THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BEST!?! Reacting to "Sephiroth vs Vergil Death Battle"
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What you missed _half_ way through is that Virgil's regen can be overwhelmed.
@@LegendsForever206 Then every video would be an hour long
They made Vergil's healingfactor much weaker than it is & they made Sepiroth much stronger than he is
@@obsidianwolf9966 I mean, Sepiroth's level varies a bit depending on the party's level by the end of FF7, if you're assuming peak Sepiroth.. that'd be level 999 or whatnot at which point.... Yeah, he is that strong.
@@accywacky2699 I won't deny that they made sephiroth accurate but they definitely forgot a few things in virgils favor. His teleportation and dimensional slash would have stopped super nova from ever touching him.
@@blazingbluedeath Thats the thing about exploding suns is that the heat they emanate from that close or from REALLY far away would have burned Vergil to a crisp in an instant the moment he even saw it and the gravitational pull it causes is so massive it slowed Vergils movements as it takes him more time and strength to even pull of his sword. The only reason Vergil was able to do anything in that situation was because his healing factor made it possible. Vergil is strong but he isnt THAT strong that he can just shrug off an point blank supernova and instantly react to it.
Something you need to remember when Vergil was cut in half by Dante was that his two halves were still together, making the healing process seamless. When he was cut in half by Sephiroth, he was in the air where his two halves went flying. No real healing from that.
So its slightly slower than a sword swing
@@theduckgoesmoo why are you doing Naruto VS Ichigo last
@@DIEFORME173
I think it had something to do with spoilers. Maybe he’s watching Naruto and/or Bleach on the side?
Also healing seems to exhaust him. The one time dante cut him in half put him on his knees, i think its fair to say that his healing factor can get overwhelmed
@@theduckgoesmoo one of the six heroes from BlazBlue as a sword that can cut through time without creating a paradox
3:59 "This must be the remaster" *Nope.* That's Crisis Core, which is a prequel where you play Zack.
I loved that it allowed us to see Sephiroth before he went crazy
@@catxborsuq1 And find out about his hair care regimen.
XDD Exactly my point!
Here’s my motto. If a Mofo has his own boss theme where they CHANT HIS NAME then imma vote for him.
So true
And I argue that point with " I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!!"
@@Punished_Luna In all fairness, the Death Battle was made before DMC5.
@@redraven123 It was, Vergil now stomps this, but before he was a bit of a pushover tbh.
@@Supernerd471 Yes, it’s because in DMC1 Dante folded him. Some plot holes made it so he could come back. I’m talking about Vergil at the end of DMC5.
16:40
he sheathed his sword cause Virgil's style is heavily based on Iaijutsu, or japanese QuickDraw.
Sephiroth isn't a Cetra. That idea comes from when Hojo thought Jenova was a Cetra in his earlier work.
Ooooh the game is very confusing
One thing to remember when a character has a healing factor: if the character takes enough damage the healing factor won't be able to compensate, and they'll still die.
Yeah, this is a VERY controversial battle because it’s the one where they arguably hid the most information from us. They get better at it going forward, but you still have to deal with a lot of that for a while. This is just the worst instance of it. Plus obviously, with characters this powerful, you’re going to have people who are convinced that one stomps the other. Either way yeah, most people I’ve seen typically sided with Vergil after hearing the analysis, so you’re not alone there
Didn't they also go from saying "Vergil's main weapon can cut through dimensions" to "once Vergil was caught in Sephiroth's Super Nova [dimension] *he had no way to escape"* ?
@@Yami-no-Raiden I don’t remember them saying the second part, and I wouldn’t imagine they did since they had Vergil cut through a dimension to escape in the fight. They did say that Vergil’s healing factor couldn’t hold up to the Supernova though
Green lantern vs ben 10 wos the worse
@@CV08 Not in terms of hidden information. They brought up pretty much everything important for Ben 10, they just didn’t seem to factor a lot of it into the conclusion.
Even worse now that DMC5 came out and gave Vergil a whole new form and proved he CAN cut through dimensions.
6:00 fun fact: that scene is from the Final Fantasy: Advent Children movie, which was referenced in Sephiroth’s reveal trailer.
Fun fact: Jenova merely molded "herself" into a humanoid form - she's really just a shapeless mass of cells.
Also, something a lot of people missed is that Vergil not breaking to Arkham's illusion...that was a testament to his courage, not mental resistance.
Jenova isn't just a collection of cells, though. She's another lifeform from another planet that went through the Omega Weapon process. Planetary Warfare, literally, as my brother put it.
@@brother_of_light She's very much just a formless blob. The way it works is that her consciousness lives on through her cells. Even after being "killed" by the Cetra and her original body's cells being harvested by ShinRA, she's still alive. The Sephiroth that kills Aerith is actually her
False: Jenova is an ethereal entity and can shape herself at will.
@@nathanalexandre9043 You sound lame.
ah yes. the fight that absolutely proves "do not always go with the speed character."
I mean, there's another one he'll be doing soon enough that spells it out more explicitly (and that he can't possibly talk through all of it in the post-fight analysis, like in this one)
R u a furry? Then your opinion doesn't matter
"From Satan!"
Sephiroth: *laughs in God*
The fact that Sephiroth is voiced by a guy from NSYNC astounds me
Well in Kingdom Hearts he was anyway. But he did a surprisingly good job of it!
Thank god in Kingdom Hearts 2 and others, George Newbern debuts as Sephiroth and he is perfect.
Wait what
@@theduckgoesmoo In Kingdom Hearts, he was voiced by Lance Bass.
Aerith was voiced by Mandy Moore too
19:41 this analysis is wrong Yamato was never able to cut trough dante's sword because they are equal in power and didnt cut through the rocket launcher because vergil is weakend and has only difficulty when he clashes with something with demonic power thats at the same or higher level when he was cut in half vergil was exhausted from his fight with dante. Sepiroth can only make illusions when his body is directly in contact with the lifestream & can only use supernova in his ultimate form and he must be equiped with the black materia to do so
He had the black materia for like a 3rd of the game, so I don't blame them for giving him that regardless of their budget, not affording a model for his final form.
dmc5 vergil probably would've taken this if the db had taken place after its release, it gives vergil a lot more like making portals and the huge buff he got from the fruit and sdt, along with the doppelganger technique and scaling to dante who is arguably universal or even low multi by the end of dmc5
You never played ff7r have you?
@@Killer_Kris7 not since it came out 😪
@@AfrothePuffs have you seen what he could do?
@@Killer_Kris7 all i remember is that at the end he sends cloud to that little space in the last part of ff7 vanilla
@@AfrothePuffs oml...
A few little fun facts about FFVII. It’s the first mainline Final Fantasy to get an extended universe complete with prequels, midquels, sequels, movie exclusive sequel and anime. The only other game that has gotten the movie treatment so far is Final Fantasy XV, though V does have a spinoff anime and IX currently has a show in development. Also while the Final Fantasy games are supposed to be different universes and unconnected an official Final Fantasy Encyclopedia (I think it was the one for X-2) states VII takes place on another planet centuries after X-2 when the descendants of a Al Bhed child named Shinra founded the Shinra Electric Company.
Incorrect. 5 had a spinoff anime.
@@BJGvideos Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me!
@@calebgoodman2076 To be fair it only had one character in common and he was a ghost
I just noticed that you have yet to react to the "Ratchet & Clank VS Jak & Daxter" Death Battle; did you miss it? It's one of my personal favourites, so I hope you check it out.
Yeah sadly he is not gone react to that DeathBattle , since he is planing to play the Ratchet and Clank games in the future sow he is gone try to avoid spoilers for those games, i mean there arent that many spoilers for Ratchet and Clank compare to Jak and Daxter but what can you do.
A stab from the buster sword would've cut Sephiroth in half. That's why in the original FF7 game he was stabbed vertically, not horizontally like in the Crisis Core game.
Screwattack: Pretends to know everything about Sephiroth
Also Screwattack: Completely ignores the fact that Sephiroth is left-handed during the battle.
They said he was ambidextrous
@@rodrickgoldberg2324 They would be wrong.
@@NikkiTaLance I write with my left hand but I use my right hand for many things.
I wish they made him a lefty here, too. Technically, he is ambidextrous and has used his right hand in cuts scenes before, but he's one of media's most famous lefties.
And with that, Season 4 comes to a close. Now its time for one of my favourite seasons in the show's history, as Season 5 is when I got invested in the Versus Battle community, so I have a soft spot for it
ANYWAY, time for some trivia regarding this fight (pulled from Death Battle Wiki)!
1. Probably most importantly of all, this is the LAST episode to use the original Death Battle theme, "Invader" composed by Bryan Kei Mantia & Peter Joseph Scaturroantia. From Season 5 onwards, starting with the season premiere Batman vs Black Panther, the theme used is "Wiz and Boomstick" composed by Brandon Yates
2. This is the first Villain vs Villain themed finale, with the next one being Thanos vs Darkseid next season
3. This is the 11th Villain vs Villain fight in general (after Akuma VS Shang Tsung, Goomba VS Koopa, Eggman VS Wily, Shao Kahn VS M. Bison, Fulgore VS Sektor, Darth Vader VS Doctor Doom, Bowser VS Ganon, Joker VS Sweet Tooth, Venom VS Bane, and Shredder VS Silver Samurai)
4. With a fight runtime of 2 minutes 57 seconds, this is the SHORTEST finale fight
5. During his battle with Sephiroth's illusion clones, Vergil utilized one of Chun-Li's super moves, Hoyokusen, to dispatch one of them.
6. Like in Link VS Cloud (2012) and Yang VS Tifa, in-game bars from Final Fantasy VII were used toward the end of the fight. Unique to this episode was Vergil's health being shown along with his Devil Trigger gauge.
7. If you noticed, Vergil's heath was set to max during the Supernova cutscene which shows his insane healing factor
And for the connections between the combatants:
The connections between Sephiroth and Vergil are that they are both silver-haired swordsmen from video games and they are both final bosses and main antagonists of said games. In addition, they are the sons of powerful beings (Jenova and Sparda respectively) and seek to obtain their power. Sephiroth also has an angel motif to him, often referred to as the One-Winged Angel, while Vergil is half-demon, creating an Angel/Devil contrast between the two. Both have an integral connection to their games' protagonists (Sephiroth was initially assumed to be Cloud's old partner and is responsible for the destruction of Nibelheim, whereas Vergil is Dante's twin brother) and both have been revived from death.
ONE MORE PIECE OF TRIVIA I FORGOT
8. Since the previous episode was Batman Beyond vs Spiderman 2099, and the next one will be Batman vs Black Panther. This makes it the SECOND smallest gap between essentially the same character coming back (yes yes I know Terry and Bruce aren't exactly the same character, but its close enough)
what's first you might ask? Leonardo fighting Zitz right after the Ninja Turtle Battle Royale
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 Bruce was still in that fight and got his own analysis screen so he counts
There's also Credo, the One Winged Angel and the Sephirothic Fruit item in DMC4 so yeah.
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 interesting enough is that Sephiroth’s JP voice actor is Toshiyuki Morikawa who is also Dante in Devil May Cry. Which makes this episode Dante vs Vergil again.
I'm sad they changed the Death Battle theme and Style, I liked the old ones better imo
Well, that Vergil here is not on his full potential yet. In DMC 5 where he unlocked the power he yearned for.
Yes this was one of my favourite Death Battles and glad you got to it. I’m actually glad you know a bit about Final Fantasy 7 a bit before seeing this as this all may have been way confusing if not.
Also hopefully to help and answer why you seem confused on why the healing factor of Virgil didn’t work was because there was a point where it was mentioned that his healing factor can be over clocked or overdone and not work I believe. Basically if he takes way too much damage to soon his healing factor won’t be able to keep up or work fast enough to save him.
As for Sephiroth’s cut healing really fast it is due to the magic materia “Cure” or most likely the higher form Curaga, as in the game each spell or magic of materia can level up and be stronger or just better, including healing spells. When you cast Cure magic in game it always instantly heals you with no delay, although you need to cast it, and in the original game that was no big deal, but in remake there is a cast animation that can be interrupted. Regen magic is healing over time but it is possible to still die if an attack hits hard enough and your health is low.
Also funny you mention what if Sephiroth dual wield, as in “Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children” Cloud does at one point dual wield with swords that are still rather large. And in the original game yes there is one moment when Sephiroth is on your team, but you don’t control him, he just kind of does his own thing and you basically watch. Although there are side games like Final Fantasy Dissidia series where you can play as Sephiroth, Cloud and other Final Fantasy heroes and villains in a fighting game sense.
Random FF7 fact of the day, Cloud and Sephiroth are both based on real samurais in history who were both considered great warriors who fought. One day they did have a battle against each other and the one who won was said to have a used a sword that was considered too large or at least not commonly used in one on one fights. There is a real statue of those samurai fighting each other, and I believe at one point figures of Cloud and Sephiroth fighting each other posed in similar poses of that samurai statue.
These are also fun to watch when you know the characters and hey you can even learn new stuff of certain characters. Keep up the great videos and everyone who sees this hope you take care, be safe and have a great day/night.
If you think about it: Adam has Vergils design and fighting style, while Cinder has Vergils overall motivation and insecurities from their origins (except for the whole “son of the legendary demon”…).
Sephiroth actually lost against Vergil in One Minute Melee
Information about the Track used in the fight:
The name of the track used in the fight is "One-Winged Devil" composed by Therewolf Media.
The name comes from a combination of Sephiroth being called the "One-Winged Angel" and Vergil coming from the "Devil May Cry" games
It is a dark and sombre track that is primarily rock with hints of orchestra and piano. The rock is likely associated with Vergil due to the metal nature of Devil May Cry's soundtracks while the more sombre, orchestral parts evoke Sephiroth's theme from Final Fantasy VII (which also happens to be called "One-Winged Angel").
The cover art for the track shows 4 of Vergil's summoned swords going through Sephiroth's single wing
Wish this fight and OST came out after DMC 5 and FFVII Remake. Imagine hearing One Winged Angel and Bury the Light mix together.
@@Silent_Fool true, that would be insane. Also people say Vergil would probably win if this did take place post DMC5
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 they forget of ff7r
2 Fun Facts:
Number 1: Sephiroth was played by George Newbern since Kingdom Hearts 2, who is also Superman since Justice League/Unlimited. In FFVII Remake, he is played by Tyler Hoechlin who is also Superman in CW’s Arrowverse.
Number 2: Sephiroth’s Japanese voice actor is Toshiyuki Morikawa who is also Dante from DMC. Which means this fight is basically Dante vs Vergil again.
It would be interesting for Deathbattle to revisit this fight since both characters have had substantial upgrades in latter games (after this battle was made).
Sin Devil Trigger Virgil vs. Multiversal Sephiroth would be interesting. They might as well wait for the 3rd part of the new FF7 series to drop, though, so we can see what else Sephi can do.
This battle is a good example of how off some of DB's research can be cause of how they take EVERY version of a character and mash them together regardless of canon
There are multiple versions of Sephiroth and the ONLY ones that have an infinite supply of mana and can cast Supernova are Dissidia and Safer Sephiroth
The former not actually being canon and the latter being a transformation he obtains at the very end of FFVII and can't reach normally
Logically, this would leave us with Sephiroth before he dropped into the lifestream and Advent Children Sephiroth who was only at 1/3 power
If you think that Vergil was op, wait till you see his abilities at Devil May Cry 5. As his theme song at Devil May Cry 5 says, he is the storm that it's approaching.
Don’t you mean Special Edition? That wasn’t in the original game.
Oh yeah right. My bad
Even though his more buffed and evolved Devil Trigger (yes that form is called Devil Trigger in the main game, they only renamed it to please Vergil fans) is where he gets the new abilities, all thanks the Fruit, his time as V and you know who, Nero's original Devil Bringer and all of its Items, the Aegis Shield is where his ability to become protected in the Sphere he has during his strongest ability came from as Nero was able to use this Item for his defensive abilities but with his reawakened power deep within, he can do this without that Item and this time double it.
Sephiroth's true parents are Lucretzia Crescent and Dr. Hojo
AWESOME! Been waiting for this one.
19:20 though never dismantled like that..
4:56 "What is that?" A version of Jenova.
Sephiroth -is- *was* voiced by the Bassist from NSYNC *in Kingdom Hearts.* But that was almost a correct fact, Death Battle. You get a point.
i do wanna see another battle with the Updated characters from DMC V
If you pause the video you're watching so that you can say something without missing out on the information in the video, _we won't mind._ We'll actually prefer if you do that as opposed to talking over the video and then missing what they said.
After this it’s now season 5! It’s a pretty good season.
Edit: Sometime I’d also like to see you do like a top ten favourite episodes, that would be cool.
Next is Naruto vs ichago
@@theduckgoesmoo oh yeah because it wasn’t in the playlist, but it’s probably the best sprite fight in season 4.
@@theamazingg3773 Heck yeah it is!
Sephiroth can cut reality in half. See his reveal in Super Smash Bros.
Honestly theres only one complaint i have about the death battle. Sephiroth using the masamune mostly in his right hand, especially in the beginning
Sephiroth has one of the best boss music.
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36 W 26 L (1 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 5
Me: 3 W 6 L Yes
One of. There are other pieces I'd put over it. Top 10-15 for sure though.
Just go with who is more popular and you’ll usually be right.
Whoops! You unfortunately talked over the critical piece of information that led to Vergil's defeat. Well, and you didn't realize the insane implications of having endless magic. That one is a large bit more fair, though, since most reactors also didn't; methinks they intentionally threw it out and ran right past it so that the winner wouldn't be laughably obvious.
I hope you like Naruto vs. Ichigo. By far the best Sprite Animation up to this point, and the animation even features forms that never made it into an official media minus the original manga, making that episode the first widespread look at a certain transformation that wasn't in black and white.
In terms of pure research and scale and even requests, I feel like Naruto vs. Ichigo was the real season finale. They likely didn't schedule it as such so that there wouldn't be so much pressure to keep it in on the chance that research proved to monumental a task. Also, I can see them not wanting to end two seasons in a row with Sprite Animations. Even if they're as good or often better than the 3D stuff, a lot of viewers get it stuck in their heads that 3D is automatically better than 2D.
This death battle may have aged poorly lol
extremely poorly. also DMC Peak of Combat statements make this fight a complete shit stomp for Vergil.
This dearh battle came out before the ff7 remake so that footage you saw was crisis core a game where you play as zack
I think the outcome of this Death Battle is fairly accurate. Although, i think the outcome could also have been quite different... Alot of Devil May Cry is actually hard to scale properly, as the lore, the gameplay, and the cutscenes potray various different levels of power (which is not necessarily inconsistent, but just a bit difficult to figure out how to scale properly, especially with how some of Vergil's strongest moves would actually scale when compared to some of his more cinematic feats). Additionally, after the events of Devil May Cry 5 (which was released a couple of years after this and depicts a Vergil who has become many times more powerful than he was before), im definetley more leaning towards that Vergil could have won that battle as well.
If they include DMC 5 Vergil, then it would be the same with Remake Sephiroth. Not saying anything about FFVII Remake because spoilers.
Remake sephiroth would destroy vergil much easier.
Remake Sephiroth is much faster and possibly even stronger than his previous version and Ben without sapher form he demonstrated some crazy feats of power dmc 5 Vergil would get crushed not to mention power hardly even matters since the deciding factor of the fight was illusions something Vergil is just suspectable to
@@user-pb2nb5nk6s exactly, they seem to ignore that sephiroth absorbed the meteor magic materia power in the remake casually and absorb we d all Whispers of fate that are connected to all time and space. Confirmed
@@melvingenao550 ya remake Sephiroth is terrifying compared to the old one who was kind of there until sapher form but in the remake he already had a power boost from the meteor which I don't suppose will just disappear because plot
I think Vergil losing because of an illusion doesn't make much sense since in the third game he said that Lady's father's illusions didn't work on him.
I'm pretty sure by "illusions" he meant he knew Arkham was planning to betray him and saw through his facade, I don't remember him using any illusionary attacks in DMC3 at all
that not Aerith that Lucrecia Crescent Sepirhroth Birth Mother and Vincent's love Interest
I can already hear the Bury the Light memers but I dont see them
If only they waited till dmc5 came out when Vergil was way stronger than before
Or they could have also waited till the Remake was out since at least that was announced years prior to DMC5's reveal
The song that played for this fight is called "One-Winged Devil"
This got me thinking, who would Nero fight?
Hes another DMC protag character like Dante and Vergil but his story is a bit of a spoiler
2B maybe? Or a Kingdom Hearts character like Riku or Terra perhaps.
Yang because she has gone through the same development Nero did with many differences and they both have anger and states feuled by it, DMC4 DT Nero moreso because glowing red eyes and a flame colored aura.
Joker could work potentially. If you mainly use DMC 4 Nero
Fun fact: As powerful as Supernova is, it can't kill unless you're at 1 HP, since it deals a fixed 7/8ths of the target's current HP. So even if Vergil hadn't cut through to his own dimension, he still would have survived. Either way though, it would have left him in critical condition, leaving enough room for one strike to finish him off.
The Japanese supernova actually kills you lol. As well as dissidia version
🎶 SEPHIROTH 🎶
Actually, it‘ s
*🎶🔥SEPHIROTH!!!!!!!🔥🎶*
Calling it now-
Sephiroth stomps.
That lad is on a whole different level.
in this old battle. if they did a rematch Vergil would destroy Sephiroth
@@maeckknox6535 nope, he would still win.
We really have no idea how it would go now. Current Vergil is massively stronger but we don’t know by how much
Ocean Dragoon DMC character got calculate to be island level trough a debrunk.
@@maeckknox6535 you forgot remake exists
Course with Devil May Cry 5 giving Virgil a big power boast (I think), lots of people are now convinced that this would go the other way around.
Sephiroth still wins as he's been amped in remake as well.
@@melvingenao550 not to the extent of vergil and tbh even when this was released there where comics out there (death battle even showed them) that vergil destroyed multiple multiverses in
@@RandomName12345 1: Remake has given Sephiroth time travel abilities
2: When did Vergil destroy any "omniverses"?
@@kaihedgie1747 yea sorry about that I meant to say multiverse I have no clue what I was taking about
Time travel is that it? I assumed he already had that ability
@@RandomName12345 Vergil hasn't destroyed any universe, let alone a multiverse
Sephiroth gained the ability after hijacking the Whispers from the Lifestream and has actively altered events from the past.
He's also gained his Dissidia moveset and the ability to cast Meteor without the need for Black Matera
The amount of effort & time that goes into the animation for these battles are insane. They make it look so close to the actual game designs you would think the actual companies made it.
Usually, they actually do use assets and sprites/models directly from the characters' games of origin (this battle uses Sephiroth's Dissidia PSP model, and Vergil's DMC4 Special Edition model).
@@HeadBodyMasterPersonal Oh that's really cool.
Thats what I was thinking
You're doing Naruto vs Ichigo next? How come?
3:59 "This must be the remaster." Uh, no, it's not. That's Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, a prequel that takes place seven years before the game. You can tell by the graphics.
Because I was told to skip it but I don't plan on reacting to those shows
"This must be the remaster" dude, the remake wasn't even out yet. Hell, this was 2017 and the remake came out just last year.
Oh and look at that, the faster character still lost. Because that's not all that matters.
Also, they mentioned how Vergil's healing factor can be overtaxed, and has been down by someone far weaker than Sephiroth.
Yeah... Sephiroth didn't even need his final form.
That's gotta hurt the most for Vergil.
yeah this was real outdated also
Goodluck to sephiroth fighting vergil in SDT spamming 50 judgement cuts
You really think I need it
@@edwardlimpin5685 I see DMC 5 fans saying stuff like this constantly, but you never explain *why* vergil is more impressive now. Has his durability gotten better? Is he faster? Is his physical strength better? Any more hax?
@@SeraphSeph you still here ?
@@vaxbratee9526 no, I'm dead now.
2:24 That is not Aerith. That is Lucrecia Crescent, Sephiroth’s birth mother. That cutscene was from the game Dirge of Cerberus, and was a flashback of when she was pregnant and suffered from visions of the future.
5:08 Jenova isn’t his mom.
Aw this vid was before DMC5 wasn’t it
Some of that footage you thought was from a remaster is actually from a prequel game on PSP called Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core where you play as Zack.
That quickdraw swordsman cut a BB out of the air. It is on youtube, you shout watch the video.
That vergil's power is outdated because video is probably old but in dmc5 vergil got stronger
There is a really funny thing about the recap that makes this fight kiiiinda outdated after DMC5 came out(still agree with Sephiroth winning though), but A.) It came out after this fight, so I won’t hold it against them, and B.) It’s spoilers, so if you’re gonna play the DMC games, I won’t say anything.
Also obligatory music post, this one is called “One Winged Devil” by Therewolf Media.
Link: th-cam.com/video/5e2IXqibVJg/w-d-xo.html
Fun fact, the guy playing Vergil in this is Marc "GanXingba" Soskin and he also voices Tien in DBZA.
Yeah, I knew I recognized that voice from somewhere. It took me while to put it together.
Yeah, you missed some critical information in this one, like when they mentioned that Vergil’s regeneration can be overtaxed. It happens sometimes, that’s why when reacting you have to practice active listening to hear while you talk.
I’m a massive Devil May Cry fan, and I really dislike Final Fantasy, but I do agree with the end result of this fight (even if I think some of their details and calculations were straight up wrong), and the actual fight itself was really really awesome. You’re right in that this one has a lot of controversy around it, but that’s par for the course whenever the fighters are so ludicrously powerful. I will say though, this came out a few years before Devil May Cry 5 was released, and if they redid the battle with the changes from DMC5 I think it would absolutely go the other way.
One detail I do question in this battle is that in the final analysis they talk about Vergil being weak to mind control and illusion abilities (mind control yes, though it was essentially Satan who did that so jury is out on how “weak” he is to it, but I’d say there’s never been a time when he succumbed to illusions), but in his character details they specifically called out how he was *strong* against illusions and broke free from them. I just find that to be weirdly inconsistent.
They also massively wanked his overall power though since they said DMC3 Vergil scales to DMC4 Dante (saying he scales to Dante and Dante blocked the saviors punch)
@@anidiot192 I mean, he doesn't scale great that way, they were pretty even in DMC3, hard to imagine he was DMC4 Dante levels of strong, nowadays though he'd stomp in this fight, but this is a bit older.
@@Mwright4444 exactly! Vergil scaled to DMC1 dante at *best* at the time of this Death Battle.
@@anidiot192 Definitely at most, any higher is definitely an exaggeration.
@@anidiot192Of course it’s changed now, but a lot of people still believe that Sephiroth would still win, albeit with more difficulty, with all he got in Remake and Rebirth
One thing I disliked about this Death Battle was showing how Sephiroth fought. He’s left handed, and really it dramatically changes combat fighting with a katana that size with his right. Other than that, it was an excellent DB.
They went with the hypothesis that Sephiroth is ambidextrous (Both handed), noted it at 2:41
@@danm2068 Even if that’s true, most depictions of him in official media is left handed. I really haven’t seen him use his sword with his right hand except here. Why wouldn’t you use your dominant hand in battle? I kind of feel it’s an important detail in a battle to the death.
@@acgearsandarms1343 I was concerned about it as well. A quick googling shows that while he uses his left hand in most scenes, he does occasionally use his right. On the FFWiki's gallery there are four pics of him with sword in the right hand.
In particular, KH1 has the sword in his right hand, while KH2 has it in his left.
@@Bardic_Knowledge Plus let's remember, his most famous attack took both hands.
If you like speed, then you'll lose your mind at the Sonic vs. Flash battle.
9:32
Nah, it's about the same. They were both told to be monotone
George Newbern and Toshiyuki Morikawa are the true goats of Sephiroth.
@@Silent_Fool mhm
All the cut scenes from the Sephiroth background are from Kingdom Hearts, Crisis Core: FF7, and Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children a movie that came out in the early 2000's. The Remake did not come out till 2020. if it did Sephiroth would be even stronger. But that is a story for another time.
*SPOILERS FOR FFVII REMAKE*
It’s not a remastered. It’s what many people thought, a secret sequel to OG FFVII. Still we wait for the remake sequels to see how it plays out.
Your getting closer to the 100th episode of Death Battle were Mario and Sonic have a rematch and you will have to see who wins this round.
I said it before and I’ll say it again,in the future death battles that you are going to watch are going to have characters that are waayyy to overpowered that are going to have a very difficult time to decide on who’s winning,and you are going to be crazy shocked on how some of those O.P characters are going to make earlier death battle characters look weak.
When are you going to watch Tomb Raider vs Uncharted?
Once I play uncharted I think
Vergil should have won. In the manga when he was a kid he was maimed and torn apart that’s when his power awakened and killed them all to hell
Vergil speed blitzes Sephiroth in his base form. In the Devil May Cry mobile game, there is an enemy called the ripper. In their description, it specifically states that they can move so fast, they can cover every inch of the demon world in a day. Capcom confirms that the enemies that you fight in the Devil May Cry mobile game are canon to Devil May Cry lore wise. They do exist in the demon world. The demon world is made up of several hells each having its own space time continuums, Devil May Cry 2 & 5 confirms that. Even if you don't agree that each of the space time continuums are infinite in size, the ripper would still need to fly over to get to the next space time continuums before proceeding. So if the ripper can cover ALL THAT AREA IN A DAY, the ripper would have to have immeasurable speed. Immeasurable speed is when you move so fast that you violate the speed equation and you can move through time with pure speed alone & Dante and Vergil can kill them no problem. And the ripper isn't even the fastest demon in the devil may cry verse cause they didn't even self actualize speed into their power. The Fury in Devil May Cry 5 did self actualize speed by wanting to be the fastest so that means they should scale above the ripper in speed and Dante & Vergil can kill them no problem. Sephiroth will LITERALLY be nothing but a statue to Vergil.
Peak of Combat is non-canon. Even if it were, cite your source
Or are you assuming Sephiroth will just be a statue and typed this before having even looked at the Remake
The enemies in Peak of Combat are canon to Devil May Cry's lore. The story creators and developers of Devil May Cry oversaw the creation of the mobile game. I've seen Final Fantasy power scalers calculate Remake Sephiroth at around three hundred trillion times faster than light but that is still finite speed compared to Vergil's.
@@RedDusk369 Still not citing your source, it seems.
So you've only read what other people said, but you've neither played nor looked at anything yourself.
Considering Vergil consistently gets tagged by Nero, someone who doesn't have any Trick techniques, that's a pretty silly thing to brag about
No, dude. First of all. Don't take that fight out of context. This was right after Dante & Vergil were battling each other in a fight to the death and were wearing themselves down so Vergil wasn't even at his full strength plus Vergil didn't want to fight Nero as he specifically says during the fight, "This has nothing to do with you. Stand down." Even then Nero would not be far behind Dante and Vergil in speed since he can fight the Furies too. If he didn't then there would not be a buster animation for the fury. Also Nero's Devil Bringer gives him the ability to turn to revert a person who has a demon form back to their human form. He does it to Credo in Devil May Cry 4 and you see him do it to both Dante and Vergil at the end of Devil May Cry 5.
So look who's talking on not played or looked at anything himself. I should be asking you to cite your sources
Also Nero can absorb demonic energy with his new devil bringer and was feeding off of Vergil's energy during the fight so....
Commenting before I watch the full reaction, but I don't blame you for saving Naruto vs Ichigo. A lot of folks thought Vergil vs Sephiroth was a weird choice to end season 4, and that the other one was a much better rivalry to end the season.
Well that works well then!
Too bad this was made before devil may cry 5
Yeah because his time as V and the big bad (not saying who to keep it a secret for Kyle) and the Fruit.
It’s also made before FFVII Remake as well.
This battle was made before DMC 5 and FF7 remake, but the end result is the same even with the update. Sephiroth is just that more powerful and Vergil still can't beat Dante no matter what he does.
"this must be the remastered" ... you know a ps4 is capable of more then that XD
I once already mentioned I think that ff vii is a big storyline covered by many different games - but the one point in the timeline - were sephi comes back to the shinra villa in nibelheim is shown in most of the games - sadly often contradicting itself from one game to the next in some detailshere and there...
but most of these scene are from the psp-game before crisis were you play as zack up until the point in the story were he dies
and some others are form the movie advent childen (thts still smth for you to react to ;))
mfg
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Love how he talked over (and thus likely missed) them mentioning that Vergil IS faster than Sephiroth in the post-fight analysis, showing that better speed DOESN'T necessarily mean an automatic win.
Though, that'll be made more explicit soon enough, I suppose...
Yeah, that "speed kills" idea that he's been hedging all his bets on isn't a sure thing, in fact I think the only reason speed's been so relevant in the Death Battles he's seen is because in those battles, the two characters are often pretty even otherwise and speed wound up being the determining factor. But in cases like this, where your opponent beats you in both power and technique, speed is no longer such a huge advantage because your enemy will be able to compensate.
At this point Im so used to him saying "Didnt know that" at the end of these death battles when they explain their logic about who won. Half the time Ive known about these feats before it was even mentioned. So I gotta ask, what the hell did he watch/play growing up? Sitcoms? Board games? I had a sitcom phase growing up so Im not judging him for it. Just curious.
Nothing, he grew up watching only history channels and Nature Documentaries, he barely knows any pop culture icons and series like Star Wars or Cinderella
What happened to his badass end slash??
Used it on the illusions
oh boy is the next one going to be interesting... won't say who, but one character pretty much gets their strength and especially speed nerfed by 1000s of times what it should be, they basically have one of the characters keep their speed stat from relatively early in the series and don't even think that their base form improved at all, also got a lot of the power multipliers wrong.
Death Battle can be fun but their research and calculations can be really sloppy, even with some of the fights that I agree with like the outcome of the Samus Vs Boba Fett or Android 18 vs Captain marvel fight, it's still obvious they didn't do proper research on them and nerfed them a ton.
Did you order a demon original or extra crispy?
Как тот кто знает лор и силы DMC могу сказать, что результат не верен.
Ямато разрезает всё и Вергилий игонорирует то, что мир демонов сводит людей с ума. Даже Мундус не смог полноценно его подчинить, хотя у него был ослабленный Верг.
keep up the good work i love the content. video suggestion react to living with Chief
Thank you for watching them!
@@theduckgoesmoo thank you
Ah, this battle. My reaction to it was...weird. See, ever since I started doing reactions, I had been gunning for Sephiroth to fight Kefka, the main villain from the previous game. It's one of the most hotly debated same-series matchups ever, and would be absolutely glorious. So when the prior episode showed us that awesome crawl with Sephiroth's name and the flames and all that, I was so hyped and then "Virgil" and I shouted noooooo!
Now. I pride myself on only showing my genuine reactions. I have never faked a reaction in my life. Even when I have to reenact something due to computer problems, I try to restage it as close to the original as possible. So when you see me swaying around and singing about my disappointment, that's 100% me.
So for this battle I figured if they weren't gonna bring Kefka to Death Battle, I would. I uh...kinda slapped together a little cosplay for the occasion and did some of his iconic makeup. I think it's the first time I did a skit for a reaction. I should probably do more.
Still waiting on them to have a FF character from literally any other game too. I know people want Lightning vs Shulk, and I honestly think Firion would have been a better opponent for Link than Cloud could ever be.
Always keep things genuine!
As much as i adore Vergil, i knew Sephiroth had the upper hand, but one thing i noticed is Vergil, even corrupted, never fights dirty. The only time i've seen anything close to the magic he possesses is as Urizen, being primarily the demon half, which is also capable of seeing through illusions easily, as dante was fooled by the Qliphoth's power. He can also will Yamato to cut through various materials at will, which is why it doesn't cut the fabric of space-time every single swing (probably edge alignment and some other magical ability).
However, the supernova ability Sephiroth commands is blatantly overwhelming. I had initially thought that ability would be locked to him, but the other games showed otherwise. The other techniques Sephiroth has at his disposal could potentially be surpassed with his Devil May Cry 5 iteration.
Had vergil gauged Sephiroth was a legitimate magical threat, his tactics probably would have shifted as a result. I also hypothesize that Vergil willingly became Mundus's henchman to learn the secret about the Qliphoth, like an indentured servitude sort of thing.
Well Mundus was at Universe level power, and we can assume as Urizen got his powers the same way he's at that level, at the very least, that with some prep time I feel Vergil would take a W.
Who is truly the “One-Winged Devil?”
Has he reacted to Wolverine vs Raiden
Nope
The results of this Death Battle is part of the reason why Tifa vs Yang makes no sense at all. FF7 characters are just on a whole 'nother power scale to RWBY characters.
well, kind of. the actual validity of these feats has been debated back and forth ever since vs debates started being a thing on the internet. the supernova has all kinds of technicalities and contextual weirdness. Heck, it's a major plot point that he's after the strongest black magic spell in the world because he needs it to destroy the planet. scaling for ff7 is just weird.
@@danielwilson8604 Yeah. That's why I've never been a fan of FF characters in VS Battles. Because the weird power scaling, it's easy to argue Sephiroth gets smashed by Vergil (especially after DMC5), or you could argue Vergil gets stomped.
@@redraven123 the speed calcs they give to final fantasy people are also confusing as all heck. neither bahamut nor zack were going as fast as they could in their fight, and bahamut is clearly capable of outspeeding him if he tries. also, cloud isn't actually zack and never faced that bahamut....
Sephiroth is amazing but he's no where near Final Fantasy's best villain, Emet Selch from Final Fantasy XIV
It's pretty damn hard to top Emet-Selch as it is
What everyone seems to miss is the simple fact that Sephiroth was not trying, For anyone asking for proof, go watch The Princess Bride and remember that Sephiroth is actually left-handed.
I love devil's may cry series handsome
This fight needs an update because of Devil May Cry 5
Before watching this video, just gonna say, knowing Duck's preferences
I bet he is going to *love* Vergil. lol
Yes, they did mention that Vergil's healing does have a limit and if you do enough damage in a short amount of time, it cannot keep up. Though Vergil is still alive in canon so this was an old video as he appears now in Devil May Cry 5.
Of this is not canon since death battle is for entertainment purposes only, and dmc fanbois are but hurt by this and calling db is bias.
@@-0SafEr_esPHIRitOs_sancTHus0- DB is definitely biased cause they completely ignored DMC Peak of Combat which has statements directly confirming that human souls in DMC have 9D existence, and Dante and Vergil can both not only destroy, but also absorb human souls meaning they're also 9D since to afffect something of such a high existence you need to exist on the same plane as it. Oh and DMC Peak of Combat is canon.
Vergil ROFL stomps Sephiroth. This was easily their worst Death Battle.
@@-0SafEr_esPHIRitOs_sancTHus0- there have been many instances were DB is wrong and i dont have to be a Fan To know that.
An older fight that I don’t think you’ve seen that’s still really good is Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher
That one is being skipped due to spoilers
yeah Devil May Cry games are awesome
It will be cool to see you start playing some PC stuff, then if I ever have a day off on your games with viewers days I can try to join you too. Speaking of gifted games, did you ever redeem that code for Hellblade that I sent you? I just want to make sure that it ended up on your Steam account. That game is amazing, even if it's not very long (average completion time for a blind playthrough is 12-16 hours). While I'd love to see you stream it and see you process it all, I just hope you get to experience it, even if just on your own time.
Oh, and if you want to see a nice, long fight with Sephiroth and Cloud, watch their fight from Advent Children (the movie that takes place years after the game). It's where the clip of Sephiroth being cratered into the pipe by Cloud comes from and the whole fight is like 8 minutes long, so you could even do a reaction to it some time.