Good idea Glen, I have been guilty of cheating and welding jaws to reins as well! As you said if you wanted to forge weld the rivets are a great start to keep them together!
You got a like on this one before I fully watched the video just for trying this..... I like cheeky little birds like that .... The end result seems like a very nice set of tongs.
That really was the point, just to give this a try. May not be the best way but could work well for some. That bird is my real good buddy. I'm Stateside right now and miss the blacksmith bird. Thanks Talabavin
Nice work Glen. My grandfather showed me something similar when I was a kid. He always made his jaws and either welded on the reins or riveted them, mostly welded with an stick welder from the 40's. He was 2nd generation and I am 4th generation blacksmith. Keep up the great work! I always enjoy your videos.
Yeah, most old timers welded bits and reins - probably the most traditional way to make tongs. I just need to find ways around welding since I can't weld conveniently in my location. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Hi Glen, I like the design, it's different, makes people stop and take another look and ask questions.👀🤔 For a beginner, I think that is a good idea, if you mess up, you only lose a small piece of material. Or you have a short handled set of tongs.👍🔥⚒
Someone else said exactly the same - like the aesthetic. But riveting the joints is probably not most folks first choice. Anyway, something to try. Thanks.
@@gstongs I'm just curious Glen, could use bring the iron up to brazing temp and flow braze on the reins also? That would look really cool to add some gold style lines to the joints with the rivets.
Out of all the tongs I've seen om different channels, these would be the beginner's tongs I'd try first. 3 different stock sizes to work with and techniques to practice - and you can even cut off the rivets and change them later if they are complete crap on the first attempt.
I fail to see the logic in this design,just use longer stock...yet the creativity you bring to the forge is inspiring Glen.Enjoy your ability to think outside of the box.Love this channel. thankyou..
If you use longer flat stock, you're going to have to do a LOT of drawing on the reins. If you use longer round stock, you're not going to have enough material for the nibs. It's the same logic in forge welding reins, just a different approach.
Liking the look of the riveted parts together, looks pretty strong 💪 too, still can't get over your anvil(s) they are so nice and versatile! You need you a little stick welder, can get one those inverter kinds pretty cheap, or used to could, these days with wild price swings, just not sure 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I think the riveted joints would be stronger if done side to side and not top to bottom. I have access to good, small welders but am hesitant to weld in my location. Thanks for sure.
I'm surprised you decided to rivet from the top and bottom instead from the sides. I would think the joint would be stronger riveted from the sides, but I could be wrong. Nice looking tongs never the less!!
Yes, I originally wanted to rivet side to side but I was afraid I wouldn't have the clearance I needed to make the tongs open and close properly. The joints would be stronger that way. Thanks.
Neat idea Just curious, would the riveted joint be stronger in a sheer plane over a tensile plane? Which i doubt it would matter either way for a pair of tongs.
Yes, I think the joints would be stronger that way, with the rivets going to side to side. But I wasn't sure if I would have the clearance and so opted for this way. Thanks.
Nice idea, and it forces me to realize that I've been in production mode for so long I haven't tried any new ideas out lately. Now all I need are new ideas!
Hi Bryson, I know exactly what you mean. Tongs are the one thing that I seem to be able to come up with various iterations for and so that keeps ideas coming. When in production mode, things get monotonous quickly. Thanks.
I love the look of these Glen. The one thing that stands out for me though is the weak spot that you pointed out during the adjustment. For many years I’ve welded my handles on and what I do is, scarf both ends overlap and then weld rather than just a butt weld. It never fails. Perhaps try tapering both sides and rivet. It should give you considerably less compromise between handle and jaws. It actually feels a bit arrogant to offer advice to someone as talented as you. I do hope that it’s received in the spirit of friendship, and not of criticism. Cheers Dietmar
I think Phil meant changing tong bits before starting to work (to suit whatever you're doing). But yeah, changing during forging might be a hassle. Thanks.
Nothing wrong with those tongs..I was told by an experienced smith who had no time for nonsense and bulldust...it's not how pretty the tools are, it's what they're making that counts
Hi Damian, Yeah, at the end of the day, if tools work is most important. And for most, tongs are not an end product but something to help create other things. Thanks.
It feels like it would be better to rivet them after the forging was virtually complete to minimize stress on the completed rivets? I could very well be wrong, just an observation
I like switching it up, it broadens the spectrum of the craftsman...
I sometimes do things differently just for the sake of trying. And like you say, broaden the spectrum... Thanks John.
Good idea Glen, I have been guilty of cheating and welding jaws to reins as well! As you said if you wanted to forge weld the rivets are a great start to keep them together!
I suppose forge welding after riveting would be just adding extra work but it definitely would be easier to achieve that forge weld. Thanks Paul.
What a great way to try a new way of producing a pair of tongs, thinking outside the box.👍
It may not be the best way but it works and may facilitate the process for some. Thanks David.
Some great tongs Glen. These are very attractive looking and functional. Great tip to those who do not have the option of welding.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
You got a like on this one before I fully watched the video just for trying this..... I like cheeky little birds like that .... The end result seems like a very nice set of tongs.
That really was the point, just to give this a try. May not be the best way but could work well for some. That bird is my real good buddy. I'm Stateside right now and miss the blacksmith bird. Thanks Talabavin
Always a variety, always interesting. Good post Glen!
Hi robert, the one thing I always seem to find variations on is tongs. Some styles are not practical but never know unless you try. Thanks.
I think they look cool! Nicely done.
Thanks Rob
Nice work Glen. My grandfather showed me something similar when I was a kid. He always made his jaws and either welded on the reins or riveted them, mostly welded with an stick welder from the 40's. He was 2nd generation and I am 4th generation blacksmith. Keep up the great work! I always enjoy your videos.
Yeah, most old timers welded bits and reins - probably the most traditional way to make tongs. I just need to find ways around welding since I can't weld conveniently in my location. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Like new ideas like that. Keeps me thinking. Good job
Hi Ron, it also keeps me thinking and that's a good thing since my brain need the stimulation. Thanks.
You get to practice riveting a lot with these fine tongs. Good video as usual
Hi Tom, Riveted tongs (bits and reins) may not be the first or best choice, but it works. Thanks.
Maybe braze and riveting are a good thing?
Good to see you Glen. That's a good set of tongs, nothing wrong with them. 🤜🤛
Thanks Scott.
Hi Glen, I like the design, it's different, makes people stop and take another look and ask questions.👀🤔 For a beginner, I think that is a good idea, if you mess up, you only lose a small piece of material. Or you have a short handled set of tongs.👍🔥⚒
Hey Robert, I think breaking the parts down like this can really help beginners and it avoids forge welding which can be daunting. Thanks.
I really like the look of this tong! I'll probably do this since I'm messing with jaws and metal is at a premium for me right now.
Yeah, this could be a way to use smaller scraps for jaws and even rebar for handles. Thanks.
those are some chonky looking tongs! I like them! the rivets add a very awesome asthetic.
Someone else said exactly the same - like the aesthetic. But riveting the joints is probably not most folks first choice. Anyway, something to try. Thanks.
Awe man that's cool. Steampunk tongs. I'm digging those.
Someone else said exactly the same thing. Rivets lend the tong that look. Thanks.
@@gstongs I'm just curious Glen, could use bring the iron up to brazing temp and flow braze on the reins also? That would look really cool to add some gold style lines to the joints with the rivets.
Your skill set is amazing
Nice tongs. Thanks Glen.
Thanks for sure.
Out of all the tongs I've seen om different channels, these would be the beginner's tongs I'd try first.
3 different stock sizes to work with and techniques to practice - and you can even cut off the rivets and change them later if they are complete crap on the first attempt.
Hi Matthias, For sure this would be a good place for beginners to start. And for those who need a tong that is versatile. Thanks for watching.
I fail to see the logic in this design,just use longer stock...yet the creativity you bring to the forge is inspiring Glen.Enjoy your ability to think outside of the box.Love this channel. thankyou..
If you use longer flat stock, you're going to have to do a LOT of drawing on the reins. If you use longer round stock, you're not going to have enough material for the nibs. It's the same logic in forge welding reins, just a different approach.
Hi Rock, There are pluses and minuses to doing tongs this way or with longer stock. Glad you like the channel and thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi James, Very well said. Thanks.
Ive brazed on tong handles with good results. One small rivet to hold the jaw and reign together in the forge.
That's very interesting. And maybe something I could try. Thanks for sharing.
I very much like your un-caged pet. Right now I'm dealing with Hummingbirds. I like your tongs. Rivets give them an old-time look. Very nice.
What a great way for a beginner to make their first tongs or for that matter anyone regardless of experience
Hi Stephen, It's just something else to try. And I think breaking the tongs down this way and avoiding welding can certainly help beginners. Thanks.
Liking the look of the riveted parts together, looks pretty strong 💪 too, still can't get over your anvil(s) they are so nice and versatile! You need you a little stick welder, can get one those inverter kinds pretty cheap, or used to could, these days with wild price swings, just not sure 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I think the riveted joints would be stronger if done side to side and not top to bottom. I have access to good, small welders but am hesitant to weld in my location. Thanks for sure.
@@gstongs yeah residential place probably not a good idea 😕 did not think of that 🤔
I'm surprised you decided to rivet from the top and bottom instead from the sides. I would think the joint would be stronger riveted from the sides, but I could be wrong. Nice looking tongs never the less!!
Yes, I originally wanted to rivet side to side but I was afraid I wouldn't have the clearance I needed to make the tongs open and close properly. The joints would be stronger that way. Thanks.
Interesting something I would like to try
Hi Alan, Give it a go. And maybe try riveting side to side rather than top to bottom. Thanks.
Mark Aspery talks about a similar approach but using a forge welded scarf joint. Would be great to see your take on it
Hi Andrew, Yeah, fire welding bits and reins is the more traditional way. I just have a real tough time forge welding in my small gas forge. Thanks.
@@gstongs time to crank it in the charcoal 😁
Neat idea
Just curious, would the riveted joint be stronger in a sheer plane over a tensile plane? Which i doubt it would matter either way for a pair of tongs.
Yes, I think the joints would be stronger that way, with the rivets going to side to side. But I wasn't sure if I would have the clearance and so opted for this way. Thanks.
Nice idea, and it forces me to realize that I've been in production mode for so long I haven't tried any new ideas out lately. Now all I need are new ideas!
Hi Bryson, I know exactly what you mean. Tongs are the one thing that I seem to be able to come up with various iterations for and so that keeps ideas coming. When in production mode, things get monotonous quickly. Thanks.
I like the rivet look they look cool
Thanks, I appreciate you watching.
I love your channel. Thanks so much!!!
Hi Mike, I appreciate your support.
That makes a great looking pair of tongs
If not great, they're certainly different. Thanks James.
steampunk tongs ! you might've started something.....
Hi Greg, Yeah, they do have that look. Thanks.
Look good nothing wrong with those tongs.
Hi Randy, Yeah, they do work and at the end of the day, that's what is most important. Thanks.
Superbe travail Glen.
Thanks Adem.
Looks great!
Thanks.
I love the look of these Glen. The one thing that stands out for me though is the weak spot that you pointed out during the adjustment. For many years I’ve welded my handles on and what I do is, scarf both ends overlap and then weld rather than just a butt weld. It never fails. Perhaps try tapering both sides and rivet. It should give you considerably less compromise between handle and jaws. It actually feels a bit arrogant to offer advice to someone as talented as you. I do hope that it’s received in the spirit of friendship, and not of criticism. Cheers Dietmar
Would it change the strength, if you riveted the rains to the outside of the jaws instead of the inside?
I'm not exactly sure but that could be something to try. Thanks for watching.
I gotta disagree with you on this one… I think this set of tongs are very aesthetically made 😊 Nicely done mr Tongs
Hi Mark, I'm glad you disagree! Thanks.
You should make it where you change to different tong heads. Instead of rivets maybe bolts so you can change the head and have one set of handles.
Hm, that'd be pretty time consuming in the workflow I'd imagine - especially if the tongheads get warm during work.
Hi Phil, That actually crossed my mind. Maybe next time. Thanks.
I think Phil meant changing tong bits before starting to work (to suit whatever you're doing). But yeah, changing during forging might be a hassle. Thanks.
Nothing wrong with those tongs..I was told by an experienced smith who had no time for nonsense and bulldust...it's not how pretty the tools are, it's what they're making that counts
Hi Damian, Yeah, at the end of the day, if tools work is most important. And for most, tongs are not an end product but something to help create other things. Thanks.
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It feels like it would be better to rivet them after the forging was virtually complete to minimize stress on the completed rivets? I could very well be wrong, just an observation
Haw much thise tong
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