Sim Rate - You can see the current sim rate when hovering over the flow increase / decrease sim rate buttons Differences between PC / Xbox Essentials - No Enable Head Tracking camera button on Xbox (as it would be superfluous) - No ability to be able to export your settings (as no access to file system on XBox) ...and I think that's it...
Thanks Dan: having the Sim rate + & - on the front wheel would be great for this. Pro version has a few added things, but you're not missing too much ;)
Well, after dowloading Flow Essentials for Xbox (Series X in my case), and having a few initial setup frustrations, now have things fully dialed in and running smoothly. This is a BRILLIANT addition for console users! 🤗 I think the biggest challenge, given access to so many options, is where to put these various things so you can find them quickly. A little trial and error and I now have a working plan. The camera views are outstanding and since I use a mouse, easy to access. One (unexpected) added benefit is that I was able to free up a few bindings on my my V1 Flightstick and V1F yoke by assigning them on a Flow wheel. For new users, don't get tweaked if you see that "!" in the settings (gear) icon when Flow is active. That's simply an ADVISORY that the most current version of MSFS (AAU2?) is one version ahead of what Flow was initially released at. Things still work fine and I'm sure Flow will release an update soon to put Flow Essentials at "par" with the latest MSFS update. //42 has a great channel on Discord and seem to monitor any concerns daily. Thanks for yet another brilliant video, James...and happy flying to all! 👍
I’d agree. I ended up buying it out of curiosity. I like the name tags change. Other than that I don’t really see the point. I have what I need set to buttons on my HOTAS and mouse. I don’t think I used it once in over 10 flights, it is also really limited in terms of the the widgets you can add. I would have liked a button to turn on/off taxi lines, can’t do it. I dare say that Flow Pro is a ‘game changer’ but this essentials version is certainly not
I'm a bit worried now... When I portal across the Atlantic... It's actually taxiing me through the ocean 🤔 Good job that MS water depth is never more than few inches 😂
I’m new to MSFS. I get confused when you are using a console( XBox X) but also using a mouse to “right/left click” on your screen. Do you have a mouse attached to your console?
I bought a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse combo for about $30 USD to attach to my Xbox Series X, and it's made a HUGE difference for me. It was worth it just for the much easier way to adjust trim (7 and 1 on the numeric keypad) compared to the clumsy combination on the Xbox controller.
So, it's been discovered that using Flow (or maybe having it just installed) is killing performance on Xbox. I'm having CTDs nearly everytime I use the Sim, but on the same token, Flow is phenomenal tool, in my opinion, the positives outweigh the negatives. I'll have to keep working to try and find ways to keep Flow and alleviate the issues.
I still haven't done thorough testing with Flow on the Xbox, as I mainly use my PC to fly in MSFS. You are correct: the positives of having and using Flow, far out way the negatives.
So presumably you've had to buy twice then, once a pro PC version and this Xbox version? I checked earlier, and I have the Xbox version and then went to PC and got the same version from the marketplace which works and brings over my settings. So it's a great deal for getting both versions. Really is a worthwhile investment to bring some things like the custom name tags and portal to Xbox, which were separate mods before and purely PC exclusive. I like the settings for doors and having autopilots at my fingertips.
Is it possible to scroll through Flow icons without using a mouse? I would like to scroll using the hat switch of my VelocityOne Flightstick and press the trigger button to select a funcion. I know I can assign the wheel to a button but can I scroll through the icons ?
@@Huddison understood Thank you James. I'm about to purchase it as it improves MSFS UI. It's a very clever tool. When I'm flying with Xbox I use to do more relaxed flights comfortably laid on my TV room couch. :) So, my ideal scenario is to avoid using a mouse as it needs a good flat surface to work with. In my couch it would be much easir to have just the flightstick with it's good amount of buttons and levers, my charts, Ipad, some peanuts and a drink. It seems Flow comes very handy on the whole setup!
@@Huddison I'll pass. MSFS 2024 finally has full replay implementation built in to the program. Took them long enough! I'm really looking forward to this feature.
There are no differences between the PC/Xbox versions, like you said, Essentials to Essentials is identical. Pro however there technically is no "difference", as Pro is only available on PC due to much more complex integration.
Hi Huddison. It’s been 5 months and I still don’t see Flow in my Xbox series X. I’m in the USA. Probably they only released it for Xbox in Europe. It’s a pity.
This flow essential always shuts down my plane or automatically restarts the game ever since I installed it I've been having problems with the game. I uninstalled it and the game works now. I don't know what the problem is. This is on Xbox series S. I like it but now I say it was a waste of money try off and on using it still does the same .
@@Huddison it's always on the A320&A321&737Max those 3 the 737Max also doesn't Follow the route plan when I hit auto plan goes directly to the set destination the hdg on the top left compass. By passing the route waypoints.
@@Huddison well I reinstalled it again the flow got a message on the settings of it saying my version of MSFS is ahead on what flow was tested on. Hmmm thought it was for MSFS 2020. Apparently not. That it won't work properly or entirely.
Got it rightaway.. but I have had 2 ctd's yesterday during a groupflight ..(something wich allmost never happens on an Xbox) and today I had another. while flying on my own.. Flow does not seem to be stable yet on Xbox.. I would hate it if I have to uninstall it, 'cause I love all the functions it brings..
@@Huddison I have flown another groupflight yesterday evening and did not get ctd's.. :) (a bit of stuttering did occeur though..) So I'm carefull optimistic I can keep Flow installed.. :)
Unfortunately the answer is "probably never" Main additional feature with Pro, is user programmable extensions. MS does not allow user created code to execute on the console. All code that executes on the console, has to be signed by MS. It's part of why any mods have to go through the marketplace and can't just be copied on to console. It's the reason for the long delays on getting WASM on the XBox. As such, there is no way of enabling this kind of extensibility on the console... It's specifically designed to stop this being possible... And so it's almost certainly never going to be possible to allow user programming, or sharing of programmable functionality without going through marketplace release.
@@Huddison can't find it, had a real good look - wanted to be able to switch things like taxi markers on and off too. I think the functionality on xbox is a bit limited, I'd hope for more widgets In the future, but what it does it does very well, vastly improves the tool bar
Sim Rate - You can see the current sim rate when hovering over the flow increase / decrease sim rate buttons
Differences between PC / Xbox Essentials
- No Enable Head Tracking camera button on Xbox (as it would be superfluous)
- No ability to be able to export your settings (as no access to file system on XBox)
...and I think that's it...
Thanks Dan: having the Sim rate + & - on the front wheel would be great for this.
Pro version has a few added things, but you're not missing too much ;)
No Otto! 😢
Well, after dowloading Flow Essentials for Xbox (Series X in my case), and having a few initial setup frustrations, now have things fully dialed in and running smoothly. This is a BRILLIANT addition for console users! 🤗
I think the biggest challenge, given access to so many options, is where to put these various things so you can find them quickly. A little trial and error and I now have a working plan. The camera views are outstanding and since I use a mouse, easy to access.
One (unexpected) added benefit is that I was able to free up a few bindings on my my V1 Flightstick and V1F yoke by assigning them on a Flow wheel.
For new users, don't get tweaked if you see that "!" in the settings (gear) icon when Flow is active. That's simply an ADVISORY that the most current version of MSFS (AAU2?) is one version ahead of what Flow was initially released at. Things still work fine and I'm sure Flow will release an update soon to put Flow Essentials at "par" with the latest MSFS update.
//42 has a great channel on Discord and seem to monitor any concerns daily. Thanks for yet another brilliant video, James...and happy flying to all! 👍
Great input; freeing up a button on your flight controller to bring up the flow interface is a must!
Ok... you've convinced me that this is a must-have for xbox and pc users. 🎉
Great game changer for console players. Thoroughly enjoy this add-on.
It's essential IMO.
Touche!
Game changer is a bit much. You can do everything in the default sim that you can in the add on.
@@forky8079 not the customizing of the nametags..(at least on Xbox) and now you can change servers from inside the cockpit etc..
I’d agree. I ended up buying it out of curiosity. I like the name tags change. Other than that I don’t really see the point.
I have what I need set to buttons on my HOTAS and mouse. I don’t think I used it once in over 10 flights, it is also really limited in terms of the the widgets you can add. I would have liked a button to turn on/off taxi lines, can’t do it.
I dare say that Flow Pro is a ‘game changer’ but this essentials version is certainly not
I see you have the dreaded cursor spinning freak out. You must be on velocity controller.
I was indeed.
Thanks for this video. Totally loving Flow on Xbox
Does it bring the sim quality down? I'm using msfs 2020 with my Honeycomb setup on xbox and I do get a lower quality simulator using it.
I've not noticed that from my initial testing.
I think you may have in inadvertently shown a way to "cheat" certain achievements. 😂
You teleported and it gave you the "Road Trip" achievement.
😁
I'm a bit worried now... When I portal across the Atlantic... It's actually taxiing me through the ocean 🤔
Good job that MS water depth is never more than few inches 😂
I’m new to MSFS. I get confused when you are using a console( XBox X) but also using a mouse to “right/left click” on your screen. Do you have a mouse attached to your console?
Yes, you are able to plug in a wired USB, or wireless mouse into the Xbox Series.
I bought a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse combo for about $30 USD to attach to my Xbox Series X, and it's made a HUGE difference for me. It was worth it just for the much easier way to adjust trim (7 and 1 on the numeric keypad) compared to the clumsy combination on the Xbox controller.
Thanks for the quick response.
So, it's been discovered that using Flow (or maybe having it just installed) is killing performance on Xbox.
I'm having CTDs nearly everytime I use the Sim, but on the same token, Flow is phenomenal tool, in my opinion, the positives outweigh the negatives.
I'll have to keep working to try and find ways to keep Flow and alleviate the issues.
I still haven't done thorough testing with Flow on the Xbox, as I mainly use my PC to fly in MSFS. You are correct: the positives of having and using Flow, far out way the negatives.
So presumably you've had to buy twice then, once a pro PC version and this Xbox version? I checked earlier, and I have the Xbox version and then went to PC and got the same version from the marketplace which works and brings over my settings. So it's a great deal for getting both versions. Really is a worthwhile investment to bring some things like the custom name tags and portal to Xbox, which were separate mods before and purely PC exclusive. I like the settings for doors and having autopilots at my fingertips.
It's a very versatile addon.
Just bought it on Xbox and it is amazing! Portal, drone cameras and weather buttons on the fly✈️👏🤩😍
Great isn't it ;)
I have the flow pro. But it would have been better if you could move it out of the main window. Like you can do with atc.
Do you mean to a second screen?
Is it possible to scroll through Flow icons without using a mouse? I would like to scroll using the hat switch of my VelocityOne Flightstick and press the trigger button to select a funcion. I know I can assign the wheel to a button but can I scroll through the icons ?
I can use the Xbox gamepad to scroll through them, it's a jus far easier with a mouse.
Using your FS should also work.
@@Huddison understood Thank you James. I'm about to purchase it as it improves MSFS UI. It's a very clever tool. When I'm flying with Xbox I use to do more relaxed flights comfortably laid on my TV room couch. :) So, my ideal scenario is to avoid using a mouse as it needs a good flat surface to work with. In my couch it would be much easir to have just the flightstick with it's good amount of buttons and levers, my charts, Ipad, some peanuts and a drink. It seems Flow comes very handy on the whole setup!
I really must get back to playing this !!!!
You're missing out my friend 😎
Finally
Does the specific application need a mouse and keyboard in Xbox series X or can I also use the remote control? Thank you very much!
A mouse is highly recommended to use with it.
@@Huddison Thank you very much. Appreciate it!
У меня сегодня появилась проблема.на на xbox x Бинг карты грузятся квадратами .у вас есть это?или может совет как решить?
Mine disappeared and it never came back. Do you know how to get it back?
The software itself? A reinstall should fix it.
Thanks, I'll try it.@@Huddison
@@Huddison Looks like it's airplane specific. It works on the 172 but not the DA62.
Worth getting flow just for the custom nametags alone!
Absolutely!
@@Huddison I'll pass. MSFS 2024 finally has full replay implementation built in to the program. Took them long enough! I'm really looking forward to this feature.
OG Sent me here. Subbed!
Good ol' OG ;)
just using flow for the first time . 3 times ctd when trying to jump to another location :-(
Another chap (Tango) in our discord is also getting a few CTD's; not sure what's causing it.
There are no differences between the PC/Xbox versions, like you said, Essentials to Essentials is identical.
Pro however there technically is no "difference", as Pro is only available on PC due to much more complex integration.
Hi Huddison. It’s been 5 months and I still don’t see Flow in my Xbox series X. I’m in the USA. Probably they only released it for Xbox in Europe. It’s a pity.
It's not showing on the Marketplace for you at all?
I'm in the US. It's there, and part of the Black Friday sale going on right now. I just downloaded it last night
This flow essential always shuts down my plane or automatically restarts the game ever since I installed it I've been having problems with the game. I uninstalled it and the game works now. I don't know what the problem is. This is on Xbox series S. I like it but now I say it was a waste of money try off and on using it still does the same .
Thanks for sharing - I'm aiming to do more thorough testing of Flow on my Series S.
@@Huddison it's always on the A320&A321&737Max those 3 the 737Max also doesn't Follow the route plan when I hit auto plan goes directly to the set destination the hdg on the top left compass. By passing the route waypoints.
Thank you for looking into it. I've talked to Microsoft they said really nothing but reset my console.
@@Huddison well I reinstalled it again the flow got a message on the settings of it saying my version of MSFS is ahead on what flow was tested on. Hmmm thought it was for MSFS 2020. Apparently not. That it won't work properly or entirely.
Got it rightaway.. but I have had 2 ctd's yesterday during a groupflight ..(something wich allmost never happens on an Xbox) and today I had another. while flying on my own.. Flow does not seem to be stable yet on Xbox.. I would hate it if I have to uninstall it, 'cause I love all the functions it brings..
I've not done much flying with it on Xbox as of yet Theo - it'll be interesting to hear if others are suffering the same fate as yourself :(
@@Huddison I have flown another groupflight yesterday evening and did not get ctd's.. :) (a bit of stuttering did occeur though..) So I'm carefull optimistic I can keep Flow installed.. :)
Any idea when the pro version will be available for Xbox users ?
Best place for that info will be on the //42 Discord (it's how we learned of Flow's release on Xbox).
Unfortunately the answer is "probably never"
Main additional feature with Pro, is user programmable extensions.
MS does not allow user created code to execute on the console.
All code that executes on the console, has to be signed by MS. It's part of why any mods have to go through the marketplace and can't just be copied on to console. It's the reason for the long delays on getting WASM on the XBox.
As such, there is no way of enabling this kind of extensibility on the console... It's specifically designed to stop this being possible... And so it's almost certainly never going to be possible to allow user programming, or sharing of programmable functionality without going through marketplace release.
Disappointed that there is no widget for the NAV frequencies, would have been great to have all the radio dials on one wheel :(
I hadn't looked that far - perhaps there's a way around it via the core widgets.
@@Huddison can't find it, had a real good look - wanted to be able to switch things like taxi markers on and off too. I think the functionality on xbox is a bit limited, I'd hope for more widgets In the future, but what it does it does very well, vastly improves the tool bar