly at those tests. Robots are so advanced then, they do those with absolute ease. 😁
That's just what I was thinking. In theory it should be possible to design a captcha that is almost impossible for a human to solve correctly, but which a bot will pass 99.9% of the time. Kinda like reverse psychology?
Imagine all the free labour that was garnered from this, has to be in the trillions.
The worst things about the newer picture ones are definitely the crappy, poor resolution and sizes which makes it a struggle for even people with super vision (who cares about accessibility, right?), and the complete lack of localisation. In the UK we have aeroplane, not airplane; bus, not motorbus; fire engines that carry their own damn water, not fire hydrant. Etc.
Finally someone listened to me and replaced the white background. Now its easier for me to watch the video with all the lights off. How hard was that ?
Last year when I was trying to get a PS5 Walmart had captchas that if you failed you were put in the back of the online queue. The pressure…
fun fact: I was using my DS4's right stick to move the mouse, so it moved in lines. I still got past recaptcha.
There's an accessibility feature in settings (at least on Windows) that you can use mouse with a numpad, so following movement that way wouldn't be feasible for those users.
Most simple bots just jump from one form field to another without actual mouse movement involved. Timing pattern can usually tell apart bots from even keyboard only users.
Robots are faster than we could ever be at doing that when the rtx 30 edition came out the bots bought them out before any person could
@@RadioactiveBlueberry I guess a mouse jumping check makes more sense, the video is showing wrong info then
the speed of the movement is also important in these. Bots simulating a mouse would just jump to a pixel rather than moving through the screen.
@@killear1 Yeah, online stores kinda don't actually use recaptcha. Why don't they? Because eeeeh, who cares, we're selling GPUs anyway, doesn't matter if it goes to bots :D
song, background music of second half is deviation by twelwe
ive literally been crying for the last hour trying to pass a captcha so i can watch a show and every single time i get it wrong it makes no sense
I always make sure to overshoot the checkbox or spira/curve towards it when i get near it, just to look authentic and not have to do image captcha afterwards. Works most of the time
So we do captcha tests to prove were not robots to a computer and then our answers are used to train robots to know which image contains a traffic light?
The most annoying ones are those that so bloody random, that they ask you to select pictures of things - that aren't ever there!!!. It's like "select a number between 1 - 99" and then it gives you two choices: "0" & "100". And then "you failed! try again!"
"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."
I hate those captchas where the images disappear if you click them. Takes ages for a image to reappear so you can check if it has that object youre trying to find
I hate that certain Captcha where it would show something really small in another box so you don't press it and you fail afterwards it's so anoying
I had one the other day that was "identify all parking meters", but one of the pictures was a mailbox. Have fun with your self driving car that parks in front of mailboxes.
I intentionally answer quite a few captchas incorrectly (and using firefox plus a vpn, google gives me a lot)
When information is power, disinformation or saying "I don't know" are the only forms of resistance
2:04
I'm reasonably sure there was a snarky comment about the promo code being LinusTechTips on the Techquickie channel, which was edited out..
Ever noticed that it takes 3 seconds for a new image to re appear on those select all images of cars, if there are none click skip
In the future, captcha will be an automated Turing test where an AI will be used to check if you are a robot. Those AI will be checked monthly if they are a robot and regularly checked by a congressional hearing if they are a robot. All these done automatically.
I remember a few months ago I was a logging into steam and I guess there was a server error somewhere, cuz I had to do the “the pictures with that “ thing a lot, I grabbed my buddy and we did it like 30 times before rebooting the modem
A pharmacy I go to has a QR code online contact tracing form that they require before allowing entry, so I would be standing in front of the store filling up the form on my phone. The form finishes with a Captcha. Why would a store think the person filling up the form in fromt of said store could potentially be a robot? 🙄🙄🙄
I thought it was just me getting older who was getting frustrated with the increased difficulty of captchas. Comforting to find that's not the only cause.
then there is the problem of when you are too good and get 110%... like when they missed a fire hydrant in the back at the other side of the street but you did not and clicked on it.
@TaranVH love the cropped wrench as stand in for the syringe holder. Always a fan of quick, but effective graphics!
If the tip of the object the captcha is asking to find is on the tip of a box, does that box get selected?
The DNA sample collector, much like current fingerprint sensors, would still be able to get botted though, lol. You could still always fake the output of the damn thing.
The ultimate way to beat captcha is to become a cyborg and confuse the hell out of the captcha till it self destructs.
IIRC, the "I am not a robot" prompt also checks if you're logged in with a google account. If you are, you pass the initial screening and can proceed. Not sure if this is a Chrome(ium) exclusive thing, though.
I don't like that so any site can tell if your logged into a google account and what account sounds really bad for privacy
3:51 LOL!! I was gonna post a funny comment saying at some point they are gonna ask for blood samples but you beat me to it xD
It probably wouldnt even be that hard to generate valid human genomes tbh
Captcha when submitting Google Form: I'm about to end this whole
it's not hard... but more like confusing. When they give 16 division of 1 picture saying "chimney" I don't know whether if few pixel out of the border count or not.
Yeah 😂😂🤣
As someone who deletes cookies and cache a few times a day, the CAPTCHAs get annoying. And I refuse to stop deleting my history just to allow them to more effectively track me.
should just browse in incognito/private mode only; then you don't have to delete cookies or cache. With that said, you're going to have to do more than that if you want to seriously prevent tracking
using tor browser might be your solution!
@@nax4448 time to make my own ISP
I recently started to make deliberate mistakes in the captcha tests. It still lets me in 100% of the time.
What type of gamepad is the grey one, appearing on the lower left at 1:53 ?
Love how the example they used at 1:12 is human defenestration.
When captcha asks to me select the traffic light and one of the box appears only the tip.
Hmmmm I'm not sure why I didn't figure that one out. Good job and very helpful.
When ever I see a Google captcha I just spam click around the screen randomly and then click the tick box. Most of the time it works. What if a robot did the same thing and just was coded to click randomly and then click the tick?
Roblox Log In on every internet cafés be like (all units in deepfreezed state): *Child friendly CAPTCHA thing shows up*
Commercial entity trains AI. Leases AI to Bot company.
Us more farked than ever.
It's not that captcha is hard it's that it never fucking functions the way it's supposed to and thusly it shits the bed and we somehow think that we're mistaken in what we're doing when no it's simply not fucking working.
You guys should cover any and all VR news. I know it’s probably not going to benefit you as a company to cover that topic but, VR is still growing and the tech will only get better. I follow a lot of tech channels so having LTT (the one I watch the most) cover that type of news would be awesome!
I was hoping that you would cover why I have recently seen GAN images in captcha
I think we should use the 2 source and or 4 source I.D.; (one) is your facial recognition and or password, and (two) is alpha / numeric code emailed and or texted. It will be many, many, years before bots can assimilate and master all 4 methods. Windows 11 will also help with the TPM 2.0 modules.
Well. You have to get the captcha correct in order to go to the page so for those text based captchas someone would have had to answer it and make the database know the answer so how does our answers help the ai?
At 3:03, what does he mean by "how you switch tabs"
Loved the ending to this video. Adjustable wrench attached to a syringe for a blood sample to continue. lol
This guy got both so much better looking and better at speaking. I may even like him more than the main guy now
Ooh please tell me you're doing a cool LTT video on Jackery. My friend's company picked a few up and they're amazing!
yeah I've sometimes gotten around recaptcha by wildly moving my mouse around, but this doesn't seem to work anymore.
In the state where I came from ppl hired to do captcha puzzles at the rate of ~0.2USD/100 puzzles for specific websites (Such as shopping websites to diss competitor
s / pro themselves).
Any program or site that uses Captcha get the lowest score and gets deleted/banned.
I not been shopping at a local store for 2 years since they use captcha.
That one box with only a tiny bit of the traffic light pisses me off
Is the pole part of the stop light? I can't ever get those right...
Yea, I hate that crap. I still don't know if you're supposed to click the pole parts too or just the actual traffic light box part. Or when there's a tiny one or two pixel corner of the fire hydrant in an adjacent box... do I click that too? Sometimes it's hard to tell if those few pixels are really overhanging into the next box or not as well.
One time I had to keep doing captcha over and over again and never cood be accepted so I just gave up.
I still can't get those word captchas most of the time, it's like trying to play wheres waldo with a word
last year until this february I got these captcha really often when I use vpn, but weirdly from then on maybe they exclude some vpn ip so I don't get captcha anymore, maybe only 2-3 times a week now :')
Suggestion of subject: why videoconference software are so bad?
- >2sc of audio lag
- very low bitraite ( 200ko/s maximum)
- old codec , never saw some X265
- maximum 720p when we have 4k webcam
- no 60fps
...... after 1.5 year of pandemic with a high usage of these app, it still crap, looking like what we expect from 2007
The picture one is also very American. For example we don't have fire hydrants here and we call cross-walks zebra crossings.
It's so annoying, I type without looking at the keyboard and so I type really fast and then I get this prompt "Prove you're not a robot"
Maybe you could cover what the actual physical difference is between a CPU and a GPU, and how that makes them suited for the operations they perform?
Have you done a Techquckie on thumbprint readers?
I think a "cameras explained" video would be nice
One thing that I hate the most with captcha is that I can't pass on a very slow network that makes me retry again and again.
Cover Corp already has a robot that is able to solve any kind of captchas. Her name is Roboco.
0:21 now?, We've been doing them for years
captcha: the "friend" of every TOR user (or "browse the web securely with our very special VPN, -20% now!" customer with too many customers accessing the same sites with the same exit IP).
tl,dr: it's a symptom, not a problem per se.
If I do the picture ones too fast it’ll reject me. So annoying and it bugs me I have to do work for google
Any site that prompts me for captcha is not worth visiting for me.
I believe LMG is at the point where they can create tech documentaries for some good and deep titles or questions maybe you guys should think about it?
I fail the "I'm not a robot" check box almost every time. Have no idea what I do wrong. Click the damn box, and process but nooo.
The multi-selection fuckers are even worse, you have to do 10 sets just to proceed.
OK, but how do they actually train A.I. using captchas? Because if we get the captcha wrong we get a message "Hey you got it wrong". For that to happen they would have to categorize the images (this is a bicycle, this is a cross-walk, etc), for the system to know what it is. So what's the point of me actually getting it right?
It just judges based on what previous users marked as "right."
Neil deGrasse Tyson has said that reality is most likely a simulation. This means we are potentially the AI being trained.
Reality is weird. Once you accept that things get easier to deal with when they don't make sense. 😁🐿️
I had one with tools and they had pics of Linus and Jayz2Cents... What do you do in this case... especially when Jay wasn't holding an iFixIt???
I hate traffic light since i never know if the thing with the actual lights is enough of the whole post.Also,i hate it when there is 99,99% of the crosswalk on one picture and 0,01% on the other,does that count then???