You referenced basic Chimerstry. But the illusions created are sensory, and while everyone and their brother think of things they want enemies to see, I've always found more traction with tactics like making those chasing my character feel the tactile sensation of their heads being cut off, or their skin on fire as a blur bursts past them. Visual illusions are the easiest, but I've found them to be the least fun.
Oh dear Some vampire came up to me and I thought he said "fear my chemistry ! " and I just responded by laughing at him but now I think I may have made a mistake
Chimestry with fortitude at first and second level of each can be deadly as you can make a static image real ,embodies chacing you ,brick wall , giant 20ft wide 60 ft deep hole ,or even ,a damn weapon out of thin air ,you have a constant arsenal or throwing knives ,spears ,temporary stakes ect... you could even make a curtain inbetween you and somone and let them talk about there whole plan and have a tape recorder .
I always liked the Ravnos. Illusions are an odd power for vampires (little to no legends have them as illusionists) but the Ravnos just have miles of style. I had a Malkavian character who was allied with a Ravnos NPC. Sowing chaos and madness was made very easy for this deadly alliance. Eventually I had to kill the Ravnos (as you do) because much like the scorpion and the frog, treachery was just in his nature.
Thanks for all the fine plugs in this video brother. I appreciate it. I might be able to get a vid response up for it tonight. Great job with the vid. I think I'll not even mention the progenitor as you covered that whole piece so thoroughly. Obfuscate is a great out of clan discipline for one from this clan to pick up.
I'd wager that Loki could actually be a potent Ravnos that somehow trolled--pun very much intended--someone into writing him into the Poetic Edda. XD I would love to make a "The Dance of The Thrashing Dragon" yang virtue Kuei-jin version of Ikkyu Sojun. As one of my favorite eccentric Zen practitioner poets of Japan, I think he would suit that role nicely. ^^
Favorite clan, without a doubt. Favorite character was a holocaust survivor with a chip on his shoulder when it came to anyone abusing their power and bigots in general. Which led to his vice of committing elaborate, over the top, murders (Rube Goldberg meets Final Destination elaborate) of people who he thought abused their power. It was really enjoyable to play a character who wanted to help the less fortunate, but in the shadows would kill wantonly and without hesitation if he felt wronged or his vice kicked in. Made for some interesting sessions over the years. My all time favorite character, until he killed the wrong person and put to death for it. Apparently Venture get upset when you kill one of their own, even if the blue blood was a former Nazi general and deserved to die.
@Nejira Not at all! It's really all about role-playing and storytelling. There's no reason why a Ventrue can't command a mob leader (let's say) with one dot in Dominate to "defecate" therefore embarrassing him in front of his capos or another influential gang leader in one fell swoop as he shits himself.
I like the more well rounded treatment in the revised edition clanbook, also the crimes of the beast are way more interesting than before. I am sick of people playing Ravnos as pickpockets or compulsory murderers. Chimestry is a very powerfull discipline indeed, but very costly with all the willpower points that go in it. You made the point of discrimination against them quite good. I also liked the different ideas that can be found in libellus sanguinus (insert right number) on them.
Lol, you might think differently if you ever saw my gypsy in a game. Some might run around with tambourines flinging magic around, but it's more complicated than that. So yes, book wasn't the greatest, but a Gypsy character in a vampire game can make things very interesting indeed ;)
Ever thought about doing a video on Gypsies in the World of Darkness? They have their own book as well, though it's meant to be more of a supplement than a separate game. Been playing them awhile, and I have to say it's quite fun!
Watching these videos, especially on my favourite clan, has made me want to play VTM even more. Of course there's the fact I've never played a tabletop game, know of no one that has even heard of Vampire the Masquerade, nor do I know anyone that has ever even played so much as D&D. It sucks, really. That reminds me, I'd love to summon Jesus as a Ravnos.
Currently playing an ottoman prince turned into ravanos, was really good at lying and impressed a pack of triplets, much to my characters eternal despair.
@TheNerubin Ravnos are more than just kleptomaniac gypsies. More people should see them as the scary wanderers that they actually are. Chimerstry is still not the most costly discipline however...
@Onionkid99 The entire idea of Chimerstry stems from one scene in the Lost Boys where I believe Keifer Sutherland makes a kid think he's looking at a bowl of maggots. One scene and a Discipline was born! I'm sure the Malk and the Ravnos were welcome in ever Prince's domain!
i dunno if this is a good idea but could you perhaps give a look into some of the clans or lineages of vampire the requiem? like morbus or showing some of the differences between for example the vtr malkovians from the vtm malkavians etc etc? would be pretty interesting love your vids on anything white wolf related =3 your voice is almost hipnotic
Had to do a good deal of research for my Dark Ages character, Indian Brahmin Ravnos Sadhu (blood sorcerer). I love the culturally exotic clans! Mayaparisataya is probably my favorite Road/Path. It's some brutal shit
I don't know if you've read the WoD Gypsies book, but it's quite interesting in relation to the Ravnos clan of kindred as well as lupines and Gangrel. Have you ever thought of doing a video on the Gypsies?
Nice video! Forgot to put the spelling of that word (that sounds like "Chemistry"). Also pleeeeease do a playthrough of VtM : Bloodlines (the patches within). You won't have to read the dialog on that one too! I only want to hear comments from a WoD Scholar. Cheers sir!
@woodwwad I imagine even an Antediluvian with vast powers of Fortitude and Chimerstry would struggle to face the powers of multiple suns and a bunch of Bodhisattvas.
Watching this vid has got me thinking: the modern interpretation of the Joker. Especially the Nolan-verse version. He'd be a far better candidate for the Ravnos than the Malkavians, in a sense. (The Malks could pick from other members of the Batman's Rogue's Gallery, of course.) Again, just my thoughts out loud.
Two questions mateys! 01.) Is it possible to create a pnp character who is Ravnos by clan and disciplines, but has nothing to do with gypsies or Indians/Pakistanis whatsoever? Like, is there a fully European breed of Ravnos? 02.) Can Chimerstry be given to a vampire of a different clan?
@Rudolph 1. easy explanation is that the sire embraced an outsider for some reason then was destroyed before teaching of the culture 2. technically yes (depending on storyteller approval) but more expensive for non-clan as usual, and good luck finding a Ravnos willing to teach it
I don't remember there being a specific rule but want to say non-clan is limited to 5 dots (rather than 10 for in-clan and generic), but I could be thinking of something else. As for clan guidance, I was always under the impression that once you know the basics of a Discipline, further advancement is gained innately or by personal research. Again, with most Storytellers, you had better have an extensive backstory or story progression for the reason your character has access to another clan's special Discipline, even as a Caitiff/Pander. Many of these special Disciplines are closely tied to the different physiology and weakness of a clan, such as Malkavian Dementation and their Derangements. One might even go as far as requiring the character to take on an additional Weakness specific to that clan, like someone learning Dementation would gain a Derangement (and as a possible counterbalance might gain extra character creation points for taking it as another Flaw, within normal limits).
@clackclickbang That is of course if any of that was even there to begin with. The true problem here is once one can alter reality to this level where does the truth begin?
so since ravnos have the power to create illusions they will find hard time with malkavians, they are already mad and inspiring madness in them or illusions wouldnt be so effective, since they got auspex to. am i right?
@clackclickbang Dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!!! I've always known, but the insanity has been hampering me a bit since I found out about it, all I need to be now is a vampire and I'd be Malkavian!
@TheNerubin It's Bronhom at his over-acting finest in the wonderful movie Taffin. It's awful really. Download the Adam & Joe podcast and you shall be enlightened.
Clan Ravnos, I have often contemplated on this clan. When can one play a Ravnos? Modern nights? Camarilla game? Sabbat game? When? Nobody wants them around, nobody trusts them, they move around all the time. What is the point of having this clan in the game? Is this clan viable for a player to play? Or is it merely an NPC only clan?
@TheNerubin Ravnos are more than just kleptomaniac gypsies. More people should see them as the scary wanderers that they actually are. Chimerstry is still not the most costly discipline however...
You referenced basic Chimerstry. But the illusions created are sensory, and while everyone and their brother think of things they want enemies to see, I've always found more traction with tactics like making those chasing my character feel the tactile sensation of their heads being cut off, or their skin on fire as a blur bursts past them. Visual illusions are the easiest, but I've found them to be the least fun.
I'd like my next character to be a Ravnos.
Oh dear
Some vampire came up to me and I thought he said
"fear my chemistry ! "
and I just responded by laughing at him but now I think I may have made a mistake
Chimestry with fortitude at first and second level of each can be deadly as you can make a static image real ,embodies chacing you ,brick wall , giant 20ft wide 60 ft deep hole ,or even ,a damn weapon out of thin air ,you have a constant arsenal or throwing knives ,spears ,temporary stakes ect... you could even make a curtain inbetween you and somone and let them talk about there whole plan and have a tape recorder .
I always liked the Ravnos. Illusions are an odd power for vampires (little to no legends have them as illusionists) but the Ravnos just have miles of style.
I had a Malkavian character who was allied with a Ravnos NPC. Sowing chaos and madness was made very easy for this deadly alliance.
Eventually I had to kill the Ravnos (as you do) because much like the scorpion and the frog, treachery was just in his nature.
He was an eastern Ravnos *cough*
Thanks for all the fine plugs in this video brother. I appreciate it. I might be able to get a vid response up for it tonight. Great job with the vid. I think I'll not even mention the progenitor as you covered that whole piece so thoroughly.
Obfuscate is a great out of clan discipline for one from this clan to pick up.
The most enjoyable and educational vids on Vamps.
True, true. I would love to hear more about how you make gypsies a more acceptable type of supernatural though.
I'd wager that Loki could actually be a potent Ravnos that somehow trolled--pun very much intended--someone into writing him into the Poetic Edda. XD
I would love to make a "The Dance of The Thrashing Dragon" yang virtue Kuei-jin version of Ikkyu Sojun. As one of my favorite eccentric Zen practitioner poets of Japan, I think he would suit that role nicely. ^^
Favorite clan, without a doubt.
Favorite character was a holocaust survivor with a chip on his shoulder when it came to anyone abusing their power and bigots in general. Which led to his vice of committing elaborate, over the top, murders (Rube Goldberg meets Final Destination elaborate) of people who he thought abused their power. It was really enjoyable to play a character who wanted to help the less fortunate, but in the shadows would kill wantonly and without hesitation if he felt wronged or his vice kicked in.
Made for some interesting sessions over the years.
My all time favorite character, until he killed the wrong person and put to death for it.
Apparently Venture get upset when you kill one of their own, even if the blue blood was a former Nazi general and deserved to die.
@Nejira Not at all! It's really all about role-playing and storytelling. There's no reason why a Ventrue can't command a mob leader (let's say) with one dot in Dominate to "defecate" therefore embarrassing him in front of his capos or another influential gang leader in one fell swoop as he shits himself.
This is an interesting look at Clan Ravnos. I have never played that faction, but your description makes them sound interesting.
Give Zapa a few ears tor ecover from the torpor, and it will take 10 times the effort to take him down. And it would probably fail.
It is a great clan i loved playing one, I played him low key and played. Had great fun with Chimerstry playing with heart desire is a great power.
I can't believe it took me so damn long to realize you had a Taffin reference at the end of your video
A Bronhom classic!
I will think on it... Requiem ones will be harder with the lack of metaplot behind them.
I like the more well rounded treatment in the revised edition clanbook, also the crimes of the beast are way more interesting than before.
I am sick of people playing Ravnos as pickpockets or compulsory murderers.
Chimestry is a very powerfull discipline indeed, but very costly with all the willpower points that go in it.
You made the point of discrimination against them quite good.
I also liked the different ideas that can be found in libellus sanguinus (insert right number) on them.
Lol, you might think differently if you ever saw my gypsy in a game. Some might run around with tambourines flinging magic around, but it's more complicated than that. So yes, book wasn't the greatest, but a Gypsy character in a vampire game can make things very interesting indeed ;)
I run a Wuzhoo Ravnos, who's crime of choice is murder. Worth mentioning that he does follow the path of Paradox
Ever thought about doing a video on Gypsies in the World of Darkness? They have their own book as well, though it's meant to be more of a supplement than a separate game. Been playing them awhile, and I have to say it's quite fun!
WHAO ... when i heard you pronounce Chimerstry my jaw hit the floor... i always heard is sound like SHIMerstry
Watching these videos, especially on my favourite clan, has made me want to play VTM even more. Of course there's the fact I've never played a tabletop game, know of no one that has even heard of Vampire the Masquerade, nor do I know anyone that has ever even played so much as D&D. It sucks, really.
That reminds me, I'd love to summon Jesus as a Ravnos.
7 years ago... have you played it now?
That was really good I've been interested in Vampires but the books are hard to find and gaming groups are even harder, I'm anticipating the next.
can you bro make a speech about malkavian join with ravnos as friends? or mentors initiators ;... possibles
Currently playing an ottoman prince turned into ravanos, was really good at lying and impressed a pack of triplets, much to my characters eternal despair.
@TheNerubin Ravnos are more than just kleptomaniac gypsies. More people should see them as the scary wanderers that they actually are.
Chimerstry is still not the most costly discipline however...
@mollytherealdeal Thank you for the compliment! I like to give a balanced opinion of a clan, rather than focusing on the unnecessary stereotypes.
@Onionkid99 The entire idea of Chimerstry stems from one scene in the Lost Boys where I believe Keifer Sutherland makes a kid think he's looking at a bowl of maggots. One scene and a Discipline was born!
I'm sure the Malk and the Ravnos were welcome in ever Prince's domain!
@SamuraiTim777 I think that might be the one we're looking forward to doing the most.
Jesus had too much True Faith to be a vampire.
@seatspud I think the Ravnos match the Joker perfectly well.
i dunno if this is a good idea but could you perhaps give a look into some of the clans or lineages of vampire the requiem? like morbus or showing some of the differences between for example the vtr malkovians from the vtm malkavians etc etc? would be pretty interesting
love your vids on anything white wolf related =3 your voice is almost hipnotic
@Tschenggo You're almost there!
great video's. you seem to have truly mastered the lore of wod.
@blinddoctorwho That rainbow is an extension of Cthulhu's grasp!
You made it to the end!
Hell of a lot more fun than playing a normal mortal among kindred, that's for damn sure!
Had to do a good deal of research for my Dark Ages character, Indian Brahmin Ravnos Sadhu (blood sorcerer). I love the culturally exotic clans! Mayaparisataya is probably my favorite Road/Path. It's some brutal shit
@woodwwad You deserve it. Your channel is always entertaining.
Zapathasura is a scary bugger. Well and truly dead now of course.
how the shit did i miss you made this
I don't know if you've read the WoD Gypsies book, but it's quite interesting in relation to the Ravnos clan of kindred as well as lupines and Gangrel. Have you ever thought of doing a video on the Gypsies?
Nice video! Forgot to put the spelling of that word (that sounds like "Chemistry").
Also pleeeeease do a playthrough of VtM : Bloodlines (the patches within). You won't have to read the dialog on that one too! I only want to hear comments from a WoD Scholar. Cheers sir!
@woodwwad I imagine even an Antediluvian with vast powers of Fortitude and Chimerstry would struggle to face the powers of multiple suns and a bunch of Bodhisattvas.
I do on my second channel; thegentinquestion
Watching this vid has got me thinking: the modern interpretation of the Joker. Especially the Nolan-verse version. He'd be a far better candidate for the Ravnos than the Malkavians, in a sense. (The Malks could pick from other members of the Batman's Rogue's Gallery, of course.)
Again, just my thoughts out loud.
So... I've found the first one.
@Nyrufa They are pretty neat. I like the Ravnos.
Two questions mateys!
01.) Is it possible to create a pnp character who is Ravnos by clan and disciplines, but has nothing to do with gypsies or Indians/Pakistanis whatsoever? Like, is there a fully European breed of Ravnos?
02.) Can Chimerstry be given to a vampire of a different clan?
@Rudolph
1. easy explanation is that the sire embraced an outsider for some reason then was destroyed before teaching of the culture
2. technically yes (depending on storyteller approval) but more expensive for non-clan as usual, and good luck finding a Ravnos willing to teach it
2. what is the highest level a non-ravnos can advance without clan guidance?
I don't remember there being a specific rule but want to say non-clan is limited to 5 dots (rather than 10 for in-clan and generic), but I could be thinking of something else. As for clan guidance, I was always under the impression that once you know the basics of a Discipline, further advancement is gained innately or by personal research. Again, with most Storytellers, you had better have an extensive backstory or story progression for the reason your character has access to another clan's special Discipline, even as a Caitiff/Pander. Many of these special Disciplines are closely tied to the different physiology and weakness of a clan, such as Malkavian Dementation and their Derangements. One might even go as far as requiring the character to take on an additional Weakness specific to that clan, like someone learning Dementation would gain a Derangement (and as a possible counterbalance might gain extra character creation points for taking it as another Flaw, within normal limits).
Thank you!
To clarify - the Gypsies book is about as bad as giving magical powers to Jews, or homosexuals. Or any other 'group'. Stick to the clanbooks!
@Deckof51 You'd be a member of that clan.
Good video on one of my favorite clans :D
Indeed!
@clackclickbang That is of course if any of that was even there to begin with. The true problem here is once one can alter reality to this level where does the truth begin?
@RedVstheBlue Thank you!
great video
@Chiived I'm a secret agent for White Wolf...
Where can you read the fight against Ravnos? in which book is it described?
@Azartusfar Glad to hear it :o)
There are quite a few Vampires with True Faith though aren't there? Maybe I'm mistaken but I could've sworn there were.
@DirtyBriefcase Taffin! A piece of Bronhom's finest over-acting.
@fikealox Thanks for watching!
@woodwwad Indeed!
@vivaladanisawsomes Thank you!
I do not know.
@SamuraiTim777 They'll be the next up.
so since ravnos have the power to create illusions they will find hard time with malkavians, they are already mad and inspiring madness in them or illusions wouldnt be so effective, since they got auspex to. am i right?
If the auspex is higer, ok. If not, illusions will stil affect them.
@clackclickbang Yes, he is scary. Interesting you think you could know if something equal to a god of illusions is dead.
...There's a Clan Asinite?
...Asinine? Sounds way to similar to be a coincidence.
@clackclickbang Dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!!!
I've always known, but the insanity has been hampering me a bit since I found out about it, all I need to be now is a vampire and I'd be Malkavian!
I think you should review a RPG that deals with puppies, bunnies & rainbows.
Whats with Tom Baker ? :-)
@23penguins32 This is independent! Completely unbiased.
Me.
You probably did, now you're gonna be seeing illusions all around you.
@23penguins32 I doubt it'd be a compliment to be put in any clan, to be honest...
U should play vampire the masquerade final nights it's good
Then maybe you shouldn't be LIIVVIINNNGG HEEERRREEEEEEEEEE!
@tetsubo57 All of which are in a negative energy plane with rabies and ravenous all the time, especially that damn rainbow!
i do for instance
@23penguins32 Hrn?
@TheNerubin It's Bronhom at his over-acting finest in the wonderful movie Taffin. It's awful really. Download the Adam & Joe podcast and you shall be enlightened.
Clan Ravnos, I have often contemplated on this clan. When can one play a Ravnos? Modern nights? Camarilla game? Sabbat game? When? Nobody wants them around, nobody trusts them, they move around all the time. What is the point of having this clan in the game? Is this clan viable for a player to play? Or is it merely an NPC only clan?
@tetsubo57 Blech.
Awful bloody book. So, no.
I have it on good authority that Jesus and Christianity are just a Malkavian prank.
Who even plays oWoD
@TheNerubin Ravnos are more than just kleptomaniac gypsies. More people should see them as the scary wanderers that they actually are.
Chimerstry is still not the most costly discipline however...