It is so painful. Why not just really go for it with nails on the chalkboard??? I have yet to use a marker that can deliver that type of sonic pain. So British to open like that... lol
For a counseling class. Makes sense to me, but it also didn't introduce a lot that I wasn't already aware of. People learn differently. We're more inclined to challenge rules and think creatively as children. Methods and regulations meant to encourage students sometimes do more harm in the long run...
+Daisuke Sakurai -I tried to teach differently, in a more creative, enlightened, interesting way, i got fired for not fitting into this 'excellent' system... :(
+Szilvia K Me too! The problem is the same around the world. I was in London, now in the middle east. It will change when we as a society change. Everything comes back to us individuals. Our schools are like that because of they're run by people who dont care, and they're in charge because they're told what to do by governments who dont care. Governments are like that because corrupt people get in power easily because most of us dont care to change ourselves and stand together to get better governments. Most of us live in fear doing jobs we hate. When we become more honest with ourselves, things will change. And they will change, the question is when.
True... and sad...many of us hoping, trying, and waiting for others to wake up and make some efforts too because without united, collective efforts, brave individuals trying to improve things, risk everything and are victimized, hindered, fired...
Over the past 4 years or so I have been thinking exactly this, I am 17 years old now. This has summed up all my thoughts perfectly. You have genuinely inspired me to redesign the education system. Watch out world - here I come. Thank you.
+Oscar Stubbs - I suggest looking into the field of Community Psychology. It's all about how to create systems change and Education is a major area of focus: www.scra27.org/what-we-do/what-community-psychology/
Wow! I have been saying this for so long, not as detailed as this gentleman but verbally. Proof is definitely there. I work in mindset mentoring for kids and have trying to get this into schools in Australia. Not every child is the same, none of us are and we all have a uniqueness within us, including in which the way we learn. This has opened my eyes even wider than before. My daughter is studying to be a teacher, I'll be showing her this as soon as she gets home. I am more determined and driven now to get my vision out there. So far I have contacted 55 schools with my mindset mentoring to teach kids how to make decisions, about money and life skills. We are just taught knowledge in school.
When I see a video over 2 min. long, I groan, roll my eyes, and keep scrolling. I played this video at the insistence of a peer and watched it all from start to finish, eyes glued to the screen, completely enraptured and understanding everything in full gravity as Sir Ken Robinson said it. That says quite a lot about this technique of teaching and engaging the audience, because when the end of the video came, I was surprised to find myself transported 11 minutes and 40 seconds into the future. Bravo.
Whilst I love this and have recommended it to many as it makes some really insightful observations on education, I do feel I must correct some assertions made on ADHD, especially since we're approaching Mental Health Awareness week here in the UK: *1) ADHD is not a matter of debate* Although whether or not the US in particular has a stringent enough diagnosis process is. *2) Ritalin is an amphetamine stimulant, like speed, not a sedative (methylphenidate).* If you have normal dopamine levels (i.e. you don't have ADHD or Parkinson’s) then it'll have the same effect as speed, cocaine, meths, etc (it's very dangerous to take unprescribed.) If you lack dopamine in your brain, methylphenidate in the right dosage and properly prescribed alleviates the stress caused by ADHD, so the patient is able to maintain normal executive function and lead a more typically productive life. It does not increase focus in non-ADHD brains. As an interesting presentation which makes my point, if sufferers of severe ADHD were to take speed it would calm them down (to a point), rather than speed them up. *3) And probably MOST IMPORTANTLY: It's damaging to imply that ADHD might not be real or might be medical fashion* Yes, it may be overdiagnosed in the US, but to say it’s fashion can cause real distress for sufferers. You wouldn't suggest that Dyslexia, Asperges, or Autism is medical fashion, because you already know that would be harmful. Feel free to challenge me on any of this if you disagree.
1.) So you're saying that: "ADHD is not a matter of debate" yet the speaker in the video is saying the opposite - he is not alone in this assertion by the way - surely this qualifies ADHD as a debatable subject matter? 2.) Yes, Ritalin is a stimulant, however the Methylphenidate Hydrochloride package leaflet literally lists "feeling unusually sleepy or drowsy" as a "common side effect". 3.) I feel it may be more damaging to imply that ADHD is absolutely a legitimate brain disorder without the requisite scientific data to back those claims. You mention "normal dopamine levels", I'd be interested to know what this actually means and how these levels are tested and asserted.
Thank you for this response. I hold Sir Robinson's views on education in high regard and I was dissappointed to hear such a simplistic take on ADHD, without the explanations you provided.
@@adammoore2380 twin studies prove it's genetic, brain scans prove it's real in the brain under functioning of prefrontal cortex and reward center of brain, lack of early intervention can lead to long term side effects. See Kazda 2021 analysis of over 300 studies. Can be over diagnosed in children and adolescents particularly young boys. Not girls, not POC, not low socioeconomic status ppl., not adults. Feel free to read the study I cited if you're curious to learn more.
I've been listening to this guy's speeches all day and it just resonates with me more than anything I have seen in a long time. I was misdiagnosed with adhd in elementary school (this wonderful psychologist actually told me in 5th grade that it was a misdiagnosis so I know). So I spent 5 years believing I had adhd when all I had was this thing called childhood. Eventually in 10th grade I switched to an alternative school and everything Robinson has said regarding alternative schools in his other speeches is spot on. I'm a senior at my alternative school, going to college next year and this school has had a profound impact on me. I'll spare the details, but I just want to confirm that alternative schools are very often the solution and right now what I'm most passionate about is making this education revolution happen and I will do everything in my power to achieve this. I wouldn't have this passion if it were not for my alternative school experience, which inspired learning instead of forcing conformity. Much thanks to Ken Robinson for his words of wisdom and innspiration andsharing his vision with us.
Speaking about divergent thinking, our schools were built based on the Prussian model in which education at the time was about making people disciplined for factory jobs. I think we need our kids to innovate more, and have more chunking of lessons and less standardization. Imagine how many innovations kids could make if they all worked on building hand mold replicators or self-replicating 3D printers...
So, 8yrs on, how did you fare through the (conventional?) higher education/college system? (after identifying that an alternative grade school was a better fit for you rather than conventional grade school).
@@mandy347 Agreed and doesn't take different presentations in girls into account either, but to be fair the understanding then around ADHD was much less
I certainly remember being much better at being creative when I was younger, but now that I'm a freshman in High School, I've noticed that I'm much worse at the whole creativity thing. Now, the problem is, I'm being praised. Why? I am great at finding the one answer. I can take tests very well, but am typically not the best at projects. Math is my best subject, English is my worst, where you typically have to write creative essays. I want to be an engineer, so at my school, we have an elective called pre-engineering. It's one of the closest classes to an actual job that's available at my school. And I'm not the best at it. Sure I can do the math required, but coming up with ideas for better designs is hard. I feel that this shows that my education is doing the opposite of preparing me for the future. It's telling me that there's one answer, which is never the case in engineering. I hope that soon enough we can have an education overhaul, and realize that we need to change education.
Im the exact opposite im pretty good in English and History and I also draw alot but im terrible in Math and i dont like doing it very much. Ive tried and tried but i always end up doing poorly/barely average in Math. I wish it was the other way around though. Being good in math gets you much farther than being good in English and such. Or it seems that way anyway
Octodog, you and I are in the same boat. Good at math, writing is my worst subject, and having difficulties in engineering. I was creative at a young age as well, and now I struggle in my Engineering Fundamentals class in college.
Maybe ur bad at Creative essays because u dont see the purpose in it. But if u love Math and Engineering u should connect creative essay writing with these topics and ur probably going to be great at it. Write an essay regarding Math and topics u love. Also regarding creativity u have to have a purpose in order to start to be creative. Surround yourself with orange color it is a great creativity booster. Ive tried it myself. It works reaaally well. Also try some orange fruit scent candles or everything that stimulates 2nd chakra.
I watched this for the first time as a college sophomore in 2008. I had undiagnosed ADHD and wondered why school was so hard for me. This video was the beginning of major life changes that led to dropping out of college and starting a successful business. It’s been nearly 20 years and I’m so glad that I carved out a life for myself instead of following the traditional life path.
Glad it worked out for you, but sad for all the others who saw this and quit and didn't have your success, when pursuing a diagnosis and getting life-changing medication could have made a huge difference. I too failed hard my sophomore year (2006) but was diagnosed and graduated with honors for Biochemistry and went on to grad school.
Got to love the USA's teaching system. We push for higher test scores, so we teach the test. The understanding on how the answer came about is over looked. Children of forced into remembering rather than understanding the process, all while our kids are pumped up on school lunches/snacks that most healthy adults would refuse to eat.
+Bestoftherest222 Same in the UK unfortunately. Many of the kids in the one I work in are rebelling and all they do is put them in "isolation" or send them away, for minor offences. 2 Kids were isolated for a day for making paper planes. Sad. "HILTS, escaping again are we? COOLER 8 WEEKS!"
+Bestoftherest222 - I take things with a grain of salt - especially when pushed by a group with a potential political/profit motive. One thing that I agree with is that imagination/creativity is killed by the current education system - you create a system which forces kids to spit out answers but cannot come up with new revolutionary ideas. Then again perhaps that is what the companies and government want - mind numbed robots - which just follow orders. If you ever want to see where USA could end up a decade from now, go teach English in Japan and see what over-educating kids can do to them.
I regret the years wasted at school. And I was an excellent student! Most of the information and skills that I acquired was by experiencing life on my own. And I believe that in school they should teach about psychology (loving and accepting yourself, relationship with other people), communication, basic finance, applied physics and chemistry (how to understand ingredients labels on consumer products or how the electronic appliances in the house work), what to do in extreme situations, how to cope with stress, how to go through transitional periods of life and determine your interests and desires, how to take care of the body and mind, basic pharmacology, etc. Pretty much all the topics that adults struggle with and approach to self-help books for guidance which doesn't really work.
I debunked the whole field of psychology in my ebook EXPOSING THE MONEY MACHINE. We need to stop believing everything we are taught, and yes, collaborate on thought as to what we can glean from facts, and develop theories on our own as to what is truth. The establishment teaches many lies that we accept as truth, because they have letters after their name (MD, PHD, MS, etc.) Researching and developing concepts of our own leads to awakening and truth.
Villanizing products of the system (MD, PHD, MS) isnt really the answer. Im not disagreeing with your general statement by any means, but lets not blame those of the system rather those for the system. Just my 2 cents.
I was not villainizing them, i was saying that they have bought into making money as being important, they have believed anything taught to them as being truth, not searching for such, but just in passing tests, and they author more nonsense for others to believe. People believe anything and obey any orders or teachings if you have authority of any kind, especially if you have letters after your name.
And how to cook and grow food! How to do first aid! How to build a house... A sustainable one. And make solar cells maybe. How to do electrics. How to express emotions and communicate better. Yes i agree the curriculum misses on so many vital things and teaches so many things that we all forget, or that is so biased and flawed (history) as to be indoctrination more than education...
I love this vid BUT we know a LOT more about ADHD now. I am 45, spent my life literally mentally wrecked, was mis-diagnosed with all sorts of mental illness, had four total mental breakdowns, nothing helped, for decades. Did all the therapies all the mindfullness, thought about adhd in the same way this Vid does. Was diagnosed Audhd (autistic and adhd) at 45, and put on the ADHD stuff. It worked. Almost instantly. I had spent my whole life fighting my own head to control my emotions and reactions and non stop obsessive thoughts that literally exhausted me. ADHD is very very very real and about a lot more than focus.
@@NatalieLenceI disagree that he is stigmatising ADHD. What he's saying is it is not the individual who is wrong, but the narrow and constraining system we try to fit them into that is wrong. That's actually a pretty core principle of the neurodivergency model.
@@emmalouise8977 Agreed. These days, the understanding is more about the divergent thinking Sir Robinson talks about shortly after talking about ADHD and facilitating for those with different learning needs are far more commonplace today. Whereas back when this talk was originally recorded and later animated as above; it was still the thing to do to give ritalin and adderall to children.
I think this touches more on the diagnosis, and continued problem as someone affected by it, of continuing to diagnose kids in their developmental years with serious problems and medicating them without really knowing what it will do, if it will help or if kids have these problems to begin with. The problem is school expects you to behave a certain way and if you’re not cut out for it you’re labeled as divergent. This can effect people later in life who struggled in their formative years and leads to issues like you face of not getting proper treatment because school is looking to see if you only fit in 1 certain way, and society doesn’t care to really help you check again later once you’re out.
Many years ago, this video was shown in a staff meeting. It was a catalyst in my awakening to the issues with the current education system. I refer to it often and it inspires me to keep pushing for change!
fully alive arts and aesthetic experience 5:53 deadening anaesthetic experience 6:13 wake up children 6:26 rotten education factory 6:48 rotten standardisation 7:30 divergent thinking leads to essential creativity 7:55 lots of possible answers 8:03 when are you at genius level for divergent thinking 9:13 genepool of rotten education stifles creativity 10:28
SO MUCH TRUTH IN ONE VIDEO My philosophy teacher, who is a very intelligent and beautiful woman, showed us this as part of the course, but afterwards she was really emotional because she didn't want to mark our creative essays anymore but she had to because of the system. She'd rather just read all we create and give comments and enjoy it, but the grading ruins it all.
I love this video. I've shown it to many people. To those debating whether or not this emphasizes common core, you're missing the point. The system in which common core must work is broken. Imagine a gaping wound. Common core is yet another attempt to put a bandaid on it. The problem is not CC. It's the educational machine. A new set of procedures doesn't make the machine work better when it's an antique and can't keep up with today's evolved situation. So, let's fix it. Great video.
Heather Lake No, I think Common Core has its place right now. It's seeking to put a bandage on a gaping wound, however. It's the system that is sick, not the potential cures like Common Core.
RELATION EDUCATION FOR SCHOOLS So basically I made this petition yesterday and today I decided to do some research to see if anyone else feels the same and I came across Ken Robinson! Such an intelligent man who knows what he's talking about. And reading some of the comments on here about joy being taken from education shows that this really is important and people need to notice it! My aim for this petition is to launch the start of Relationship Education classes for young people. Where we can teach children the values of trust, respect, loyalty, communication, love, and integrity in the right way. Our kids deserve to grow up happy and I believe with the start of this classes we can ensure they learn the most valuable life skills that will help them throughout their entire life. We have all made mistakes growing up but wouldn't it have been great if someone were there to guide us through and share with us their own experiences so we can be aware of how important the decisions we make now will effect us in the long run? Could this one class change many peoples lives for the better? If you want to help me get these classes into our school then please please PLEASE sign this petition I will link below :) Hopefully we can fix the educational system before it is too late. you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/relationship-education-for-schools
Sir Ken not only has a strong grasp of our educational reality, but he successfully articulates the importance of my role as a Drama teacher in a way that I never could. Thank you Sir!
Please never ever take this video offline. Changing our education systems will take a lot of time. We need this video to put the message across. More and more children and young people lose touch with their core, their dreams, their passions and consequently slip into depression. So many adults never got the chance to excel in something, to contribute their talents to society because those talents got nipped in the bud at a very early stage in their lives.
Well said. I'm 17 now and though I should be 'grateful' for having an education, I can't say I am honestly. When I was a kid, I was innovative, loved to think, loved to explore different possibilities and correct me if I'm wrong but the education has such a... Rigid system that there's no room for one to be creative. Being creative is considered incorrect, as rubbish, because they simply don't comply with the standardized and accepted answers in the eyes of education. Educating creativity out of kids in a way causes [Or should I say, encourages] them to stop thinking, to just follow whatever that is given and not question. This is the case for me right now and I feel as lifeless as a corpse. I don't mean to say ALL of us but mostly, we are forced to memorize perfect answers and copy and paste those onto our test papers. The education now aims for students to have perfect scores, to be successful in life in the sense that it helps the economy to prosper and whatnot but that isn't what education is really about, right? I seriously feel that the process of learning is lacking because so much focus is on the output instead. I've been studying for less than 20 years and it already feels like eternity. One of my childhood aspirations was to be an artist but it didn't last long because I was educated out of the idea that 'I would not have a good future being an artist'. The only time I feel excited about learning as of now is when opportunities are presented in class where anyone can share their opinions on certain issues, their different perspectives. It isn't technically 'education' I guess in the eyes of the system but to me, I think it is and I love this kind of teaching. It's diversity that I appreciate, not routines to ensure that I emerge as a 'successful' individual in life.
depends on where a person lives and who they take the money from. If we reject the money to conform (federal and state funding) we are considered poor and uneducated, but oh how much richer we will be!
This is his speech. RIP. He is for ever in my mind. He was a Professor at the University of Warwick and i tought going to vist Coventry in the next year. I have to thank him for his insperation and to encourage me to teach in my way (with success). He was a INFUENCER. I hope he is going to be in 10-20 years one of the educational classics. As montesouri for childeren and Carl Roger for therapist and coacher. Always in my mind, you are always in my mind. mhmhmh
@@dickurkel6910 I thought the whole point of this speech is that there are multiple answers rather than just one. Yes, the original quote is a fish but most dogs don't climb trees so it still works or you could say hippos giraffes or horses it really doesn't matter. There are millions of possibilities here, i.e. divergent thinking. Belittling or demeaning someone because they were unable to recall a quote 100% accurately but still convey its general meaning is like a teacher calling a child stupid or more suitable for "unskilled work" because they cannot recite Shakespeare by heart. In reality, all it does by replacing 'fish' with 'dog' in the quote is show understanding by contextualising it differently just as a the same child who cannot recite Shakespeare word-for-word but understands it could probably write a modern day parody of a Shakespeare play. It's just as easy to see the merit in other people's contributions as it is to point out others' mistakes and vilify them for it, it's just a matter of choice.
@@dickurkel6910 I agree, that's the same meaning I derive from the quote. It's the overall message in the speech in the video that I was previously referring to.
I found this very interesting, and as someone with ADHD-I, I had a lot of hyperfocused thoughts about it. It brought up so many points of interest. With in each of these is the fact that education was built upon the industrial revolution, ADHD is considered an epidemic of our time, and our factory type of education destroys or ability for divergent thinking. From the start of the industrial revolution the idea became that people should work in factories and large businesses. As time went on this idea continued but in a different way. By the 1920's there was a drive towards raising the standards of living. People were encouraged overtime to get out of the cities where they worked, and live in the suburbs in a house, get married and join a standard stereotype where the women stayed home to raise to raise their children and the men went to work hopefully using the education they gained to obtain this idealistic life style. But like he said in the talk, this type of trend doesn't work anymore. Styles of life are so divergent and it's obvious that not everyone can get a high paying job resulting from higher education and all women aren't going to be stay at home mom's and many can't. Actually during the 60's many women questioned their identities and blamed their education for giving them delusions of using their education later in life. And as we see today many people are educated for a different experience than the one they will actually be living. As for ADHD it most certainly exists but is caught up in the confusion of our factory like education and the experience of being a distracted average child. I believe ADHD is both a cause and symptom of behavior, but not always both. Take your eyes for example. You get your eyes tested at a young age because your having trouble seeing clearly, so you get prescription lenses. You now wear these lenses for the rest of your life and often have to upgrade to a stronger prescription. And no one asks why. No one asks why are you like this, how did it happen. Or if they do they say your genetically predisposed to it. Yes and no. You can be genetically predisposed to be more likely to develop many types of conditions, but it depends on the right or wrong conditions being met. Becoming near sighted or far sighted for instance is determined on three factors. Your nutrition, your genetics and your life style. Actually some people have totally reversed their bad eye sight, by changing their diet and their habits. For instance a child who stays inside all day, watching TV and playing videogames for hours, refuses to eat his vegetables and who's parents or relatives have had glasses, may develope near sightedness. So in relation a child who has been mentally watching TV and playing videogames all day, not spending any time practicing how to use their creativity, exploring their real world, developing interests in things that are natural and not directly stimulating, interacting socially with others around them, making constant decisions, based on logic, real feelings, and experiences, and most importantly practicing natural real motivation skills, in combination with poor nutrition and specific genetics will very likely not develope mentally in the healthiest manner. And it doesn't just go for ADHD. This could be a cause for any mental disability or difficulty. In varying degrees of course. But it is believed that behavior (in any form) is partially learned and partially developed. And by developed I mean the way your brain developed. How your nutrition and your experience shaped the way your brain works. Going back to education you can see why this factory mind set can't work for everyone. As well as when you compair the standard disaplines of our modern education with the arts, you find contradiction. Most people don't understand the arts. Most people wonder how the arts became so chaotic to the point it doesn't make sense anymore. Truth is that area of education evolved, but only by those who pursue it, would understand. A big part of the confusion is this idea of perfection that envelopes the academic world. The A grade is the pinacle of that idea. Do perfectly in your education and you get an A. Well this doesn't really work in the art world. You still get graded when you do your work and do it well, but school is for practicing the academics. In art you study academics as well, like art history, art Theory, and your use of a medium like drawing or painting. What you don't get graded on is on the things that can't be measured, like your idea, your creativity, and the value of your work. Though in some cases your graded on how well you show a specific idea or use a specific skill. But when it comes right down to it, art isn't about any of this or it can be about all of it. It can be about how others value your work, it can be about how divergent your work seems to be, it can be about how well your work matches a subject, it can be about how well you use methods of design, it can be about what kind of thoughts or feeling it brings up in people, and it can be about how it compairs and is judged among a group of people who hold a specific adjenda or opinion in matters that are or are not artistic or intrinsic (AKA art competition or auction). So in a way it is chaotic to the point people can't make sense of it any more, but it is not inherently measurable and perfected. It is the product of ideas. And ideas are valued above all else. And yet in education art is set in a lower bar of importance in all its forms, and is confused with this idea of perfection and conformaty.
Interesting, I've been thinking about the same ideas for a while. While it is important to test knowledge to see how one is doing, I personally feel that in some shape or form, we misunderstand psychology of what a child truly is, and is not. I would think that for starters, tests should be replaced with end of year projects. At least in my opinion, projects allow kids to work together, discuss ideas constructively, resolve conflict in a constructive manner, be creative in their thinking, and also be able to take feedback from each other, and the teacher in a way that allows them to move forward in their thinking. Lastly, I also would think that it will teach them how to present their ideas in a coherent and logical manner. Taking calculable risks would be better encouraged.
Sir Ken Robinson, thank you for explaining to the world what so many "ADHD" people like myself have experienced growing up within the American public educational system. It was painful trying to 'fit' into a system that I suffocated in until I finally got into the visual arts. Case in point, if I had listened to this talk or just watched a 'talking head' give the talk, I would have fallen asleep (as I did with 99% of my college lectures at UC Berkeley...). But because of the unusual way your talk in such a visual way, I was able to follow every word and thought like I was listening to music. Thank you so so much for putting so eloquently into words what I have always know in my heart to be true about education in the country....
I remember watching this in a lecture during my 1st year of Uni...and i was absolutely gobsmacked. One of the few times at Uni where a lecture left me genuinely speechless but in a good way. This is still relevant and needs addressing imo
Another interpretation of the divergent thinking test is that children learn to dismiss useless ideas or unrealistic interpretations. Imagine asking a colleague for a paperclip and receiving a picture of a paperclip drawn on a piece of paper. Divergent thinking? Yes. Useful? No. For almost everyone - this is a useful skill to learn.
His definition of creativity was: “being able to form original ideas that have value". I certainly agree that not every idea is helpful, but the willingness to follow up possible betterment options in engineering is definitely important. For example the first designs for hydrogens cars from BMW that spent a whole lot of energy keeping the liquid hydrogen cold enough, approx. -192° C so that it didn't evaporate and the models now that let the hydrogen remain a gas, but are so well sealed that it makes the whole concept more feasible. Another crude example might be Thomas Edison who tried to make his concept of a light bulb, that burnt out slower than a candle, work for many years before succeeding. He tried something like 500 times, exhausting all nooks and crannies of his imagination to create and design a model that was better than just using a candle. Compared to the light bulbs we have today, his versions were incredibly primitive, but compared to all known human history at the time, he at the cutting of technological development. His willingness to imagine what is not yet there as well as his willingness to be wrong and try again and again paid off. It is like game of luck, that isn't rigged against you but just really difficult to win, and the most frustrating thing is that there is no perfect answer. iPhones are necessarily better than Samsung Galaxy phones... They are just different.
I really like the point where schools teach students to work independently whereas when it's time for them to enter the work force, the paradigm changes and now they have to cooperate and collaborate in the most part.The grouping strategies in classes would work perfect in this aspect so that work place is not much of a challenge for them. There is some really well informed and powerful knowledge in this video!
I'm freshman under 'Seoul Women's University' in South Korea, and our English class (proposed for upgrading listening&speaking ability.... kind of obligation of our school for freshmen) ranged over this video. Students learned about Education more elaborately.... and it made girls to think about fundamental function of education. Almost none hesitated to participate and express opinion. I also saw Korean TV show few days ago.... it was a debate of two author based on a book written by Sir Ken Robinson.. it's really surprising nothing seems changed in education field, although World is changing drastically day by day.... maybe it's not only limited situation to Korea. how can we change paradigms and make come true our town, city, nation, word better for students to learn what they need and want? it is obvious adults need to search some better way...
I agree with the whole video. And the MAIN problem I see with education today is that we are not letting students know all the possibilities that the world has so they can take on their career. The incentives are not being met and they are not giving students a reason of why to study other than "you want to be successful in life. You don't want to end up in a fast food place for the rest of your life." and eventually forcing them to graduate without a clear vision of the future. They are teaching what to think, not how to think. They are not teaching critical thinking rather accepting everything as it is and keep going on. As if they were products to be sold and not human beings with potential. Most schools around the world are failing in education because they are not evolving in education and they keep teaching it the same way they did back in the 18th-19th century. Our whole world keeps changing, we keep evolving as a species and if we keep the same way of thinking and the same way of doing things, where do we go? And even more when we know that science and technology are here to help us and speed up our evolution. I was good in school and stuff. I enjoyed some classes, other not as much. But I always wanted to become a video game artist. Since I first started to play video games I knew they were my passion and it was something I wanted to do yes or yes. And guess what? That is what I became. I completely love my career and I'm in the struggle of finding a job in it (like many people are). It is a very competitive industry but not impossible! I believe students should be given more options and opportunities in careers that if done correctly, they can be very successful at. Instead, we limit themselves to take the same courses and expect them to know what they want to do with their lives when they graduate from high school. We need to keep evolving in every aspect. And the evolution of ideas is one of the many things we need to evolve. Otherwise, what is going to be of humanity in 100+ years?
I was diagnosed with inattentive ADHD in 2001, took meds for a few months but thought the diagnoses was bullshit, so I stopped taking meds and now 13 years later I realize it was one of the worst things I ever did. I'm back on medication and it helps me on so many levels. There is no correlation between creativity and adhd, people that are creative and have adhd actually benefit from psychotherapy and medication with an increase in their creative prodictivity. If you are sceptical about the disorder, you should watch Russell Barkley's lectures on adhd. They helped me a lot. Ignoring a disorder doesn't make it go away, but understanding it, gives you the ability to cope with it and rise to your true potential. So please don't make popular unscientific views like "videogames cause adhd" or "bad parenting" the basis of your judgement. Imagine for a moment that one of the most effective ways to treat diabetis is by giving the patient cocain, would you than say diabetis is made up to get people hooked up on C? If people really understood the devasting consequences of ADHD on a persons life, than their indifference would would be replaced with a deep sense of shame.
Absolutely fantastic. I say this as a creative person who delivers workshops in schools and as a mum of a boy with ADHD. Schools/Politicians take note - Sir Ken Robinson must be listened to if we want our young people to achieve their potential.
I am an educator in an Asian school. Rote learning is all they do. Anything I do that gets the students out from their desks and / or can't be given an empirical test sees me called to the principal's office. If their not reciting, copying off the board or doing exercises from the text book the school doesn't consider it learning. Worse, the students believe that too.
And then we get the stereotype Asians are very successful. Maybe rote learning and Repeating Exercizes isn't Always so bad if they're deemed the genius race of the world. Key word: Always.
Amazing video. I really agree with Ken Robinson. It reminds me when I was young and I dropeed out my studies. In those times, many teachers thought that the best students were who got the best results in tests. Currently I am working as a teacher in Primary School. In my opinion, every student has his talent, and results in tests won't ever be able to show how much inteligent is a student.
Education should be prioritizing personal growth and developing individual interests and skills instead of trying to drag them trough the same curriculum. Focusing how they truly can be themselves (by reintegrating abstract thinking), improve (or master) their interests/personal gift and how they can share this with the world (contribution). Now that sounds pretty great to me.
I find it very funny how society expects humans to become different things yet they are all being taught the exact same things with the exact same curriculums. It’s the most controversial thing ever, nothing but a joke.
Briljant filmpje, hij haalt veel belangrijke punten aan waar we fout zitten in het onderwijs. Zoals bijvoorbeeld het feit dat we kinderen met ADHD meteen een label opplakken en ze gaan drogeren om hun kalm te houden. We zouden deze kinderen hun creativiteit en uitbundigheid juist moeten stimuleren en aanmoedigen zodat ze hun persoonlijkheid optimaal kunnen ontwikkelen. Een ideaal systeem zou een school zijn waarin kinderen naargelang hun ontwikkelingsniveau worden opgevoed. Want wat Ken Robinson ook aanhaalt is dat we kinderen klasseren naargelang hun leeftijd. Maar het gebeurt inderdaad vaker dat mensen met dezelfde leeftijd op een totaal verschillend niveau zitten, sommigen ontwikkelen zich sneller dan anderen.Het is een wel kort maar zeer bondig filmpje.
+88Sofft Yes! You can buy it direct from the animators here www.wearecognitive.com/shop/sir-ken-robinson-changing-education-paradigms-limited-edition-giclee-print
To say education needs to change to broaden those it truly supports is an inspiring thing to discuss and think about. To mock the idea that some people living with ADHD as part of their lives need to take medication is arrogant and quite insulting.
Loved it. The problem is...our entire society is basically based around that factory line model...and it's shifted to even more levels of granularity. Before it was Go to College > Job > American Dream. Now it's Do Community Service that you don't really care about > Hopefully get into your choice school > Go to college > Do interships (often unpaid) in your chosen industry > Get job > Switch job 12 times because...reasons > American Dream (sorta). Kinda crappy if you ask me.
It's a bit more simple. For an example, if you want to become a game creator do this Follow your dream > Don't go to debt hell > Learn to program from internet > Gradually get better making more complex games as time goes on > When good enough, upload your games on Steam or GOG or your own website > The Western Dream. Notice no mention of school at all? School isn't there to teach you. It's there to make you conform to society and become a brainwashed slave to the government.
AlbertHamik I know those shitty games... I watch Nerd³'s Hell series. He doesn't waste any time before slamming those shitty games to a special place in hell.
I completely agree with the video. I myself was a 'victim' of this mindset, 35 years ago. Luckily for me, the school that I'm associated with is recognizing the need to change the mindset of its stake-holders. It was an eye-opener for sure, and a learning experience that i'm going to use to change the way I evaluate my students. Thank you.
6:15 absolutely true for most US middle and high schools. For some reason, once children hit 11 or somewhere around that age, they're required to learn things in unpleasant, in-visceral, and un-aesthetically pleasing ways. It's like all of a sudden, the kids need to learn how to "man up." The sitting in a circle becomes sitting in grid system. It's ridiculous. For seven years, I was brought up to believe that that was all there is to life: study, labor around extracurricular activities and sports, watch TH-cam videos to escape stress, use Facebook to catch up with friends, sleep, and repeat...
Being in High School, I hate it when teachers tell me I must preform things the way they're expected because there's only ever 1 correct answer and never-ending questions... To me there's only question and that's how you're going to live life, to that there's multiple answers.
There are some skills which can only be performed correctly or incorrectly. Arithmetic is a perfect example. There *is* only one correct answer, unless you're dealing with quadratics in which case there might be as many as two and both are simulltaneously correct. Now, of course, there are people out there, somehow or other, who get by with no arithmetic in their lives. I pity them, since at least basic Algebra should be a skill every person should have, and understand, because it's incredibly useful in a great many ways to your day-to-day life.
KhakiCube in life there's almost always multiple answers to a question or problem so why are we being taught that there's only one way for everything if that's not how life works?
One of the absolute WORST things to happen to public education is standardized testing. It assumes that children will improve their abilities after having taken a worthless test. It also assumes that teacher, the lazy bums, will work harder if their students fail the tests. Tests make money for testing companies and high tech companies. They measure the economic and educational level of parents. It is demoralizing and teachers, under 'normal conditions' have had to 'teach to the test'. Standardized testing was not even put together by education specialists...the teachers. It is past time to get rid of these worthless tests. LET TEACHERS TEACH!!
Any rational human being would see that there is a lot of useful information coming from sir Ken Robinson in regards to changing the current education paradigm. I hated high school. I feel like one point he nails right on the button is the fact that people of the arts are shoved out of the way, put down, neglected. I believe in the near perfect educational system every student would prosper and grow without needing any special treatment, shortcuts, or sacrifices in educational integrity. If I can see that, and so many other people can see that, then the million dollar question is why isn't anything being done to change the current paradigm? When you see how many students drop out of school, dont graduate, dont go and further their education then that alone is a very clear and vivid indication that something is wrong and needs to be fixed. The problem needs to be analyzed, and when those issues come to the surface there needs to be objective reasoning behind the solution. No agenda behind the solutions. Something has to change. In the most literal sense of the statement. Whether we like it or not, whether we chose so or not, something will change. This is not sustainable in the long run.
Come on maaaaaaaan. High school was fun, Junior high was even better!! Nothing like being beaten for thinking / looking "different" all while being told "We celebrate diversity". This coming from the "adults" in such schools. The vast majority of "teachers" are just drones, there to put in 15-20 years so they can have that pension and tell themselves they're better than everyone else because they sold Conformity to kids for 20 years....
Thank you for this for years I've felt like the bottom of the heap becouse of being labeled as dyslexic. It's made my life very hard socially and in work. My mind feels like it works faster that I can communicate the thought causing what i say to be disjointed and what I wright to be illegible. I never improved my hand righting because it was so bad and been told that dyslexia was the reason gave me an excuse for not trying. I know there is a purpose for me and after watching this i'm willing to look for it.
And what makes that doubly sad is that we have had strategies in NLP to teach children with dyslexia to read and thrive for many years and it is still not taught in teacher training establishments....
I have shared this video about a dozen times and no one comments or likes it...I don't understand why we don't do anything about it...ken really makes sense...
Because most people aren't in a position to influence education policy, and those who are probably don't take the time to scroll through Facebook posts.
Simply the whole structure of creativity in education needs restructuring in a new way. We all learn differently , visually, hearing things, physically working with there hands, our minds are wired differently , beautiful this videos presentation is a wake-up call.
"Promoting education is an effort that is close to my heart. Illiteracy contributes to poverty; encouraging children to pick up a book is fundamental." - Sasha Grey
THIS VIDEO MEANS SO MUCH TO ME BUT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO REJECT THE IDEAS. I have tried discussing this idea with people and have been either told they don't want to hear my opinion or that things can't change. How do I make others comfortable with these ideas? Or, how do I get others to understand we can't truly measure intelligence and categorize people into "academic" and "non-academic" groups?
Honestly..... I feel you, I feel like I've spent my whole life trying to explain this to people but they either don't care or think it's not worth discussing because they can't do anything it, to change to them its just ''it is what it is''. I wasted some of the most important years of my life in this mess but one day I just gave up trying to make people see my point & moved on. But this video just brought back so many memories of my struggles, I'm still struggling but I feel like I don't need anyone's understanding. I'm so tempted to send this video to all my friends & family but I just don't care anymore..... :(
Faiqa Qaisar SEND THE VIDEO, social change doesn't happen by holding in your ideas. Now go use some Booker T. Washington pride and stand for what you think is right :)
I did :) but I think you eventually find the right people in life, people you don't have to explain yourself self to because even if they don't understand they respect you anyway
Faiqa Qaisar that's slightly true, but you just gotta think that arguing honestly does get you somewhere if people are open to losing and wanting to gain some more knowledge then they previously had. of course there a lot of arguments that can get nowhere, but there also arguments that can get nowhere but that people can think about and reminisce on which can lead to a changed opinion. or you could simply change someone's opinion with the right facts.
While many things he says are true, he didn't understand adhd even in the slightest. This especially obvious at 6:15. I have adhd. I can't enjoy art (neither passive or active) without my medication because my thoughts are stampeding ALL. THE. TIME. But with my medication the stampede stops and I finally am able to even recognize what's happening on stage in the theatre for example. The medication is not deadening me, it keeps me alive. He said it himself: He is not qualified to judge adhd, and he shouldn't.
I completely agree. This video is 12 years old and needs to have an update regarding ADHD. It's continuing to stigmatise people who take medication (like you and me). Don't we deserve the chance to have the opportunity to succeed without people judging us for being medicated?
I cant hear the last few seconds of the video... It goes mute after he says: The habitats that they occupy. Is that how it ends?? I love it!! It is Very true and explained in a super simple way... My sister and me, both artists and free thinkers, have just started home schooling our kids, after realizing in just a few weeks of kindergarden, that we didn't want that for our kids... We didn't want them to have to change who they are just to please the system... And now they are thriving in the homeschool environment and we get together with a huge homeschooling community here in South FL... We had no idea how many people take their kid's education into their own hands because they realize, like we did, that the system is flawed and outdated.
The school system indoctrinates our kids so im gonna home school my kids so i can control everything they learn and indoctrinate them myself. So silly... Just because you say youre a free thinker, doesnt make you one, especially if you need this dumb cartoon to help you think it through. That is assisted thinking. Kids need social environments with peers, kids need alternative views, kids need exposure.
I shared this video with my school districts super intendant. I'm looking forward to meeting with this super intendant about Sir Ken Robinson's ideas. Sir Ken Robinson is a great inspiration! Everyone keep on changing education for the better!
I actually watched the entire video, and agreed up until the end from my experiences of having worked at so many different IT companies. Two things in my unscientific observation is that some people can't SEE their thoughts. And it's not just IT, when Michael Jordan was asked how can he make all those shots from far away he said he simply sees the hoop as being 5ft wide in his mind; same with Einstein being seeing so far in advance (who was also an introvert explained at the bottom of this). MENTAL visualization IMHO is the differentiator for certain aspects of what many would call genius. Or being able to hold multiple thoughts at once. That's one of the biggest struggles when I work as a business consultant--having to explain the need to thing 10x steps ahead, and even after going those 10x steps, then looking for multiple solutions/answers to each 10x (it is the EXACT divergent thinking process he's talking about at 7:54). And that isn't something that can be trained or taught...it's really how you see the world; its why we have specialized roles as architects vs. developers, writers vs. editors, actors vs. directors, officers vs. enlisted, etc. I like the analogy in that some people can easily parallel park because they can keep a mental snapshot image of all four corners of the car in their head at one time, then synthesize them together to park...while others, even after years of driving, still can't parallel park. They may however, LEARN the steps and remember to constantly LOOK at all four corners of the car while parking, but that's not the same as being able to keep the mental image in your head. But no one likes to say this, because we all want to say we're "equal" for GLORFIED social positions. For example, in software development, many software developers can out code an architect in a heartbeat, BUT, because the architect is a higher level position everyone wants to have the architect role because they get paid more (but that again is because of supply and demand--fewer people think like big picture architects). So it isn't that one is better than the other to warrant a genius title, but there are usually fewer people that can think like arch than devs'. Then the last part is really skewed when he says (believes) we work better in groups. Hell no, I HATE working in groups. Specifically for the EXACT reason he's saying. IMHO, DIVERGENT THINKING when some people work in groups frequently, creativity gets shut down because not everyone in the group can think at the level ie divergent thinking, so in order to appease the group (go along to get along), the most creative people end up stifling their ideas because no one in the group can see that far ahead. And yes like he said, in schools...we are all thrown together to learn in groups verses fostering how we each learn differently, especially the autodidacts in a class. Its exactly why they use the term "being able to see around corners" to describe innovators --its about seeing things no one else can, YET. Also why I totally get Tesla said, "Be alone; that is the secret to invention; be alone, that is where ideas are born." And as an inventor with over 20 patents to my name--yet no formal degree-- I couldn't agree with that statement more. So the real question we should be asking is, how are we quantifying genius? Divergent Thinking vs MASTERY of a skill (unique gift)
A great introduction to this course and educational change in general. If the purpose of school is to develop productive citizens, it is imperative that we rethink and redesign what we do.
This video made me think about how education has evolved over the years, and how it should promote divergent and collaborated thinking. It made me critically think about how there is a need for change in the education system.
Exactly, "how do we educate children to take their place in the economies of the 21st century ... [despite not knowing] what the economy will look like by the end of next week." The problem is that the educational system is designed from the ground up based on a perceived need and perceived ideal--it is based on ideas of what it means to be of value to the world. Humankind is so full of potential, each individual could potentially be the one that brings about the necessary positive change. A system that supports static ideals supports static people, and thus static problems and solutions. Everything is always changing: we need an evolving education system to produce more ideal people that have more fully realized their own potential. I talk about this and other important things barring human progress. Check it out, I won't let you down. Philosophy is my passion. Good day to you all:)
I do not agree with his statements regarding ADHD for numerous reasons. It is my opinion that he has not experienced nor been diagnosed with ADHD and does not have an accurate depiction of medication or how an ADHD individual feels.
I now have a whole new appreciation for having learned history at school and having had some great teachers and lecturers once I got to University. With history, there's never only one true answer for every question you ask because everyone views the world differently, from culture to culture, religion to religion, even between generations, which is why history gets revised so much to answer the questions that each era asks. You're free to come up with any ideas of your own so long as you have the evidence to back it up.
Amazing! I am sure I am not the only one that see's that most of these never talk about the learner! We have separated education from the kids and their families, we talk as if there is a bubble around kids. We have to face that eduction is not "Cool" and it is not valued in this country so why would a kid care! Don't tell me science and History and music and Art and PE aren't fun, they are! Society just has no patience or value for education so parents don"t care (because they did not care as a child) politicians don't care (no money from education) and the kids (they are told daily how "UN Cool" school is) then schools fail and we blame them. Do you blame the farmer for the weather, the coach for the player society would never do that but we blame teachers for students! Don't students have a part in this? Some would say the largest but yet least addressed.
Students are too young to really know ANYTHING about this mess, much less enough to form a plan to play a part in fixing it, still less the skills to guarantee that said plan is actuated. The Accidental Curriculum is a powerful force few acknowledge, and the former of which is why I plan to get to work with that.
What does weather have to do with a farmer? Do you mean if the farmer doesn't produce? Coaches get fired when their players perform poorly. Ironically, you could argue that capitalism is the reason we have bad teachers. I'm sure there's lots of teachers that teach not because they are passionate about teaching, but because it's a better source of INCOME than working at McDonald's and they don't know what else to do with their degree that they wasted so much MONEY and time to get. It's a vicious circle. Music is fun if you are passionate about music, art is fun if you are passionate about art, history is fun if you are passionate about history, teachers are good teachers when they are passionate about the subject and passionate about teaching.
I remember watching this in high school english class to learn more about education paradigms video by Sir Ken Robinson. This was ten or eleven years ago for me to watched it now in 2021, this year! : ) Best animated educated video ever.
Wonderful, as he always was. I was very sad to hear of his death recently and even more sad that the students i see (I have lectured engineering in a top UK university for 21 years). Noone that has the power to change ever listened to him. The students coming into our university are less well prepared than ever for both university and a career. It is not just creativity, it is about an attitude to learn and understand, a fascination with how things work, a willingness to work and read, a CURIOSITY (missing more than any other quality these days). They mostly come in feeling entitled and expecting high grades and think that grades what education is about. They are essentially told that they are 'customer's' and so complain about anything that does not fit their own 'model' of their own abilities. When they do not receive the grades they 'are entitled to', they crumble and our mental wellbeing support services are overrun.
This is one of the very best talks I’ve ever seen. It’s the only one that everyone I’ve sent it to have said the same. Thank you sir Ken Robinson and the animation drawing ,which really adds to it. I’ll give you an example one day I was with my GP and we watched it together. I booked a double appointment
logicackle I don't know if you can read a joke can you? Look at his writing style, its an obvious jab at how equally terrible the United States education is. With its low wages for teachers, extremely low budgets, and for some schools the lack of an Arts program due to it being "too costly".
logicackle I don't know if you can read a joke can you? Look at his writing style, its an obvious jab at how equally terrible the United States education is. With its low wages for teachers, extremely low budgets, and for some schools the lack of an Arts program due to it being "too costly".
Yang Sin That's why I concluded it was a joke. However, spelling in YT is atrocious--e.g. the right to *bare* arms, and *tenants* of the faith--so he might not have been joking.
As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD when she was about 10, I 100% agree with you about the ADHD thing. I stopped taking my meds and visiting my therapist after maybe a year (at most) of being put on them and I can honestly tell you, I can focus but only when I want to. School’s boring, and I finish all my schoolwork early (if I can) just so I can draw or do something fun instead. If it’s boring, I might not even do that much in class, just the bare minimum so I can finish my hw and pass
Interesting... I never really thought about it this way. aesthetic adj. - Something that involves the senses anaesthetic adj. - Something that kills the senses
I want to point out that those who have ADHD or the "modern epidemic" as he refers it to, are completely valid and should not listen to a word this man says between 3:40 and 6:30. I am an artist with ADD and my medication DOES NOT inhibit my ability to experience aesthetics and create art. Heavily medicating children without hesitation and college students who don't have ADHD using Adderall to get ahead is a different story. I am not less aware and in this world with my medication than those who don't have to take it.
i believe the main idea he is pointing out is we have to drug our kids to put them through school well a lot of kids don't need those drugs to begin with
For the part that you explain "Why do school match students with their ages". I totally agree with you. I even like to have friends, and attend conferences, or training with elder, and younger people. When i do that, i learn more, and i feel happier! :D
The main take away is this: Every child can learn if facilities are available. Every child is knowledgeable and creative, the necessary thing is to give him time and means. Digital education is there to help learners learn new things and apply them in their daily life. It will make learning very enjoyable and fruitful.
I grew up with ADHD in school and it was hard for me to focus. They put me on pills that made me feel sad, tired and slow and alone; basically a zombie. My grades were in the toilet my mom had to come out to the school almost everyday. I had to go to smaller rooms with about 6-7 other kids and these were called "the slow classes" by other kids. It made me feel stupid and depressed. Then when I was taken off the meds I was able to focus better and I was taught better by teachers who understood me and as I rose in my grades my grades were getting better. By the time I got in high school in sophomore year I no longer needed to be taken out of classes and no longer needed special treatment. Also I noticed that my ADHD made me see the world differently. My ADHD made me think and create more creativity cuz ppl with ADHD tend to be more in their head thinking about the fun stuff rather than the boring stuff being said to them. My ADHD made me more artistic and such a great thinker and creator. My gpa was a 3.75 and they told me I was one out of a hand full of people who didn't let my ADHD bother me. And that made me feel so special. Now I am absolutely in love with my ADHD I see it more of a blessing than s curse and I thank god I never got the severe case of ADHD. My art teacher when I was in high school showed me this video and it made me understand that I'm not the only one who thinks the same way about today's educational system!
I'm very angry these days because I believe the schooling system has killed my naturally born critical thinking skills and creativity. Why did I waste so much bloody time in school? School was largely a waste of time and money for me. Fuck school. I'm learning from the Internet and actual intellectuals like Immortal Technique and George Carlin. You can learn virtually everything you need to know using the Internet and books on your own. What's the freaking point of attending university, and wasting tens of thousands of dollars on it?
To answer your question, MikuDeku90, Prestige. The internet is a lot newer than universities, so the internet lacks the prestige employers are looking for. [Edit: Which is to say, no sound reason at all...]
So we need a society full of cutting edge, groundbreaking Philosophers, finding new dimensions and new interpretations in everything, who look down upon the worker bees from Polytechnic and apprenticeship background.
(If the original comment had an elipse at the end): ...given that Automation has been getting nothing but stronger, and will put manual labor jobs to rest for good.
Gosh. I've just red an article about reform in Education and this name, Ken Robinson, rang a bell. I saw this animation some years ago and It made such an impact in my life. It made me want to become a teacher and I'm close to reach that goal, with energy and passion, just as this conference. Thank you very much for it. Greetings from Peru.
"Don't copy because that's cheating." The only reason teachers say this, is because we (teachers) WANT you to Learn the material... if you cheat, you don't learn. Come on man. Yes, outside it's called "collaboration," but that's because those people have already learned it or are creating a product. If you don't LEARN something CORRECTLY and you CHEAT, then you will be the person constructing a Bridge or Building that Falls Down when people are driving or standing on it. That's why you don't cheat or "collaborate" information that you don't know or understand yet. This video is all over the place and has (incorrect ideas) refutable.. misconceptions; The reason we place students by age group is due to their scientifically proven development stage and physical growth stages. We have standardized testing to measure a common level of education that the entire country needs to have to be competitive with other countries. If we don't set a standard, then we lose. Side note: We wouldn't want 18 year olds sitting with 16 year olds either for obvious reasons. Sure, it is harder to succeed now and school is boring, but unless we are offering solutions to the saturation... or are we going to stop needing engineers? Btw, who's going to solve the lack of resources and earth dying issue? I guess divergent thinking could come into play there, but in general there are some historically scientific reasons for the educational system. Phones in the classroom is not helping. Engagement can be created without turning the whole system upside down; What we could do, is add a ton of more life-skills classes, without getting rid of the core academics like math and technology. Don't let students use this as an excuse for students to say school is useless, because that's what they see from this video.
I wholeheartedly agree with what has been said. For too long we have stifled our children's imagination and failed to recognise how archaic our education system has begun. I was a teacher for 11 years and was forever being told I wasn't following the curriculum and yet was still able to impart the necessary knowledge onto my students. Nowadays I am out of the system but am still supporting students as a tutor.
I'm curious: Does anyone know whom the "Higher Board of Education" is accountable to? If I were a parent, paying higher and higher property taxes, and told every 18 months going backward and forward for the next 150,000,000 years (fake laugh) that the schools "Just" do not have enough money, and that if we "Just" raise property taxes a little more, than somehow, MAGICALLY, those kids wouldn't have to then get themselves in $50-$80,000 in debt because K-12 was so "worthwhile" to them??? Best part: I used to do student loan refinances - best part of my day (besides my morning coffee) was to get a W2 or paystub, then look a what they majored in. I think that every single college should print out, from the BLS (Labor Statistics) a report. "I hereby acknowledge that the major I've chosen on average results in $35k/year, and I fully understand this is a poor financial decision, but I want to conform to society and partake in excessive drinking while living on campus, and I won't cry to big daddy gov't asking for my student loans to be forgiven after I'm out of college for five years consequences due to my poor choices sink in."
6:34 This is to skip the so-called "Brief ADHD tangent" the teachers said you didnt need to listen to, though that part is a quarter of the entire video.
This video explains how I feel about this educational system. I feel like we are a product of some sort of assembly line. As if the government was making little dolls with the purpose of "creating" progress.
I work in IT in a VERY large school. I feel like ruining my career and forcing this onto every damned computer screen in the school. I could do it and nobody could stop me. The kids would see it, the teachers would see it, the over paid people on 6 figure sums would see it. It would get through to someone. And that would be worth it.
+Lucky Lee mate if you have nothing to lose you would be the admiration of many for doing so my good sir, however if you have a family or loved ones this could in turn hurt then i would not recommend it, though a noble thought nevertheless mate
As a high school student i agree with this. I'm an Ap student not because i'm any smarter then the average student but only because I actually try. The challenge in ap is what keeps me trying. But some kids are considered dumb in regular classes because they're failing when in reality a lot of those failing students are more then capable of passing but because they are learning boring stuff it doesn't appeal to them so they don't try. Teenagers hell kids in general we don't wanna die of boredom in school. We like being challenged we like things that makes us think. My english teacher showed me this & honestly watching it my class has never just shut up & watched & been entertained as much we were watching this video. it appeals to teens. Not everyone wants to grow up narrow minded like half of the people from the previous generation.
The "problem" is deeply political. We need to find a way to remove our dependency on the market and instead depend on our communities. The sad thing is that most of us accept this reality as all it will ever be, when there are much larger forces at play who are dictating the future of humanity and have patented nearly everything in its path. If you don't conform, you are essentially judged as being an outcast, but when you are an outcast, that is when you are truly free. Ask yourselves this question - do you really need all those things? Is that really what life is all about? Time to reevaluate what it means to be human, and providing enough social provisions for everyone to join the fruits of our society. As an outsider looking into America, you seem to have privatised every single public good there is, and with real incomes stagnating, I'm not sure how anyone can survive a meaningful life, unless you have connections. We need to put a price ceiling on some goods and services, and we need to ensure a distribution process that doesn't rely on globalisation. Every citizen in the world should be allocated a house, and all the necessities to live, and we should be incentivised by love for the job, not money. The chaocomplexity of it all is staggering.
I hate the current educational system. Students and parents only care about one thing now... and that's grades. It doesn't matter if a student truly studies and learns a topic, or if he/she crams an hour before an exam... the grade will be the same, only the student who crammed will forget everything and have learned nothing. This obviously does not promote higher learning...
Who's idea was it to put that annoying ass squeaky marker in the beginning of the video?
lmao
Got your attention, didn't it? QED.
That was the first thing that caught my attention. LMAO
It is so painful. Why not just really go for it with nails on the chalkboard??? I have yet to use a marker that can deliver that type of sonic pain. So British to open like that... lol
A strange reaction to this excellent video?!
Who else is watching this for school? 💀
@Teddy Oliver right i don't see the point of it lol
For a counseling class. Makes sense to me, but it also didn't introduce a lot that I wasn't already aware of. People learn differently. We're more inclined to challenge rules and think creatively as children. Methods and regulations meant to encourage students sometimes do more harm in the long run...
for anthro anyone?
@@connorballard6652 naa ms. Esau
@@connorballard6652 nah english lmao
I'm watching in 2020... 10 years later and I feel like theres still no change :/
The only thing that's changed is Sir Ken died 4 months ago. Sad to see him go
@@LesserKnownMedia ah really...damn that is a shame
I can confirm that.
I did not realize this video was from 2010. This comment blew my mind!
there is no change because this is the commonly held Idea
your comment us like saying we've not yet travelled to planet earth
we're already on earth
As a new teacher, this video really inspires me to make a difference in my own school. It won't be easy, definitely but the idea is there.
+Daisuke Sakurai がんばって！
+Daisuke Sakurai -I tried to teach differently, in a more creative, enlightened, interesting way, i got fired for not fitting into this 'excellent' system... :(
+Szilvia K Me too! The problem is the same around the world. I was in London, now in the middle east. It will change when we as a society change. Everything comes back to us individuals. Our schools are like that because of they're run by people who dont care, and they're in charge because they're told what to do by governments who dont care. Governments are like that because corrupt people get in power easily because most of us dont care to change ourselves and stand together to get better governments. Most of us live in fear doing jobs we hate. When we become more honest with ourselves, things will change. And they will change, the question is when.
True... and sad...many of us hoping, trying, and waiting for others to wake up and make some efforts too because without united, collective efforts, brave individuals trying to improve things, risk everything and are victimized, hindered, fired...
Don't bother you're to small to make a significant difference.
Over the past 4 years or so I have been thinking exactly this, I am 17 years old now. This has summed up all my thoughts perfectly. You have genuinely inspired me to redesign the education system. Watch out world - here I come. Thank you.
+Oscar Stubbs DO IT young man,....
+Oscar Stubbs - I suggest looking into the field of Community Psychology. It's all about how to create systems change and Education is a major area of focus: www.scra27.org/what-we-do/what-community-psychology/
You’re 24 now! Wow you’ve grown so much! I hope you’re enjoying life whether you decided to pursue education or not :)
8 years later... did you do it? Hope you've done something you're proud of :D
Wow! I have been saying this for so long, not as detailed as this gentleman but verbally. Proof is definitely there. I work in mindset mentoring for kids and have trying to get this into schools in Australia. Not every child is the same, none of us are and we all have a uniqueness within us, including in which the way we learn. This has opened my eyes even wider than before. My daughter is studying to be a teacher, I'll be showing her this as soon as she gets home. I am more determined and driven now to get my vision out there. So far I have contacted 55 schools with my mindset mentoring to teach kids how to make decisions, about money and life skills. We are just taught knowledge in school.
When I see a video over 2 min. long, I groan, roll my eyes, and keep scrolling. I played this video at the insistence of a peer and watched it all from start to finish, eyes glued to the screen, completely enraptured and understanding everything in full gravity as Sir Ken Robinson said it. That says quite a lot about this technique of teaching and engaging the audience, because when the end of the video came, I was surprised to find myself transported 11 minutes and 40 seconds into the future. Bravo.
Whilst I love this and have recommended it to many as it makes some really insightful observations on education, I do feel I must correct some assertions made on ADHD, especially since we're approaching Mental Health Awareness week here in the UK:
*1) ADHD is not a matter of debate*
Although whether or not the US in particular has a stringent enough diagnosis process is.
*2) Ritalin is an amphetamine stimulant, like speed, not a sedative (methylphenidate).*
If you have normal dopamine levels (i.e. you don't have ADHD or Parkinson’s) then it'll have the same effect as speed, cocaine, meths, etc (it's very dangerous to take unprescribed.) If you lack dopamine in your brain, methylphenidate in the right dosage and properly prescribed alleviates the stress caused by ADHD, so the patient is able to maintain normal executive function and lead a more typically productive life. It does not increase focus in non-ADHD brains. As an interesting presentation which makes my point, if sufferers of severe ADHD were to take speed it would calm them down (to a point), rather than speed them up.
*3) And probably MOST IMPORTANTLY: It's damaging to imply that ADHD might not be real or might be medical fashion*
Yes, it may be overdiagnosed in the US, but to say it’s fashion can cause real distress for sufferers. You wouldn't suggest that Dyslexia, Asperges, or Autism is medical fashion, because you already know that would be harmful. Feel free to challenge me on any of this if you disagree.
Thank you!!!
Awesome responce I totally agree. I loved most of the video except for the part about ADHD.
1.) So you're saying that: "ADHD is not a matter of debate" yet the speaker in the video is saying the opposite - he is not alone in this assertion by the way - surely this qualifies ADHD as a debatable subject matter? 2.) Yes, Ritalin is a stimulant, however the Methylphenidate Hydrochloride package leaflet literally lists "feeling unusually sleepy or drowsy" as a "common side effect". 3.) I feel it may be more damaging to imply that ADHD is absolutely a legitimate brain disorder without the requisite scientific data to back those claims. You mention "normal dopamine levels", I'd be interested to know what this actually means and how these levels are tested and asserted.
Thank you for this response. I hold Sir Robinson's views on education in high regard and I was dissappointed to hear such a simplistic take on ADHD, without the explanations you provided.
@@adammoore2380 twin studies prove it's genetic, brain scans prove it's real in the brain under functioning of prefrontal cortex and reward center of brain, lack of early intervention can lead to long term side effects. See Kazda 2021 analysis of over 300 studies. Can be over diagnosed in children and adolescents particularly young boys. Not girls, not POC, not low socioeconomic status ppl., not adults. Feel free to read the study I cited if you're curious to learn more.
I've been listening to this guy's speeches all day and it just resonates with me more than anything I have seen in a long time. I was misdiagnosed with adhd in elementary school (this wonderful psychologist actually told me in 5th grade that it was a misdiagnosis so I know). So I spent 5 years believing I had adhd when all I had was this thing called childhood. Eventually in 10th grade I switched to an alternative school and everything Robinson has said regarding alternative schools in his other speeches is spot on. I'm a senior at my alternative school, going to college next year and this school has had a profound impact on me. I'll spare the details, but I just want to confirm that alternative schools are very often the solution and right now what I'm most passionate about is making this education revolution happen and I will do everything in my power to achieve this. I wouldn't have this passion if it were not for my alternative school experience, which inspired learning instead of forcing conformity.
Much thanks to Ken Robinson for his words of wisdom and innspiration andsharing his vision with us.
What alternative school did you go to, and what did they do differently? Was it a charter school?
Speaking about divergent thinking, our schools were built based on the Prussian model in which education at the time was about making people disciplined for factory jobs. I think we need our kids to innovate more, and have more chunking of lessons and less standardization. Imagine how many innovations kids could make if they all worked on building hand mold replicators or self-replicating 3D printers...
400 yrs ...UK and Queen FAIL , crimes against humanities ... tyranny...
So, 8yrs on, how did you fare through the (conventional?) higher education/college system? (after identifying that an alternative grade school was a better fit for you rather than conventional grade school).
How was your life going after that comment?
12 years had passed and I still see no need for revisions. What a great talk and actually quite prophetic! RIP Sir Ken Robinson.
agreed .... also 400 yrs ...UK and Queen FAIL , crimes against humanities ... tyranny...
The adhd portion is severely outdated.
@@mandy347 Agreed and doesn't take different presentations in girls into account either, but to be fair the understanding then around ADHD was much less
I certainly remember being much better at being creative when I was younger, but now that I'm a freshman in High School, I've noticed that I'm much worse at the whole creativity thing. Now, the problem is, I'm being praised. Why? I am great at finding the one answer. I can take tests very well, but am typically not the best at projects. Math is my best subject, English is my worst, where you typically have to write creative essays. I want to be an engineer, so at my school, we have an elective called pre-engineering. It's one of the closest classes to an actual job that's available at my school. And I'm not the best at it. Sure I can do the math required, but coming up with ideas for better designs is hard. I feel that this shows that my education is doing the opposite of preparing me for the future. It's telling me that there's one answer, which is never the case in engineering. I hope that soon enough we can have an education overhaul, and realize that we need to change education.
Im the exact opposite im pretty good in English and History and I also draw alot but im terrible in Math and i dont like doing it very much. Ive tried and tried but i always end up doing poorly/barely average in Math. I wish it was the other way around though. Being good in math gets you much farther than being good in English and such. Or it seems that way anyway
Octodog, you and I are in the same boat. Good at math, writing is my worst subject, and having difficulties in engineering. I was creative at a young age as well, and now I struggle in my Engineering Fundamentals class in college.
Maybe ur bad at Creative essays because u dont see the purpose in it. But if u love Math and Engineering u should connect creative essay writing with these topics and ur probably going to be great at it. Write an essay regarding Math and topics u love. Also regarding creativity u have to have a purpose in order to start to be creative. Surround yourself with orange color it is a great creativity booster. Ive tried it myself. It works reaaally well. Also try some orange fruit scent candles or everything that stimulates 2nd chakra.
hows adult life so far
You guys did CREATIVE writing?!
I watched this for the first time as a college sophomore in 2008. I had undiagnosed ADHD and wondered why school was so hard for me. This video was the beginning of major life changes that led to dropping out of college and starting a successful business. It’s been nearly 20 years and I’m so glad that I carved out a life for myself instead of following the traditional life path.
Glad it worked out for you, but sad for all the others who saw this and quit and didn't have your success, when pursuing a diagnosis and getting life-changing medication could have made a huge difference. I too failed hard my sophomore year (2006) but was diagnosed and graduated with honors for Biochemistry and went on to grad school.
Got to love the USA's teaching system. We push for higher test scores, so we teach the test. The understanding on how the answer came about is over looked. Children of forced into remembering rather than understanding the process, all while our kids are pumped up on school lunches/snacks that most healthy adults would refuse to eat.
+Bestoftherest222 I agree. Missing the understanding becomes a huge problem later on as well
+Bestoftherest222 Same in the UK unfortunately. Many of the kids in the one I work in are rebelling and all they do is put them in "isolation" or send them away, for minor offences. 2 Kids were isolated for a day for making paper planes. Sad. "HILTS, escaping again are we? COOLER 8 WEEKS!"
+Bestoftherest222 - I take things with a grain of salt - especially when pushed by a group with a potential political/profit motive.
One thing that I agree with is that imagination/creativity is killed by the current education system - you create a system which forces kids to spit out answers but cannot come up with new revolutionary ideas. Then again perhaps that is what the companies and government want - mind numbed robots - which just follow orders.
If you ever want to see where USA could end up a decade from now, go teach English in Japan and see what over-educating kids can do to them.
Sudbury schools for my kids, if I ever get to have any...
I regret the years wasted at school. And I was an excellent student! Most of the information and skills that I acquired was by experiencing life on my own.
And I believe that in school they should teach about psychology (loving and accepting yourself, relationship with other people), communication, basic finance, applied physics and chemistry (how to understand ingredients labels on consumer products or how the electronic appliances in the house work), what to do in extreme situations, how to cope with stress, how to go through transitional periods of life and determine your interests and desires, how to take care of the body and mind, basic pharmacology, etc.
Pretty much all the topics that adults struggle with and approach to self-help books for guidance which doesn't really work.
I debunked the whole field of psychology in my ebook EXPOSING THE MONEY MACHINE. We need to stop believing everything we are taught, and yes, collaborate on thought as to what we can glean from facts, and develop theories on our own as to what is truth. The establishment teaches many lies that we accept as truth, because they have letters after their name (MD, PHD, MS, etc.) Researching and developing concepts of our own leads to awakening and truth.
Villanizing products of the system (MD, PHD, MS) isnt really the answer. Im not disagreeing with your general statement by any means, but lets not blame those of the system rather those for the system. Just my 2 cents.
I was not villainizing them, i was saying that they have bought into making money as being important, they have believed anything taught to them as being truth, not searching for such, but just in passing tests, and they author more nonsense for others to believe. People believe anything and obey any orders or teachings if you have authority of any kind, especially if you have letters after your name.
I have debunked psychology from the foundation in my books.
And how to cook and grow food! How to do first aid! How to build a house... A sustainable one. And make solar cells maybe. How to do electrics. How to express emotions and communicate better. Yes i agree the curriculum misses on so many vital things and teaches so many things that we all forget, or that is so biased and flawed (history) as to be indoctrination more than education...
I love this vid BUT we know a LOT more about ADHD now. I am 45, spent my life literally mentally wrecked, was mis-diagnosed with all sorts of mental illness, had four total mental breakdowns, nothing helped, for decades. Did all the therapies all the mindfullness, thought about adhd in the same way this Vid does. Was diagnosed Audhd (autistic and adhd) at 45, and put on the ADHD stuff. It worked. Almost instantly. I had spent my whole life fighting my own head to control my emotions and reactions and non stop obsessive thoughts that literally exhausted me. ADHD is very very very real and about a lot more than focus.
Thank you for this comment so much. I was watching this video for school and was disgusted by the stigmatization of ADHD throughout.
@@NatalieLenceI disagree that he is stigmatising ADHD. What he's saying is it is not the individual who is wrong, but the narrow and constraining system we try to fit them into that is wrong. That's actually a pretty core principle of the neurodivergency model.
@@emmalouise8977 Agreed. These days, the understanding is more about the divergent thinking Sir Robinson talks about shortly after talking about ADHD and facilitating for those with different learning needs are far more commonplace today. Whereas back when this talk was originally recorded and later animated as above; it was still the thing to do to give ritalin and adderall to children.
I think this touches more on the diagnosis, and continued problem as someone affected by it, of continuing to diagnose kids in their developmental years with serious problems and medicating them without really knowing what it will do, if it will help or if kids have these problems to begin with. The problem is school expects you to behave a certain way and if you’re not cut out for it you’re labeled as divergent. This can effect people later in life who struggled in their formative years and leads to issues like you face of not getting proper treatment because school is looking to see if you only fit in 1 certain way, and society doesn’t care to really help you check again later once you’re out.
It never gets old. I am uncertain if that is a testament to the message, or failure of society to grasp it.
Many years ago, this video was shown in a staff meeting. It was a catalyst in my awakening to the issues with the current education system. I refer to it often and it inspires me to keep pushing for change!
fully alive arts and aesthetic experience 5:53
deadening anaesthetic experience 6:13
wake up children 6:26
rotten education factory 6:48
rotten standardisation 7:30
divergent thinking leads to essential creativity 7:55
lots of possible answers 8:03
when are you at genius level for divergent thinking 9:13
genepool of rotten education stifles creativity 10:28
RIP Sir Ken. I used to use this when I first started teaching.
I'll use it again now. More important now than it was all these years ago.
Everybody needs to see this!
Education is one of the most important things we should care about...
SO MUCH TRUTH IN ONE VIDEO
My philosophy teacher, who is a very intelligent and beautiful woman, showed us this as part of the course, but afterwards she was really emotional because she didn't want to mark our creative essays anymore but she had to because of the system. She'd rather just read all we create and give comments and enjoy it, but the grading ruins it all.
Yeah, the education system needs to change grading, too.
And so much lies in the ADHD part.
RIP to this legendary genius. Thank you Ken for everything you taught us ❤️
I love this video. I've shown it to many people. To those debating whether or not this emphasizes common core, you're missing the point. The system in which common core must work is broken. Imagine a gaping wound. Common core is yet another attempt to put a bandaid on it. The problem is not CC. It's the educational machine. A new set of procedures doesn't make the machine work better when it's an antique and can't keep up with today's evolved situation. So, let's fix it. Great video.
What do you propose? If common core is not the answer, what is?
Heather Lake Let students work at there own pace in a room of "approximately" the same age. Grouping, regrouping, advancing, as the educator sees fit.
Heather Lake No, I think Common Core has its place right now. It's seeking to put a bandage on a gaping wound, however. It's the system that is sick, not the potential cures like Common Core.
Thank you, ma'am. Actually fixing it is the hard part. At least you know that's necessary.
RELATION EDUCATION FOR SCHOOLS
So basically I made this petition yesterday and today I decided to do some research to see if anyone else feels the same and I came across Ken Robinson! Such an intelligent man who knows what he's talking about. And reading some of the comments on here about joy being taken from education shows that this really is important and people need to notice it!
My aim for this petition is to launch the start of Relationship Education classes for young people. Where we can teach children the values of trust, respect, loyalty, communication, love, and integrity in the right way. Our kids deserve to grow up happy and I believe with the start of this classes we can ensure they learn the most valuable life skills that will help them throughout their entire life.
We have all made mistakes growing up but wouldn't it have been great if someone were there to guide us through and share with us their own experiences so we can be aware of how important the decisions we make now will effect us in the long run? Could this one class change many peoples lives for the better?
If you want to help me get these classes into our school then please please PLEASE sign this petition I will link below :)
Hopefully we can fix the educational system before it is too late.
you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/relationship-education-for-schools
Sir Ken not only has a strong grasp of our educational reality, but he successfully articulates the importance of my role as a Drama teacher in a way that I never could. Thank you Sir!
Please never ever take this video offline. Changing our education systems will take a lot of time. We need this video to put the message across. More and more children and young people lose touch with their core, their dreams, their passions and consequently slip into depression. So many adults never got the chance to excel in something, to contribute their talents to society because those talents got nipped in the bud at a very early stage in their lives.
Well said. I'm 17 now and though I should be 'grateful' for having an education, I can't say I am honestly. When I was a kid, I was innovative, loved to think, loved to explore different possibilities and correct me if I'm wrong but the education has such a... Rigid system that there's no room for one to be creative. Being creative is considered incorrect, as rubbish, because they simply don't comply with the standardized and accepted answers in the eyes of education. Educating creativity out of kids in a way causes [Or should I say, encourages] them to stop thinking, to just follow whatever that is given and not question. This is the case for me right now and I feel as lifeless as a corpse.
I don't mean to say ALL of us but mostly, we are forced to memorize perfect answers and copy and paste those onto our test papers. The education now aims for students to have perfect scores, to be successful in life in the sense that it helps the economy to prosper and whatnot but that isn't what education is really about, right? I seriously feel that the process of learning is lacking because so much focus is on the output instead.
I've been studying for less than 20 years and it already feels like eternity. One of my childhood aspirations was to be an artist but it didn't last long because I was educated out of the idea that 'I would not have a good future being an artist'. The only time I feel excited about learning as of now is when opportunities are presented in class where anyone can share their opinions on certain issues, their different perspectives. It isn't technically 'education' I guess in the eyes of the system but to me, I think it is and I love this kind of teaching. It's diversity that I appreciate, not routines to ensure that I emerge as a 'successful' individual in life.
and now you're 21. How is life going? :)
Hows life back then :)
depends on where a person lives and who they take the money from. If we reject the money to conform (federal and state funding) we are considered poor and uneducated, but oh how much richer we will be!
Your 24 now 😃
400 yrs ...UK and Queen FAIL , crimes against humanities ... tyranny...
This is his speech. RIP. He is for ever in my mind. He was a Professor at the University of Warwick and i tought going to vist Coventry in the next year. I have to thank him for his insperation and to encourage me to teach in my way (with success). He was a INFUENCER. I hope he is going to be in 10-20 years one of the educational classics. As montesouri for childeren and Carl Roger for therapist and coacher.
Always in my mind, you are always in my mind. mhmhmh
I watch this every now and then for inspiration. Love the kids and profession, if not necessarily the 'system'.
"If you judge a dog on its ability to climb a tree it will go through its whole life believing it is stupid."
That's not even the correct quote
a fish. I know dogs who can climb trees :)
@@dickurkel6910 I thought the whole point of this speech is that there are multiple answers rather than just one. Yes, the original quote is a fish but most dogs don't climb trees so it still works or you could say hippos giraffes or horses it really doesn't matter. There are millions of possibilities here, i.e. divergent thinking. Belittling or demeaning someone because they were unable to recall a quote 100% accurately but still convey its general meaning is like a teacher calling a child stupid or more suitable for "unskilled work" because they cannot recite Shakespeare by heart. In reality, all it does by replacing 'fish' with 'dog' in the quote is show understanding by contextualising it differently just as a the same child who cannot recite Shakespeare word-for-word but understands it could probably write a modern day parody of a Shakespeare play. It's just as easy to see the merit in other people's contributions as it is to point out others' mistakes and vilify them for it, it's just a matter of choice.
@@jtcityslicker True, to me the quote means more of "don't judge someone based on some arbitrary standards.", but both work well.
@@dickurkel6910 I agree, that's the same meaning I derive from the quote. It's the overall message in the speech in the video that I was previously referring to.
I found this very interesting, and as someone with ADHD-I, I had a lot of hyperfocused thoughts about it.
It brought up so many points of interest. With in each of these is the fact that education was built upon the industrial revolution, ADHD is considered an epidemic of our time, and our factory type of education destroys or ability for divergent thinking. From the start of the industrial revolution the idea became that people should work in factories and large businesses. As time went on this idea continued but in a different way. By the 1920's there was a drive towards raising the standards of living. People were encouraged overtime to get out of the cities where they worked, and live in the suburbs in a house, get married and join a standard stereotype where the women stayed home to raise to raise their children and the men went to work hopefully using the education they gained to obtain this idealistic life style.
But like he said in the talk, this type of trend doesn't work anymore. Styles of life are so divergent and it's obvious that not everyone can get a high paying job resulting from higher education and all women aren't going to be stay at home mom's and many can't. Actually during the 60's many women questioned their identities and blamed their education for giving them delusions of using their education later in life. And as we see today many people are educated for a different experience than the one they will actually be living.
As for ADHD it most certainly exists but is caught up in the confusion of our factory like education and the experience of being a distracted average child. I believe ADHD is both a cause and symptom of behavior, but not always both. Take your eyes for example. You get your eyes tested at a young age because your having trouble seeing clearly, so you get prescription lenses. You now wear these lenses for the rest of your life and often have to upgrade to a stronger prescription. And no one asks why.
No one asks why are you like this, how did it happen. Or if they do they say your genetically predisposed to it. Yes and no. You can be genetically predisposed to be more likely to develop many types of conditions, but it depends on the right or wrong conditions being met. Becoming near sighted or far sighted for instance is determined on three factors. Your nutrition, your genetics and your life style. Actually some people have totally reversed their bad eye sight, by changing their diet and their habits. For instance a child who stays inside all day, watching TV and playing videogames for hours, refuses to eat his vegetables and who's parents or relatives have had glasses, may develope near sightedness.
So in relation a child who has been mentally watching TV and playing videogames all day, not spending any time practicing how to use their creativity, exploring their real world, developing interests in things that are natural and not directly stimulating, interacting socially with others around them, making constant decisions, based on logic, real feelings, and experiences, and most importantly practicing natural real motivation skills, in combination with poor nutrition and specific genetics will very likely not develope mentally in the healthiest manner. And it doesn't just go for ADHD. This could be a cause for any mental disability or difficulty. In varying degrees of course. But it is believed that behavior (in any form) is partially learned and partially developed. And by developed I mean the way your brain developed. How your nutrition and your experience shaped the way your brain works.
Going back to education you can see why this factory mind set can't work for everyone. As well as when you compair the standard disaplines of our modern education with the arts, you find contradiction. Most people don't understand the arts. Most people wonder how the arts became so chaotic to the point it doesn't make sense anymore. Truth is that area of education evolved, but only by those who pursue it, would understand. A big part of the confusion is this idea of perfection that envelopes the academic world. The A grade is the pinacle of that idea. Do perfectly in your education and you get an A.
Well this doesn't really work in the art world. You still get graded when you do your work and do it well, but school is for practicing the academics. In art you study academics as well, like art history, art Theory, and your use of a medium like drawing or painting. What you don't get graded on is on the things that can't be measured, like your idea, your creativity, and the value of your work. Though in some cases your graded on how well you show a specific idea or use a specific skill. But when it comes right down to it, art isn't about any of this or it can be about all of it. It can be about how others value your work, it can be about how divergent your work seems to be, it can be about how well your work matches a subject, it can be about how well you use methods of design, it can be about what kind of thoughts or feeling it brings up in people, and it can be about how it compairs and is judged among a group of people who hold a specific adjenda or opinion in matters that are or are not artistic or intrinsic (AKA art competition or auction). So in a way it is chaotic to the point people can't make sense of it any more, but it is not inherently measurable and perfected.
It is the product of ideas. And ideas are valued above all else. And yet in education art is set in a lower bar of importance in all its forms, and is confused with this idea of perfection and conformaty.
Interesting, I've been thinking about the same ideas for a while. While it is important to test knowledge to see how one is doing, I personally feel that in some shape or form, we misunderstand psychology of what a child truly is, and is not. I would think that for starters, tests should be replaced with end of year projects. At least in my opinion, projects allow kids to work together, discuss ideas constructively, resolve conflict in a constructive manner, be creative in their thinking, and also be able to take feedback from each other, and the teacher in a way that allows them to move forward in their thinking. Lastly, I also would think that it will teach them how to present their ideas in a coherent and logical manner. Taking calculable risks would be better encouraged.
The ADHD part made me so mad
Sir Ken Robinson, thank you for explaining to the world what so many "ADHD" people like myself have experienced growing up within the American public educational system. It was painful trying to 'fit' into a system that I suffocated in until I finally got into the visual arts. Case in point, if I had listened to this talk or just watched a 'talking head' give the talk, I would have fallen asleep (as I did with 99% of my college lectures at UC Berkeley...). But because of the unusual way your talk in such a visual way, I was able to follow every word and thought like I was listening to music. Thank you so so much for putting so eloquently into words what I have always know in my heart to be true about education in the country....
I love the visuals in this - it helps people who are visual learners to grasp the ideas he spoke super easily!
I remember watching this in a lecture during my 1st year of Uni...and i was absolutely gobsmacked. One of the few times at Uni where a lecture left me genuinely speechless but in a good way. This is still relevant and needs addressing imo
Another interpretation of the divergent thinking test is that children learn to dismiss useless ideas or unrealistic interpretations. Imagine asking a colleague for a paperclip and receiving a picture of a paperclip drawn on a piece of paper.
Divergent thinking? Yes. Useful? No.
For almost everyone - this is a useful skill to learn.
>mfw reading this comment
Thank god for people like you
It is because you can think divergently that you make this comment
His definition of creativity was: “being able to form original ideas that have value". I certainly agree that not every idea is helpful, but the willingness to follow up possible betterment options in engineering is definitely important. For example the first designs for hydrogens cars from BMW that spent a whole lot of energy keeping the liquid hydrogen cold enough, approx. -192° C so that it didn't evaporate and the models now that let the hydrogen remain a gas, but are so well sealed that it makes the whole concept more feasible. Another crude example might be Thomas Edison who tried to make his concept of a light bulb, that burnt out slower than a candle, work for many years before succeeding. He tried something like 500 times, exhausting all nooks and crannies of his imagination to create and design a model that was better than just using a candle. Compared to the light bulbs we have today, his versions were incredibly primitive, but compared to all known human history at the time, he at the cutting of technological development. His willingness to imagine what is not yet there as well as his willingness to be wrong and try again and again paid off. It is like game of luck, that isn't rigged against you but just really difficult to win, and the most frustrating thing is that there is no perfect answer. iPhones are necessarily better than Samsung Galaxy phones... They are just different.
I really like the point where schools teach students to work independently whereas when it's time for them to enter the work force, the paradigm changes and now they have to cooperate and collaborate in the most part.The grouping strategies in classes would work perfect in this aspect so that work place is not much of a challenge for them.
There is some really well informed and powerful knowledge in this video!
I'm freshman under 'Seoul Women's University' in South Korea, and our English class (proposed for upgrading listening&speaking ability.... kind of obligation of our school for freshmen) ranged over this video. Students learned about Education more elaborately.... and it made girls to think about fundamental function of education. Almost none hesitated to participate and express opinion. I also saw Korean TV show few days ago.... it was a debate of two author based on a book written by Sir Ken Robinson.. it's really surprising nothing seems changed in education field, although World is changing drastically day by day.... maybe it's not only limited situation to Korea. how can we change paradigms and make come true our town, city, nation, word better for students to learn what they need and want? it is obvious adults need to search some better way...
I agree with the whole video. And the MAIN problem I see with education today is that we are not letting students know all the possibilities that the world has so they can take on their career.
The incentives are not being met and they are not giving students a reason of why to study other than "you want to be successful in life. You don't want to end up in a fast food place for the rest of your life." and eventually forcing them to graduate without a clear vision of the future. They are teaching what to think, not how to think. They are not teaching critical thinking rather accepting everything as it is and keep going on. As if they were products to be sold and not human beings with potential.
Most schools around the world are failing in education because they are not evolving in education and they keep teaching it the same way they did back in the 18th-19th century. Our whole world keeps changing, we keep evolving as a species and if we keep the same way of thinking and the same way of doing things, where do we go? And even more when we know that science and technology are here to help us and speed up our evolution.
I was good in school and stuff. I enjoyed some classes, other not as much. But I always wanted to become a video game artist. Since I first started to play video games I knew they were my passion and it was something I wanted to do yes or yes. And guess what? That is what I became. I completely love my career and I'm in the struggle of finding a job in it (like many people are). It is a very competitive industry but not impossible!
I believe students should be given more options and opportunities in careers that if done correctly, they can be very successful at. Instead, we limit themselves to take the same courses and expect them to know what they want to do with their lives when they graduate from high school.
We need to keep evolving in every aspect. And the evolution of ideas is one of the many things we need to evolve. Otherwise, what is going to be of humanity in 100+ years?
*Applaudes* Thank you, good sir... Thank you...
I was diagnosed with inattentive ADHD in 2001, took meds for a few months but thought the diagnoses was bullshit, so I stopped taking meds and now 13 years later I realize it was one of the worst things I ever did. I'm back on medication and it helps me on so many levels. There is no correlation between creativity and adhd, people that are creative and have adhd actually benefit from psychotherapy and medication with an increase in their creative prodictivity. If you are sceptical about the disorder, you should watch Russell Barkley's lectures on adhd. They helped me a lot. Ignoring a disorder doesn't make it go away, but understanding it, gives you the ability to cope with it and rise to your true potential. So please don't make popular unscientific views like "videogames cause adhd" or "bad parenting" the basis of your judgement. Imagine for a moment that one of the most effective ways to treat diabetis is by giving the patient cocain, would you than say diabetis is made up to get people hooked up on C? If people really understood the devasting consequences of ADHD on a persons life, than their indifference would would be replaced with a deep sense of shame.
Absolutely fantastic. I say this as a creative person who delivers workshops in schools and as a mum of a boy with ADHD. Schools/Politicians take note - Sir Ken Robinson must be listened to if we want our young people to achieve their potential.
I am an educator in an Asian school. Rote learning is all they do. Anything I do that gets the students out from their desks and / or can't be given an empirical test sees me called to the principal's office. If their not reciting, copying off the board or doing exercises from the text book the school doesn't consider it learning. Worse, the students believe that too.
scott casey Yep. 100 percent spot on.
May I ask what country ?
And then we get the stereotype Asians are very successful. Maybe rote learning and Repeating Exercizes isn't Always so bad if they're deemed the genius race of the world. Key word: Always.
That's stupid.
Amazing video. I really agree with Ken Robinson. It reminds me when I was young and I dropeed out my studies. In those times, many teachers thought that the best students were who got the best results in tests. Currently I am working as a teacher in Primary School. In my opinion, every student has his talent, and results in tests won't ever be able to show how much inteligent is a student.
Education should be prioritizing personal growth and developing individual interests and skills instead of trying to drag them trough the same curriculum. Focusing how they truly can be themselves (by reintegrating abstract thinking), improve (or master) their interests/personal gift and how they can share this with the world (contribution). Now that sounds pretty great to me.
I find it very funny how society expects humans to become different things yet they are all being taught the exact same things with the exact same curriculums. It’s the most controversial thing ever, nothing but a joke.
No one is treating us as different individuals but forcing us to be copy paste of others
Briljant filmpje, hij haalt veel belangrijke punten aan waar we fout zitten in het onderwijs. Zoals bijvoorbeeld het feit dat we kinderen met ADHD meteen een label opplakken en ze gaan drogeren om hun kalm te houden. We zouden deze kinderen hun creativiteit en uitbundigheid juist moeten stimuleren en aanmoedigen zodat ze hun persoonlijkheid optimaal kunnen ontwikkelen. Een ideaal systeem zou een school zijn waarin kinderen naargelang hun ontwikkelingsniveau worden opgevoed. Want wat Ken Robinson ook aanhaalt is dat we kinderen klasseren naargelang hun leeftijd. Maar het gebeurt inderdaad vaker dat mensen met dezelfde leeftijd op een totaal verschillend niveau zitten, sommigen ontwikkelen zich sneller dan anderen.Het is een wel kort maar zeer bondig filmpje.
Can we get this on a poster?
+88Sofft Yes! You can buy it direct from the animators here www.wearecognitive.com/shop/sir-ken-robinson-changing-education-paradigms-limited-edition-giclee-print
that's pretty expensive tho...
To say education needs to change to broaden those it truly supports is an inspiring thing to discuss and think about. To mock the idea that some people living with ADHD as part of their lives need to take medication is arrogant and quite insulting.
Loved it.
The problem is...our entire society is basically based around that factory line model...and it's shifted to even more levels of granularity.
Before it was Go to College > Job > American Dream.
Now it's Do Community Service that you don't really care about > Hopefully get into your choice school > Go to college > Do interships (often unpaid) in your chosen industry > Get job > Switch job 12 times because...reasons > American Dream (sorta).
Kinda crappy if you ask me.
phuturephunk Everyone should do community service, whether you like it or not. It's a benefit to your community.
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It's a bit more simple. For an example, if you want to become a game creator do this
Follow your dream > Don't go to debt hell > Learn to program from internet > Gradually get better making more complex games as time goes on > When good enough, upload your games on Steam or GOG or your own website > The Western Dream.
Notice no mention of school at all? School isn't there to teach you. It's there to make you conform to society and become a brainwashed slave to the government.
AlbertHamik I know those shitty games... I watch Nerd³'s Hell series. He doesn't waste any time before slamming those shitty games to a special place in hell.
+phuturephunk I think most of them skipped college and went into the military for the cold war... or am I wrong?
I completely agree with the video. I myself was a 'victim' of this mindset, 35 years ago. Luckily for me, the school that I'm associated with is recognizing the need to change the mindset of its stake-holders.
It was an eye-opener for sure, and a learning experience that i'm going to use to change the way I evaluate my students. Thank you.
6:15 absolutely true for most US middle and high schools. For some reason, once children hit 11 or somewhere around that age, they're required to learn things in unpleasant, in-visceral, and un-aesthetically pleasing ways. It's like all of a sudden, the kids need to learn how to "man up." The sitting in a circle becomes sitting in grid system. It's ridiculous. For seven years, I was brought up to believe that that was all there is to life: study, labor around extracurricular activities and sports, watch TH-cam videos to escape stress, use Facebook to catch up with friends, sleep, and repeat...
Being in High School, I hate it when teachers tell me I must preform things the way they're expected because there's only ever 1 correct answer and never-ending questions... To me there's only question and that's how you're going to live life, to that there's multiple answers.
There are some skills which can only be performed correctly or incorrectly. Arithmetic is a perfect example. There *is* only one correct answer, unless you're dealing with quadratics in which case there might be as many as two and both are simulltaneously correct.
Now, of course, there are people out there, somehow or other, who get by with no arithmetic in their lives. I pity them, since at least basic Algebra should be a skill every person should have, and understand, because it's incredibly useful in a great many ways to your day-to-day life.
Nathan Holden There may only be one correct answer, but there is no one correct way of getting that answer.
***** best answer
KhakiCube in life there's almost always multiple answers to a question or problem so why are we being taught that there's only one way for everything if that's not how life works?
I hear what you're saying and as a teacher, I've stopped talking that way.
One of the absolute WORST things to happen to public education is standardized testing. It assumes that children will improve their abilities after having taken a worthless test. It also assumes that teacher, the lazy bums, will work harder if their students fail the tests. Tests make money for testing companies and high tech companies. They measure the economic and educational level of parents. It is demoralizing and teachers, under 'normal conditions' have had to 'teach to the test'. Standardized testing was not even put together by education specialists...the teachers. It is past time to get rid of these worthless tests. LET TEACHERS TEACH!!
Watch this if you are a teacher, a parent, a person who attended or attends any kind of school. Yep ,everybody should watch!
Any rational human being would see that there is a lot of useful information coming from sir Ken Robinson in regards to changing the current education paradigm. I hated high school. I feel like one point he nails right on the button is the fact that people of the arts are shoved out of the way, put down, neglected. I believe in the near perfect educational system every student would prosper and grow without needing any special treatment, shortcuts, or sacrifices in educational integrity. If I can see that, and so many other people can see that, then the million dollar question is why isn't anything being done to change the current paradigm? When you see how many students drop out of school, dont graduate, dont go and further their education then that alone is a very clear and vivid indication that something is wrong and needs to be fixed. The problem needs to be analyzed, and when those issues come to the surface there needs to be objective reasoning behind the solution. No agenda behind the solutions. Something has to change. In the most literal sense of the statement. Whether we like it or not, whether we chose so or not, something will change. This is not sustainable in the long run.
Come on maaaaaaaan. High school was fun, Junior high was even better!! Nothing like being beaten for thinking / looking "different" all while being told "We celebrate diversity". This coming from the "adults" in such schools. The vast majority of "teachers" are just drones, there to put in 15-20 years so they can have that pension and tell themselves they're better than everyone else because they sold Conformity to kids for 20 years....
Thank you for this for years I've felt like the bottom of the heap becouse of being labeled as dyslexic. It's made my life very hard socially and in work. My mind feels like it works faster that I can communicate the thought causing what i say to be disjointed and what I wright to be illegible. I never improved my hand righting because it was so bad and been told that dyslexia was the reason gave me an excuse for not trying. I know there is a purpose for me and after watching this i'm willing to look for it.
And what makes that doubly sad is that we have had strategies in NLP to teach children with dyslexia to read and thrive for many years and it is still not taught in teacher training establishments....
RIP Sir Robinson, only just heard of your passing.
we must carry on in his stead!
OMG!!!! He died😫! Damn COVID had me distracted!!
I have shared this video about a dozen times and no one comments or likes it...I don't understand why we don't do anything about it...ken really makes sense...
Because most people aren't in a position to influence education policy, and those who are probably don't take the time to scroll through Facebook posts.
Simply the whole structure of creativity in education needs restructuring in a new way. We all learn differently , visually, hearing things, physically working with there hands, our minds are wired differently , beautiful this videos presentation is a wake-up call.
This man needs a noble prize.
yeah i think tis too:)
Convergent Reaction and answers/ it's better to focus on idea than analysing words
SK 👉🏾🤣
I think he deserves both, Nobel and NOBLE
Have you ever considered running for president of the United States?
RIP Sir Ken, you truly inspired me and will continue to do so throughout my teaching career
Does he have any books you could recommend please.
It's my first time to know about him.
"Promoting education is an effort that is close to my heart. Illiteracy contributes to poverty; encouraging children to pick up a book is fundamental."
- Sasha Grey
THIS VIDEO MEANS SO MUCH TO ME BUT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO REJECT THE IDEAS. I have tried discussing this idea with people and have been either told they don't want to hear my opinion or that things can't change. How do I make others comfortable with these ideas? Or, how do I get others to understand we can't truly measure intelligence and categorize people into "academic" and "non-academic" groups?
Honestly..... I feel you, I feel like I've spent my whole life trying to explain this to people but they either don't care or think it's not worth discussing because they can't do anything it, to change to them its just ''it is what it is''. I wasted some of the most important years of my life in this mess but one day I just gave up trying to make people see my point & moved on. But this video just brought back so many memories of my struggles, I'm still struggling but I feel like I don't need anyone's understanding. I'm so tempted to send this video to all my friends & family but I just don't care anymore..... :(
Faiqa Qaisar SEND THE VIDEO, social change doesn't happen by holding in your ideas. Now go use some Booker T. Washington pride and stand for what you think is right :)
Faiqa Qaisar *W.E.B Dubois rather
I did :) but I think you eventually find the right people in life, people you don't have to explain yourself self to because even if they don't understand they respect you anyway
Faiqa Qaisar that's slightly true, but you just gotta think that arguing honestly does get you somewhere if people are open to losing and wanting to gain some more knowledge then they previously had. of course there a lot of arguments that can get nowhere, but there also arguments that can get nowhere but that people can think about and reminisce on which can lead to a changed opinion. or you could simply change someone's opinion with the right facts.
While many things he says are true, he didn't understand adhd even in the slightest. This especially obvious at 6:15. I have adhd. I can't enjoy art (neither passive or active) without my medication because my thoughts are stampeding ALL. THE. TIME. But with my medication the stampede stops and I finally am able to even recognize what's happening on stage in the theatre for example. The medication is not deadening me, it keeps me alive. He said it himself: He is not qualified to judge adhd, and he shouldn't.
I completely agree. This video is 12 years old and needs to have an update regarding ADHD. It's continuing to stigmatise people who take medication (like you and me). Don't we deserve the chance to have the opportunity to succeed without people judging us for being medicated?
I cant hear the last few seconds of the video... It goes mute after he says: The habitats that they occupy. Is that how it ends?? I love it!! It is Very true and explained in a super simple way... My sister and me, both artists and free thinkers, have just started home schooling our kids, after realizing in just a few weeks of kindergarden, that we didn't want that for our kids... We didn't want them to have to change who they are just to please the system... And now they are thriving in the homeschool environment and we get together with a huge homeschooling community here in South FL... We had no idea how many people take their kid's education into their own hands because they realize, like we did, that the system is flawed and outdated.
The rest of the lecture is here: www.thersa.org/events/video/archive/sir-ken-robinson
Thank you Joanne Klug!! very much!
The school system indoctrinates our kids so im gonna home school my kids so i can control everything they learn and indoctrinate them myself. So silly... Just because you say youre a free thinker, doesnt make you one, especially if you need this dumb cartoon to help you think it through. That is assisted thinking. Kids need social environments with peers, kids need alternative views, kids need exposure.
L. Hubbard
It has been shown that kids who are homeschooled are better at socializing
I shared this video with my school districts super intendant. I'm looking forward to meeting with this super intendant about Sir Ken Robinson's ideas. Sir Ken Robinson is a great inspiration! Everyone keep on changing education for the better!
I actually watched the entire video, and agreed up until the end from my experiences of having worked at so many different IT companies. Two things in my unscientific observation is that some people can't SEE their thoughts. And it's not just IT, when Michael Jordan was asked how can he make all those shots from far away he said he simply sees the hoop as being 5ft wide in his mind; same with Einstein being seeing so far in advance (who was also an introvert explained at the bottom of this). MENTAL visualization IMHO is the differentiator for certain aspects of what many would call genius. Or being able to hold multiple thoughts at once.
That's one of the biggest struggles when I work as a business consultant--having to explain the need to thing 10x steps ahead, and even after going those 10x steps, then looking for multiple solutions/answers to each 10x (it is the EXACT divergent thinking process he's talking about at 7:54). And that isn't something that can be trained or taught...it's really how you see the world; its why we have specialized roles as architects vs. developers, writers vs. editors, actors vs. directors, officers vs. enlisted, etc. I like the analogy in that some people can easily parallel park because they can keep a mental snapshot image of all four corners of the car in their head at one time, then synthesize them together to park...while others, even after years of driving, still can't parallel park. They may however, LEARN the steps and remember to constantly LOOK at all four corners of the car while parking, but that's not the same as being able to keep the mental image in your head. But no one likes to say this, because we all want to say we're "equal" for GLORFIED social positions. For example, in software development, many software developers can out code an architect in a heartbeat, BUT, because the architect is a higher level position everyone wants to have the architect role because they get paid more (but that again is because of supply and demand--fewer people think like big picture architects). So it isn't that one is better than the other to warrant a genius title, but there are usually fewer people that can think like arch than devs'.
Then the last part is really skewed when he says (believes) we work better in groups. Hell no, I HATE working in groups. Specifically for the EXACT reason he's saying. IMHO, DIVERGENT THINKING when some people work in groups frequently, creativity gets shut down because not everyone in the group can think at the level ie divergent thinking, so in order to appease the group (go along to get along), the most creative people end up stifling their ideas because no one in the group can see that far ahead. And yes like he said, in schools...we are all thrown together to learn in groups verses fostering how we each learn differently, especially the autodidacts in a class. Its exactly why they use the term "being able to see around corners" to describe innovators --its about seeing things no one else can, YET. Also why I totally get Tesla said, "Be alone; that is the secret to invention; be alone, that is where ideas are born." And as an inventor with over 20 patents to my name--yet no formal degree-- I couldn't agree with that statement more.
So the real question we should be asking is, how are we quantifying genius? Divergent Thinking vs MASTERY of a skill (unique gift)
1000000% accurate... and really.... it's lonely being intelligent in developed nations...
A great introduction to this course and educational change in general. If the purpose of school is to develop productive citizens, it is imperative that we rethink and redesign what we do.
the ironic thing about this is that it's on my (conformity enforcing) school website
This video made me think about how education has
evolved over the years, and how it should promote divergent and collaborated thinking.
It made me critically think about how there is a need for change in the
education system.
Exactly, "how do we educate children to take their place in the economies of the 21st century ... [despite not knowing] what the economy will look like by the end of next week."
The problem is that the educational system is designed from the ground up based on a perceived need and perceived ideal--it is based on ideas of what it means to be of value to the world. Humankind is so full of potential, each individual could potentially be the one that brings about the necessary positive change. A system that supports static ideals supports static people, and thus static problems and solutions.
Everything is always changing: we need an evolving education system to produce more ideal people that have more fully realized their own potential. I talk about this and other important things barring human progress. Check it out, I won't let you down. Philosophy is my passion. Good day to you all:)
This need to go on the TV!
I do not agree with his statements regarding ADHD for numerous reasons. It is my opinion that he has not experienced nor been diagnosed with ADHD and does not have an accurate depiction of medication or how an ADHD individual feels.
We know much more about ADHD now than we did then. I didn’t like his approach to it either but we need to understand that this was made years ago.
I now have a whole new appreciation for having learned history at school and having had some great teachers and lecturers once I got to University. With history, there's never only one true answer for every question you ask because everyone views the world differently, from culture to culture, religion to religion, even between generations, which is why history gets revised so much to answer the questions that each era asks. You're free to come up with any ideas of your own so long as you have the evidence to back it up.
Amazing! I am sure I am not the only one that see's that most of these never talk about the learner! We have separated education from the kids and their families, we talk as if there is a bubble around kids. We have to face that eduction is not "Cool" and it is not valued in this country so why would a kid care! Don't tell me science and History and music and Art and PE aren't fun, they are! Society just has no patience or value for education so parents don"t care (because they did not care as a child) politicians don't care (no money from education) and the kids (they are told daily how "UN Cool" school is) then schools fail and we blame them. Do you blame the farmer for the weather, the coach for the player society would never do that but we blame teachers for students! Don't students have a part in this? Some would say the largest but yet least addressed.
Students are too young to really know ANYTHING about this mess, much less enough to form a plan to play a part in fixing it, still less the skills to guarantee that said plan is actuated. The Accidental Curriculum is a powerful force few acknowledge, and the former of which is why I plan to get to work with that.
What does weather have to do with a farmer? Do you mean if the farmer doesn't produce? Coaches get fired when their players perform poorly. Ironically, you could argue that capitalism is the reason we have bad teachers. I'm sure there's lots of teachers that teach not because they are passionate about teaching, but because it's a better source of INCOME than working at McDonald's and they don't know what else to do with their degree that they wasted so much MONEY and time to get. It's a vicious circle. Music is fun if you are passionate about music, art is fun if you are passionate about art, history is fun if you are passionate about history, teachers are good teachers when they are passionate about the subject and passionate about teaching.
I remember watching this in high school english class to learn more about education paradigms video by Sir Ken Robinson. This was ten or eleven years ago for me to watched it now in 2021, this year! : ) Best animated educated video ever.
Wonderful, as he always was. I was very sad to hear of his death recently and even more sad that the students i see (I have lectured engineering in a top UK university for 21 years). Noone that has the power to change ever listened to him. The students coming into our university are less well prepared than ever for both university and a career. It is not just creativity, it is about an attitude to learn and understand, a fascination with how things work, a willingness to work and read, a CURIOSITY (missing more than any other quality these days). They mostly come in feeling entitled and expecting high grades and think that grades what education is about. They are essentially told that they are 'customer's' and so complain about anything that does not fit their own 'model' of their own abilities. When they do not receive the grades they 'are entitled to', they crumble and our mental wellbeing support services are overrun.
This is one of the very best talks I’ve ever seen. It’s the only one that everyone I’ve sent it to have said the same. Thank you sir Ken Robinson and the animation drawing ,which really adds to it. I’ll give you an example one day I was with my GP and we watched it together. I booked a double appointment
i dont kno about u guys but i think america has the best education system in all of europe,ive been in it all my leif and am doin prutty good so far
You are joking, right? America isn't in Europe.
logicackle I don't know if you can read a joke can you? Look at his writing style, its an obvious jab at how equally terrible the United States education is. With its low wages for teachers, extremely low budgets, and for some schools the lack of an Arts program due to it being "too costly".
logicackle I don't know if you can read a joke can you? Look at his writing style, its an obvious jab at how equally terrible the United States education is. With its low wages for teachers, extremely low budgets, and for some schools the lack of an Arts program due to it being "too costly".
Yang Sin That's why I concluded it was a joke.
However, spelling in YT is atrocious--e.g. the right to *bare* arms, and *tenants* of the faith--so he might not have been joking.
please say that its a sarcasm
As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD when she was about 10, I 100% agree with you about the ADHD thing. I stopped taking my meds and visiting my therapist after maybe a year (at most) of being put on them and I can honestly tell you, I can focus but only when I want to. School’s boring, and I finish all my schoolwork early (if I can) just so I can draw or do something fun instead. If it’s boring, I might not even do that much in class, just the bare minimum so I can finish my hw and pass
Raconte pas ta vie
Interesting... I never really thought about it this way.
aesthetic adj. - Something that involves the senses
anaesthetic adj. - Something that kills the senses
I literally thought I was alone until my friend sent me this video. I feel enlightened and more motivated.
I want to point out that those who have ADHD or the "modern epidemic" as he refers it to, are completely valid and should not listen to a word this man says between 3:40 and 6:30. I am an artist with ADD and my medication DOES NOT inhibit my ability to experience aesthetics and create art. Heavily medicating children without hesitation and college students who don't have ADHD using Adderall to get ahead is a different story. I am not less aware and in this world with my medication than those who don't have to take it.
i believe the main idea he is pointing out is we have to drug our kids to put them through school well a lot of kids don't need those drugs to begin with
this is THE only educational video that i watched on will. super well made and thought out
For the part that you explain "Why do school match students with their ages". I totally agree with you. I even like to have friends, and attend conferences, or training with elder, and younger people. When i do that, i learn more, and i feel happier! :D
The main take away is this:
Every child can learn if facilities are available. Every child is knowledgeable and creative, the necessary thing is to give him time and means. Digital education is there to help learners learn new things and apply them in their daily life. It will make learning very enjoyable and fruitful.
I grew up with ADHD in school and it was hard for me to focus. They put me on pills that made me feel sad, tired and slow and alone; basically a zombie. My grades were in the toilet my mom had to come out to the school almost everyday. I had to go to smaller rooms with about 6-7 other kids and these were called "the slow classes" by other kids. It made me feel stupid and depressed. Then when I was taken off the meds I was able to focus better and I was taught better by teachers who understood me and as I rose in my grades my grades were getting better. By the time I got in high school in sophomore year I no longer needed to be taken out of classes and no longer needed special treatment. Also I noticed that my ADHD made me see the world differently. My ADHD made me think and create more creativity cuz ppl with ADHD tend to be more in their head thinking about the fun stuff rather than the boring stuff being said to them. My ADHD made me more artistic and such a great thinker and creator. My gpa was a 3.75 and they told me I was one out of a hand full of people who didn't let my ADHD bother me. And that made me feel so special. Now I am absolutely in love with my ADHD I see it more of a blessing than s curse and I thank god I never got the severe case of ADHD. My art teacher when I was in high school showed me this video and it made me understand that I'm not the only one who thinks the same way about today's educational system!
I'm very angry these days because I believe the schooling system has killed my naturally born critical thinking skills and creativity. Why did I waste so much bloody time in school? School was largely a waste of time and money for me. Fuck school. I'm learning from the Internet and actual intellectuals like Immortal Technique and George Carlin.
You can learn virtually everything you need to know using the Internet and books on your own. What's the freaking point of attending university, and wasting tens of thousands of dollars on it?
To answer your question, MikuDeku90, Prestige. The internet is a lot newer than universities, so the internet lacks the prestige employers are looking for. [Edit: Which is to say, no sound reason at all...]
So we need a society full of cutting edge, groundbreaking Philosophers, finding new dimensions and new interpretations in everything, who look down upon the worker bees from Polytechnic and apprenticeship background.
So it's better to drag everyone down to your level then? It's like that analogy with the crabs in the bucket.
Robots are slowly taking the place of manual labor, we need a world of innovators to propel us forward, and lead happier lives.
(If the original comment had an elipse at the end): ...given that Automation has been getting nothing but stronger, and will put manual labor jobs to rest for good.
Gosh. I've just red an article about reform in Education and this name, Ken Robinson, rang a bell. I saw this animation some years ago and It made such an impact in my life. It made me want to become a teacher and I'm close to reach that goal, with energy and passion, just as this conference. Thank you very much for it. Greetings from Peru.
One of my all time heroes. RIP Sir Ken ❤️
anyone out here having to watch this video for your school assignment? 🙂💀
Yep😂
"Don't copy because that's cheating." The only reason teachers say this, is because we (teachers) WANT you to Learn the material... if you cheat, you don't learn. Come on man. Yes, outside it's called "collaboration," but that's because those people have already learned it or are creating a product. If you don't LEARN something CORRECTLY and you CHEAT, then you will be the person constructing a Bridge or Building that Falls Down when people are driving or standing on it. That's why you don't cheat or "collaborate" information that you don't know or understand yet. This video is all over the place and has (incorrect ideas) refutable.. misconceptions; The reason we place students by age group is due to their scientifically proven development stage and physical growth stages. We have standardized testing to measure a common level of education that the entire country needs to have to be competitive with other countries. If we don't set a standard, then we lose. Side note: We wouldn't want 18 year olds sitting with 16 year olds either for obvious reasons. Sure, it is harder to succeed now and school is boring, but unless we are offering solutions to the saturation... or are we going to stop needing engineers? Btw, who's going to solve the lack of resources and earth dying issue? I guess divergent thinking could come into play there, but in general there are some historically scientific reasons for the educational system. Phones in the classroom is not helping. Engagement can be created without turning the whole system upside down; What we could do, is add a ton of more life-skills classes, without getting rid of the core academics like math and technology. Don't let students use this as an excuse for students to say school is useless, because that's what they see from this video.
I wholeheartedly agree with what has been said. For too long we have stifled our children's imagination and failed to recognise how archaic our education system has begun. I was a teacher for 11 years and was forever being told I wasn't following the curriculum and yet was still able to impart the necessary knowledge onto my students. Nowadays I am out of the system but am still supporting students as a tutor.
I'm curious: Does anyone know whom the "Higher Board of Education" is accountable to? If I were a parent, paying higher and higher property taxes, and told every 18 months going backward and forward for the next 150,000,000 years (fake laugh) that the schools "Just" do not have enough money, and that if we "Just" raise property taxes a little more, than somehow, MAGICALLY, those kids wouldn't have to then get themselves in $50-$80,000 in debt because K-12 was so "worthwhile" to them??? Best part: I used to do student loan refinances - best part of my day (besides my morning coffee) was to get a W2 or paystub, then look a what they majored in. I think that every single college should print out, from the BLS (Labor Statistics) a report. "I hereby acknowledge that the major I've chosen on average results in $35k/year, and I fully understand this is a poor financial decision, but I want to conform to society and partake in excessive drinking while living on campus, and I won't cry to big daddy gov't asking for my student loans to be forgiven after I'm out of college for five years consequences due to my poor choices sink in."
6:34 This is to skip the so-called "Brief ADHD tangent" the teachers said you didnt need to listen to, though that part is a quarter of the entire video.
This video explains how I feel about this educational system. I feel like we are a product of some sort of assembly line. As if the government was making little dolls with the purpose of "creating" progress.
I work in IT in a VERY large school. I feel like ruining my career and forcing this onto every damned computer screen in the school. I could do it and nobody could stop me. The kids would see it, the teachers would see it, the over paid people on 6 figure sums would see it. It would get through to someone. And that would be worth it.
+Lucky Lee mate if you have nothing to lose you would be the admiration of many for doing so my good sir, however if you have a family or loved ones this could in turn hurt then i would not recommend it, though a noble thought nevertheless mate
As a high school student i agree with this. I'm an Ap student not because i'm any smarter then the average student but only because I actually try. The challenge in ap is what keeps me trying. But some kids are considered dumb in regular classes because they're failing when in reality a lot of those failing students are more then capable of passing but because they are learning boring stuff it doesn't appeal to them so they don't try. Teenagers hell kids in general we don't wanna die of boredom in school. We like being challenged we like things that makes us think. My english teacher showed me this & honestly watching it my class has never just shut up & watched & been entertained as much we were watching this video. it appeals to teens. Not everyone wants to grow up narrow minded like half of the people from the previous generation.
The "problem" is deeply political. We need to find a way to remove our dependency on the market and instead depend on our communities. The sad thing is that most of us accept this reality as all it will ever be, when there are much larger forces at play who are dictating the future of humanity and have patented nearly everything in its path. If you don't conform, you are essentially judged as being an outcast, but when you are an outcast, that is when you are truly free. Ask yourselves this question - do you really need all those things? Is that really what life is all about? Time to reevaluate what it means to be human, and providing enough social provisions for everyone to join the fruits of our society. As an outsider looking into America, you seem to have privatised every single public good there is, and with real incomes stagnating, I'm not sure how anyone can survive a meaningful life, unless you have connections. We need to put a price ceiling on some goods and services, and we need to ensure a distribution process that doesn't rely on globalisation. Every citizen in the world should be allocated a house, and all the necessities to live, and we should be incentivised by love for the job, not money. The chaocomplexity of it all is staggering.
I hate the current educational system. Students and parents only care about one thing now... and that's grades. It doesn't matter if a student truly studies and learns a topic, or if he/she crams an hour before an exam... the grade will be the same, only the student who crammed will forget everything and have learned nothing. This obviously does not promote higher learning...
This is powerful.
Agreed. Powerful, uplifting and hopeful.
Watching it one feels and thinks out of the box. As a teacher, I have always valued the creativity of a student. This video has added reasons.